The Desperate Housewives Syndrome: The Effects of Media on Body Image
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Today we delve into the world of Desperate Housewives and how the show may have contributed to body image issues for a generation of women.
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00:00 Intro
02:53 The Desperate Housewives Syndrome
05:59 Effects of 00s Media on Body Image
09:49 Competitive Dieting
11:51 Makeup, Skincare and Plastic Surgery
15:12 Diet and Exercise: Intro
16:25 Eva Longoria
24:32 BMI for Older Adults
25:22 Marcia Cross
29:08 Use of Appetite Suppressants
31:17 Teri Hatcher
37:46 Felicity Huffman
40:23 Nicollette Sheridan
41:39 Conclusion & Outro
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Note: I have decided to remove a portion of the video where I tried Eva's day of eating - it wasn't crucial to the overall point of the video and so I cut it out to remove any confusion, since there was no information for the other actresses. It also save a few minutes of watching time, love ya
there is definitely a cultural influence on the occurrence of anorexia. it can't be traced to one television show, but its about the preponderance of depictions in the media.
desperate housewives is my ultimate comfort show. i originally watched it when i was way too young (like 8) with my mom and big sister; my mom has since passed away, my sister moved to a different country but i still rewatch it almost annually, most recently with my boyfriend and it was very comforting to relive it with someone i loved ❤️
i caught glimpses of it growing up, so i bought the dvd sets a few years ago when i was in high school. my mom said that my dad was pretty invested in the show too, so i’m trying to get my boyfriend to watch it with me 😂
@@x_dana_xThat's so sweet 😂
I remember watching the show since I was 13 and with Gabbie dieting to lose weight quickly when she became a mother because she wad ashamed, her STARVING when she was pregnant to fit into a dress, her calling little girls fat and all of this would trigger me into wanting to diet
Definitely, it's been a long time since I watched the show but I remember the scenes between Gabbie and Juanita trying to get the little girl to lose weight - so much to unpack there!
@@JessicaVianaa I hope the little girl grew up to be healthy after this
Lmao I loved Gabrielle
@@sineadiloveyouFor what?
Yes it's called acting.
I remembered one scene: Lynette was getting an ultrasound because she was pregnant with twins (again!) and you could see a flat, toned belly! The production didn't even try to make it look realistic haha... I had never noticed their weight, but how toned and polished everyone was, even if it didn't make sense for their character. I mean, Gabrielle was supposed to be a retired model and you could see her doing yoga, shopping, having a maid etc, but what about Brie? How could a housewife with two kids find time to look perfect and cook and clean that huge house and do the gardening? Even Susan, who was "bad" at housekeeping and was the most poor of them had always a clean house, perfect hair (Eddie disagrees haha) fresh clothes everyday, toned body etc. I tell you, i have a baby and i hardly find the time to take a bath! Having my hair done or doing some exercise is a luxury!
Very good point - it definitely goes toward the idea that women need to be perfect doing everything and still look flawless, which is not realistic in the slightest if you have to do it all yourself
(Warning ⚠️ Biased Fan): I mean, Brie was stay at home and cleaning, gardening, etc.... can be a workout in of itself. Plus, it's all about time management. Kids are off to school and hubby is at work for 8 hours in which you can break down segments of that time prepping, cleaning, etc...
As for Susan, I'm like 90% convinced Julie did a LOT of housework as she was treated as a parentified child and often used as Susan's personal therapist 🙄 but, Susan is also seen jogging throughout the show which couple that with barely eating, is plausible.
At the end of a day, it's a soap/telenovela with a bigger production budget. Sometimes what makes it a comfort show is the fact that it's NOT 100% realistic and can use the suspension of disbelief to navigate through different topics.
I'd highly recommend checking out the subreddit for Desperate Housewives though! It's super active and the discussions there are great. Only watched the show with my mom growing up so it's really fun to discuss it with other people and get different viewpoints!
it's all about scheduling...
@@DeadLkeMeyou are a fan and don't even know her name is Bree.
I don't want flabby bellues and messy hair. I know how real moms look. Everybody does. Noone would watch a show with real looking moms.
Baby belly: how to make an actress have a baby belly?
An actress that WORKS hard to be in shape?
Of course you as a mom have no time. Everybody knows how time consumning mothering is. You agreed to that, you knew what you were up to.
Throughout the whole show Susan looked so unwell, particularly in the later seasons where she looked like she was about to keel over at any moment. I’m not surprised to hear she was so busy she didn’t eat. A similar thing happened to me when I was at my lowest weight. But I remember thinking it was normal to have your bones be visible through your chest because every woman on TV had them! The 2000s were wild
she also had a lot of botox
Her hair starts to thin very noticeably, which can be expected with age, but she does look unwell.
It is normal to have bones visible on your chest, btw; it depends how you carry your weight and mine are visible to the top end of a healthy bmi because I carry weight mostly in my hips and thighs.
@@cherry-insomnia9188I was going to say, it is pretty normal to see a woman's bones through her chest, particularly if she's a bit older.
"that show is a comfort show" YES AND YES! i rewatch it entirely every 2 years or so and rewatch episodes or seasons now and then. great show
It was disturbing for me - especially because I was a teen when DH started - that people thought Eva was fat and her friends were acting like she was fat and I was like ... so she's gone from 00 to 0? Like, the weight she gained looked like she was the same size of some of the other castmates (that is to say, she barely changed in size at all, and was still incredibly skinny, while being called fat). Damn, the 90s and 00s did so much damage to my poor brain.
You should do the nanny. The main characters have a very strange relationship to food throughout the entire show
I know they’re not part of a fictional show but I would love to see an episode on the Kardashian’s! They’ve set so many “beauty standards” and it would be interesting to see an analysis on them especially as they’ve caused so many controversies over the years with plastic surgery, dietary depressants etc.
Thanks for the suggestion! I feel like there are so many videos on them already, is there any particular angle you’d like to see researched? 💕
@@JessicaVianaa I think there are plenty of videos about them however giving that they have recently looked a lot thinner and how that may influence consumers in the very near future.
That’s an interesting phenomenon. Despite all of the plastic surgeries, they’ve created new beauty standards helping to safe women from struggling with losing too much weight. It helped me personally to defeat anorexia. God bless their wide hips ❤
A relative of mine was the “oh my god how does she look like that after kids” mom. Four kids over I think roughly 8 years and still to this day (about 18 years since the last kid was born) she is a size 0. Everyone assumed she ate nothing at all, or worked out like crazy, or had some other crazy way of making herself that way and they were all jealous because NOBODY actually looks like that.
Turns out it was some kind of medical condition. Don’t know the details but it super wasn’t great lmao
I feel like I'm either treated different for being overweight or fawned over for being thin and horribly ill. I've experienced both sides throughout my life and it certainly makes one think.
Yeah but some of us just have a fast metabolism 😊
My boobs have gotten noticeably bigger over the years despite weight being the same, hormonal changes affect how your body stores fat quite dramatically in some cases. So she might be right about the boobs being natural.
I’ve seen my mother watch this show growing up and we recently watched it together. I loved it, so juicy. We’re both naturally “slim” women and yet we were constantly shocked by how slim the entire cast was. I can’t imagine what it must be like to watch this show if you don’t fit in that category and not feel some type of way…
I feel like there would be a lot to unpack with gossip girl or pretty little liars
Lucy Hale had an ED too on the show so it would be good & all the comments on Hefty Hanna
I've been telling everyone that DH is the most all in one series. Be it comedy, drama, romance you name it. Even the casting was perfect ❤
I am rewatching it right now and I love it all over again
I remember i was a kid when DHW was on tv. Mind that i'm from méxico so it wasn't aired until a year and a half later in mexican television and i remember the impact that Eva Longoria had on the latin community since she is a Latina woman. So i realized she is part of the stereotype of what most people think latin woman are and expect them to be. I do remember woman around me and in the mexican/latin media critizing her for being too petite, too skinny, hipless etc but also promoting diets and exercise programs to be just like her.
Thanks for sharing, it’s very interesting to hear the perspective from the latin community on this one xx
Thank you for sharing BMI rather than numeric weight. I think it’s a healthier way to get a grasp of someone’s body size because it factors in height. Thinking about how these woman were around a BMI of 19 really hammers in the bare minimum amount of muscle and body fat they had. The beauty standard really is a woman unable to defend herself. My lean body weight (fat free) is several pounds heavier than what my weight would be at a BMI of 19…
Just a very quick reminder that BMI was invented based on white middle-aged men and it often is utterly useless when it is applied to the bodies of... anybody else.
Thanks for watching 💕 I know BMI gets a bad rep but for these videos I feel like it’s a better way to give everyone a standard idea of body mass that is more comparable
The BMI estimates are incorrect; most of them are clearly underweight, while a BMI of 19 is in the healthy range and would look slim but not as frighteningly thin as many of the Housewives, who are certainly under a BMI of 18.5.
Speaking about Melrose Place, you should do a Beverly Hills 90210/Melrose Place/Models Inc video. Specially on BH90210 the girls were so young and exposed to so much hate. Also Charmed would be a good subject (one of my favorite shows and they wore so many tight clothes)
Thanks for the suggestion!
I was like oof 40mn vid that's a long one, but honestly it really didn't feel it was long because you made it so interesting ! So thanks for the video, it must take a lot of work to analyse everything beforehand :)
Thank you so much for the kind comment and for watching, I’m happy you enjoyed it 🥰💕
I remember the red dessous combo Marcia wore in one of the episodes to seduce her husband and the the following week, the dessous was rumoured to be sold out everywhere. Everyone wanted to look like them, even teens like me. They were portrayed as desirable while their storylines were mostly about them being desperate and morally awful human beings (some of them but especially Bree). It is a weird and screwed up combination
Agree with you 100% - you reminded me of an article I found during research titled “A definitive list of all the terrible things that happened on Desperate Housewives”.
I’d recommend you to have a read, I almost didn’t remember how wild the plot of the show is 😅
i watched a dvd extra abt that lol. they went to a random department store to find the set for her and had no idea ppl would sell them out 😂
This series is so interesting. Other suggestions would be SNL I heard the ladies in the original cast were under a lot of pressure to be thin and of course ally Mc Beal is one you always hear about.
This was a great analysis! I would love to see more videos like this one ❤
DH is one of my favorite shows of all time. Rewatching it this year made me notice how insanely skinny all of them were. In some ways, times are changing for the better.
Insanely skinny? They are just fit to me.
LOVE LOVE your videos!! Please don't stop making videos like this, they are so interesting. Have been watching since the Friends vid
Thank you so much for the love and for sticking around 🥰🥰
im watching for the first time (on s6) and during the stripping scene susan looked absolutely so unnaturally thin
Well researched and fun to watch thank you!! I love desperate housewives!!
Thank you so much for watching 💕💕
I just finished the show with my parents…. So good!
im too early i need to have other comments to scroll through while i watch😞
lol same
= attention problems.
There were so many jokes about not eating or being fat. Lynette was especially bad for implying she was overweight when these women could not have been much skinnier. Yet there was Bree always baking … she also never gained any weight or bloated at all despite being an alcoholic. The idea that Gabby was fat just because she wasn’t wearing skin tight dresses for a short period of time is insane. Love this show but the body stuff is bad news
Are people that sensitive? Lmao I watched the show when I was very young and I re watched it now and never thought anything about what you are talking about
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Thank you so much for joining! 🥰💞
I love this show so much, not gunna lie. But I definitely noticed a theme with how thin and "perfect" the women were. There was also a lot of alcohol.
When we look at people who may be overweight, a metric that is more accurate for determining wether they are healthy is their belly circumference. And it turns out that when these numbers were compared BMI actually under reports instead of over reports for people who are at risk of health complications. It's a common misconception that BMI supposedly unfairly labels people in a risk group, it's actually the other way around.
Yes and no. BMI can underreport but just as easily overreport someone in the overweight category as soon as the bone structure is wide and or they have a lot of muscle mass. But if you have someone with a slim bone structure who doesn't work out and mostly stores their fat around the mid section they can easily be considered fine or slightly overweight, even though the fat around and mostly inside the body and around the organs is whats causing more health risks. Its not just the belly circumference but the waist to hip ratio. So you measure the hips and the waist and thst gives you a more accurate view of health risks if theres no difference or thewaist is bigger than the hips. In general there are so so many factors thatneed to be considered in determening whether or not someone is truly unhealthily overweight
Yep, BMI is too generous-it lets skinny fat people go. A healthy BMI range is 40 pounds, which is more than enough to cover a variety of frames and lifestyles. Strongmen, sumo wrestlers, and other athletes who are too heavy by BMI standards STILL drop weight when they retire because the extra mass, whether it’s muscle or fat, puts too much of a strain on your heart, joints, and ligaments. You can complain about BMI being unrealistic but, like OP points out, it’s unrealistic because it’s too generous, big too strict. Body fat % isn’t perfect but it’s a better measure, and people who complain about BMI are NOT going to be happy if they switch over because it’s much more stringent.
the part of her getting compliments cause she lost weight not feeling well.... mom is going through this now where half is obsessed with her be skinny at 58 and others skinny shaming (we're black). mom and i wouldn't be bothered by the weight if it wasnt so quick and because her medicine kills her appetite. so we're in the process of asking the doctor to try something else and try to get her just to gain 10 lbs and eat 2 meals a day. She's very fat skinny/ skinny fat as when you touch her there's not much resistance so at her age trying to up her protein and do simple resistance training.
Thank you for watching 🙏I hope your mom is able to find an alternative that supports her better, I went through it for a year with medication that increased my appetite and I understand it can feel uncontrollable sometimes... wishing you both the best x
Your channel is amazing! Thank you so much for all the research you do!
Thank you so much for the support 💕💕
Hey! Jessica I really enjoyed watching your desperate housewives vlog so so much you inspired me so so much and I wish you reach 40K Subscribers very very soon!😭♥️✨
Thank you so much for your ongoing support 💕💕
Love your videos, always an intelligent and interesting take! Haven't even seen Desperate Housewives and I'm still interested!
Thank you for watching 💕🙏
I know people don’t like bmi, but like… I feel like when can tell when looking at someone with a bmi of 40 what their general composition is
Great job i really enjoyed that.
Thank you for watching 🙏💕💕
Another awesome video, well worth the wait. Keep it up💙
Thank you for sticking around 💕💕
Love this type of video. Super well done and researched
Thank you for watching 💕💕
so funny that all arch students do the same. I binge watched Friends and some of my studio-mates binge watched the office.
I was missing your videos. Que bom que estas de volta 😘
Awww 💕💕 obrigada pelo carinho 🥰
It would be much nicer if you included relevant photos with your commentary.
Sex and the city video part2 is not a bad idea !!
Can you do a video about Kate Middleton??
I'm 6 episodes far from the final episode of Desperate Hosewives kkkkk. I just love watch problematic series and then come to yt searching for people commenting about them. I already watched your video commenting Sex and the City and I don't know if u did something about Gossip Girl or The O.C., but if u didn't, pleaseeeee do!!!!
keep it going girl, love ur vids ❤️
Thank you for watching 💕💕
I love your videos! They are so educational and entertaining. I would love it if you did a video on the dieting and exercise that Kpop Idols do.
Thanks for the suggestion, interestingly I don’t know much about K-pop but have watched some videos on that - I’ll see if I can come up with a fresh take :)
Hey Jessica! I cant seem to be able to find your sex and the city video. does anyone know if it has been removed?
I'm 37. My BMI is around 20. I wouldn't say it is hard to maintain this weight. Sometimes I gain few kilos because I still consume alcohol. As for the dieting... I never really diet. Just try to eat healthy (a lot of protein, no fast food, no food with crazy amount of calories). What I don't do is starve myself. It never works and you don't have to starve if you want to be on thinner side
You’re not middle-aged in your 30s that starts in your 40s to completely different decades
Yep, it definitely feels weird to say middle aged for anyone aged 35 but in studies and articles the term was used for women 35 and up, I’m not sure if there’s an alternative term?
You should discuss the relationship that Fran Fine in The Nany had with food as it was quite a weird thing. I used to watch it as a kid and think that once I'll grow up I am going to be fit and skinny no matter what I eat just like her.
This work is a symphony of innovative thoughts; akin to a book that was a symphony of innovation. "Your Body Your Temple" by Sophia Wintergreen
I don't understand why there's more desperate housewives content.
Please do character analysis & their lives
What is her book?
great video but I did think it was a little pointless and out of place when you tried Eva's diet and exercise regimen. I really didn't get why
Thanks for the feedback, in these videos normally I attempt to recreate the diets in order to explore the efforts involved in looking like the actresses. However, in this one I could only find information for Eva - perhaps I should’ve just removed that part from here to avoid confusion so I’ll keep it in mind for future videos.
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Interesting video but seriously, people knew about hair and make up before 2012. There were make up tutorials as soon as YT started not to mention a whole world that existed even before the internet ;)
Goes so muc further back. Look at Twiggy, the model. If you haven’t heard of her she is the original “waif” model and brought focus to being ultra skinny.
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The meme in the beginning was hilarious
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Unpopular opinion; I hate this show. I hated watching it, I hated the body image ideals, I hated the way the drama was presented, and so much more; I’d be here all day talking about why I don’t like it.
I find this discussion fascinating though, as someone who’s seen the whole show. I love your commentary.
Lmao I loved desperate housewives and I rewatch it when I can
I recently watched first episode of the show out of sentiment. What struck me, all these actreses were so thin. I did not notice first time watching it becouse I was in my 20s and depressed so I was very thin myself. Now in my 30s not depressed and not skinny i was really struck by this
I love to be skinny. Nothing wrong with that. I eat a well planned diet and exercise zo achive a certain look.
Why do you act like being skinny is linked to mental diseases?
@@CordeliaWagner I was talking about my expierence
its a cheesy show
this whole video is so weird... obsessing over this one show and its impact on ed's in women, but then obsessively recreating their diets, including their weight, doing their workouts...? what was the reasoning behind that? you are just reproducing all that shit. i feel like you want to recreate channels that discuss cultural phenomena, but it falls completely flat.
Hello thanks for watching and for the feedback. I do not include numeric weight information on my videos and, to reinforce, I’d hope the message I expressed in the video was clear that this is not to promote such diets and instead to demonstrate evidence that such diets can be unhealthy and are not realistic or sustainable for the majority of women. In this video I only found specific information on Eva’s diet so the rest of the video does not show this instead focusing on analyzing specific topics around dieting and EDs in the actresses’ experiences themselves.
Most people with eating disorders have food addiction and binge eating disorder.
These women look normal.
Eating healthy and working out gives you a lean body. Sadly that body type is seen by many as "evil" but on the other hand they glorify obesity.
What's wrong with the ideal of a lean worked out body?
It's NOT unrealistic, otherwise we wouldn't see it on real women.
Sometimes I think videos like yours are just pandering to the "growing" obesity community.
Yes, anorexia exists but the root is in the childhood, not a TV show. A TV show can trigger it but we have to look at what REALLY causes an individuals eating disorder.
Like sexual violence in childhood which is easier to ignore when you can blame four lean women on a screen.