Yep, I have a triple rec, doesn't sound as good as one of these, but it's SO DAMN LOUD! Turning it up in the basement I'm afraid it could break windows upstairs, or stop my heart.
When a hardwood, Wicker cloth, antique amp becomes a fire breathing monster... there’s a reason those things became the bar for metal tone for a long time.
@@traviswhite771 good question... The 2C+ became the bar, but the Dual Rec and 5150 became the sound of the 90's / 2000's. Not sure where the Diesel fits in.
They're becoming increasingly rare, but Mesa Mark 3 are a little more prevalent and can more or less do this. The blue stripe revision is actually slightly more aggressive than the 2C+.
I think some European amp brands, like Diezel and Engl, were meant to be the premium high gain amps for European customers, since American made Mesas and Peaveys are so rare and expensive in Europe.
4:33 can confirm, this sounds absolutely like you are standing in the room. I was in the rehearsal room literally 3 minutes ago, the "all mics blended" sound in the video is SPOT ON.
@@kurozumi8475 Randall Smith. Mike was the chief tech and he certainly was responsible for some mods and improvements, but Randall Smith always designed the amps first.
@@Turboy65 MB is the one who tweaked the existing IIC circuit while Randall Smith was in Germany for an amp show. He deserves a BUNCH of the credit for taking this amp to the next level. Look at the difference in prices for the IIA, IIB and IIC+. You can get a IIA for $2K these days....a fully loaded DRG IIC+ is running into the $15K range now.
@@instrumentalist28 the Mark III is one of the most aggressive amps ever built, and can easily keep up with the others in terms of gain. Still, it would be interesting to hear the differences in tonality between them.
One of my high school friends has one of these that his dad bought brand new in ‘83. When played with my slant recto 4x12 w English v30’s it’s one of the best amps I have ever heard in my life. It can do ANYTHING
My parents got me one of these for Christmas around that time. I wanted the Marshall but got this instead. Imagine my horror when I pulled this thing out and it matched our patio furniture. I plugged it in and was just blown away by it. It's still one of my go to amps 37 years later.
@@TheLifelove123 lol. Cool story. Yeah, would’ve probably matched my folks furniture too. I would’ve been bummed til I plugged it in. That thing is beastly.
Kirk used ADA MP-1 preamps & JMP-1 preamps during the black album tour. He used the aforementioned ADA MP-1 during the damaged justice tour also. Only James used mark series heads live during the black album tour.
@@Nghilifa I think they were using the Triaxis for the Damaged Justice tour... Maybe with the ADA MP-1 too? Don't remember where I read it long time ago
I have had a mark III red dot for over twenty years and I am never going to get rid of it. The same sound heritage like in the mark II C+, a classic sound and the clean and rhythm 2 channels are awesome.
This is such an outstanding series. You are doing an excellent job of capturing these amps in a way that lets others hear a much more accurate version of how they sound. I would love to see some of the Fryette stuff done in the room. Synergy or full fledged. Maybe a Diesel Herbert and the Engl Savage.
I had one of these mk2c combos with an EV speaker in 1982. The band I was in all blame me for their tinnitus! It was too much of a beast back then so foolishly went back to my Marshall. One those regret sales but I have at least got my Fractal version now! Great demo Ola. Love the way the room sounds. Its the best way to hear an amp as you miss lots of detail when you are playing yourself.
@@woodward_alan I am waiting for mine since August. Shame on Mesa Boogie for ridiculously poor distribution since they quit collaboration with MEINL distribution. Expect 4-5 months shipping
It will arrive never, they cannot build them anymore please watch and share my story how MESA BOOGIE SCAMMED ME and many European music stores DONT BUY future JP-2Cs from them, better get them used, they won’t be the same instagram.com/tv/CJgh5Mjnsfq/?igshid=1i4hmru50vb49
@@Liquifireguitargeek after I saw what mesa did to you I went looking for a used jp2c found it bought it for $2400 next day they announced the Gibson merger-bang my boogie went up in price-haha--I hope u got urs
As much as I learn about the different hi gain amps I also really like hearing the different mic choices. It a comparison you don't often get and has really changed my ideas about mic choices. Thanks Ola, you dun me a learn ! .\m/ head banging love from TX !
It's always amazing to hear how much the same amp/rig, the same guitar and the same player can sound completely different depending just on the mic used for capturing the sound and it's position.
I have an old Mesa Boogie Half Back verticle 2x12 with 2 EVM12l and it is great. I have a couple others in different cabinets and they all sound great. I also have an old Mesa Boogie 1x15 Diesel cab with an EVM15l and the two mesa cabs combined is incredible. I can run anything through them and they are just awesome.
Great old Boogie amp Ola . Love the wood finish on the head’s cabinet . I am very jealous of your and Louise’s Lagom lifestyle. You seem very ZEN and content with your place in life.
Go to Sweden 🇸🇪 experience it, be in it, understand it, stop and look around both physically and metaphorically. When you figure "it" out, Lågom will find you too.
@@restojon1 I would love to visit Sweden 🇸🇪. First stop Stockholm to see Ola and Louise. Next find my hockey idol Nick Lindstrom of the Detroit RedWings fame. I am close to retirement and would like to spend a summer in Sweden and maybe Amsterdam too.
When you turned on the Lewitt LCT, i literally jumped and looked around me, thinking there was a loud ass amp in my house. This video series REALLY does what it's meant to. Thanks Ola 🤘
Ola builds cool sections of how room with logos on the walls to make his videos look incredibly professional. Ola randomly cuts to far angle cameras that shatter the illusion and show how chaotic parts of his room are because he doesn't give a single fuck. never change, king.
The mark 2c is the same amp Brad Gillis used to record speak of the devil. That was the best guitar sound ever recorded. I've been chasing that sound my whole life.
It's great to hear a IIC+ demo produced by someone who not only knows how to play heavy but also knows how to properly record a guitar amp. BTW I think Mesa should clone that IIC+ of yours, it is quite vicious sounding.
It’s been years since your comment, and I agree about the „sizzle“… but in my experience: the sizzle completely disappears after the drummer said „4“… it’s crazy how it blends in to drums and isn’t annoying anymore
Amazing amp!! Sounds absolutely sick.. the way the amp looks is soo nostalgic though hahha! My granddad used to have an old radio like that back in the 90‘s.. the radio was probably from the 60‘s ;)
Yeah man. That’s just how I remember it. I bought a 1984 model in 1990 when I was a senior in high school. I had a Boogie 412 with EVs in it. I played lots of Metallica covers then, so it just slayed for that.
Ola I vote you do one of these in the rooms for all the amps you’ve made videos of in the past. It keeps this series going forward and revisits awesome older amps with your new and improved production
Love the idea of micing every speaker on that 4x12, but next time could you mic a couple of those speakers in the freidmen technique, where you could pair off diff mics together in that configuration. Just a thought.
I have a JP-2c and I'd say the ORTF Stereo mic sounds pretty damn close to what it sounds like 'in my room'. One of the best parts of having an amp like this is you can literally feel the low end in your body.
Damn, can't blame you for putting a tube screamer for an amp this old, but damn mesa boogie doesn't disappoint. Like, that amp was way ahead of it's time with that much gain without any modifications, unlike what most metal bands did back in the time to get that much gain and distortion. This is an interesting lesson in amp history lol.
Have a great friday everyone!
hey ola who won the james root guitar
Me duhhh
You too Ola!
Ola just being the master!!!!! \m/
you too Ola... please put some Yule decorations... its Christmas man!!
There is one thing "in the room" can't demonstrate. That is how the rig sounds while it's resonating your skull. No joke.
Neumann KU-100! They're not cheap but it will get the closest to that.
We need Skull impulse responses
@@RÅNÇIÐ im dying
Hook your PC or whatever you are watching on to a proper rig and you can experience it at home \m/
Yep, I have a triple rec, doesn't sound as good as one of these, but it's SO DAMN LOUD! Turning it up in the basement I'm afraid it could break windows upstairs, or stop my heart.
When a hardwood, Wicker cloth, antique amp becomes a fire breathing monster... there’s a reason those things became the bar for metal tone for a long time.
AND a DAMN GOOD reason why they are UNTOUCHABLE pricewise !!!!!!!! Talk about amp porn !!!!!! OMFG..... LOL....
And whats considered the new bar? The diesel amps?
@@traviswhite771 good question... The 2C+ became the bar, but the Dual Rec and 5150 became the sound of the 90's / 2000's. Not sure where the Diesel fits in.
They're becoming increasingly rare, but Mesa Mark 3 are a little more prevalent and can more or less do this. The blue stripe revision is actually slightly more aggressive than the 2C+.
I think some European amp brands, like Diezel and Engl, were meant to be the premium high gain amps for European customers, since American made Mesas and Peaveys are so rare and expensive in Europe.
4:33 can confirm, this sounds absolutely like you are standing in the room. I was in the rehearsal room literally 3 minutes ago, the "all mics blended" sound in the video is SPOT ON.
Whoever designed this amp, they were the true masterminds of the sound of today's metal music
The guy who designed those Mark II amps and this revision is AFAIK called Mike Bendinelli!
@@kurozumi8475 Randall Smith. Mike was the chief tech and he certainly was responsible for some mods and improvements, but Randall Smith always designed the amps first.
@@Turboy65 AND!, Randall is a flute player. He doesn't play any guitar.
@@Turboy65 MB is the one who tweaked the existing IIC circuit while Randall Smith was in Germany for an amp show. He deserves a BUNCH of the credit for taking this amp to the next level. Look at the difference in prices for the IIA, IIB and IIC+. You can get a IIA for $2K these days....a fully loaded DRG IIC+ is running into the $15K range now.
Randall Smith designed this amp, he truly is a genius
We need a comparison of this amp with the JP-2C, a Mark III and a Mark IV. In fact just do all the Marks.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark III wouldn't stand a chance, I think between a IV and jp-2c, in terms of high gain, I think 🤔
@@instrumentalist28 the Mark III is one of the most aggressive amps ever built, and can easily keep up with the others in terms of gain. Still, it would be interesting to hear the differences in tonality between them.
@@instrumentalist28 I have a III and a IV. The III is WAY more agressive than the IV.
I have two mkIII'S and they are both extremely brutal.
My blue stripe is the most brutal amp I have ever heard
1:02 - The symmetry between the black guitar/cab and wood tone amp/neck is just amazing. This is a perfect combination of amp and guitar.
These old marks are really amazing. I’ve had a mesa rig since ‘92 in my gear, and these old marks are just amazing.
1:40 NEUMANN TLM 102
2:07 SHURE SM 58
2:53 BEYERDYNAMIC TGİ51
3:16 LEWITT LCT 640
3:52 AUSTRIAN AUDIO OC18
4:15 ORTF STEREO ROOM MICROPHONE
4:35 ALL
I am listening with Presonus HD7. Neumann and ORTF are ''the shit''
Best amp ever.
Now don't do eating Earth if you want awesome amp reviews from Ola. Go eat Mars or something.
What would a wound in the force know about amplifiers?
@@MrDrTheJniac The answer's Yes!
I was born in 82. I like how it inspired Ola to play "old" riffs he wrote. Just like my Mark IV, it inspres me to play old riffs I wish I wrote haha.
Mark iv has a legendary sound! Love the B head I bought!
One of my high school friends has one of these that his dad bought brand new in ‘83. When played with my slant recto 4x12 w English v30’s it’s one of the best amps I have ever heard in my life. It can do ANYTHING
My parents got me one of these for Christmas around that time. I wanted the Marshall but got this instead. Imagine my horror when I pulled this thing out and it matched our patio furniture. I plugged it in and was just blown away by it. It's still one of my go to amps 37 years later.
@@TheLifelove123 lol. Cool story. Yeah, would’ve probably matched my folks furniture too. I would’ve been bummed til I plugged it in. That thing is beastly.
The Marks are fukking tight! My favorite amps.
that's what he said
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@@conanbarbarus1850 the comment section is out of control
Me too
That Neumann mic sounds insane!
thats for sure, that Mic is on my radar now
Best amp in history. Period.
Best amp ever made! Listen to metallica live in san diego 1992, best live sound ever recorded!!
Right. It's so tight, so heavy and aggressive sounding.
Completely Agree!!!🤘🏻
I'm fairly certain they where using IV's instead of IIC+'s by then. As far as I know.
Kirk used ADA MP-1 preamps & JMP-1 preamps during the black album tour.
He used the aforementioned ADA MP-1 during the damaged justice tour also. Only James used mark series heads live during the black album tour.
@@Nghilifa I think they were using the Triaxis for the Damaged Justice tour... Maybe with the ADA MP-1 too? Don't remember where I read it long time ago
I have had a mark III red dot for over twenty years and I am never going to get rid of it. The same sound heritage like in the mark II C+, a classic sound and the clean and rhythm 2 channels are awesome.
I played with a guitarist 25 years ago who used a Mesa Boogie 50 Cal head and it shredded and chugged. The older Mesa sounded great. Nice video 👍👍
you can hear a ton of different amps and be like oh cool, that chugs. but then you hear a mesa, and its always like yep. that's the tone.
This amp makes the existence of other amplifiers unnecessary))) Sounds fucking kick ass!!!
Considering its age too !!!!!!!!!!!! THAT SAYS IT ALL..... \M/ \M/ !!!!!!!!!
@@mikegallagher2732 Geez, I get goose bumps all over me every time I even look at the thumbnail of this video remembering how this amp sounds!
Sounds sick, probably the best sounding all mics blended out of everything that has been done in In The Room
Crunchier, yes, but no comparison to his Dual Rec in the room sound
@@dickieradd yeah that rec was monsterous.
I really dig the sound with the Neumann TLM102. Never heard about this microphone before. Nice discovery !
I though the same yesterday. It’s punchy and so honest sounding.
@@csabogurdon Exactly.
Yea, its my favorite mic. The palm mutes sound badass, and the highs arent obnoxious. I heard metallica recorded justice and master with that mic
111 dbA... sound like the perfect practice apt amp to me.
Hey Swola, just ordered a baritone solar guitar! Can’t wait to play it. Love your content my man. Love from Pennsylvania
This is such an outstanding series. You are doing an excellent job of capturing these amps in a way that lets others hear a much more accurate version of how they sound. I would love to see some of the Fryette stuff done in the room. Synergy or full fledged. Maybe a Diesel Herbert and the Engl Savage.
I had one of these mk2c combos with an EV speaker in 1982. The band I was in all blame me for their tinnitus! It was too much of a beast back then so foolishly went back to my Marshall. One those regret sales but I have at least got my Fractal version now! Great demo Ola. Love the way the room sounds. Its the best way to hear an amp as you miss lots of detail when you are playing yourself.
I've wanted this amp for so long. . Why must I torture myself by living vicariously?!
When is the JP2c gonna arrive???🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
He mentioned it during the John Petrucci interview. I'm excited for it to arrive! Wonder how he can stack it up against this 2c+....
@@woodward_alan I am waiting for mine since August. Shame on Mesa Boogie for ridiculously poor distribution since they quit collaboration with MEINL distribution. Expect 4-5 months shipping
It will arrive never, they cannot build them anymore please watch and share my story how MESA BOOGIE SCAMMED ME and many European music stores
DONT BUY future JP-2Cs from them, better get them used, they won’t be the same instagram.com/tv/CJgh5Mjnsfq/?igshid=1i4hmru50vb49
@@Liquifireguitargeek whoa dude.......that’s a huge fucking problem......I will share.
@@Liquifireguitargeek after I saw what mesa did to you I went looking for a used jp2c found it bought it for $2400 next day they announced the Gibson merger-bang my boogie went up in price-haha--I hope u got urs
The Mesa Boogie "V" of Metal Win on the EQ there. The only setting for early Boogie amps and the discerning metalhead
Sounds great! Thanks for sharing!
We liked the sound of the SM58 the best.
When you mix all mics together, it’s like an audiogasm for my ears.
I never got to play a mk IIc, but a few Mark III’s way back in the late ‘80’s-early’90’s. Sick amps.
Ola let me hold that Mesa C+, son.
As much as I learn about the different hi gain amps I also really like hearing the different mic choices. It a comparison you don't often get and has really changed my ideas about mic choices. Thanks Ola, you dun me a learn !
.\m/ head banging love from TX !
Ola, the man everyone on this channel comes here for good chuggin' in times of a lack of huggin'!!!!!!!!!!!!
someone needs to make a shirt with that Xd OLA ENGLUND 2020 Chugging instead of Hugging
@@BlackLionRecordsTV cHUGGING and a cartoon-Louise kissing an X through the C ... Knock yourself out Ola, Merry X-massacre everyone!!!!!! ;p
It's always amazing to hear how much the same amp/rig, the same guitar and the same player can sound completely different depending just on the mic used for capturing the sound and it's position.
I have a Mesa Quad Pre with the MKIIC+ channel. It's still an amazing sounding amp even after all these years
Awesome Ola! These amps sound even better with an old EVM12L
Hells yeah, I have one of those old EVs and it improves any any running through it. Shits in V30s all day. So tight.
I have an old Mesa Boogie Half Back verticle 2x12 with 2 EVM12l and it is great. I have a couple others in different cabinets and they all sound great. I also have an old Mesa Boogie 1x15 Diesel cab with an EVM15l and the two mesa cabs combined is incredible. I can run anything through them and they are just awesome.
Great old Boogie amp Ola . Love the wood finish on the head’s cabinet . I am very jealous of your and Louise’s Lagom lifestyle. You seem very ZEN and content with your place in life.
Go to Sweden 🇸🇪 experience it, be in it, understand it, stop and look around both physically and metaphorically. When you figure "it" out, Lågom will find you too.
@@restojon1 I would love to visit Sweden 🇸🇪. First stop Stockholm to see Ola and Louise. Next find my hockey idol Nick Lindstrom of the Detroit RedWings fame. I am close to retirement and would like to spend a summer in Sweden and maybe Amsterdam too.
Greatest amp ever made! You should also try the Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp.
Petition to make a signature pedal for ola called "OLA-DRIVE"
Ola the boosterer
They should just call it ola chugs
the angry and lovely swedish Oladrive
ChugDrive??
Chug-Ola 👊🏻
such a distinct sound. nothing else does it for me
When you turned on the Lewitt LCT, i literally jumped and looked around me, thinking there was a loud ass amp in my house. This video series REALLY does what it's meant to. Thanks Ola 🤘
Holy Grail! I need one of these.
Ola builds cool sections of how room with logos on the walls to make his videos look incredibly professional.
Ola randomly cuts to far angle cameras that shatter the illusion and show how chaotic parts of his room are because he doesn't give a single fuck.
never change, king.
This is my favourite metal sound of all time. My main choice for chugging on my Kemper.
That sound is beastly as fuck
The tone is indiscernible.
Sounds amazing. Well anything ola plays is gold lml!!!
CRISPY! Like this so much more than the last recto you did....
Having never tried it, I always wondered why this amp was so damned expensive.
Now I know why.
Thanks Ola.
Thanks Ola you just convinced me that's what I really need is not a new amplifier, but a new microphone and experiment with its placement...
Its just so dirty!!! Pure filthy ❤❤❤ nice one with the multi mics too 😊
My all-time favourite amp 🤘
The Mark V has the EXACT same circuit... great amp!
3:51 - "Sad but True" introduction. Can you assess a MESA Mark V "in the room"?
the Neumann mic is the best IMO, for real. That Damn Amp is just Rediculous, its 38 years old and sounds amazing.
Weren't these made in the early 80's. Still today, nothing compares. The mind boggles.
The production quality is getting out of hand.
Absolutely love it!
The mark 2c is the same amp Brad Gillis used to record speak of the devil. That was the best guitar sound ever recorded. I've been chasing that sound my whole life.
3:50 sad but almost true
It's great to hear a IIC+ demo produced by someone who not only knows how to play heavy but also knows how to properly record a guitar amp.
BTW I think Mesa should clone that IIC+ of yours, it is quite vicious sounding.
Would be cool to see you do the Mark IV. Played one a long ass time ago and it was an out of body experience.
Just recently got the Mesa dual rectifier 3 channel. Love it !
Hope you and your have a merry Christmas and happy new year brother. I was born in 79 man about to turn 44 .
What a beast of an amp. True classic ❤️🔥
Sounds delightfully lovely. Nice custom look too.
Love the sound from the room mic. It's so "big"
Very informative video about how to dial this amp. It sounds like a beast!
Oh I took a look at your DB meter. This thing is cool but the price 😮
That sounds glorious. Amazing!
Always a fan of all mics together
ugh that thing sounds so good.
This best video series for actually hearing what amps sound like!This is the SHIT look forward to these every time Rock on OLA🤘🤘
Really brings out the sizzle in those v30's...
I'd like to hear it through Mick Thompson's new Eminence DV77 speakers.
It’s been years since your comment, and I agree about the „sizzle“… but in my experience: the sizzle completely disappears after the drummer said „4“… it’s crazy how it blends in to drums and isn’t annoying anymore
9:03 sounds like there’s a kick drum in those chugs
is the best sound of "imn the room series""
Holy Shit!!ª!!!!
Holly crap I love this amp! Had one back in the early 2000’s
I'm hanging on to a Mark IV for similar reasons :)
@@woodward_alan big regrets selling my amp.
@@woodward_alan me too! There's a magic to the Mark IIC+ through to Mark IV-B. Even the Mark V just doesn't quite match them
Amazing amp!! Sounds absolutely sick.. the way the amp looks is soo nostalgic though hahha! My granddad used to have an old radio like that back in the 90‘s.. the radio was probably from the 60‘s ;)
Yeah man. That’s just how I remember it. I bought a 1984 model in 1990 when I was a senior in high school. I had a Boogie 412 with EVs in it. I played lots of Metallica covers then, so it just slayed for that.
I love this ...real mics .....way better than those other channels that just use crappy plastic sounding IRs to demo an amp
Being reissued by Mesa Boogie , certainly worth thinking about , it's the only amp you'd ever need .
Ola I vote you do one of these in the rooms for all the amps you’ve made videos of in the past. It keeps this series going forward and revisits awesome older amps with your new and improved production
The Austrian Audio and the Neumann sounded pretty good.
Had .50 Caliber head in the 80's when saw Prince with Boogies.
I never had the real amp, but this is my favorite model in my headrush. Sounds awesome
Loving these different mics set ups!
Greatest amp ever made.
JP2C ! We neeeeeeed it !
Such a great sounding amp.
No Boost To The Front End And It Sounds That Good!!! SWEET!!!!
Love the idea of micing every speaker on that 4x12, but next time could you mic a couple of those speakers in the freidmen technique, where you could pair off diff mics together in that configuration. Just a thought.
I have a JP-2c and I'd say the ORTF Stereo mic sounds pretty damn close to what it sounds like 'in my room'. One of the best parts of having an amp like this is you can literally feel the low end in your body.
I think the OC18 has the best capture of all. Also, thank you for enunciating why JP fell in love with that amp - I think I need one
Wow! That is the ultimate tone.
Damn, can't blame you for putting a tube screamer for an amp this old, but damn mesa boogie doesn't disappoint.
Like, that amp was way ahead of it's time with that much gain without any modifications, unlike what most metal bands did back in the time to get that much gain and distortion.
This is an interesting lesson in amp history lol.
An amp from 1982 that doesn't even need an overdrive. Metallica ran the gain on about 6 to make Puppets/Justice/Black. Ridiculous!
@@crionics99 Ikr!
@@crionics99 Metallica reportedly chained two amps.
that newmann 102 sounds so good. sounds good blended too.
Best guitar videos on UA-cam!
Best series on UA-cam.
I swear that tlm 102 is the best sounding mic of them all
I just got the Neural DSP plugin for this amp and good lord
This might be the greatest tone I've ever heard