In the sims 2 and 3 I never designed a house. I would literally buy a random house, put in some stuff I needed, not caring if it looks good. I would put on my Sims the first clothes that looked ok, and never changed it. I was so eager to get into the gameplay that the aesthetics didn’t matter. In the sims 4 I spend hours setting up the game, building, decorating etc, and then spend 5 minutes with gameplay before I get bored.
This is what happened to me with Create a Sim. I spent hours having fun recreating my sims from 1 and 3 to perfection in Sims 4. Then I played the game and I was like, "Meh."
Tbh yeah?? It works surprisingly well as a sandbox Home and People creator and barely anyone would have complained if it was a game like this, but actually playing said families is like watching Paint dry
In sims 2 my sim broke up with her boyfriend. He didn’t take it well. For about a week, he would walk by her house at 4am and kick over her trash can. I always had to rush to clean it up to avoid roaches. In sims 3 my sim was a serial cheater and got called out for cheating in the middle of leading a protest. All the sims started booing her. I miss the wacky, unpredictable antics. I was going to uninstall sims 4 but my ten year old discovered it and has fun with it.
Yeah, that’s the thing. In older games, you could really fuck things up by doing the most innocent things. I’ve had games in Sims 2 and 3 where one small decision messed things up so badly that I ended up starting a new family lol. It was frustrating, but it was also entertaining.
nah even irl things can affect the sims 2. my ADHD said OOOO SQURREL a few weeks back and when i looked back at my game my sim was dead and her urn was in the kitchen. still no clue how she died cuz i reloaded (it was the start of my legacy so yeah i was like eh it's the start so reload i would have let her stay dead if she had a child already but she was still pregnant) she didn't burn cuz i would have heard the fire alarm. so my only idea is maybe she starved? idk either way i was so confused ahah
In 4 they still knock over the trash can but instead of it being somebody who hates your Sim & it’s drama it’s some random Sim with the Mean trait. It’s like Sims 4 *looks* like a Sims game but it’s missing the *essence* of a Sims game.
That’s what I like about sims 3, sims would just be doing their own things in real time which made it seem more realistic. Even with mods that add more sims to lots like clubs, it didn’t feel like the sims were only there for your benefit it just made sense
i want to tell stories but its just so boring... like... i don't want to pretend that a story is happening??? I want the story to actually happen??? I don't want to have to orchestrate everything that I want to happen
@@hunty2500 Great argument, wow! Do you think they never thought about it? They're just stating this because they wanted a better game, not for plain hate on EA. They seem to care tbh.
@@hunty2500 why are you eating EA's ass? don't you want to fight for more? fight for better? they are fully capable of providing more, providing better but they don't. don't accept the bare minimum. I love the sims, and i want it to be better.
@hunty2500 "don't play the game then" "play the older games, then" Honestly, such tired arguments. We want to play new and improved games, not old ones. We want the Sims to IMPROVE and ACTUALLY be fun. We complain because there are so many missing features that a newer version of the game is supposed to have but are not there. No one is defending Sims 4 because its so crap compared to the previous editions. Honestly Sims 4 does not deserve to be defended, especially when there are greedy scummy devs and investors behind this that don't care what players really want and expect out of a life-sim game.
@@hunty2500it’s just not that simple because the problem is most people have already paid for a lot of the sims stuff whether it be game packs/expansions and so it’s not so easy just to “not play” when you’ve paid for it. It’s annoying that essentially ea gives such a half assed product for what you would want it to be
When I played Sims 1 over 20 years ago, I will never forget when I had a house party and hired an entertainer, a clown showed up went directly to my hamster and stole the entire cage - put it right in his pocket. Then he went to entertain the guests as if I didnt just see him steal my pet. Ive never forgiven and Ive never forgotten. Sims 1,2,3 - Life happens around you and to you Sims 4 - Youre the one who makes 'life' happen Its actually criminal that fire doesnt spread.
I think in my 300 hours of gameplay I've never seen something catch fire in TS4, while in TS2/3 I WAS ALVAYS HAVING TO PUT DOWN FIRES (yes, I was angry at the time, but now I miss it)
Fire spreads, very very very slowly, I've visited people's houses in the Sims 4 and just enjoy watching it burn down completely and them alongside, it takes like 2 in game days though for a small apartment, if only house fires were that convenient in real life.
They don't want you to have fun...they want you to buy more packs. Sims 4 has nothing to do with being enjoyable. You're meant to chase the enjoyment by spending more money.
Eh that just might be the case. To be fair the whole pushing the boundaries with packs started to show it's ugly head sometime within TS3's lifecycle. It went full blown crazy with TS4 though.
i've never completed a sims 4 life cycle. it's just all the same stuff, same choices, same dialogues with townies. and all the fun stuff is hidden in the bunches of $40 packs. there's just not enough replay value!
I’ve actually never completed a life cycle either the most I got when university came out I got a baby to a young adult to go to university and the mom became an elder ☠️ once I got out of university I quit until the next pack came out and repeated the toxic cycle.
the fact that in ts3 i used to play with a family well into their eight or tenth generation without ever finding it boring but in ts4 i struggle to even get past the second generation because all sims just feel the absolute same no matter how much storytelling or diverse traits i try to implement. even an eight sim household is utterly lackluster and not at all challenging, its so disappointing but after 10 years of this bs i've lost faith in ea and am just waiting for other life sims to come out
i think thats a you problem in terms of creativity & play style cus i have plenty of fun playing generations of families. youre probably just not into that type of gameplay.
The craziest thing is I learned yesterday that liberals and conservatives have a lot in common... They're both anti fun with a ton of rules... You're not allowed to think like this, you're not allowed to play like this, you're not allowed to do this xyz... It's tiresome
I think I’ve gotten like 5 generations in before realizing every sim in the family had the same exact hobbies. Whether they were a world renowned surgeon or an A list celebrity or the president, they all liked to garden, and paint, and raise farm animals. There’s only a few activities that are actually interesting to do in the Sims 4 so every sim just ends up being the same person with the same hobbies and a slightly different career. Not to mention of course traits affect literally nothing so they’re especially just the same bland sim over and over
The sims aged down while the players aged up, thats the thing for me. Especially for the 1-2 players who grew up with the burglars, the horrifying sims 1 reaper music and fire screaming. Sims 4 feels like it's treating me like an ipad baby while im just LOOKING at it
@@jessicathompson2914it’s so politically correct and it’s entirely performative lol. every single time a new pack comes out, I wait to see how quickly I find a someone with chopped blue hair that is gender neutral and it takes about 3 seconds at most. They want to appear as squeaky clean and socially perfect as possible, which is not something the sims ever was. Or at least it wasn’t the way they are trying to be. The Sims has always been super progressive compared to its peers but now it almost feels like they rely on stereotypes to say “look how inclusive we are” lol
Never seen anyone say it better. It's odd to me how they targeted a younger audience when loyal players had grown up with the previous games. Talk about not being able to read the room.
The Sims 3 was the BEST. I miss being able to RUN through town and see my sims all over the map and not have to wait for a loading screen. And you could watch them drive around the world, you could build custom maps/worlds. Like where did it all go??
Yes, I miss that feature too. Now it seems very claustrophobic. But remember the loading screen at the beginning of the game in TS3, and every time you changed worlds? I remember it like a nightmare.
I heard someone say this one time and it made so much sense, the sims 4 is just a dollhouse game. You make your pretty sim and their perfect family and put them in their pretty house and that’s the game. This is so true bc everytime I get on the sims I make my pretty sim move them into their perfect house and then I’m bored and get off 🤣.
the worlds are also so huge but you can do nothing in them. I moved my Sim into one of those horsegame lots and the walkable world is huge but all you can do is sit on a parkbench or choose one of the ten spots that you can fish that also don't make any difference
So true. I think I got as far as one sim having a kid that aged up to teen once, and that's the longest I've held out. I've given up on all Sims games except TS2 now, which I'm actually having FUN playing.
Yeah it's literally that. Nothing happens beyond your own planning and without your consent. I remember in the earlier games sims would get into fights with you or each other. Now I can cheat with someone's wife in front of them and they don't give a shit in terms of my relationship with them. This game really needed events and lifelike townies. They make the game, you can have all the most beautiful dollhouses in the world but if it feels lifeless and filled with robots who do exactly what you want it'll never get fun. It's probably why they market this towards kids. Their rich imaginations will have a field day with a game like this, but anyone older looking for more depth will ultimately be disappointed.
Exactly at this point it feels more like a architect type of game especially when the UA-camrs they promote for their game only make house builds and not a lot of gameplay at least from what I’ve seen tbh
The sims 4 IS boring though. Their slogan is literally about creating your own stories because they haven’t done any of it! Ts4 was a step way back before even sims 2 which did have stories, drama, proper animation, and engaging sims. The sims 4 is a dead game. Lifeless with no depth or drama
Sims 3: You made a Sim and reached the Emperor of Evil rank of the criminal career? Good luck keeping *anyone* around your sim. Sims 4: You cheated on me with 20 different Sims? Just put a flirty lamp in the room.
Well the emotions suck... to say the least. One time you can cheat on someone, after that they feel sad but suddenly oh! a decoration! i'm not sad anymore!
The ONE thing I've ever had to work for in this game is trying to have a baby with Greg... and even then you have to pay for the werewolves pack. 💀 Still haven't managed. Had a spellcaster with just about every relevant potion and spell in the book to use on him, still started immediately failing the moment she got scared.
This was because they had intended Sims 4 to be The Sims Online reborn, essentially, but with the failure of the Sim City release that came shortly before, they panicked and had to completely redesign the core gameplay. Now, a less shady developer would have just been honest about this with the fan base and delayed the launch... But we should all know by now that EA does not operate that way. They just stuck to the original timeline and tried to play it off like it wasn't a total hack job.
@@rebeccalassetter1726 Hey, at least Paradox usually makes interesting DLC for their games. I haven't seen a single recent EA game that's interesting, let alone their DLC.
The Sims 4 so often just feels like a series of chores. You want to join a werewolf pack? Get ready to make your sim do the same few things over and over again, interrupting other gameplay or you'll get warnings. You want to teach the infants new things? Oops, looks like they've been awake for two seconds, they need a nap. Oh and they've got a quirk that means even getting them to sleep is a chore. You want a sim to have a certain lifestyle? Gotta stay on top of that too! It's just boring. It feels like I constantly have to stop playing the game to complete repetitive and unnecessary tasks.
I feel the same way about the aspirations!! In the other games, you had a lifetime wish: one thing your sim wanted to accomplish that would set them up to be happy pretty much forever once they’d done it. In Sims 4, it’s just another chore list. Not just a goal, but specific steps that you have to complete in order to reach that goal. There’s no autonomy; it’s like they have to tell you how to play because otherwise you might not realize it’s a game.
the babies are literally the worst. especially with the bugs. i tell my sim to feed the child and suddenly they can’t put the baby in the high chair and just do something else. even with sim automation off? then i almost get the damn kids taken away which was the entirety of the storyline EYE had to craft on my own. i remember i was so excited to get the sims 4 (i had never played the previous games) just for this to be what i get in the base version. glitches. nothing outside the home, mostly uninteractable jobs, school, infants, no pets, no other sims, no NOTHING. everything is locked behind a $40 dollar pay wall that you have to pay for everything separately, and honestly, it’s just sad. i’d rather just play minecraft. at least i KNOW i’m building my own story.
Peak The Sims 4 gameplay: 1) create a Sim 2) build a House 3) repeat infinitely the first or second choice depending on what do you like mostly 4) Forget you own the game 5) repeat
Alternatively: 1) Create a beautiful sim or yourself as a sim (process takes 5 hours) 2) Try to create a beautiful house knowing damn well you can't build (or if you can then good for you, but you still won't be using it) 3) Play for 5 minutes 4) Get bored 5) Forget the game and not play it for a year 6) Uncover the game after a year and start playing again 7) repeat step 1
What I really hate is that if I go out with one sim, the rest of the sims at home don’t get anything done and their needs go to shit because you can only control the sim you’re off the lot with. In TS3, you could take your sim to the park and everyone else at home will take care of their needs, work on skills, etc. I get that the open world caused lag but it really made the game feel alive and realistic.
Nah, the game would be fine with the open world if EA wanted it. I play TS3 with performance fixes and I can't recall the last time I had lags or drops in FPS. If modders can fix game performance, then why a billion dollar company can't do the same?
i just want things to happen to my sims!! nothing bad ever happens unless you go to great lengths to make bad things happen. i just want some surprise scenarios to happen to spice up my sims lives.
One of my male sims gazed at the night sky. Then he got kidnapped by aliens. He came back pregnant and gave birth to a green black-eyed alien baby. His wife and the sim got a "normal" baby too, but the strange half siblings got along very well. Another sim looked at the sky and got hit by a satellite. At first I was sad until I sold the satellite and got rich (I didn't know about money cheats back then).
@@noelle2661 this kinda reminds me of how my astronaut sim was also gazing at the night sky with equipment then she randomly got hit by a meteorite, and about two days (in-game) later she messaged her wife as a ghost asking her out on a date 😭
I think the relationships are so shallow which isn't that fun for family gameplay. I get that there are limitations but eh. I get bored when my sim cheats on her spouse and he's upset yet still has an entire conversation with her. So unrealistic. I think if a spouse cheats then the other sim could initiate the divorce and move out of the house. That would be awesome
I agree... when I play Sims 3, if a Sim gets caught cheating, their partner will immediately divorce them. Best part is, I don't even have to control them, they do it themselves. The AI of the Sims 3 is so much better!
I think it's a great idea in theory, but sims 4 is so broken that even if you didn't want your sim to cheat they might just choose to cheat. Anyone that wanted a generations game might constantly face the problem of their sims cheating and breaking their generations gameplay by constantly cheating. Because you know, the sims team didn't take time to code Townies beyond anything basic. The sims fans have so many great ideas, but the reality is TS4 is so broken that none of these good ideas even CAN be implemented.
Does anybody else remember the statement EA made regarding reception of the Sims4? That if we didn't unquestionably LOVE it, they would not make a Sims 5. They literally blackmailed the community to adopt it, or they'll abandon the game. I think that threat is worthy of a video unto itself.
And this is one reason some other life simulation games are aiming to compete or take over the genre. But unlike TS4, it'll be the first for all of them (3 atm) so they at least *have* an excuse to have limitations and not necessarily be what we expected from TS4.
The biggest difference between the Sims 4 and earlier games is that the townies are almost entirely designed to be NPCs you occasionally interact with instead of pre-made characters you can play instead of making your own. That does really make it boring, since everything is about one household and you have to work to interact with the rest of the world.
Right, when you start a new game no one has any relationships outside their household and they have no skills and they're all the beginning of their career, how is that realistic? Just another example of how shallow the game is right from the jump
@@kxx8855 I think this is a legacy of Project Olympus and the original plan to makes Sims 4 an MMO. The townies would literally just be NPCs while the people you were really supposed to interact with were the ones with a human behind them. The townies were just set dressing and never got an upgrade when the MMO idea got scrapped.
I use to love how in the Sims 3, Sims would just hook up with each other. I know they have life stories now, but it actually doesn't work, and it has nothing to do with relationships. I can't stand how you turn on 'adopt' a pet and the Sim goes NUTS and fills there house. I've also noticed recently as I micromanage townies as they won't do anything or have kids unless I make them.... the SIMS delete Sims if you have too many. I've had ENTIRE households of TOwnies just disappear. The horse trainer woman... Grove.. deleted from my game. 1 family in Growing Together the star of the trailer... COMPLETELY DELETED! I hate the family tree also! And the INCEST gettogethers you can do is just wrong. lol
@@kxx8855if you create a story like it says to start a new game, you will have a Sim that has a career and skills. I did this once to see how it worked.
@@annekeener4119 yes you're absolutely right, and it's actually pretty infuriating in hindsight that the devs were so lazy they didn't bother to change this knowing the immersion of the world is such a big part of the success of the other Sims titles, especially when you couple it with all the rabbit holes and bugs 😭
The sims 4 is boring and if someone says otherwise they are delusional the game is boring bc there is NO GAMEPLAY NO MATTER HOW MANY PACKS YOU BUY OR MODS YOU INSTALL IN
I recently became the owner of every single ts4 dlc (don't buy anymore ea, pirate it) and I'm amazed that people *actually* pay thousands of dollars for these DLC packs and I'm sitting here...still...bored? *With all the DLC?* What is that?
Tell ‘em about it ! No matter how much money - I spent about $200 and gameplay still was boring ! I’ll never buy another pack but I still download mods because they at-least add something . Mods should be compensated for making the game more entertaining
I hate that everyone I meet in the game is dazed, and it takes forever to get them into another mood, just for them to leave because their social timer has ran out
in sims 2 leaving my game unpaused meant that some of my sims died, someone got divorced because they randomly cheated on their spouse, children were either crying or taken away, everybody had mental breakdowns all around. in sims 4 they're slightly unhappy
It was fun. I remember I held a wedding In Sims 2 and everyone had to piss and I said idgaf you will get married so everyone peed themselves and someone was crying 😂
I remember leaving my Sims 2 game unpaused and the teen cooking something, causing a fire and the kid falling unconscious from exhaustion into the fire and dying. It's been almost 20 years and I still remember my Sims 2 families with such fondness.
Traits "so un-impactful" is so right. My booklover sims never read unless I make them and that applies to all traits. They want the computer to chat even when they have full social and a houseful of guests, or they just want to dance even though I've given them many different likes and even tried dislike dance. They still dance and don't like it but don't stop. I have to force everything and pretend it's fun. S4 removed almost everything that made TS fun and every time I quit having fun, which is usually when I quit building, I hate EA. PLUS, too safe for sure! It's made for 8yr olds, not teen. Well I'm 71 and have played since 2000 so I'd like at least teen rating lol
In Sims 3 the Sims had great personality. A clumsy Sim had so many different interactions and animations (even dropping the ring while proposing). Sure, some traits impacted gameplay more than others, but my bookworm Sims autonomously read, a neurotic had constant breakdowns, my environmentally friendly Sim got positive moodlets from interactions like using recycling bins, hanging the clothes to dry (instead of using a dryer), riding a bike or carpooling, etc. Otherwise, they'd get a negative moodlet. Sims 4 Sims can have any trait and it wouldn't keep them from interactions or push preferences (e.g. reading a book over watching tv)
So true. You can literally flirt with anyone even if they are married or gay and sleep with them and they won't stop you cuz they are made to follow orders like dolls. And it will only take a few interactions. It is so easy and unrealistic.
love the section on ts4 being too safe, you covered that so well. nothing is ever surprising or shocking in ts4, it very much feels like an endless beige sludge of gameplay.
I mean to be fair my toilets (unupgraded ones, so no compost) keep lighting on fire whenever my sims use them for seemingly no reason. If that's not surprising, I don't know what is. But yeah for the most part it's all pretty predictable.
The only time I was suprised is when my sim died of playfullness/laughter, but he had of course had his life easily saved by his wife pleading to the grim reaper.
@@salientspoonMy fridge in ts4 also catches fire all the time. But I don’t think it would kill the sims as long as you call for firefighters/put out fire? My sim in ts3 used to be killed by fire when she tried to put out the fire herself
@@小小小莉柚 Yeah it's not going to kill you but it does give your sim a fear of fire and makes them really tense for a couple days which is really annoying. Especially since once they're scared of fire they're more likely to accidentally start them.
13:38 - To be fair, they’re not blind, they can see how much we’re shitting on the sims4 (rightfully so.) I have played the Sims since the sims2. I am autistic and it became my absolute special interest. I have so many issues with this game for most of the reasons you have listed so far, especially when it comes to: this at this point is an INVESTMENT. EA has created a system in which they genuinely understand that we will buy regardless because right now there is no competition. They understand that no matter how much we bitch, they have certain deadlines to release by, broken or not, and I genuinely think that has been their biggest downfall. I would much rather wait longer for more gameplay, or better interactions. I literally can’t keep doing the Strangerville Mystery over and over just to feel like my sim actually has some sort of purpose other than to essentially be a Barbie doll. I have invested easily $1,000+ into this game, and I still feel that we are lacking SO MUCH than what we were in previous games. I used to be able to make a sim, their house, with a cat, and not feel fucking exhausted afterwards and get off the game.
They can see that the players hate it, but what if that makes them more money? If the base game is so boring and it makes u think that DLC will make it better u will buy more and more DLCs. EA is a company, it doesnt care about you being happy rather than them getting as much money as possible
My very first sim family in Sims 2 were all tragically killed in a house fire, like 20 minutes into the game. You just don’t get that kind of excitement in Sims 4😂
Haha yes exactly what's missing. The randomness, in the Sims 4 you'd get a pop up asking you if you'd say that your family would be killed in a house fire tonight. In the Sims 1 I had so many sims die of burning to death just cause I forgot to put up a fire alarm. That's the stuff that makes it fun, stuff happening to you to which you have to react and adept.
to be fair, one time one of my poor sims who is into politics was protesting outside one of my millionaire families for the cause of simeoleons for all or smth and while she was doing that one of the sims from the rich family set herself on fire and caused a huge fire inside the house to which i couldn't do anything, because i was playing as the poor sim. so now the rich family is tragically grieving their lost daughter lol...
Everytime I play the sims 4, I get frustrated because it feels like every single sim (including the one you're controlling) is fighting against you. I try to go on a hangout or date, but the group mechanic is horrible and they're constantly trying to do their own thing. Interacting with the world feels stiff and janky, and as soon as you make any form of progress the sims decide its time to go home and you have to restart, or, in my case, get bored and do something else entirely.
Sims 3 was my first sims game and so it holds a special place in my heart. My best moment: I was throwing a pool party and a meteor hit and killed four people and my house caught fire. It was amazing. I tried so, so hard to get into Sims 4 but nothing fun like a meteor ruining your party ever happens.
Oh Sims 3 was also my first, I remember the fricking meteors, honestly they were too much sometimes, they wiped out my families various times, every day I had 2-5 meteors. My sims were on the constant run to not get killed and lived in the basement. I think that was something Wrong with my Game and meteor rates.
i agree, Sims 3 is a certified hood classic. esp the Seasons expansion pack when your male Sim can just be randomly abducted by aliens and he returns pregnant and gives birth to an alien baby lmao, i even got the chance to either keep it and raise it as my own or return it to the aliens
I've played all 4 sims games and a moment that always stuck out to me in the sims 3 was my politicians' "killer" fundraiser party. Never invite 5 vampires to a single party because they always arrive hungry if not starving. At each party I always call all guests for a meal to keep them happy and content. Not the hungry/starving vampires before they had finished eating and could get some plasma the first vampire died setting off a spiral of all 5 vampires dying one after another of starvation due to the usual death shenanigans the only survivor of those 5 was the one who had the unlucky trait. The game still called it a fantastic party despite the killing of more than half of the invited guests. The Sims 3 could be weird like that.
You perfectly described my attitude to TS4. It is utterly, utterly lifeless and no matter how much I try to create interesting drama, the game frantically puts it back to boring 'happy' Stepford Wives mode. I keep going back to TS3 which has such interesting gameplay with brilliant behaviour animations, traits, and so much more.
I remember every time a new expansion pack for The Sims 3 came out, I'd take the time to read every household description in the new world to get into the lore. Now, everything feels so EMPTY, empty of lore, empty of stories. EA is doing the bare minimum and it shows.
talk about excitement lol, sims 3 never failed for its descriptions, i still have the original dlc discs and even the package feels more exciting than any sims 4 dlc 🥲
There's also a lack of incentives. In older Sims versions you would get different car pools depending on how you progressed in your job and you needed to visit downtown in order to buy clothes.
I loved getting a sewing machine and having my elder Sims make the younger Sims their wedding gowns. 🥹 Having to buy/make the clothes made them matter.
i'm a cartoonist, illustrator, and graphic designer. sims 4 is what i go to when i wanna test out some ideas i have for characters or locations, if i need to visualize a fleeting idea that i like so i don't lose it. sims 2 and 3 are what i go to when i want to play a computer game. (usually sims 2 since i have the ultimate collection, but either way lol)
yeah i also just use sims 4 for the cas and build mode options, i like making characters and posing them. that's nothing more than a dress up game though like you can barely call this software a game
Without mods or your own doing nothing happens in this game. In the Sims 3 (i barely remember Sims 2) there's so much going on you forget about your own Sims 😂
I was playing sims3 for the first time, took my kids to the cemetery to search for rocks and i ended up finding out i can just remove graves from the mausoleum??? Thats literally robbing graves and i love it
Plus you didn't have the SAME Sims everywhere you went! If you went to the park in 3, there were specific Sims, and then you could travel (without load screens) to the library and see *other* Sims, not the same ones from the park. I'm soooo tired of, for example, Nancy Landgraab jogging down the road in Oasis Springs and then when I go (with load screens, sigh) to Willow Creek, there's Nancy Landgraab....again...jogging down the road. I know I could use Carl's mod to limit the worlds to only Sims who live in those worlds, but considering how empty and shallow The Sims 4 is, that isn't much better as I would hardly see *any* Sims then.
@@ravenlord7144 The Sims 3 being open world was one of the greatest things about it. no unnecessary loading screens just to view another community lot. you can pretty much spy on your neighbors and see their own personal lives taking place
Watching Plumbella’s Sims iceberg makes it so obvious how lacking in storytelling and depth the Sims 4 is compared to the Sims 2. It was actually so depressing to watch😂.
I'm a creative and I love to make stories with the Sims 4, but too much control and the lack of random wackiness do make the game boring most of the time.
EA is so boring up to the fact the modders have to be the heroes aka 'unpaid' workers to help make this game alive. Like, goddamn, it's that embarrassing for a billion-income company to be able to sink this low. 🙈🙈🙈
That's exactly what happened, and I think that this can be legally actionable if enough modders complained about it. Modders were tricked into becoming an extension of this game's development team and tech support without being fairly compensated.
When I try to get mods it wont work and it just makes it so I can’t enter the game anymore and I have to go hours and hours just so I can actually click on the game
TS4 needs a HUGE update where they make it into an Open World update...EA doesn't even realize that the reason why Simmers call it boring bc the neighborhood is barely interactable. Its the uncanny valley/liminal space effect where the map is so big and yet you are confined in a space with lifeless npc with no stories
This is the best description of it, liminal space, literally feels like you’re trapped in either your house or a park bc those are the only decently interactive places
The open world made Sims 3 unplayable on a lot of devices. An Open World update to 4 would just be a "Haha, you like playing this game? Well, too bad, it's now non-functional!" to like, 30% of the playerbase, at least.
@@herowither12354 That's true. It should be done in a new, separate version, that one can choose to install or not, according to one's system capabilities.
Well, while playing ts4 I thought that maybe I was too old for it. But then I decided to play ts3. In 4h my vampire sim died (as I forgot that hunger k!lls them), so I decided that my other sim would obtain a ginie lamp to ressurect them. It worked and I got the ginie in the household, he wanted to be a criminal, ok. After some time he got arrested and another sim went to free him with the drill that I have no idea where they had gotten it from. There are so many unplanned things happening in ts2 and ts3 while playing, but sadly not in ts4.
This! I fondly remember a save in ts3 where the grandfather randomly got abducted by aliens and got pregnant. Shortly after having the child, he died and my sim and her boyfriend (Moritmer) needed to care for the child. Totally unplanned and not the way I was planning to play the game! I think the story progression is what ts4 is missing. You have to force events to happen, they don't come naturally too often.
I recently started trying to play the sims 3 on a newer windows 11 laptop. Sadly it doesn't work well on windows 11. But in my short time playing, I made a sim who was a paranormal investigator in Midnight Hollow. She went to the home of some ghosts to carry out a career task. During the task, the mother ghost went into labour and my sim took her to hospital. The ghost came out of hospital with a non-ghost child! I assumed it was a bug because I was in the middle of a career task when it happened, but it made for an amusing story.
@@kateschmid2889 funny enough thats not a bug, but actually a feature of how genetics work in the game. The baby can inherit the supernaturalism from their mother or dont, if the father is a normal human.
Lazy Duchess has a lot of mods for the sims 3 to work better on newer pc's :) It totally saved my life. Especially the Alder Lake Patch @@kateschmid2889
I'm surprised they keep adding new death types because I don't think I've ever seen a sim die in this game. I even tried to get one electrocuted by getting him to repair the TV when he was in a bad mood. I had him pee himself next to the TV to create a puddle but he still wouldn't get shocked. Eventually I even resorted to breaking the TV and creating puddles over and over using cheats and he didn't even get electrocuted once, let alone twice which is a requirement for death. There's no challenge in this game.
I had a sim randomly die from an asteroid. Out of nowhere. It gave me a pop up saying get inside & I was like what??? & then BOOM asteroid. I also had the kitchen catch fire 3 times in which another one of my sims died from being burned alive bc the “extinguish” option wasn’t working, none of my other sims were extinguishing. It almost happened again but I paused it & figured out the steps I needed to take to extinguish. & the living room also caught fire. Also all of my appliances need to be repaired ever like couple days. Every time I turn around it’s a spewing faucet or a broken shower. It’s just crazy. I miss sims 2
When I played the Sims 3 and got the Nightlife and vampire pack for free because of a deal I had SO MUCH fun. I could have one sim at home cooking, another at work, one at a friend's house, and one at a club. Instead of having to go through a loading menu every time I wanted to switch locations, I had all the sims in my arsenal and could do multiple things at once. The nightclubs were really fun and there were also celebrities that you could talk to in order to make your sim famous. Don't even get me started on vampires. They had super speed, cool red eyes, different traits and conversation ideas with them, and more. Compare this to the sims 4. I can only control ONE sim at a time. If I have a sim at the club that's the only one I can interact with while my other sims are frozen in time. If I want to do anything else I have to go through a loading screen. So instead of doing multiple things I just take all the sims with me so I can play with all the sims at once. Instead of being able to see what my neighbors are doing through the camera and popping up at their house like in the Sims 3 I have to go through a loading screen and hope that the neighbors are there. The only thing that the sims 4 does better is the CAS, which can easily be by passed with mods.
@@LivenUp7 I'm assuming u mean there's a setting to turn it off or on? I ment the get famous thing where you get a pop up when your sim is at work to either end up fired or promoted or change nothing but it dosent pop up much n I think your sims has to be atleast 1 star and have the fame perk under the celeb serum (can't remember the name lol) but if there's another way pls let me know
the sims 3 was my first sims game- and I loved it. I played through one of my first sims' entire life, He had a career, he had a wife, he had 6 kids, he had a full life. I spent hours expanding his home and creating stories. I think I spent over 100 hours just on that one save and that was without ANY EXPANSIONS. In the sims 4 I have over 5 packs/expansions, yet I can never spend more than a few hours on a single save. it's so boring, bare, and greedy.
After not touching Sims for over a decade I started playing it and instantly noticed a lot of things "not right" with it. My first try was a generic character, a tutorial for myself to get familiar with the game. Bought the cheapest land in the first world, built the smallest house with all the features to cover my basic needs and gave it a go. In first 5 min I think I met like over 20 neighbors who were ringing on my door, wanting to greet me. On the second day one of them asked if she can come over and stay for a while to which, despite being very surprised by the insanity of it, I said yes. She then came with her whole family which was in ruins so they fought and argued all the time making everyone in the house getting debuffs. Their son kicked the hell out of the trashcans so I got a trashplant plague going. Overall my house became trafficed like an LA highway where people constantly ringed the bell and hung out in my house 24/7. Later that Vampire dude came over and started messing and breaking all the little stuff that I had left. Whats with all those trashcan kicking?! Despite being an honest and hard worker I couldn't pay the insane bill of over 650$ (until today i have no friggin clue why it was sso expensive!) so I ended up in a dead loop - no devices and no water means bad mood and huge debuffs, means no promotion or loan increase, means i can't pay the bills and get my character back into a good buffed mood. All that while my house gets rekt by 20+ people daily. Again THAT is the MOST BASIC and generic start you could have! My second try was in that pet-village which was the complete opposite and is actually a chill and nice gameplay at least for the start.
I hate the loading screen so much that I avoid the texts from friends asking me to come over and I also avoid using high school years because of the loading screen. It’s shoved in my face so much that I’m not using 80% of my packs. The most I use of my packs is in the house my sims live in.
One time save and go to manage worlds froze on that loading screen. It still saves, but now I have a new fear of the loading screen. "Your sim has a fear of loading screens, in the social menu try asking EA for reassurance" ... "It seems talking to EA made your fears worse, lol now you have a festering grudge toward EA" "Your sim wants to break up with EA"
I tried to play in a different way . My sim is a male who is a serial romantic. At one point he was flirting with a girl and they he started to flirt with another girl. The first girl didn’t care about the second one, but the second one just accepted to get married with him. Then for some reason she freaked out and started a fight. I made them elope, but she was still angry. Then he asked for the divorce and now she cries and cries. I have tried many times to make her leave, but she won’t. I think I’m going to build a pool and you know the rest. He is always embarrassed because she won’t accept his apologies.
I am of the opinion that the Sims 5 should literally just be the Sims 2 with updated graphics, maybe also with the open world from the Sims 3 (although that eventually made my Sims 3 games a buggy, laggy nightmare). I agree with everything you said, the Sims 4 is a mess and I get bored with it so easily, and the game-breaking bugs that they don't care about are so frustrating. I hate the Sims 4 wants and fears. Bring me back to the good ole days of the Sims 2 when my sim both wanted and feared having a baby. Bring back the drama.
Sims 2 was definitely the best in terms of gameplay for me. Loved the life goals and short term wishes and fears. The thing that really improved in sims 3/4 is the building options for me. So if they could just combine the gameplay of 2 with the build mode of 4 that would be great for sims 5
Considering that Sims 3 was released 2009-2014, while Sims 5 will be released in the second half of the 2020s, it personally don't think that an open neighborhood is likely to cause similar problems. Overy few people will play Sims 5 on the same PC they played Sims 3 on.
I really really just wish they remade the Sims 2 with the building mode and CAS of the Sims 4. I have to give it to them, The Sims 4 has the best CAS and building in the series.
Talking about "Death by mold..." That clip just looks so... childish, so... unrealistic... Ugh I just hate that they've made the Sims 4 like a Sesame Street Show...
Egh, I don't mind it. Sims has always had weird quirky stuff. Cowplant is a good example. I like that stuff. My elder squeeing like a child tho over whoo hoo with his partner is a bit childish for his in-game age. Because the game was designed for the young adults life stage and everything else is tacked on, that stuff is kinda stupid.
i’ll never forget when i was around 14 and i made a big new family in the sims 3. one of them decided to make waffles and before i knew it the entire kitchen was on fire and half of my family had burned to death. that could never happen in the sims 4
I had a couple of friends that I played the Sims 3 “with”. We used to call each other and talk about things that happened in the game. It was better than gossiping about reality tv shows. One friend in particular had so much drama and crazy things happen in her world that it used to take hours to talk about what happened over the weekend. 🤣🤣🤣
Still remember when three kids died because of a meteor strike at their school. I was playing/talking with my brother and we were shocked for days lol. Random horses and pets running around.
Plus they completely shat on the lore. Instead of expanding on what the first 3 games did, they were like nah Sims 4 is in an alternate reality so none of that stuff matters
tbh someone made the connection from the Bella lore, sims 4 was made this way to show Alexander (which we see a book he wrote in sims 3, when he shouldnt be alive yet) went back in time to save his mother and sims 4 is Bella now being alive. Not sure who did the thoery but its pretty cool take
@@yomamafatasf you do know EA is the main guy they dont make the sims right? Lindsey is the boss man so she makes the final calls for the sims games. It is funny when people think EA themselves make sims 4, no its a team inside EA the only thing EA does is rush the teams they dont give a rats ass about storylines, that is the sims team which Lindsey is the head of
@@kaito2386the good thing is that stuff just ... happens, when you least expect it So one time all my clients in vet clinic decided to just start having an orgy in the bathroom, while my sim and pets waited for their owners to get it over with and finally pay. And tbh that was one of the rare funny things I had happen in sims 4
@@kaito2386I think ppl forget wicked whims has wayy more explicit game play then just sex. Fighting, cheating, gangs, realistic expectations. Short answer because it’s more fun than the base game.
It feels like a bunch of talented people created a game and then they sold it to a big company, it's like a Netflix movie plot. They watered it down, they made it a cash cow, they slapped people with tiktok culture
@jaymarie8065 that's actually such a good point that I never thought of because I NEVER READ THAT STUFF but someone took the time to write it. And... what a waste of time and resources.
I once tried to create my own world with my own townies. i made a bunch of families so that all the kids could grow up together in the same neighborhood so that they could grow up together and interact more authentically cause they would have known each other their whole lives. but it got so boring because it would take so long to load each house and getting them to know one another was a long and difficult process. i stopped playing it, then all these packs that would go with my town came out and i thought about going back to it. but the game is TOO SAFE. not enough wackiness to really pull me back in . :(
I personally find the sims 4 boring because i find it too easy. I got my family to go from 0 sim dollars to 2 million sim dollars in one life stage purely by working and selling crafted items. My starter sim has now mastered every skill, completed several life goals, has nearly every unlockable personality trait and it’s just like … what now ? It’s had zero impact on her family or the world around her
That’s another point satch brings up often. The economy of the game is broken and doesn’t make any sense anymore. You can actually become a millionaire by selling crafted items like you said, or even by having a small vegetable garden in your backyard and selling those every day
to be honnest i loved your challenge where you did play with all the lot challenge at the same time, in this let s play a lot of things happened naturally and made a story (the vampire, your sim that take the storm on the face an gained storm power, ect). even if i don't expect that extent of chaos in a normal let s play i would like more stuff like that to happen naturally.
My biggest gripe is that it’s too quick and easy to progress. Within an hour or two you can go from homeless to married with kids and living in a mansion. It should be 10x more difficult and have way more real life struggles to work through.
agreed. call me old fashioned but i love the realism of Sims 3 and how it would take several generations just to save up enough Simoleons to buy a nicer and bigger house in a more affluent neighborhood. i'm weird for being too lazy to download mods and cheats, but for me personally, i like working to buy what i want lol
I like the fun I've had playing the sims 3 more than the sims 4. My sim was getting married to her husband and during the ceremony THE GAME TURNED THE GROOM INTO A ZOMBIE. In the end the wedding party failed, my sim was upset, the guests were disappointed, the fiancee was a zombie which I was scrambling to cure. It was hilarious and unexpected, it was more memorable than any marriage event in the sims 4. Another highlight was the Grim reaper accidentally having CC on and being a completely void black human with noticable abs and bleach jeans. 😂 I was like hot damn Grimmy, is that what you're hidding under that robe!
As for Grim, its an actual sim in the game, so after a good while playing, he would be able to age up and the game replaces him with a new one. Thats what potentially happened here for you.
I have a similar story. As a kid when I was playing TS3 I had this random idea for my Sims to get married in bathing suits. And when they were about to share their first kiss as a married couple, I got ready to take a photo cause I was so proud and then a zombie appeared right between them! I was so mad I remember I nearly cried that the zombie absolutely destroyed my perfect wedding party, but it was so hilarious I had that picture saved for a long time
@@relash1345 i love the Grim Reaper. he would just come collect my dead Sim's soul, sit down at the TV to play video games afterwards, but when it's time for him to leave, MF breaks my TV LMAO
The thing that really put me off the sims 4 was the way that gameplay didn't continue in the background when you were fousing on a household or single sim. For example i followed my sim out to town to go dancing and she left her children at home with the grandparents. When she got back at 3am the children were still awake and whole household were still awake with low needs and they didn't fulfil their needs while that sim was away. In the sims 3 the world carries on by itself when you focus on a single household or sim. You would get back home and everyone would be in bed asleep. And have eatern. And have done things while you have been away. And i missed that!
They dont even punish you for staying inside for too long, I remember in sims3 I HAD to go outside sometimes and explore just so my sim wasn't upset and going stir crazy, I remember getting to have my sim kids hang out behind the school playground, I remember repeatedly doing those silly pet quests in sims3 Pets Sims 4 at this rate I just play it to design houses and play with werewolves And caring for the kids is just annoying now One thing I HATE though is that I cant just load my game and if they're meant to be at school/work they DONT GO, and then my sim suffers because they didnt attend while in my sims 3 they'd automatically of gone if I switch to them
oh man i love how in Sims 3, there's just a law-enforced curfew for children and teens. if children are out past 11 PM or so, they don't really need a police escort. they just go home automatically without adult supervision. but teens actually get caught by the cops and your adult parent Sims can lecture their teens about staying out so late. it's so realistic
3:30 Is a good eye-opener. Look at the roads, unrealisticly unable to be used by vehicles given The Sims height. The Sims 4 is not only broken by nature but by logic also. The entire game really DOES feel like somebody held the line with wads of gum and silly string.
I remember when sims 3 was first released. We were all complaining about how underwhelming it was and all the features sims 2 had that it was missing. Little did we know…
I installed sims 3 to give it a try. In the first 20 minutes of gameplay [apart of the 2 hour CAS that I enjoy] my sim was made fun of by an other sim dressed as an alpaca, a portal opened on my lot to the future with her toddler, I was taught to fly with a jet pack, bought robot parts, and I met my sims future children [not all descendants liked her]. The amount of random craziness that came my way... the amount of things I could do on the new location... chefs kiss.
They really do hold your hand. Recently I've been starting my sims as homeless; just clicking the first empty lot and putting down a tent and party bush, etc. Start farming, making flower bundles, buy a cow, etc. They don't get Lyme disease or sick of sleeping on the ground. Sometimes it's embarrassing using the bush but there's never an accidental snake bite or anything. Nobody shames them for being homeless or poor, they sit right down on the stump and offer their fruitcake and talk about the campfire. Well, alright. What's the point, man. What are we even doing here?
How EA is supposed to care if simmers taught them no matter what crap they release people are willing to pay over 1000$ for packs that do nothing. As a teenager I spent happily my allowance to buy sims 3 packs. They were massive. When I saw sims 4 i pirated it, never spent money on this sad overpriced excuse of a game.
same! the cc & mod creators are whats making the game fun but even then, something is always broken or EA makes an update that fucks everything up and makes it buggy.
The BEST THING EA could ever do is to freakin play this video on a loop every day in the office until they FINALLY GET IT. Because you NAILED IT, over and over. All of this.
@@2freeIvX it's a bit like architects. So many of them love designing and talking about "brutalist concrete" but most of them want to live in a cozy house. One with a soul, and then not a soul that got the house number 666...
@@2freeIvX I doubt it's the developers themselves but EA management. They're the ones who decided to cut up all features in to separate packs, making it impossible for the devs to just ... make fun things that rely on stuff being there. Nothing gets to be fun when there's a dumbass in a suit sitting there griping about not making enough money.
I'm not really a big fan of complaining for the sake of complaining... but dude, you're absolutely right about everything you've said. The Sims 4 is just not working and it REALLY needs A LOT of adjustments. I think that the main problem is probably the thing you mentioned about The Sims 4 trying SO HARD to be safe and family friendly like dude... most simmers are teens and adults like wth, we want DRAMA, ACTION, CONTROVERSY!!!
5:30 the thing i don’t like about the traits are how unrealistic some are. like you said, what the flip is “child of the islands”? but what i really want is more realistic traits. like ones to do with sadness, or actual real life things. not every sim is cheerful all the time. it just annoys me that if you want realistic traits such as depression or disorders/disabilities you have to find mods.
#8 was a real eye opener to me since I don't buy packs for Sims 4 - just the free stuff and Cats and Dogs because I thought it would be better than it really was. I didn't realize how many of the features all did the same thing but applied to different packs. I think you really nailed it on listing the elements that make Sims 4 boring. I prefer playing Sims 3 with everyone on high autonomy and being surprised at what my sims and the townies do. For instance, in one recent Sim 3 session, the family I was with experience the death of a cat in their home (that wasn't their cat - probably one their cat invited over,) an alien abduction, an attempted burglary (failed because one of the household autonomously attacked and beat them up,) and a housefire. Sometimes if my sim is in a rabbithole, rather than speeding through everything, I just snoop around the area and see what everyone else is doing. I've see plenty of fights, flirts, betrayals, evil sims scaring others, parents playing with their kids, etc. The towns (with the exception of Bridgeport for some reason) seem so alive. I guess rather than have to "play pretend" on everything, I'd rather watch the story unfold and then fill in the details or interpret what is being said based on the thought/dialog bubbles. Doing all the heavy lifting is tedious.
I really miss the individual bios from The Sims 3. They were great for jotting down how a sim should be played, so if you left for a while, you could come back and quickly read up each sim’s bio to remember where you left off. Also I didn’t know The Sims 2 actually encouraged you to follow the townie stories! That’s so cool!!!
You're so right about there being a lack of depth. I only seem to really look forward to my game when, say, a kid is about to age up or someone is up to some romantic mischief or if I've created a restaurant or lounge and I'm anxious to see it in action
Every point, every single point you made. I wish they would just watch this. I don’t need it to be perfect, I want it to be fun. Something it’s predecessors somehow pulled off, even with all THEIR glitches we forget about
Literally, it doesn’t need to be perfect. Like I could play the sims 3 for hours even though the maps are so big my sims would freeze going location to location. I would honestly rather play the sims 3 and wait for a couple minutes for my sims to buffer, cause at least there was gameplay after
This is literally so spot on. I wish they would see this and really take this in when making sims 5… i need sims 2 storyline, interactions and interactiveness, sims 3 game packs and game play and open world and sims 4 build and buy and cas in one game plssss
They don’t let you lose your job is so true. I had a sim who didn’t go to work AT ALL because I was trying to get her fired. She didn’t show up for many weeks in-game, her phone rang and she got warned every day, but she still had her job. I gave up
I had the same with a kid I wanted to be a rebel and flunk school. He didnt go to school ONCE and I coudnt get the grade lower than a C, which they start out with.
@@MissSimsalot thqts a lie, a child needs to skip school around 3 times to get a D (depending how high the grade was) I know this because with my cult I cheat my children to A's so they can skip school and not get Fs and get taken away
Does anybody remember how cool it was to be a magician in Sims 3? You could go on to the stage to perform your own magic show, set your own decorations, and then maybe win the prize. That was so amazing
as someone who did grab the sims 4 the moment it was free, and proceeded to NOT play it until last week - it was fun for the first hour. it was the "oo shiny!!" mindset along with exploring all the features of the base game. then i decided to get the packs and .. wow. my save broke multiple times and i eventually gave up. a friend recommended for me to get the sims 2 and after doing so, i was completely amazed at how GOOD the sims 2 is despite it being an old game. the sims actually do things. yes, there's slightly less traits and some i wish were in sims 2, but the gameplay felt much better. there were actual reasons to keep playing through the game, to help your sims get their aspirations. they just felt alive. safe to say that i won't be going back to the sims 4 and will more likely fall into a hole of modding my sims 2 game and maybe check out the 3rd game if i want to take a break from ts2.
Satch u nailed it and i miss these creepy and scary things were happening in sims 2 and 3 even sims 1 but sims 2 is my favorite, they need to bring back burglars on sims 4. Sims 4 is so soft i'm tellin ya nothing scary at all
Oh my god yes, I didn't know I would have missed the burglars so much 😭 I started playing ts3 again recently and I got so scared when the creepy music started and the burglar beat the police up and got away in the end 😂
I feel like the older games had a purpose like wanting your sims to grow up well and filling up the aspirations meter. Also the memory system was much more complex like family members getting married, parents getting memories for teaching their kids something like we don't even have a first kiss milestone in the sims 4!
The difference between sims 4, sims 3, and sims 2. Sims 2 and Sims 3, i had to stop playing because i was super addicted. Sims 4 is just an endless cycle of nothing even with mods, i stop playing because its boring after a month or so of playing. I think what sims 4 lacks are consequences, I hate the fact that if you're straight up enemies with another sim they chit chat like its nothing. Lmao
Everything you covered is absolutely true (even if people cant admit it). Good quality non-buggy game play is BARE MINIMUM and we aren't 'Karens' for expecting that from the games we purchase. The Sims franchise used to be amazing but either people have forgotten everything we used to recieve (for less money!) or people have been trained by EA to accept cheaply made half baked games for twice the price we used to pay for actual gameplay.
In the sims 2 and 3 I never designed a house. I would literally buy a random house, put in some stuff I needed, not caring if it looks good. I would put on my Sims the first clothes that looked ok, and never changed it. I was so eager to get into the gameplay that the aesthetics didn’t matter. In the sims 4 I spend hours setting up the game, building, decorating etc, and then spend 5 minutes with gameplay before I get bored.
This is SO true !!! I Had Not thought of IT Like that but I am Like that as well 😂 No Matter the Looks - Just Play 🎉🎶💫
This is what happened to me with Create a Sim. I spent hours having fun recreating my sims from 1 and 3 to perfection in Sims 4. Then I played the game and I was like, "Meh."
Same. Sims 4 is such a build and dress up game and it's all about aesthetics because there's no gameplay at all.
@@xoxo_noeEven the build tools aren't very user friendly since half the time it's so buggy. It makes the building part I usually like feel tedious
Tbh yeah?? It works surprisingly well as a sandbox Home and People creator and barely anyone would have complained if it was a game like this, but actually playing said families is like watching Paint dry
In sims 2 my sim broke up with her boyfriend. He didn’t take it well. For about a week, he would walk by her house at 4am and kick over her trash can. I always had to rush to clean it up to avoid roaches. In sims 3 my sim was a serial cheater and got called out for cheating in the middle of leading a protest. All the sims started booing her. I miss the wacky, unpredictable antics. I was going to uninstall sims 4 but my ten year old discovered it and has fun with it.
omg I forgot about the trash can thing lol
Yeah, that’s the thing. In older games, you could really fuck things up by doing the most innocent things. I’ve had games in Sims 2 and 3 where one small decision messed things up so badly that I ended up starting a new family lol. It was frustrating, but it was also entertaining.
nah even irl things can affect the sims 2. my ADHD said OOOO SQURREL a few weeks back and when i looked back at my game my sim was dead and her urn was in the kitchen. still no clue how she died cuz i reloaded (it was the start of my legacy so yeah i was like eh it's the start so reload i would have let her stay dead if she had a child already but she was still pregnant) she didn't burn cuz i would have heard the fire alarm. so my only idea is maybe she starved? idk either way i was so confused ahah
In 4 they still knock over the trash can but instead of it being somebody who hates your Sim & it’s drama it’s some random Sim with the Mean trait. It’s like Sims 4 *looks* like a Sims game but it’s missing the *essence* of a Sims game.
@@diyadreams or just a sim that is angry in general. like oh i'm feeling angry lemme kick over some rando's trash can
I hate how townies only show up when you enter an area. It’s like they don’t have their own lives and exist just to follow your sim.
They sometimes show up, but they still feel like lifeless husks without any hobbies or things to do.
That’s what I like about sims 3, sims would just be doing their own things in real time which made it seem more realistic. Even with mods that add more sims to lots like clubs, it didn’t feel like the sims were only there for your benefit it just made sense
me too like its so boring
i want to tell stories but its just so boring... like... i don't want to pretend that a story is happening??? I want the story to actually happen??? I don't want to have to orchestrate everything that I want to happen
@@hunty2500 Great argument, wow! Do you think they never thought about it?
They're just stating this because they wanted a better game, not for plain hate on EA. They seem to care tbh.
@@hunty2500most don’t, a lot are going to the older sims games. Hopefully almost everyone stops playing sims 4 eventually and get to older games.
@@hunty2500 why are you eating EA's ass? don't you want to fight for more? fight for better? they are fully capable of providing more, providing better but they don't. don't accept the bare minimum. I love the sims, and i want it to be better.
@hunty2500 "don't play the game then" "play the older games, then" Honestly, such tired arguments. We want to play new and improved games, not old ones. We want the Sims to IMPROVE and ACTUALLY be fun. We complain because there are so many missing features that a newer version of the game is supposed to have but are not there. No one is defending Sims 4 because its so crap compared to the previous editions. Honestly Sims 4 does not deserve to be defended, especially when there are greedy scummy devs and investors behind this that don't care what players really want and expect out of a life-sim game.
@@hunty2500it’s just not that simple because the problem is most people have already paid for a lot of the sims stuff whether it be game packs/expansions and so it’s not so easy just to “not play” when you’ve paid for it. It’s annoying that essentially ea gives such a half assed product for what you would want it to be
When I played Sims 1 over 20 years ago, I will never forget when I had a house party and hired an entertainer, a clown showed up went directly to my hamster and stole the entire cage - put it right in his pocket. Then he went to entertain the guests as if I didnt just see him steal my pet. Ive never forgiven and Ive never forgotten.
Sims 1,2,3 - Life happens around you and to you
Sims 4 - Youre the one who makes 'life' happen
Its actually criminal that fire doesnt spread.
pls thats so fucking funny bro is on ur hitlist
but ur so right
LMAOO this made me cackle
I think in my 300 hours of gameplay I've never seen something catch fire in TS4, while in TS2/3 I WAS ALVAYS HAVING TO PUT DOWN FIRES (yes, I was angry at the time, but now I miss it)
I love your comment so mutch I can relate to the life thing, true so true
Fire spreads, very very very slowly, I've visited people's houses in the Sims 4 and just enjoy watching it burn down completely and them alongside, it takes like 2 in game days though for a small apartment, if only house fires were that convenient in real life.
They don't want you to have fun...they want you to buy more packs. Sims 4 has nothing to do with being enjoyable. You're meant to chase the enjoyment by spending more money.
Did you spend money to buy all the packs? Dude, just download free . It's easy 🤣
@@joaninhaduarte501 I've never played Sims 4. I don't touch the free base game because I know it's a trick.
Eh that just might be the case. To be fair the whole pushing the boundaries with packs started to show it's ugly head sometime within TS3's lifecycle. It went full blown crazy with TS4 though.
@@joaninhaduarte501I know you can download for free but it gives virus
Did you just discripe capitalism?
i've never completed a sims 4 life cycle. it's just all the same stuff, same choices, same dialogues with townies. and all the fun stuff is hidden in the bunches of $40 packs. there's just not enough replay value!
I’ve actually never completed a life cycle either the most I got when university came out I got a baby to a young adult to go to university and the mom became an elder ☠️ once I got out of university I quit until the next pack came out and repeated the toxic cycle.
the fact that in ts3 i used to play with a family well into their eight or tenth generation without ever finding it boring but in ts4 i struggle to even get past the second generation because all sims just feel the absolute same no matter how much storytelling or diverse traits i try to implement. even an eight sim household is utterly lackluster and not at all challenging, its so disappointing but after 10 years of this bs i've lost faith in ea and am just waiting for other life sims to come out
i think thats a you problem in terms of creativity & play style cus i have plenty of fun playing generations of families. youre probably just not into that type of gameplay.
The craziest thing is I learned yesterday that liberals and conservatives have a lot in common... They're both anti fun with a ton of rules... You're not allowed to think like this, you're not allowed to play like this, you're not allowed to do this xyz... It's tiresome
I think I’ve gotten like 5 generations in before realizing every sim in the family had the same exact hobbies. Whether they were a world renowned surgeon or an A list celebrity or the president, they all liked to garden, and paint, and raise farm animals. There’s only a few activities that are actually interesting to do in the Sims 4 so every sim just ends up being the same person with the same hobbies and a slightly different career. Not to mention of course traits affect literally nothing so they’re especially just the same bland sim over and over
The sims aged down while the players aged up, thats the thing for me. Especially for the 1-2 players who grew up with the burglars, the horrifying sims 1 reaper music and fire screaming. Sims 4 feels like it's treating me like an ipad baby while im just LOOKING at it
YES
And to think before the sims 4 came out, we had a sims game where sims could straight up murder each other. Where did the edge go.
@@jessicathompson2914it’s so politically correct and it’s entirely performative lol. every single time a new pack comes out, I wait to see how quickly I find a someone with chopped blue hair that is gender neutral and it takes about 3 seconds at most. They want to appear as squeaky clean and socially perfect as possible, which is not something the sims ever was. Or at least it wasn’t the way they are trying to be. The Sims has always been super progressive compared to its peers but now it almost feels like they rely on stereotypes to say “look how inclusive we are” lol
Yeah, sims 4 is so mild and childish compared to Sims 1-3.
Never seen anyone say it better. It's odd to me how they targeted a younger audience when loyal players had grown up with the previous games. Talk about not being able to read the room.
The Sims 3 was the BEST. I miss being able to RUN through town and see my sims all over the map and not have to wait for a loading screen. And you could watch them drive around the world, you could build custom maps/worlds. Like where did it all go??
It’s still there, just do like I do, don’t touch sims 4 and stick to TS3 😄
EXACTLYYY
Omg same! I loved getting the fastest car and drive through town :D Aurora Skies was my favorite town.
And you can watch fireworks on map view! Many unique things in Sims 3
Yes, I miss that feature too. Now it seems very claustrophobic. But remember the loading screen at the beginning of the game in TS3, and every time you changed worlds? I remember it like a nightmare.
I heard someone say this one time and it made so much sense, the sims 4 is just a dollhouse game. You make your pretty sim and their perfect family and put them in their pretty house and that’s the game. This is so true bc everytime I get on the sims I make my pretty sim move them into their perfect house and then I’m bored and get off 🤣.
the worlds are also so huge but you can do nothing in them. I moved my Sim into one of those horsegame lots and the walkable world is huge but all you can do is sit on a parkbench or choose one of the ten spots that you can fish that also don't make any difference
@@LennyLeonard777 it’s honestly ridiculous
So true. I think I got as far as one sim having a kid that aged up to teen once, and that's the longest I've held out. I've given up on all Sims games except TS2 now, which I'm actually having FUN playing.
Yeah it's literally that. Nothing happens beyond your own planning and without your consent. I remember in the earlier games sims would get into fights with you or each other. Now I can cheat with someone's wife in front of them and they don't give a shit in terms of my relationship with them. This game really needed events and lifelike townies. They make the game, you can have all the most beautiful dollhouses in the world but if it feels lifeless and filled with robots who do exactly what you want it'll never get fun. It's probably why they market this towards kids. Their rich imaginations will have a field day with a game like this, but anyone older looking for more depth will ultimately be disappointed.
Exactly at this point it feels more like a architect type of game especially when the UA-camrs they promote for their game only make house builds and not a lot of gameplay at least from what I’ve seen tbh
The sims 4 IS boring though. Their slogan is literally about creating your own stories because they haven’t done any of it! Ts4 was a step way back before even sims 2 which did have stories, drama, proper animation, and engaging sims. The sims 4 is a dead game. Lifeless with no depth or drama
It is a digital version of playing doll, but insanely more expensive than any barbie stuff my parents ever got me when I was a kid lol
agree
The sims is about creating your own story.
Unfortunately yeah :(
“Create your own story (because we’re too f-king cheap to do it ourselves)” for the low low price of a few thousand dollars! What a steal!
Sims 3:
You made a Sim and reached the Emperor of Evil rank of the criminal career? Good luck keeping *anyone* around your sim.
Sims 4:
You cheated on me with 20 different Sims? Just put a flirty lamp in the room.
Well the emotions suck... to say the least. One time you can cheat on someone, after that they feel sad but suddenly oh! a decoration! i'm not sad anymore!
The ONE thing I've ever had to work for in this game is trying to have a baby with Greg... and even then you have to pay for the werewolves pack. 💀
Still haven't managed. Had a spellcaster with just about every relevant potion and spell in the book to use on him, still started immediately failing the moment she got scared.
🤣🤣🤣
The worst thing is how sims 4 slowly spoon-fed you features in DLC that were in the sims 2 & 3 BASE GAME.
This was because they had intended Sims 4 to be The Sims Online reborn, essentially, but with the failure of the Sim City release that came shortly before, they panicked and had to completely redesign the core gameplay. Now, a less shady developer would have just been honest about this with the fan base and delayed the launch... But we should all know by now that EA does not operate that way. They just stuck to the original timeline and tried to play it off like it wasn't a total hack job.
And charge you 40 bucks per pop for those "features". That to me is the most disgusting part.
Yeah, the paradox strategy
@@rebeccalassetter1726
Hey, at least Paradox usually makes interesting DLC for their games.
I haven't seen a single recent EA game that's interesting, let alone their DLC.
EA just took advantage of it lol. they turned greedy after ts4 was released, everything was made into dlc just to support profits from it
The Sims 4 so often just feels like a series of chores. You want to join a werewolf pack? Get ready to make your sim do the same few things over and over again, interrupting other gameplay or you'll get warnings. You want to teach the infants new things? Oops, looks like they've been awake for two seconds, they need a nap. Oh and they've got a quirk that means even getting them to sleep is a chore. You want a sim to have a certain lifestyle? Gotta stay on top of that too!
It's just boring. It feels like I constantly have to stop playing the game to complete repetitive and unnecessary tasks.
Exactly..especially when the event chores take 8hrs to complete. It’s just miserable
So.. just like 2 & 3? As they pretty much where the same
I feel the same way about the aspirations!! In the other games, you had a lifetime wish: one thing your sim wanted to accomplish that would set them up to be happy pretty much forever once they’d done it.
In Sims 4, it’s just another chore list. Not just a goal, but specific steps that you have to complete in order to reach that goal. There’s no autonomy; it’s like they have to tell you how to play because otherwise you might not realize it’s a game.
the babies are literally the worst. especially with the bugs. i tell my sim to feed the child and suddenly they can’t put the baby in the high chair and just do something else. even with sim automation off? then i almost get the damn kids taken away which was the entirety of the storyline EYE had to craft on my own. i remember i was so excited to get the sims 4 (i had never played the previous games) just for this to be what i get in the base version. glitches. nothing outside the home, mostly uninteractable jobs, school, infants, no pets, no other sims, no NOTHING. everything is locked behind a $40 dollar pay wall that you have to pay for everything separately, and honestly, it’s just sad. i’d rather just play minecraft. at least i KNOW i’m building my own story.
It feels like farmville. You do your daily tasks but none of it is fun
Peak The Sims 4 gameplay:
1) create a Sim
2) build a House
3) repeat infinitely the first or second choice depending on what do you like mostly
4) Forget you own the game
5) repeat
Alternatively:
1) Create a beautiful sim or yourself as a sim (process takes 5 hours)
2) Try to create a beautiful house knowing damn well you can't build (or if you can then good for you, but you still won't be using it)
3) Play for 5 minutes
4) Get bored
5) Forget the game and not play it for a year
6) Uncover the game after a year and start playing again
7) repeat step 1
Literallllly
What I really hate is that if I go out with one sim, the rest of the sims at home don’t get anything done and their needs go to shit because you can only control the sim you’re off the lot with. In TS3, you could take your sim to the park and everyone else at home will take care of their needs, work on skills, etc.
I get that the open world caused lag but it really made the game feel alive and realistic.
Yes omg! My sims will put the kids to bed, go out and when you come back home they are all up and doing stuff.
They even have the nerve to put a “take care of self” choice when you’re out and about but everything went to shit anyway…
Nah, the game would be fine with the open world if EA wanted it. I play TS3 with performance fixes and I can't recall the last time I had lags or drops in FPS. If modders can fix game performance, then why a billion dollar company can't do the same?
@@deemah3602 I wouldn’t want it to sacrifice the way the sims look though…or how they move in the game…I thought the sims 3 sims were all ugly lol.
@@deemah3602hey, where did you get the performance fixes? I'd like to try them!
I want sims 2 story telling , with the sims 3 open world and sims 4 graphic - and i stand by that
sims 4 graphics just too cartoon y
YESSSS we need this. i really hope sims 5 gets it right its such a shame at this point i dont think ill buy it if its not
@@monicaevans5745unfortunately EA announced there will be no Sims 5. Sims 4 is the endgame.
Paralives seems to be aiming to fill that niche. I really hope it turns out well 🙃
@@cassieknightt project rene is "the sims 5". it's literally the predecessor of sims 4
i just want things to happen to my sims!! nothing bad ever happens unless you go to great lengths to make bad things happen. i just want some surprise scenarios to happen to spice up my sims lives.
My man was getting married and died of embarrassment at his wedding on the Sims 4 and it turned into a funeral real quick :')
One of my male sims gazed at the night sky. Then he got kidnapped by aliens. He came back pregnant and gave birth to a green black-eyed alien baby. His wife and the sim got a "normal" baby too, but the strange half siblings got along very well.
Another sim looked at the sky and got hit by a satellite. At first I was sad until I sold the satellite and got rich (I didn't know about money cheats back then).
One time in an older version my sim got hit by a satellite and died.
@@noelle2661 this kinda reminds me of how my astronaut sim was also gazing at the night sky with equipment then she randomly got hit by a meteorite, and about two days (in-game) later she messaged her wife as a ghost asking her out on a date 😭
Storytelling! Just give us storytelling lol
I think the relationships are so shallow which isn't that fun for family gameplay. I get that there are limitations but eh. I get bored when my sim cheats on her spouse and he's upset yet still has an entire conversation with her. So unrealistic. I think if a spouse cheats then the other sim could initiate the divorce and move out of the house. That would be awesome
Or when a sims's spouse dies but they aren't upset since the room is really well decorated...
Fr!
REAL.
I agree... when I play Sims 3, if a Sim gets caught cheating, their partner will immediately divorce them. Best part is, I don't even have to control them, they do it themselves. The AI of the Sims 3 is so much better!
I think it's a great idea in theory, but sims 4 is so broken that even if you didn't want your sim to cheat they might just choose to cheat. Anyone that wanted a generations game might constantly face the problem of their sims cheating and breaking their generations gameplay by constantly cheating. Because you know, the sims team didn't take time to code Townies beyond anything basic.
The sims fans have so many great ideas, but the reality is TS4 is so broken that none of these good ideas even CAN be implemented.
Does anybody else remember the statement EA made regarding reception of the Sims4? That if we didn't unquestionably LOVE it, they would not make a Sims 5. They literally blackmailed the community to adopt it, or they'll abandon the game. I think that threat is worthy of a video unto itself.
And this is one reason some other life simulation games are aiming to compete or take over the genre.
But unlike TS4, it'll be the first for all of them (3 atm) so they at least *have* an excuse to have limitations and not necessarily be what we expected from TS4.
Looking at this comment now 🥲
The biggest difference between the Sims 4 and earlier games is that the townies are almost entirely designed to be NPCs you occasionally interact with instead of pre-made characters you can play instead of making your own. That does really make it boring, since everything is about one household and you have to work to interact with the rest of the world.
Right, when you start a new game no one has any relationships outside their household and they have no skills and they're all the beginning of their career, how is that realistic? Just another example of how shallow the game is right from the jump
@@kxx8855 I think this is a legacy of Project Olympus and the original plan to makes Sims 4 an MMO. The townies would literally just be NPCs while the people you were really supposed to interact with were the ones with a human behind them. The townies were just set dressing and never got an upgrade when the MMO idea got scrapped.
I use to love how in the Sims 3, Sims would just hook up with each other. I know they have life stories now, but it actually doesn't work, and it has nothing to do with relationships. I can't stand how you turn on 'adopt' a pet and the Sim goes NUTS and fills there house. I've also noticed recently as I micromanage townies as they won't do anything or have kids unless I make them.... the SIMS delete Sims if you have too many. I've had ENTIRE households of TOwnies just disappear. The horse trainer woman... Grove.. deleted from my game. 1 family in Growing Together the star of the trailer... COMPLETELY DELETED! I hate the family tree also! And the INCEST gettogethers you can do is just wrong. lol
@@kxx8855if you create a story like it says to start a new game, you will have a Sim that has a career and skills. I did this once to see how it worked.
@@annekeener4119 yes you're absolutely right, and it's actually pretty infuriating in hindsight that the devs were so lazy they didn't bother to change this knowing the immersion of the world is such a big part of the success of the other Sims titles, especially when you couple it with all the rabbit holes and bugs 😭
The sims 4 is boring and if someone says otherwise they are delusional the game is boring bc there is NO GAMEPLAY NO MATTER HOW MANY PACKS YOU BUY OR MODS YOU INSTALL IN
I feel like people genuinely don’t understand the difference between replay value and content.
I recently became the owner of every single ts4 dlc (don't buy anymore ea, pirate it) and I'm amazed that people *actually* pay thousands of dollars for these DLC packs and I'm sitting here...still...bored? *With all the DLC?* What is that?
Tell ‘em about it ! No matter how much money - I spent about $200 and gameplay still was boring ! I’ll never buy another pack but I still download mods because they at-least add something . Mods should be compensated for making the game more entertaining
I'm genuinely envious of people who don't get bored of The Sims 4
This is so true
I hate that everyone I meet in the game is dazed, and it takes forever to get them into another mood, just for them to leave because their social timer has ran out
THIS 😂
Omg i thought i was the only one and was because of mods probably🥲
Sounds like me help
in sims 2 leaving my game unpaused meant that some of my sims died, someone got divorced because they randomly cheated on their spouse, children were either crying or taken away, everybody had mental breakdowns all around. in sims 4 they're slightly unhappy
It was fun. I remember I held a wedding In Sims 2 and everyone had to piss and I said idgaf you will get married so everyone peed themselves and someone was crying 😂
I remember leaving my Sims 2 game unpaused and the teen cooking something, causing a fire and the kid falling unconscious from exhaustion into the fire and dying. It's been almost 20 years and I still remember my Sims 2 families with such fondness.
@steph.a91 yes. Sims 2 was the best! I'm thinking of playing it again
@@Gaibreel I'd love to but I'm not sure how to download it without giving my comp a virus lol
Well put
Traits "so un-impactful" is so right. My booklover sims never read unless I make them and that applies to all traits. They want the computer to chat even when they have full social and a houseful of guests, or they just want to dance even though I've given them many different likes and even tried dislike dance. They still dance and don't like it but don't stop. I have to force everything and pretend it's fun. S4 removed almost everything that made TS fun and every time I quit having fun, which is usually when I quit building, I hate EA. PLUS, too safe for sure! It's made for 8yr olds, not teen. Well I'm 71 and have played since 2000 so I'd like at least teen rating lol
OMFG YES I HATE IT. They are all the same and we have to pretend they r different
"They still dance and don't like it but don't stop" is kind of hilarious. It's sad, but hilarious.
In Sims 3 the Sims had great personality. A clumsy Sim had so many different interactions and animations (even dropping the ring while proposing). Sure, some traits impacted gameplay more than others, but my bookworm Sims autonomously read, a neurotic had constant breakdowns, my environmentally friendly Sim got positive moodlets from interactions like using recycling bins, hanging the clothes to dry (instead of using a dryer), riding a bike or carpooling, etc. Otherwise, they'd get a negative moodlet.
Sims 4 Sims can have any trait and it wouldn't keep them from interactions or push preferences (e.g. reading a book over watching tv)
“they still dance and dont like it but dont stop” thats poetic somehow
My sim, who is afraid of fire and also has a dog scared of fireplaces, is constantly trying to light and warm herself at fireplaces
i torrented my sims game with all dlcs and i didnt even REALIZE most things i was using were locked behind paywall/dlc, and i’m still INCREDIBLY bored
It's boring because you achieve everything too easily, I only enjoy playing Sims 4 on short lifespan. I like to struggle a bit.
Same when I play on normal it takes so to long for me and I’m bored before a baby is born
So true. You can literally flirt with anyone even if they are married or gay and sleep with them and they won't stop you cuz they are made to follow orders like dolls. And it will only take a few interactions. It is so easy and unrealistic.
@@javierybarra1973 Also you can literally "woohoo" every like 5 minutes lmao
love the section on ts4 being too safe, you covered that so well. nothing is ever surprising or shocking in ts4, it very much feels like an endless beige sludge of gameplay.
I mean to be fair my toilets (unupgraded ones, so no compost) keep lighting on fire whenever my sims use them for seemingly no reason. If that's not surprising, I don't know what is. But yeah for the most part it's all pretty predictable.
The only time I was suprised is when my sim died of playfullness/laughter, but he had of course had his life easily saved by his wife pleading to the grim reaper.
@@salientspoonMy fridge in ts4 also catches fire all the time. But I don’t think it would kill the sims as long as you call for firefighters/put out fire? My sim in ts3 used to be killed by fire when she tried to put out the fire herself
@@小小小莉柚 Yeah it's not going to kill you but it does give your sim a fear of fire and makes them really tense for a couple days which is really annoying. Especially since once they're scared of fire they're more likely to accidentally start them.
13:38 - To be fair, they’re not blind, they can see how much we’re shitting on the sims4 (rightfully so.) I have played the Sims since the sims2. I am autistic and it became my absolute special interest. I have so many issues with this game for most of the reasons you have listed so far, especially when it comes to: this at this point is an INVESTMENT. EA has created a system in which they genuinely understand that we will buy regardless because right now there is no competition. They understand that no matter how much we bitch, they have certain deadlines to release by, broken or not, and I genuinely think that has been their biggest downfall. I would much rather wait longer for more gameplay, or better interactions. I literally can’t keep doing the Strangerville Mystery over and over just to feel like my sim actually has some sort of purpose other than to essentially be a Barbie doll. I have invested easily $1,000+ into this game, and I still feel that we are lacking SO MUCH than what we were in previous games. I used to be able to make a sim, their house, with a cat, and not feel fucking exhausted afterwards and get off the game.
They can see that the players hate it, but what if that makes them more money? If the base game is so boring and it makes u think that DLC will make it better u will buy more and more DLCs. EA is a company, it doesnt care about you being happy rather than them getting as much money as possible
I have almost 3k hours in TS4 and have never completed a single sims life cycle. It gets too boring.
I imagine a very significant portion of that is in build mode and CAS :')
My very first sim family in Sims 2 were all tragically killed in a house fire, like 20 minutes into the game. You just don’t get that kind of excitement in Sims 4😂
Haha yes exactly what's missing. The randomness, in the Sims 4 you'd get a pop up asking you if you'd say that your family would be killed in a house fire tonight. In the Sims 1 I had so many sims die of burning to death just cause I forgot to put up a fire alarm. That's the stuff that makes it fun, stuff happening to you to which you have to react and adept.
to be fair, one time one of my poor sims who is into politics was protesting outside one of my millionaire families for the cause of simeoleons for all or smth and while she was doing that one of the sims from the rich family set herself on fire and caused a huge fire inside the house to which i couldn't do anything, because i was playing as the poor sim. so now the rich family is tragically grieving their lost daughter lol...
😂😂
@@PanBami2023haha I'm reading to this while there's a fire alarm in my house 😆
ps: don't worry it's a false alarm.
i totally agree with this but my last save in sim, i had a fire start the first 20 mins into gameplay and first time cooking 😭
Everytime I play the sims 4, I get frustrated because it feels like every single sim (including the one you're controlling) is fighting against you. I try to go on a hangout or date, but the group mechanic is horrible and they're constantly trying to do their own thing. Interacting with the world feels stiff and janky, and as soon as you make any form of progress the sims decide its time to go home and you have to restart, or, in my case, get bored and do something else entirely.
Sims 3 was my first sims game and so it holds a special place in my heart. My best moment: I was throwing a pool party and a meteor hit and killed four people and my house caught fire. It was amazing. I tried so, so hard to get into Sims 4 but nothing fun like a meteor ruining your party ever happens.
Oh Sims 3 was also my first, I remember the fricking meteors, honestly they were too much sometimes, they wiped out my families various times, every day I had 2-5 meteors. My sims were on the constant run to not get killed and lived in the basement. I think that was something Wrong with my Game and meteor rates.
i agree, Sims 3 is a certified hood classic. esp the Seasons expansion pack when your male Sim can just be randomly abducted by aliens and he returns pregnant and gives birth to an alien baby lmao, i even got the chance to either keep it and raise it as my own or return it to the aliens
@@andrewbui8295 And in the Sims 4 that exists as well but you have to trigger it with an antenna, the safe game again.
I've played all 4 sims games and a moment that always stuck out to me in the sims 3 was my politicians' "killer" fundraiser party. Never invite 5 vampires to a single party because they always arrive hungry if not starving. At each party I always call all guests for a meal to keep them happy and content. Not the hungry/starving vampires before they had finished eating and could get some plasma the first vampire died setting off a spiral of all 5 vampires dying one after another of starvation due to the usual death shenanigans the only survivor of those 5 was the one who had the unlucky trait.
The game still called it a fantastic party despite the killing of more than half of the invited guests.
The Sims 3 could be weird like that.
The sims 3 represents my childhood, I played so much and never get bored. Such a great game
You perfectly described my attitude to TS4. It is utterly, utterly lifeless and no matter how much I try to create interesting drama, the game frantically puts it back to boring 'happy' Stepford Wives mode. I keep going back to TS3 which has such interesting gameplay with brilliant behaviour animations, traits, and so much more.
It's very much a Pod person kind of feeling. when you combine the empty world with the too-happy vibe.
Man, it is so refreshing to see a sims youtuber be honest about the issues with the game. So many content creators try so hard to defend the game.
I remember every time a new expansion pack for The Sims 3 came out, I'd take the time to read every household description in the new world to get into the lore. Now, everything feels so EMPTY, empty of lore, empty of stories. EA is doing the bare minimum and it shows.
talk about excitement lol, sims 3 never failed for its descriptions, i still have the original dlc discs and even the package feels more exciting than any sims 4 dlc 🥲
There's also a lack of incentives. In older Sims versions you would get different car pools depending on how you progressed in your job and you needed to visit downtown in order to buy clothes.
I loved getting a sewing machine and having my elder Sims make the younger Sims their wedding gowns. 🥹 Having to buy/make the clothes made them matter.
i'm a cartoonist, illustrator, and graphic designer. sims 4 is what i go to when i wanna test out some ideas i have for characters or locations, if i need to visualize a fleeting idea that i like so i don't lose it. sims 2 and 3 are what i go to when i want to play a computer game. (usually sims 2 since i have the ultimate collection, but either way lol)
yeah i also just use sims 4 for the cas and build mode options, i like making characters and posing them. that's nothing more than a dress up game though like you can barely call this software a game
Without mods or your own doing nothing happens in this game.
In the Sims 3 (i barely remember Sims 2) there's so much going on you forget about your own Sims 😂
I was playing sims3 for the first time, took my kids to the cemetery to search for rocks and i ended up finding out i can just remove graves from the mausoleum??? Thats literally robbing graves and i love it
Plus you didn't have the SAME Sims everywhere you went! If you went to the park in 3, there were specific Sims, and then you could travel (without load screens) to the library and see *other* Sims, not the same ones from the park. I'm soooo tired of, for example, Nancy Landgraab jogging down the road in Oasis Springs and then when I go (with load screens, sigh) to Willow Creek, there's Nancy Landgraab....again...jogging down the road. I know I could use Carl's mod to limit the worlds to only Sims who live in those worlds, but considering how empty and shallow The Sims 4 is, that isn't much better as I would hardly see *any* Sims then.
@@ravenlord7144 The Sims 3 being open world was one of the greatest things about it. no unnecessary loading screens just to view another community lot. you can pretty much spy on your neighbors and see their own personal lives taking place
Watching Plumbella’s Sims iceberg makes it so obvious how lacking in storytelling and depth the Sims 4 is compared to the Sims 2. It was actually so depressing to watch😂.
I would watch her, but I cant understand a word she is saying 😂😂
@@KeksdichSAME
It's a 4 hour video which normally I don't mind but I just can't do 1.5x with her super thick accent lol
@@Keksdich is English not your first language?
I'm a creative and I love to make stories with the Sims 4, but too much control and the lack of random wackiness do make the game boring most of the time.
EA is so boring up to the fact the modders have to be the heroes aka 'unpaid' workers to help make this game alive. Like, goddamn, it's that embarrassing for a billion-income company to be able to sink this low. 🙈🙈🙈
as a rule of thumb, you don't get to be a billionaire without using unpaid labour
That's exactly what happened, and I think that this can be legally actionable if enough modders complained about it. Modders were tricked into becoming an extension of this game's development team and tech support without being fairly compensated.
corporates gonna corporate,smfh
@@ts1depot YEP
Yeah the modders gife the people what they want and EA is even to lazy to look at the most populair mods to see what will make the most money
My “playing” the sims consists of creating a sim, building a home, and then never touching the game again for the next six months.
That's so true about the Sims 4 being roleplay rather than actually creating the character and story
sims 3 to sims 4 is such a whiplash that you would think that sims 4 is still in development
currently sims 4 is still in development, there a lot of features who are so unfinished
all these constant updates they're throwing out for Sims 4 it's because they're still playing catch up to the Sims 2/3 legacy.
Sims 4 is almost unplayable without MODS. I really hope the creators see this & get right back to the drawing board
for real, the mod community are carrying sims 4. i could not play it without mods & CC
They absolutely WON'T until people stop buying it. Why would they if it's working for them?
and even with mods, some modes require some dlc in order for them to have the functions you want to have because they rely on code made by the devs
@@argentumsoundthey don’t buy it anymore, it’s been free for a while
When I try to get mods it wont work and it just makes it so I can’t enter the game anymore and I have to go hours and hours just so I can actually click on the game
TS4 needs a HUGE update where they make it into an Open World update...EA doesn't even realize that the reason why Simmers call it boring bc the neighborhood is barely interactable. Its the uncanny valley/liminal space effect where the map is so big and yet you are confined in a space with lifeless npc with no stories
This is the best description of it, liminal space, literally feels like you’re trapped in either your house or a park bc those are the only decently interactive places
The open world made Sims 3 unplayable on a lot of devices. An Open World update to 4 would just be a "Haha, you like playing this game? Well, too bad, it's now non-functional!" to like, 30% of the playerbase, at least.
@@herowither12354 That's true. It should be done in a new, separate version, that one can choose to install or not, according to one's system capabilities.
Well, while playing ts4 I thought that maybe I was too old for it. But then I decided to play ts3. In 4h my vampire sim died (as I forgot that hunger k!lls them), so I decided that my other sim would obtain a ginie lamp to ressurect them. It worked and I got the ginie in the household, he wanted to be a criminal, ok. After some time he got arrested and another sim went to free him with the drill that I have no idea where they had gotten it from. There are so many unplanned things happening in ts2 and ts3 while playing, but sadly not in ts4.
This! I fondly remember a save in ts3 where the grandfather randomly got abducted by aliens and got pregnant. Shortly after having the child, he died and my sim and her boyfriend (Moritmer) needed to care for the child. Totally unplanned and not the way I was planning to play the game! I think the story progression is what ts4 is missing. You have to force events to happen, they don't come naturally too often.
I recently started trying to play the sims 3 on a newer windows 11 laptop. Sadly it doesn't work well on windows 11. But in my short time playing, I made a sim who was a paranormal investigator in Midnight Hollow. She went to the home of some ghosts to carry out a career task. During the task, the mother ghost went into labour and my sim took her to hospital. The ghost came out of hospital with a non-ghost child! I assumed it was a bug because I was in the middle of a career task when it happened, but it made for an amusing story.
@@kateschmid2889 funny enough thats not a bug, but actually a feature of how genetics work in the game. The baby can inherit the supernaturalism from their mother or dont, if the father is a normal human.
Lazy Duchess has a lot of mods for the sims 3 to work better on newer pc's :) It totally saved my life. Especially the Alder Lake Patch
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Yup all the random that was unrealistic has been removed. Almost as if asking for more realistic gameplay made it blander...
I'm surprised they keep adding new death types because I don't think I've ever seen a sim die in this game. I even tried to get one electrocuted by getting him to repair the TV when he was in a bad mood. I had him pee himself next to the TV to create a puddle but he still wouldn't get shocked. Eventually I even resorted to breaking the TV and creating puddles over and over using cheats and he didn't even get electrocuted once, let alone twice which is a requirement for death. There's no challenge in this game.
whereas my sim's husband in TS3 would burn the entire house down by making himself a sandwish...
I had a sim randomly die from an asteroid. Out of nowhere. It gave me a pop up saying get inside & I was like what??? & then BOOM asteroid. I also had the kitchen catch fire 3 times in which another one of my sims died from being burned alive bc the “extinguish” option wasn’t working, none of my other sims were extinguishing. It almost happened again but I paused it & figured out the steps I needed to take to extinguish. & the living room also caught fire. Also all of my appliances need to be repaired ever like couple days. Every time I turn around it’s a spewing faucet or a broken shower. It’s just crazy. I miss sims 2
LMFAOOO
Thats why i have mods like whicked whims or violent mod
there is a huge challenge in this game actually. the challenge is trying to have anybody unalived.
When I played the Sims 3 and got the Nightlife and vampire pack for free because of a deal I had SO MUCH fun. I could have one sim at home cooking, another at work, one at a friend's house, and one at a club. Instead of having to go through a loading menu every time I wanted to switch locations, I had all the sims in my arsenal and could do multiple things at once. The nightclubs were really fun and there were also celebrities that you could talk to in order to make your sim famous. Don't even get me started on vampires. They had super speed, cool red eyes, different traits and conversation ideas with them, and more. Compare this to the sims 4. I can only control ONE sim at a time. If I have a sim at the club that's the only one I can interact with while my other sims are frozen in time. If I want to do anything else I have to go through a loading screen. So instead of doing multiple things I just take all the sims with me so I can play with all the sims at once. Instead of being able to see what my neighbors are doing through the camera and popping up at their house like in the Sims 3 I have to go through a loading screen and hope that the neighbors are there. The only thing that the sims 4 does better is the CAS, which can easily be by passed with mods.
Even getting fired from your job is locked behind a pay wall
and you have to enable it in settings
@@LivenUp7 I'm assuming u mean there's a setting to turn it off or on? I ment the get famous thing where you get a pop up when your sim is at work to either end up fired or promoted or change nothing but it dosent pop up much n I think your sims has to be atleast 1 star and have the fame perk under the celeb serum (can't remember the name lol) but if there's another way pls let me know
@@Alexandria.J.Barmerwith growing together there's another way which can be enabled or disabled in settings
seriously?? i never knew that. dumbest stuff ever :(
@@_Lavande_ oo I'll have a look in a bit
I miss the excitement of The Sims...it's all gone
Replaced with greed and a whole lot of nothing
@@mysticxjuice yeah 😔 it is a shame
This is so spot on. I eventually decided no amount of expansion packs was going to make it more interesting and I haven’t picked it up in over a year.
the sims 3 was my first sims game- and I loved it. I played through one of my first sims' entire life, He had a career, he had a wife, he had 6 kids, he had a full life. I spent hours expanding his home and creating stories. I think I spent over 100 hours just on that one save and that was without ANY EXPANSIONS.
In the sims 4 I have over 5 packs/expansions, yet I can never spend more than a few hours on a single save. it's so boring, bare, and greedy.
The “after I get a job what will i do next?” Is so real
After not touching Sims for over a decade I started playing it and instantly noticed a lot of things "not right" with it.
My first try was a generic character, a tutorial for myself to get familiar with the game. Bought the cheapest land in the first world, built the smallest house with all the features to cover my basic needs and gave it a go. In first 5 min I think I met like over 20 neighbors who were ringing on my door, wanting to greet me. On the second day one of them asked if she can come over and stay for a while to which, despite being very surprised by the insanity of it, I said yes. She then came with her whole family which was in ruins so they fought and argued all the time making everyone in the house getting debuffs. Their son kicked the hell out of the trashcans so I got a trashplant plague going.
Overall my house became trafficed like an LA highway where people constantly ringed the bell and hung out in my house 24/7.
Later that Vampire dude came over and started messing and breaking all the little stuff that I had left. Whats with all those trashcan kicking?!
Despite being an honest and hard worker I couldn't pay the insane bill of over 650$ (until today i have no friggin clue why it was sso expensive!) so I ended up in a dead loop - no devices and no water means bad mood and huge debuffs, means no promotion or loan increase, means i can't pay the bills and get my character back into a good buffed mood. All that while my house gets rekt by 20+ people daily. Again THAT is the MOST BASIC and generic start you could have!
My second try was in that pet-village which was the complete opposite and is actually a chill and nice gameplay at least for the start.
you just needed to lock the door lol
This sounds more fun then what I do on the daily
Sims 4 is just a money grab. There's like no heart and soul in it at all! I love mods but we shouldn't have to depend on them.
Facts
and some of the mods require most of the dlc! So it's a lose lose cash cow!
100%! Without my mods the game would be complete trash!
I hate the loading screen so much that I avoid the texts from friends asking me to come over and I also avoid using high school years because of the loading screen. It’s shoved in my face so much that I’m not using 80% of my packs. The most I use of my packs is in the house my sims live in.
One time save and go to manage worlds froze on that loading screen. It still saves, but now I have a new fear of the loading screen.
"Your sim has a fear of loading screens, in the social menu try asking EA for reassurance"
...
"It seems talking to EA made your fears worse, lol now you have a festering grudge toward EA"
"Your sim wants to break up with EA"
I tried to play in a different way . My sim is a male who is a serial romantic. At one point he was flirting with a girl and they he started to flirt with another girl. The first girl didn’t care about the second one, but the second one just accepted to get married with him. Then for some reason she freaked out and started a fight. I made them elope, but she was still angry. Then he asked for the divorce and now she cries and cries. I have tried many times to make her leave, but she won’t. I think I’m going to build a pool and you know the rest. He is always embarrassed because she won’t accept his apologies.
I am of the opinion that the Sims 5 should literally just be the Sims 2 with updated graphics, maybe also with the open world from the Sims 3 (although that eventually made my Sims 3 games a buggy, laggy nightmare).
I agree with everything you said, the Sims 4 is a mess and I get bored with it so easily, and the game-breaking bugs that they don't care about are so frustrating. I hate the Sims 4 wants and fears. Bring me back to the good ole days of the Sims 2 when my sim both wanted and feared having a baby. Bring back the drama.
Sims 2 was definitely the best in terms of gameplay for me. Loved the life goals and short term wishes and fears. The thing that really improved in sims 3/4 is the building options for me. So if they could just combine the gameplay of 2 with the build mode of 4 that would be great for sims 5
Sims 2 music can be forgotten though hehe
@@Liusila No it can’t. Literally. I remember all the music even though I haven’t played with audio in almost 20 years 😂
Considering that Sims 3 was released 2009-2014, while Sims 5 will be released in the second half of the 2020s, it personally don't think that an open neighborhood is likely to cause similar problems. Overy few people will play Sims 5 on the same PC they played Sims 3 on.
I really really just wish they remade the Sims 2 with the building mode and CAS of the Sims 4. I have to give it to them, The Sims 4 has the best CAS and building in the series.
Talking about "Death by mold..." That clip just looks so... childish, so... unrealistic... Ugh I just hate that they've made the Sims 4 like a Sesame Street Show...
What about the scared run 😅😂 I play for 5 mins, see a "I'm so quirky" interaction and I'm done 😂
Sesame Street is better
Childish is the most perfect word for TS4. Anyone over 12 was never meant for the target demographic.
They are targeting children. Companies like YT FB IG have made billions off of children under 12 last year!
Egh, I don't mind it. Sims has always had weird quirky stuff. Cowplant is a good example. I like that stuff. My elder squeeing like a child tho over whoo hoo with his partner is a bit childish for his in-game age. Because the game was designed for the young adults life stage and everything else is tacked on, that stuff is kinda stupid.
i’ll never forget when i was around 14 and i made a big new family in the sims 3. one of them decided to make waffles and before i knew it the entire kitchen was on fire and half of my family had burned to death. that could never happen in the sims 4
I had a couple of friends that I played the Sims 3 “with”. We used to call each other and talk about things that happened in the game. It was better than gossiping about reality tv shows. One friend in particular had so much drama and crazy things happen in her world that it used to take hours to talk about what happened over the weekend. 🤣🤣🤣
Still remember when three kids died because of a meteor strike at their school.
I was playing/talking with my brother and we were shocked for days lol.
Random horses and pets running around.
@@n0rmal953are we still talking about the sims here?? 😭
@@sasvkeee._ I had the same shock when I read n0rmal’s comment too. 🤣 it sounds like it happened in Chestnut Ridge.
Plus they completely shat on the lore. Instead of expanding on what the first 3 games did, they were like nah Sims 4 is in an alternate reality so none of that stuff matters
tbh someone made the connection from the Bella lore, sims 4 was made this way to show Alexander (which we see a book he wrote in sims 3, when he shouldnt be alive yet) went back in time to save his mother and sims 4 is Bella now being alive. Not sure who did the thoery but its pretty cool take
@@Ilivepuppysyeah that is a cool take but knowing ea that is NOT why they ditched the story line💀 theyre just lazy
@@yomamafatasf you do know EA is the main guy they dont make the sims right? Lindsey is the boss man so she makes the final calls for the sims games. It is funny when people think EA themselves make sims 4, no its a team inside EA the only thing EA does is rush the teams they dont give a rats ass about storylines, that is the sims team which Lindsey is the head of
Exactly! The only reason to play Sims 4 is for the WickedWhims mod because Sims 4 is literally a digital doll house, not a game.
You use wickedwhims for...?
@@kaito2386the good thing is that stuff just ... happens, when you least expect it
So one time all my clients in vet clinic decided to just start having an orgy in the bathroom, while my sim and pets waited for their owners to get it over with and finally pay. And tbh that was one of the rare funny things I had happen in sims 4
@@kaito2386I think ppl forget wicked whims has wayy more explicit game play then just sex. Fighting, cheating, gangs, realistic expectations. Short answer because it’s more fun than the base game.
It feels like a bunch of talented people created a game and then they sold it to a big company, it's like a Netflix movie plot. They watered it down, they made it a cash cow, they slapped people with tiktok culture
That's exactly what happened, except they didn't sell it willingly, they were FORCED.
sims 4 has so many mechanics that do nothing for the gameplay. Pure fluff in an attempt to make the game look fleshed out.
That's so true, why does e.v.e.r.y furniture item have a paragraph of description? Who is reading that?
@jaymarie8065 that's actually such a good point that I never thought of because I NEVER READ THAT STUFF but someone took the time to write it. And... what a waste of time and resources.
@@jaymarie8065 The furniture descriptions are actually the funnest part of the game at this point tbh theyre pretty funny and have good lore sometimes
I once tried to create my own world with my own townies. i made a bunch of families so that all the kids could grow up together in the same neighborhood so that they could grow up together and interact more authentically cause they would have known each other their whole lives. but it got so boring because it would take so long to load each house and getting them to know one another was a long and difficult process. i stopped playing it, then all these packs that would go with my town came out and i thought about going back to it. but the game is TOO SAFE. not enough wackiness to really pull me back in . :(
"Don't worry, the bugs make it exciting!" -EA
even sims 4 bugs are trash compared to the sims 2 and 3 bugs
I personally find the sims 4 boring because i find it too easy. I got my family to go from 0 sim dollars to 2 million sim dollars in one life stage purely by working and selling crafted items.
My starter sim has now mastered every skill, completed several life goals, has nearly every unlockable personality trait and it’s just like … what now ?
It’s had zero impact on her family or the world around her
That’s another point satch brings up often. The economy of the game is broken and doesn’t make any sense anymore. You can actually become a millionaire by selling crafted items like you said, or even by having a small vegetable garden in your backyard and selling those every day
to be honnest i loved your challenge where you did play with all the lot challenge at the same time, in this let s play a lot of things happened naturally and made a story (the vampire, your sim that take the storm on the face an gained storm power, ect). even if i don't expect that extent of chaos in a normal let s play i would like more stuff like that to happen naturally.
My biggest gripe is that it’s too quick and easy to progress. Within an hour or two you can go from homeless to married with kids and living in a mansion. It should be 10x more difficult and have way more real life struggles to work through.
agreed. call me old fashioned but i love the realism of Sims 3 and how it would take several generations just to save up enough Simoleons to buy a nicer and bigger house in a more affluent neighborhood. i'm weird for being too lazy to download mods and cheats, but for me personally, i like working to buy what i want lol
I like the fun I've had playing the sims 3 more than the sims 4. My sim was getting married to her husband and during the ceremony THE GAME TURNED THE GROOM INTO A ZOMBIE. In the end the wedding party failed, my sim was upset, the guests were disappointed, the fiancee was a zombie which I was scrambling to cure. It was hilarious and unexpected, it was more memorable than any marriage event in the sims 4. Another highlight was the Grim reaper accidentally having CC on and being a completely void black human with noticable abs and bleach jeans. 😂 I was like hot damn Grimmy, is that what you're hidding under that robe!
As for Grim, its an actual sim in the game, so after a good while playing, he would be able to age up and the game replaces him with a new one. Thats what potentially happened here for you.
I have a similar story. As a kid when I was playing TS3 I had this random idea for my Sims to get married in bathing suits. And when they were about to share their first kiss as a married couple, I got ready to take a photo cause I was so proud and then a zombie appeared right between them! I was so mad I remember I nearly cried that the zombie absolutely destroyed my perfect wedding party, but it was so hilarious I had that picture saved for a long time
@@relash1345 i love the Grim Reaper. he would just come collect my dead Sim's soul, sit down at the TV to play video games afterwards, but when it's time for him to leave, MF breaks my TV LMAO
I knew it didn't feel right but I didn't know why ... and you perfectly articulated why it don't feel right
the thing that bothers me so much is that there are no consequences to anything u do so what really is the point then
good point
The Sims 4 feels more life a dollhouse than a game. It doesn't interact back to you.
The thing that really put me off the sims 4 was the way that gameplay didn't continue in the background when you were fousing on a household or single sim. For example i followed my sim out to town to go dancing and she left her children at home with the grandparents. When she got back at 3am the children were still awake and whole household were still awake with low needs and they didn't fulfil their needs while that sim was away. In the sims 3 the world carries on by itself when you focus on a single household or sim. You would get back home and everyone would be in bed asleep. And have eatern. And have done things while you have been away. And i missed that!
They dont even punish you for staying inside for too long, I remember in sims3 I HAD to go outside sometimes and explore just so my sim wasn't upset and going stir crazy, I remember getting to have my sim kids hang out behind the school playground, I remember repeatedly doing those silly pet quests in sims3 Pets
Sims 4 at this rate I just play it to design houses and play with werewolves
And caring for the kids is just annoying now
One thing I HATE though is that I cant just load my game and if they're meant to be at school/work they DONT GO, and then my sim suffers because they didnt attend while in my sims 3 they'd automatically of gone if I switch to them
oh man i love how in Sims 3, there's just a law-enforced curfew for children and teens. if children are out past 11 PM or so, they don't really need a police escort. they just go home automatically without adult supervision. but teens actually get caught by the cops and your adult parent Sims can lecture their teens about staying out so late. it's so realistic
we all know the sims 4 is the worst/most boring sims game to exist fr, lmao
For now it is, Sims 5 is still on it's way lol
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So is your mom's hoo-ha
3:30 Is a good eye-opener. Look at the roads, unrealisticly unable to be used by vehicles given The Sims height. The Sims 4 is not only broken by nature but by logic also. The entire game really DOES feel like somebody held the line with wads of gum and silly string.
I have more fun in The Sims 3 BASE GAME than I do with The Sims 4 with every EP/Kit/Stuff :/ Its really bad.
I remember when sims 3 was first released. We were all complaining about how underwhelming it was and all the features sims 2 had that it was missing. Little did we know…
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I always loved it lol! I was a dumb kid, I might be biased in that regard though haha
any Sims game where the school bus doesn't make an entire U-turn on a two lane road, i don't want it
I installed sims 3 to give it a try. In the first 20 minutes of gameplay [apart of the 2 hour CAS that I enjoy] my sim was made fun of by an other sim dressed as an alpaca, a portal opened on my lot to the future with her toddler, I was taught to fly with a jet pack, bought robot parts, and I met my sims future children [not all descendants liked her]. The amount of random craziness that came my way... the amount of things I could do on the new location... chefs kiss.
is it worth it fr??? like I wanna try it but.. those graphics 😭
@@charlez9295 I think the graphics look fine tbh, though I did grow up watching people play The Sims 3 so perhaps I'm just more used to the graphics.
@@charlez9295once you get passed the graphics it’s a really enjoyable game so definitely try it
@@charlez9295your so real for that..the graphics are 😬but I’d try it
They really do hold your hand. Recently I've been starting my sims as homeless; just clicking the first empty lot and putting down a tent and party bush, etc. Start farming, making flower bundles, buy a cow, etc. They don't get Lyme disease or sick of sleeping on the ground. Sometimes it's embarrassing using the bush but there's never an accidental snake bite or anything. Nobody shames them for being homeless or poor, they sit right down on the stump and offer their fruitcake and talk about the campfire. Well, alright. What's the point, man. What are we even doing here?
How EA is supposed to care if simmers taught them no matter what crap they release people are willing to pay over 1000$ for packs that do nothing.
As a teenager I spent happily my allowance to buy sims 3 packs. They were massive.
When I saw sims 4 i pirated it, never spent money on this sad overpriced excuse of a game.
same! the cc & mod creators are whats making the game fun but even then, something is always broken or EA makes an update that fucks everything up and makes it buggy.
The BEST THING EA could ever do is to freakin play this video on a loop every day in the office until they FINALLY GET IT. Because you NAILED IT, over and over. All of this.
@@2freeIvX it's a bit like architects. So many of them love designing and talking about "brutalist concrete" but most of them want to live in a cozy house. One with a soul, and then not a soul that got the house number 666...
oh im sure they know what they're doing
Why? They're geting as much money as ever now
Yes!!! They should all be required to watch this for sims 5 lol
@@2freeIvX I doubt it's the developers themselves but EA management. They're the ones who decided to cut up all features in to separate packs, making it impossible for the devs to just ... make fun things that rely on stuff being there.
Nothing gets to be fun when there's a dumbass in a suit sitting there griping about not making enough money.
I'm not really a big fan of complaining for the sake of complaining... but dude, you're absolutely right about everything you've said. The Sims 4 is just not working and it REALLY needs A LOT of adjustments. I think that the main problem is probably the thing you mentioned about The Sims 4 trying SO HARD to be safe and family friendly like dude... most simmers are teens and adults like wth, we want DRAMA, ACTION, CONTROVERSY!!!
5:30 the thing i don’t like about the traits are how unrealistic some are. like you said, what the flip is “child of the islands”? but what i really want is more realistic traits. like ones to do with sadness, or actual real life things. not every sim is cheerful all the time. it just annoys me that if you want realistic traits such as depression or disorders/disabilities you have to find mods.
#8 was a real eye opener to me since I don't buy packs for Sims 4 - just the free stuff and Cats and Dogs because I thought it would be better than it really was. I didn't realize how many of the features all did the same thing but applied to different packs. I think you really nailed it on listing the elements that make Sims 4 boring. I prefer playing Sims 3 with everyone on high autonomy and being surprised at what my sims and the townies do. For instance, in one recent Sim 3 session, the family I was with experience the death of a cat in their home (that wasn't their cat - probably one their cat invited over,) an alien abduction, an attempted burglary (failed because one of the household autonomously attacked and beat them up,) and a housefire. Sometimes if my sim is in a rabbithole, rather than speeding through everything, I just snoop around the area and see what everyone else is doing. I've see plenty of fights, flirts, betrayals, evil sims scaring others, parents playing with their kids, etc. The towns (with the exception of Bridgeport for some reason) seem so alive. I guess rather than have to "play pretend" on everything, I'd rather watch the story unfold and then fill in the details or interpret what is being said based on the thought/dialog bubbles. Doing all the heavy lifting is tedious.
I really miss the individual bios from The Sims 3. They were great for jotting down how a sim should be played, so if you left for a while, you could come back and quickly read up each sim’s bio to remember where you left off.
Also I didn’t know The Sims 2 actually encouraged you to follow the townie stories! That’s so cool!!!
Sims 2 is the best game ever, but the graphics is really outdated imo
But it's so fun and challenging to play it
You're so right about there being a lack of depth. I only seem to really look forward to my game when, say, a kid is about to age up or someone is up to some romantic mischief or if I've created a restaurant or lounge and I'm anxious to see it in action
It’s not a little bit boring… it’s very boring
Agreed and I love your profile picture.
@@BBaaaaa thank you!!
Every point, every single point you made. I wish they would just watch this. I don’t need it to be perfect, I want it to be fun. Something it’s predecessors somehow pulled off, even with all THEIR glitches we forget about
Literally, it doesn’t need to be perfect. Like I could play the sims 3 for hours even though the maps are so big my sims would freeze going location to location. I would honestly rather play the sims 3 and wait for a couple minutes for my sims to buffer, cause at least there was gameplay after
This is literally so spot on. I wish they would see this and really take this in when making sims 5… i need sims 2 storyline, interactions and interactiveness, sims 3 game packs and game play and open world and sims 4 build and buy and cas in one game plssss
They don’t let you lose your job is so true. I had a sim who didn’t go to work AT ALL because I was trying to get her fired. She didn’t show up for many weeks in-game, her phone rang and she got warned every day, but she still had her job. I gave up
Whereas in previous sims games you skip work for 3 days and you're fired lol.
I had the same with a kid I wanted to be a rebel and flunk school. He didnt go to school ONCE and I coudnt get the grade lower than a C, which they start out with.
@@MissSimsalot is it a teen and do you have the HSY expansion? My teens grades have been buggy since I bought that one.
@@MissSimsalot thqts a lie, a child needs to skip school around 3 times to get a D (depending how high the grade was) I know this because with my cult I cheat my children to A's so they can skip school and not get Fs and get taken away
Does anybody remember how cool it was to be a magician in Sims 3? You could go on to the stage to perform your own magic show, set your own decorations, and then maybe win the prize. That was so amazing
as someone who did grab the sims 4 the moment it was free, and proceeded to NOT play it until last week - it was fun for the first hour. it was the "oo shiny!!" mindset along with exploring all the features of the base game. then i decided to get the packs and .. wow. my save broke multiple times and i eventually gave up. a friend recommended for me to get the sims 2 and after doing so, i was completely amazed at how GOOD the sims 2 is despite it being an old game. the sims actually do things. yes, there's slightly less traits and some i wish were in sims 2, but the gameplay felt much better. there were actual reasons to keep playing through the game, to help your sims get their aspirations. they just felt alive. safe to say that i won't be going back to the sims 4 and will more likely fall into a hole of modding my sims 2 game and maybe check out the 3rd game if i want to take a break from ts2.
Satch u nailed it and i miss these creepy and scary things were happening in sims 2 and 3 even sims 1 but sims 2 is my favorite, they need to bring back burglars on sims 4. Sims 4 is so soft i'm tellin ya nothing scary at all
Oh my god yes, I didn't know I would have missed the burglars so much 😭 I started playing ts3 again recently and I got so scared when the creepy music started and the burglar beat the police up and got away in the end 😂
I feel like the older games had a purpose like wanting your sims to grow up well and filling up the aspirations meter. Also the memory system was much more complex like family members getting married, parents getting memories for teaching their kids something like we don't even have a first kiss milestone in the sims 4!
The difference between sims 4, sims 3, and sims 2. Sims 2 and Sims 3, i had to stop playing because i was super addicted. Sims 4 is just an endless cycle of nothing even with mods, i stop playing because its boring after a month or so of playing. I think what sims 4 lacks are consequences, I hate the fact that if you're straight up enemies with another sim they chit chat like its nothing. Lmao
Everything you covered is absolutely true (even if people cant admit it). Good quality non-buggy game play is BARE MINIMUM and we aren't 'Karens' for expecting that from the games we purchase. The Sims franchise used to be amazing but either people have forgotten everything we used to recieve (for less money!) or people have been trained by EA to accept cheaply made half baked games for twice the price we used to pay for actual gameplay.