That was the very first thing I thought about after he got ejected. He literally made news organization's job so much easier when it came to creating clever titles for their front page. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. 😒
+Bobby Lawson cheating is cheating but its ok to cheat... cause everyone does it... but its a rule buts ts ok to cheat since every does it... so i guess they also think its ok to speed and break the law cause people do that to...
2:11 "I still don't understand that rule, as to why it's a bad thing for a pitcher to have a better grip. We're not talking about altering the flight or integrity of the pitch" Well, yes you are. If the pitcher can get a better grip on the ball, he can do more with it. It's why if you get two cars that are exactly the same, put great tyres on one and sh*t tyres on the other, the one with great tyres will drive better.
As a Yankee fan my whole life this is a disgrace. The team don't nor the owners have love for the game anymore. If George was alive this wouldn't have happened at all. He would have traded Pineda and anyone else involved in a heartbeat.
I'll bet Alex (A-Roids) Rodriguez started thinking gee if I come back next year to baseball maybe I'll put pine tar up my balls so that I can hit longer home runs. Suddenly A-Roid gets 100 Lbs. of pine tar at his mansion. --Associated Press
Yeah it helps them keep control on the ball which prevents batters from accidentally being hit. Unfortunately it also increases the spin rate so the mlb probably won’t ever allow it
@@shrimp19921 yeah as someone who played college ball that’s bullshit. Was never the reason our pitchers used it. Decreased their walk rates enormously. Strikeouts never increased much
@@shrimp19921 i know right. they've actually shown that HBPs have gone up with the increased usage of these substances. the increased controlled argument is just something pitchers like to argue but there is no evidence.
The announcer was talking about how the only use of pine tar is to get a better grip when that is not the only thing it can be used for. Pine tar can also be used to make marks on the ball, which can help people throw curve balls since the ball will interact with the wind differently.
Nahian Rahman Pine tar is also sometimes used by pitchers in baseball to improve grip on the ball in cold weather, although it is questionable whether it gives a pitcher any competitive advantage.
How they perform now affects how much they make later on arbitration and contract. Keep in mind these are greedy athletes who waste most of their money.
I was listening to Mike Krukow tonight, and he made a point I hadn't considered. He said it's an unwritten rule that, during cold weather, a pitcher uses pine tar so he can feel the ball. But if the Yankees manager is going to point fingers one night, and the next night your starting pitcher is wearing it on his neck, well guess what? 10 game suspension.
there's got to be some shenanigans going on. no one can be THAT stupid, especially when you know the TV cameras will be on you ALL GAME, especially during a red sox game. he put it on the most exposed part of his body, you can even hear the crowd yelling "he's got that pine tar!(taaa)"
Lol the commentator asked why did he try to make it so apparent, he didnt he thought he could take advantage of the fact that his skin would hide the tar
+Gary Verderamo As a sox fan I don't even care that he was using it. A lot of batters have been said to prefer it because the pitchers can avoid hitting them in cold weather. What I think is annoying is how blatant he was with it. EVERYONE could see it on his neck from the start of the game. At least try to be discrete.
Everyone uses it, my backside! Even with two Cy Youngs, Bruce Bochy would bench Tim Lincecum in a heartbeat if he found he was using pine tar to "improve his grip". That might fly in NY, but never in SF. The fans would throw a fit. Now, everyone's going to point to Barry Bonds, and you'd be right. But we learned from it, and never again.
These guys play pro ball on NATIONAL TELEVISION! Its just stupid to think you could get away with it....especially twice. Should be fined and suspended.
Farrell handled this perfectly - he went out Jerry Davis and calmly asked him to check for pine tar. If you read his lips, you can see he says, "It's all over his neck right now."
Mene Tekel It's disrespectful to the organization. His hat and uniform are representative of his team. If a guy shows up to work with his tie all crooked, you don't think they'd want him to look nicer?...
disrespectful to who? if a player is performing well the owners don't care if he wears his hat crooked, the manager doesn't care, the team mates don't care, the only people that care are a few traditional fans.
Well first of all, this guy's obviously not performing well because he's a cheater. Anyway, a "professional" player wearing his hat like some wannabe rapper is just stupid and they're getting paid millions of dollars, so the least they could do is wear their uniforms like they're suppose to. Discussion over.
How he wears his hat has nothing to do with him cheating so your argument has no logic. If the owner, who is paying his salary, doesn't care and neither do his team mates why should you?
Okay, thanks, Brewer fan. How's the season going so far? One of my best friends sits in section 126 and never misses a game, but I haven't talked to her since Christmas. I love that park, BTW... except when the Giants lose there. :-P
Not to jinx them or anything, but theyre off to a great stat and I hope they can keep it that way. Injuries killed them last year so it's good to have the bats back. Pitching has been solid and they look really solidified as a team. Divisional wins are a must, and the Cardinals are always a pain to deal with.
Yankees announcer are the worst. First they blame Farrell because they think Buchholz cheated, and then they say they think cheating should be legalized. "WHAT'S WRONG WITH CHEATING??" they ask.
It wasn't Pinedas fault it was cold and windy in Boston he says himself that he didn't want to hit anyone because in the first inning he was throwing all over the place but people see it in a different way because it's the Yankees listen to the commentator not Michael Kay the other guy he even said why is it bad to get a better grip
Man I wish everyone in this clip was mic’d up. I’d love to hear what these guys are saying to each other about this…. Who thinks it’s a big deal, who thinks it’s not… etc. That kind of shit.
The problem that nobody is mentioning is that a week earlier in Yankee Stadium, Pineda was caught on camera having pine tar on his hand after the game was already over. They were looking for it this time
The Red Sox manager said “He understood using pine tar to get a better grip, on a cold night” but when it’s that obvious, it has to be called. Basically, if he kept it discreet, they wouldn’t have said anything. Because the Red Sox were doing the same thing, just more discreet about it.
The whole thing is comedy. You see it all over the pitcher. Derek freaking Jeter out there trying to play middle man. Knowing what was going on. And my favorite part. The utter casualness of the ump making the ejection.
players are the most important thing in all sports, then the referees i know some referees where players in the past also but they know the players talents makes for a more exciting game.
I’m watching this 9 years later, and I think the commentator contradicted himself talking about having a better grip being OK after saying earlier that it’s against the rules to have foreign substances to have a better grip, as I recall he made a point about the rosin bag being out on the mound already. With that said, is there really a need for using, in this case, pine tar? Is the rosin bag that inept for helping get a better grip? Just want to make sure I understand that properly
Alex Knight Agreed, they didn't just take the homer announcer route. Speak the truth. The other guy asks why is it illegal? Because you can't force umps to try and figure out what foreign substance is helping you spin the ball vs get a better grip. The rule is there and it's easy to enforce, only natural abilities on both side are allowed.
I think the Red Sox (which is the team the Yankees were versing) should've been called out on it too during the World Series. Is wasn't pine tar but they were wearing hair products that does the same thing. With that being said keep in mind that it is the minor leagues who do the 10 game suspension. It's up to the mlb to suspend him or not. They could go less or they could just not suspend him at all. The 10 game rule is a minor league thing. Not a major league thing. Me personally. I think he should get suspended for the 10 games for the pine tar, and then 20 games for being so stupid. Also keep in mind that catchers do relay pine tar on the ball back to the pitchers sometimes. Catchers have been known to put some on their plastics and apply it to the ball before they send it back to the pitcher. So keep that in mind too.
It’s so weird watching this video years later when most fans now accept that pitchers use pine tar while 6 years ago fans were outraged with this incident
just like last year in the playoffs, game 3 of the ALCS Cleveland against Toronto, Trevor Bauer was pitching for Cleveland and had a nasty laceration on his finger, the stitches broke and he was bleeding, 2/3 of the way through the 1st inning Toronto manager John Gibbons protested and after a quick inspection by the ump Bauer was ejected because any substance (expect for the Rosen bag they provide) is not allowed, Under the rules Bauer couldn't even put a bandage on his finger. the pitching hand has to be completely bare. The big twist though is usually the umps won't enforce it unless the opposing manager complains. Didn't work out for the jays though, Cleveland still won and went on to win the series in 5 games.
jimjam can you New York idiots just once admit you are wrong and the guy cheating clearly? He wouldn't have been a ejected if he wasn't cheating. can you classless bunch of goons actually do something right for once?
@vjm3 Yeah let's start enforcing the "foreign substance" rule for every little thing. Oh wait guys, that player just touched his hair for a split second before the pitch, let's stop the game, go look at the replays and decide if he'll be punished for it. But why stop there? Let's make it so whenever a player gets sweat from their hands onto the ball... it's against the rules, pitchers aren't allowed to sweat while on the mound anymore guys. I'm sure everyone would enjoy watching game stoppages for a bunch of idiots in New York to decide if a pitcher got to much hair grease or sweat onto the baseball before the pitch? Ffs...
Its not 4a better grip... It adds weight to the ball... It makes the ball move more unpredictably... Apples&Oranges compared to why there is a rosin bag on the mound, like the announcer is suggesting...
Never cared for this rule. When I was playing college ball I'd rather have the pitcher use something to get a better grip of the ball then to have 93mph heaters thrown towards my head.
Not long after this a Red Sox fan I know was at a Red Sox Yankees game and I asked her if she was close enough to see the pine tar on the pitcher’s neck
I have to comment on this: As a once Yankee and a baseball fan, Michael Pineda should be ashamed and embarrassed. In the last 7-10 years, my interest of watching baseball has dwindled. For example, players that I used cheer such as A-Rod and Barry Bonds used steroids and PEDs. When will players learn that there are no shortcuts in baseball and all of pro sports.
Fred Ardon You are an idiot. A pitcher using pine tar to get a better grip shouldn't even be considered cheating. Massive difference between using cameras to know a pitch.
Watch the Dodgers entire pitching staff, watch Kirby Yates, watch the Houston Astros entire staff, Craig Kimbrel. it's pathetic. You wonder why these teams are so good every year (Red Sox do have an explosive offense to be fair).
I've watched this like three times now but I don't see anything blatantly homosexual. Maybe a player of the game like yourself can tell me what subtle homosexual advances or behaviors are being engaged in?
I remember Suzy Waldman crying on commentary with John Sterling about Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz....they didn't literally have pine tar ON THEIR NECK WITH EVERYONE LOOKING.
Notice how the Yankees announcer is making excuses for Michael Pineda: "What's wrong with getting a better grip?" BUT...! When Tom Brady was falsely accused of "deflating" a football, what did ESPN say? "An underinflated ball is EASIER TO GRIP." This, in spite of the FACT that Ideal Gas Laws proved Brady did NOT "deflate" anything, AND using an underinflated ball did NOT give him any advantage! Hypocrisy. Double-standard. Plain and simple!
+David Lafleche You know whats really not being acknowledged. Nfl minimum ball pressure is 12.5 but the limit is 13.5. There is a loophole right there. If brady likes his ball at 12.5 which is legal. The ball can still lose pressure after that. I hate how everyone denies science in this aspect. The man chose the ball to be at minimum. Colts ball also lost air at the same rate with NE's, like doesn't science justify that? There is nothing wrong with that and I can guaranteed he's not the only QB who wants a smaller ball. NFL set that rule up on their own and incompetence kicked in. Now they're being little whiny rascals for their faulty mistake. They obviously didnt give a damn enough because if they had and SUPPOSEDLY knew something was going around. I would've had security or someone undercover around those balls to be sure. Of course they didn't because NO ONE cared.
I think the REAL reason ESPN smeared Brady was because he is a Trump supporter. After all, they illegally fired Curt Schilling, and allowed Stephen A. Smith to say things that were far worse. The hope of the hypocrite shall perish.
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The guy in the background at 0:22 points out where the pine tar is.
i love giardi walking out there with his arms crossed like aww fuck i gotta act like i need an explanation
Ryan Hedrick he probably had to talk to the ump for who is coming in to pitch for pineda
Why put it on your frigging head???? its a 10 game suspension, but I'd give him 30 for lack of creativity...
Well he does have "Pine" In his last name...
haha
Zero irony. It was Vaseline!
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That was the very first thing I thought about after he got ejected. He literally made news organization's job so much easier when it came to creating clever titles for their front page. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. 😒
Lol jeter acting like he doesn’t know there’s pine tar 😂
I've never seen someone fail so hard at cheating.
Exactly and of course it’s going to be the Yankees
0:13 “He’s got it all over his neck right now”
I love how the commentator tries to justify Pineda cheating
+Bobby Lawson cheating is cheating but its ok to cheat... cause everyone does it... but its a rule buts ts ok to cheat since every does it... so i guess they also think its ok to speed and break the law cause people do that to...
***** It's never okay to cheat in my book
+Bobby Lawson Trust me i agree 100%
He is basically saying it's alright to cheat, but if it was the Red Sox with pine tar, he'd be ripping Boston as a city
Trey Stevens Exactly.
John Farrell goes "It's all over his neck right now" too fucking funny
The original Jomboy.
I love how the ump felt the stuff on his neck rubbed his fingers and then just mom chalantly tossed him out of the game! 💪😎😁
I like how jeter is there as a consultant on use of pine tar.
Anthony Palumbo he is the team captain
Jeter the idiot that thinks he knows everything.
@@kevin62387 He going to defend his pitcher and team no matter what... same with any other caption
2:11 "I still don't understand that rule, as to why it's a bad thing for a pitcher to have a better grip. We're not talking about altering the flight or integrity of the pitch"
Well, yes you are. If the pitcher can get a better grip on the ball, he can do more with it. It's why if you get two cars that are exactly the same, put great tyres on one and sh*t tyres on the other, the one with great tyres will drive better.
"Tyres"
Because of the ability to rotate the ball
Yup. Spin rate increases the stronger your grip when the ball has been released.
@@krisvaras7801 that's the british spelling
Don't forget more importantly the changes brought about by any substance spread on contact spot between the bat and the ball while being hit.
Just because the word "Pine" is in your last name doesn't mean you can slather pine oil all over your body w/o anybody noticing.
LOL! I Good catch!
It's not pine oil, it's pine TAR.
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Okay, I laughed.
lol youtube is trying to sell me pine tar sticks.
haha
Now I'm here on this website and seeing someone trying to sell me black tar heroin.
As a Yankee fan my whole life this is a disgrace. The team don't nor the owners have love for the game anymore. If George was alive this wouldn't have happened at all. He would have traded Pineda and anyone else involved in a heartbeat.
Jeeze, I could see the tar on a 144p video! lol
I'll bet Alex (A-Roids) Rodriguez started thinking gee if I come back next year to baseball maybe I'll put pine tar up my balls so that I can hit longer home runs. Suddenly A-Roid gets 100 Lbs. of pine tar at his mansion. --Associated Press
Here comes testicular cancer.
Michael Kay tells the truth, he even destroyed his own co-worker. "If you're gonna cheat why put it on your neck?"... LOL
Pineda is just one stupid person. No attempt to hide it
And yet Pineda is still pitching in 2018. Whenever he pitches you are just looking for Pine Tar on his neck and hands.
Yet everyone doesn't realize that every pitcher uses it.
Yeah it helps them keep control on the ball which prevents batters from accidentally being hit. Unfortunately it also increases the spin rate so the mlb probably won’t ever allow it
@@skl4189 the increase control argument is nonsense. Hit by pitches are increasing every year. It makes their pitches nastier. That’s it.
@@shrimp19921 yeah as someone who played college ball that’s bullshit. Was never the reason our pitchers used it. Decreased their walk rates enormously. Strikeouts never increased much
@@shrimp19921 i know right. they've actually shown that HBPs have gone up with the increased usage of these substances. the increased controlled argument is just something pitchers like to argue but there is no evidence.
@@skl4189 I don’t care that you played college ball. HBP are up. That’s indisputable.
The announcer was talking about how the only use of pine tar is to get a better grip when that is not the only thing it can be used for. Pine tar can also be used to make marks on the ball, which can help people throw curve balls since the ball will interact with the wind differently.
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im new to baseball... what's the benefit of using pine tar while pitching?
It gives the pitchers better grip on the ball
MWaddict1 i see thanks :)
Nahian Rahman i also changes the path of the ball making it much harder to hit
Nahian Rahman Pine tar is also sometimes used by pitchers in baseball to improve grip on the ball in cold weather, although it is questionable whether it gives a pitcher any competitive advantage.
Hard Candy Tell that to Tom Brady!
Farrell was complaining Pineda's hat was crooked and he was a disgrace to baseball. Umps went to fix it then noticed the pine tar.
I thought the pine tar would blend in with his skin because he is so dark but it is actually pretty obvious on TV.
I wonder if he thought that to. "Just put a dab here nobody will notice."
What does pine tar even do?
@@domvlogs3299 it gives better grip and helps with off speed pitches
Inside of the belt? Pretend to be pulling pants up? Much easier ^.^
iLLiCiTMedia whats the point of the belt if he has to pretend to pull up pants.. and after every pitch. lol
+Austin Lord Just do it for the pitches that count
I don't understand why these guys feel the need to cheat when they make so much money to play a game/sport. Give me his salary!!
How they perform now affects how much they make later on arbitration and contract. Keep in mind these are greedy athletes who waste most of their money.
best part is the YES announcer trying to act impartial but then defends cheating. stay classy.
I was listening to Mike Krukow tonight, and he made a point I hadn't considered. He said it's an unwritten rule that, during cold weather, a pitcher uses pine tar so he can feel the ball. But if the Yankees manager is going to point fingers one night, and the next night your starting pitcher is wearing it on his neck, well guess what? 10 game suspension.
there's got to be some shenanigans going on. no one can be THAT stupid, especially when you know the TV cameras will be on you ALL GAME, especially during a red sox game. he put it on the most exposed part of his body, you can even hear the crowd yelling "he's got that pine tar!(taaa)"
Lol the commentator asked why did he try to make it so apparent, he didnt he thought he could take advantage of the fact that his skin would hide the tar
maybe he thinks Obama will come and save his black ass
Stan Stuben NO AL RACISMO!!!
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Im black you idiot. And even if i wasnt you see what you did there? like I cant even comment about the dudes skin color?
About time the Yankees get caught.
About time the Red Sox got caught too
@@l...l8748 in 2018? Hell yeah. Cheating bastards
@@courtgizzle yeah
"I don't wanna go on rant about this" [30 seconds later: proceeds to go on a rant about it]
I'm a lifelong Yankee fan. He deserved to be tossed, fined and suspended. Just as A-rod deserved it and anyone else caught cheating. OUT YA GO ya bum!
+Gary Verderamo As a sox fan I don't even care that he was using it. A lot of batters have been said to prefer it because the pitchers can avoid hitting them in cold weather. What I think is annoying is how blatant he was with it. EVERYONE could see it on his neck from the start of the game. At least try to be discrete.
next time I stroke my weiner I might try pine tar, I do need a better grip on it
That small? Alrighty then!
I was at this game, and it was amazing to watch him get ejected
TheGamingUniverse if i was a red sox fan i would have started dying with laughter
TheGamingUniverse glad you were at the game, did you enjoy losing the game as much as watching pineda get thrown out?lmao
TheGamingUniverse 8-6.. was a good game though.
LMAO as soon as jeter looks at his neck, he turns away and never looks again hah
He’s the one who must of called John Farrell on his cell phone
Everyone uses it, my backside! Even with two Cy Youngs, Bruce Bochy would bench Tim Lincecum in a heartbeat if he found he was using pine tar to "improve his grip". That might fly in NY, but never in SF. The fans would throw a fit.
Now, everyone's going to point to Barry Bonds, and you'd be right. But we learned from it, and never again.
Yup..look at melky. We could of played him in playoffs but didn't...who won the world series that season?!!? LOL
Yup. He got suspended, and was immediately traded after the season. He was not welcomed back.
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Well that's because Bochy has always been a man of integrity. Speaking as a Padres fan, Giants fans/players are lucky to have him.
yup. I like the Padres, and as happy as I was to see him in SF, it was sad to see him leave San Diego.
These guys play pro ball on NATIONAL TELEVISION! Its just stupid to think you could get away with it....especially twice. Should be fined and suspended.
suspended? hell no jail time and a lifetime ban from baseball!!
Stan Stuben
Why not send him to Guantanamo Bay?..That will send a message to everyone else who thinks about doing the same.
Stan Stuben jail time?!?!?! Holy hell glad your not president...if i cheat on a math test i might do 5-10 years in federal prison lol
I was at a bowling alley when this happened and when they threw him out the whole bowling alley started roaring.
He had it on his wrist in his last start, and thought no one would notice it this time.
I wonder how many guys got away with this before high definition cameras came along.
hell, even the fan in the first row - red and blue jacket talking on the cell phone could see it - check it out at the 0:23 mark in the vid
Farrell handled this perfectly - he went out Jerry Davis and calmly asked him to check for pine tar. If you read his lips, you can see he says, "It's all over his neck right now."
I saw what he said, “That’s pine tar, you’re gone.” 😂😂😂
The commentator truly has no idea what the hell he's talking about.
I went to this game and couldn't stop laughing, what are the odds the one game I went to became so famous
He just got suspended 60 games for PED's. Guy is a fraud.
Everyone uses pine tar. Put it on the inside of the glove, back pocket, socks, hat, under the shirt, but who the fuck puts that shit on their neck?
So does pine tar change something & what is it?
Maybe he should wear his hat straight, too.
Why do people care so much how players wear their hat?
Mene Tekel It's disrespectful to the organization. His hat and uniform are representative of his team. If a guy shows up to work with his tie all crooked, you don't think they'd want him to look nicer?...
disrespectful to who? if a player is performing well the owners don't care if he wears his hat crooked, the manager doesn't care, the team mates don't care, the only people that care are a few traditional fans.
Well first of all, this guy's obviously not performing well because he's a cheater. Anyway, a "professional" player wearing his hat like some wannabe rapper is just stupid and they're getting paid millions of dollars, so the least they could do is wear their uniforms like they're suppose to. Discussion over.
How he wears his hat has nothing to do with him cheating so your argument has no logic. If the owner, who is paying his salary, doesn't care and neither do his team mates why should you?
Was he suspended for 10 games, or 10 starts? PLEASE tell me it's 10 starts.
Fuck you MLB isn't stupid like you it's ten days Fuck Face how would you like it being away for 10 starts because you used Pinetar you dumb fuck
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Okay, trolls don't count. Does anyone know?
Its 10 games period. That means the Yankees next 10 scheduled games, he cannot play.
Okay, thanks, Brewer fan. How's the season going so far? One of my best friends sits in section 126 and never misses a game, but I haven't talked to her since Christmas. I love that park, BTW... except when the Giants lose there. :-P
Not to jinx them or anything, but theyre off to a great stat and I hope they can keep it that way. Injuries killed them last year so it's good to have the bats back. Pitching has been solid and they look really solidified as a team. Divisional wins are a must, and the Cardinals are always a pain to deal with.
Trying to lip read the conversation between Jeter and Ump. Fun stuff!
Yankees announcer are the worst. First they blame Farrell because they think Buchholz cheated, and then they say they think cheating should be legalized. "WHAT'S WRONG WITH CHEATING??" they ask.
Let the Tigers bullpen use this, hate my team coughing up huge leads >=(
As a Yankee fan i feel embarrassed. NYY doesn't need stupid cheaters to win. Never.
It wasn't Pinedas fault it was cold and windy in Boston he says himself that he didn't want to hit anyone because in the first inning he was throwing all over the place but people see it in a different way because it's the Yankees listen to the commentator not Michael Kay the other guy he even said why is it bad to get a better grip
Jonathon Cano Easy fix. DONT PLAY IF YOU SUCK. Boston did just fine without cheating. Don't try to justify having an unfair advantage.
David Cone said that he used pine tar in games sometimes.
peter pandora boston has cheated in the past as well, everyone has their days where they just don't do well
peter pandora What? Clay Buccholz is a fuckin cheater. fuckin greaseball slathers his cheap hair products all over the ball every time he throws
Man I wish everyone in this clip was mic’d up. I’d love to hear what these guys are saying to each other about this…. Who thinks it’s a big deal, who thinks it’s not… etc. That kind of shit.
remember how much big a fuss they made about this?
Now even the commissioner knows and doesn't even care.
I remember this in school 🤣 then my friend proceeds to use pine tar for their playoff game but he gets away with it😭
They don't care about sticky shit on any level under college
The problem that nobody is mentioning is that a week earlier in Yankee Stadium, Pineda was caught on camera having pine tar on his hand after the game was already over. They were looking for it this time
Makes me wonder about Tonaka.
Watching Pineda play on the twins right now against the Sox, they just mentioned it that he had pine tar on him hahha
At least he went out calmly.
And now what?... Pineda is going to say It was dirt again..
HE SHOULD BE ASHAME OF HIMSELF
He admitted it was pine tar
Of course, he didn't had any other option now...
you cant spell pineda without typing pine
Thats probably why he thinks its okay for him to rub it all over his body.
It's gotta suck to be the person like when inspect and they probably say oh no in their head
The Red Sox manager said “He understood using pine tar to get a better grip, on a cold night” but when it’s that obvious, it has to be called.
Basically, if he kept it discreet, they wouldn’t have said anything. Because the Red Sox were doing the same thing, just more discreet about it.
When do I keep coming back to watch this every 3-6 months?
The whole thing is comedy. You see it all over the pitcher. Derek freaking Jeter out there trying to play middle man. Knowing what was going on. And my favorite part. The utter casualness of the ump making the ejection.
Jeter has to get in there for an explanation? If I were the Umpire, I'd be like, "And you are???"
The greatest ss ever and teams captain
i would reply with "im Derrick Jeter". that should be enough.
+Alexandros Efthimiou Derek
players are the most important thing in all sports, then the referees i know some referees where players in the past also but they know the players talents makes for a more exciting game.
That's weird. Joe Girardi knew about all along
I’m watching this 9 years later, and I think the commentator contradicted himself talking about having a better grip being OK after saying earlier that it’s against the rules to have foreign substances to have a better grip, as I recall he made a point about the rosin bag being out on the mound already. With that said, is there really a need for using, in this case, pine tar? Is the rosin bag that inept for helping get a better grip? Just want to make sure I understand that properly
Jeter is like uhhhhhhhhh what's going on duhhhhhh 🤣🤣🤣
lol @ these YES announcers
Except Michael Kay, he told the truth.
Alex Knight Agreed, they didn't just take the homer announcer route. Speak the truth. The other guy asks why is it illegal? Because you can't force umps to try and figure out what foreign substance is helping you spin the ball vs get a better grip. The rule is there and it's easy to enforce, only natural abilities on both side are allowed.
I think the Red Sox (which is the team the Yankees were versing) should've been called out on it too during the World Series. Is wasn't pine tar but they were wearing hair products that does the same thing. With that being said keep in mind that it is the minor leagues who do the 10 game suspension. It's up to the mlb to suspend him or not. They could go less or they could just not suspend him at all. The 10 game rule is a minor league thing. Not a major league thing. Me personally. I think he should get suspended for the 10 games for the pine tar, and then 20 games for being so stupid. Also keep in mind that catchers do relay pine tar on the ball back to the pitchers sometimes. Catchers have been known to put some on their plastics and apply it to the ball before they send it back to the pitcher. So keep that in mind too.
Hahaha yes they do. I can't stand the Yankees. I don't like Boston either.
primalaggression So does your mother
Thats what I told you mother! lol
You can tell just by looking at Pineda that he thinking "what can I argue?
What an absolute disgrace.
Guess he said they'll never catch my "Black Ass" with this one. LOL
It’s so weird watching this video years later when most fans now accept that pitchers use pine tar while 6 years ago fans were outraged with this incident
Yea it’s just because of the astros scandal. Got everyone desensitized to cheating and being dishonest
I don't think we should really be surprised. After all, "Pineda" is Spanish for "Pine-Tar."
Lol someone clearly needs a hug...
Breakdown this JomBoy
I like how pineda is suspended for a bit of pine tar, yet Clay Buccholz can rub his disgusting hair grease all over the ball and nobody gives a damn
Nolan Ryan's Bloody Lip It wasn't pine tar he didn't have any. It was a foreign substance on his neck
+jetshockey5
8.02 states that ANY foreign substance is not allowed. Spit isn't even allowed.
just like last year in the playoffs, game 3 of the ALCS Cleveland against Toronto, Trevor Bauer was pitching for Cleveland and had a nasty laceration on his finger, the stitches broke and he was bleeding, 2/3 of the way through the 1st inning Toronto manager John Gibbons protested and after a quick inspection by the ump Bauer was ejected because any substance (expect for the Rosen bag they provide) is not allowed, Under the rules Bauer couldn't even put a bandage on his finger. the pitching hand has to be completely bare. The big twist though is usually the umps won't enforce it unless the opposing manager complains. Didn't work out for the jays though, Cleveland still won and went on to win the series in 5 games.
jimjam can you New York idiots just once admit you are wrong and the guy cheating clearly? He wouldn't have been a ejected if he wasn't cheating. can you classless bunch of goons actually do something right for once?
@vjm3
Yeah let's start enforcing the "foreign substance" rule for every little thing.
Oh wait guys, that player just touched his hair for a split second before the pitch, let's stop the game, go look at the replays and decide if he'll be punished for it.
But why stop there?
Let's make it so whenever a player gets sweat from their hands onto the ball... it's against the rules, pitchers aren't allowed to sweat while on the mound anymore guys.
I'm sure everyone would enjoy watching game stoppages for a bunch of idiots in New York to decide if a pitcher got to much hair grease or sweat onto the baseball before the pitch?
Ffs...
Its not 4a better grip...
It adds weight to the ball...
It makes the ball move more unpredictably...
Apples&Oranges compared to why there is a rosin bag on the mound, like the announcer is suggesting...
pine tar was the topic at work today
Pinetarneda..
lmfao
Never cared for this rule. When I was playing college ball I'd rather have the pitcher use something to get a better grip of the ball then to have 93mph heaters thrown towards my head.
The helmet will protect your head
Except HBP rates are higher than ever and everyone is using it now. So that excuse is obviously bullshit
Not long after this a Red Sox fan I know was at a Red Sox Yankees game and I asked her if she was close enough to see the pine tar on the pitcher’s neck
What is pine tar please help me
Rosin Bag! Tar makes the ball move different.. Any fool knows that,, besides his hat is crooked, giggle..
I have to comment on this: As a once Yankee and a baseball fan, Michael Pineda should be ashamed and embarrassed. In the last 7-10 years, my interest of watching baseball has dwindled. For example, players that I used cheer such as A-Rod and Barry Bonds used steroids and PEDs. When will players learn that there are no shortcuts in baseball and all of pro sports.
& That makes the picher pine tar that prompted it tell me
omg xD I got Pine Tar adds on the sides during this vid lol
Should have shook him down. Prob would have found a baggie of coke on him.
And Yankees mad at the Astros for cheating lmao!
Fred Ardon You are an idiot. A pitcher using pine tar to get a better grip shouldn't even be considered cheating. Massive difference between using cameras to know a pitch.
But the Yankees cheated but they would need a runner on 2nd
Robert Butchko the Yankees and Red Sox are a joke to the astros
Are you serious?
Robert Butchko Exactly
Watch the Dodgers entire pitching staff, watch Kirby Yates, watch the Houston Astros entire staff, Craig Kimbrel. it's pathetic. You wonder why these teams are so good every year (Red Sox do have an explosive offense to be fair).
I hope Gerry Davis has a picture of that conversation with Jeter framed. Just a pretty baseball moment.
This is a gay rule let pitchers use pine tar hitters use three pounds of the stuff all at once
Big difference from gripping a bat and a ball
I've watched this like three times now but I don't see anything blatantly homosexual. Maybe a player of the game like yourself can tell me what subtle homosexual advances or behaviors are being engaged in?
+misssnowflakewhite very funny joke
What is it
I remember Suzy Waldman crying on commentary with John Sterling about Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz....they didn't literally have pine tar ON THEIR NECK WITH EVERYONE LOOKING.
What he do ??
Can someone tell me what the pine tar even does on his neck?
Notice how the Yankees announcer is making excuses for Michael Pineda: "What's wrong with getting a better grip?" BUT...! When Tom Brady was falsely accused of "deflating" a football, what did ESPN say? "An underinflated ball is EASIER TO GRIP." This, in spite of the FACT that Ideal Gas Laws proved Brady did NOT "deflate" anything, AND using an underinflated ball did NOT give him any advantage! Hypocrisy. Double-standard. Plain and simple!
+David Lafleche these are bad annoucers but i dont think there same ones as espn
ESPN is the worst, worse even than FOX. They are puppets for Roger Goodell and his gang of thugs.
+David Lafleche You know whats really not being acknowledged. Nfl minimum ball pressure is 12.5 but the limit is 13.5. There is a loophole right there. If brady likes his ball at 12.5 which is legal. The ball can still lose pressure after that. I hate how everyone denies science in this aspect. The man chose the ball to be at minimum. Colts ball also lost air at the same rate with NE's, like doesn't science justify that? There is nothing wrong with that and I can guaranteed he's not the only QB who wants a smaller ball. NFL set that rule up on their own and incompetence kicked in. Now they're being little whiny rascals for their faulty mistake. They obviously didnt give a damn enough because if they had and SUPPOSEDLY knew something was going around. I would've had security or someone undercover around those balls to be sure. Of course they didn't because NO ONE cared.
I think the REAL reason ESPN smeared Brady was because he is a Trump supporter. After all, they illegally fired Curt Schilling, and allowed Stephen A. Smith to say things that were far worse. The hope of the hypocrite shall perish.
You can see it on his neck plain as day. Shameful!
Whether the announcer understands it or not, it is against the rules, end of story.
The shape of the thing on his neck LOL