If I'm being honest this was a bit agonizing to finish, so I hope it's useful for people. I can make a video about fractal farms if people really want to see that, but either way I've got a bunch of ideas for other videos that will hopefully be much easier to make than this was. Happy farming!
I loved it man! I bet it took alot of time and effort. I really appreciate you putting out an up to date gold farming guide! I also love how you explain how we can make to most out of our farm. Thank you! Cant wait to get home today and try these out!
It's really cool when new youtubers making professional quality content from the start. IDK how u do it, but it feel's like u doing it for years! Keep it up!
That's very flattering. There's definitely much better editors out there than me, but I figure if I'm going to make something I might as well make it of an acceptable quality.
Extremely honest, straightforward guide that's friendly to beginners but still goes into enough detail to actually be useful! Definitely interested in seeing something similar for fractal gold farms.
I absolutely love the Auric runs. Earning so many recipes doing that. The Baubles confused me at first believing they were of some importance later on. As for Fractals, I need to get around to figuring out how to best raise my resistance efficiently (if that's even an option) Also need to get around to earning better equip that supports agony resistance tokens.
Full armor, weapons, and trinkets with the rings infused and attuned gives you enough slots to reach the maximum AR needed for fractals, if you infuse all the slots with +9s. Edit: Fractal farming and Daily fractals, which is what 99.99% of people mean when they say "fractals" are 2 completely different things.
I don't fully agree on how to make profit of Rare and Exotic, I noticed it is way better to open the Rare obviously but NOT list it on the TP unless you can sell it for more than 1 Ectoplasm value, then if you can't sell it for 1 Ecto then better to Salvage, at the end the profit on Ectos will be way better than simply listing them. Obviously if the listed item on the TP has more value than 1 Ecto then list it and sell it there.
For rares that's going to happen with greatswords and occasionally swords if you can be bothered to filter those out. At current prices, you'd have to decide if that much effort is worth it to you. Exotic armor will be primarily valued based on what rune it has in it or sometimes slightly higher. For exotic armor it tends to really only be worthwhile to salvage if you have black lion kits or an extractor to get the runes out. I'd actually be pretty impressed if you pulled out an exotic piece of armor worth salvaging with silverfed. Exotic weapons can be used to forge precursors and roll for Mystic infusions so you'll pretty much never see those drop low enough to be worth salvaging. If you wanted to use the Ecto vs. Gear price system a lot of players tend to use, you can. But the average ectos per salvage is 0.85 with silverfed and the materials are sometimes higher or lower than that other 0.15 so it can get pretty complicated to break that down without tons of salvage data. There's actually multiple methods that are sometimes better than your system and the one I showed, but the effort or data required to use them and even to know when to is much too high for most players to bother.
0:46 I think I needed to hear that, thanks man. I just started on gw2 and previously had 2k hours on eso. One of the things that made me quit eso was just farming stuff I hated doing and I ended up tiring and stressing myself out on that game for one particular farm. Hearing you say that just clicked in my head on what I’ve done in the past and don’t plan to take this game too seriously like eso, because I’m honestly loving this game. Thanks for the guide man one of the best out there.
Glad to hear it. I did some time in Craglorn I know how it gets. Luckily there's a good variety of farms in this game that give decent gold and they all involve actually killing stuff. Lots of passive gold out there once you learn how to use everything you get.
I bought 2 mount's skins only with drizzlewood coast even not knowing the proper way of doing it with magic booster (I am very casual player and I am diving deep on the game now) is a good map to farm
This is by far the most informative video on gold making I've seen. Not just the standard - Farm maps, do fractals = get rich. You actually break things down about boosters, maps, refining mats, etc. All things I was unaware of to help increase gold income. Well done and thank you for the video.
That overflow discord is very familiar i used to listen to a guy there doing lectures of gold farming back when all we had to do was camp istan palawadan and greathall hhahaa good times!
The first point about doing events that are fun for you, is the most important and best advice I've ever seen in any gold making video for GW2, so mad props for pointing that out in the beginning. You've earned a new Sub for that, and now I'll continue to watch the rest of the video. Edit: Now that I've watched the entire video, I think that this might be the BEST gold making video for GW2 that I've ever seen! That's coming from a 9-1/2 year veteran of GW2 who has watched just about every GW2 content creator for years. Thanks for all of the great info (even though I knew most of it), and the clear way in which you presented it. Looking forward to watching more of your GW2 content.
As a dumb new player I'm always amazed how much profit a veteran can make. I came from WoW and I mostly run bauble farms and fractals as I used to get raw gold in WoW.
The gold-making in this game can get as simple or complicated as you want to make it. Obviously, the more you put in, the more you'll get out. I certainly wouldn't call anyone dumb for not understanding it all though, as it can get pretty convoluted if you get really into the weeds with it. Prople are definitely used to raw gold from other MMOs, but learning to navigate the value held in materials is how the richest players get the richest in Guild Wars 2. More videos on those concepts in the future...
@@abree107Oh. Thank you for the detailed answer. As you said it's a real complex game and I only reached the 15-20 gold / hour with raw gold input. For a year I almost everytime sold unid gears on instasell on tp when someone said I shouldn't do that. I appreciate your feedback and this video helps me a lot to understand some of my mistakes.
@@SerHaunted The waystation isn't really necessary, but the special action ability you can buy from it can help with tagging mobs. Clicking on the blue circles for territory you've taken is how you airdrop to different places. I did neglect to mention in the video that you need to be on the ground and out of combat to do so. It didn't used to be that way, but they changed it.
i did the silverwaste farm for almost 2 hours and only got 14,5gold. i must have done something horribly wron (i had a bag opener char) and i dont know what =/
Another great farm is the MCD meta, you simply prepare some food for customers, but the food is already half finished so its easy. Then you take your earnings each month and buy gems with it and convert it to gold.
Just got back into GW2 two days ago. Immediately started thinking I needed to beef up strategies to get gold. Subscribed! Good information and presentation.
Thank you! Your video is one of the few that goes into very specific step by steps of making gold, not just gives a vague "Everything can make gold" statement and proceeding to list a bunch of things. No, instead you point specifically to farms, the steps these entailed, and tips for optimizing your farming experience. This is by far the most straightforward and transparent video on money making in Guild Wars 2 I have seen. If I could Give you a suggestion, it would be really cool to see a video where you run one of these farms, maybe spend an hour on it (you could fast forward the farming footage), then show and talk us through how you sift through the loot to optimize your profits. I find that I'm doing something wrong when it comes to optimizing my money making once I obtain the loot. Maybe I'm selling the wrong items, maybe I'm not selling some I should. Specifics on this would be very helpful.
Ranked PVP during seasons (which are pretty well constant these days) gives a boatload of raw gold plus reward track progress. It's not for everyone but it's certainly rewarding
This. Nobody says anything about pvp, after evey game you get 15s or 30s, every point towards main chest in ranked gives 1.5g and end point gives 20g not to mention reward track mats you get and also you can sell shards of glory for around 4-5g a stack if you dont want to make any ascened or legendary pvp armor. Even if you see yourself as bad in pvp you just make a tanky build for class you like, like staff well necro and just place aoe on points buffing and debufing. Make your own fun builds to troll people and earn nice raw gold by doing it.
Hey necros (reapers specifically) my build for farming is a reaper with blood n death minion mastery + greatsword. Makes for GREAT survivability. Check Metabattle if you want more condi-like builds/ other things for necros and all other classes. Trust me, necro is GREAT for farming! Guardian has done me some good as well, I haven't branched out much there but would recommend either a torch firey vanilla build or a dragon hunter. Happy farming mates ^^
I think its also important to note with Drizzlewood that you should have volatile magic gathering tools while doing it, if you gather all the war supplies dropped, you will end up with quite a bit of volatile magic from it, magic you can use to buy mats to sell for more profit.
I've played drizzlewood meta countless of time and never ever got the ''united legions supply drop '' i have all ep's :( can someones help me here ?!/:
They only occur on the south side and you need at least 30% participation to get them so if you're waiting for the meta boss fight then you won't get them. Beyond that if you aren't getting them for the first ~60 minutes of each map I'd send a ticket to ArenaNet.
@@abree107 oh i mostly wait until my squad start geting close to the final boss and then i join, i will try from the begining this time , thanks for reply.
3 out of 4 are higher value once refined for both T5 and T6. Silk and gossamer are the exceptions and the losses on those are smaller than gains on some of the others. I don't have a spreadsheet on me right now to check the others specifically, but over the long term refined tends to be worth more than unrefined. In some cases the difference is high enough to where you can make gold buying raw mats, refining, and relisting. Consider the math checked.
I like how these gold per hour numbers are more realistic with pros and cons discussed , unlike the fast farming website which lists literally the champ train at the end of dragonfall as its own event at 50 gold per hour, leading redditors across the globe to go "omigawd you can just stand and press 1 in green gear in openworld to get more/same gold/hour as fractal cms+t4s". and trying to talk to these people is incredibly frustrating
Yeah fast benchmark is more of a speedrun benchmark while 99% pugs have little to no critical thinking. One time I was following a commander in Dragonfall and he kept bragging on how fast his train goes, generating over 45gph, while he doesn't even know the speedrun route during meta. :\ Anyway, fast website has changed its benchmark to LFG gph, but then again EU and NA have very different pug culture.
Unfortunately, that's the one part of the [Fast] website I don't recommend because the times are either cherrypicked or rounded inappropriately and the data sets are miniscule. They also don't account for boosters and different levels of player farming skill. Peureki's website also has low sample size for some farms and shows some optimistic hourly rates on others, but he also records data without boosters, the times are more accurate, and he values the spirit shards based on full T5->T6 trophy conversions which is really low nowadays. So the hourly profit is a lot more reasonable as a result and I'd recommend his site over [Fast] for open world farms.
I'm completely useless at farming, so this is very helpful content to me. So thanks for putting in the work. Will definitely be looking out for a Fractal farming guide if you decide to do one. It's the main activity I do in GW2 since returning recently, but I suck at making money from it.
Leviathan Farming is the most consistent farm for EoD right now, but there's no telling when it will stop being worthwhile. Either ArenaNet can change things or the Chunk of Ancient Ambergris price will drop too low for it to be worth doing. If you're looking for a good time, I'd recommend the Dragon's End meta. A lot of people enjoy that one. There's a couple lovely commanders for it in the Overflow Trading Company Discord that give directions and help you through your first time. If you're able to make it to one of the pre-reset runs and join voice chat I'd suggest that, but Dragon's End is more of a daily thing. Weirdly enough the only repeatable farm we got with EoD was an unintended one...
Well the good news is 1 video made by some rando on the internet can't crash every major item in the game. It would be a different story if we were only talking about leviathan farm, which basically only drops 1 item. The farms covered in this video drop too many different things for them to be crashed by such a small influence. The bad news is that the influx of players from Steam release and the lack of adequate new item sinks are much larger influences and have resulted in a handful of price drops across the more common materials. The somewhere-in-between news is that at least if all items have dropped in price, then it doesn't really matter. You might make less per hour, but you'll need less gold to get what you want, so the relative effect is the same. Those price drops will also likely be somewhat countered whenever Anet decides to add new sinks. You're unlikely to hit the top end of those gold ranges at the moment, but all of the information in the video is still current and will still be current until the game's activity fizzles out. I don't do this for a living and so there's no incentive for me to re-release the same video every year with only 5% of it being different. It was made with longevity in mind and the only reason I'll release another video about open-world farming in the future is to cover new releases.
I've tried just about every gold-making method that's legal in the game except for raidselling and pretending to be a girl in LA map chat (future video???) so I've just accumulated a lot from all that. There's a lot higher gold per hour methods once you have gold and understand how to use it to make more, which will all be covered at some point in the future. Beyond that, I also am pretty basic when it comes to fashion wars, as you may well see on my ranger with her Twilight Arbor skins from 2013. I have the few legendary skins I want and at this point the only uses I have planned for my gold include account upgrade sales and buying the SAB mount skins if ArenaNet ever decides they want to pop another one out and get some easy money.
i never understand how one gets 20/30g on a map or even 10g. i mean when i farm (im purely into WvW since very start) ones every 6 months or so for few weeks cus i burned out from WvW i do not even get close to get 5g a day :D, i mean i dont rly care about the gold but u guys just sell every single thing u get including mats i suppose? i just bank everything and crush all gear i get beside exotic, i guess thats why i barely make any gold? :D
The next video actually covers the 3 main ways we value gold and why you're having the problem you're having. I've had covid so my voice wasn't really up to recording, but I think it'll still be done this weekend. The TLDR is, saving money = making money and you're choosing to keep the mats and currencies and save gold in the future. It doesn't mean you're not making gold, it just means you've got yourself a bit of a reinvestment habit. For most mats you actually save more by Hoarding them than you would make by selling them, so your profit may actually be higher than most people's.
You get more profit from processing them yourself. You can basically think of it this way: -someone else is buying those gears -that someone makes gold from processing it and selling the result even though they're taxed 15% on the result -you're getting 85% of what they pay when you sell it to them because of the tax, so at minimum you can make that 15% more by doing the processing yourself
These videos are amazing. At least finally I understood what to do in silverwaste. But I still dont understand this gold per hour thing. Does that value correspond to the value of items? Which items should we sell? Because after 1 hour I just made 1 gold from the run. But of course I got lot of items. But dont know what to do with em.
Unidentified gear is probably a big portion of that, which is covered in part by this video and by another on my channel. For the rest of the materials, you can sell them if you want, but often your profit will expand if you refine them and/or craft useful items out of them. Legendary Crafting is a reliable method, but obviously takes a long time to finish and be able to sell. There's a lot of other profitable items to craft and throw on the TP, but you have to look around and find them. I also have a crafting video, but if that feels like something you don't want to do, you can always just refine and sell the materials as is.
How about adding info on how to get to those maps. Start on world map and show where the map is in relation to the world. Also add any requirements to get to those maps. If you need to do a particular story to get access to the map etc!!!
@@abree107 Yes, or simply select the story part that gives you access to that map and skip the early parts. But you still need to know what you need to do to get access. Is access via a particular story, and expac, or something else. Even just pointing out the area on the world map would help. Because you could find it on your world map and know if you had a waypoint unlocked to go to it, or if you had to do something else!
Something I haven't seen any farming video mention, is that tagging mobs is great if you have the autoloot mastery. If not, just tagging them isn't enough because you need to actually be there to loot the body to make the money. I've come to the conclusion that if you want to farm gold, you need to have it and every farming video I've seen by anyone assumes you have it.
That's true, I did neglect to mention it. Not having autoloot would probably have some impact depending on the farm (high for DWC/SW; little impact for dragonfall). Some have plenty of time to loot after and some don't. AoE loot settings should offset most of the issue and there are some shorter range tagging builds that let you deal with that as well, but I also didn't mention those. It's not necessary to have autoloot, but it probably does push you to the lower end of the ranges given for most of the farms.
farm what you enjoy is a good point, when i farm, i wanna do it semi afk/ brain afk. i dont wanna rush anything or try to be effective and timely. when i farm, i put a series on my second monitor and just play the game with eyes glance or via periphiral vision. thus i always stuck to wood and ore farm with glyphs, the right map, the right tour and its like 1,5g per character every 5 minutes. doing something where i have to follow a train, watch out to not get down or miss a jump and hit as many mobs as i can,, feels like work, because it demands constant focus. btw, i only dismantle blue unidentified gear because what you get depends on luck, selling green and yellow, gives you a fixed prices. if you sell 250 yellows for 40g, but only get 37g trhough ectos and raw mats, its minus. and iam the kind of person, that can salvage 250 yellows and only get 80 ectos. but the thing is: luck beats all farming and i hate it^^ ive done the chak meta around 500 times give or take over the years and got nothing, on the other hand, theres a good friend, doing it twice per week most of the time and he gets 2 drops within 40 tries apart, thats 2 infusion in one month or 20.000 gold, you cant compete against that.
The end game can be a lot of things. You don't need to farm gold if you don't want to. Gearing characters and getting griffon are the 2 main costs most players incur, but the rest of it is completely optional. Exploring the map, doing open world events, playing the story, playing PvP, and doing most achievements all do not require any gold. WvW and instanced content builds don't require much gold (except fractals). Guild Wars 2 end-game is largely about choice and some people enjoy working on large cost shiny items. This is for those people. You make plenty of gold to enjoy the game without ever needing to "grind".
Always good to have options when you get bored, but I usually stick to my dear RIBA, besides it also have a lottery ticket chance with the Queen Bee Infusion :3
That's up to you. If I were selling stacks and stacks of the item, I would. You could also take a look at GW2BLTC.com to see if the price regularly goes higher and is just at a low currently. If it typically hovers 10c higher, you'd be getting 25s more per stack if you listed higher, which adds up over time.
Great farming summary, thank you! I would like to add one point to all LW4 farms (mainly DragonFall) - karmic retribution is a must. It forces mobs to drop volatile magic, which is pretty valuable. And there are tons, tons of mobs in most LW4 metas :) 1st level of karmic retribution is enough.
So what are the best ways to gain gold without having to join a group, for those of us not in a guild ? I avoid groups because I hate the toxic, elitist micromanaging in them.
None of these require joining a guild, and none of them require actually joining a squad. You'll just not be getting information from a commander if you choose to not join the squad. Drizzlewood coast is a good one for not needing a commander and not joining a squad. You've also got all of the solo farms on Peureki's website and the [Fast] website as alternatives. To be honest it just sounds like you joined the wrong guild or a Dragon's End map soon after EoD and had a poor experience. Most guilds are super super chill and most commanders will just leave you to your own devices if you don't want to run with them.
I gotta admit, after watching your whole playlist, I really hate how gold works in this game...I didn't know I'd need a degree in finance to make gold in an MMO...as a solo player, I'd love to see some videos on some of those solo farm routes mentioned on the websites you linked...I will definitely be attempting them when I get there with my character but it's a bit vague just reading it on the website...thanks for the great info anyway!
Loved this video, added it to my fav so I can come back to it, am definitely interested in a fractal farm guide! Also wondering how do you get your map to show in zones?
@@Senayoshy GW2TacO is the closest thing that would do something like that. It has a lot of functionality with map completion, node farming routes, achievement markers etc. But it doesn't do anything like splitting the map.
these are the best but I gotta give a shout out to the absolute worst gold farm, harvest temple cm which takes a couple dozen hours to do, very difficult and intense hours I might add, and for all this time you get a cool 8 gold (4 you could've gotten form normal mode up to you if that counts) and some profit shards a summoning stone and maybe a infusion or tonic if you're really lucky, temple of febe cm/lcm has similar time to reward ratio and you can argue about which is harder but they're both just as bad for gold farming
I've been looking for content to help me explain things to my new guild members. You give very clear explanations with a ton of extra resources. Thank you so much for this!
I've really only just come across your videos today but I'm super impressed with how well its formatted and the info is super easy to digest. thanks for making this!
I farmed unidentified gears at silverwaste and tried open bags at 54 lvl character but it doesnt give iron ore or other materials still gives mithril ore? do i miss something? pls help
Thank you for these, its like im rediscovering the game and actually making some progress in my wallet. The only thing im a bit confused about is, do i refine and sell everything i made in the runs per hour? Or stockpile up after like a week, refine then sell. most of the time ive been selling excess globs
Anything you will need for crafting in the future should be saved. The tax on the trading post can lead to brutal losses if you sell a material and then buy it back later. If you end up with stacks and stacks of mithril, it's probably not worth hoarding it all when you only need a small handful to keep up with daily mithrillium crafting and drizzlewood coast donations. On the other hand, ectos are something I'd not advise you to sell on the trading post. They have a lot of uses for end-game goals and it will cost a lot for you to buy them back in the future if you need them. If you fill up your material storage with ectos, I'd personally recommend pulling the stack(s) out and either putting them in your bank or on an alt character that you don't play and can use to store stuff. If you end up collecting a large amount of them (10 stacks?) and would rather have the gold, that's when I'd look into player-to-player trading. Getting 2g/stack more might not seem like a lot, but if you do it with 10 stacks then you're getting 20g more and that's an hour's worth of farming saved for significantly less than an hour in time spent. Batching tasks like that is just as good of a strategy to maximize the value of your time in-game as it is when you're doing something like multiple loads of laundry at once in real life. In most cases, doing things in larger quantities will save you time and make them more efficient. There's obviously storage considerations you'd have to make when deciding what's worth the hassle and what isn't. If you really want to maximize profit, one of the best things you can do is figure out what kinds of materials you get in large quantities and find profitable crafting recipes that you can make with them. Refining is a good fallback for many raw materials, but if you can find something even further to spend your materials on, you'll make more. If you're getting darksteel ingots from Drizzlewood Coast, use those to make deldrimor steel ingots instead of just selling them as is. If you're getting +1 agony infusions from fractals and can make a bit more if you convert them to +9 infusions first, do it. Generation 1 & 3 legendaries are popular ways to sink materials and currencies that you farm for a higher profit. They require a lot of different materials, so there's a lot of potential opportunities to save gold by farming them yourself and then increase your profit when you finish the legendary and sell it. Recipes and their profit margins change, so you do need to make sure you check prices occasionally instead of just blindly repeating the same thing over and over again, but if you can find a few options for each material, you can increase your yield by 10-20% fairly easily.
@@abree107 Thank you so much for this. I was reading around and this video and your response has been the most extensive by far. I'm having a blast farming around, which usually never happens in most MMO's these days. Keep up the content! Thanks again!
The sad truth from a profit perspective is they don't. Dragon's End is okayish if you can clear it every time. The rest are just really bad for profit. Do them if you need the account bound rewards for the gen 3 legendaries, not for profit.
In the description you say "Ignore the Top Table; None of it Sells" for the spirit shards. Last week I made Azureflame and it sold after a few days. Made 100g profit. Maybe I was lucky?
best gold per hour is aetherblade T4 as a fractal god. It's legit 60g+ per hour(hard coin value, not account value). It's close to a full year of daily fractals assuming you do CMs and recs every day. I farmed T4 fractals more than 1 month and did some CM(cleared everything and got something like 1K, 1K5 total ufe wich is not much) and I only have few augments and still short buying my first pot, I have enough fractal materials for the back but I think that fractal augments and pots are better first Aetherblade as a fractal god nets a vast amount of xp and karma, on tops of a meaningfull amount of ectoplams, fractal relics and encryptions, making it the actual best content to brute farm in the game. You really should have mentionned meteorites. Rose Quartz prices are pretty high, and it sells well, I even bought some at some points ^^' You forgot champion farming, an ok team gets a bit more than 20g/hour farming champions and obviously it gets bumped slightly factoring in daily rewards and daily discounts You also forgot Icebrood strikes Then there are the content that are daily but extremly good daily, things like Bjora marsh farm, chack + octo, etc...
I've been playing over a month, and not once have I seen a LWS4 train. And I'm lucky if there's a commander in Dragonfall. How do people find good groups?
The Overflow Trading Company discord pings for runs of various groups. That's where the LS4 train runs will be posted. Dragonfall isn't a 24/7 available farm, but if you check LFG every now and then, you can find maps pretty frequently. If I recall I checked LFG 3 times and got 2 active maps while making this video.
I absolutely HATE fractals, so running an hour of fractals would make me quit the game. A true nightmare 😂 love strikes and open world. Thank you for this great video 🙏
Good guide. I combine crafting and meta events for gold farm and have been successful doing that. I am casual and play open world and wvw exclusively. Working towards getting the beetle and the skyscale in the near future.
silly question, i dont understand how farm money makey works at all... when you say 10 or 20 or 30 gold per hour your mean, all i got from that farming i have to sell it ? wiithout processing any materials?
It values in the currencies and assumes you use basic boosters and a similar process for the loot that I gave in the beginning of this video. You're going to take a pretty sizable hit if you just dump everything on the trading post. If you're looking for more of a breakdown on what forms the gold can take, the beginning of my "How Gold Works" video has a breakdown of the different types of gold. It's not going to all show up in your wallet and unless you really need raw gold for some reason, it's better to hold onto materials for when you need them. Selling stuff and then needing to buy it back later ends up costing you a ton of gold.
I got banned in 2017 for changing countries and forgetting to remove my phone number and just now coming back and loved this vid. If you could make the fractal farming guide or solo farms guide it would be helpful as with a fresh account trying to re-acquire ascended gear it is quite painful.
If you've filled all the available mastery bars, you will gain a spirit shard every 254k experience. The value of spirit shards massively exceeds karma, they're more of a bottleneck for things like legendary crafting than karma is, and they're much harder to get in the quantities you need to do things with them. In almost any case, if you need spirit shards and karma for something (i.e. a legendary), the karma will sort itself out a decent bit quicker than the spirit shards. Another issue is that there's less ways to convert karma by itself into gold effectively. The Wintersday festival is one of the few easy opportunities and it still gives you a very small amount of gold. Finally, and perhaps I should have led with this, boosters don't work on fixed value rewards or consumables. For karma, a significant portion you receive will come from consumable items that give 500, 1000, 2000 etc. This is the case in a lot of the newer maps, but also the case in LS4/dragonfall/fractal farms if you have the karmic retributions. So your karma boosters only affect a minority of the karma you receive. The only real exception is Wintersday. Experience is almost always boostable. Experience from kills, events, and map completion objectives are all subject to be increased by boosters. The only major exceptions are writs of Experience from dailies and bonus xp from the fractal empowerment upgrades, which are both very niche situations. If you're not so concerned with gold and REALLY want a lot of karma for something (maybe if you're a new player and want every mini/tonic purchasable with karma from living world maps, which costs several million karma), you could always run karma bonuses instead. You'll just be trading a significant amount of gold in spirit shards for it over the long haul.
If I'm being honest this was a bit agonizing to finish, so I hope it's useful for people. I can make a video about fractal farms if people really want to see that, but either way I've got a bunch of ideas for other videos that will hopefully be much easier to make than this was. Happy farming!
I loved it man! I bet it took alot of time and effort. I really appreciate you putting out an up to date gold farming guide!
I also love how you explain how we can make to most out of our farm. Thank you! Cant wait to get home today and try these out!
Thank you for your effort to show us good ways to get gold
I cannot express how much i would appreciate a fractal farm guide
Pls fractal farms pls
Fractal farming you say? hmmm... I think I might know a guy :)
On behalf of the association for being bad at making money in MMO's, i would like to express my sincerest gratitude.
It's really cool when new youtubers making professional quality content from the start. IDK how u do it, but it feel's like u doing it for years! Keep it up!
That's very flattering. There's definitely much better editors out there than me, but I figure if I'm going to make something I might as well make it of an acceptable quality.
@@abree107 whole assing one thing is always admirable.
Extremely honest, straightforward guide that's friendly to beginners but still goes into enough detail to actually be useful! Definitely interested in seeing something similar for fractal gold farms.
I absolutely love the Auric runs. Earning so many recipes doing that. The Baubles confused me at first believing they were of some importance later on. As for Fractals, I need to get around to figuring out how to best raise my resistance efficiently (if that's even an option) Also need to get around to earning better equip that supports agony resistance tokens.
Full armor, weapons, and trinkets with the rings infused and attuned gives you enough slots to reach the maximum AR needed for fractals, if you infuse all the slots with +9s.
Edit: Fractal farming and Daily fractals, which is what 99.99% of people mean when they say "fractals" are 2 completely different things.
This was awesome, dude! Thanks so much! And I'd love a beginner guide to fractal farming :)
I don't fully agree on how to make profit of Rare and Exotic, I noticed it is way better to open the Rare obviously but NOT list it on the TP unless you can sell it for more than 1 Ectoplasm value, then if you can't sell it for 1 Ecto then better to Salvage, at the end the profit on Ectos will be way better than simply listing them. Obviously if the listed item on the TP has more value than 1 Ecto then list it and sell it there.
For rares that's going to happen with greatswords and occasionally swords if you can be bothered to filter those out. At current prices, you'd have to decide if that much effort is worth it to you. Exotic armor will be primarily valued based on what rune it has in it or sometimes slightly higher. For exotic armor it tends to really only be worthwhile to salvage if you have black lion kits or an extractor to get the runes out. I'd actually be pretty impressed if you pulled out an exotic piece of armor worth salvaging with silverfed. Exotic weapons can be used to forge precursors and roll for Mystic infusions so you'll pretty much never see those drop low enough to be worth salvaging. If you wanted to use the Ecto vs. Gear price system a lot of players tend to use, you can. But the average ectos per salvage is 0.85 with silverfed and the materials are sometimes higher or lower than that other 0.15 so it can get pretty complicated to break that down without tons of salvage data.
There's actually multiple methods that are sometimes better than your system and the one I showed, but the effort or data required to use them and even to know when to is much too high for most players to bother.
0:46 I think I needed to hear that, thanks man. I just started on gw2 and previously had 2k hours on eso. One of the things that made me quit eso was just farming stuff I hated doing and I ended up tiring and stressing myself out on that game for one particular farm. Hearing you say that just clicked in my head on what I’ve done in the past and don’t plan to take this game too seriously like eso, because I’m honestly loving this game. Thanks for the guide man one of the best out there.
Glad to hear it. I did some time in Craglorn I know how it gets. Luckily there's a good variety of farms in this game that give decent gold and they all involve actually killing stuff. Lots of passive gold out there once you learn how to use everything you get.
I bought 2 mount's skins only with drizzlewood coast even not knowing the proper way of doing it with magic booster (I am very casual player and I am diving deep on the game now)
is a good map to farm
This is by far the most informative video on gold making I've seen. Not just the standard - Farm maps, do fractals = get rich. You actually break things down about boosters, maps, refining mats, etc. All things I was unaware of to help increase gold income.
Well done and thank you for the video.
That overflow discord is very familiar i used to listen to a guy there doing lectures of gold farming back when all we had to do was camp istan palawadan and greathall hhahaa good times!
Drizzlewood has been the most fun to me, just at war always, it’s just the most fun for me.
The first point about doing events that are fun for you, is the most important and best advice I've ever seen in any gold making video for GW2, so mad props for pointing that out in the beginning. You've earned a new Sub for that, and now I'll continue to watch the rest of the video. Edit: Now that I've watched the entire video, I think that this might be the BEST gold making video for GW2 that I've ever seen! That's coming from a 9-1/2 year veteran of GW2 who has watched just about every GW2 content creator for years. Thanks for all of the great info (even though I knew most of it), and the clear way in which you presented it. Looking forward to watching more of your GW2 content.
This is the most well edited and organized video i've seen on gold farm metas , definetely helpful and easily done. SUBSCRIBED
this is hands down THE most helpful gold farm guide i've ever seen. instantly subbed, thank you for your help!
You forgot the most important DAILY ALT FARMING!
No, he didn't. He specifically said at the beginning of the video he was only going to be covering repeatable farms and that's exactly what he did.
Daily logins are covered in the daily video. I think maybe all that gold and those shiny infusions have obscured your vision?
as someone completely new to gold farming on gw2 i want to say thank you
As a dumb new player I'm always amazed how much profit a veteran can make. I came from WoW and I mostly run bauble farms and fractals as I used to get raw gold in WoW.
The gold-making in this game can get as simple or complicated as you want to make it. Obviously, the more you put in, the more you'll get out. I certainly wouldn't call anyone dumb for not understanding it all though, as it can get pretty convoluted if you get really into the weeds with it. Prople are definitely used to raw gold from other MMOs, but learning to navigate the value held in materials is how the richest players get the richest in Guild Wars 2. More videos on those concepts in the future...
@@abree107Oh. Thank you for the detailed answer. As you said it's a real complex game and I only reached the 15-20 gold / hour with raw gold input. For a year I almost everytime sold unid gears on instasell on tp when someone said I shouldn't do that. I appreciate your feedback and this video helps me a lot to understand some of my mistakes.
I've played since launch and I've never known how to make money. lol I FINALLY dug into my mat storage recently and looked up videos like this.
I'd love a guide on fractal farming, I'm so out of touch I rememer nothing, it'd be really useful xDD
Just to add for the drizzlewood coast farm. You need to be standing still on the ground to teleport to the different camps.
Do you need to use a waystation each time?
@@SerHaunted The waystation isn't really necessary, but the special action ability you can buy from it can help with tagging mobs. Clicking on the blue circles for territory you've taken is how you airdrop to different places. I did neglect to mention in the video that you need to be on the ground and out of combat to do so. It didn't used to be that way, but they changed it.
i did the silverwaste farm for almost 2 hours and only got 14,5gold. i must have done something horribly wron (i had a bag opener char) and i dont know what =/
Is that including the value of spirit shards?
Another great farm is the MCD meta, you simply prepare some food for customers, but the food is already half finished so its easy. Then you take your earnings each month and buy gems with it and convert it to gold.
i don't get the part where you recommend buying gems then converting them into gold...
everytime i check, i loose like 2/3 of my gold...
This is the most sussinct vid I've seen on this subject. Thanks, it's helped me understand the gold farming concept better than anything.
Awesome, this very clearly explains a lot of complicated shit that I had no idea about!
Great video! I don't really have anything to say about it, but hopefully this comment will help you get noticed by the algorithm
Wow my character is in your video! Never seen that before lol. Great guide tho!
Guild Wars 2 is just small enough for those sorts of things to happen. Sorry you're featured on medium graphics lol
As a new player I really enjoy fractals so if you can show me how to make gold doing it it would be awesome!
Hey just wanted to say really good video. hope you stick with it. You have a good cadence and the information was dense but well organized. keep it up
Saw this on Reddit last week and appreciate it :) very informative and easy to follow!
Just got back into GW2 two days ago. Immediately started thinking I needed to beef up strategies to get gold. Subscribed! Good information and presentation.
Thank you! Your video is one of the few that goes into very specific step by steps of making gold, not just gives a vague "Everything can make gold" statement and proceeding to list a bunch of things. No, instead you point specifically to farms, the steps these entailed, and tips for optimizing your farming experience. This is by far the most straightforward and transparent video on money making in Guild Wars 2 I have seen. If I could Give you a suggestion, it would be really cool to see a video where you run one of these farms, maybe spend an hour on it (you could fast forward the farming footage), then show and talk us through how you sift through the loot to optimize your profits. I find that I'm doing something wrong when it comes to optimizing my money making once I obtain the loot. Maybe I'm selling the wrong items, maybe I'm not selling some I should. Specifics on this would be very helpful.
Ranked PVP during seasons (which are pretty well constant these days) gives a boatload of raw gold plus reward track progress. It's not for everyone but it's certainly rewarding
This. Nobody says anything about pvp, after evey game you get 15s or 30s, every point towards main chest in ranked gives 1.5g and end point gives 20g not to mention reward track mats you get and also you can sell shards of glory for around 4-5g a stack if you dont want to make any ascened or legendary pvp armor.
Even if you see yourself as bad in pvp you just make a tanky build for class you like, like staff well necro and just place aoe on points buffing and debufing. Make your own fun builds to troll people and earn nice raw gold by doing it.
fractal farm for beginner guide plz!!!
great job on the video
Hey necros (reapers specifically) my build for farming is a reaper with blood n death minion mastery + greatsword. Makes for GREAT survivability. Check Metabattle if you want more condi-like builds/ other things for necros and all other classes. Trust me, necro is GREAT for farming! Guardian has done me some good as well, I haven't branched out much there but would recommend either a torch firey vanilla build or a dragon hunter. Happy farming mates ^^
I think its also important to note with Drizzlewood that you should have volatile magic gathering tools while doing it, if you gather all the war supplies dropped, you will end up with quite a bit of volatile magic from it, magic you can use to buy mats to sell for more profit.
Good glyphs for tools is always a plus, but also isn't factored into any of the farms as far as profit is concerned.
@@abree107 I just found the amount of volatile magic to be pretty good while doing that farm, so I thought I'd mention it 😁
@cypherdk85 it's a great addition to any farm :)
Wow this was so helpful...insta sub, and can't wait to see more videos in the future!
I've played drizzlewood meta countless of time and never ever got the ''united legions supply drop '' i have all ep's :( can someones help me here ?!/:
They only occur on the south side and you need at least 30% participation to get them so if you're waiting for the meta boss fight then you won't get them. Beyond that if you aren't getting them for the first ~60 minutes of each map I'd send a ticket to ArenaNet.
@@abree107 oh i mostly wait until my squad start geting close to the final boss and then i join, i will try from the begining this time , thanks for reply.
Most Refined materials are cheaper because you cant level up crafters with it. Check your math.
3 out of 4 are higher value once refined for both T5 and T6. Silk and gossamer are the exceptions and the losses on those are smaller than gains on some of the others. I don't have a spreadsheet on me right now to check the others specifically, but over the long term refined tends to be worth more than unrefined. In some cases the difference is high enough to where you can make gold buying raw mats, refining, and relisting. Consider the math checked.
Absolutely gorgeous! Both the quality of the video and information! Thank you!
Great guide!
Why do you want to farm so much EXP? when u have all the masteries unlocked, is there more to get from it?
Every time you fill your exp bar after that, you get a spirit shard, which is way more valuable than what the other boosts provide.
I like how these gold per hour numbers are more realistic with pros and cons discussed , unlike the fast farming website which lists literally the champ train at the end of dragonfall as its own event at 50 gold per hour, leading redditors across the globe to go "omigawd you can just stand and press 1 in green gear in openworld to get more/same gold/hour as fractal cms+t4s".
and trying to talk to these people is incredibly frustrating
Yeah fast benchmark is more of a speedrun benchmark while 99% pugs have little to no critical thinking.
One time I was following a commander in Dragonfall and he kept bragging on how fast his train goes, generating over 45gph, while he doesn't even know the speedrun route during meta. :\
Anyway, fast website has changed its benchmark to LFG gph, but then again EU and NA have very different pug culture.
Unfortunately, that's the one part of the [Fast] website I don't recommend because the times are either cherrypicked or rounded inappropriately and the data sets are miniscule. They also don't account for boosters and different levels of player farming skill. Peureki's website also has low sample size for some farms and shows some optimistic hourly rates on others, but he also records data without boosters, the times are more accurate, and he values the spirit shards based on full T5->T6 trophy conversions which is really low nowadays. So the hourly profit is a lot more reasonable as a result and I'd recommend his site over [Fast] for open world farms.
Absolutely precise, and high quality vid, thank you!
I'm completely useless at farming, so this is very helpful content to me. So thanks for putting in the work.
Will definitely be looking out for a Fractal farming guide if you decide to do one. It's the main activity I do in GW2 since returning recently, but I suck at making money from it.
Ty I didn't know for silverwastes, and I only have end of dragon expansion, btw do you have any eod farms that I can look up to, any videos ?
Leviathan Farming is the most consistent farm for EoD right now, but there's no telling when it will stop being worthwhile. Either ArenaNet can change things or the Chunk of Ancient Ambergris price will drop too low for it to be worth doing.
If you're looking for a good time, I'd recommend the Dragon's End meta. A lot of people enjoy that one. There's a couple lovely commanders for it in the Overflow Trading Company Discord that give directions and help you through your first time. If you're able to make it to one of the pre-reset runs and join voice chat I'd suggest that, but Dragon's End is more of a daily thing. Weirdly enough the only repeatable farm we got with EoD was an unintended one...
In my experience all these videos ever do is they wind up flooding the market with these items and then crash the farm.
Well the good news is 1 video made by some rando on the internet can't crash every major item in the game. It would be a different story if we were only talking about leviathan farm, which basically only drops 1 item. The farms covered in this video drop too many different things for them to be crashed by such a small influence.
The bad news is that the influx of players from Steam release and the lack of adequate new item sinks are much larger influences and have resulted in a handful of price drops across the more common materials.
The somewhere-in-between news is that at least if all items have dropped in price, then it doesn't really matter. You might make less per hour, but you'll need less gold to get what you want, so the relative effect is the same. Those price drops will also likely be somewhat countered whenever Anet decides to add new sinks.
You're unlikely to hit the top end of those gold ranges at the moment, but all of the information in the video is still current and will still be current until the game's activity fizzles out. I don't do this for a living and so there's no incentive for me to re-release the same video every year with only 5% of it being different. It was made with longevity in mind and the only reason I'll release another video about open-world farming in the future is to cover new releases.
How can you have 100k gold, jeez
I've tried just about every gold-making method that's legal in the game except for raidselling and pretending to be a girl in LA map chat (future video???) so I've just accumulated a lot from all that.
There's a lot higher gold per hour methods once you have gold and understand how to use it to make more, which will all be covered at some point in the future.
Beyond that, I also am pretty basic when it comes to fashion wars, as you may well see on my ranger with her Twilight Arbor skins from 2013. I have the few legendary skins I want and at this point the only uses I have planned for my gold include account upgrade sales and buying the SAB mount skins if ArenaNet ever decides they want to pop another one out and get some easy money.
@@abree107 get leggy gear pls
@@masteroftherealm7305 no u
Fractal video please
i never understand how one gets 20/30g on a map or even 10g.
i mean when i farm (im purely into WvW since very start) ones every 6 months or so for few weeks cus i burned out from WvW i do not even get close to get 5g a day :D, i mean i dont rly care about the gold but u guys just sell every single thing u get including mats i suppose? i just bank everything and crush all gear i get beside exotic, i guess thats why i barely make any gold? :D
The next video actually covers the 3 main ways we value gold and why you're having the problem you're having. I've had covid so my voice wasn't really up to recording, but I think it'll still be done this weekend.
The TLDR is, saving money = making money and you're choosing to keep the mats and currencies and save gold in the future. It doesn't mean you're not making gold, it just means you've got yourself a bit of a reinvestment habit. For most mats you actually save more by Hoarding them than you would make by selling them, so your profit may actually be higher than most people's.
@@abree107 ah ok, ye ones in a blue moon i craft 2/3 legendaries with very little gold being added from my own pocket so might be tru.
dumb question but why is it better to salvage unidentified gear instead of selling them to the trading post ?
You get more profit from processing them yourself. You can basically think of it this way:
-someone else is buying those gears
-that someone makes gold from processing it and selling the result even though they're taxed 15% on the result
-you're getting 85% of what they pay when you sell it to them because of the tax, so at minimum you can make that 15% more by doing the processing yourself
Great guide! I hope you make more videos in the future! :)
These videos are amazing. At least finally I understood what to do in silverwaste. But I still dont understand this gold per hour thing. Does that value correspond to the value of items? Which items should we sell? Because after 1 hour I just made 1 gold from the run. But of course I got lot of items. But dont know what to do with em.
Unidentified gear is probably a big portion of that, which is covered in part by this video and by another on my channel. For the rest of the materials, you can sell them if you want, but often your profit will expand if you refine them and/or craft useful items out of them. Legendary Crafting is a reliable method, but obviously takes a long time to finish and be able to sell. There's a lot of other profitable items to craft and throw on the TP, but you have to look around and find them. I also have a crafting video, but if that feels like something you don't want to do, you can always just refine and sell the materials as is.
@@abree107 thanks for the reply!
I really appreciate that each method has the estimated g/hr listed, thank you
How about adding info on how to get to those maps. Start on world map and show where the map is in relation to the world. Also add any requirements to get to those maps. If you need to do a particular story to get access to the map etc!!!
Most maps you can TP to friend to bypass the story, but you'll still need to own the story chapters.
@@abree107 Yes, or simply select the story part that gives you access to that map and skip the early parts. But you still need to know what you need to do to get access. Is access via a particular story, and expac, or something else. Even just pointing out the area on the world map would help. Because you could find it on your world map and know if you had a waypoint unlocked to go to it, or if you had to do something else!
Something I haven't seen any farming video mention, is that tagging mobs is great if you have the autoloot mastery. If not, just tagging them isn't enough because you need to actually be there to loot the body to make the money. I've come to the conclusion that if you want to farm gold, you need to have it and every farming video I've seen by anyone assumes you have it.
That's true, I did neglect to mention it. Not having autoloot would probably have some impact depending on the farm (high for DWC/SW; little impact for dragonfall). Some have plenty of time to loot after and some don't. AoE loot settings should offset most of the issue and there are some shorter range tagging builds that let you deal with that as well, but I also didn't mention those. It's not necessary to have autoloot, but it probably does push you to the lower end of the ranges given for most of the farms.
farm what you enjoy is a good point, when i farm, i wanna do it semi afk/ brain afk. i dont wanna rush anything or try to be effective and timely. when i farm, i put a series on my second monitor and just play the game with eyes glance or via periphiral vision. thus i always stuck to wood and ore farm with glyphs, the right map, the right tour and its like 1,5g per character every 5 minutes. doing something where i have to follow a train, watch out to not get down or miss a jump and hit as many mobs as i can,, feels like work, because it demands constant focus. btw, i only dismantle blue unidentified gear because what you get depends on luck, selling green and yellow, gives you a fixed prices. if you sell 250 yellows for 40g, but only get 37g trhough ectos and raw mats, its minus. and iam the kind of person, that can salvage 250 yellows and only get 80 ectos. but the thing is: luck beats all farming and i hate it^^ ive done the chak meta around 500 times give or take over the years and got nothing, on the other hand, theres a good friend, doing it twice per week most of the time and he gets 2 drops within 40 tries apart, thats 2 infusion in one month or 20.000 gold, you cant compete against that.
i think im realizing end game for GW2 is just farming gold... seems like its not a good incentive to keep playing if thats all it is
The end game can be a lot of things. You don't need to farm gold if you don't want to. Gearing characters and getting griffon are the 2 main costs most players incur, but the rest of it is completely optional. Exploring the map, doing open world events, playing the story, playing PvP, and doing most achievements all do not require any gold. WvW and instanced content builds don't require much gold (except fractals). Guild Wars 2 end-game is largely about choice and some people enjoy working on large cost shiny items. This is for those people. You make plenty of gold to enjoy the game without ever needing to "grind".
@@abree107 ahh i see thanks!
Always good to have options when you get bored, but I usually stick to my dear RIBA, besides it also have a lottery ticket chance with the Queen Bee Infusion :3
Fantastic guide, hope it gets the recognition it deserves!
This is an excellent video. Thak you for the work you put into it and the resource links. Seeing a video on fractal farming would be useful.
What a fantastic video, great job and thank you!
Should I still list an item even if the price difference is 1c?
That's up to you. If I were selling stacks and stacks of the item, I would. You could also take a look at GW2BLTC.com to see if the price regularly goes higher and is just at a low currently. If it typically hovers 10c higher, you'd be getting 25s more per stack if you listed higher, which adds up over time.
Great farming summary, thank you! I would like to add one point to all LW4 farms (mainly DragonFall) - karmic retribution is a must. It forces mobs to drop volatile magic, which is pretty valuable. And there are tons, tons of mobs in most LW4 metas :) 1st level of karmic retribution is enough.
great guide man! fairly new to gw2, helps alot with how to make gold in the endgame
Honestly man, your video quality is so top notch, very impressed, keep it up!
So what are the best ways to gain gold without having to join a group, for those of us not in a guild ? I avoid groups because I hate the toxic, elitist micromanaging in them.
None of these require joining a guild, and none of them require actually joining a squad. You'll just not be getting information from a commander if you choose to not join the squad. Drizzlewood coast is a good one for not needing a commander and not joining a squad. You've also got all of the solo farms on Peureki's website and the [Fast] website as alternatives.
To be honest it just sounds like you joined the wrong guild or a Dragon's End map soon after EoD and had a poor experience. Most guilds are super super chill and most commanders will just leave you to your own devices if you don't want to run with them.
Definitely would like to see your take on fractals! Great video 👍
Very informative video, thank you bro
I gotta admit, after watching your whole playlist, I really hate how gold works in this game...I didn't know I'd need a degree in finance to make gold in an MMO...as a solo player, I'd love to see some videos on some of those solo farm routes mentioned on the websites you linked...I will definitely be attempting them when I get there with my character but it's a bit vague just reading it on the website...thanks for the great info anyway!
Loved this video, added it to my fav so I can come back to it, am definitely interested in a fractal farm guide!
Also wondering how do you get your map to show in zones?
I assume you mean for Drizzlewood Coast? That occurs automatically on that map, since the theme is WvW-esc.
@@abree107 ahh I thought there was an add on for the overworld map. thanks
@@Senayoshy GW2TacO is the closest thing that would do something like that. It has a lot of functionality with map completion, node farming routes, achievement markers etc. But it doesn't do anything like splitting the map.
these are the best but I gotta give a shout out to the absolute worst gold farm, harvest temple cm which takes a couple dozen hours to do, very difficult and intense hours I might add, and for all this time you get a cool 8 gold (4 you could've gotten form normal mode up to you if that counts) and some profit shards a summoning stone and maybe a infusion or tonic if you're really lucky, temple of febe cm/lcm has similar time to reward ratio and you can argue about which is harder but they're both just as bad for gold farming
I've been mindlessly salvaging unidentified gear without opening them. O.o
I'll stop doing that in 2023 !
Holy shit. That scared me. 😂 Yes sir I shall no longer instasell no matter what. Not even if it's a 1 copper difference!
Nice vid dude I really like how people share their ways of farming, hope u do a video about fractal farming
I've been looking for content to help me explain things to my new guild members. You give very clear explanations with a ton of extra resources. Thank you so much for this!
Well done! Great info, great presentation. Subbed!
This was probably the best laid out and most well organized video on a video game I have ever seen. This was art and information, thank you
Why exactly do we need Jormag rising? isnt no quarter enough to acces drizzlewood?
I've really only just come across your videos today but I'm super impressed with how well its formatted and the info is super easy to digest. thanks for making this!
I farmed unidentified gears at silverwaste and tried open bags at 54 lvl character but it doesnt give iron ore or other materials still gives mithril ore? do i miss something? pls help
Thank you for these, its like im rediscovering the game and actually making some progress in my wallet. The only thing im a bit confused about is, do i refine and sell everything i made in the runs per hour? Or stockpile up after like a week, refine then sell. most of the time ive been selling excess globs
Anything you will need for crafting in the future should be saved. The tax on the trading post can lead to brutal losses if you sell a material and then buy it back later. If you end up with stacks and stacks of mithril, it's probably not worth hoarding it all when you only need a small handful to keep up with daily mithrillium crafting and drizzlewood coast donations. On the other hand, ectos are something I'd not advise you to sell on the trading post. They have a lot of uses for end-game goals and it will cost a lot for you to buy them back in the future if you need them. If you fill up your material storage with ectos, I'd personally recommend pulling the stack(s) out and either putting them in your bank or on an alt character that you don't play and can use to store stuff.
If you end up collecting a large amount of them (10 stacks?) and would rather have the gold, that's when I'd look into player-to-player trading. Getting 2g/stack more might not seem like a lot, but if you do it with 10 stacks then you're getting 20g more and that's an hour's worth of farming saved for significantly less than an hour in time spent. Batching tasks like that is just as good of a strategy to maximize the value of your time in-game as it is when you're doing something like multiple loads of laundry at once in real life. In most cases, doing things in larger quantities will save you time and make them more efficient. There's obviously storage considerations you'd have to make when deciding what's worth the hassle and what isn't.
If you really want to maximize profit, one of the best things you can do is figure out what kinds of materials you get in large quantities and find profitable crafting recipes that you can make with them. Refining is a good fallback for many raw materials, but if you can find something even further to spend your materials on, you'll make more. If you're getting darksteel ingots from Drizzlewood Coast, use those to make deldrimor steel ingots instead of just selling them as is. If you're getting +1 agony infusions from fractals and can make a bit more if you convert them to +9 infusions first, do it. Generation 1 & 3 legendaries are popular ways to sink materials and currencies that you farm for a higher profit. They require a lot of different materials, so there's a lot of potential opportunities to save gold by farming them yourself and then increase your profit when you finish the legendary and sell it. Recipes and their profit margins change, so you do need to make sure you check prices occasionally instead of just blindly repeating the same thing over and over again, but if you can find a few options for each material, you can increase your yield by 10-20% fairly easily.
@@abree107 Thank you so much for this. I was reading around and this video and your response has been the most extensive by far. I'm having a blast farming around, which usually never happens in most MMO's these days. Keep up the content! Thanks again!
116k gold wow that's a ton lol I'm newish & only have 11 gold ha
Would have loved an insight in how the new meta’s compare from eod
The sad truth from a profit perspective is they don't. Dragon's End is okayish if you can clear it every time. The rest are just really bad for profit. Do them if you need the account bound rewards for the gen 3 legendaries, not for profit.
I have all the expansions but none of the Living Worlds. If I know I'd just buy the LW
They're some of my favorite maps for sure. You can also just buy some of them and then earn the rest over time.
i just had a whole stroke seeing the amount of gold you have. i will be listening to your advice good sir.
I was looking all day for this exact style of information! Thank you!
In the description you say "Ignore the Top Table; None of it Sells" for the spirit shards. Last week I made Azureflame and it sold after a few days. Made 100g profit. Maybe I was lucky?
Quite lucky, yes.
Instant selling only helps people like you if that item is needed. Lets be real, this game isnt that popular lile it use to be.
Great video. Thank you
best gold per hour is aetherblade T4 as a fractal god. It's legit 60g+ per hour(hard coin value, not account value). It's close to a full year of daily fractals assuming you do CMs and recs every day. I farmed T4 fractals more than 1 month and did some CM(cleared everything and got something like 1K, 1K5 total ufe wich is not much) and I only have few augments and still short buying my first pot, I have enough fractal materials for the back but I think that fractal augments and pots are better first Aetherblade as a fractal god nets a vast amount of xp and karma, on tops of a meaningfull amount of ectoplams, fractal relics and encryptions, making it the actual best content to brute farm in the game.
You really should have mentionned meteorites. Rose Quartz prices are pretty high, and it sells well, I even bought some at some points ^^'
You forgot champion farming, an ok team gets a bit more than 20g/hour farming champions and obviously it gets bumped slightly factoring in daily rewards and daily discounts
You also forgot Icebrood strikes
Then there are the content that are daily but extremly good daily, things like Bjora marsh farm, chack + octo, etc...
Thanks for the Video! amazingly done and the info is SUPER helpful!
I've been playing over a month, and not once have I seen a LWS4 train. And I'm lucky if there's a commander in Dragonfall. How do people find good groups?
The Overflow Trading Company discord pings for runs of various groups. That's where the LS4 train runs will be posted. Dragonfall isn't a 24/7 available farm, but if you check LFG every now and then, you can find maps pretty frequently. If I recall I checked LFG 3 times and got 2 active maps while making this video.
I absolutely HATE fractals, so running an hour of fractals would make me quit the game. A true nightmare 😂 love strikes and open world. Thank you for this great video 🙏
Need a fractle guid for beginners how to get the gear and other stuff, already have the 2 rings infused + ascended now what should i focusing next ?
Trinkets are definitely the easiest. After that, you need to bite the bullet and just make the armor and weapons.
I just want to add.. make sure you log out in Arborstone every night so you get your exp boost! up to 25% exp boost (with EOD expansion)
I am actually doing RIBA farming in Silverwaste since I do not own Living world and icebrood yet. The boosters part is a great help. Thanks
Good guide. I combine crafting and meta events for gold farm and have been successful doing that. I am casual and play open world and wvw exclusively. Working towards getting the beetle and the skyscale in the near future.
silly question, i dont understand how farm money makey works at all... when you say 10 or 20 or 30 gold per hour your mean, all i got from that farming i have to sell it ? wiithout processing any materials?
It values in the currencies and assumes you use basic boosters and a similar process for the loot that I gave in the beginning of this video. You're going to take a pretty sizable hit if you just dump everything on the trading post. If you're looking for more of a breakdown on what forms the gold can take, the beginning of my "How Gold Works" video has a breakdown of the different types of gold. It's not going to all show up in your wallet and unless you really need raw gold for some reason, it's better to hold onto materials for when you need them. Selling stuff and then needing to buy it back later ends up costing you a ton of gold.
The "Drizzlewood Coast Charr Commendation Calculator" link is broken.
Where can i get the info about which is the best legion now?
The fast website should have it somewhere. I'll try to get it updated this week. Their website can sometimes be a little touchy with specific pages.
I got banned in 2017 for changing countries and forgetting to remove my phone number and just now coming back and loved this vid. If you could make the fractal farming guide or solo farms guide it would be helpful as with a fresh account trying to re-acquire ascended gear it is quite painful.
Hey @abree ! MAy I know why u prefere xp enrichissement and xp guild boost over karma please ?
If you've filled all the available mastery bars, you will gain a spirit shard every 254k experience. The value of spirit shards massively exceeds karma, they're more of a bottleneck for things like legendary crafting than karma is, and they're much harder to get in the quantities you need to do things with them. In almost any case, if you need spirit shards and karma for something (i.e. a legendary), the karma will sort itself out a decent bit quicker than the spirit shards.
Another issue is that there's less ways to convert karma by itself into gold effectively. The Wintersday festival is one of the few easy opportunities and it still gives you a very small amount of gold.
Finally, and perhaps I should have led with this, boosters don't work on fixed value rewards or consumables. For karma, a significant portion you receive will come from consumable items that give 500, 1000, 2000 etc. This is the case in a lot of the newer maps, but also the case in LS4/dragonfall/fractal farms if you have the karmic retributions. So your karma boosters only affect a minority of the karma you receive. The only real exception is Wintersday. Experience is almost always boostable. Experience from kills, events, and map completion objectives are all subject to be increased by boosters. The only major exceptions are writs of Experience from dailies and bonus xp from the fractal empowerment upgrades, which are both very niche situations.
If you're not so concerned with gold and REALLY want a lot of karma for something (maybe if you're a new player and want every mini/tonic purchasable with karma from living world maps, which costs several million karma), you could always run karma bonuses instead. You'll just be trading a significant amount of gold in spirit shards for it over the long haul.