Tillotson 212 unboxing and total governor removal/beast!
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Tillotson 212 unboxing and total governor removal
Unboxed the Tillotson 212 and removed the internal and external governor.
Used a 1/4-20 bolt to plug the holes after removing the hardware.
Looking at the differences between the Tillotson and the Predator 212.
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You can also just take the crankshaft out and remove the gear on the crankshaft.
I use my deep freeze too when my work bench is full. I put scrap cardboard on it. My wife would kill me if I scratched the top of the freezer. lol. Good video, thanks.
Thanks, lol. Mine is already scratched.
Hey do you think this engine would be good for a beginner or should I go with a more low power engine
What are the sizes of screws you used to plug up the 2 holes? Thank you. Great video..
I used a 1/4-20 bolt. If you can get one with self-tapping threads it even makes it easier.
@@Black66 thank you!
Been a big fan of yours man! Was wondering if the 252 rattlesnake cam would be an upgrade in a tilly 212 along with an 8 degree keyway, mv22 ,mikuni, and header pipe over the stock cam while i have it apart to take out the governor??
Thanks! Yes, a 252 cam would be an upgrade. I measured the cam that cam out of the Tillotson 212 and it doesn't have any more lift than a stock Predator.
@@Black66 Awesome!! Thanks dude!! Keep the great vids coming! My young boys and i always tune in to learn more, and get to see the minis go 70+ mph haha!!
Take a drink every time he refers to little parts on a little engine as a “Beast”
Yes, it worked ! I got you to comment 😀
I can't seem to find a video anywhere on keeping the electric start and upgrading to the bullet flywheel made for electric start on the tilly 212's
Use a billet flywheel and use this lighting system. It last for days without a charge! ua-cam.com/video/75arrzEwOvc/v-deo.html
Can you do a vid on how to connect the wires to start it with the key
Awesome video but audio cut out for most of the video.
yeah its an old video, I need to redo it. . i have quite a few more newer governor removal videos on the channel. ua-cam.com/video/CK4p-iYTwFg/v-deo.html
Good video, I am working on an ATV that the engine blew up and I want to switch that rusted 150cc engine to a 212 predator/tillotson (or see if I can find a higher output) and I'm looking just to make it work and not burn rubbers on it. You think a 212 tillotson would do?
Ya, it would be awesome on there !
With no audio on most of this I don’t know but I hope you cleaned that out before putting it back together.
Check out the Doodlebug playlist. This engine is alive and well two years later with many videos and part swaps . Thanks for watching!
the throttle linkage on this motor is so janky ,, there is really no spring pulling the carb closed. there is one spring that pulls is mostly closed. i've never seen such a crazy linkage setup before. anyone have any great mods to deal with this?
Yes , ua-cam.com/video/CK4p-iYTwFg/v-deo.html
@@Black66 i guess im gonna have to buy a torque wrench, 21 mm socket, 2 half inch 1/4 20 with copper washers, lol
I take a drink everytime you say beast... I wasted.
Cause it’s a beast!!!
😂
Actually, it was a beast, but then I added this cam that I don't like too much, so now it's not such a beast anymore. I might have to change it out.
@@Black66 which cam sucks?
@@GPMAX01 There all good. The 265 is the best. That is my favorite drop-in cam so far.
Stock valves springs with governor Delete? Sounds great
The Tillotson comes with 18lb springs! Thanks for watching and check out the playlist for more combos with this engine.
@@Black66 is it worth getting better ones
I thought you were going to leave that gov gear washer in the engine,...wheeew !!!
No, it’s all cleaned out
Why do you have to take the coil off?
To show how to set the coil gap. 👍😀
Thanks for watching!
Took all the governor on that Tilly but what do you do for throttle when you take that out going to use it as a mud motor
Any suggestions. I have same engine and decided to upgrade to juggernaut and mikuni carb. Engine ran for about 30 seconds then locked up. Have no idea what to do next? Any suggestions for unlocking engine.
What size is the driver nut bit peace? you used for the flywheel because my crow bar is not doing it😂
So does the governor come installed on the engine when you get it?
Yes
I need to get me one of those.
Ya, get one
Not as simple as that they never have them you can try
I jus bought one 6 days ago
What rpm is a stock tillotson 212e governed at from the factory? Can't find this info anywhere.
Where can I get a 212 hemi predator I live in Cali and I want to get my hands on one any ideas on where I can pick one up
I have 212 tilly with go power sports stage 1 kit.(header pipe, filter and adapter, larger jet). If i delete governor will the flywheel hold up? Will i see any gains?
Recently been debating heavy on if I should get a predator 212 or the Tilly. I’m not really looking to abuse the engines just wanna know which would you truly recommend as a first engine I really like the vids you do and few people on here I’d trust with any advice on it?
Thanks! A Predator is just fine . They are durable enough and you can do a lot to them . A Tilley is really good to , especially if your gonna do a radical build . The blocks are strong . I would just grab a Predator if I was going to do a basic build or even leave stock .The good thing about a Predator is if it blows up its cheap enough to replace .
@@Black66 thank you so much for the feedback ! Just one more thing if I may... what if I’m trying to get good performance with just the carb and exhaust set up?
@@xchoatic_venomx744 Adding both will improve performance
@@Black66 thank you once again truly I’m probably gonna go with the tilly !
@@xchoatic_venomx744 Good engine , especially if you are going to end up modifying it later , and you not so worried about the price .
Were due you get the bolts to put in the plugs
Any good hardware store with a bolt bin.
Did you upgrade the flywheel?
I added a billet flywheel in later videos.
god only know i have so many questions for you right now mr black66
I have two Tillotson 212's in two identical go karts. Both have stage one kits with governor intact but zip tied. Kart #1 will hit 5000+rpm without a governor surge. More so I ran out of pedal. Kart #2 will governor surge at approx 46-4700rpm. Kart#1 has been rolled and at one time I had to put pushrod back under rocker after it rolled. It runs like a scalded dog but for some reason it's identical twin seems to be lacking. Any thoughts or suggestions?
That governor is still having some effect on the throttle, obviously . How about totally disconnecting the connection between the governor arm and the throttle linkage. I had governor surge on mine with the zip tie trick, until I totally removed the linkage that connects the throttle to the governor arm. I ran the cable direct to the carb. After I did that the engine ran like kart 1. It would rev with no surge.
@@Black66I may try that! I think the governor deletes and mikuni carbs are gonna be coming soon
@@igokarts4510 The VM22 will wake those tilly's up even more. Easy carb to tune too
@@Black66 I've got a resto/mod kart I'm currently doing. It's a predator 212 with a dynocams CL1 cam, header pipe. I just ordered a mikuni vm22 for it. Any suggestions on jetting or do you think I'll be ok stock?
@@igokarts4510 I would start out with a 115 or a 120 jet . The stock jet is usually to small
is there another way to get that top pin out without cutting it? for the governor removal
I followed the steps and I have a vm22 carb but it won’t start and there’s gas coming out of the air filter PLEASE HELP!!
What are the torque specs on the bolts for reassembly?
All the specs are on the Tillotson web site. Here is the link tillotson.ie/resources/
what size did you use for the spark plug ?
Just got one and did this and the engine won’t start, I’ve got a pull start and did this exactly step to step I do have the old carb on the engine with a staged exhaust. I did not take the coil next to the flywheel off because I don’t have the starter. Can anyone give me some help I have a flat slide Mikuni arriving soon just trying to get the engine started without it for now
What’s the top speed of it with the gov removed?
Check out the Tillotson 212 Doodlebug playlist. It shows many different combos with the Tillotson 212 ua-cam.com/video/Nov1xI0qPxo/v-deo.html
What does removing that do?
Would the engine internals hold up after I removed the governor in a tillotson 212
Mine has held up for a couple years now.
@@Black66 wow, that’s great is it stock?
@@omarbautista7104 I have a couple. The most recent is on the Mega Moto 212.
They are tuff engines,But there is no guarantee on any of this stuff. Yours might last five years and mine could blow up tomorrow, You never know.
Has it been tested yet on any of your toys?
Ya, I went out today with it .
I think it will really make your bike fly
Yes!! Thatd be awesome! Took my bike out after the storm yesterday and got it all muddy, fun times. Upgrade would be better lol.
The 2 bolts to plug top hole and governor whole what sizes do I need so I can pick them up at hardware store?
I used a 1/4-20 bolt. If you can get one with self-tapping threads it even makes it easier.
@@Black66 Go power sports sells them $1.49 each I got 2.
@@l.a.m7645 Good deal!
Do I need to use washers?
@@l.a.m7645 No, put a bolt in it and your good
so is it more torque or top end
I think it has both. That Tilley runs good
@@Black66 sounded like a drag bike good footy
@@SoLoCruizer They run by all the time
@@Black66 sweet man what's next mabey a lil chopper action
@@Black66 I'm sending that 12 tooth back it turned my bike into a flintstone mobile lol the old rusted five year old 11 tooth gets me going idk what rear sprocket would give me more torque on this lil 80cc what's the best combo
Can you put it in the Coleman
Ya, I might do that . Just not sure which one . The little one or the big one
@@Black66 do the cc100x one ,because I got a cc100x 😂
@@rico7844 Man I really do want to put it on the cc100x . That thing would fly !
@@Black66 are you going to some a video cause I’m thinking of a buying a tilotson
@@Black66 sorry to disturb you, but do you have any social media because I want to send you a video of my bike because im trying to start it up but idk what going on , I chang the motor to a new one,bought a mikuni carburetor,added some oil, there gas inside everything is good but idk what going on
Still don't want to over rev it
I am always trying to break this thing. No luck yet
Hey do you think this engine would be good for a beginner or should I go with a more low power engine
I think it would be a great engine for a beginner . Its a really good quality engine