Can anyone think of a game that used two different engines, one for campaign and another for mp? Surely the use of two engines for a game is the sign of quality.
Justin Stoll+ Halo 2 Anniversary Single player and Multiplayer from the MCC use different two game engines, Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy also do, Doom 3 Vanilla PC Multiplayer, it's actually a common practice to use separate game engines, probably more efficient.
@@liberatorkramit Yes and no, many times with game companies, they make FPS games with separate game engines, I always assumed it was done to prevent bugs from carrying over SP and MP and vice versa, which is likely the case, but when Raven Software developed Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, they made 2 versions for SP and MP with similar but different modifications of the same game engine using Quake 3 Arena as a base, Doom 2016 is an example of two companies making SP and MP with ID Tech 6, similar but still different versions, none of this is new, Splash Damage(who helped port Halo MCC to PC) actually helped make the multiplayer portion for Doom 3 PC Vanilla way back in 2004, both are separate, what I noticed with the MP portion of Crossfire X is that it seems very, very rushed, where Remedy took the time to make a decent SP campaign, Smilegate's version of the MP just seems so rushed by comparison and it's sad, because usually the 2 separate versions for SP and MP idea in practice usually works really well, you can just see which company did better development wise than the other and sucks.
Hilarious to watch a gamer suffer through such utter garbage. This has to be at least top five worst games of 2022. After watching this, I couldn't find not even one redeemable part of this game. All of it is bad, whoever made this game, should not be making games.
this is a Chinese made game that's bigger then every other fps, since it's played in internet cafes. plus it's one of the most heavily monetized games around.
@@coryyoung7544 Smilegate really done F it up for original CF. Even stop supporting original on another region (my region Indonesia and publish by LYTO)
Many of the assets from the original Crossfire were ripped straight from Counter-Strike 1.6 (which did the same thing with the charging handle) and from fanmade skins on FPSbanana. This is probably the result.
@@Genome85 that would explain quite alot what we watched. i never could understand why devs who try to make 'tactical' games can't even be bothered to research basics
also that zombie mode is kinda weird even in the original, since there's this camping spot for the survivors. all the zombie have to do to win is drain their bullet which is not fun. it's not that didn't play test it. it's just bizzare design decisions even in the original.
The fun : If you get 1000 damage, then you get 1 Kill, at least it count kill rather than CSO Nexon Not fun : - Hero got advance gun, even dual handgun could kill mutant/zombie - If you became mutant and got head shot, you could revive on next round only
i played the original and the decision to NOT implement knockback and make it unlimited respawn when the guns are not up to the task is just baffling, they should have keep the knockback and you PERMANENTLY die until next round like the original and counter strike zombie mods keep in mind the beta was two years ago and the lost ark devs made this game
Dude, this fkng game is literally cod mobile but copy-pasted in to consoles(with some cs 1.6 mods inside) but worse. Damnit why people are still buying and playing asian/chinese rip offs games like candy, that's why the gaming industry is decaying. Not even that but the game is hyper aggressively monetized and literally you need to buy the campaign separate from the base game. And lastly the multiplayer only have 1 map from each mode LMAO. 😂
just so you know, this is an "upgrade" from the game Crossfire - same maps , just new graphics - the backpushing shots in that one mode are all part of the mode
Indeed I stopped playing them in my 20s also but I’ve never been a huge FPS gamer anyways they all seem shallow and the same exact thing 95% of the time
right?? has joe never played CS??? you buy your gear and the game is balanced off of this and has team dynamics to it where you need to save/spend when time is right to win the rounds you need etc...
This game has already been shutdown. But even if it hadn't, I imagine not many would still be playing it at this point. It was probably deserted in 6 months, given how many far better shooters are on the market.
For anyone not knowing, this is the "console" of the original f2p crossfire game. I remember grinding my ass off on the dated version back in junior high. also it was incredibly predatory since it's a f2p shooter like, there's a lootbox system called gacha balls where you can get guns permanently. the only fair game mode in this game is the fun ghost mode. god i love playing that mode
1:12:28 There was a Mode on Metal Gear Online called Cloak and Dagger and man they not only did it better but the tension it can bring is otherworldly👁👌🏼
Wasn’t that game in Early Access on Steam for a while? I feel like I saw it on there and wishlisted it cuz it looked cool but wanted to wait til it had received its official 1.0 release to buy it, lol.
Hey Joe, loved the Dying light 2 review. it was spot on! Edit: I'm watching this in my Xbox and UA-cam is fucking crazy with ads, in less than a half hr I've had just under 20, Jesus Christ. this is why we should all support AD block. back to my PC I go so I don't gotta deal with interruptions every 5 min.
Its bad on the switch too man, I like watching UA-cam on my TV but its gotten so terrible to the point where I can only stomach this website through either pc or UA-cam vanced anymore
I gave in a while ago and got Premium. Life is too short to waste on ads. Plus, the price is ok considering I don't subscribe to literally anything else, and UA-cam is my main entertainment platform besides my PC. Plus, if you're a premium subscriber, the UA-camrs you watch get more per view from you than from ads.
Im sure theres no doubt that the game has it's issues, but I feel like some of the game's mechanics are intentional considering its meant to imitate counter strike in a way. For example in CS your accuracy is meant to be hindered while you're moving around, it isn't trying to be call of duty. The idea is to stop/crouch and line up your crosshairs instead of wildly firing everywhere and running/jumping all over the place. You're meant to be more deliberate with your actions. It seems like classic is meant to be like a hard csgo mode
When is it going to STOP having to pay for everything in the game.Can't even start the game endless u buy something.Really! Just watch AJ loose his mind not a enough.Com'on even Mittens Slap that control out of his hand should say something.
Wow, this whole thing is a mess but that "Nano" infection mode, yikes. I've rarely seen a mode so fundamentally broken with bafflingly stupid design / balancing. The melee attacking infected are held back by awful platforming controls so they offset it by making them bullet sponges. The non-infected only have to be hit once to be infected plus they have a paltry amount of ammo. Either this was tested and they were too incompetent to see how broken it is, or they never tested it and shipped it anyway. I don't know what's worse.
Actually brought back my childhood when Joe plays the classic modes - used to play countless hours of CrossFire back then given I was living in Asia and craving for a free-to-play MMO shooter. Even with that I just hate the fact that they made this _completely_ Xbox exclusive. As someone who had been playing the game for years, I'd say this game was never meant to be played with a controller.
Start the game and it IMMEDIATELY throws the store at your face. They're not just saying "fuck subtlety," they want subtlety to be railed by the whole football team.
Definitely isn't the 1st time gamepass has done that. Certain games will have some problems for stuff like that. They usually get it fixed relatively quickly
how is it so difficult for americans to believe that china and india is more populated than the US and majority of both of them are poor as shit. so a free game like this make sense.
The use of cyborgs over zombies reminds me of a video I watched on Chinese cod. They used cyborgs too because apparently China is no fan of zombies so I guess them and Joe have something in common
That's where the movie Army of the Dead from Netflix got that idea of (At least that is what I think). There is a scene when a zombie is shot in the face and suddenly he has an machine like skeleton like the Terminator with blue eyes instead of red eyes.
Yea, it has something to do with some weird standards and practices law or rule or something over in China where reanimated corpses (whether zombie or hell, even just skeletons) cannot be shown in almost all forms of media (I dunno if it’s some kind of religious or social taboo or based on superstition or what).
For anyone out their crossfire was a really good game it put counter strike to shame even though it was a shameless ripoff. Crossfire x is just a petty cashgrab and you'd be better off trying crossfire west if you can get into a server. Edit: regarding the Spector mode Mission Against Terror (MAT) had it but you could use smoke, water balloons, spray paint, and paintball/goo guns to help you find the ghosts.
What I don't get about this game is why They decided to release it exclusively on console, like... WTF ??? They choose the worst platform for competitive shooters.
People in Asia spent trillions of dollars on this game @@. The zombie mode that AJ played suppose to a playground for paid users with their broken ass weapons
It always was, Forza had a free base game and paid dlc on release.However this game promised campaign on gamepass and then charged which is more like a misleading thing.
@@HarshNerf The devs didn't promised the campaign on Game Pass it said it won't be included in the fine print which Joe caught and pointed out in one of livestreams when he played the Grounded game that was removed from the reuploaded trailer on UA-cam but was in the Xbox july 2020 showcase stream, it's only when Microsoft started seeing the complaints from people about that at launch day they had the developers act like it was a unintentional error to the press to cover their bs and remove the paywall in the game pass service.
Can anyone think of a game that used two different engines, one for campaign and another for mp? Surely the use of two engines for a game is the sign of quality.
Medal of Honor 2010 did
The Medal of Honor game from 2010 had two separate engines I believe. DICE handled the multiplayer portion.
Justin Stoll+ Halo 2 Anniversary Single player and Multiplayer from the MCC use different two game engines, Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy also do, Doom 3 Vanilla PC Multiplayer, it's actually a common practice to use separate game engines, probably more efficient.
@@liberatorkramit Yes and no, many times with game companies, they make FPS games with separate game engines, I always assumed it was done to prevent bugs from carrying over SP and MP and vice versa, which is likely the case, but when Raven Software developed Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, they made 2 versions for SP and MP with similar but different modifications of the same game engine using Quake 3 Arena as a base, Doom 2016 is an example of two companies making SP and MP with ID Tech 6, similar but still different versions, none of this is new, Splash Damage(who helped port Halo MCC to PC) actually helped make the multiplayer portion for Doom 3 PC Vanilla way back in 2004, both are separate, what I noticed with the MP portion of Crossfire X is that it seems very, very rushed, where Remedy took the time to make a decent SP campaign, Smilegate's version of the MP just seems so rushed by comparison and it's sad, because usually the 2 separate versions for SP and MP idea in practice usually works really well, you can just see which company did better development wise than the other and sucks.
@@UltimateDominion yeah even cod used separate iw engine for single and multiplayer it's just for efficiency
The real game being played here is Joe's patience
Hilarious to watch a gamer suffer through such utter garbage. This has to be at least top five worst games of 2022. After watching this, I couldn't find not even one redeemable part of this game. All of it is bad, whoever made this game, should not be making games.
this is a Chinese made game that's bigger then every other fps, since it's played in internet cafes. plus it's one of the most heavily monetized games around.
@@sunny-sq6ci proof again the Chinese can only recreate tech and it be not as good lol
its initial content are pretty poor, just a low profile version of counter strike clone which matches the initial quality of bf2042
Joe: "Hey cat, play this shitty campaign for me, please!"
Cat: "Fuck you!" *Knocks the controls*
The most played videogame in the world...no wonder the industry thinks they can sell us anything.
Crossfire x isn't the most played crossfire was damn good back in the day and you could play it on pretty much any pc (very low reqs).
@@coryyoung7544 Smilegate really done F it up for original CF.
Even stop supporting original on another region (my region Indonesia and publish by LYTO)
Not even 10 mins in and im already dying of laughter LMAO Were they serious about this game? Get the fuck outta here😂
Some devs are desperate to get their game to be on Angryjoe's worst games of the year.
So much time, energy, and resources wasted on crap…
That nano game was like 45 minutes and it just hard crashed hahaha
the fact that the devs have you constantly pull on the charging handle on the m4 everytime you pull it out or reload is also a sign of laziness
Many of the assets from the original Crossfire were ripped straight from Counter-Strike 1.6 (which did the same thing with the charging handle) and from fanmade skins on FPSbanana. This is probably the result.
counter strike got away w it so why only this game
@@kuro9410_ilust because ppl love complain to anything and everything nowadays
Thats how it's meant to be, its trying be another Counter Strike sort of game
@@Genome85 that would explain quite alot what we watched. i never could understand why devs who try to make 'tactical' games can't even be bothered to research basics
also that zombie mode is kinda weird even in the original, since there's this camping spot for the survivors. all the zombie have to do to win is drain their bullet which is not fun. it's not that didn't play test it. it's just bizzare design decisions even in the original.
The fun :
If you get 1000 damage, then you get 1 Kill, at least it count kill rather than CSO Nexon
Not fun :
- Hero got advance gun, even dual handgun could kill mutant/zombie
- If you became mutant and got head shot, you could revive on next round only
i played the original and the decision to NOT implement knockback and make it unlimited respawn when the guns are not up to the task is just baffling, they should have keep the knockback and you PERMANENTLY die until next round like the original and counter strike zombie mods
keep in mind the beta was two years ago and the lost ark devs made this game
You are paying 10 dollars....and you don't even get blue
Anyone here remember Combat Arms. This gives me those same vibes.
This game was absolutely the worst, felt like I was playing a horrible game from 2004 😆 🤣
that battle pass literally looks like a poor man's version of Warzone's
Dude, this fkng game is literally cod mobile but copy-pasted in to consoles(with some cs 1.6 mods inside) but worse. Damnit why people are still buying and playing asian/chinese rip offs games like candy, that's why the gaming industry is decaying.
Not even that but the game is hyper aggressively monetized and literally you need to buy the campaign separate from the base game. And lastly the multiplayer only have 1 map from each mode LMAO. 😂
Why tf do devs do this shit and expect people to invest money in their atrocious game lol fucking lazy shite. This needs to stop.
Dude! Like soldier of fortune from that era!
just so you know, this is an "upgrade" from the game Crossfire - same maps , just new graphics - the backpushing shots in that one mode are all part of the mode
That invisible guys mode is such a rippe off from the hidden
Im kinda glad that I lost my interest in team shooters in my 20's. This genre has been going downhill fast.
Indeed I stopped playing them in my 20s also but I’ve never been a huge FPS gamer anyways they all seem shallow and the same exact thing 95% of the time
@@datiger39 The new doom games and the metro series have been awesome though
Interesting, that first map is a recreation of Dust from Counterstrike.
more like a reskin...not a lot of actual "creation" went into this game Im afraid
A lot of what Joe is mad about is how Counter Strike classic (which this is a hugely ripping off ) was.
right?? has joe never played CS??? you buy your gear and the game is balanced off of this and has team dynamics to it where you need to save/spend when time is right to win the rounds you need etc...
This game is still terrible.
@@xcreeseseater38 i think Joe was a console guy way back when so probably not familiar with CS
@@HarshNerf no he is definitely familiar with cs:go,he prob never noticed because he goes on to play new releases and doesn't stick to one game.
8:31 EXCUSE ME????? The game is taunting you for not wanting to spend money?
This game has already been shutdown. But even if it hadn't, I imagine not many would still be playing it at this point. It was probably deserted in 6 months, given how many far better shooters are on the market.
This feels like it's a game by committee.
Why would they make it so you can aim down sights in the campaign but not the multiplayer?
You can ads in multiplayer but if you choose the "modern" mode.
For anyone not knowing, this is the "console" of the original f2p crossfire game. I remember grinding my ass off on the dated version back in junior high. also it was incredibly predatory since it's a f2p shooter like, there's a lootbox system called gacha balls where you can get guns permanently. the only fair game mode in this game is the fun ghost mode. god i love playing that mode
But at least sometime you could get gatling gun for unlimited if you lucky
But on this time, IDK about Smilegate now
The ghost mode was sick. Crossfire is my childhood.
its such a counter strike ripp off, but much more heavily monetized and somehow worse gameplay.
It was the Asian version of Cs since steam wasn't available in China at the time iirc. So yea, it was definitely a rip off xD
1:12:28 There was a Mode on Metal Gear Online called Cloak and Dagger and man they not only did it better but the tension it can bring is otherworldly👁👌🏼
These map layouts are just higher rez CS GO maps.
2:09:40 no way he fucking answered lol
9:17 he sounds like a grunt😂
Enlisted is a super underated WW2 shooter.
Enlisted and hell let loose deserve way more love
Wasn’t that game in Early Access on Steam for a while?
I feel like I saw it on there and wishlisted it cuz it looked cool but wanted to wait til it had received its official 1.0 release to buy it, lol.
Hey Joe, loved the Dying light 2 review. it was spot on!
Edit: I'm watching this in my Xbox and UA-cam is fucking crazy with ads, in less than a half hr I've had just under 20, Jesus Christ. this is why we should all support AD block. back to my PC I go so I don't gotta deal with interruptions every 5 min.
Get a router level whitelist
Its bad on the switch too man, I like watching UA-cam on my TV but its gotten so terrible to the point where I can only stomach this website through either pc or UA-cam vanced anymore
I gave in a while ago and got Premium. Life is too short to waste on ads. Plus, the price is ok considering I don't subscribe to literally anything else, and UA-cam is my main entertainment platform besides my PC. Plus, if you're a premium subscriber, the UA-camrs you watch get more per view from you than from ads.
1:42:50 for the campaign
Im sure theres no doubt that the game has it's issues, but I feel like some of the game's mechanics are intentional considering its meant to imitate counter strike in a way. For example in CS your accuracy is meant to be hindered while you're moving around, it isn't trying to be call of duty. The idea is to stop/crouch and line up your crosshairs instead of wildly firing everywhere and running/jumping all over the place. You're meant to be more deliberate with your actions. It seems like classic is meant to be like a hard csgo mode
When is it going to STOP having to pay for everything in the game.Can't even start the game endless u buy something.Really! Just watch AJ loose his mind not a enough.Com'on even Mittens Slap that control out of his hand should say something.
I want second stream of this game
There's a part two where AJ and Alex finish off the campaign!
@@angryjoeshowlive more
The rag dolls are so intense lmfao I love it
Feels like the devs have never used controller before. It feels broke to move and aim
Wtf happen to this game ? This is not what they advertise in the Xbox July Showcase Event back in 2020
Ride 2 hell retribution 2022 😆
The mp audio sounds like those arcade games at your local theater/pizza place.
Starts the game
*Already a paywall*
*Game tells you to spend money on it*
This angry Review is gonna be tasty lol Gonna need to order a pizza for it
Wow, this whole thing is a mess but that "Nano" infection mode, yikes. I've rarely seen a mode so fundamentally broken with bafflingly stupid design / balancing. The melee attacking infected are held back by awful platforming controls so they offset it by making them bullet sponges. The non-infected only have to be hit once to be infected plus they have a paltry amount of ammo. Either this was tested and they were too incompetent to see how broken it is, or they never tested it and shipped it anyway. I don't know what's worse.
2:34:56
This games movement is equivalent to taking the speed of quake and subtracting the amount of control you have over it
You knew this game was gonna be a hilarious disaster with all the bullshit that AJ had to go through in the first 15 minutes alone 😂
Nice to see Classy Gav representing us
Actually brought back my childhood when Joe plays the classic modes - used to play countless hours of CrossFire back then given I was living in Asia and craving for a free-to-play MMO shooter. Even with that I just hate the fact that they made this _completely_ Xbox exclusive. As someone who had been playing the game for years, I'd say this game was never meant to be played with a controller.
Its not that it shouldn't be on controller but it almost has like 8-way traction when aiming, just poorly ported.
This was freakin hilarious hahaha... Thks joe for doing this 😂. 8:37 This was cringe af
Start the game and it IMMEDIATELY throws the store at your face. They're not just saying "fuck subtlety," they want subtlety to be railed by the whole football team.
The most BLATENT rip off of Counterstrike i have ever seen. @24:00 you were just playing Ddust2. Fuckin Chinese bullshit.
25:10 Lol. 43:20 Parkour! Hopefully you use those clips. put that clip in the review.
Definitely isn't the 1st time gamepass has done that. Certain games will have some problems for stuff like that. They usually get it fixed relatively quickly
how is it so difficult for americans to believe that china and india is more populated than the US and majority of both of them are poor as shit. so a free game like this make sense.
Wait is this a mobile game that went to console?
Can you upload the second stream of this game
Soon!
Nano could be entertaining but they need to tweak the settings in that mode. Cut down how many times people have to play too.
Baffling that it on gamepass but you can’t even play the campaign. Definitely one of the biggest fuck ups
The use of cyborgs over zombies reminds me of a video I watched on Chinese cod. They used cyborgs too because apparently China is no fan of zombies so I guess them and Joe have something in common
That's where the movie Army of the Dead from Netflix got that idea of (At least that is what I think). There is a scene when a zombie is shot in the face and suddenly he has an machine like skeleton like the Terminator with blue eyes instead of red eyes.
Yea, it has something to do with some weird standards and practices law or rule or something over in China where reanimated corpses (whether zombie or hell, even just skeletons) cannot be shown in almost all forms of media (I dunno if it’s some kind of religious or social taboo or based on superstition or what).
Joe and His Cat: A Love Story
the first map looks like Dust2 from CS:GO
This is pure chaos
For anyone out their crossfire was a really good game it put counter strike to shame even though it was a shameless ripoff.
Crossfire x is just a petty cashgrab and you'd be better off trying crossfire west if you can get into a server.
Edit: regarding the Spector mode Mission Against Terror (MAT) had it but you could use smoke, water balloons, spray paint, and paintball/goo guns to help you find the ghosts.
8:30 Don’t you have enough money for your purchase?
Oh Lord, that Search and Destroy map is just a terrible version of Dust II.
This would've been great. Like, 12 years ago. But then there were still better options.
Huge yikes.
No ADS? WTF?
Crossfire don’t get caught up in the crossfire
Dang, and I was so excited about this game when I saw the trailers for it 😔 Glad I waited
The dev put more effort on the stores and gamepass than the gameplay.
I still have the Crossfire game from the 90s in my attic 🤣
worse than cs:go and unfortunately games like this are what the quote on quote future of gaming is
This game in some serious need of the parkor mechanics from Dying Light.
What I don't get about this game is why They decided to release it exclusively on console, like... WTF ??? They choose the worst platform for competitive shooters.
Campaign reminds me of earlier call of duty’s but without their good sound design at least some of that shit was unique
Since this is like Asian Cs, I am assuming there are spray patterns lol. Would love to watch Joe play csgo as well xD
25:08 lmao
33:58-34:29 100% in the 2022 10 worst games clip hmu for bets
This is just nicer-looking Combat Arms
People in Asia spent trillions of dollars on this game @@. The zombie mode that AJ played suppose to a playground for paid users with their broken ass weapons
Here we go. Paywalls in gamepass is officially a thing.
It always was, Forza had a free base game and paid dlc on release.However this game promised campaign on gamepass and then charged which is more like a misleading thing.
@@HarshNerf ehh, Forza is only car packs though. The base game itself is completely free no strings attached.
@@HarshNerf The devs didn't promised the campaign on Game Pass it said it won't be included in the fine print which Joe caught and pointed out in one of livestreams when he played the Grounded game that was removed from the reuploaded trailer on UA-cam but was in the Xbox july 2020 showcase stream, it's only when Microsoft started seeing the complaints from people about that at launch day they had the developers act like it was a unintentional error to the press to cover their bs and remove the paywall in the game pass service.
WOW!
Not only is this game a crappy FPS, it is also trying to sell you things!
That is some bull crap!
Why would I want to buy something crappy?!
I couldn't even get the game to work lol
edit: i realize that it was a blessing it didn't work
OMG its look like PB(point blank) the trash game from SEA(many still playing it in SEA dont know the rest of the world) with better graphic.... XD
Metal gear online had cloak and dagger it was way better because stealth was the focus of that game, this one is just like a csgo on the run stealth
This game isn't knew it's an old mmofps for pc that the rebranded with an x to trick people into playing it again
I'm going through thsi to wait till u get to the game that doesn't work and is broken worse then battlefield 2024
i just clicked ahead sixteen minutes and joes already raging at the game lol 😆
Yeah because it’s a trash game.
The not being able to look down the sights issue has now been fixed, it was a bug
Secretly joe has some love for this game.
Gamepass games have turned into glorified f2p microtransaction filled games. Almost every single one
I wanted to play the single player at least, after the really cool Control game... Only to learn it was an Xbox game. Oh well.
Cant imagine why this game didnt come out on steam. first 100% negative game on steam
Wait the campaing Is not free??? How the game let me play it? Don't tell me i purchased it automatically 😠😠😠
Did joe really say he hasn't seen anything so broken on release...u forget the disappointment that is 2042 🤦♂️
Or Cyperpunk 2077
Joe should try play games like rerez...i can already tell he gonna go ape
I tried this game for ten minutes, its so bad.
this game is basically a mobile game
It’s clear they wanted this to be the next big CSGO but for console but the issue is CSGO ain’t for console and this shit is trash
then there's robloxs with Frontline a game thats probably going to better then crossfire.
You took my money!? Lmao