We can have space but without time, nothing would happen and that’s what outer space is, planetary bodies exist within pockets of time(the fourth dimension) which allows reactions to occur within units of existence relative to the distance between such planetary bodies in space.
@@noworneversoulbeach what you just said about time being something that only affects planets and exists within pockets of time is objectively wrong. Time does affect the entire universe, outer space included. After all, time is a fundamental part of the universe’s expansion. After all, observations, such as those from NASA’s Euclid and Roman Space Telescopes, show how light from distant galaxies shifts due to redshift, a result of the universe expanding over time. This expansion is influenced by forces like dark energy, which accelerates the growth of the universe. www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/resources/teachable-moment/exploring-the-mystery-of-our-expanding-universe/ lambda.gsfc.nasa.gov/education/graphic_history/age.html
A 4 dimensional framework is the spacetime continuum like a box that make up 3 spatial dimensions of length, width, and height where objects exists in the box and 1 temporal dimension of time of where the events happen in the box. Adding a temporal dimension to the 4 dimensional framework of the box would add a new history of the box and adding a spatial dimension to the 4 dimensional box would make a bigger 5 dimensional framework
You seem to interchange dimension (realm) and dimension (physics). The stuff of it being transcendental or it being a higher dimension is using dimension in the realm sense. 5 dimensional would being referring to it in the way physics uses dimensions. I was curious what your 5th dimension would be, but you only argued for taking away the temporal dimension. So now you have a 3 dimensional realm that would need two new spatial dimensions.
Yeah it seems he doesn't get what higher demensional realms are in physics. Time isn't a dimension, it's the change between objects. Nothing about Otherworld displays 4 or 5D physics and such physics are extremely jarring and obvious. And in terms of realms, its obviously inspired by Taoist realms.
@@fearedjames Time is a dimension in physics. Spacetime is a 4d manifold comprised of 3 spatial dimension and 1 temporal dimension, at least. Otherwise agree.
@@DemLep Don't focus on one thing or strawman or dismantle his argument. Maybe that's not what you are purposely trying to do, but that is what your doing nonetheless. As people scaling otherworld to 5d and higher due to it being detailed to transcend the *dimensions* of the lower dimensions. Meaning all 3 spatial, and 1 temporal dimension that would make it beyond 4d ofcorse, and categorise it as 5d. The problem is that your assuming he was just talking about how it is transcendental in nature to the standard dimensions, which isn't even stated, or what he implied. So you either completely missed the point and don't have good listening comprehension. Or you had influence of speculative views, which intern made you ignorantly strawman him.
@joshuakulah1496 How did I strawman him? His claim didn't have enough to refute except the mixing of definitions. He never showed where there was extra dimensions or what they would be. Just claimed the number was higher. I guess if I cared if there was time in otherworld I could see if that hold true, but having time would help since than he would only need to account for 1 new dimension.
The otherworld is a non physical plane. There nothing in Dragon Ball about a higher dimensional framework that has the quality of the lower dimensions just like the 4 dimensional framework of spacetime has the quality of all 3 dimensional planes with it own history. The otherworld is show to be a 3 dimensional plane because the flow of time still flow liner and for it be a 5 dimensional framework is if it has a higher spatial beyond spacetime
There no proof the living realm is a true spacetime continuum that has all of space and time it can be a 4 dimensional framework if it is a plane of spacetime that has the history of all 3 dimensions plane
We can have space but without time, nothing would happen and that’s what outer space is, planetary bodies exist within pockets of time(the fourth dimension) which allows reactions to occur within units of existence relative to the distance between such planetary bodies in space.
@@noworneversoulbeach what you just said about time being something that only affects planets and exists within pockets of time is objectively wrong.
Time does affect the entire universe, outer space included. After all, time is a fundamental part of the universe’s expansion. After all, observations, such as those from NASA’s Euclid and Roman Space Telescopes, show how light from distant galaxies shifts due to redshift, a result of the universe expanding over time. This expansion is influenced by forces like dark energy, which accelerates the growth of the universe.
www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/resources/teachable-moment/exploring-the-mystery-of-our-expanding-universe/
lambda.gsfc.nasa.gov/education/graphic_history/age.html
A 4 dimensional framework is the spacetime continuum like a box that make up 3 spatial dimensions of length, width, and height where objects exists in the box and 1 temporal dimension of time of where the events happen in the box. Adding a temporal dimension to the 4 dimensional framework of the box would add a new history of the box and adding a spatial dimension to the 4 dimensional box would make a bigger 5 dimensional framework
10:10 is where this video ends look up the meaning behind 1010
You seem to interchange dimension (realm) and dimension (physics). The stuff of it being transcendental or it being a higher dimension is using dimension in the realm sense. 5 dimensional would being referring to it in the way physics uses dimensions.
I was curious what your 5th dimension would be, but you only argued for taking away the temporal dimension. So now you have a 3 dimensional realm that would need two new spatial dimensions.
Yeah it seems he doesn't get what higher demensional realms are in physics. Time isn't a dimension, it's the change between objects. Nothing about Otherworld displays 4 or 5D physics and such physics are extremely jarring and obvious.
And in terms of realms, its obviously inspired by Taoist realms.
@@fearedjames Time is a dimension in physics. Spacetime is a 4d manifold comprised of 3 spatial dimension and 1 temporal dimension, at least. Otherwise agree.
@@DemLep Don't focus on one thing or strawman or dismantle his argument. Maybe that's not what you are purposely trying to do, but that is what your doing nonetheless.
As people scaling otherworld to 5d and higher due to it being detailed to transcend the *dimensions* of the lower dimensions. Meaning all 3 spatial, and 1 temporal dimension that would make it beyond 4d ofcorse, and categorise it as 5d. The problem is that your assuming he was just talking about how it is transcendental in nature to the standard dimensions, which isn't even stated, or what he implied. So you either completely missed the point and don't have good listening comprehension. Or you had influence of speculative views, which intern made you ignorantly strawman him.
When I said lower dimensions, I ment they stated the lower realm. Which is in reference to the mortal realm. Living World/Outer space you may call it.
@joshuakulah1496 How did I strawman him? His claim didn't have enough to refute except the mixing of definitions. He never showed where there was extra dimensions or what they would be. Just claimed the number was higher.
I guess if I cared if there was time in otherworld I could see if that hold true, but having time would help since than he would only need to account for 1 new dimension.
The otherworld is a non physical plane. There nothing in Dragon Ball about a higher dimensional framework that has the quality of the lower dimensions just like the 4 dimensional framework of spacetime has the quality of all 3 dimensional planes with it own history. The otherworld is show to be a 3 dimensional plane because the flow of time still flow liner and for it be a 5 dimensional framework is if it has a higher spatial beyond spacetime
Different 4d realm, how? isnt that implying the living world is 4d?
There no proof the living realm is a true spacetime continuum that has all of space and time it can be a 4 dimensional framework if it is a plane of spacetime that has the history of all 3 dimensions plane
It's a 5D realm via the transcendental scan and other scans like it that I showed