I replaced cam gears, injectors, serpentine belt and pulleys, front lower control arms, power steering reservoir, intake cam shafts and lifters and rebuilt the rear suspension. I think that's all yes.. Good to go for a long time now. Did it cost some, yes. Was it worth it? Yes.
@snikomaqubela I have been looking at a few of these floating about in need of maintenance and the qoutes I got are close 35-55k, it's a hard to pill to swallow buying a car and immediately dumping cash into it. 😅 to be safe dnt look at high mileage examples unless you have receipts or a really low price at this rate I would settle for a c55 it's more attainable
How much did it cost, you ask. Well I got the car at a very good price so I could afford to put a few rands into it. A 2013 Edition 507 landed in my lap for the price of a preface lift car. One with the LSD option from factory, no less! Makes a big difference in the road mannerisms of the car. I believe it to be a very special car. I do know that prices will go up, no doubt about that, not just the later cars but also the earlier versions. But don't just buy for that reason alone. Buy to enjoy! I decided to keep the car for the long haul, ten years or so. It made sense to spend the money on repairs and maintenance now before parts get too scarce and expensive to buy.
In 2008 I had a Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, I got quoted R11 000.00 for a supercharger bearing, got one manufactured by a bearing company in Boksburg for R350.00... Nice to see that Mercedes Benz SA hasn`t deviated from their business model after all of these years...
With new car prices being what they are, these videos are a lot more useful to us consumers. Good on you guys for realising this. Also, please do a video on the E46 and E92 M3's, as well as the B7 RS4.
I have a 2007 C209 CLK63 AMG with the M156 engine. I bought the car with 185000km on it with a full service history mixed between agents and independent mechanics. Thus far the engine has been bulletproof with no oil leaks or the like. I did however have an issue of the "Top up coolant" warning light frequently coming up which necessitated a coolant top up of around 1l every 500km however this turned out to be a leak in the cooling system and not from worn head bolts. My mechanic, a now independent ex Mercedes-Benz technician, confirms your 2% stat as he says he did all of 2-3 cars in his life spanning well over 15 years. Oil usage is as per your stated amount around 800ml to 1l every 1000km and is normal for this engine. Thus far my cam shafts are all fine and the engine is very smooth with no audible ticking noises from the lifters. A vibration at idle can also be caused by worn out engine and gearbox mounts which are common on these engines and drivetrains because of the immense torque this engine pushes out so its noteworthy to consider those as potential culprits for any vibrations. Typically they should be replaced every 60-80000km. A common issue on the interior of the W204 C-Class is the MBUX centre controller, the knob/wheel that controls the infotainment system. Often they will stop sensing turns which requires a replacement part that's easily obtainable online and can be done DIY. Overall extremely well built cars with an engine to match provided you do proper maintenance as well as preventative maintenance regularly. Good to consider using Liqui Moly lifter additive every oil change to keep the lifter oil chambers free of dirt helping to extend the life of the lifters and camshafts.
well built and reliable german performance car yes, cant compare to a Lexus ISF, tough to beat Japanese reliability and performance for these cars are more or less in the same bracket.
@@AusBimmerFlix this C63 isnt better. pre facelift has garbage auto box. and reliability is questionable... but its said to be a reliable performance car, you guys are retarded to think that.
An overlooked option in searching for a C63 is a CLK 63, yes its slightly older but has the same engine(its even a little more powerful in the CLK version) and braking system, I stand to be corrected on the transmission but i think it also shares the same transmission as the C63. All in all the C63 is the most desired mid range AMG but the CLK is a great and good looking alternative.
I had one from 2015-2017 (and then I bought a house 😂) and I loved it! One thing not mentioned but that is noteworthy is the positioning of the high pressure power steering hose which sits between the block and the firewall. With the torque movement of this powerhouse, there is a tendency for the pipe to wear and eventually fail and rupture. This happened on mine and the power steering fluid (which the owners manual indicates as non-flammable) landed on a hot catalytic converter just below and caught alight. Thankfully no fire damage but it did end with a R27k bill from Mercedes (beginning of 2017) including a new power steering pump. This was a recall item overseas and not in South Africa. The hoses were redirected to avoid recurrence. Definitely something worth checking on.
Dude, you should make this a series! Do reviews on buying cards, getting the facts like you did here, talking to long term owners of some of the most popular cars in the country Buying/Owning guides like this are sorely lacking in SA, you may corner the market! Great work!
Owned mine (facelift) from new in 2013, 11 years and the only thing that has gone wrong was the condenser & thermostat (both replaced under warranty at the time). Good preventative maintenance keeps them as they should be, most second hand cars these days have been bought when people couldn’t afford to maintain them and there are loads of rough examples out there unfortunately. Good research and knowing what to look out for should find you a good one. Lumpy idle on these could also be nothing, intake manifold gaskets & pinched lines can also cause this on these cars. The biggest issue on these apart from the prefacelift headbolts are sticking injectors which can cause the engine to hydrolock (surprised you didn’t mention this) milage doesn’t matter for this issue, I would just replace them every 5-8 years as they are cheap for oem bosch without the amg logo from Mercedes. Now they are getting older more issues with lower front arms (mercedes only part) are expensive. Other cars have had sunroof/boot seals gone and leaking water into the car, upper engine pan seal seeping which is an engine out job to do a reseal, condenser and some oil coolers leaking with age now too. Other than that and the cam/lobe issues on higher milage cars they are pretty bulletproof tbh.
Like you have read my mind Ciro. I am a big Beemer fan and petrol head but this is the only Merc i want to park in my garage alongside BMW. I have always wondered what are the worrying issues. Thanks for adding and confirming what i had already knew. I love W204 C63 since it came out so i will hunt good used one
Awesome car! Great feature this too, keep it going. There was an advert of the C63, started with eery music then a shot of the car and the sound!! Loved it
2010 AMG E63 Heads and cams all tidied up and a bill 7k. 50hp added with a Tune. The Service mechanic says the engine is better than new. Car has done 67k. Head work was maintenance work, not a break down.
you miss the most common w204 problem and thats steering lock failure (EZS), this affects all of them. I can tell you that the timing chain will not last the life of the engine. Been a specialist on mercs for 10 years now and i can say the only merc engines that dont have timing chain issues are om 112/113 and om 275
Unfortunately for cars, the price tag does not represent quality of the car, it mostly just means that the car has more tech-stuff in it. And more techn on the car means more things can potentially go wrong. Which eventually pushes up the maintenance expenses 😂
Materials and engineering is where the costs go into, A car with so much power and weight needs to last and also be able to stop, go around corners, be comforatble, be refined and go very fast and protect its passengers and keep them safe in a collision when its needed to. All that requires extra engineering and durable high quality parts.
Some of these hitech cars 🚗 seems to be designed only to last up 150 000km, upon which all high engineering materials breakdown. Can't be paying R1million for a car that will have camshaft issues after just 60 000km....
Because they have more. The more there is the more that can go wrong. They're also engineered to a different level. So parts won't be cheap because it's powering something many cars can't come close to.
Over and above the Camshafts are the Cam adjusters. Noisy 2-4 second rattle/clatter at cold start from the front of the engine. This is also an expensive job. Another thing is the PCV valve at the back of the engine, not expensive I think but a faf to get to.
Love the content and these buyers guides on cars. May you please do the Volvo V40 range. I am thinking of buying one but not much information out here or trustworthy information. Thanks
Reminds me of time when I was a student and such cars went for far less than a million. I always thought I’d be owning a c63 or rs3 by now 😂 but then inflation got car prices up by almost 150% now 😂😂
I changed my rear pads, mercedes part R7365 with wear sensor R7495. Used abit of oil about 2L a month, free top up from mercedes. Should've never ever sold the car 😢, never had to do any other repairs owned from 60 000kms - 92 000kms. Wonder where it is now
This remains one of my dream cars, if & when I get this, the next on my list will be the c55 , then I’ll probably have to sell a kidney and half my liver to go for the SLS AMG
I replaced cam gears, injectors, serpentine belt and pulleys, front lower control arms, power steering reservoir, intake cam shafts and lifters and rebuilt the rear suspension. I think that's all yes.. Good to go for a long time now. Did it cost some, yes. Was it worth it? Yes.
How much did it cost?
Probably a brand new car@@Kopano.Tlali69
@snikomaqubela I have been looking at a few of these floating about in need of maintenance and the qoutes I got are close 35-55k, it's a hard to pill to swallow buying a car and immediately dumping cash into it. 😅 to be safe dnt look at high mileage examples unless you have receipts or a really low price at this rate I would settle for a c55 it's more attainable
@@lutha1720 Problem with C55's, E55's, etc. is getting a well maintained (at least) good condition car.
How much did it cost, you ask. Well I got the car at a very good price so I could afford to put a few rands into it. A 2013 Edition 507 landed in my lap for the price of a preface lift car. One with the LSD option from factory, no less! Makes a big difference in the road mannerisms of the car. I believe it to be a very special car. I do know that prices will go up, no doubt about that, not just the later cars but also the earlier versions. But don't just buy for that reason alone. Buy to enjoy! I decided to keep the car for the long haul, ten years or so. It made sense to spend the money on repairs and maintenance now before parts get too scarce and expensive to buy.
Ciro collecting cars like Thanos collected infinity stones
😅😅😅😅😅😅True that
In 2008 I had a Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, I got quoted R11 000.00 for a supercharger bearing, got one manufactured by a bearing company in Boksburg for R350.00...
Nice to see that Mercedes Benz SA hasn`t deviated from their business model after all of these years...
Lmao love the sarcasm
Damn I was 6 years old 😭
With new car prices being what they are, these videos are a lot more useful to us consumers. Good on you guys for realising this. Also, please do a video on the E46 and E92 M3's, as well as the B7 RS4.
I have a 2007 C209 CLK63 AMG with the M156 engine. I bought the car with 185000km on it with a full service history mixed between agents and independent mechanics. Thus far the engine has been bulletproof with no oil leaks or the like. I did however have an issue of the "Top up coolant" warning light frequently coming up which necessitated a coolant top up of around 1l every 500km however this turned out to be a leak in the cooling system and not from worn head bolts. My mechanic, a now independent ex Mercedes-Benz technician, confirms your 2% stat as he says he did all of 2-3 cars in his life spanning well over 15 years. Oil usage is as per your stated amount around 800ml to 1l every 1000km and is normal for this engine. Thus far my cam shafts are all fine and the engine is very smooth with no audible ticking noises from the lifters. A vibration at idle can also be caused by worn out engine and gearbox mounts which are common on these engines and drivetrains because of the immense torque this engine pushes out so its noteworthy to consider those as potential culprits for any vibrations. Typically they should be replaced every 60-80000km. A common issue on the interior of the W204 C-Class is the MBUX centre controller, the knob/wheel that controls the infotainment system. Often they will stop sensing turns which requires a replacement part that's easily obtainable online and can be done DIY. Overall extremely well built cars with an engine to match provided you do proper maintenance as well as preventative maintenance regularly.
Good to consider using Liqui Moly lifter additive every oil change to keep the lifter oil chambers free of dirt helping to extend the life of the lifters and camshafts.
well built and reliable german performance car yes, cant compare to a Lexus ISF, tough to beat Japanese reliability and performance for these cars are more or less in the same bracket.
😂in love with this series man, used car gang
Please do more of these type of videos, entry level performance cars would be great
The reason we started loving the c63 amg.
Plenty of torque at any revs... It truly is one hell of a car. This and the W212 E63 are brilliant mechines.
These are the types of practical videos we never knew we needed.
the lexus isf is the king when it comes to reliable performance car
Performance car my hairy arsse. ISF is a luxobarge.
Performance car..lol
@@AusBimmerFlix this C63 isnt better. pre facelift has garbage auto box. and reliability is questionable... but its said to be a reliable performance car, you guys are retarded to think that.
@@jldp24 its clearly subjective, this C63 is nowhere near to be a "reliable performance car"
@@marcobezuidenhout5050 lexus doesnt have performance. Unless you going 3.5litre..5litre cars and they still lethargic.
An overlooked option in searching for a C63 is a CLK 63, yes its slightly older but has the same engine(its even a little more powerful in the CLK version) and braking system, I stand to be corrected on the transmission but i think it also shares the same transmission as the C63. All in all the C63 is the most desired mid range AMG but the CLK is a great and good looking alternative.
You must been watching my searches as I have been looking for W204 C63 AMG!
I was literally searching for one 2 hours back..as soon as I get back online, this video pops up 🤣
I am a mechanic at one of mercedes benz dealerships.
This is the most reliable I have ever work on❤❤
I had one from 2015-2017 (and then I bought a house 😂) and I loved it! One thing not mentioned but that is noteworthy is the positioning of the high pressure power steering hose which sits between the block and the firewall. With the torque movement of this powerhouse, there is a tendency for the pipe to wear and eventually fail and rupture. This happened on mine and the power steering fluid (which the owners manual indicates as non-flammable) landed on a hot catalytic converter just below and caught alight. Thankfully no fire damage but it did end with a R27k bill from Mercedes (beginning of 2017) including a new power steering pump. This was a recall item overseas and not in South Africa. The hoses were redirected to avoid recurrence. Definitely something worth checking on.
The 507 is my ultimate dream car... Came out whilst I was still in varsity. Hoping I can find one with low mileage when I am ready in a year or two
They rare but awesome 👌 you will love it 😊
Been patiently waiting for this guide especially for this lovely loved CAR.
Thanks Ciro and continue enjoying your Fleet❤
I really like this 'what could go wrong' series
The best car I ever owned the sound the power output just superb!
👏🏾never seen such a comprehensive review on these models much appreciated to us who aspire to get one in near future.
these typeS of vids ARE GENIUS , NEED MORE🔥🔥🔥
Dude, you should make this a series!
Do reviews on buying cards, getting the facts like you did here, talking to long term owners of some of the most popular cars in the country
Buying/Owning guides like this are sorely lacking in SA, you may corner the market!
Great work!
Last week it was the Discovery 4, and this week this. Are you analysing my thoughts? 💭 🤔
definitely love this new addition or segment where you get the pros and cons when buying cars
Yooo you guys are pumping videos out like muffins. i like that i no longet have to wait for a week to get great motoring content anymore.
This has to be the best ownership review I've seen in a while. It's also a great guide to shop for these.
I wouldn’t think she has done 65km but the interior is evidence, what a Gem indeed
I have a 507edition and I love it...🎉🎉🎉
This is an extremely important video. Thank you
Queremos are you ? In The latest vídeos I haven’t see you and to be honest … is a HUGE difference
Owned mine (facelift) from new in 2013, 11 years and the only thing that has gone wrong was the condenser & thermostat (both replaced under warranty at the time). Good preventative maintenance keeps them as they should be, most second hand cars these days have been bought when people couldn’t afford to maintain them and there are loads of rough examples out there unfortunately.
Good research and knowing what to look out for should find you a good one.
Lumpy idle on these could also be nothing, intake manifold gaskets & pinched lines can also cause this on these cars.
The biggest issue on these apart from the prefacelift headbolts are sticking injectors which can cause the engine to hydrolock (surprised you didn’t mention this) milage doesn’t matter for this issue, I would just replace them every 5-8 years as they are cheap for oem bosch without the amg logo from Mercedes.
Now they are getting older more issues with lower front arms (mercedes only part) are expensive. Other cars have had sunroof/boot seals gone and leaking water into the car, upper engine pan seal seeping which is an engine out job to do a reseal, condenser and some oil coolers leaking with age now too.
Other than that and the cam/lobe issues on higher milage cars they are pretty bulletproof tbh.
Like you have read my mind Ciro. I am a big Beemer fan and petrol head but this is the only Merc i want to park in my garage alongside BMW. I have always wondered what are the worrying issues. Thanks for adding and confirming what i had already knew. I love W204 C63 since it came out so i will hunt good used one
Awesome car! Great feature this too, keep it going.
There was an advert of the C63, started with eery music then a shot of the car and the sound!! Loved it
Now we need to see the whole collection
Good job in these throwbacks, better than new car reviews🎉
TIMELESS design. BEAST of an engine!
This is the best sounding c class Mercedes ever created.
2010 AMG E63 Heads and cams all tidied up and a bill 7k. 50hp added with a Tune. The Service mechanic says the engine is better than new. Car has done 67k. Head work was maintenance work, not a break down.
The ex murderer with headlights😂😂
I want one of them, most beautiful C63 ever built. My opinion.
Jeez Ciro cant you do a series like this on common faults on vehicles? Very interesting every brand and model has its Achilles heal no matter what.
you miss the most common w204 problem and thats steering lock failure (EZS), this affects all of them. I can tell you that the timing chain will not last the life of the engine. Been a specialist on mercs for 10 years now and i can say the only merc engines that dont have timing chain issues are om 112/113 and om 275
These videos are great! 👍
u read our minds...thank u for the video...Very memorable car
Possibly the best engineer ever built!
So nice to saw this video because this is my next car.
I just do not understand how expensive cars have so many issues in comparison with relatively cheap cars
Unfortunately for cars, the price tag does not represent quality of the car, it mostly just means that the car has more tech-stuff in it.
And more techn on the car means more things can potentially go wrong.
Which eventually pushes up the maintenance expenses 😂
Materials and engineering is where the costs go into, A car with so much power and weight needs to last and also be able to stop, go around corners, be comforatble, be refined and go very fast and protect its passengers and keep them safe in a collision when its needed to. All that requires extra engineering and durable high quality parts.
Some of these hitech cars 🚗 seems to be designed only to last up 150 000km, upon which all high engineering materials breakdown. Can't be paying R1million for a car that will have camshaft issues after just 60 000km....
@@tulongahenoch3422 You are correct, they are designed like that...they make them expensive to maintain or fix forcing consumers to buy newer models.
Because they have more. The more there is the more that can go wrong. They're also engineered to a different level. So parts won't be cheap because it's powering something many cars can't come close to.
Very great and practical sports car. Congratulations on your purchase.
This segment is really useful 👌
I would like to see a similar video for the F10 BMW M5, thats one car i would risk financial ruin for
I use your website everyday 😂 why am I not subscribed to your channel 😭 Subscribed 👍
Fantastic news! Thanks so much
Good informative video. However no need for the intrusive music. I'm here for info. If i want music I'll go looking for it
Over and above the Camshafts are the Cam adjusters. Noisy 2-4 second rattle/clatter at cold start from the front of the engine. This is also an expensive job. Another thing is the PCV valve at the back of the engine, not expensive I think but a faf to get to.
Thanks for the info!
Wowo very informative..i really needed this info😊
Could You Guy's Do A Video On The Normal W204's Please & Thank You ❤🎉
My dad bought one brand new in 2010 what a car .
Definitely would love to see the bmw E90 be featured on this segment
I think more vids like this would be awesome
The bmw at the background was done on purpose😂😂😂... great video by the way
Thank you. This was truly helpful
"..the last of the v eights..." A famous quote from a famous movie
Great video as always... Thank you. Please do a video on a 2014 to 2016 Audi RS5 4.2L V8.
Thank you! We will try
Love this content! Well done :)
great job u guys r doin, what r your thoughts on this car reaching well over 100k in 10 years?
I own a B7 RS4, but have always liked the sound of these, would you mind taking me for a drive in your C63 some time Ciro?
Awesome, informative video. THANKS
Thank you!
Love these videos keep it up!!! Please to BMW E90/92 , FORD FIESTA ST , AUDI A4 1.8T , GOLF 6 GTI
A 2013 would slap right now 😭🔥. But the pricing is ridiculous.
Love the content and these buyers guides on cars. May you please do the Volvo V40 range. I am thinking of buying one but not much information out here or trustworthy information. Thanks
I love these 6.2 litre Mercs
Reminds me of time when I was a student and such cars went for far less than a million. I always thought I’d be owning a c63 or rs3 by now 😂 but then inflation got car prices up by almost 150% now 😂😂
Awesome vid
Informative video.
Nice if you could be able to do one on a C55 AMG.
I love your car collection
I changed my rear pads, mercedes part R7365 with wear sensor R7495. Used abit of oil about 2L a month, free top up from mercedes. Should've never ever sold the car 😢, never had to do any other repairs owned from 60 000kms - 92 000kms. Wonder where it is now
Love your video ❤
Im watching this one and taking notes for when i get my one...😂 and i still have not driven one can you believe it...
Awesome car but also a very expensive money pit if not cared for correctly.
Please do a video like this on the B7 RS4 and e90 M3 so we can compare the cost of maintenance
He clearly don’t know the economy of this vehicle, I get on average 19 litres per 100km normal driving and 13-14 minimum on highway
MB dealer parts are such a rip off. R44k for front discs and pads is daylight robbery.
I got discs and pads for my SLK from Goldwagen for under R2k.
Thanks for the video
Please do a guide video on the BMW 335I e90 coupe.
You should do a video on the m3 as well
when V8 engines starts i get chills idk if this is normal😭😭😭
Totally abnormal. The only cure iz to buy yourself a V8
1 for sale on autotrader exactly like that one a Jdm
Videos on are great, soon to replace ReDriven at this rate!
My favourite car the edition 507
Waiting to hear about the fuel consumption
Those figures are comparable to the BMW OG M2
Possibility to review the E92 M3?
This remains one of my dream cars, if & when I get this, the next on my list will be the c55 , then I’ll probably have to sell a kidney and half my liver to go for the SLS AMG
Ciro taking advance of that company car allowance😂
Bro, please make a similar video for the BMW M3 E92
Can you do similar video for Ford Ranger please 🙏
Beautiful Machine But Very High Maintenance ❤🎉
Please do a how to buy for a Porsche Cayenne diesel those look like such a good buy for a large suv at the moment.
Good idea!
Please do a video like this for the Nissan 370Z
Please do one for the F10 M5🤲🏿Assomblief
First gen Alfa Romeo Giulia video next?
I see the Flex there Ciro.