They had a new roof donated to them by local companies and the guy who messed it up ended up facing a slew of charges, some not related to this particular roofing job. Justice was served.
Alvin Ritter you’re not wrong lol. My dad knows people and they did it for $800. Plus, they have over 10 years of experience. 😂 but we had to buy the materials. Still was cheap!
Word of mouth is everything. I don't even advertise any more as my work speaks for itself and gets jobs. If one soul is grateful for your work, it is a wonderful feeling and guys like this try and rob us all of that feeling.
does anyone know how to get ahold of these people! I'm a Roofer and have been Roofing for over 19 year's. I would like to help them if I can. I hate theifts! and people who don't know how to do there job! it gives real roofers a bad name thanks
I was thinking the same thing. I have held licenses in several states including Florida. I'm out of the business now pretty much retired with time on my hands.
I hate scammers that wreck family’s homes. If you get their job contact Lowe’s or Home Depot. They have community building money for these kind of projects. It’s a write off for them and they usually will supply volunteers to help.
+tripp. The length of service matters too. If a roofing company has been in business for 30 years and is family-owned and run, that will be a good sign. They tend to quote high so as not to subject customers to sticker shock.
@@theperfectionofbeauty1443 Idiots that don't do their research on a company before hiring them. This happens all the time. I just had a new roof and they were not in any hurry for their money since I have lived here a long time. I got a great company that did mine.
Bless her heart I own a roofing company I see this all the time I feel so bad for people Specially homeowners i start cry with them because they never get there money back and no they will never trust anyone one again
As awful this is, the responsibility is with us the homeowners to do our checks etc, never pay up front or all of the money until the job is finished as that should sound alarm bells...
I was hired to do a job by an investor, he asked me to give him a great price,I told him if he wanted a great price for his roof replacement I would have to use economy shingles that were a cheaper price and had no warranty, he agreed on the price and job, 2-1/2 yrs later I get a phone call in the early spring and his roof is leaking very badly,the ceilings are damaged and falling down,the shingles never sealed down properly in the warm weather and were defective, the place that sold them to me they have never had any problems out of their material,but insisted they had no warranty,It was a mistake buying them,I had to hire an attorney and also ended up paying the homeowner the money back he paid me,his insurance paid the damages.
My steps would have been: 1) find him 2) establish an airtight alibi 3) rent a backhoe for the weekend to "put in a coy pond" 4) tell the police you have no idea what happened to the guy, maybe he fled the state?
Should of asked for references and scouted out his work when spending that kind of coin, that's what I did when I hired a mason and he did a top notch job
As a 35 year roofer, it is still hard to believe the scab roofers out there. Consumers need to do thier home work when it comes to any constitution work. Check up on the company you plan to go with. A little home work will save you in the long run.
$11,000 seems a little high to me for a low-pitch, one-story roof, even if re-sheathing. If the soffits, facing boards and gutter were supposed to be included, that brings the $11,000 to "not enough". But unless that house has a LOT More roof that wasn't shown, the $20,00 to have it redone properly seems exorbitant.
I wonder if they have a gofund me acc I'd like to donate to fix their roof they should give up sueing that pos its not worth the time or money it breaks my heart to see this
Damian Martinez " it's not worth the time or money " ?? Did you not hear that the guy had an insurance policy that he'd just gotten the day before? ? They're liable for the repairs, now, they're more than likely out the lawyer monies, but they could find a lawyer cheaper than calling it all a loss and cutting another 20 grand check for repairs
rocket man if they go to court and win their case the POS will most likely not pay either way. The home owners might never see a dime. It's better if a GoFundMe is created to help them.
Guys please note that any legitimate contractor will never ask you for more than 10% up front they may ask for an In progress payment and a final. Never never give full or half of money upfront
Another scam people need to avoid. Those people who do rooftop coatings. They are an absolute rip-off and do nothing more than temporarily brighten up the color of your roof. Had a neighbor a few years ago who towed a little trailer with a sprayer attached. For 1,000 he would go on your roof and spray a coating of tar. He claimed it would penetrate the shingles and make them like new 😂😂😂. He said it would seal any leaks and give you at least another 10 years of life in your roof. My poor neighbor fell for his scam. Watching the guy work, he diluted the tar to almost water like. He sprayed a very thin coat that was running down the shingles. It was nothing more than a cheap krylon paint job 😂. The guy was even featured on scam alerts with the local news. He just suddenly packed up and moved out one weekend. Within six months, the pretty color faded away.
I view this situation as a prime opportunity to become known as an honest and good roofer. Come in and do the work for free, but do it right. Your name and company will be featured on the news. People will see you as a local hero and an honest roofer. You would get business all over the place. Also, this lady would get the roof she badly needs. Roofing material costs are not that bad. Most of the cost is the labor.
We got swindled by a company based out of fort Wayne. Luckily my husband made them fix the mistakes and refused to pay for stuff they claimed was done but wasn't. Was a bad experience but at least it wasn't a nightmare like this story.
My rule, you don't get one red cent till the job is completed and I'm satisfied. When you go to work, you clock in and don't get paid till its pay day. It is no different when you hire someone to do a job whatever it may be.
Phillip you should stick to watching south park, guys like this scum bag give contractors like me a bad name. What is the contractor supposed to buy all materials and pay for out of his own pocket, how is he gonna pay his workers? I certainly dont ask for the full amount; i asked for 50% down and once project is finished I give client a walkthrough and once they see it like it I receive my last 50% (all this with contract) . Dont speak about something you dont know about.
That's real sad poor lady.... If i could help I'll throw my labor down for free for this woman.... I've never seen an unsatisfied customer with my work I don't understand how people can do that s***'s people
The problem is not that the homeowner messed up but should have done some research on how things are done . The problem these contractors only goal is to lie and steal your money so it's hard not to fall prey to them plus they prey on the weak . It's a shame this happens and we should have these type of bozos beat up.
First mistake is looking at the cheapest estimates that comes in, Im betting he was the cheapest and got special attention. Second have him Explain what it is he will be doin, information is key, and wont take much to realize dude has no real complete plan of action.Third let him show previous work...Before and After pics, Most Legit company will have a detail list of previous work with pictures....
Yeah but the most time the homeowners are the problem cuz I do roofing too and when they call you and you say the price they say it's to high so they Don want to pay so then call this guy's charge less but the work is bad that happens to me all the time like 3 months ago a girl call me to fix the roof and she say no to high but it's too much and sometimes we have to replace the plywood my full prices to fix 10feet was 800 and she say you want 150 to do it and wtf really I'm say no she say 200 and I say you know what I'm going back to my work cuz you waste my time
Unbafrickenbalieveable!!!!!! I could of done better blind- folded!................ hope this story has a happy ending. If I lived near you Kris I would help you hands down!..........✌️🇨🇦
I have over 10 years of roofing experience. I'll do your roof for free. All you have to do is buy the materials and we'll go do your roof for free. I'm from Tucson Arizona
I've been a roofer for over 18 years! And this is the worst job I've ever seen! But it's not about being licensed and insured! It's about hiring a roofer that has true respect in is work! And references! Good ones and bad! So the the customers can make their mind up. Just cuz they have a license and a fancy truck! Don't make them real roofers! Plus they ain't doing the work! 90 percent of fake roofers maybe have about a month of real roofing experience! Ask real questions! I hate fake roofers! And illegal one's to boot! I feel sorry for those people!
to play the devils advocate... 11k for that roof??? apparently the guy took a job way out of his comfort level and bid the thing under about 6k. from the looks of it it needs facias and siding repairs too. and from the looks of it, again, i would guess the guy got overwhelmed and just left. This is why I'm afraid to hire a young white guy. Unlike illegal immigrants, when the work gets rough the white man could get by working at gas station making half if not less. OK OK now i know there are some badass white workers out there too so don't get crying bout it if you're one of them but I'm just saying, its happen to me too many times thats all.
Since it admittedly happened to you "too many times," I think that says more about YOU then it does about white guys working at gas stations OR illegal immigrants, or anybody else you can conjure up in your role as the devil's advocate!!
It’s not stupid people some people are just to honest to think that would happen to them. Liers and thief’s will alway try and do something like this to honest people.
They had a new roof donated to them by local companies and the guy who messed it up ended up facing a slew of charges, some not related to this particular roofing job. Justice was served.
There's your problem. Hiring a "contractor from Facebook.
Here’s a tip:
Consumers, quit shopping for the lowest price, start shopping for the best value.
People like this are a disgrace to us who work hard to deliver the job.
If it takes 20,000 to fix that roof that's another ripoff
A M fr lol
20K is pretty easy
@Alvin Ritter clown
Alvin Ritter you’re not wrong lol. My dad knows people and they did it for $800. Plus, they have over 10 years of experience. 😂 but we had to buy the materials. Still was cheap!
@Alvin Ritter lol.
I’m sorry to hear this. I know you worked hard for this money.
I AM BUILDER AND THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE PEOPLE LIKE THAT GIVE GOOD CONTRACTOR BAD NAME GO AFTER HIM.
Word of mouth is everything. I don't even advertise any more as my work speaks for itself and gets jobs. If one soul is grateful for your work, it is a wonderful feeling and guys like this try and rob us all of that feeling.
Tyg Rahof . I live in the Grand Rapids area and looking for a roofer.
does anyone know how to get ahold of these people!
I'm a Roofer and have been Roofing for over 19 year's. I would like to help them if I can.
I hate theifts! and people who don't know how to do there job! it gives real roofers a bad name
thanks
Kris sterk i just posted the link to their gofund me. Check the top comment
This guy fucking high nails every shingle!!!!!
I was thinking the same thing. I have held licenses in several states including Florida. I'm out of the business now pretty much retired with time on my hands.
I own a small roofing business as well we should help somehow.
I hate scammers that wreck family’s homes. If you get their job contact Lowe’s or Home Depot. They have community building money for these kind of projects. It’s a write off for them and they usually will supply volunteers to help.
Get 3+ estimates and hire the one that makes you squinch when you see the price.
bam, exactly!
The bitterness of poor quality lasts longer than the sweetness of a good price.
Good work ain't cheap and cheap work ain't good.
+tripp. The length of service matters too. If a roofing company has been in business for 30 years and is family-owned and run, that will be a good sign. They tend to quote high so as not to subject customers to sticker shock.
tripp. So true: you get what you pay for.
I wish I could go out a new roof for them for free. A few of us contractors should team up and help them out.
Ryan, God Bless You!
Ryan Candelario IM FOREMAN ROOFER ILL HELP WITH HAND WORK FREE
Who da fuq gives the full amount before the job is completed, let alone started?
VancouverCanucksRock Good hearted people who put their trust in stone hearted people
@@theperfectionofbeauty1443 Idiots that don't do their research on a company before hiring them. This happens all the time. I just had a new roof and they were not in any hurry for their money since I have lived here a long time. I got a great company that did mine.
he did a perfect job matching the roof to the rest of the place
That is an absolute shame!
Bless her heart I own a roofing company I see this all the time I feel so bad for people Specially homeowners i start cry with them because they never get there money back and no they will never trust anyone one again
As awful this is, the responsibility is with us the homeowners to do our checks etc, never pay up front or all of the money until the job is finished as that should sound alarm bells...
Sad thing is, he will get caught, put in jail, and after his sentence is up, he technically doesnt have to pay..
They won't put him in jail. It's a civil matter.
@@KidsandKittens217 They might if he fails to pay after a judgement against him.
First of all I would ask friends or neighbors if they know any good roofers that has done a job for them.
I was hired to do a job by an investor, he asked me to give him a great price,I told him if he wanted a great price for his roof replacement I would have to use economy shingles that were a cheaper price and had no warranty, he agreed on the price and job, 2-1/2 yrs later I get a phone call in the early spring and his roof is leaking very badly,the ceilings are damaged and falling down,the shingles never sealed down properly in the warm weather and were defective, the place that sold them to me they have never had any problems out of their material,but insisted they had no warranty,It was a mistake buying them,I had to hire an attorney and also ended up paying the homeowner the money back he paid me,his insurance paid the damages.
So sorry for you guys!
When it comes to roofing, you dont want to skimp.
This makes me feel so bad
We always bought singles or they can but we dont want money till its done and ive helped do over 300 a year
References is really what you need here. Ppl you have done work for to vouch for you. Pictures hlp aswell
First find him
Second beat him
Third see what he has of value and take it as much as you can
Fourth lock him up
My steps would have been:
1) find him
2) establish an airtight alibi
3) rent a backhoe for the weekend to "put in a coy pond"
4) tell the police you have no idea what happened to the guy, maybe he fled the state?
Should of asked for references and scouted out his work when spending that kind of coin, that's what I did when I hired a mason and he did a top notch job
And when my dad and I bid for a job most times People don’t even want pay us even when the job is done.
FOUR DAYS TO COMPLETE???????/ ONE DAY
You almost make me cry.sorry feel bad for
Roofing needs to be regulated. To many scammers and that Is the most important part of your home
If he is licensed, try the licensing agency. Hopefully, they will do better in your state than they do in Maryland.
Let me find you dude I swear
Did he tell her he have 20 years of experience, he is 24 years old
Never pay the Mariachi band before they even play! Always give 50% upfront and 50% when the contractor gives you the job.
As a 35 year roofer, it is still hard to believe the scab roofers out there. Consumers need to do thier home work when it comes to any constitution work. Check up on the company you plan to go with. A little home work will save you in the long run.
Dont people research who they choose to do business with. With all the tech and free info out there you can easy figure out who is and who isnt.
She should have known that something wasn't right when she was quoted a low $11,000.
$11,000 seems a little high to me for a low-pitch, one-story roof, even if re-sheathing.
If the soffits, facing boards and gutter were supposed to be included, that brings the $11,000 to "not enough".
But unless that house has a LOT More roof that wasn't shown, the $20,00 to have it redone properly seems exorbitant.
I wonder if they have a gofund me acc I'd like to donate to fix their roof they should give up sueing that pos its not worth the time or money it breaks my heart to see this
Damian Martinez i just posted a link to it
Damian Martinez " it's not worth the time or money " ?? Did you not hear that the guy had an insurance policy that he'd just gotten the day before? ? They're liable for the repairs, now, they're more than likely out the lawyer monies, but they could find a lawyer cheaper than calling it all a loss and cutting another 20 grand check for repairs
Where? there is no link
rocket man if they go to court and win their case the POS will most likely not pay either way. The home owners might never see a dime. It's better if a GoFundMe is created to help them.
rocket man The company is liable, not him personally. His company will declare bankruptcy and he’ll just open another company.
Guys please note that any legitimate contractor will never ask you for more than 10% up front they may ask for an In progress payment and a final. Never never give full or half of money upfront
I’ll never understand why people pay the full amount before they have the job finished in full. That’s a bad sign
They need a steel roof that has a 50 year warranty put on instead of the shitty shingles.
next time hire mexicans
slownlow210 crazy how people say Mexicans are bad people but when it comes down to it mexicans are the most honest.
You should hire mexicans
If they got there paper work hire them I have met many that work as hard as the physically can and are very proud of there work
Yes
Another scam people need to avoid. Those people who do rooftop coatings. They are an absolute rip-off and do nothing more than temporarily brighten up the color of your roof.
Had a neighbor a few years ago who towed a little trailer with a sprayer attached. For 1,000 he would go on your roof and spray a coating of tar.
He claimed it would penetrate the shingles and make them like new 😂😂😂. He said it would seal any leaks and give you at least another 10 years of life in your roof.
My poor neighbor fell for his scam. Watching the guy work, he diluted the tar to almost water like. He sprayed a very thin coat that was running down the shingles. It was nothing more than a cheap krylon paint job 😂.
The guy was even featured on scam alerts with the local news. He just suddenly packed up and moved out one weekend.
Within six months, the pretty color faded away.
I view this situation as a prime opportunity to become known as an honest and good roofer.
Come in and do the work for free, but do it right. Your name and company will be featured on the news. People will see you as a local hero and an honest roofer. You would get business all over the place.
Also, this lady would get the roof she badly needs.
Roofing material costs are not that bad. Most of the cost is the labor.
The cheapest contractor isn’t always the best way to go. Sometimes you gotta pay that extra money to get good work.
This is why when you get bad service from anyone you post a negative review on the internet so other people do not have to suffer too.
At least he actually had insurance , that’s the only silver lining
We got swindled by a company based out of fort Wayne. Luckily my husband made them fix the mistakes and refused to pay for stuff they claimed was done but wasn't. Was a bad experience but at least it wasn't a nightmare like this story.
My rule, you don't get one red cent till the job is completed and I'm satisfied. When you go to work, you clock in and don't get paid till its pay day. It is no different when you hire someone to do a job whatever it may be.
Phillip you should stick to watching south park, guys like this scum bag give contractors like me a bad name. What is the contractor supposed to buy all materials and pay for out of his own pocket, how is he gonna pay his workers? I certainly dont ask for the full amount; i asked for 50% down and once project is finished I give client a walkthrough and once they see it like it I receive my last 50% (all this with contract) . Dont speak about something you dont know about.
Sad to see this but this is what happens when you go with the cheapest bid.
Thats seems way to much money
That guy needs to be sued into oblivion and spend the rest of his life in prison.
What a monster.
Someone needs to send this to Rob Wolchek in Detroit. His Hall of Shame segment is perfect for crappy people like this.
Why would you pay a contractor in full you hired off Facebook?
Insurance worthless unless its paid up to date never give money till job done right
That's real sad poor lady.... If i could help I'll throw my labor down for free for this woman.... I've never seen an unsatisfied customer with my work I don't understand how people can do that s***'s people
The problem is not that the homeowner messed up but should have done some research on how things are done . The problem these contractors only goal is to lie and steal your money so it's hard not to fall prey to them plus they prey on the weak . It's a shame this happens and we should have these type of bozos beat up.
Im fucking mortified
First mistake is looking at the cheapest estimates that comes in, Im betting he was the cheapest and got special attention. Second have him Explain what it is he will be doin, information is key, and wont take much to realize dude has no real complete plan of action.Third let him show previous work...Before and After pics, Most Legit company will have a detail list of previous work with pictures....
this guy should be looking over his sholder you dont screw people and live very long
11 thousands too much for that roof in the first place, thats more like 8
Yeah but the most time the homeowners are the problem cuz I do roofing too and when they call you and you say the price they say it's to high so they Don want to pay so then call this guy's charge less but the work is bad that happens to me all the time like 3 months ago a girl call me to fix the roof and she say no to high but it's too much and sometimes we have to replace the plywood my full prices to fix 10feet was 800 and she say you want 150 to do it and wtf really I'm say no she say 200 and I say you know what I'm going back to my work cuz you waste my time
Unbafrickenbalieveable!!!!!! I could of done better blind- folded!................ hope this story has a happy ending. If I lived near you Kris I would help you hands down!..........✌️🇨🇦
Jerrythe coo 🇨🇦
I have over 10 years of roofing experience. I'll do your roof for free. All you have to do is buy the materials and we'll go do your roof for free. I'm from Tucson Arizona
I've been a roofer for over 18 years! And this is the worst job I've ever seen!
But it's not about being licensed and insured! It's about hiring a roofer that has true respect in is work! And references! Good ones and bad!
So the the customers can make their mind up. Just cuz they have a license and a fancy truck! Don't make them real roofers! Plus they ain't doing the work!
90 percent of fake roofers maybe have about a month of real roofing experience!
Ask real questions!
I hate fake roofers! And illegal one's to boot!
I feel sorry for those people!
Iths jutht a mesth
iTech just like your "sentence"
D1G1T4L L4N3 that makes no sense.
i like how her head sort of morphs into her shoulders.
lo bid much?
😱
God will take care of that scammer. When we do bad things God pulls His grace, protection and care... this dude is in big trouble
So what bad things did the people do to get scammed? What did they do for god to remove his grace, protection and care from them?
to play the devils advocate... 11k for that roof??? apparently the guy took a job way out of his comfort level and bid the thing under about 6k. from the looks of it it needs facias and siding repairs too. and from the looks of it, again, i would guess the guy got overwhelmed and just left. This is why I'm afraid to hire a young white guy. Unlike illegal immigrants, when the work gets rough the white man could get by working at gas station making half if not less. OK OK now i know there are some badass white workers out there too so don't get crying bout it if you're one of them but I'm just saying, its happen to me too many times thats all.
DLTD race don’t matter
Lazy is lazy
Since it admittedly happened to you "too many times," I think that says more about YOU then it does about white guys working at gas stations OR illegal immigrants, or anybody else you can conjure up in your role as the devil's advocate!!
A fool and their money shall part! I feel bad for supid people .
Mark Butler (stupid)
It’s not stupid people some people are just to honest to think that would happen to them. Liers and thief’s will alway try and do something like this to honest people.
LOL...😂...😂...@Lance Vance
Because one is overly trusting and naive, doesn't necessarily mean that one is "stupid!"
That was THEIR fault, their search for a quality roofer was inadequate and haphazard! They deserved that!
whaaaaaaaaaaaa, we have to get an attorney because we are fucking dumb, whaaaaaaaa!
neat
Hahahah mannnnn exactly what I'm thinking