Using sticky substances doesnt really bother me since that stuff has always been in baseball, it was pitchers getting mad and throwing at players for celebrating hits and HR's when they are cheating. The hypocrisy is what made me upset at the cheating.
the "sticky stuff" that pitchers are using today isn't what has been usually used... these are substances that are used to glue cinderblocks together or help strongmen grip atlas stones. not pine tar or sunscreen and rosin. It completely unbalances the pitcher hitter dynamic since increased spin rate increase swing and miss. This was a massive issue, and right after the ban Offence increased and averages increased by i believe 50 points across baseball. The Sticky Stuff was a massive problem.
The prohibition in the rules is my only objection. If the union and MLB came up with one recipe to get a little grip on the ball and made it a rule, then great.
Baseball itself is lathered in hypocrisy. I used to be on the side of anti PED users in the hall. But over time, I've soured on baseballs self delusion. As if its the purest sport of the major 3. It's why I roll my eyes on folks who hate the Astros or Red Sox for the signs. All the while pitchers tried every chance to get an advantage.
Cole has to have every little thing go right for him in game or he unravels. He will be cruising along, then an unlucky base hit or something happens and then boom three run homer. Watching it happen is almost poetic lol.
My son is currently a d3 catcher right now. And we've both seen a lot of this over the years. He even became known as The Pitcher Whisperer after turning around several outings after just a short visit to the mound. some pitchers are real head cases. It must be a thing because my glove leather wallet has a saying printed inside of the bill area....."Shut up and pitch."
I miss Correa and I miss springer. But shit I don’t miss cole😂 you said it best he’s a third or second pitcher type. And that’s who the Yankees have as their ace? Shit no wonder we swept them😂
As a lifelong Yankee fan, mid 90's to present, I have to say this vid is on point. Cole and Chapman were heavily dependent on the sticky stuff and haven't been the same since the crackdown. It's indisputable at this point. They cheated. They can't anymore. And now they suck. Cole may turn out to be the biggest bust since Ellsbury, A-Rod, Pavano, you name it. Might be the worst ever, of any team.
When the Yankees resigned A-Rod after he opted out in 2007 then yes, definitely not a good investment. But if I remember correctly he still wasn't that bad in the field. And he played basically every day. The problem with pitchers is that they only pitch every 5 days. So in theory they get paid way more per game. And even in today's game, Cole's numbers do not justify 36 mill a year, at all. I would say that he is the biggest bust for the Yankee's in the current era.
If we’re gonna talk about this form of cheating well then it really benefited your 2018 Red Sox considering that whole pitching staff was beyond fraudulent in 2018. It’s true. It ain’t just Cole
I don't think that's the point he was making. He isn't calling out the yankees and he states that cole is a good pitcher. Also if you actually watch the video, he calls out a sox pitcher.
@@ItsHuggies I just think he uses Cole as an example due to his inanely expensive contract. I don’t think he is staying that other teams and pitchers didn’t benefit as well.
This is exactly why I laugh at the clowns bitching about the astros all the time. EVERY TEAM CHEATS! Yankees got caught doing the same shit the astros did the year after they got caught yet no one said anything. In a competitive game where people are payed 100's of millions of dollars people will always find ways to cheat.
I mean he included a Red Sox pitcher and its pretty clear their starting pitching is bad. But they also won 3 titles otherwise in this century. Only those Giants can say that. Yankees have lowkey never been the same since 2004. A shell of a dynasty and there's zero reason to believe they do anything with this iteration of their team. No heart.
I would love a deep dive collab into foreign substances between you and Baseball Doesn't Exist. The ultimate video essay on modern baseball pitching tactics and strategy.
cole has still been good just unlucky. he walks almost no one strikes out a bunch of batters gets tons of whiffs and chases as well. the only thing that has changed is his home run rate has sky rocketed Gerrit Cole's American League Ranks: T-9 in Wins 5th in WHIP 7th in H/9 10th in BB/9 2nd in K/9 1st in IP 1st in Ks 5th in K/BB 30th in era T-5 in Quality Starts. a pitcher with those numbers shouldn't have that high of an era his luck will balance out
The Yankees were in court to keep the evidence of their cheating from being exposed! This cheating scandal was said to be massive, the largest in baseball history! However, the Yankees and MLB were able to coerce the court from releasing the evidence of the Yankees’ cheating from being released to the public thanks to the power that the the Yankees and MLB have on the justice system and the politicians. Throughout their history the Yankees were able to keep their crimes from being exposed thanks to the influence that they have being that they are baseball’s most powerful organization, a power that includes their ability to get favorable calls from umpires that call strikes and balls! With the ability of the Yankees to cheat with impunity one has to wonder how many of the Yankees’ 27 World Series titles were “won” by shady means! What is the extent of the Yankees’ crimes in order for them to game the system so that they could secure all of those World Series titles? Many baseball fans that have kept up with the sport believe the Yankees are the most corrupt organization in all of sports and that’s why the Yankees are able to “win” all of those titles that are estimated to be 25% of all World Series titles!
I have heard that a pitcher reaches their prime at 33 (still having some gas , and alot of experience) rather than early 20s with just gas and late 30s with just experience. If Gerrit Cole can't get it together by the time he turns 33, that will suck !
Nolan Ryan.... Stop reading so much internet trash. Its like that now because pitchers are coming up throwing harder than the avg and throwing breaking pitches at younger ages causing them to need Tommy Johns by 25. There were plenty of older pitchers that killed the game. Curt Schilling, Randy Johnson, Roget Clemens etc.......
As an Astros fan I have to admit watching Cole go downhill after the ban has been a little enjoyable. Its got nothing to do with the Yankees, I would feel this way no matter what other team he played for, but on his way out he made a lot of remarks about the Astros and basically said F Houston, the Astros and the fans. Karma sure is a funny thing.
Whenever I've watched Cole this year I've never noticed a dominant start or a wow factor to his game. Always felt like something was missing, not to say he didn't have any amazing starts. But the majority just felt like solid average starts.
@@juanalexandergorjio5245 "cole is such a loser for being intense" "oh scherzer? he is just a gritty guy that gets locked in" the double standards is fucking insane. Scherzer's start in a MUST WIN PLAYOFF GAME was far worse than any single Cole start that he has ever had
Other teams not named the Astros actually cheat? Wow...I thought no one ever cheated in baseball based on all the pearl clutching other ( hypocritical) fans did 😂
Former Yankees fan here. When we got Cole from Houston, I was so elated. But he's like a different player now. In Houston he seemed like a man of few words who just got the job done, dignified. Now, he seems so fragile, so easily damaged, and whines when things don't go his way. When he couldn't take that joke from Gardy, it was evidence how paper thin his self-confidence is.
Yogi Berra used a metal file to sharpen the edge on one of the buckles on his right shin guard. When he would get his hands on a new ball he would drag it across the sharp buckle edge.
"A rosin bag is a small canvas bag filled with rosin powder (a sticky substance extracted from the sap of fir trees) used by pitchers to improve their grip on the baseball and keep their hands dry. The rules specifically allow the rosin bag to be kept on the field of play." So, that's not enough for these pitchers? Here's my solution: pitchers can use the spider tack crap, but the mound has to be backed up a few feet to be in the geometric center of the diamond. And the mound can even be raised a few inches back to where it was before it was lowered in the 1960s. The reaction time for the hitters will be increased, which will help them be more competitive against some of these ridiculous pitches they have to deal with.
Not saying everything in this video Ian true but it’s so obvious the caters to the national league side of baseball or at the very least, just seems to hate the Al EAST
My only complaint about his content is that it's always just common knowledge or baseball news that everybody has already talked about. I've never learned anything new from his content. That's my only knock on it.
Spider tac is WAY more of an advantage than steroids ......not sure why these pitchers dont get the same SHAME that guys like Bonds will ALWAYS get.....
Yankees giving a big contract and regreting it has been the theme for the team for 20 years. Imagine a salary cap and the Yankees actually having to develop players versus poaching the rest of the MLB teams.
probably because the team knew he was doing it and paid him anyways because his stuff was better than everyone else's stuff. Cant call it fraud if everyone involved is in on it.
As a Pirates Die-Hard. I watched Cole go through his tenure with a horrible attitude. Bitching and moaning at Searage and Hurdle about his outing while the Bucs had the lead. Not a team player. To me, that’s worse than any sticky substance.
the astros brought the substances to the league and made it mainstream. Know your baseball history. Do you not remember during their cheating run every pitcher that came over magically went up in spinrate and had career years? Come on brother you gotta pay attention to these things.
@@isaactejada2757 so the Astros brought the substance to the league and that's what was also told about them 😂😂😂... Bro don't talk about knowing your league or baseball when there is no proof about it ... Besides Cole using it after being in the yankees ... If that's "true" how you say... Why is JV still good...
@@joemontano4275 you do know cole was never great till he went to the Astros. Jv was falling apart till he went to the Astros and nearly every pitcher they signed ended up having spikes in spin rate. It’s a known fact that the Astros made that stat popular while playing with different substances during their cheating eras between 2016-2020. Pitching stuff goes way before that too. If you don’t know the league and don’t realize why they started keeping tract of that stat in the league and can’t see the correlation between why during that time only the Astros knew how teach spikes in spin rates. You just don’t know how to see the obvious
Even though the Yankees got Torres for a rental in Chapman, don’t forget the Cubs broke a century long drought because of him. They had no bullpen in 2016 till Chappy.
What is funny is that The Astro’s had a pitcher that was pissed off for not pitching in the postseason, and then being cut the next year after giving up 30+ homerun’s, and not even being as close to as good as Cole is, rat out the entire franchise for cheating, then never pitching against them again. I believe cheating is rampant in MLB, but now no one wants their career to end up like Fier’s, so we have to look at sample sizes now. Those pitcher’s were probably cheating as well due to their crazy spin rates back then as well.
The Yankees were in court to keep the evidence of their cheating from being exposed! This cheating scandal was said to be massive, the largest in baseball history! However, the Yankees and MLB were able to coerce the court from releasing the evidence of the Yankees’ cheating from being released to the public thanks to the power that the the Yankees and MLB have on the justice system and the politicians. Throughout their history the Yankees were able to keep their crimes from being exposed thanks to the influence that they have being that they are baseball’s most powerful organization, a power that includes their ability to get favorable calls from umpires that call strikes and balls! With the ability of the Yankees to cheat with impunity one has to wonder how many of the Yankees’ 27 World Series titles were “won” by shady means! What is the extent of the Yankees’ crimes in order for them to game the system so that they could secure all of those World Series titles? Many baseball fans that have kept up with the sport believe the Yankees are the most corrupt organization in all of sports and that’s why the Yankees are able to “win” all of those titles that are estimated to be 25% of all World Series titles!
In fairness to these guys, with launch angle and questions about a juiced ball, homers have gone off the chart. The substances were the pitchers' way to even things up
You're delusional if you think they were the only ones using it. Most pitchers in baseball were. Tyler Glasnow blew his elbow right after they started checking for substances. The league average spin rate dropped like crazy. The video is just trying to bait for views, and talking about the Yankees is just the perfect way to do it. Cole is the best pitcher the Yankees have had in over a decade and Chapman is a borderline hall of famer past his prime, you're crazy if you think they're an "embarrassment".
@@wilberts.cubero3629 🤣🤣🤣 Your mother and I are disappointed that you're still gluing your pubic hair to your face after we EXPLICITLY TOLD YOU to stop. Also, stop arguing with nutcrackers. It's weird, man.
Cole just THIS WEEK broke the single season strikeout record for a yankee pitcher, it just got overshadowed by Judge. Hes given up way to many hrs this season but his stikeouts are absolutely filthy, Chapman might be fair here but very harsh on Cole
@@jc24445 Cole is still the same pitcher. The thing that is keeping his ERA much higher is the home runs. He's in second with the most given up home runs. Most of the home runs given up are to mediocre batters which is really stupid
@@jc24445 it is fair to be harsh on him to some degree for the amount of homers he gives up. But suggesting he has less control now cuz of sticky stuff when his strikeout count is breaking records just seems silly. It takes a lot more accurate and controlled pitches to strike out a high number of batters than to give up 1-2 homers off 1-2 missed spots
@@Dr.Krankenstein "The thing that is keeping his ERA higher is the home runs." Literally the words I just said. Eliminate atleast some of those homers like the ones he gave up to the Mariners in the first inning and he will have a much lower ERA.
Cole is a extremely good pitcher, just not $36M/yr good. He'd still be the Ace on a majority of MLB teams. Just like in the steroid era the illegal substances made good players great and great players unbelievable-players still had to be extremely talented . It wasn't making career benchwarmers into hall of famers.
He is a slightly above average pitcher. After his sticky stuff was taken away, he stopped being even good. Let alone extremely good. He bad one great season. And has basically regressed to league average after sticky stuff was cracked down on.
@@GSP-76 strike outs don't mean shit if your era is only 11% lower than average. His fip is basically identical to his era. His job is to stop runs, not to strike people out.
Just make it legal. We already have a ton of equipment to aid in comfort and performance, and of course safety. We already allow resin bags, which is a grip aid, why not let them just go full sticky, level the playing field, instead of a few finding a way to still sneak it in, or people assuming they might be cheating. Just my opinion, yes it gives an edge, but everyone gets it, no edge.
Check out the bottom 8th inning of the padres jays game tonight. Martinez kept digging into his belt after every pitch and then was not checked coming off the field
You mention the "substance ban", but say they were cheating. That's contradictory. They weren't cheating. You were cheating if you did it after the ban. And Cole has been fine.
Chapman, Cole and all the rest definitely deserve all the money. Why? Because the teams knew they were using sticky substances and now that it is "not allowed", that's a change in the rules, which they have no control over. it's not their fault. Now teams have to suck it up and fans have to decide whether to support their team or not.
The Greatest thing about Cole is that the Yankees spent a fortune to get him to beat Houston in the Playoffs... all the while condemning ANYONE who played for Houston as "cheaters" .. truth is ... if they could pick up Altuve this year, they would and every yankee fan would love him! ... so... enjoy your investment while it lasts!!
Cole was dominant until September. He wore out. Cole made all of his starts, with a shortened spring training and just flat out ended up wearing out. With about a week break, Cole could be amazing in game 1, or awful
On Tuesday night Cole wasn't struggling with the hamstring injury the way he was in last year's WC game. In 2020 he was great in the postseason and so far this year he's 1-0 in he postseason. Chapman's contract is expiring, I couldn't care less.
I think it’s a little bit harsh to say Cole has gotten worse without sticky stuff because a good chunk of his Earned Runs are from homers, and that’s a issue with power pitchers at large. The argument for Chapman is definitely warranted, and I am not a Yankees fan
So you’re saying the Yankees got saddled with two contracts that have become albatrosses around their neck. They have nothing to show for it. This year Cole was pedestrian. He didn’t even win 15 games and gave up more homers than most MLB players hit in a year. Chapman was worse! Yankees couldn’t afford pitching him in must-win situations. He may not even be on the playoff roster. Probably shouldn’t be. Most Yankees fans don’t want him on the roster. Period. Cole is likely good for five innings. Then unravels. So sticky substance or not, what have they done for the Yankees? And more importantly what can they do for them this post-season? Yanks know they can’t trust them for nine.
He was an all star i think 2 timed and finished top 5 in Cy Young votes as well as getting some mvp votes too. He got better as he developed and went to a much better team. Cole was probably like a 120 ERA + guy
That’s not true lol with pirates he had 3.50 era and 3.27 fip that’s not mid lol he also had injuries so he really had 1 mid season with pirates and got more healthy since Astros and has consistently 200 innings
Sounds like a guy we have over here in Boston, by the name of Chris Sale. Oh and before him David Price..both came in and straight stole the T.V., laptop, and dishwasher.
This is a Yankees hit piece. Maybe a handful of pitchers didn’t use sticky substance. Glasnow needed tommy John surgery because of attempting to grip the ball harder. It effected the league in A negative way. Pinning the video like it was only Cole and Chapman being terrible is just as ridiculous as mlb and their terrible decisions.
As long as players can get rewarded with big, guaranteed contracts, cheating will continue. Any player caught using performance enhancing drugs or substances should have their contract nullified and reworked. Did the Padres just get hoodwinked by Tatis Jr.?
Cheating has been a big part of baseball since the game was invented. In 2022 season post substance ban and Tommy Johns surgery, Verlander pitched 171 era.
The MLB contracts being handed out to players are getting ridiculously HUGE for the quality and caliber of pitchers that are out there now! Cole is indeed a top quality pitcher but I do not think he deserves what he is getting paid!
I don’t even know if the sticky stuff broke Chapman. He seems just washed. His fastball is down 3 ticks and his slider just hangs to where it’s one of the worst pitches in baseball
Pitchers have never really been allowed to use sticky stuff of any kind since the spitball era they just all started getting caught in unison. Longtime fan here, trust me. It’s never been legal. That said, especially in April and May (colder months) even most batters agree pitchers should be allowed to get whatever kind of grip they can on the ball. I might have never played in the majors but try taking a 70mph pitch to the nips in 30 degree fall-ball weather. Wish that guy had some sticky stuff
I do want to add though there’s always exceptions to the rule. I think stretching back to the 80s using rosin and sunscreen together was/is a common tactic for better grip
Cole never won a title with Houston and he isn’t taking the Yankees to a title either . He is NOT with that money but he will always wear his Team Boras hat first above whatever team he is playing on !
You should make a video about the biggest cheater who DIDN’T get caught: Big POOPI! Why does he get heralded while getting a free pass again? Asking for a friend….
I think the moral of the story is they all used it. And everything evens out. Things finally will settle down and then there will be a new way to cheat..just ask the Astros..they were the last team to corner the market.
So I have touched a few of the MLB balls and compared them to say HS or College balls, and they are not exactly the best baseballs I have ever felt. I am not saying bring back stick stuff, but MLB needs to stop fucking with the baseball. If the ball doesn't have a way to actually get grip then they are fixing games, and can fix any game on demand by saying use these balls not those. With things like the AL/NL DC & CS and the WS they can alter the outcome of the game by the balls they have made for those games.
Power Pitchers like Cole typically give up a bunch of home runs. It's a hazard of their style. As for Chapman, I am curious if he has always used sticky stuff. He has been in the league a while and up till the league cracked down on it he has been great.
Hitters are constantly gaining advantages, and now the universal DH. Harder bats, juiced balls, pine tar for grip ect. MLB either needs to raise the mound, raise the seams on the ball and let pitchers use whatever thry want for grip. To call it cheating is just dumb...
I never thought much of Cole but when he unironically said "for Pete's sake" when talking about the sticky stuff, I knew I couldn't trust him haha
He showed that he was a whiney bitch that day. I could care less about him using the stuff but just be real about it.
It's true. I don't trust Pete either.
Oh for fuck's sake gov'na
I'm just amused by all the Cole haters who were ready to blow him when he beat the Yankees in game 3 the 2019 ALCS. 👀🤔🙃🖕😅😅😅👏👏👏👍😎
Yankees cheat
Using sticky substances doesnt really bother me since that stuff has always been in baseball, it was pitchers getting mad and throwing at players for celebrating hits and HR's when they are cheating. The hypocrisy is what made me upset at the cheating.
No that stuff has not always been in baseball. This stuff isn’t your grandfathers pine tar.
the "sticky stuff" that pitchers are using today isn't what has been usually used... these are substances that are used to glue cinderblocks together or help strongmen grip atlas stones. not pine tar or sunscreen and rosin. It completely unbalances the pitcher hitter dynamic since increased spin rate increase swing and miss. This was a massive issue, and right after the ban Offence increased and averages increased by i believe 50 points across baseball. The Sticky Stuff was a massive problem.
The prohibition in the rules is my only objection. If the union and MLB came up with one recipe to get a little grip on the ball and made it a rule, then great.
@@sococomfort22s34 its always been happening. Pine tar was really good
Baseball itself is lathered in hypocrisy. I used to be on the side of anti PED users in the hall. But over time, I've soured on baseballs self delusion. As if its the purest sport of the major 3. It's why I roll my eyes on folks who hate the Astros or Red Sox for the signs. All the while pitchers tried every chance to get an advantage.
Cole has to have every little thing go right for him in game or he unravels. He will be cruising along, then an unlucky base hit or something happens and then boom three run homer. Watching it happen is almost poetic lol.
My son is currently a d3 catcher right now. And we've both seen a lot of this over the years. He even became known as The Pitcher Whisperer after turning around several outings after just a short visit to the mound. some pitchers are real head cases. It must be a thing because my glove leather wallet has a saying printed inside of the bill area....."Shut up and pitch."
He's a cry baby. "Pressure is a privilege." Lol yea right. Pressure seems to be a nightmare for you, Gerrit.
@@BobSchmidt that’s awesome. Having a son playing a game at a high level and contributing to his team is something every dad wants.
@@BobSchmidt no one asked about your D3 kid
Yeah, big yankees fan here, whenever he pitches I cringe waiting for him to give up the hr at the worst moment.
The biggest shit about Cole is how once one thing goes wrong many things go wrong. It’s pathetic.
I remember that all too well with Jaime Garcia for the Cardinals. The guy had good stuff but one mistake would snowball into a meltdown.
I miss Correa and I miss springer. But shit I don’t miss cole😂 you said it best he’s a third or second pitcher type. And that’s who the Yankees have as their ace? Shit no wonder we swept them😂
More than half of the players in the HALL OF FAME used some kind of substances to pitch.
As a lifelong Yankee fan, mid 90's to present, I have to say this vid is on point. Cole and Chapman were heavily dependent on the sticky stuff and haven't been the same since the crackdown. It's indisputable at this point. They cheated. They can't anymore. And now they suck. Cole may turn out to be the biggest bust since Ellsbury, A-Rod, Pavano, you name it. Might be the worst ever, of any team.
When the Yankees resigned A-Rod after he opted out in 2007 then yes, definitely not a good investment. But if I remember correctly he still wasn't that bad in the field. And he played basically every day. The problem with pitchers is that they only pitch every 5 days. So in theory they get paid way more per game. And even in today's game, Cole's numbers do not justify 36 mill a year, at all. I would say that he is the biggest bust for the Yankee's in the current era.
Gerrit doesn’t even suck… he’s still great.
@@nc_vince3934 He is still a good pitcher, just not 36 million a year good.
@@nc_vince3934 Hes still good, but far from great....
I cant blame chapman he came from nothing and did whatever he could to provide for his family but no he should not have been using the tack
If we’re gonna talk about this form of cheating well then it really benefited your 2018 Red Sox considering that whole pitching staff was beyond fraudulent in 2018. It’s true. It ain’t just Cole
I don't think that's the point he was making. He isn't calling out the yankees and he states that cole is a good pitcher. Also if you actually watch the video, he calls out a sox pitcher.
@@aaronl4600 he just uses the yankees in the title to get views
@@ItsHuggies I just think he uses Cole as an example due to his inanely expensive contract. I don’t think he is staying that other teams and pitchers didn’t benefit as well.
This is exactly why I laugh at the clowns bitching about the astros all the time. EVERY TEAM CHEATS! Yankees got caught doing the same shit the astros did the year after they got caught yet no one said anything. In a competitive game where people are payed 100's of millions of dollars people will always find ways to cheat.
I mean he included a Red Sox pitcher and its pretty clear their starting pitching is bad. But they also won 3 titles otherwise in this century. Only those Giants can say that. Yankees have lowkey never been the same since 2004. A shell of a dynasty and there's zero reason to believe they do anything with this iteration of their team. No heart.
Prime Chapman was something different!
Framber Valdez led the AL in IP with 201.1 innings this year, not Gerrit Cole. Good video regardless!
I would love a deep dive collab into foreign substances between you and Baseball Doesn't Exist. The ultimate video essay on modern baseball pitching tactics and strategy.
cole has still been good just unlucky.
he walks almost no one strikes out a bunch of batters gets tons of whiffs and chases as well. the only thing that has changed is his home run rate has sky rocketed
Gerrit Cole's American League Ranks: T-9 in Wins
5th in WHIP
7th in H/9
10th in BB/9
2nd in K/9
1st in IP 1st in Ks
5th in K/BB
30th in era
T-5 in Quality Starts.
a pitcher with those numbers shouldn't have that high of an era his luck will balance out
This video is stupid and ridiculous. He didn't add the 2018 Red Sox team, who was cheating, which isn't surprising cause he's a Red Sox fan
@@JM-jx7bd The Red Sox didn’t cheat in the playoffs but lost a draft pick and Cora for a year, the Yankees didn’t even get a slap on the hand
The Yankees were in court to keep the evidence of their cheating from being exposed! This cheating scandal was said to be massive, the largest in baseball history! However, the Yankees and MLB were able to coerce the court from releasing the evidence of the Yankees’ cheating from being released to the public thanks to the power that the the Yankees and MLB have on the justice system and the politicians. Throughout their history the Yankees were able to keep their crimes from being exposed thanks to the influence that they have being that they are baseball’s most powerful organization, a power that includes their ability to get favorable calls from umpires that call strikes and balls! With the ability of the Yankees to cheat with impunity one has to wonder how many of the Yankees’ 27 World Series titles were “won” by shady means! What is the extent of the Yankees’ crimes in order for them to game the system so that they could secure all of those World Series titles? Many baseball fans that have kept up with the sport believe the Yankees are the most corrupt organization in all of sports and that’s why the Yankees are able to “win” all of those titles that are estimated to be 25% of all World Series titles!
I have heard that a pitcher reaches their prime at 33 (still having some gas , and alot of experience) rather than early 20s with just gas and late 30s with just experience. If Gerrit Cole can't get it together by the time he turns 33, that will suck !
Nolan Ryan.... Stop reading so much internet trash. Its like that now because pitchers are coming up throwing harder than the avg and throwing breaking pitches at younger ages causing them to need Tommy Johns by 25. There were plenty of older pitchers that killed the game. Curt Schilling, Randy Johnson, Roget Clemens etc.......
@@dirtyharry2029 wow you're severely troubled sir 🤣. Tell me I'm wrong and then end up agreeing with me. Good day man
Somewhere right now is Trevor Bauer with an eyepatch and maniacally chuckling while holding an iguana.
As an Astros fan I have to admit watching Cole go downhill after the ban has been a little enjoyable. Its got nothing to do with the Yankees, I would feel this way no matter what other team he played for, but on his way out he made a lot of remarks about the Astros and basically said F Houston, the Astros and the fans. Karma sure is a funny thing.
Good enough to break the all time Yankees strikeout record in a single season this year...A franchise that's been around forever!
Is it good enough for 35 million a year for the next 6 years?
That record is nothing to brag about.. He had 276 and 326 SO in 2018 and 2019 with Houston.
@@JR-te1zw big difference between pitching in the AL West and the AL East
@@jc24445 if he he keeps putting up those numbers then answer is obvious.
@@Mscherel0805 those numbers aren’t worth his contract, especially leading the AL in homers given up. He’s overpaid.
Tbh Coles supply from the coach in Anaheim is the reason he was god tier.
Thanks for the video, pitchers are going to cry me a river because they aren’t allowed to cheat.
Now everyone gets to see what they are really worth.
Post cortes, sevy, holmes, jamo, german, peralta, luetge, schmidt, marinaccio and probably more that have improved since sticky stuff ban
Whenever I've watched Cole this year I've never noticed a dominant start or a wow factor to his game. Always felt like something was missing, not to say he didn't have any amazing starts. But the majority just felt like solid average starts.
he broke the yankee strikeout record 😂
It warmed my heart to see Scherzer be able to keep up his dominance. My favorite pitcher other than Kershaw. Man is a dawg.
Oh boy, do I have some highlights from yesterday's game for you...
@@juanalexandergorjio5245 "cole is such a loser for being intense" "oh scherzer? he is just a gritty guy that gets locked in" the double standards is fucking insane. Scherzer's start in a MUST WIN PLAYOFF GAME was far worse than any single Cole start that he has ever had
@@juanalexandergorjio5245 Just going to say that. He was benefiting from the weak NL east the last few years.
Other teams not named the Astros actually cheat? Wow...I thought no one ever cheated in baseball based on all the pearl clutching other ( hypocritical) fans did 😂
Stealing signs was way worse the sticky stuff. Not to mention the astros did both
@@tim8801 no it's not moron cheating is cheating o wish you haters would come up with some different material
@@tim8801 Are either of those worse than steroids? Lol stfu
@@almightykekon5465 just as bad as roids but everyone did roids anyway Back then astros were unique to cheating at this level
Pitchers since the beginning of Baseball has been doing that, that's nothing new.
Former Yankees fan here. When we got Cole from Houston, I was so elated. But he's like a different player now. In Houston he seemed like a man of few words who just got the job done, dignified. Now, he seems so fragile, so easily damaged, and whines when things don't go his way. When he couldn't take that joke from Gardy, it was evidence how paper thin his self-confidence is.
Former Yankee fan? You’re a loser dude
What joke?
@@anonymouscommenter7689 google it...
That's probably because of the NY media pressure.
@@endlessnameless3996 Yah, all that attention and all that money definitely has something to do with it, I assume.
Yogi Berra used a metal file to sharpen the edge on one of the buckles on his right shin guard. When he would get his hands on a new ball he would drag it across the sharp buckle edge.
A million dollars a game is absolutely ridiculous in my eyes
"A rosin bag is a small canvas bag filled with rosin powder (a sticky substance extracted from the sap of fir trees) used by pitchers to improve their grip on the baseball and keep their hands dry. The rules specifically allow the rosin bag to be kept on the field of play."
So, that's not enough for these pitchers? Here's my solution: pitchers can use the spider tack crap, but the mound has to be backed up a few feet to be in the geometric center of the diamond. And the mound can even be raised a few inches back to where it was before it was lowered in the 1960s. The reaction time for the hitters will be increased, which will help them be more competitive against some of these ridiculous pitches they have to deal with.
iTalkStudios is so underrated and makes quality content
He’s a yankee hater lol 😂
Not saying everything in this video Ian true but it’s so obvious the caters to the national league side of baseball or at the very least, just seems to hate the Al EAST
@@StrawhatDawn he's a red sox fan, he's said it a few times
it kinda seems that he just copied the bde video tbh
My only complaint about his content is that it's always just common knowledge or baseball news that everybody has already talked about. I've never learned anything new from his content. That's my only knock on it.
Spider tac is WAY more of an advantage than steroids ......not sure why these pitchers dont get the same SHAME that guys like Bonds will ALWAYS get.....
It’s also dangerous af and caused batter to get hit
@@nicksatwr4538 exactly
Yankees giving a big contract and regreting it has been the theme for the team for 20 years. Imagine a salary cap and the Yankees actually having to develop players versus poaching the rest of the MLB teams.
That's why they've never beaten the Astros in a post-season series - AND NEVER WILL ha ha ha
I watch all of Coles starts. His problem is pitch selection. 0-2 1-2 fastballs down the middle that get crushed.
It happens nearly every start.
As a yankee fan, I couldn’t agree more. Not sure how this isn’t considered fraud.
probably because the team knew he was doing it and paid him anyways because his stuff was better than everyone else's stuff.
Cant call it fraud if everyone involved is in on it.
everyone was doing it popa
And where is the punishment where is the outrage unless its the Astros I guess it's just no big deal!
That clip of Cole being asked about spider tack is always so hard to watch
Fitting coming from a Suck Sox fan. Have fun finishing in last place in the division for the next few years.
As a Pirates Die-Hard. I watched Cole go through his tenure with a horrible attitude. Bitching and moaning at Searage and Hurdle about his outing while the Bucs had the lead. Not a team player. To me, that’s worse than any sticky substance.
I will forever love that the Yankees live rent free in so many peoples heads
its beautiful. he specifically chose the yankees when its a league wide thing and there are pitchers out there that were found guilty.
Cole led the MLB in strike outs and broke the all-time Yankees single season strike out record. He's doing fine lol
Amen
Don't blame the Cole cheating on the Astros... Cuz if not JV would be having the same problem as Gerrit... but we have all seen what JV has done ..
the astros brought the substances to the league and made it mainstream. Know your baseball history. Do you not remember during their cheating run every pitcher that came over magically went up in spinrate and had career years? Come on brother you gotta pay attention to these things.
@@isaactejada2757 so the Astros brought the substance to the league and that's what was also told about them 😂😂😂... Bro don't talk about knowing your league or baseball when there is no proof about it ... Besides Cole using it after being in the yankees ... If that's "true" how you say... Why is JV still good...
@@joemontano4275 you do know cole was never great till he went to the Astros. Jv was falling apart till he went to the Astros and nearly every pitcher they signed ended up having spikes in spin rate. It’s a known fact that the Astros made that stat popular while playing with different substances during their cheating eras between 2016-2020. Pitching stuff goes way before that too. If you don’t know the league and don’t realize why they started keeping tract of that stat in the league and can’t see the correlation between why during that time only the Astros knew how teach spikes in spin rates. You just don’t know how to see the obvious
Even though the Yankees got Torres for a rental in Chapman, don’t forget the Cubs broke a century long drought because of him. They had no bullpen in 2016 till Chappy.
What is funny is that The Astro’s had a pitcher that was pissed off for not pitching in the postseason, and then being cut the next year after giving up 30+ homerun’s, and not even being as close to as good as Cole is, rat out the entire franchise for cheating, then never pitching against them again. I believe cheating is rampant in MLB, but now no one wants their career to end up like Fier’s, so we have to look at sample sizes now. Those pitcher’s were probably cheating as well due to their crazy spin rates back then as well.
Every team is out here cheating ESPECIALLY the Yankees 😂
Mike fiers was a certified cheater. He got busted in 2017 for PEDs and he’s not afraid to show people he uses foreign substances
The Yankees were in court to keep the evidence of their cheating from being exposed! This cheating scandal was said to be massive, the largest in baseball history! However, the Yankees and MLB were able to coerce the court from releasing the evidence of the Yankees’ cheating from being released to the public thanks to the power that the the Yankees and MLB have on the justice system and the politicians. Throughout their history the Yankees were able to keep their crimes from being exposed thanks to the influence that they have being that they are baseball’s most powerful organization, a power that includes their ability to get favorable calls from umpires that call strikes and balls! With the ability of the Yankees to cheat with impunity one has to wonder how many of the Yankees’ 27 World Series titles were “won” by shady means! What is the extent of the Yankees’ crimes in order for them to game the system so that they could secure all of those World Series titles? Many baseball fans that have kept up with the sport believe the Yankees are the most corrupt organization in all of sports and that’s why the Yankees are able to “win” all of those titles that are estimated to be 25% of all World Series titles!
In fairness to these guys, with launch angle and questions about a juiced ball, homers have gone off the chart. The substances were the pitchers' way to even things up
But you can use sticky stuff again. The umpires stopped checking intensely to see if a pitcher is using it.
Pitchers getting huge paydays as a result of cheating pisses me off like little else
Let's discuss Boston's playoff game....oh wait.
Raa Raa…shhhhhh, this off-season Bloom will gut the team further with trades, in order to acquire 1 wild card appearance :) :P
Sounds like you’re still salty about the Sox spanking the Yankees in 18 and 21. I’ll enjoy the Yankees first round exit
@@PaulieWalnuts1776 lol think Cleveland or tampon bay can handle the Yankees lol. Astros are the real challenge
Cole has been called a cheater for years by a specific ex teammate pitcher for years...
I think his first name starts with a T, can’t put my finger on it….
Bro you are the most underrated mlb UA-cam channel outthere
I really appreciate that, Domenic! Thank you for your support, it means everything
7:49 scorers literally gave him 7 extra earned runs thanks to IKF errors that were called base hits for some reason
Stop with that bullshit he gives up homers nothing to do with infielders
@@celticslore2106 ye but a homer is 1 run with IKF that became way more
Another awesome video. Despite all this craziness, I still love this game.
Thank you!! And same haha
It's his whinny voice that gets me
I'm a huge Yankees fan and these 2 guys are a freaking embarrassment. Nestor is our ace.
Definitely 💯
I’m a huge Yankees fan to but That is not true except maybe Chapman
You're delusional if you think they were the only ones using it. Most pitchers in baseball were. Tyler Glasnow blew his elbow right after they started checking for substances. The league average spin rate dropped like crazy. The video is just trying to bait for views, and talking about the Yankees is just the perfect way to do it. Cole is the best pitcher the Yankees have had in over a decade and Chapman is a borderline hall of famer past his prime, you're crazy if you think they're an "embarrassment".
@@wilberts.cubero3629 🤣🤣🤣
Your mother and I are disappointed that you're still gluing your pubic hair to your face after we EXPLICITLY TOLD YOU to stop.
Also, stop arguing with nutcrackers. It's weird, man.
Ever noticed that the Kermit voice comes out more in Cole when he’s whining about something?
😂😂😂😂
Mets use spider tack as well if the Mets win the World Series then there’s an astriek
Cole just THIS WEEK broke the single season strikeout record for a yankee pitcher, it just got overshadowed by Judge. Hes given up way to many hrs this season but his stikeouts are absolutely filthy, Chapman might be fair here but very harsh on Cole
35 million a year is exactly why we are harsh on Cole. Great 2-3 if the team had a mediocre infield defensively.
@@jc24445 Cole is still the same pitcher. The thing that is keeping his ERA much higher is the home runs. He's in second with the most given up home runs. Most of the home runs given up are to mediocre batters which is really stupid
@@jc24445 it is fair to be harsh on him to some degree for the amount of homers he gives up. But suggesting he has less control now cuz of sticky stuff when his strikeout count is breaking records just seems silly. It takes a lot more accurate and controlled pitches to strike out a high number of batters than to give up 1-2 homers off 1-2 missed spots
@@anthonyvelez7130 if he was the same pitcher he wouldn’t be giving up all those homers
@@Dr.Krankenstein "The thing that is keeping his ERA higher is the home runs." Literally the words I just said. Eliminate atleast some of those homers like the ones he gave up to the Mariners in the first inning and he will have a much lower ERA.
Cole is a extremely good pitcher, just not $36M/yr good. He'd still be the Ace on a majority of MLB teams. Just like in the steroid era the illegal substances made good players great and great players unbelievable-players still had to be extremely talented . It wasn't making career benchwarmers into hall of famers.
He is a slightly above average pitcher. After his sticky stuff was taken away, he stopped being even good. Let alone extremely good. He bad one great season. And has basically regressed to league average after sticky stuff was cracked down on.
I agree
@@TheBlackWaltz 257 strikeouts is not an average pitcher...lol, so dumb.
@@GSP-76 strike outs don't mean shit if your era is only 11% lower than average. His fip is basically identical to his era. His job is to stop runs, not to strike people out.
@@TheBlackWaltz sounds like a little league spectator comment, sure thing genius.
Just make it legal. We already have a ton of equipment to aid in comfort and performance, and of course safety. We already allow resin bags, which is a grip aid, why not let them just go full sticky, level the playing field, instead of a few finding a way to still sneak it in, or people assuming they might be cheating.
Just my opinion, yes it gives an edge, but everyone gets it, no edge.
Cole needs his spider tack or he’s just slightly above average, which is good, but not worth $36 million.
Check out the bottom 8th inning of the padres jays game tonight. Martinez kept digging into his belt after every pitch and then was not checked coming off the field
You mention the "substance ban", but say they were cheating. That's contradictory. They weren't cheating. You were cheating if you did it after the ban. And Cole has been fine.
Don't even bother. Dude is just gonna continue to churn out awful videos
Cole just set Yankees SO record. Keep hating
When are you going to do a vid on MLB letter to the stankees. Which detailed the cheating and sign stealing via bull pen phone and yes net work???
They didnt actually put an end to sticky stuff. Spin rates have creeped back up close to where they were
Chapman, Cole and all the rest definitely deserve all the money. Why? Because the teams knew they were using sticky substances and now that it is "not allowed", that's a change in the rules, which they have no control over. it's not their fault. Now teams have to suck it up and fans have to decide whether to support their team or not.
The Greatest thing about Cole is that the Yankees spent a fortune to get him to beat Houston in the Playoffs...
all the while condemning ANYONE who played for Houston as "cheaters" ..
truth is ... if they could pick up Altuve this year, they would and every yankee fan would love him! ...
so... enjoy your investment while it lasts!!
Cole was dominant until September. He wore out. Cole made all of his starts, with a shortened spring training and just flat out ended up wearing out. With about a week break, Cole could be amazing in game 1, or awful
He was amazing 🙏
@@johndamario2546 Still not as before, cheats!
On Tuesday night Cole wasn't struggling with the hamstring injury the way he was in last year's WC game. In 2020 he was great in the postseason and so far this year he's 1-0 in he postseason. Chapman's contract is expiring, I couldn't care less.
I think it’s a little bit harsh to say Cole has gotten worse without sticky stuff because a good chunk of his Earned Runs are from homers, and that’s a issue with power pitchers at large. The argument for Chapman is definitely warranted, and I am not a Yankees fan
Weird how everything changed equals yankees winning the division pretty easily and boston finishing in last place
So you’re saying the Yankees got saddled with two contracts that have become albatrosses around their neck. They have nothing to show for it. This year Cole was pedestrian. He didn’t even win 15 games and gave up more homers than most MLB players hit in a year. Chapman was worse! Yankees couldn’t afford pitching him in must-win situations. He may not even be on the playoff roster. Probably shouldn’t be. Most Yankees fans don’t want him on the roster. Period. Cole is likely good for five innings. Then unravels. So sticky substance or not, what have they done for the Yankees? And more importantly what can they do for them this post-season? Yanks know they can’t trust them for nine.
Since when has any foreign substance been allowed on the ball. I guess I've been living in a cave somewhere off the grid.
Cole was mid until the stros and just robbed the Yankees
exactly
he was an allstar and cy young candidate in pittsburgh but ok
He was an all star i think 2 timed and finished top 5 in Cy Young votes as well as getting some mvp votes too. He got better as he developed and went to a much better team. Cole was probably like a 120 ERA + guy
That’s not true lol with pirates he had 3.50 era and 3.27 fip that’s not mid lol he also had injuries so he really had 1 mid season with pirates and got more healthy since Astros and has consistently 200 innings
Sounds like a guy we have over here in Boston, by the name of Chris Sale. Oh and before him David Price..both came in and straight stole the T.V., laptop, and dishwasher.
Chapman might have been the most intimidating, but not the best reliever.
I mean, he holds up a fire arm to his spouse so who knows what he'd do to an opposing batter.
This ain't the story. Look at those back muscles on judge! He JUICED his ass straight to the top!
The thing is it still seems like many pitchers are using stuff. It's like the umps went back to not caring.
Unless cole does good in the playoffs (6 innings, 7 so, and 3 er)
So I guess the question is, how long has this been going on and do they really deserve to be in the play offs
How did Chapman cheat? His velocity went down a lot and he depended on that to dominate. It's not rocket science.
This is a Yankees hit piece. Maybe a handful of pitchers didn’t use sticky substance. Glasnow needed tommy John surgery because of attempting to grip the ball harder. It effected the league in A negative way. Pinning the video like it was only Cole and Chapman being terrible is just as ridiculous as mlb and their terrible decisions.
As long as players can get rewarded with big, guaranteed contracts, cheating will continue. Any player caught using performance enhancing drugs or substances should have their contract nullified and reworked. Did the Padres just get hoodwinked by Tatis Jr.?
For cole the hrs are killing him and chap man it’s the control
I love how cole look like he was going to cry and begging mlb to change the ruling
he from california
@@chriswillis1585 ok
Big Yankees fan. Cole has been disappointing this year, no sticky stuff, gives up the home run too much, way too much.
Cheating has been a big part of baseball since the game was invented. In 2022 season post substance ban and Tommy Johns surgery, Verlander pitched 171 era.
The MLB contracts being handed out to players are getting ridiculously HUGE for the quality and caliber of pitchers that are out there now! Cole is indeed a top quality pitcher but I do not think he deserves what he is getting paid!
Chapman is old and Cole set the Yankee single season strikeout record this year.
I don’t even know if the sticky stuff broke Chapman. He seems just washed. His fastball is down 3 ticks and his slider just hangs to where it’s one of the worst pitches in baseball
Pitchers have never really been allowed to use sticky stuff of any kind since the spitball era they just all started getting caught in unison. Longtime fan here, trust me. It’s never been legal.
That said, especially in April and May (colder months) even most batters agree pitchers should be allowed to get whatever kind of grip they can on the ball.
I might have never played in the majors but try taking a 70mph pitch to the nips in 30 degree fall-ball weather. Wish that guy had some sticky stuff
I do want to add though there’s always exceptions to the rule. I think stretching back to the 80s using rosin and sunscreen together was/is a common tactic for better grip
My hands naturally sweat so I can grip a baseball😂
I think pine tar and a sunscreen+rosin combo is fine. Spider tack not so much
Cole never won a title with Houston and he isn’t taking the Yankees to a title either . He is NOT with that money but he will always wear his Team Boras hat first above whatever team he is playing on !
your YT is so underated thanks so much for ur vids
The Nats beat Cole like a drum in the 2019 World Series, Verlander too.
"can't grip the ball"
"Blah blah nonsense"
They, act like they just learned how to throw a baseball the day before that. Can't grip the ball my azz 🙄
You should make a video about the biggest cheater who DIDN’T get caught: Big POOPI! Why does he get heralded while getting a free pass again? Asking for a friend….
He’s as harmless as a manatee drinking a pina colada
I think the moral of the story is they all used it. And everything evens out. Things finally will settle down and then there will be a new way to cheat..just ask the Astros..they were the last team to corner the market.
So I have touched a few of the MLB balls and compared them to say HS or College balls, and they are not exactly the best baseballs I have ever felt. I am not saying bring back stick stuff, but MLB needs to stop fucking with the baseball. If the ball doesn't have a way to actually get grip then they are fixing games, and can fix any game on demand by saying use these balls not those. With things like the AL/NL DC & CS and the WS they can alter the outcome of the game by the balls they have made for those games.
Power Pitchers like Cole typically give up a bunch of home runs. It's a hazard of their style. As for Chapman, I am curious if he has always used sticky stuff. He has been in the league a while and up till the league cracked down on it he has been great.
I highly doubt it goes he has always been known to throw wild.
@@bigrich6075 Who, Chapman?
@@christopherjamesboudoir yes
@@bigrich6075 Did not know that. Kind of a moot point tho since he is getting hit hard now.
Hitters are constantly gaining advantages, and now the universal DH. Harder bats, juiced balls, pine tar for grip ect. MLB either needs to raise the mound, raise the seams on the ball and let pitchers use whatever thry want for grip. To call it cheating is just dumb...
Remember how the crackdown came about. Mike Shildt did not want Genisys Cabrera's cap thrown out of the game.
So they went from pine tar to spider tack to nothing.
Not a Yankee fan
Nestor Cortez probably their true ace and would much likely deserve coles contract