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0:00 The Promise
1:07 "Real" Computer
2:59 Current Lineup
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6:35 Why Not a MacBook?
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9:36 My iPad Workflow - Наука та технологія
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Two objective facts that weren't mentioned here. Samsung's Tab lineup lacks professional apps, but actually can serve as a fully functional laptop replacement for day to day tasks. Multitasking in OneUI (even before DeX) just absolutely thwomps iPadOS. This makes the "who is the iPad FOR?" question worse.
However, the iPad mini is arguably the best small form factor tablet available in the United States and has been for a few years. I'm not much for Apple's ecosystem anymore, but I keep considering coming back for that lil guy.
Recently bought my wife a 9th gen. Bought her the original iPad mini when we were in grad school. I use the small iPad Pro daily at work. Totally agree with you, it’s a no man’s land of almost good enough. Hence why, even though my wife likes having them to play with, I can’t really find a compelling case for one for myself. I’d like to, but it’s basically a big phone and I intentionally bought a 13 mini because I don’t need a big phone. 🤷♂️
paperlike is ahh ive tried it
Dude that 2018 iPad Pro has really stood the test of time runs like it did day one
I know right. I'm pretty glad I bought one too 🫶🏼
I have a 9th gen iPad bc it's what I got for my birthday a couple years ago, and although I HATE the design and stupid lighting port, I have to admit that the performance is still really good.
Still rocking with that same model after almost 5 years and I don’t plan to replace it for years to come. Only the end of support would stop it.
I still use my 2015 1st gen 12.9"...Still does the job of sketching and consuming...
on my 2019 ipad mini and still works like new
Phones are already pretty big, laptops are getting thinner and lighter, and the iPad's pricing is frankly downright stupid and should not be crossing into laptop territory like it does.
phones getting "bigger" doesn't help in this specific use case because they're generally just really tall and skinny, which is a terrible aspect ratio for anything but watching movies filmed in cinemascope. a 6.8" display at 16:9 or 16:10 is much bigger and more useful for non-movie-watching tasks than these narrow ass things. I have a 6.1" (19.5:9) s23, and while it is much smaller than the 6.8" Galaxy Ultras overall, the aspect ratio makes that size gain pretty useless? I ran games on both my S23 and a oneplus 12 (6.8" at 20:9 aspect ratio, so even worse) and the UI elements in most games were pretty much just as hard to see. Outside of watching narrow aspect ratio movies, actual usage was so much more comfortable on my 10.9" iPad Air 5 with the 4:3 aspect ratio.
Vast majority of people buy the base one for 329. Period. It's still fast enough to do school and for kids. That is who use them the most. Not only that tell me who is gonna compete? Ill wait..... If android made anything worth a shit for tablets then there would be competition. But google ignored tablets for the last ten years then puts out a total shit basic tablet that didn't even move the needle.
I think buying any phones, tablets, or Apple's laptops brand new these days is a bit ridiculous, unless for whatever reason you absolutely need the latest for your use case. If you buy a gen or two behind, the tech is still solid and you can find them for half the price of retail or even less at times, whether it's used or new old stock being sold at discount. I got an m1 MacBook Air, m1 iPad Pro, and an m2 Mac Mini each for at least half the retail price.
I personally find big phones to be unwieldy just for basic messaging. iPads do most of what I want anyway, honestly my only gripe is the files system I wish was more robust.
I own an s24 ultra and an s9+: I find both vary useful and perfectly usable without the other device on hand. I'm not an apple boy but I certainly think a tablet is more useful than my phone and far more portable than my desktop.
I use my iPad to read comics, PDFs, and iBooks, mostly in bed.
Would you consider an e-ink tablet(colored or black/white) if they were better than they are right now, for this purpose?
Same! And I had an e-ink tablet before, it was hard to use and I did not like how it read.
Wonder how many comics/books you could buy with the cost of an ipad
Likewise, I bought a cheap refurbished model for use as an advanced kindle. Pretty good for college
Same. I was going to get a Pro model for the display, but it doesn't seem worth it for what I am using it for.
I‘m a medical student and I have the iPad Pro 11inch model and it’s just perfect for my studies. Especially in clinical rounds. Amazing for portability in hospital and the power is much needed when studying multiple resources and making reports and presentations at home is a really smooth experience. I’ve made a smooth study-flow around my iPad Pro with note-taking, textbooks, flashcards and more.
Yeah, mine was a game charger in nursing school, could have books open, while using the pen and goodnotes app to write notes, sign stuff.
This is the 3rd or 4th Austin video I've seen of him just having no clue why anyone would buy an ipad... I just think he is so disconnected from 90% of common users because of his job and expertise that it clouds his judgement. My kids have iPads for school and watching TV. I have an ipad for notetaking, reading, watching movies while traveling, light video/photo editing.... things I could bring a laptop for, but the ipad is just more portable and does everything well enough. And at $800, it lasts almost a decade. Few laptops boast that kind of longevity.
@@BubbaOfTheZew all youtube tech reviewers are the same. Create a video that questions Apple motives just to rack up the views.
@@BubbaOfTheZewOmg thank you! Lol it's kinda frustrating when almost every tech reviewer is essentially like oh I can't edit videos exactly how I like on this machine therefore it's bad.
@@BubbaOfTheZew Well why doesn't apple just turn the Mac into a convertible and offer a smaller version. It would still have all the functionality and be more practical.
Most of the people in my course have convertibles.
I feel like apple is purposely not going that route so people who are stuck in their eco system have to buy 2 seperate products.
Me watching this on my iPad Pro
me watching this on my ipad air 5th gen
Me watching this on my iPad Air 4
Same
Same!
Me on my air 4
Remember guys!! Apple not gonna listening to the feedback 😂😂
And this is the result
They don’t care, as long as they make money they are happy
As someone who owns an iPad, I can only recommend it if you’re a student who wants to take handwritten digital notes, or a creative.
Ive been rocking the iPad Air 4 since it came out and it’s been so useful throughout college and currently uni. But only for taking and annotating notes.
Apart from this specific use case, I don’t see why you would buy an iPad instead of just getting a laptop.
Real Talk? Laptop I use for work, emails and studies. iPad? It’s my “getaway from laptop” device from work and studies
In the end, the iPad became a niche product, made for a really specific target. I pick mine for Camera Tethering in Shootings, color grading in davinci on the go and few times a replacement of my 16inc M1 pro in Davinci Projects when I should be on the Go. For the rest, it's hard to justify with phones already big, so... not a bright future
Drawing and doing art maybe?
Anyone who thinks the iPad is in dying or not needed doesn't know how many different use cases they are essential for: pilots, schools, registers, libraries, so many different things. Regardless of growth in sales, one has to acknowledge that many people who want an iPad don't need a new one for ages, they aren't like smart phones we get ever 2-3 years.
This is very true lol I always express how much more I enjoy my iPad over a laptop. Especially as an artist this thing is amazing and I’m glad it’ll last me for many years to come
This. I have a much much more expensive top shelf drawing tablets gathering dust because of how convenient, quality and irreplaceable the ipad is. Even my powerful laptop meant for animating is getting less and less use every day. And thats just art. There are so many carrers depending on the ipad
Those things you mention they need it for, is it worth $1500? For school and those other things u mentioned just get a laptop.
Every year UA-camrs say the iPad is dying. People buy iPads and use them forever. “What is it even for?” 🙄🙄🙄
Yeah they are not like phones where people upgrade them every year. They actually last 4+ years
I sometimes feel like they should just let you run MAC OS on the iPad Pro. They never will but, with the Magic Keyboard would make it more than capable.
I bought an iPad Air with Magic Keyboard and Pencil last year. I find myself using it for most of the things I used to grab my MacBook Air for. Now the Mac primarily gets used for a couple of apps that aren’t in the App Store.
I wouldn't even bother with the magic keyboard being an artist... the pencil would be more accurate than the trackpad on a 13" iPad Pro KB. I use a macbook pro 14" with a pen tablet and a pen works fine in MacOS Ui as a pointing device, second to that of an art tool... I wouldnt like to run macOS on anything smaller than 13" though.
Or made a convertible macbook
Everything was smart device mode when 2014 ended. What a good memories
Everything is AI now, lmao
Austin you have to see from the average consumer perspective… not everyone wants the iPad to be running applications on the same level as MacOS. Some of us just prefer the larger form factor, better display/battery life & the needed option to add a keyboard *when needed*
It’s definitely a software problem.
I do video editing, CAD, and graphic design. The iPad has the power to do all of that, easily; and the touch screen honestly makes it perfect for certain things I do.
BUT the software is lacking, it’s incredibly limiting. It’s like putting a hellcrate engine into a Prius; yeah you have the power, but you don’t have the transmission, drivetrain, or suspension needed to take full use of your motor(M3).
I tried to get by with my iPad Pro for years. Ended up finally selling it and going to a MacBook Pro. I still miss my iPad for certain things, especially things that the touch screen made super easy to do.
I’m hoping Apple finally just merges MacOS and iPad OS closer together. If they do, I’d probably keep my MacBook and buy a new iPad Pro as well. But if the next iPads are just hardware upgrades(screen, camera, etc.) and not software; then I won’t be getting one.
Apple either needs to make the iPad Pros software pro level, or just stop producing them.
I agree with you. I would be all over the iPad Pro if it had Mac OS. I had the 11 inch iPad Pro and it was great but software limited.
also like the macbook even if they fix the UI all its good for is graphic design i cant see any other workflows where it could be of use
@@dijital4801video editing, CAD, etc. work pretty well on Mac.
IMO I do prefer CAD work on Windows(because that’s what I’m used to), but it works pretty smooth on the Mac. Along with the iCloud Drive/Files, I can open my drawings anywhere without having to use Dropbox or Microsoft’s onedrive(which I hate).
Macs are good for some and not good for others. Mac’s run most workflows very well, it mostly just depends on if you can adapt to the different hot keys and UI.
I can’t agree more. I have an iPad Air 5 and I feel like it had potential but it was wasted badly. Sometimes it’s frustrating to use, but most of the time it’s fast and does things perfectly. I wish I had more freedom for apps and file managment
Yes. I have an iPad 9th gen. And while I do love it. It is so limiting. It really just is a glorified movie player. Best use case I have for it because it is not good for much else. It can do so much more if allowed! I also used it in side car and that was nice. But it really just is a tiny monitor. Not any actual use that pushes the hardware. These devices have way more than enough power to do so much more than we are lead on to believe! If the devices just let us do more they would have a real daily use for so many people.
This can be said for any kind of tablets out there, but there will always be a market for handheld large screens for entertainment and light productivity. It's a totally different category with laptops.
Especially for businesses who use it for the cash register, or restaurants using it as a ordering system
They need to reduce the line and remarket each iPad.
Keep the iPad mini, iPad and iPad Pro. Create a larger sized iPad model and reduce the pro 11 inch pricing.
Then they need to rebrand the mini for kids and/or users who want need to write down notes, calendar updates and are always on the go (more “pocketable”)
iPad for students, teachers, realtors, on the job types (project managers)
The iPad Pro for graphic designers, web UI creators, content creators on UA-cam but pull out of it being for super users in business (not for excel please!). It could be a nice secondary piece for executives for presentations
you hit the nail right on the head 👍
I liked their old system of a 2x2 grid for their Macs. PowerBook, iBook, Powermac, and iMac. They made it a... 3x2 system later with the ipad air and Mac mini but that's when it got complicated. Perhaps ipad pro, ipad, ipad mini, 2 screen sizes for the first two... 5 models!
Nailed it! 🎯
I seriously regret buying the M1 iPad Pro in 2021. There is no single reason for it to be so powerful. I could have just gotten the iPad Pro 2018 used and safed half the money or just wait a bit longer and get a MacBook. Now I'm have a usless machine, that's more powerful than my iMac but can't do shit.
You will get more years of service out of it though.
The pro 2018 will be lagging with an a12x chip. M1 is such a jump that it will last you way longer
This is on me, because I knew all this before buying it, but I also regret the purchase a bit. I like the hardware - except for the front camera placement. I do use it frequently for art... and youtube, however I probably would've been equally well served if I had waited for an m1 air.
I frequently wish there was a way to use OSX (that isn't side loading UTM and emulating an older version), as it would make it significantly more useful to me, there's so much power that's just left on the table outside a small handful of apps.
My 2015 1st gen 12.9 iPad Pro is still doing fine for sketching and UA-cam vids, so you'll get years of use out of that later gen...
As an educator, Ipads have been my daily driver - perfect for lesson plan and simple enough for my students to use.
When teaching, walking around with it and having my notes/ apps on the go has been a game changer
Watching this on my ipad
Ditto
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Me too
as an artist, the ipad and apple pencil is basically the one apple product that matters that i would kill for
beyond art, is my go to ebook, netflix, comic reading platform of choice over my PC and Phone anyday
literally same. it’s sooo good for art and of course media consumption which was it was literally initially intended for. nobody wanted to watch videos on a 3.5 inch display and still a 5 inch-6.5 inch screens are still not big enough for comfortable watching/ work
As an artist myself, ipads are the best suitable devices for making artworks. It’s just much better than making art through a mouse or with a tiny unbearable screen that are phones.
I also use my ipad pro 12.9 1st gen 2015 for art and consumption... Reading ebooks is so much better on an e-ink device by miles though..... But obviously not comics.
I’m late to this video, but my thought process as the same as yours. Problem for Apple is, the 2018 pro was so future-proof that it’s been hard to justify upgrading all these years since. Like, even now if mine gets laggy I could probably just get an M1 refurbished which had plenty of RAM for my needs
yeah those prices and anti repairability is exactly why i stay away from apple at all costs now a days.
anti consumer in general
Meanwhile I still have my iPad Pro from 2015 and it’s working just fine. What’s is there for me to repair? I got the screen replaced already.
Overpriced disposable electronics.
@@user-if8tg1or7mI got a 7th gen iPad that's a still going strong. What so, "disposable", about them?
@@JJohnson313At least those screens were easier to replace.
I feel like if Apple made the iPad a genuine pc replacement it would put both the iPad and the Macs in a really weird place. Fewer people would want the MacBook but at the same time Apple would have to charge more for the iPad making it a toss up as to which a consumer should buy. Not great for marketing especially with the way Apple tends to line up their products.
This is exactly why they won't do it
They used to have the idea of self cannibalization. Whatever product they have, they replace it with something revolutionary, even if it destroyed their previous industry. iPod mini to iPod nano, iPod to iPhone, iPad cutting into their laptop market, but now many exist at the same time with obvious overlaps.
Nowadays, iPads are using as a gaming device for playing Pubg mobile, Cod
rhythm games too; also art.
1100 dollars for an ipad is insane idk why you wouldn’t just get a mac
@@SoosRamirez1mac to play mobile games 😅
I used mine for fortnite and other games
But apple need to ban epic 😪
And allow music apps like Spotify to use link to pay outside the app store
@@Kolex06 why would I want to pay 1100 dollars to play pubg mobile and cod mobile
Just put macOS on the iPad so it’s like a surface pro. Apple could even put macOS on only the pro models which would be a very Apple thing to do.
It would make sense, with the pencil making an excellent pointing device on 13"+ devices with macOS. I use a pen tablet with my 14" MacBook Pro and the UX is fine with the pen so it's a no brainer IMO. Smaller devices can keep iPadOS and that walled garden for all I care...
I used the iPad for all of my daily things. Primarily for reading and watching all videos and movies
Paperlike turns your screen into sandpaper for styluses.
Lol, it’s good though
I got my iPad Pro 2 in 2017 as a requirement for vet school (used one of the apps to proctor tests). That plus the Apple pencil honestly was a fantastic combination for note taking, looking things up, and storage for a ton of textbooks. My entire veterinary career is on my iPad plus most of my library, and I still use it to this day as a resource since it’s a convenient all-in-one place for all of that stuff. It’s a bit of a niche use, but for students and especially professional students I highly recommend it.
If you have a use the iPad can be on of the best tools, otherwise it's just a bigger screen consumption device. It's the same with a surface of you don't have a specific task or work flow in mind your likely better off with something else.
Apple didn’t release any new iPads in 2023 and it still sold 26 billion dollars worth of iPads in 2023 without trying. I think the iPad will be just fine.
26 billion AHAHAHAHAHA kid, you don't have any idea of what you are talking.
@@MallocFree90 Last quarter alone iPad accounted for 7 billion in revenue. I get it, reading is hard and math is even harder, but it’s right there on Apple’s Investor page.
Malloc is 12, no one calls people "kid" unless they're an iPad kid themselves.
I dislike Apple, but the iPad will be fine.
The day the iPad goes is the day PlayStation goes.
@@BlueEyedVibeChecker PlayStation isn't nearly as immovable as Apple. I get what you're saying but the new CEO is making big changes for a reason. Their cocky attitude and general arrogance against legality and competition wasn't a good look and he knows it
I'm a math teacher, and I LOVE my iPad. I present my notes/lessons straight from the ipad onto on the projector wirelessly. Students also enjoy using it to present their work to the class!
I run my entire business from my iPad Pro 11”. It’s easier to travel with than a MacBook, and does everything I need. Plus when I’m traveling I have a large screen for media consumption plus tons of apps.
Also I find this video to be a bit disingenuous, it’s really not hard to figure out what you need and the accessories that go with it.
Yeah my ipad air 2020 is still going strong and can still play genshin, although i need to delete everything just to play it lol. 64gb is just really pathetic, it shoud be at least 256gb minimun.
He's speaking from a 2024 perspective. The ipads arent bad, he says that several times. The older ones are all you need.
The comparison function apple has definitely helps on their website, but it is annoying that the Air, the 10th Gen and the 11 inch pro all need to be compared at once to effectively differentiate.
M1, no m1; speaker count, storage limit, screen type, promotion or not, pencil 2 charging, stage display or not, camera differences or not, microphone versions, ram amount. The delineation is difficult for most people, which aren't watching channels like these
@@StockyDT
It's not difficult at all, it's very easy to look at and compare. The problem is people are too lazy to do the research, but it's really not hard. If my non-techie wife can figure out so can anyone else. Stop making it sound more complicated than it really is. That's the bigger problem, "tech people" want to over complicate crap when it doesn't have to be. All that stuff you listed off is easy to find. The website lets you compare 3 models at once, and breaks everything down.
Also if you're near a store you can go in and ask and they are super helpful.
I use my 2020 iPad Pro on the daily for casual use. DuoLingo, Fallout Shelter, T212... my poor 2021 MBP hardly gets switch on these days! 😅
My sister have an Ipad Air 5 (M1 model) and it just such a bang for buck for her work as PRO artist, any hardware update needs to be massive to be worthy of upgrade
Tim Cook listen up:
> One universal Apple Pencil that’s miles cheaper than the current one.
> offer some better carrying cases.
> Please fix the pricing cuz right now MacBooks just makes more sense.
Between the crazy mystery techs and unboxings, video essays like these are real standouts. Never stop making these Austin!
the ipad is good for designing as a graphics designer
The “messaging is unclear”? As someone who just released music made entirely on the iPad Pro, currently using it to chat with a friend who is at work drawing on Procreate during her downtime, and whose educator friends all use the regular iPad for work, it’s perfectly clear to us all. With all due respect to video creators, not everyone lives on UA-cam.
They just need to be more affordable. Especially the accessories. The problem with the affordable model is they don't give you enough storage to do anything. If I could get an iPad with a magic keyboard, a usbc port, and a pencil w/ a reasonable amount of storage (256gig+> with the rest of the hardware and configuration that was somewhat modern and the apps all ran pretty smooth. If I can get that whole package for 500 bucks it would be gold.
The only reason I want one is to draw on it, but that plan always gets derailed when I think about how little I actually draw.
for artists and animators iPad is still a very valid use case. Especially 2d animators for example anime and such. My bro is a game designer and iPad is a must for him.
That's wierd, I've been in the games industry 20+ years and all the games designers i knew of would write in MS word, copy and paste from other game screens and you'd be lucky if they wire framed up a meta flow...laughs....😂
The lineup is a mess. They should just have the mini, the ipad and the pro. Each one size and one pencil that supports them all. Thats it. No Air. No 11” pro and 12.5” pro and not 3 versions of the pencil.
Lol my 2017 10.5in iPad pro is still killing it. Bought it refurbished off amazon in 2018 to take notes for school. And even then the camera was good enough to take clear photos of the whiteboard from pretty far back. It's still an amazing secondary PC for taking notes, quick sketches / ideas, and quick photo edits with snapseed. For $500 or less, its totally worth it for me
A lot of my classmates really liked using the ipqd for school. They scanned worksheets we got and worked on them digitally and took all of their notes that way too. I never was intrigued enough to buy one myself, but i feel like this makes a compelling usecase. Keep in mind that they used ipads in german school that lack any internet infrastructure avaliable for the students.
Still using my 2018 iPad Pro 11” and there has been nothing noteworthy to upgrade to.
I have never understood a tablet. I have a laptop and cell phone. My employer provides me with a top level iPad Pro with magic keyboard and all I do with is type notes and watch workout videos.
I have no idea how anyone accomplishes real professional work on one.
As someone who frequents tattoo conventions, I have never once thought the iPad is dying. At my last convention I don't think I saw a single artist without an iPad Pro.
Oh, yeah, they only sold 135 million iPads in 2023. Such a tiny number. It's really in trouble. Have you had brain damage? Are you drinking the koolaid? Obviously a lot of people bought iPads. I didn't buy one because the one I have from 2020 is still working great and I use it more than any other computer. I definitely use it more than my phone because it has a bigger screen. The phone screen is just too tiny to do much of anything useful on. I read, browse the web, watch movies, TV and videos, play games, do my banking, pay bills, read and send emails. Just about anything you can do on a laptop.
I am a Comp. Sci. student that uses an iPad Air more than my actual laptop. When it comes to taking notes, there is just nothing that compares. Typing on a laptop to take notes, I find myself spending too much time trying to format my notes in a way that makes sense and math notes are almost impossible. Paper notes are good, but it is harder to erase, there is no lasso tool, there is no copy paste, there is no document search (I use good notes which can search handwritten notes), and the list goes on. I also use my iPad for most of my homework too. You say that the lines are blurry, but I don’t think they are. The iPad is great at taking notes, drawing, practicing handwriting (my cursive has gotten a lot better since getting my iPad), watching movies (my friends and I have a movie night on Thursdays and the iPad is the easiest thing to plug into a TV and watch something on Disney Plus), playing games (I played a couple of games on the Apple Arcade Trial and it was great for that). Those things are just better on iPad than on your phone or a laptop. Sure, it isn’t great at editing videos, but neither is your phone. And yeah, it is not always the quick and easy way to do things like your phone, but neither is a laptop. The iPad is its own thing, but you are apparently not in the targeted audience.
Long story short, I completely disagree with you. You are expecting the iPad to be a laptop, but it’s not. It isn’t for everyone, but if you make something for everyone, you make it for no one.
My 2020 iPad Air has been a huge tool for my university studies in atmospheric science. It does not replace a laptop when Excel or Python have to be used, but other than that it has virtually replaced all my notebooks but the calculus one, plus has helped to arrange expositions, movies, drawings and posters way faster than other methods. Being able to watch movies and play games like Genshin on the go is the plus for me. I’d say if you are a student is well worth it, still it won’t replace your computer.
To save iPad, simple: either having a iPad Fold, or have it with Mac OS.
Finally, he's back to normal, no longer reusing old video ideas.
My 2021 iPad Pro is still running like the day I bought it. Use it every day for work emails and I’ve even been using Logic Pro on it when I’m away from my home studio. It’s by far my favorite apple product.
As a project manager, I frequently use my iPad Pro 12 over a traditional computer due to the nature of my work, which requires constant mobility. Whether I'm on-site reviewing blueprints, taking measurements, examining CAD designs, training staff, overseeing production, or generating reports, the convenience and portability of the iPad-enhanced by the addition of a keyboard folio-prove invaluable. It's an ideal device for professionals who need full computing capabilities with the added flexibility to move around easily compared to using a laptop. I hope to see a new generation soon!
If they could just put a full touch version of MacOS on the iPad it would be perfect. Still have the iPadOS there as like a main overlay, but then have an option to switch to MacOS mode. MacOS can already run IOS apps (since its basicly the same OS), and its "LaunchPad" is essentially a toned down IOS interface. Also if you may have noticed, several of the Macs features have been changed to look more IOS-ish over the past few year, so this may be something they have had in mind for a long time. Having the iPads run MacOS with just a IOS overlay that you could switch between, or "unlock" with their keyboard attachment feels like it just makes a lot of sense. It would be like Windows 8 was trying to be, but not crap lol.
Yep, Just make a 2 in 1 and call it a day apple! 😂
As an artist, I bought an iPad Pro thinking that I could use my artistic apps and do my college work, which was a HUGE mistake. You cannot do ANYTHING on these devices, and third party support is close to none. Can’t run steam, can’t run blender, can’t run any of the useful apps that would work on a laptop priced the same. I recently built my own PC for below the price of my iPad and I can finally do my designing in peace
The thing is: what does the iPad do better than a MacBook?
I can only think of it for written notes, even for drawing the experience isn't the best.
Reading in bed. It's easier to read in bed with an iPad.
@@BSFreeWitchcraft may as well read a book or use an i ink tablet if youre in bed
@@BSFreeWitchcraft it's a bit too heavy for that, I prefer doing that on the phone, same goes for videos (I have the 12.9 iPad for reference)
@@dijital4801 But I can also have music playing, or a youtube video. And I read comics too, which aren't as good on e ink.
@@F.ELEVEN I mean, I'm using an iPad mini -- I used to use a 10 inch iPad, but yeah -- 12 inch would be too big for that.
Still a giant phone
I when I was in school we used ipads for everything, homework, reading, and testing. Garageband is so much fun on them and watching UA-cam on a big screen in bed, AMAZING! Eventually I'll get another one but I wanna see what they are doing with ipad first before I make my move.
Bought a 7th gen when it was super discounted along with a pencil, and it was perfect for me for school. The iPad Pro on the other hand will never be a standalone device because of crippling software, and unlike chromebooks, they’re so expensive that you have to buy one as a standalone device. Unless if Apple brings macOS to iPads like a Microsoft surface, which I highly doubt Apple will do
iPad needs to run OS X, iPadOS isn’t really used anymore
agreed, a macOS capable device in an iPad form factor is something I would consider. ditched iPadOS and iOS years ago.
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The iPad shines brightest in the hands of a student or a creative. I’m typing this on my 2018 iPad Pro, and I have my entire math degree in my Notability app. Countless amounts of handwritten notes, using it every single day for lecture notes, labs, submitting assignments, and multitasking. Especially with Stage Manager now, and a good keyboard, the iPad was perfect for my needs. If I was a Computer Science major, perhaps a Macbook would have been better. But if you are someone who thrives on handwriting notes, drawing, or marking up PDFs while still needing normal computer functionality, the iPad Pro is about as good as it gets.
My 2018 iPad Pro is still running strong to this day. I was never compelled to upgrade to the M-series iPad as I feel like it is being held back by the iPadOS.
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It became an older person device or a kid device. Maybe a good vacation device but a MacBook just makes so much more sense for most people with an iPhone. You have everything. It’s also a lot easier to do stuff on a phone with your thumb quickly and move easily. Moving with your device is important unless you only sit down all the time. And the Macbook Air keyboard with trackpad is so good.
Its just a casual device good to watch movies, read and annotate pdfs books news, casually browse through internet.
I don't have it yet, am planning to buy. But I can imagine how this could be easily the most used device in my hands.
I think the thing that gets me messed up is literally the mouse experience with the circle and all that. I am so close to being able to use it as my only device but the mouse and a couple of things like screen sharing in video calls etc. kind of block that reality… I do use my iPad a ton though
I use my iPad as my main non-work computing device. I have a desktop PC I use for work but basically everything else I do on my iPad, in vertical orientation nonetheless. I only ever use my phone when I'm outside the house, which isn’t that often because I work from home.
I had an m1 MacBook Air and it was my I don’t want to sit at my desk device, I traded that in and got an 11 inch m2 iPad Pro, and I don’t regret it at all, it does everything I would ever want from an I don’t want to sit at my desk device and my main draw to the pro over anything was the 120hz display
I use my iPad for taking notes at university and searching the web or reading emails, because it’s easier on the eyes than on my smaller phone‘s screen. But it could never replace my computer.
As an artist who uses an iPad Pro for illustrating, I cannot for the life of me understand someone who doesn't draw as a hobby owning an Apple Pencil.
Like, when you close Procreate or CSP or whatever drawing software you use, that Pencil loses like 90% of it's usefulness, and almost borders on being a hindrance to navigate with. Steve Jobs was right.
Things i want:
-Better files system
-Connection to apple watch!!
-Convenient accessories that support creative and artistic uses
- functional camera in landscape mode
- a calculator 🤯
-lighter
in 2020 I bought a secong hand iPad, and I basically used it for enterteinment purposes: streaming, gaming and reading, basically. My GF asked me if he can borrowed it for her masters studies and I just gave it to her. Last year I bought a brand new iPad Air 5th Gen to basically do the same stuff but with the added bonus of having an apple pencil I started using it for image editing and photoshop. That's it. I really don't use it for anything else, I do a little bit of work but I do use my PC for work, and that's it. Is a little comfort tablet to me, and often use it as a some form of "replacement" of an Amazon Alexa, because I can bring it to any room in the house. I've seen some people use it as a carplay for their cars that doesn't have it so, that would be my next use for it.
I had an iPad as a kid, loved it but quit using it after a few years. I had forgotten how useful they are for media consumption, document reading, even the Apple Pencil is far more useful than I ever realized. It’s most certainly a luxury and not necessary but man I love mine.
There are a few reasons, prior to MB’s getting the same Mini LED displays, so the 12.9” iPad had a Mini LED display, 120HZ, touch input, pencil support, USB-C, Magic Keyboard and LTE cellular. My iPad Pro gets me by and has replaced my MacBook Air a couple years ago.
I agree, no device can do everything, I have my pc (and a laptop) at home for specific tasks, but for work - I'm a musician I carry my ipad with me ALL the time.
If the iPad Pro could have the option of running true Mac OS and essentially added as a MacBook option and keeping a standalone iPad as primarily a tablet media consumption device. It would fix a lot
Iv got a pro 11 2nd gen and I use it for photo editing and notes for uni. Still is more than powerful enough without a M series chip.
I use a MacBook for school, but I don't like bringing my laptop everywhere especially when I go on vacation during the school year so I'm getting an iPad for that (just an old one though), it's good for travelling and the days where I do not want to bring my laptop to school.
I am a musician and I use the iPad every single day for reading sheet music or composing. It's actually a very practical device for musicians. I'm so used to it, I'm not sure what I'd do without it
Still have my iPad Pro 12.9 2nd Gen and it runs great. My son uses it for drawing with the 1st Apple Pencil, works great. They need to open iPad OS to run full Mac OS apps.
I daily run an iPad mini 1 jailbroken and I love and hate how it can do about 60-70% of what new iPads can do. It still works great for notetaking and pdf editing. I even use it as my second display for my laptop. All this functionality with 512mb of ram. I can't imagine what the newer iPads can do if Apple added more features to iPadOS.
I haven’t had a computer in years now. Been more than happy with my 2nd incarnation of the 12.9 iPad Pro. I’m probably going to upgrade it soon but I’m still have no any inclination to get a Mac, windows or Linux device
With the creation of affinity designer iPad no more laptop. The iPad mini 6 runs circles around intel based laptops,I also replaced my phone with the mini and SE combined. If need a bigger screen I pulled out my old cinema screen and no bands on the sides!
The latest iPad Mini is my favorite iPad. Perfect for taking notes using the apple pencil or consuming media on a plane. I've had both the 11in and 12.9in Pro models but at the end of the day the OS limited me from a productivity perspective.
I use my 12.9 Pro M2 for work during the day, gaming during the night (CODM). It’s my main source of reading news (Apple News+), video consumption and business apps. Well worth the $1,500 for my needs.
When I was a student. I used the IPad Pro. I loved having all my PDF Books and being able to write notes directly on the notes. Also having all my PowerPoint lectures directly on my hand and not having to write major notes. As a student I think an iPad is essential.
I'm switching to Apple for now to escape Samsung, Android and just to try something different. I went with the SE 3 purely for price (50 bucks for the phone, another 30 to pay for the service for a month and a 30 day wait to SIM unlock it for my normal carrier) and a 9th gen iPad along with an old Series 5 watch I bought for another 50. It's been a decent experience so far.
My first Ipad was the 12.9" 128GB, iPad Pro, which I bought in 2017 for $529.92 and lasted me till December 2023. When I began looking at getting a new iPad, the price of the 12.9" ipad Pro was what made me consider trying a smaller more affordable 3rd Gen 11" 128GB iPad PRo, which I bought last Christmas for $700 dollars. I was unsure of the size because I am an artist and I was not sure if it would be enough screen realesate for my work (it is). I have really loved the smaller form factor of the 11" and the magnetic apple pencil is so convenient. I use my device mosly for doing my art in Procreate, content concumption, and some light gaming. To be honest, if I was not an artist I would definately go with the much cheeper ipad or an android tablet.
For Ipad pro i think even as jank as just provide the option to boot into ipad os or mac os would solve half of the problem, as long as it runs stable enough and don't crash too often
I love my ipad for inbetween things I don't wanna get my laptop out for or would like more screen size than my phone like reading or taking notes in work meetings. Don't know that I could justify it at the prices of the ipad though, i lucked up and traded an old macbook for an ipad pro when i was upgrading to the silicon model
Using a Galaxy Tab and same problems exist definitely. Samsung tried to solve this with a psuedo-desktop environment with DeX but actually backtracked from that, too. And yesterday, I saw a Ryzen-powered Windows tablet (Minisforum V3) and it wasn't half bad. Microsoft's never-ending battle to optimize Windows for touchscreens has been annoying all of us with desktop PCs but it's actually solving a problem in that space. Windows 10X was for naught, but Microsoft's experience in that project enabled Win11 to become mature for both form factors.
After being able to cram huge x86 architecture APUs in devices like Steam Deck and Minisforum V3 and and simultaneously optimizing entire OSs for ARM architecture, enabling SoCs like M2 and Snapdragon X Elite to do desktop work in all kinds of chassis, now we have two different approaches to solve this problem. The only thing left to do is to break this Berlin wall of an OS requirement. Make the OS fit both form factors. The hardware allows it now.
When I got my first iPhone (2 I think) and iPods, I was thrilled. Same with the Bose speakers. Looking back, I feel very embarrased, I was so naive. I now know there are better products for far less, and how pointless showoff is, it was just filling up coffers of companies with me not getting any better products.
I've had a M1 11" iPad Pro since its release in 2021, upgraded from the Air 3. I use mine with the Logitech Folio case, which is fantastic, and I love using the tablet for media consumption, editing photos, and taking notes in class. Also is a very nice secondary display with Sidecar for my Mac on the go. As much as I love it though, especially at its price, I would find it difficult to justify the purchase for most people. Even for me, I still very much need a MacBook for a lot of what I do and I ultimately really don't need to have an iPad. Especially one this expensive. Huge part of the reason I love it so much is I am a tech enthusiast and it's a fun toy, plus I can afford to have one.
I don't know about anyone else, but with upgrades coming next month I really don't feel the need or desire to upgrade. The better display would be nice, but I never do anything that would take advantage of a screen that's better for HDR. Also barely use the internal camera for video calls. Especially when you consider how ridiculously smooth the M1 runs, an upgrade just doesn't make sense.
Mine was a game changer for on site client work. The ability to take notes on the fly and mark up PFS, transfer them to Evernote and zap it to my workstation is indispensable. It’ll never replace my laptop, but I don’t want it to.
Bingo! It's a tool to be used alongside other things. I'd bet using a laptop in the same way you use the iPad would be a real pain.
The lower end iPads are good for two things imo. Media consumption and a computer on the go.
For media consumption, phone screens are too small to enjoy a movie on a flight for example. As to computer on the go, if you are walking a warehouse doing an inventory, pulling an iPad out to make notes on what you have on each shelf works well.
There are a lot of things they're suited for, just respect they exist for when you need a cross between size and computing power and not something that fits better on one end or the other.
I personally use an iPad pro (10.5 inch) to watch youtube, tv shows, movies, play some games with a bigger screen (ok, it's only mario kart tour), and some video chatting (I take private trumpet lessons, and an ipad is so much easier to use for that than a laptop, or at least one that can't fold all the way back), all, aside from the video chatting, in bed.. If I could, I would absolutely switch to an android tablet, because android is just better than ios, and I might even use that a lot more than I currently do with my ipad. Before I got my own cell phone, I used my ipad for everything (except for when I was at my windows computer).
iPads are actually pretty useful, when we read on the bed when about to nap or going to sleep, playing all Games on Ultra Graphics, Great Entertainment device for Movies, boomerang, mousepad, notebook, 3D/2D Drawing, Rendering, Sculpting, cutting onion on it, Bullet Shield, Self Defence Metal and a great Handheld Fan.
as an avid tablet user, this topic is a surprise for me 😅 since i bought my first ipad, i could not imagine life without it- work productivity, light gaming, entertainment stuff, and doing art as hobby with the pencil. i prefer smaller phones, so reading emails and work files off of it is not very convenient. i still don’t think ipad is a “replacement” for laptops, but i’ve been surviving with just my ipad and a desktop. so one can make do. the only big fuss i have about ipads is that they still release 64gb version of the thing😅
I have a 2018 1tb iPad Pro and no reason to upgrade. Software definitely holds it back
I love my iPad Pro. I use it for UA-cam, reading, note taking and digital drawing. It was expensive but totally worth it to me.
I own a 10th Gen iPad, I was actually gonna buy an iPad Mini due to assumption being cheaper so bought the 10th Gen for the bigger screen and reading my textbooks for my studies, emails, reading articles on the web, newsites. Love it, I don’t have any buyers remorse owning it, I use it daily. If it wasn’t for it I wouldn’t be thinking of upgrading to an iPad Pro in the next 3-4 years.
I’ve managed to craft an entire music career recording on my iPad and now having the ability to use Logic Pro on it it makes it so much better!!! Personally I prefer it to a computer for music creation and stuff like that