@@abrax.98 have you ever listen to punk vs goth music lmao goth is based around things like death or darker things and dark things in general plus a more sad attitude (sorry im not goth) and punk is based off leftist politics and angry music and generally more angry attitude??
they’re not super different no, a lot of them clash a lot and often people are both goth and punk. goth stemmed directly out of punk, hence the genre “post punk” (the first goth genre) and had the DIY focus like punk not the same but very connected and related. a lot of punk rock bands are also goth bands.
@@themelodicduo7759 Not all goths are sad really. Most goths are actually very nice, bubbly people. It’s just a music culture and fashion, not a personality type.
Forget scene and emo. You missed HUGE goth icons of the 80s. That's pretty much where goth as we know it today originated. Robert smith, siouxsie sioux. The trad goth scene was booming.
I was incredibly startled with the new romantic look they chose for the 80s as well, the new romantics were miles more toward the mainstream than early post punk. I was expecting a Souxsie look, as you would given her massive influence.
Exactly! I'm like this is terrible, all the looks basically look the same but not as what they are supposed to be. And it's like they know nothing about punk and goth. We should have some real experts redo this video
@@kellz6266 I was born in 1998 and I know the difference between goth, punk, steampunk, emo, scene, vamp and pastel goth styles... don't disrespect me like that 🤣
Exactly? They completely miss out mentioning any trad goth icons such as Siouxsie Sioux and Robert Smith but count Rihanna as a trendsetting goth icon (no hate to Rihanna)
1:50 she looks normal, not alt. 2:13 she looks normal, not alt. why can't you just do goth, or vamp, or punk? they are literally nothing alike and you just smoosh them together like this.
Just imagine how we Goths are feeling after watching this! Talk about missing the mark completely! Seriously who put this video's looks together a blind person!?!
Barely 😂 some of them were just regular soft glam looks and they went "dark lips = goth, right?" Like the one with red lipstick??? Wtf? No black or anything. Just regular makeup with fire engine red lips
@@superstar2446 Well goth isn't strictly speaking a look. Its a subculture based on music. Goth FASHION is different to what goth is. But yeah I agree. They weren't really goth they were just oh hey black eyeshadow!
I can understand why they put morticia Addams in there as an "iconic goth" but her makeup was just not put on well in the least and that was the only one I could even somewhat agree with
“Let’s give them black lipstick and eyeshadow that’s really punk goth” But seriously I don’t think people walked around with their hair like the bride of Frankenstein
This misses the mark by an order of magnitude. It shows an unfortunate lack of understanding of any of the alternative subcultures, influences and divergences. Disappointing and cringe inducing.
I’m so confused how they even arrived on this list. Not only a lack of understanding, a lack of even the most basic research. I can’t get over leaving out Goth but including Steampunk.
@@bagandbroad they didnt miss the new romantic look -thats what the 80s look was - but I'm seriously disappointed in how off the mark that was as well. Like. Wasnt cybergoth absolutely massive in the early 2000s as well? The whole shebang was also WAY too understated.
Being a professional makeup artist who has studied and specialized in the history of different styles of makeup. I can professionally say that this video is wack.
Being a professional UA-cam commenter with 15 years of experience of recognizing trolls, I can say that you are just hating on the beautiful women in this video.
@@37654 Uhm they never said anything about the women here though. Why you gotta assume things and derive all the negative conclusions? Maybe the person here DID do a proper research and believes that these STYLES,not WOMEN are not apt in accordance to their time frame? Why so toxic?
So, if it was just “100 years of Vamp,” you’d be good. Unfortunately, there’s nothing about the origins of Goth, which is traceable back to the late 1970’s, and had a really distinct look that evolved into some other looks not covered here.
@@WhiskeyBlack777 but wouldn't the most famous ones would have been lithium and come as you are and heart shaped box if smells like teen Spirit never existed
exactly. like bro i didnt get a freaking emo fringe in the middle of 2020 so i so people could just forget about emo entirely i did it for emo revival like wtf
they either looked normal or like they were wearing a halloween costume. none of this was accurate and they act like "goth" is a ginormous choker and that's it
I didn't wear MCR shirts and fry my side bangs to a crisp with a straightener in 2009 for y'all to call "Steampunk" the defining goth look of the 2000s lmaooooooo
Noémie DeSantis So are punk and vamp, but they made those synonymous with goth, they may as well go the whole 9 yards and put in the defining alternative look of the decade regardless.
SEIZURE WARNING⚠️ : There are flashing lights in the beginning of the video, if you are photosensitive please be careful. I was in for a shock when I opened the video and started feeling an aura for a few moments
I feel like this video was made by people that used to tell me "it's not halloween" or couldn't supress their urge to scream "freak" at me in the halls in high school.
@koifurigana I wasn't so much referring just to the makeup. It's like when you write a paper about something you've read, vs. Writing a paper about something you've experienced. It lacks something that I can't quite pinpoint how to say, but I akin the overall tone to those people in high school gave off.
woah that was bad make up was poorly done no fitting outfits/accessoires most of descriptions were just hilarious not even the music fits why not taking real goths/punks doing their own look instead of taking random mainstream people and doing such poorly done looks big minus is not mentioning any real icons like siouxie or robert smith not showing trad goth is pretty sad too where did you do research for looks? pinterest?
This whole video was a trainwreck. Absolutely no effort was put into researching the video, they just went with over generalized stereotypes & false facts.
Are we really surprised they skipped the whole emo scene days of the 2000’s? Their ‘100 years of whatever beauty’ ALWAYS presents half assed looks that are only partially accurate
@@lnbni even with that, the things presented here as "punk" or "goth" are either unrelated or on the other hand, the correct ones are poorly represented
they only care to showcase (tip of the iceberg) conventionally accepted/attractive parts of fashion trends. its so clear that no one on the production team is into any type of alt or unpopular fashion, which is fine, its just that they also didn't bother to do actual research into the subcultures 😭
Bev Lim I’ve seen a lot of historically inaccurate videos but this one is by far the worst. Every era was done wrong, either techniques or colours that hadn’t been invented in makeup.
i was so excited for 2000s just to see that it wasnt even what i expected. i was so excited for the thick eyeliner, the racoon-looking bangs covering your eye, etc :(
They'r basing these looks off of "popular" fashion of the time but the whole point of goth and punk was that it went against the mainstream. That 1970's style was only vaguely punk. Not sure why they COMPLETELY skipped the 80's goth movement and the 50's beatnik style (the spiritual predecessor to punk and goth). And they picked steam punk for the 2000's? No scene or emo fashion? Are you kidding me? The biggest resurgence of punk in decades, the popularization of guy-liner and brightly colored hair before it was socially acceptable and they just skip it? And of course, Rhiannon invented the dark lipstick trend. Definitely wasn't a thing in the 90's and 80's.
WOAH, no scene makeup, attributing dark lips to Rhianna alone, and making a random statement about non-binary vamps that doesn’t seem particularly relevant to the video itself. Yikes.
@@yourdaddyonceler1239 yeah lol and the "saturday nigth rebel" What a pity (sorry for mistake, I bad in english). >> Breizh PunK . kiss - oi - and punks never die.
It literally looks like someone went "I know everything about goth/punk so I'm going to make a video on it. Screw research, everything I need to know is in my massive galaxy brain"
Yami Requiem it makes me so sad how people forget the history behind the goth and punk scene; how it’s so much more about the music, subculture and politics than the fashion.
5:46 “Rihanna experiments with Goth makeup, encouraging others to do the same.” Lol….. what. Yes thank you Rihanna for single-handedly reviving goth / punk. I’m sure you and your pop music were the only reason goth and punk were brought back 😒
Putting Mortician Addams and Rihanna in the same video as “gothic icons” is disrespectful. Also I know this is inspired by the characters but Morticia would never ever wear pastel eyeshadow!
@@alinearaujo7285 don't defend this honey.. they combined two very different characters for one "look." Why mention Morticia and have the model *snap* if it wasn't meant to be a play on both characters.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the eyeliner you referred to as “henna” is actually “kajal” for the Middle Eastern Vamp look. I might be wrong though!
O.P.I. well say (sorry my english isn't good) , Grunge is my revelation, tragic end (in my opinion), but new good band play it again, punk is punk and rock'n'roll (all the family ^^) it's my "religion" #PunKsnoTdeAd
I agree. I was a teenager in the 90's and VERY goth, lol. They basically made the 90's model grunge with dark makeup. That definitely isn't the goth era I remember-it was corsets and velvet and vinyl and pleather. I'm not sure what kind of research was done for this video, but it definitely seems like it was Google research without consulting anyone that is familiar with the history of goth style.
One of the most historically and aesthetically inaccurate videos I have ever seen. You can tell they barely researched the subjects mentioned in this video.
They recreated a Theda Bara look. It's actualy accurate. And the black lipstick was used sometimes for the black and white movies in that time, to create more contrast on the movie.
Wish they included cybergoth, emo/scene, ska, greaser, mod, haute goth, lolita (got a nod in pastel goth, credit where due), psychobilly, skate (though I guess it could be considered alt nation), etc. Also, not a safetypin to be seen?! Le gasp!
@@thatbitchnoemie These are all subsections of goth/punk/vamp fashion and some of the older ones like ska, mod, and greaser (especially) are direct origins of a lot of modern looks in the punk scene
Punk isn’t a way of dressing, it’s a state of mind and the way you see things. Punks can dress however they want and still be punk because of the way they think, except most of us express it through certain clothes
why didn't they mention any 80s goth movement when that is literally the title of the video WHAT
OMG RIGHT???
@@raekardokus9526 so true
@Elizabeth Cullen I know! Siouxsie is literally the Queen of Goths!
I KNOW!!!
that's what happens when you only focus on the fashion and not on the music and the reason behind the fashion
No Vampira? No Elvira? No Siouxsie? No Christina Ricci as Wednesday? These are goth icons!
Winona Ryder or Fairuza balk
And Robert smith.
Not to forget the thousands of people all throughout the 2000s who wore their emo shirts and fried their side bangs to a crisp with a straightener.
Kathleen Connor EXACTLY, I DID NOT DYE AND CHOP MY HAIR OFF FOR THE 2000S TO BE STEAMPUNK
Patricia Morrison 😭
MJ Sleepy Raptor I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY DIDN’T MENTION HER 😭
Wait... we're grouping punk and goth together now? Last time I checked, the two are very different, like super different.
seriously... different music, ideas, look, attitude like they are barely comparable
They like to tell themselves that. Doesn’t make it true.
@@abrax.98 have you ever listen to punk vs goth music lmao goth is based around things like death or darker things and dark things in general plus a more sad attitude (sorry im not goth) and punk is based off leftist politics and angry music and generally more angry attitude??
they’re not super different no, a lot of them clash a lot and often people are both goth and punk. goth stemmed directly out of punk, hence the genre “post punk” (the first goth genre) and had the DIY focus like punk
not the same but very connected and related. a lot of punk rock bands are also goth bands.
@@themelodicduo7759 Not all goths are sad really. Most goths are actually very nice, bubbly people. It’s just a music culture and fashion, not a personality type.
Forget scene and emo. You missed HUGE goth icons of the 80s. That's pretty much where goth as we know it today originated. Robert smith, siouxsie sioux. The trad goth scene was booming.
I was incredibly startled with the new romantic look they chose for the 80s as well, the new romantics were miles more toward the mainstream than early post punk. I was expecting a Souxsie look, as you would given her massive influence.
Idk what you’re talking about obviously Rihanna is the only influence on goth fashion 🤧
@@nicolefuentes7030 say sike rn
I know my blood is boiling! Preps and normies have no clue as to our subculture and how we really started
exactly. dont even know why they try at this point
I feel like this was made by people that dont know, or were never a part of, any of this.
Exactly! I'm like this is terrible, all the looks basically look the same but not as what they are supposed to be. And it's like they know nothing about punk and goth. We should have some real experts redo this video
was probably made by Gen Z people.
@@kellz6266 I was born in 1998 and I know the difference between goth, punk, steampunk, emo, scene, vamp and pastel goth styles... don't disrespect me like that 🤣
I know. I feel like these were made for the money, but honestly, would it be so hard to get a real fashion historian? Like. Boi.
sinny k ok boomer
punk and alternative culture was and still is a huge movement... not a fashion trend among celebrities.
Yeah it’s like they forgot all the amazing punk and alt musicians and the mentality’s of the cultures omg I screamed
THANK YOU
THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT.
it is literally an entire way of thinking + the fashion and they're going to act as if putting a lil bit of odd color eyeshadow is alt???? Honey no
EXACTLY
Nobody:
Literally nobody:
Video writers: “Let’s add glitter eye shadow! That screams punk rock!”
I know, right? I was so dissapointed!
I was waiting for the whole myspace emo/punk era and they just skipped it.
Like, honey no, that's Marc Bolan and Bowie. Not goth.
you can be goth and like glitter ouch :/
ye cause punk is totally based glitters and eye shadow.
The makeup artist were more “goth” than the models
Fr though that’s the sad part 💀
I thought so too
C U R S E D true tho
Because this is a review of history, while they abide to more modern day punk style.
Bruh I know. 😭
Ah yes Rhianna, my gothic icon
LOLLL
Exactly? They completely miss out mentioning any trad goth icons such as Siouxsie Sioux and Robert Smith but count Rihanna as a trendsetting goth icon (no hate to Rihanna)
🤣🤣
😭💀💀💀
LMAOOOOO
Do us ALL a favor. Don't do another one of these involving alternative beauty until you do some actual research.
This is what happens when non alternative people try to create punk/goth/indie looks, same thing happened with eboys smh
Honestly though
@@34weaselsinatrenchcoat11 how do you become a indie/alt person then?
@@444fawn music!
@Angel its pretty simple, music taste, just know alternative is anything but normal. thats the entire meaning.
I didn’t give myself tattoos with a sewing needle for y’all to do this to us
Nico haha same
How does it look?
Unknown_ Rider actually not too bad. I don’t really recommend it, but I was 17 and my parents hated tattoos and I did it out of spite
@@Other-eye What did you get done?
@DustonCall that’s absolutely horrible
I‘m 16 and I could’ve told you more about punk and goth fashion and history throughout the 70s-2000s
i’d love for you to enlighten us!
im upset that siouxsie wasnt mentioned once. she literally is the QUEEN of goth
LITERALLY LIKE-
This video is an insult to Goths *EVERYWHERE!*
YES OMG
EXACTLY
i literally rewinded the video when they moved on to the 90s thinking "there's no way we're skipping trad goth wtf" Literally the most iconic
Me: thinking that this doesn't seem right or accurate, checks comments, okay we are all in agreement.
Same, like, did you see pastel goth?? That’s nothing close to it at all-
hahaha sammee
@@milkywaii8221 agreed.
Yeppp
Yesss 100% me. I watched the video and I was like “uhhh this don’t seem right” then I checked the comments and u was so happy I wasn’t the only one
1:50 she looks normal, not alt.
2:13 she looks normal, not alt.
why can't you just do goth, or vamp, or punk? they are literally nothing alike and you just smoosh them together like this.
I’m sure it was considered but it was back then so ofc it’s different
wtf is alt?
Bruh alt beauty was different back then idiot
@@midnight3075 alternative
wah wah
I've never felt so offended in my entire life, and I'm not even goth!
lowkey same
Just imagine how we Goths are feeling after watching this! Talk about missing the mark completely! Seriously who put this video's looks together a blind person!?!
Your allowed to be offended
The stereotype of no one understanding goths makes this funny to me xd
@@mattmc9812 ??
They just gave everyone black eye shadow and said “Bam, it’s goth.”
Barely 😂 some of them were just regular soft glam looks and they went "dark lips = goth, right?" Like the one with red lipstick??? Wtf? No black or anything. Just regular makeup with fire engine red lips
@@ciearakimberly523 and in the 1940s The girl had bleach blonde hair.
@@rachelwaln4728 ok? Blonde ppl can be goth or punk.... but that look wasn't goth at all XD
@@superstar2446 Well goth isn't strictly speaking a look. Its a subculture based on music. Goth FASHION is different to what goth is. But yeah I agree. They weren't really goth they were just oh hey black eyeshadow!
God this is lazy.
are you serious?.... yall really just think black eyeshadow and a dark lip w/ some eyeliner is goth?.... I cant-
it can be, calm down
Real talk: none of this was remotely Goth or gothic, especially the 80s-2010s
I can understand why they put morticia Addams in there as an "iconic goth" but her makeup was just not put on well in the least and that was the only one I could even somewhat agree with
The femme fatale look made me wanna die
Like, 2000s = steampunk?? That was literally the peak of kids frying their bangs harder than a kfc nugget
or punk for that matter.
womp womp
title: goth and punk
video: sTeAmPuNk AnD rIhAnNa
Rihanna did appropriate goth stylings a lot of times, but these guy are never correct when making these videos
@@fallendevonish1869 goth styling ? Tf goth ≠ black lipstick and black clothing
hehe
Okinawa Cairo and pin up which. Unless it’s gothabilly or hellbunny idk it doesn’t really fit
@@fallendevonish1869 appropriate
“Let’s give them black lipstick and eyeshadow that’s really punk goth”
But seriously I don’t think people walked around with their hair like the bride of Frankenstein
"punk goth" why do I feel like the directors of the vid had at some point actually unironically said that...
This misses the mark by an order of magnitude. It shows an unfortunate lack of understanding of any of the alternative subcultures, influences and divergences. Disappointing and cringe inducing.
I’m so confused how they even arrived on this list. Not only a lack of understanding, a lack of even the most basic research. I can’t get over leaving out Goth but including Steampunk.
@@bagandbroad they didnt miss the new romantic look -thats what the 80s look was - but I'm seriously disappointed in how off the mark that was as well. Like. Wasnt cybergoth absolutely massive in the early 2000s as well? The whole shebang was also WAY too understated.
Maddy C you’re completely right. I don’t know why I wrote that. Thanks!!
Maddy C I don’t know what was going on in my brain. Thank you for pointing that out!!!!
I feel like none of these were goth or punk
Yes thank you. I was coming for punk and this basically just the evolution of vamp and softcore goth. Like it's fine but change the title.
I think the very first one was a little gothic.
Jena Fleischmann same....
@@aminasafina5904 vamp not goth, sadly
70s look definitely was .
"Rihanna experiments with goth makeup, encouraging others to do so too"
ok i'll just pretend i didnt read that
ah, yes, rihanna. my favorite goth icon
On every one they make the model wear a choker, then slap on dark eyeshadow and a berry lip and call it a day
HOW DID YOU GUYS COMPLETELY MISS SCENE/EMO/SCREAMO/GOTH 2000S STYLE LIKE WOAH TOTAL MISS
and instead they go for....... steampunk ??
Exactly!! Like what about how iconic mallgoth fashion was??
i was a goth in the 90s and early 2000s... their makeup was laughably tame and inaccurate compared to reality.
@@allibatt Emo is more or less, soft Goth. And they didn't even reach Emo status with their example.
This whole video has a “Friday evening project due in 30 min” vibe to it
what about Siouxsie Sioux? she was literally the inspiration for the whole 80s goth look
I didn't see a single goth, emo or even scene. The people who made this have a very weak understanding of these cultures after the 70's
Before the 70s too.
They have an even worse understanding before the 70's.
@@HeavenlyEchoVirus exactly. Like, when will people learn that nineteen twenties fashion wasn't frills and excessive makeup. DO YOUR RESEARCH AAAA
Being a professional makeup artist who has studied and specialized in the history of different styles of makeup. I can professionally say that this video is wack.
Can u tell about the actual one cause I'm genuinely curious
I know nothing but just watching the first minute and the 20s eyeshadow was horrible
Being a professional UA-cam commenter with 15 years of experience of recognizing trolls, I can say that you are just hating on the beautiful women in this video.
@@37654 I'm sure they meant the looks not the women themselves
@@37654
Uhm they never said anything about the women here though. Why you gotta assume things and derive all the negative conclusions?
Maybe the person here DID do a proper research and believes that these STYLES,not WOMEN are not apt in accordance to their time frame?
Why so toxic?
I knew this was gonna be wack when they put punk and goth into the same category and used it interchangeably
So, if it was just “100 years of Vamp,” you’d be good. Unfortunately, there’s nothing about the origins of Goth, which is traceable back to the late 1970’s, and had a really distinct look that evolved into some other looks not covered here.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Goth originated in the ‘20s and was heavily inspired by the Victorian era?
@@Spooky-Sara something about vikings too
Really did just skip 2000s Myspace Emo and Scene tho
Exactly my thoughts. Steampunk was nowhere near as popular lol
Ikr? I was like "where are the scene kids?"
I came down here to say just that!
yeah steampunk was weak and way less popular
There’s actually a UA-camr named Liisa Laducer (I think I spelled her name wrong) that covers emo in her men’s goth style video.
I did not argue with my mother and get called a freak to be portrayed as this
When they said “grunge” on the 90s girl, I flipped
That one pissed me off
ONGG
same
Grunge is Punk's baby brother. Without Punk there'd be no Grunge. Without Kathleen Hanna, there'd be no most overplayed Nirvana song ever.
@@WhiskeyBlack777 but wouldn't the most famous ones would have been lithium and come as you are and heart shaped box if smells like teen Spirit never existed
I'm just sad to see that Rihanna was referred as someone who encouraged goth style/makeup.
Blasphemy!!
Oh god they did? I'm out.
Someone’s mad 😸
@@mellyxstelly because she didn't encourage it?
why ? its bad ?
“Ok, let’s see... what eye makeup did punk/emo kids wear on the 2000’s?
Oh I know! GOLDEN GLITTER!!!!!”
Did you guys even try with this video tho
Tyra Devanney thank you!
No. No they did not.
Nope.
theyre running low on ideas
dude just because someone has dark lipstick doesn't mean they're goth TT
i know that triggered me so much
Yessss
Ikr I wear dark lipstick almost everyday and I don't consider myself goth
@@emilyherrera8633 dark lipsticks are superior 🖤
exactly
Punks, goths, and vamps watching this video and coming away with nothing: 👁👄👁
homestuck
This is like the video aunts would reference when they see someone with black lipstick like “oh are you a goth dear? I saw that on the youtube”
Y’all just gonna skip over emo like that never happened ?
exactly. like bro i didnt get a freaking emo fringe in the middle of 2020 so i so people could just forget about emo entirely i did it for emo revival like wtf
@@tacolord6764 same XD i was so triggered
Well... Noone cared about them so..
BRO BUT WHAT BOUT METALHEADS THO LIKE BRUH
GIVE US EMO
they either looked normal or like they were wearing a halloween costume. none of this was accurate and they act like "goth" is a ginormous choker and that's it
I didn't wear MCR shirts and fry my side bangs to a crisp with a straightener in 2009 for y'all to call "Steampunk" the defining goth look of the 2000s lmaooooooo
You do know that emo, steampunk and goth are three very different subcultures, right ?
That sounds like emo to me, not goth.
Emo has nothing to do with the goth subculture lmao
Noémie DeSantis So are punk and vamp, but they made those synonymous with goth, they may as well go the whole 9 yards and put in the defining alternative look of the decade regardless.
This is emo. Not goth
oml they included WII patriotism, they clearly don’t know what counter culture stands for
Did women in the 1940's have nose rings like the model?
@@rainluna9765 nope
And that victory red lipstick was clearly pink
SEIZURE WARNING⚠️ : There are flashing lights in the beginning of the video, if you are photosensitive please be careful. I was in for a shock when I opened the video and started feeling an aura for a few moments
I'm so sorry for that! They didn't even put a tw i-
Bump
commenting so it goes on top
I feel like this video was made by people that used to tell me "it's not halloween" or couldn't supress their urge to scream "freak" at me in the halls in high school.
exactly. im confused by the makeup artists, they seem to be goth themselves?? look at their outfits
@koifurigana I wasn't so much referring just to the makeup. It's like when you write a paper about something you've read, vs. Writing a paper about something you've experienced. It lacks something that I can't quite pinpoint how to say, but I akin the overall tone to those people in high school gave off.
How could they forget about emo
I remember many people in the 2000’s were emo not StEaMpUnK
THANK YOU
And to make it worse that’s not even what steampunk looks like in the slightest
STEAMPUNK LITERALLY LOOKS LIKE YOUR AVERAGE JESSICA THAT WORKS AT BATH AND BODY WORKS
They legit went "haha Ballad of Mona Lisa go brrrr"
OMG EXACTLY WHERE'S THE EMO
this video is extremely inaccurate and disappointing.
sums it up in about 2 words yep
you’ll live
@@chrissyswifey schlawg i posted ts 3 years ago 😭🙏🏼
Video title: Alternative Looks
Video: "here's what A-list celebrities wore"
This comment really got me hahaha
Fr tho
So a "Victorian" necklace makes a look steampunk... Ya okay
I was literally thinking the same thing. I saw that and was all "how is that look steampunk in the slightest?"
That hair is 0% steampunk
I literally said "oh it's the amazon goth"
I GUESS THAT PLUS GOLD GLITTER EYES.... its just sad how this whole thing had a couple hits and the entire rest was ill researched garbage
RIGHT?? I was trying to be nice but that's when my Dislike finally happened. ALL the makeup in this is just effing lazy.
That Pastel goth was THE most phoned in look I have ever seen. The model who wears it has a right to look pissed.
woah that was bad
make up was poorly done
no fitting outfits/accessoires
most of descriptions were just hilarious
not even the music fits
why not taking real goths/punks doing their own look
instead of taking random mainstream people and doing such poorly done looks
big minus is not mentioning any real icons like siouxie or robert smith
not showing trad goth is pretty sad too
where did you do research for looks?
pinterest?
That implies they did any research at all lol
I was thinking the same thing, it would have been so much better if they included actual goth fashion and had Bela Lugosi's Dead playing instead
Chill its just a video
@@no-tx6ko omg really? I thought it was a pony
Nah, you can still find some actual trad goth pics on pinterest, meaning this video is do much worse than pinterest.
This whole video was a trainwreck.
Absolutely no effort was put into researching the video, they just went with over generalized stereotypes & false facts.
did they seriously say that alternative people moved a decade of fashion cus of rihanna
Are we really surprised they skipped the whole emo scene days of the 2000’s? Their ‘100 years of whatever beauty’ ALWAYS presents half assed looks that are only partially accurate
Accurate
Gelina Vines They skipped them cause they have nothing to do with goth or punk, as the title suggests.
Linni Binni emo music is literally just pop punk so yes it is still related
@@lnbni even with that, the things presented here as "punk" or "goth" are either unrelated or on the other hand, the correct ones are poorly represented
they only care to showcase (tip of the iceberg) conventionally accepted/attractive parts of fashion trends. its so clear that no one on the production team is into any type of alt or unpopular fashion, which is fine, its just that they also didn't bother to do actual research into the subcultures 😭
* Slaps a bit of black makeup on their faces*
Allure: ya this is accurate
AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN ADD MUCH like guys really thats tame
Guys, stop leaving hate, this is accurate.
For stereotypical Disney movie “goths.”
oh god this video is a disaster...
Bev Lim I’ve seen a lot of historically inaccurate videos but this one is by far the worst. Every era was done wrong, either techniques or colours that hadn’t been invented in makeup.
Agreed, I mean, I had to make a comment for sure....what was this?
I feel like they don’t know what goth means
Jessie Jameson yes please she needs to make a video on this topic
@@threecheersforsweetcheesew3231 So many don't know what goth means.
"Punks rejected the hippie movement"
- shows the peace sign at the end -
That was not the piece signe it is a rude hand gesture in britan/France
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That wasn’t a peace sign.
It's the equivalent to flipping the bird in the UK LOL
This V means victory
i was so excited for 2000s just to see that it wasnt even what i expected. i was so excited for the thick eyeliner, the racoon-looking bangs covering your eye, etc :(
They'r basing these looks off of "popular" fashion of the time but the whole point of goth and punk was that it went against the mainstream. That 1970's style was only vaguely punk. Not sure why they COMPLETELY skipped the 80's goth movement and the 50's beatnik style (the spiritual predecessor to punk and goth). And they picked steam punk for the 2000's? No scene or emo fashion? Are you kidding me? The biggest resurgence of punk in decades, the popularization of guy-liner and brightly colored hair before it was socially acceptable and they just skip it? And of course, Rhiannon invented the dark lipstick trend. Definitely wasn't a thing in the 90's and 80's.
The makeup artists were more accurate then the actual models I exited the video when they mentioned Rhianna I was just done
same XD
Hey rogerina
But you missed the worst part, That Pastel goth was THE most phoned in look I have ever seen. The model who wears it has a right to look pissed.
@@desertmortician9332 fr what was that💀
Black eyeshadow= goth
omg the pastel goth-
I’m *w h e e z i n g*
so instead of saying 2000s emo/scene y’all went for a not even accurate steampunk look..? it doesn’t really fit?
As a goth, all I can say is: "No. Just No."
yep.
Same...
Same and I am not even a goth (I am rather a metalhead)
couldn't agreed more
Exactly. I just got into the goth subculture but wow these are just not it
4:30 OMG IS THAT A CHOPSTICK IN HER HAIR?!!! SO PUNK😍😍🤪🤪😂😂🤤🤤🙈🙈🕸🕷
WOAH, no scene makeup, attributing dark lips to Rhianna alone, and making a random statement about non-binary vamps that doesn’t seem particularly relevant to the video itself. Yikes.
No batcave or Elvira for the 80s???
Riiight
did you see anything in this video honestly
WHAT ABOUT VAMPIRA :(
Dr Bitchcraft vampira was 50s
@@supimbrody6960 no but my point was that she wasn't in the video at all
THE SPIKY HAIRED ONE GOT ME SHOOKETH
I'm not even part of this culture and even I know that this was all wrong. The timelines are incorrect and how they interact is also incorrect.
Honestly...who researched this?
No one
Hipsters.
You think this was researched at all!
@@yourdaddyonceler1239 yeah lol and the "saturday nigth rebel" What a pity (sorry for mistake, I bad in english).
>> Breizh PunK . kiss - oi - and punks never die.
It literally looks like someone went "I know everything about goth/punk so I'm going to make a video on it. Screw research, everything I need to know is in my massive galaxy brain"
Very interesting!! I wonder if they've ever considered putting research into the topics that they make videos on?
i love how these videos sound factual but it’s actually complete bs 😌
Because it’s buzzfeed, but then again it’s buzzfeed
fr lmao
Literally lol
Right???
Why do you love it
More like 100 years of smokey eyes and dark-ish lipstick
Honestly, yeah
Yami Requiem it makes me so sad how people forget the history behind the goth and punk scene; how it’s so much more about the music, subculture and politics than the fashion.
and the eyeshadow wasn’t even blended 😭
This hurts my feelings,
I have never been so offended by something I 100% agree with
5:46 “Rihanna experiments with Goth makeup, encouraging others to do the same.”
Lol….. what. Yes thank you Rihanna for single-handedly reviving goth / punk. I’m sure you and your pop music were the only reason goth and punk were brought back 😒
Rihanna my favourite goth icon 🥴
Putting Mortician Addams and Rihanna in the same video as “gothic icons” is disrespectful. Also I know this is inspired by the characters but Morticia would never ever wear pastel eyeshadow!
HAHAHA, this made me think of the movie: "All this I can forgive. But Debbie- pastels?" LOL :)
Ribbin Exactly!
that was not Morticia. that was Lily Munster, and she had blue eyeshadow
@@alinearaujo7285 don't defend this honey.. they combined two very different characters for one "look." Why mention Morticia and have the model *snap* if it wasn't meant to be a play on both characters.
That was Lily
They skipped 1996's The Craft and the impact it had on the goth scene. Missed the mark spectacularly.
Angela Benedict made a really great video on this subject.
Truth!!!
3:34 This guy's hair reminds me a lot of Neo Metal Sonic's quill design which was first seen in Sonic Heroes in 2003.
I expected Vampira for the 50's and Siouxsie for the 80's...
And Elvira in the 90's or almost metion her
Same!
I’m a freelance writer who covers these subgenres *and* used to be a makeup artist. Allure: if you’re listening, let me come help you fix this.
As a punk I would like to say, punk and goth are not the same thing and I don't even know what to vamp is
its weird to think that 2020 will soon be a category.
gabriela vallenilla be the yes the bts not soon, 6 more years till that happens
-i am confusion.-
It probably won't be a category until we're at least a few years into the 2020's.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the eyeliner you referred to as “henna” is actually “kajal” for the Middle Eastern Vamp look. I might be wrong though!
Yeah tf, lining your eyes with henna....has anyone in the history of ever done that? Kajal is just kohl, black soot mixed with a bit of oil
As a middle easterner, yeah it's kajal/kohl lol
Yup! Kajal indeed. I do not know what this video and it's people are doing 😀 and refuse to think about it 🕴️
It is called kajal like tf??
@@nm9688 I knew that sounded weird
Just because you wear eyeliner doesnt mean your alt
Emo is 2000s, Grunge is 90s, Punk and Hair Metal are 70s - 80s
I feel like goth would be 80s though lol
Emo is not goth, the same way grunge is not
Goth is definitely 80s. It started by bauhaus in 79..
O.P.I.
well say (sorry my english isn't good) , Grunge is my revelation, tragic end (in my opinion), but new good band play it again, punk is punk and rock'n'roll (all the family ^^) it's my "religion" #PunKsnoTdeAd
Pretty much everything prior to the 70s is just vamp. Pretty certain the people who made this video don't understand that though
I really didn't like how they did the makeup for the 90's and 2000's not really goth at all
I agree. I was a teenager in the 90's and VERY goth, lol. They basically made the 90's model grunge with dark makeup. That definitely isn't the goth era I remember-it was corsets and velvet and vinyl and pleather. I'm not sure what kind of research was done for this video, but it definitely seems like it was Google research without consulting anyone that is familiar with the history of goth style.
@@JennRighter Completely agree. I was a 90's goth and the makeup and style here is all wrong
I thought it was wrong too. I'm watching thinking uuummm that's not how we did it lol
Fr though.
I thought they would mention heroin chic or Marilyn Manson. I mean, I guess heroin chic isn't "goth" but it was pretty dark.
I did not put up with being barked at by middle schoolers for this to be considered "Alternative".
how could you forget the iconic era of scene girls?!
I agree! Scene girls/boys belong in this video for sure!
Definitely not
Honestly can’t forget that phase 🙌🏻
Not goth
Keyana Little cause they have nothing to do with goth. Misconceptions, all of it
i feel like y’all should really retry this cause this ain’t it
I like how the 1960's makeup look made it fun.
One of the most historically and aesthetically inaccurate videos I have ever seen. You can tell they barely researched the subjects mentioned in this video.
I stopped watching the moment they showed that extremely inaccurate 1920s look (long fuzzy/modern hair? That lipstick? Why?)
nikol karidi they always get 20s fashion wrong arrrrrrrrghhh
They recreated a Theda Bara look. It's actualy accurate. And the black lipstick was used sometimes for the black and white movies in that time, to create more contrast on the movie.
okay but the guy with the long hair suited the dark, unblended black eye makeup so welllllll
OK, besides the obvious lack of research and just, laziness of the whole video, can we just talk about the eyeliner DISASTER of the 1950s??? Like???
A real missed opportunity was playing the likes of The Cure, Joy Division and Bauhaus in the background.
can't cos of copyright. the music they did choose is awful though :/
they completely missed out what started most of the goth subculture, trad goths. and it's the same with emo and scene, they missed them out aswell.
THEY CALLED MORTICIA ADDAMS VAMP I CANT EVEN
IKKK
Then they made someone dressed as LILY MUNSTER do an ADDAM'S SNAP. And NOT EVEN AN ACCURATE ONE. These people are high af.
Wish they included cybergoth, emo/scene, ska, greaser, mod, haute goth, lolita (got a nod in pastel goth, credit where due), psychobilly, skate (though I guess it could be considered alt nation), etc. Also, not a safetypin to be seen?! Le gasp!
Uuuuh.. what have emo, scene, greaser, ska, psychobilly and skate got to do with GOTH and PUNK culture ?
@@thatbitchnoemie These are all subsections of goth/punk/vamp fashion and some of the older ones like ska, mod, and greaser (especially) are direct origins of a lot of modern looks in the punk scene
@@AllOfMyLoveTess Honey cybergoth and emo and pastel goth are NOT subsections of goth gtfo
@@thatbitchnoemie Oh my apologies! I didn't realize you were one of those gatekeeper people. I'll finish our conversation here then. Thank you.
@@AllOfMyLoveTess Facts are not gatekeeping, but whatevs buddy lol
Punk isn’t a way of dressing, it’s a state of mind and the way you see things. Punks can dress however they want and still be punk because of the way they think, except most of us express it through certain clothes
Exactly!!
Are you serious, I mean clearly no one on this team has ever been a part of any of these subcultures, but how'd they miss the mark so badly?!