UPDATE: Someone bought up almost all the RECIPES for Toxic Focusing Crystals and Toxic Maintenance Oils skyrocketing the price in the Trading Post. It is NOT worth buying these recipes at the current prices of 28 gold and 11 gold! INSTEAD you can spend 7,777 Karma on Torn Pages from the PSNA vendor (wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Torn_Page_from_%22Tyrian_Pact_Survival_Handbook%22). These give you a chance for the recipe as well, nearly for free! This is only relevant if you don't own the recipes yet.
I'd also like to point out that if most players, like myself, find themselves capping their inventory on raw materials at 250, please upgrade to a 500 cap or greater before you start crafting these materials!
Ah very true! I have my material storage capped at 2,500 at the moment and depending on my activities in game tend to still overcap some materials (although that might be an indicator of my playtime during the week as well). I started making the ingots, stars and bricks at some point as well. But I have a surplus in my bank now due to slowly getting my legendary armor. Prior to the legendary armor, they were invaluable though.
it's the economically worse way of doing things. Everything that is liquid unless you have a very specific plan(like stockpiling a material for a legendary item step on the side) should be sold or transformed. Ascended reagents, unless you actually bot or play 15h a day for a month can all be processed through gobblers unless you do not have lw3. Buying raw mat storage is like loosing gold to make your gold less liquid for 95% of the players, 5% remaining are 12K+ achievments points players who know the game by ear and who play for multiple legendaries crafts at once. If you want a specific reagent either you buy it with the gold you got from selling your drops OR you buy packs of materials with lw currencies and then sell the remaining.
Scrapper good choice. The converters are worth earning. I use them daily. And never have an excess flowing from my mat storage. But i have every converter. This really adds up over time.
It's hard to not play scrapper for most of the Open World Activities. The combination of permanent superspeed and quickness is something I tend to miss on other classes. On top of that having access to stealth, jumps, etc. just makes the class great to play imo.
So, I've been checking the material costs versus the final products, and it occurs that the benefits are null or negative as of May 7th 2023. The exception is the Magnanimous Tuning Crystal which are still worth crafting and selling. As someone stated earlier, if a lot of people are supplying lots of products, the prices are gonna drop due to the high offer. Thanks for sharing nonetheless. :)
Thanks! I crafted Toxic Focusing Crystals still at a profit this morning, I am gonna wager empyreal fragments will remain the most profitable out of the 3 unless the meta heavily changes. But yeah, the prices might fluctuate a bit in the near future so calculating whether it's worth crafting is definitely the thing to do for now. Over time I believe the prices will even out again though, a lot of my favorite recipes feature account bound ingredients and the TP usually offers some form of premium for those. The Magnanimous versions you mentioned could potentially benefit from having 2 account bound ingredients if the market remains like this.
@@phandrel I gotta admit that I haven't been entirely thorough while checking the prices. I've checked them all except for the toxic sharpening stone and toxic tuning crystal. I've jumped to the conclusion somewhat too quickly, but most recipes aren't profitable anymore at this very moment. ^^' So, yeah, as you stated, it is best checking the prices beforehand. :)
i have so much bloodstone dust, this video came up at the perfect time, im working on legendaries right now. i dont need the mats i need gold. thanks man
The problem with crafting is that the more people do it, the higher the supply and the lower the prices you can ask and as such the profitability will go down. So really what you should be hoping is that only a few people will start doing this and not many or the prices will go down considerably.
While I do think it's realistic that the price gets impacted for a bit if supply increases. At some point the price should stabilise, as the TP tends to pay a premium for account bound materials.
Bullshit. Guild wars 2 ecomony isnt as big as in other mmos, but its not as small so content creator with less than 10k subs can do a meaningful impact on the prices on tp. Video is great and watching small youtubers about earning gold is what makes you actually richer ingame
@@GRIFFINPOLSKA lol, I think you should reevaluate your comment. Literally the weekend after this video was posted supply for ALL of these items skyrocketed and prices have almost halved. I think the only one that is barely profitable to make is Toxic focusing crystal.
I just convert them to ingots using the “obsidian craft” filter in the craft panel. 100 to 1 conversion rate. I also purchased some storage expansions to increase my storage capacity. At some point, I will craft ascended gears. These ingots will come in handy.
@@lestermorales782 That's a problem for "rich" people. I'm not there yet. I have 8 characters. Each has at least 3 sets of gears. That is 3 x 8 = 24 sets of armors and weapons. 24 x 6 armor pieces + 24 x 2.5 weapons = 200+ ascended items that I can craft.
I farm my ascended materials in LW3, specific map harvest nodes gives dragonite ore, the mining gives bloodstone, and the logging gives empyreal, using bounty glyphs I get double
@@snowdropfox5754 Yeah actually it does. Especially over time. Again, depending on your situation. I know I'm making a lot more gold on my alt accounts spending time doing things other than offsetting minor silver losses. I'll chalk up your snark as a failure of imagination.
Exactly, Inventory management isn't fun. I sell everything less than one silver at a merchant because it's not worth the time it takes for the trading post to generate the "item sold successfully" message. I don't open random gear before I sell it either. I've considered turning autoloot off, but decided that was too extreme.
@@simex909 Exactly. It's personal. It depends on the nature of your account/(s). I DO open random gear, but I'll store some stacks and do it once a month while youtube is playing in the background. That works for me, but I can imagine how that wouldn't work for somebody else. For bloodstone dust etc, I'll gobble the stacks on my main account, but for my other accounts, I just dump it. Not worth the time/space, and alt accounts are low on unlocked crafting anyways. I do think the video's suggestions are good for accounts that are maybe under 4 years old. But after that you're very likely to have better ways to make gold for the time invested.
This is cool, I've been using Gobblers for years now, I never thought to sell crafted items. For people starting out, this is gonna clear up a lot of inventory space. I had no idea people were throwing them away though, that's kinda nuts, never throw anything away except maybe items only good as part of a collection that the TP or the NPC won't buy. What we REALLY need a gobbler for though is Tenebrous Crystals, Shimmering Crystals, and Prismaticite Crystals. The former I'm always selling to the NPC and the latter I'm just storing on a toon, hoping someday these stacks and stacks will become useful.
Thank you! Yeah, I've been on a quest to find outputs for account bound items and noticed for quite a few of them sell at a premium because of time gating or ingredients being account bound. I feel you on the Tenebrous and Shimmering crystals, as I can't find any output that is non-account bound sadly. For the Prismaticite there is somewhat of a solution, but it's not ideal: some of the Commander's Dragon Slayer weapons sell at a slight profit if you use buy-listings for the ingredients and a sell-listing for the output. In general they usually cost 8-9g to craft and the dagger and longbow usually sell for 10g with a sell listing. I have no idea about the velocity though, so you might be stuck waiting for the item to actually sell. So safeguarding them on an alt might be preferable for now.
Damn, toxic maintenance oil went from 10-20 silver to 3-5 silver a piece :P Good for the buyers, i guess xd Toxic focusing crystals (empyreal fragments) are still profitable, even with the increasing costs for dust and toxic spores. I think for now it's fine if we give put the bloodstone and dragonite into Herta, Mawdrey II, Princess, and the Gleam of sentience.
Thanks man, might try this, I collect the crystalline dust and toxic spore samples anyway. You get a ton of spores in tower of nightmare, and a modest amount of crystalline dust from silverwastes
Yeah Tower of Nightmares is a boon for collecting the spores. Kessex Hills is technically farmable, but it's a pain to set up and ideally you have someone helping you so you can teleport to the same map instance on all of your alts.
this is very useful info, esp the bloodstone dust one, I have several extra stacks and a ton of pristine spores that I dunno what to do with. this is great, thank you!
Yes and no. Some of the items to craft you cited are cheaper to buy then to craft. For instance, the 1st one you cited: Toxic maintenance oil. 5 of them is worth around 34s. Crafting 5 of them uses around 50s worth of materials. Some receipes are profitable, but most of them aren't and you'd be better selling off the materials rather than crafting the item.
Yeah, some of the prices have been impacted since this video was published a couple of weeks ago. It is still very much worth to check on the non-profitable ones every now and then in case something changes.
Definitely is not worth it. Output is 5 oils, and you need to spend 3 crystalline dust per craft, which themselves are worth almost exactly the same as those 5 oils per dust, so you'll be at 50-60s loss per craft.
Empyreal Fragments stack up like crazy. For the Dragonite Ore and Bloodstone Dust I luckily have gobblers for but I have stacks and stacks of Empyreal Fragments scattered in my characters inventories. Shame the Crystalline Dust is also used for Gift of Dust or I'd do this.
As it stands right now, dragonite ore is the only problem child I have. The other two sell well enough not to be gobbled by sentient anomoly or thier respective gobblers, but dragonite ore is worth more dead than alive right now.
Thanks! Yeah it's been my first try at chroma keying and can definitely use improvement. I've started working with the advanced settings, but I kept losing part of my own textures so decided it would be fine for the first video. Definitely looking to improve for the next ones though.
@@phandrel you are welcome! We've all been there haha. Just play around a little bit with min/max values and/or try a second chroma key for the green contour, as the green close to the object usually is a tiny bit darker, it's sometimes hard to catch all the color you want for a single chroma key. Keep up the Content! :)
Yes, sadly, the price rose to a ridiculous level. I pinned a comment about it. Don't spend your gold on the recipe now, I think they will eventually go down to their earlier prices. In the meantime, you can buy torn pages from pact supply vendors (wiki link is in the pinned post). You can buy 6 pages per day for 7,777 karma each and eventually unlock the recipes like that. In those torn pages, there are also recipes for celestial pearl weapons, of which I talk in my charged quartz crystal video 😀.
Those 2 are rather annoying, but there is somewhat of a solution that requires extra materials. You can use both Auric Dust and Ley Line Sparks to craft Fulgurite (also needs Obisidian Shards and Bottles of Airship Oil). Then you can craft Jeweled Damask Patches, which sell for almost double of regular damask patches. Alternatively, Jeweled Deldrimor Steel Plated Dowels could be crafted as well, but they're much less profit than the Jeweled Damask Patches.
Yeah, some recipes are locked to specific crafts. You can change your professions around for a slight fee, without losing progress in the ones you "unlearned" though. You can then swap back later for that same fee again. Or level it up on an alt.
ummm am i missing something here? all of these will leave you with a loss. lets take the toxic sharpening stones for example. Just the 3 Crystalline Dust has a TP value of 33s, whereas the toxic sharpening stone that you use the dust to make only has a TP value of 7s if you slow sell it. how at all are these good crafting options? Same goes with the maintenance oil, its worth 5s on the TP but costs 50s worth of mats to craft.... ?????????
After the video got picked up by the algorithm and viewed by a lot of people, the profitability took a nosedive. So it's one to keep in mind in case things ever change, but for now sadly not worth the effort.
Oooo definately gonna be using the recipies for the empjemeral shards and bloodstone dust as I would acually be using those items a lot. Wouldn't even need to sell them on the tp.
I have no idea what to do with eternal ice shards thou. I get too many too quickly and I'll probably burn my karma to 0 if I convert all of it to LS4 mats, and I have all legendary trinkets. Got all recipes too.
Yeah, sadly Ice Shards are tied to karma to cash out on them. I've been planning a video around them to offer people alternative conversions than simply the shipments. Need to finish doing the math to make sure I'm not giving the wrong advice on that one though. Slight edit: I'll also make a karma farm video at some point :-)
Not directly, but there is a way to at least get a decent amount of gold out of Auric Dust. If you combine those with Obsidian Shards, Bottles of Airship OIl and Ley Line Sparks into Fulgurite, you can make Jeweled Damask Patches and Jeweled Deldrimor Steel Plated Dowels. The Jeweled Damask Patches sell for almost double the value of the non-jeweled versions.
According to [fast] farming, the Gleam of Sentience is about 97 silver profit (fast.farming-community.eu/open-world/converters) and they do split it evenly between the 3 sentient convertors that require T7 mats (35.5 silver each). To compare to the methods described in the video, we would need to craft 15 of each of the toxic utilities so that we can use 300 empyreal fragments, 300 bloodstone dust and 300 dragonite ore total. This will allow us for a somewhat 1 on 1 comparison, although it's not a perfect method. If we make 15 toxic focusing crystals and 15 toxic maintenance oils, our profit is 1g25s, which is better than the convertor. Toxic Sharpening Stones leaves us at a slight deficit. So if you want to truly optimise: I would say to only cash in on the Sentient Anomaly (Bloodstone Dust + Dragonite Ore) and use the other T7 mats for crafting toxic utilities.
They are needed for crafted ascended armour, too, but even that you could get through strikes, raids, fractals, wvw. You can hang on to a decent amount for the different gobblers, though. That way, you get a few free unid gears per day.
@@phandrel Thanks for the reply and the info! Much appreciated. I've got a full set of ascended gear from various things and I don't play enough that I'm fussed about multiple sets for different builds and things like that (I'm basically just playing through the story with friends). Also subscribed since its always nice to have a channel with good videos who also responds to comments! :)
According to the [fast] farming website, it currently isn't worth to do so with a Copper-Fed Salvage O Matic (or equivalent kit). Runecrafter's it's slightly worth and Silver-fed is a profit going for dust. fast.farming-community.eu/salvaging/salvageables you can check it here, if you type Glob of Ectoplasm in the search box. If you are not maxed out on luck yet, salvaging ectos also yields an ungodly amount of luck. It definitely helped me max out my luck really fast. As for salvaging from items: make sure you use the proper kits/salvage o matics for them as well to optimise your profits. If not, selling greens and yellows on the TP might turn out more profitable. If there's enough interest, I can definitely make a video on that topic.
@@phandrel Thanks. I don't have any mat eaters or salvage o matics. Most greens and yellows I just sell on the TP, but when I don't, I use mystic or BL salvage kits (I have tons of both). I go back and forth on salvaging for ectos versus selling and buying ectos when I need them, and usually default to the latter due to lack of immediate need. My conservative gambler brain tries to tell me: buy only what you need and sell the rest rather than stock up for something you don't think you'll ever need.
@@Draelos Black Lion Salvage Kits are definitely worth using on Exotics. You will get out the rune/sigil and still get the salvage materials. As for sell vs salvage, it's a bit of a toss up. Technically, if you don't need the materials and can dedicate the resources elsewhere, selling would be preferable. But if you eventually need the materials, selling is not always the best option because you lose 15% with the Trading Post Taxes. Personally I try to strike a bit of a balance between both.
I used to have an abundance of them and then started crafting ascended armor sets for all of my characters. This led to me having to farm a massive amount of them. Now I constantly run out because I make the recipes :P
It was a few before my video :( - if you don't have it yet, buy the Torn Pages from the Pact Supply Network Agent for 7,777 Karma and you'll eventually unlock it without paying the TP price :)
There are two relevant gobblers for each type of ascended material, so you can convert 450-600 into gifts every day once you have them. If you farm the same content over and over and get heaps of the same material every day that might not be enough, but for most players it should be the easiest solution.
A lot changed since I posted this video, I'm planning to make an update addressing some of my published recipes soon :) Also thinking of a way to let everyone follow up on profitability through some sheet or site, but that is a longer term goal
You already lose gold on the Toxic Maintainence Oil, but the Toxic Focusing Crystal is big profit. Recipe costs 28 gp on Trading Post, but it will pay for itself fairly quickly. Dragonite Ore is garbage right now - just delete.
There are certain gizmos you can unlock through various achievements which will "gobble up" a lot of excess materials. You can find a full list here: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Converter I made sort of an update to this video, as well as a few others - since some things have changed since then :) ua-cam.com/video/MEZEBBaPfUE/v-deo.html
@@phandrel Thank you, though after looking at the rewards i'm not sure it's "worth it". The Bloodstone Brick seems like the only decent use for it. On the other hand i explored the uses for the Dust and it seems there's some Bloodstone Fen and Dragon's End zone unlocks i can do with that.
@@gokkiyoutube Yeah, the main goldmaker of the 3 ascended materials are empyreal fragments, when it comes to crafting. They are quite valuable once you get the gobblers, though. They're a decent source of unidentified gear.
Annnnd just like that, Toxic Maintenance Oil is no longer worth crafting, making it better to just destroy bloodstone again. Dragonite has always been garbage and should be thrown out too. Emp frags for focusing crystals are the only worthwhile craft. As for the eaters, they're noob traps. Too much clicking for too little gain (far too many garbage items that you can't quickly salvage or vendor away). If you value your time/sanity, you shouldn't bother with them.
This is definitely a factor. Translated into simpler terms - the time you spend clicking the gobblers you can spend playing the game and making probably more profit.
@@phandrel more than money, I want a real use for those materials to turn into other materials to be used for crafting legendaries or something. My main focus is not money because I use gems.
@@miguelmolano6611 It would be great if ANet ever revisited some of the materials such as these. But in the meantime we have to make do with what the game allows us.
@@dasKeks28 When the video came out, it was around 74s/5, with a crafting cost of 56s. But yeah, that opportunity is kind of out of the market for now. Let's see what happens to the prices going forward.
When you double click the treasure maps, you get a special action key that you can press and will guide you to the right location. Ideally, you only farm for the buried treasures during the "Search for the Buried Treasure" event, as those chests contain the more valuable items.
Aww snap fam, i rly have been deleting gold 😳💸 my old default method for years was just to refine them into the higher crafting tier bricks/stars/crystals but farming obsi shards from the one orr event is a bit of a pain too. I can play every profession except the trading post baron lol
Nice option, thanks for info. But If more people start to craft and sell these items, price will drop significantly, resulting in near to 0 profit from crafting these, so you dont want to "hope that more and more people will catch on to these recipes" :D
I appreciate the info but atm recipes #1 & 2 are no longer profitable; recipe #3 costs 24g at tp so you gotta craft 60 times with a .4g profit/per (spend 6,000 empyrial frags) and only after this "small investment" the thing will start to be profitable...
Yeah someone (or multiple people) sadly bought out the recipes on t he trading post. As I mentioned in the pinned comment, you can still unlock it through the Pact Supply Network Agents for 7,777 karma. It's a bit RNG to unlock it that way, but it shouldn't take more than a couple of days and at least you're not paying 20+ gold that way.
No disrespect (throws a stack) it is a nice video (throws another stack) these just come too fast from wvw (throws 3 more stacks). I want bag freedom for the valuable drops from my kills in wvw (switches to other character to throw 3 more stacks). Thanks for video though just faster to throw it 😅
I truly hope not and if it does, let's hope it evens out at some point again. A solid alternative would be the magnanimous versions in that case, which use Fire Orchid Blooms. Because these are account bound as well and the TP (over time) tends to pay off for account bound materials.
As @OneHalf said, crafting 1 gen 2 legendary and they'll just disappear. Other things I like are the Empty Keg (cooking) if you have a lot of flax and I personally also spend a hefty amount making mithril earrings to convert to research notes.
How does it work? 3 Piles of Crytalline Dust worth 48.15s + 5 Pristine Toxic Spore Samples 33.2s = 81.35s The sold 5 Toxic Maintenance Oil worth 46.85s -15% = 39.82s. So where comes the profit in the picture? If you listen to this guy, you can burn gold easier, than pulling Bloodstone Dust out of the inventory
@@ereshkigalis Awesome :) it's good to be critical, esp with these videos. Sadly, I can't control what happens on the TP, and this video kinda caught me off guard (I had 50 odd views when I made this), with some people rushing the TP to buy out certain recipes. I try to focus more on method nowadays, I also sometimes post some updates in my discord :)
recipe is 9gold not a couple of silver and you make zero profit making these unless you have toxic spore samples somehow ...waste of time you can make way more gold doing something else
The prices of the recipes sadly skyrocketed since my video: Toxic maintenance oil recipe went up 1,700%, Toxic Focusing crystal recipe went up 800%. The spread between buy and sell is at a ridiculous level too, so I'm assuming someone with a lot of liquidity bought out all the recipes and is trying to capitalize on this. Toxic Focusing crystals are still 22-29 silver profit (depending on if you insta sell or list) when putting in buy orders for crystalline dust + pristine toxic spore samples. So I wouldn't say you can't make money off of this anymore. As for making gold with something else. That'll always be the case regardless of what content is in a video. There's higher gph solo farms, there's selling achievements, etc. but those don't get rid of the T7 materials. I typically craft these when we are forming groups w/ our guild.
Don't listen to this video. The ammount of gold and time you waste making these itens just don't worth it. Just delete it and thats it. I made Maldrew and loose much more than the pathetic itens she gives in exchange
Very good video man, you talk clearly, no obnoxious loud music, straight to the point, you did an excellent job !
Thank you!
UPDATE:
Someone bought up almost all the RECIPES for Toxic Focusing Crystals and Toxic Maintenance Oils skyrocketing the price in the Trading Post.
It is NOT worth buying these recipes at the current prices of 28 gold and 11 gold! INSTEAD you can spend 7,777 Karma on Torn Pages from the PSNA vendor (wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Torn_Page_from_%22Tyrian_Pact_Survival_Handbook%22). These give you a chance for the recipe as well, nearly for free!
This is only relevant if you don't own the recipes yet.
I'd also like to point out that if most players, like myself, find themselves capping their inventory on raw materials at 250, please upgrade to a 500 cap or greater before you start crafting these materials!
Ah very true! I have my material storage capped at 2,500 at the moment and depending on my activities in game tend to still overcap some materials (although that might be an indicator of my playtime during the week as well).
I started making the ingots, stars and bricks at some point as well. But I have a surplus in my bank now due to slowly getting my legendary armor. Prior to the legendary armor, they were invaluable though.
use an alt account as a bank
it's the economically worse way of doing things. Everything that is liquid unless you have a very specific plan(like stockpiling a material for a legendary item step on the side) should be sold or transformed. Ascended reagents, unless you actually bot or play 15h a day for a month can all be processed through gobblers unless you do not have lw3. Buying raw mat storage is like loosing gold to make your gold less liquid for 95% of the players, 5% remaining are 12K+ achievments points players who know the game by ear and who play for multiple legendaries crafts at once. If you want a specific reagent either you buy it with the gold you got from selling your drops OR you buy packs of materials with lw currencies and then sell the remaining.
Scrapper good choice. The converters are worth earning. I use them daily. And never have an excess flowing from my mat storage. But i have every converter. This really adds up over time.
It's hard to not play scrapper for most of the Open World Activities. The combination of permanent superspeed and quickness is something I tend to miss on other classes. On top of that having access to stealth, jumps, etc. just makes the class great to play imo.
So, I've been checking the material costs versus the final products, and it occurs that the benefits are null or negative as of May 7th 2023.
The exception is the Magnanimous Tuning Crystal which are still worth crafting and selling.
As someone stated earlier, if a lot of people are supplying lots of products, the prices are gonna drop due to the high offer.
Thanks for sharing nonetheless. :)
Thanks! I crafted Toxic Focusing Crystals still at a profit this morning, I am gonna wager empyreal fragments will remain the most profitable out of the 3 unless the meta heavily changes.
But yeah, the prices might fluctuate a bit in the near future so calculating whether it's worth crafting is definitely the thing to do for now. Over time I believe the prices will even out again though, a lot of my favorite recipes feature account bound ingredients and the TP usually offers some form of premium for those.
The Magnanimous versions you mentioned could potentially benefit from having 2 account bound ingredients if the market remains like this.
@@phandrel I gotta admit that I haven't been entirely thorough while checking the prices. I've checked them all except for the toxic sharpening stone and toxic tuning crystal. I've jumped to the conclusion somewhat too quickly, but most recipes aren't profitable anymore at this very moment. ^^'
So, yeah, as you stated, it is best checking the prices beforehand. :)
i have so much bloodstone dust, this video came up at the perfect time, im working on legendaries right now. i dont need the mats i need gold. thanks man
The problem with crafting is that the more people do it, the higher the supply and the lower the prices you can ask and as such the profitability will go down. So really what you should be hoping is that only a few people will start doing this and not many or the prices will go down considerably.
While I do think it's realistic that the price gets impacted for a bit if supply increases. At some point the price should stabilise, as the TP tends to pay a premium for account bound materials.
Bullshit. Guild wars 2 ecomony isnt as big as in other mmos, but its not as small so content creator with less than 10k subs can do a meaningful impact on the prices on tp. Video is great and watching small youtubers about earning gold is what makes you actually richer ingame
@@GRIFFINPOLSKA Well, your comment aged like shit. Read the description.
somebody gets it
@@GRIFFINPOLSKA lol, I think you should reevaluate your comment. Literally the weekend after this video was posted supply for ALL of these items skyrocketed and prices have almost halved. I think the only one that is barely profitable to make is Toxic focusing crystal.
I just convert them to ingots using the “obsidian craft” filter in the craft panel. 100 to 1 conversion rate. I also purchased some storage expansions to increase my storage capacity. At some point, I will craft ascended gears. These ingots will come in handy.
At some point you may realize is not a good idea, I have 50+ of upgraded dragonite an empyreal and I don't need ascended gear anymore
@@lestermorales782 That's a problem for "rich" people. I'm not there yet. I have 8 characters. Each has at least 3 sets of gears. That is 3 x 8 = 24 sets of armors and weapons. 24 x 6 armor pieces + 24 x 2.5 weapons = 200+ ascended items that I can craft.
I farm my ascended materials in LW3, specific map harvest nodes gives dragonite ore, the mining gives bloodstone, and the logging gives empyreal, using bounty glyphs I get double
I have an alt just to hold all the bloodstone dust I have
Good stuff depending on your situation. But the most important factor to consider.... What is more valuable than gold? .......time.
Yeah, pre-ordering 2 mats on the TP and the clicking the crafting button once, then selling the items clearly needs a massive amount of your playtime.
@@snowdropfox5754 Yeah actually it does. Especially over time. Again, depending on your situation. I know I'm making a lot more gold on my alt accounts spending time doing things other than offsetting minor silver losses. I'll chalk up your snark as a failure of imagination.
Exactly, Inventory management isn't fun. I sell everything less than one silver at a merchant because it's not worth the time it takes for the trading post to generate the "item sold successfully" message. I don't open random gear before I sell it either. I've considered turning autoloot off, but decided that was too extreme.
@@simex909 Exactly. It's personal. It depends on the nature of your account/(s). I DO open random gear, but I'll store some stacks and do it once a month while youtube is playing in the background. That works for me, but I can imagine how that wouldn't work for somebody else. For bloodstone dust etc, I'll gobble the stacks on my main account, but for my other accounts, I just dump it. Not worth the time/space, and alt accounts are low on unlocked crafting anyways. I do think the video's suggestions are good for accounts that are maybe under 4 years old. But after that you're very likely to have better ways to make gold for the time invested.
This is cool, I've been using Gobblers for years now, I never thought to sell crafted items. For people starting out, this is gonna clear up a lot of inventory space. I had no idea people were throwing them away though, that's kinda nuts, never throw anything away except maybe items only good as part of a collection that the TP or the NPC won't buy.
What we REALLY need a gobbler for though is Tenebrous Crystals, Shimmering Crystals, and Prismaticite Crystals. The former I'm always selling to the NPC and the latter I'm just storing on a toon, hoping someday these stacks and stacks will become useful.
Thank you! Yeah, I've been on a quest to find outputs for account bound items and noticed for quite a few of them sell at a premium because of time gating or ingredients being account bound.
I feel you on the Tenebrous and Shimmering crystals, as I can't find any output that is non-account bound sadly. For the Prismaticite there is somewhat of a solution, but it's not ideal: some of the Commander's Dragon Slayer weapons sell at a slight profit if you use buy-listings for the ingredients and a sell-listing for the output. In general they usually cost 8-9g to craft and the dagger and longbow usually sell for 10g with a sell listing. I have no idea about the velocity though, so you might be stuck waiting for the item to actually sell. So safeguarding them on an alt might be preferable for now.
Damn, toxic maintenance oil went from 10-20 silver to 3-5 silver a piece :P
Good for the buyers, i guess xd
Toxic focusing crystals (empyreal fragments) are still profitable, even with the increasing costs for dust and toxic spores.
I think for now it's fine if we give put the bloodstone and dragonite into Herta, Mawdrey II, Princess, and the Gleam of sentience.
Thanks man, might try this, I collect the crystalline dust and toxic spore samples anyway. You get a ton of spores in tower of nightmare, and a modest amount of crystalline dust from silverwastes
Yeah Tower of Nightmares is a boon for collecting the spores. Kessex Hills is technically farmable, but it's a pain to set up and ideally you have someone helping you so you can teleport to the same map instance on all of your alts.
I feel like it is prestige thing at this point to delete them after you have like 7+ ascended sets. Also it wastes obsidian shards.
well yeah, only one of those recipes seems to be purchasable off the trading post... the toxic focusing crystal for example is not
If you wanna remove green halo when green screening, use Advanced Spill Suppressor. Thanks for the video though, brb making utilites now!
I just use the gobblers. It'll be interesting to see your solution to this.
Or you can get things like Mawdrey and Gleam of Sentience and trade all those mats for loot.
Good tips.
For the dragonite, I basically feed it to the Kraka princess.
this is very useful info, esp the bloodstone dust one, I have several extra stacks and a ton of pristine spores that I dunno what to do with. this is great, thank you!
Couldn't they just change the stack size to unlimited? -.-
Not worth the effort in my opinion - thanks for the info though!
I started crafting a lot of these whilst groups are forming, shortened my "down time" and increased my wallet :-)
I have 5k empyreal shards just sitting around on one of my chars, so this definently seems worth the trouble for me
Indeed, thanks 🙏
converters are alright and fast, you get some uni gear from them
changed my life here. thanks!
Love to hear it!
Yes and no. Some of the items to craft you cited are cheaper to buy then to craft. For instance, the 1st one you cited: Toxic maintenance oil. 5 of them is worth around 34s. Crafting 5 of them uses around 50s worth of materials.
Some receipes are profitable, but most of them aren't and you'd be better selling off the materials rather than crafting the item.
Yeah, some of the prices have been impacted since this video was published a couple of weeks ago.
It is still very much worth to check on the non-profitable ones every now and then in case something changes.
Definitely is not worth it. Output is 5 oils, and you need to spend 3 crystalline dust per craft, which themselves are worth almost exactly the same as those 5 oils per dust, so you'll be at 50-60s loss per craft.
Wasn't the case more than a year ago when this video came out. Now it is the case sadly, nothing's worth it anymore
If you sell 3 Pile of Crystalline Dust (3x16s) and 5 Pristine Toxic Spore Sample (5x7s) reward is 83s (more...) 5 Toxic Sharpening Stone give 55 max.
Empyreal Fragments stack up like crazy. For the Dragonite Ore and Bloodstone Dust I luckily have gobblers for but I have stacks and stacks of Empyreal Fragments scattered in my characters inventories. Shame the Crystalline Dust is also used for Gift of Dust or I'd do this.
In Wintersday there's an achievement that rewards you the gobler for Empyreal Fragments, look for it this year.
As it stands right now, dragonite ore is the only problem child I have. The other two sell well enough not to be gobbled by sentient anomoly or thier respective gobblers, but dragonite ore is worth more dead than alive right now.
easiest like of my life. tysm for this video. i always felt bad spam deleting 😭
you actually saved me Gold lol, thank you!
Btw: when Chroma Keying, play around with min and max values to get rid of your green contour.
Thanks! Yeah it's been my first try at chroma keying and can definitely use improvement.
I've started working with the advanced settings, but I kept losing part of my own textures so decided it would be fine for the first video. Definitely looking to improve for the next ones though.
@@phandrel you are welcome! We've all been there haha. Just play around a little bit with min/max values and/or try a second chroma key for the green contour, as the green close to the object usually is a tiny bit darker, it's sometimes hard to catch all the color you want for a single chroma key.
Keep up the Content! :)
Did the price of the recipes go up? All of the recipes on the TP seem to be 7-11 gold now. :(
Yes, sadly, the price rose to a ridiculous level. I pinned a comment about it. Don't spend your gold on the recipe now, I think they will eventually go down to their earlier prices. In the meantime, you can buy torn pages from pact supply vendors (wiki link is in the pinned post). You can buy 6 pages per day for 7,777 karma each and eventually unlock the recipes like that.
In those torn pages, there are also recipes for celestial pearl weapons, of which I talk in my charged quartz crystal video 😀.
After getting rid of the big 3, now I have Pile of Auric Dust and Ley Line Sparks left... What can I do with them?
Those 2 are rather annoying, but there is somewhat of a solution that requires extra materials.
You can use both Auric Dust and Ley Line Sparks to craft Fulgurite (also needs Obisidian Shards and Bottles of Airship Oil). Then you can craft Jeweled Damask Patches, which sell for almost double of regular damask patches.
Alternatively, Jeweled Deldrimor Steel Plated Dowels could be crafted as well, but they're much less profit than the Jeweled Damask Patches.
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Gleam of sentience is pretty good to eat all of what i produce daily + princess for the extra bloodstone.
How are yall outpacing all the gobblers. That blows mind.
Can't speak for anyone else, but in my case: degenerate amounts of farming
I'm not an artificer or huntsman, so I can't make this stuff??
Yeah, some recipes are locked to specific crafts.
You can change your professions around for a slight fee, without losing progress in the ones you "unlearned" though. You can then swap back later for that same fee again. Or level it up on an alt.
ummm am i missing something here? all of these will leave you with a loss. lets take the toxic sharpening stones for example. Just the 3 Crystalline Dust has a TP value of 33s, whereas the toxic sharpening stone that you use the dust to make only has a TP value of 7s if you slow sell it. how at all are these good crafting options? Same goes with the maintenance oil, its worth 5s on the TP but costs 50s worth of mats to craft.... ?????????
After the video got picked up by the algorithm and viewed by a lot of people, the profitability took a nosedive. So it's one to keep in mind in case things ever change, but for now sadly not worth the effort.
Oooo definately gonna be using the recipies for the empjemeral shards and bloodstone dust as I would acually be using those items a lot. Wouldn't even need to sell them on the tp.
I have no idea what to do with eternal ice shards thou. I get too many too quickly and I'll probably burn my karma to 0 if I convert all of it to LS4 mats, and I have all legendary trinkets. Got all recipes too.
Yeah, sadly Ice Shards are tied to karma to cash out on them. I've been planning a video around them to offer people alternative conversions than simply the shipments. Need to finish doing the math to make sure I'm not giving the wrong advice on that one though.
Slight edit: I'll also make a karma farm video at some point :-)
Thanks for making my toxic focussing crystals cheaper
Anything to do with auric dust? Just deleted a few stacks
Not directly, but there is a way to at least get a decent amount of gold out of Auric Dust.
If you combine those with Obsidian Shards, Bottles of Airship OIl and Ley Line Sparks into Fulgurite, you can make Jeweled Damask Patches and Jeweled Deldrimor Steel Plated Dowels.
The Jeweled Damask Patches sell for almost double the value of the non-jeweled versions.
@@phandrel Thanks for the reply! I hate the idea of any mats going to waste even if it's not super efficient.
Thank you for the video, it was well made :D
Do you know How the profit from this method compare to the sentient converters?
According to [fast] farming, the Gleam of Sentience is about 97 silver profit (fast.farming-community.eu/open-world/converters) and they do split it evenly between the 3 sentient convertors that require T7 mats (35.5 silver each).
To compare to the methods described in the video, we would need to craft 15 of each of the toxic utilities so that we can use 300 empyreal fragments, 300 bloodstone dust and 300 dragonite ore total. This will allow us for a somewhat 1 on 1 comparison, although it's not a perfect method.
If we make 15 toxic focusing crystals and 15 toxic maintenance oils, our profit is 1g25s, which is better than the convertor. Toxic Sharpening Stones leaves us at a slight deficit.
So if you want to truly optimise: I would say to only cash in on the Sentient Anomaly (Bloodstone Dust + Dragonite Ore) and use the other T7 mats for crafting toxic utilities.
@@phandrel then I’m gonna have to keep grindind it
I'm not interested in crafting in this game - is there any use for these items for me or am I good to just delete them?
They are needed for crafted ascended armour, too, but even that you could get through strikes, raids, fractals, wvw.
You can hang on to a decent amount for the different gobblers, though. That way, you get a few free unid gears per day.
@@phandrel Thanks for the reply and the info! Much appreciated. I've got a full set of ascended gear from various things and I don't play enough that I'm fussed about multiple sets for different builds and things like that (I'm basically just playing through the story with friends). Also subscribed since its always nice to have a channel with good videos who also responds to comments! :)
Is it worth it to buy globs of ectos on the TP to salvage, or should I only salvage from equipment drops instead of selling them?
According to the [fast] farming website, it currently isn't worth to do so with a Copper-Fed Salvage O Matic (or equivalent kit). Runecrafter's it's slightly worth and Silver-fed is a profit going for dust.
fast.farming-community.eu/salvaging/salvageables you can check it here, if you type Glob of Ectoplasm in the search box.
If you are not maxed out on luck yet, salvaging ectos also yields an ungodly amount of luck. It definitely helped me max out my luck really fast.
As for salvaging from items: make sure you use the proper kits/salvage o matics for them as well to optimise your profits. If not, selling greens and yellows on the TP might turn out more profitable. If there's enough interest, I can definitely make a video on that topic.
@@phandrel Thanks. I don't have any mat eaters or salvage o matics. Most greens and yellows I just sell on the TP, but when I don't, I use mystic or BL salvage kits (I have tons of both). I go back and forth on salvaging for ectos versus selling and buying ectos when I need them, and usually default to the latter due to lack of immediate need.
My conservative gambler brain tries to tell me: buy only what you need and sell the rest rather than stock up for something you don't think you'll ever need.
@@Draelos Black Lion Salvage Kits are definitely worth using on Exotics. You will get out the rune/sigil and still get the salvage materials.
As for sell vs salvage, it's a bit of a toss up. Technically, if you don't need the materials and can dedicate the resources elsewhere, selling would be preferable.
But if you eventually need the materials, selling is not always the best option because you lose 15% with the Trading Post Taxes.
Personally I try to strike a bit of a balance between both.
@@phandrel Nice! Thanks for the advice!
I have deleted almost 30k individually all 3 materials
That'd have been some nice pocket change 😲
How do people even get them to that amount. I keep running out of them 😅
I used to have an abundance of them and then started crafting ascended armor sets for all of my characters. This led to me having to farm a massive amount of them. Now I constantly run out because I make the recipes :P
@@phandrel i use them for herta gleams and others
Easiest way with empyreal fragments-toxic focusing crystal,its free money(if you completing 98 cm),but anyway good prophit if not
Recipe for toxic oil isn't going for a few silver - it goes for like 15 gold on my server, lol :D.
It was a few before my video :( - if you don't have it yet, buy the Torn Pages from the Pact Supply Network Agent for 7,777 Karma and you'll eventually unlock it without paying the TP price :)
Wonderful information , appreciate this video .
At this point I have alts that have full inventories of bloodstone dust
Thanks a lot! I got the gizmos to convert 25 of each but sometimes I lack some and have so many of one and throw them away.
There are two relevant gobblers for each type of ascended material, so you can convert 450-600 into gifts every day once you have them. If you farm the same content over and over and get heaps of the same material every day that might not be enough, but for most players it should be the easiest solution.
I only started looking into this after I deleted stacks and stacks of Empyreal Fragments. Still feel the pain.
Artificer is no longer able to craft these items with ascended materials.
A lot changed since I posted this video, I'm planning to make an update addressing some of my published recipes soon :)
Also thinking of a way to let everyone follow up on profitability through some sheet or site, but that is a longer term goal
You already lose gold on the Toxic Maintainence Oil, but the Toxic Focusing Crystal is big profit. Recipe costs 28 gp on Trading Post, but it will pay for itself fairly quickly. Dragonite Ore is garbage right now - just delete.
No! I will delete them and you will love it! 😬
watching this as i deleted 2k bloodstone xD
Me sitting here with stacks upon stacks and no idea what a gobbler is
There are certain gizmos you can unlock through various achievements which will "gobble up" a lot of excess materials. You can find a full list here: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Converter
I made sort of an update to this video, as well as a few others - since some things have changed since then :) ua-cam.com/video/MEZEBBaPfUE/v-deo.html
@@phandrel Thank you, though after looking at the rewards i'm not sure it's "worth it". The Bloodstone Brick seems like the only decent use for it.
On the other hand i explored the uses for the Dust and it seems there's some Bloodstone Fen and Dragon's End zone unlocks i can do with that.
@@gokkiyoutube Yeah, the main goldmaker of the 3 ascended materials are empyreal fragments, when it comes to crafting. They are quite valuable once you get the gobblers, though. They're a decent source of unidentified gear.
I just craft it all up on ingots, this costs gold but it satisfies the hoarder..... with 2500 bank stack size you can do this for a long time ^^
I like the look of your shark rat. Nice
Annnnd just like that, Toxic Maintenance Oil is no longer worth crafting, making it better to just destroy bloodstone again. Dragonite has always been garbage and should be thrown out too. Emp frags for focusing crystals are the only worthwhile craft.
As for the eaters, they're noob traps. Too much clicking for too little gain (far too many garbage items that you can't quickly salvage or vendor away). If you value your time/sanity, you shouldn't bother with them.
This is definitely a factor. Translated into simpler terms - the time you spend clicking the gobblers you can spend playing the game and making probably more profit.
@@PetrSUsername And having more fun!
I hate these 3 items and been looking for options to refine them but im not the best at crafting.
If you want to start off with one, the Empyreal fragments will pay off nicely :-)
@@phandrel more than money, I want a real use for those materials to turn into other materials to be used for crafting legendaries or something. My main focus is not money because I use gems.
@@miguelmolano6611 It would be great if ANet ever revisited some of the materials such as these. But in the meantime we have to make do with what the game allows us.
Don't tell me what to do.
Actually the information is wrong as it seems. Crafting 5 maintenance oil costs about 50s, and selling 5 gives you 34s. A single one is 6s80c
Keep in mind this was a couple of weeks ago. Prices kind of changed heavily since the video was published.
@@phandrel Oh right, the price for Toxic Maintenance Oil has dropped by 90%
@@dasKeks28 When the video came out, it was around 74s/5, with a crafting cost of 56s. But yeah, that opportunity is kind of out of the market for now. Let's see what happens to the prices going forward.
Cant understand anything how to use them?
When you double click the treasure maps, you get a special action key that you can press and will guide you to the right location. Ideally, you only farm for the buried treasures during the "Search for the Buried Treasure" event, as those chests contain the more valuable items.
Aww snap fam, i rly have been deleting gold 😳💸 my old default method for years was just to refine them into the higher crafting tier bricks/stars/crystals but farming obsi shards from the one orr event is a bit of a pain too. I can play every profession except the trading post baron lol
Nice option, thanks for info.
But
If more people start to craft and sell these items, price will drop significantly, resulting in near to 0 profit from crafting these, so you dont want to "hope that more and more people will catch on to these recipes" :D
I appreciate the info but atm recipes #1 & 2 are no longer profitable; recipe #3 costs 24g at tp so you gotta craft 60 times with a .4g profit/per (spend 6,000 empyrial frags) and only after this "small investment" the thing will start to be profitable...
Yeah someone (or multiple people) sadly bought out the recipes on t he trading post. As I mentioned in the pinned comment, you can still unlock it through the Pact Supply Network Agents for 7,777 karma. It's a bit RNG to unlock it that way, but it shouldn't take more than a couple of days and at least you're not paying 20+ gold that way.
@@phandrel thank you, that was a great reminder that I can get from Pact Supply. I'll start checking them agents everyday for that recipe.
But im trying to finish the story !
Story first, gold later!
Rip deleted a stack of the first one lol
I just trashed over 7k bloodstone dust then found this video 🗿
If it's any consolation, Empyreal Fragments are worth the most :)
Appreciate the tips. Thank you.
No disrespect (throws a stack) it is a nice video (throws another stack) these just come too fast from wvw (throws 3 more stacks). I want bag freedom for the valuable drops from my kills in wvw (switches to other character to throw 3 more stacks). Thanks for video though just faster to throw it 😅
Only realized that the throw a stack meant on the second one :D
there is a good chance this video has an impact on the TP and the profit margins for these items melt down like ice in the sunshine
I truly hope not and if it does, let's hope it evens out at some point again.
A solid alternative would be the magnanimous versions in that case, which use Fire Orchid Blooms. Because these are account bound as well and the TP (over time) tends to pay off for account bound materials.
I do mostly pvp, so I can only delete all this stuff.
Could be worth crafting the empyreal fragments into toxic focusing crystals, those are still worth quite a hefty profit.
@@phandrel That requires Artificer 450, eh? Something I don't have.
brb gonna go delete my gold
Ok, now tell me what the hell to do with 3000 mihtril ingots. XD
you can easily spend them if you try to craft legendary weapon ))
As @OneHalf said, crafting 1 gen 2 legendary and they'll just disappear.
Other things I like are the Empty Keg (cooking) if you have a lot of flax and I personally also spend a hefty amount making mithril earrings to convert to research notes.
Thx... guess i'll empty my two thief "banker" character's inventory now (don't judge :) )...
If you made aurora you get a a converter wich will eat trough all of those with ease.. 0 costs, you just open bags / salvage /sell
How does it work?
3 Piles of Crytalline Dust worth 48.15s + 5 Pristine Toxic Spore Samples 33.2s = 81.35s
The sold 5 Toxic Maintenance Oil worth 46.85s -15% = 39.82s. So where comes the profit in the picture?
If you listen to this guy, you can burn gold easier, than pulling Bloodstone Dust out of the inventory
Prices changed since posting this 8 months ago, you can find an updated version here: ua-cam.com/video/MEZEBBaPfUE/v-deo.html
@@phandrel Thanks, i m going to check it. But, this time, I'll start with calculation ;)
@@ereshkigalis Awesome :) it's good to be critical, esp with these videos. Sadly, I can't control what happens on the TP, and this video kinda caught me off guard (I had 50 odd views when I made this), with some people rushing the TP to buy out certain recipes.
I try to focus more on method nowadays, I also sometimes post some updates in my discord :)
I dont even open bags. Encumbered 4life!
Thanks a lot!!
ty 4 the info
yea profit right ... but the idea of cooking for plebs you see after killing all these noobs i had a cramp so that might be hard😎
Interesting Information!
empyreal fragments is the only mat thats isnt useless out of those 3. the other 2 are useless af and you wont sell anything from those crafts
But then I have to level up crafting... gross! xD
reaaaaallly thx
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recipe is 9gold not a couple of silver and you make zero profit making these unless you have toxic spore samples somehow ...waste of time you can make way more gold doing something else
The prices of the recipes sadly skyrocketed since my video: Toxic maintenance oil recipe went up 1,700%, Toxic Focusing crystal recipe went up 800%. The spread between buy and sell is at a ridiculous level too, so I'm assuming someone with a lot of liquidity bought out all the recipes and is trying to capitalize on this.
Toxic Focusing crystals are still 22-29 silver profit (depending on if you insta sell or list) when putting in buy orders for crystalline dust + pristine toxic spore samples. So I wouldn't say you can't make money off of this anymore.
As for making gold with something else. That'll always be the case regardless of what content is in a video. There's higher gph solo farms, there's selling achievements, etc. but those don't get rid of the T7 materials. I typically craft these when we are forming groups w/ our guild.
just delete Piles of Bloodstone Dust & Dragonite Ore, useless mats unless you like crafting for loss of profit
Thanks a lot
not worth it tbh
Don't listen to this video. The ammount of gold and time you waste making these itens just don't worth it. Just delete it and thats it. I made Maldrew and loose much more than the pathetic itens she gives in exchange
Very cool video, but it seems that your video completely crashed the market for these items hahaha it isn't so worth it anymore
I never thought I'd have the power to tank a market through a video, it's still unreal the prices are where they are.
thanks!
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Lol imagine making 25 copper per bloodstone... I'll still just trash mine 😂