In my view Hell Bent is the last of a three parter; Face the Raven, Heaven Sent, Hell Bent, it's a classic three part narrative. Similar to Utopia, Sound of Drums and Last of the Timelords.
I think Hell Bent as one story because all three episodes would imo have to be written by the same person and series 9 has loose two parters and true two parters.
Agreed. I consider Utopia, Turn Left, Face the Raven, and World Enough and Time, all the first of three-parters. Each episode is it’s own story, but much more so part of a bigger narrative, but more closed off than entire season arcs.
can someone explain to me why World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls is so beloved? for me it was a Heaven Sent/Hell Bent situation all over again where the premise and set up and execution of the first part was perfect, literally amazing and perfect, but the second half was just a bunch of messing about and nonsense that doesn't pay anything off. I was so painfully disappointed by The Doctor Falls and I don't get the hype behind it.
The best series finale is obviously Series 5 - pretty flawless! It's the kind of story that's so crazy it just shouldn't work (especially after that cliffhanger), and yet Moffat knocks it out of the park Then Series 1. People always call it the end of the Bad Wolf storyline though - it's not about that. This is The 9th Doctor finding himself in basically the same situation he was in during The Time War, and completing his character arc by choosing a different outcome; The 9th Doctor in episode 6 wouldnt've done that but, with help from Rose, he is now a changed man - and then he LITERALLY becomes a changed man. It's poetry! That series was so well thought out and the finale ties EVERYTHING together, not just the Bad Wolf thing And then sure, Series 10's was great too...
I adore S6 and the S6 finale lol. I really don't understand why it's so low for people. I must be blinded by my love for River haha. Anything involving her is right at the top. I think S6 is so high for me due to River's speech to the Doctor, "I can't let you die, without knowing you are loved. By so many and so much... and by no one more than me." Idk, just that one sentiment, especially with all the Doc's self-loathing, "I can't let you die without knowing you are loved" oof, gut punch.
For me the angel take Manhattan could have been a great episode but the simple fact that the statue of liberty his a weeping angel in this episode but that episode really low
I'm the complete oposite with Hell Bent. I have tried but I simpley just don't like the begginng scenes for various reasons, but I find myself enjoying the episode a lot more when Clara comes back to to the chemistry between her and 12. There are things I don't like after that point though, such as the constant cutbacks to the diner which completely ruin the pacing for me.
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I love Heaven Sent, my favourite Capaldi episode, and it annoys me that its associated with the God awful Hell Bent. Heaven Sent was the perfect way to end Series 9, and have a completely different story take place on Gallifrey for a Christmas special. But no, Moffatt couldn't leave it there and had to completely undo everything and make the Doctors imprisonment in his confession dial completely pointless
I agree with most of the placements, but I would move Name of the Doctor to middling and A Good Man Goes to War a tier up. Heaven Sent should’ve been included just because it is the greatest episode of all time.
I don’t hate the timeless child messed with the regeneration count I hate how the doctor was the reason behind everything to do with timelords, regeneration, and the stories that deal with regenerations. It ruined Matt Smiths last story and the 12th doctors hybrid being himself. I’m just hoping the master was the reason behind it and putting false memories into the doctors head.
The Doctor isn't really behind everything, Tecteun is. The Doctor seems to constantly be a child through the Regeneration experiments, and it's just something that happens to them. Yes they are 'more important' but not because of anything they did, or fate, or anything that makes them particularly 'extraordinary'.
I think you saying that people don't like Timeless Children because it messes up the incarnation numbering does a huge disservice to the *actual* reasons people hate it. It's obviously not something petty like it messing up some numbers.
Viewer age/introduction plays a role in it. I started when the show was rebooted so the top 2 are flipped, but mostly the same for this except maybe 2 other episodes.
pretty good ranking, I agree with most of the points although I would put series 3 down to middling, as I wasn't the biggest fan of it. everything else is pretty spot on tho.
I agree with most everything aside from TTC being so high, even aside from the terrible twist it's still an atrocious finale and it is 100x worse than season 7As, 8s, 9s and 6s finales
heaven sent, theee best episode of all, so if you had called it a two parter with hell bent would have aced the table i think jodie did a fantastic job with the material given. i think the timeless child will keep the doctor on the screen for many more decades, with no more wierd life granting
Personally I think RTD broke the numbering. He had the Doctor regenerate in Series 4 with no consequence at all to it. So either someone was going to count that as a regeneration or come up with some contrived explanation for why the Master, who sought more lives, didn't just do that if it's a loophole around the thirteen life limit. Plus it makes Ten more sympathetic in TEOT if he's on his penultimate life. 1/9/10 4/5/8 3/7(A+B) 2/6(A+B) 11/13 12
13: The Timeless Children 12: The Vanquishers 11: The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos 10: The Wedding of River Song 9: The Last of the Time Lords 8: Death in Heaven 7: The Big Bang 6: The Name of the Doctor 5: The Doctor Falls 4: Hell Bent 3: Journey’s End 2: Parting of the Ways 1: Doomsday
The Vanquishers didn't even finalise it's plot. It was left with two big plot threads that just weren't pick back up. What the fuck was Time? Why was that never once brought up in the Power of the Doctor?
The Timeless Child plot-line is seemingly a continuation of the founding fathers plotline (sometimes known as the Cartmel Masterplan) from the 1980s, which was intended to bring back the mystery of the Doctor that was arguably lost in "The War Games" when they made him a Time-Lord. Chris Chibnall has stated that he wanted to dispel what he calls the sense that there was a "locked-in, fixed myth" for Doctor Who. This is why the fob watch has been left in the Tardis for now, so the show has effectively been reset to the status quo of the 1960s, when the Doctor's origins were up in the air. Time is a character from the 1990s novels. It is the sentient, cosmic embodiment of the force of time and, in the books, is one of the Eternals, a species first seen in "Enlightenment" They were recently referenced in "Can you Hear Me?". tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Cartmel_Masterplan tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Time_(mythology) tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Time
How to you make vanquishers the most current season finale you seem to have forgotten Jodi Whittakers last run of episodes ending with her finale the power of the doctor. Not that it should rate very high
I think that's nit picking man because technically S7 angles take Manhattan is only a mid season finale and not a full season finale.and if you included it because it's Amy's finale ep then you should definitely include 13s finale ep. With sayin that you should include 10s finale ep. I only say as a doctor who fan but in a finals rating video I think the doctors final ep should be counted
I dislike _The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos_ so much that I count _Resolution_ as the finale of that season (in my own personal head canon). It feels much more like a finale.
My Finale Ranking, awesome video as always ❤ 13.) Timeless Children S12 12.) Vanquishers S13 11.) Hell Bent S9 10.) Husband of River Song S6 9.) Battle of Ranskor Av Kolos S11 8.) Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Timelords S3 7.) Death In heaven/Dark Water S8 6.) Name of the Doctor S7 5.) Pandorica Opens/Big Bang S5 4.) Bad Wolf/Parting Of the Ways S1 3.) Army Of Ghosts/Doomsday S2 2.) Stolen Earth/Journeys End S4 1.) World enough and time/Doctor Falls S10
Not as big a fan of RTD finales as you are. Series One was awesome. His other three seasons are not so great to me. Some worse than others. Really didn't like Series Two. I like the end of Series Twelve a lot too!
My ranking finale new who is 13th The wedding of river song 12th hell bent 11th the battle of ranskoor av kolos 10th dark water and death in heaven 9th the stolen earth and journey’s end 8th the vanquishers 7th The sound of drums and the last of the time, lords 6th the timeless children 5th the pandorica opens and the big bang 4th the name of the doctor 3th Army of ghosts and doomsday 2th world enough and time and the doctor falls 1th bad wolf and the parting of the ways
My favorite finales are series 1, 4, and 10. These three stand out the most in my mind for their performances, plot, and concepts. As a fan of the daleks and Davros, the series 1 and 4 finales were really great. I've always been a fan of the original cybermen, so to see a story that brought back the Mondasian versions was great and scary. As for Series 8 and 7, they were great and enjoyable, but not as much as the other three. The same thing can be said about series 5's finale. As for series 3 and 2, while fun to watch and enjoy, I'm not a fan of the 10 and Rose romance story, and of course, the whole space Jesus part in "Last of the Time Lords". Series 9, while having some really great parts like the first half and the Doctor stepping back into the TARDIS and getting his new Sonic, was not that great. Series 6 was very forgettable for me, there were some great moments, but nothing groundbreaking. As for series 11, 12, and 13, I have very mixxed feelings about. I'm the kind of person who enjoys the experience of watching any show or movie, even if it's bad, so the thought of it being bad most of the time won't click until a second viewing. Series 11, and 13's finales were very boring and/or convoluted. As for "the Timeless Children", this is the first Doctor Who episode that actually got me angry. As someone who grew up with the show, I just felt that the Doctor being the Timeless Child makes no sense given the established lore for over the past 50 (I'm going off of when the episode aired) years. I just think it's disrespectful and undermining the Doctor as a character and what their story had been..
The Timeless Child plot-line acts as a continuation of the founding fathers plotline (sometimes known as the Cartmel Masterplan) from the 1980s, which was intended to bring back the mystery of the Doctor that was arguably lost in "The War Games" when they made him a Time-Lord. Chris Chibnal has stated that he wanted to dispel what he calls the sense that there was a "locked-in, fixed myth" for Doctor Who. This is why the fob watch has been left in the Tardis for now, so the show has effectively been reset to the status quo of the 1960s, when the Doctor's origins were up in the air.
Pretty much agree with the whole list aside from The Stolen Earth/Journey's End would be at the top with Capaldis's last finale, and the Timeless Children. Would be right at the bottom.
My personal thoughts on my worst and best Best: Series 10 2 parter. Just wow. An excellent companion exit, a phenomenal multi master concept, the cybermen regain a fair amount of their original horror elements, Capaldi is at his best in my opinion (I love grouchy Capaldi, but damn he sells all the emotion, that speech about doing what is right, him helping a small group of humans regardless of if it's just delaying the inevitable, I just love him here) I don't shut up about this episode it's just great. The concept of time moving differently for the different groups of the main cast is genius and using that to show the cybermen upgrade themselves over years while its only been hours for the survivors is so cool. The master's betrayal of not only the doctor but missy too, a full self sabotage out of spite for the doctor. He can't stand the idea of giving up his malice that he commits suicide the long way round because he hasn't experienced her growth and doesn't believe he ever will, while she lays dying in the dirt wondering if she actually could redeem herself, or if he was right. The questions this finale poses for the master's potential in the future of RTD2 are mind boggling, will a master redemption story ever be retried or can they actually never be redeemed. Was the master right or was missy? We'll have to see if they pick that back up in later series. It's the perfect balance in the main timelords. 12 is reitious and kind, missy is evil with a real compassionate heart burried under centuries of conflict with the doctor, and the master just being fully consumed and amused by his own evil. It's just a joy to watch, I have absolutely no issues besides the teasing lead into the underwhelming Christmas special, because if this was Capaldi's swan song this would possibly be the best Doctor exit of all of Doctor Who, not just the best finale. Worst: tied between series 11 and 12. 11 is like you said bland. It's just a below average Doctor Who episode that's lazy on all fronts, evident as it was literally a first draft. And 12 is just painful. Canon breaking aside, it borders on disrespectful to the long term audience as well as the short term. It offers up explainations of the doctor's origin that in the grand scheme of things are totally irrelevant and inherently damage their entire history with Galifrey and their whimsical nature. It makes it to where the doctor isn't special because they broke free of Galifreyan society and did good throughout the universe, but instead were special by birthright and created the timelords making the doctor the most important being in all of creation simply for existing, which again negates the whole point of the doctor being some nobody from their homeworld that BECAME important. And remove all implications of the timeless child aspects, which is the entire point of the story, absolutely nothing happens. It's a bland destruction of thw cybermen which is undone mere episodes later. No lasting impact from a story that promised earth shattering revelations, no short term impact as all its creative choices have since been either dismissed or outright ruined, and they destroyed Galifrey over this terrible idea that they've already forgotten about. So many story opportunities gone by the wayside over something that practically doesn't exist anymore. It's a boring episode with an even worse base concept. But it's still tied with the series 11 finale because allowing a first draft of any episode of television (unless it's an immediate masterpiece first try) is absolutely absurd, especially when the episode count was cut from 12 to 10, there's no good excuses to film a first draft when you can't even develop a single main character beyond the surface level apart from ONE episode. Less episodes to worry about yet less work was put into every single one. Those two finales are gonna be hard to beat for worst, unless RTD gets hammered in the writing room and just has a random side character narrating softcore doctor who smut or something stupid. It's going to be a tough challenge to write a worse finale than those ones and I pose that challenge to any writer that wants to take it lol
18. The End of Time 17. The Wedding Of River Song 16. Legend Of the Sea Devils 15. The Timeless Children 14. Hell Bent 13. The Battle Of Ranskoor Av Kolos 12. The Last Of The Time Lords 11. The Vanquishers 10. The Angels Take Manhattan 9. The Big Bang 8. Death In Heaven 7. Name Of The Doctor 6. Time Of The Doctor 5. The Doctor Falls 4. A Good Man Goes To War 3. The Parting Of The Ways 2. Doomsday 1. Journey's End
I reckon the Series 4 finale was overrated - there was too many cast members, too much going on, and generally too loud and bombastic. Series 5 however, is an underrated. Really enjoyed the pared back nature. Totally agree Moffat knocked it out of the park with the Series 10 finale - amazing stuff. Also agree that the Series 11 finale was incredibly dull. Nearly five years later, and I can't remember a single thing about it... except that it was dull.
My Ranking: 15. The Army of Ghosts/ Doomsday 6/10 14. The Giggle 6/10 13. Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways 7/10 12. The Legend of Ruby Sunday/ Empire of Death 8/10 11. The Stolen Earth/ Journey's End 8/10 10. The Name of the Doctor 8/10 9. The Wedding of River Song 8/10 8. The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos 9/10 7. Dark Water/ Death in Heaven 9/10 6. Utopia/The Sound of Drums/ The Last of the Time Lords 9/10 5. Hell Bent 9/10 4. World Enough and Time/ The Doctor Falls 9/10 3. The Vanquishers 10/10 2. The Pandorica Opens/ The Big Bang 10/10 1. Ascension of the Cybermen/ The Timeless Children 10/10
He didn't blame Moffat for Chibnall's writing at all. He blamed Moffat for setting a precedent for breaking the numbering of the Doctor's regenerations. Personally, I blame Robert Holmes for inventing the dumb 12-regen limit to begin with; it's caused no end of unnecessary trouble.
Crispy's entitled to his opinions. It's all subjective in the end. I must confess, not to care for the precise order of doctor. For me, the story is central. I'm still kind of waiting for a pay off, for the timeless child. It just went nowhere, and meant nothing. Maybe RTD2 can fix it, with a decent story, but I suspect he'll move past it, leaving it to Big Finish. Chris' tenure felt like a massive misfire, he didn't shine as Showrunner, or lead writer. The budget must be harder to balance in such an effects heavy show, (against Broadchurch), and with the pandemic. It's time for a new reboot, and I'm excited for November and beyond!
The Timeless Child plot-line acts as a continuation of the founding fathers plotline (sometimes known as the Cartmel Masterplan) from the 1980s, which was intended to bring back the mystery of the Doctor that was arguably lost in "The War Games" when they made him a Time-Lord. Chris Chibnall has stated that he wanted to dispel what he calls the sense that there was a "locked-in, fixed myth" for Doctor Who. This is why the fob watch has been left in the Tardis for now, so the show has effectively been reset to the status quo of the 1960s, when the Doctor's origins were up in the air. @@MrRjhyt
1. The Big Bang 2. The Doctor Falls 3. Last of the Time Lords 4. Doomsday 5. Journey's End 6. The Name of the Doctor 7. The Parting of the Ways 8. Death in Heaven 9. The Wedding of River Song 10. Hell Bent 11. The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos 12. The Timeless Children 13. The Vanquishers
1. Hell Bent was great. Not the best, but great. 2. The Timeless Children... Yeah, on its own, completely removed from anything and everything else, it's only kinda shit. More or less just not worth the time. But in the context of the rest of the show, this is the WORST story ever told in Doctor Who, and that includes things like "Kill the Moon", "Kerblam", and other hilariously horrible stories. It actively burns canon to the ground. No other story had ever managed to destroy the Doctor Who canon so much.
Yup... Yup, a good ranking. Russell was consistent, but Moffat's peaks could be stellar. He was being distracted by some other show... Has anyone heard of... I think it was called 'Sherlock'. Sadly, I've found very little in Chris Chibnall's tenure that holds my attention, or warrants a second viewing. It makes me reticent to give a damning judgement, but it just feels like there's no subtle by-plays to watch for, not much nuance to any of the characters. In Jodie's first season it felt like Graham delivered the most doctory style lines. The other companions were just interchangeable info dumps to prime the viewer for the Doctor's next actions. Nothing seemed to flow.
In my view Hell Bent is the last of a three parter; Face the Raven, Heaven Sent, Hell Bent, it's a classic three part narrative. Similar to Utopia, Sound of Drums and Last of the Timelords.
I'd say it's better described as a trilogy rather than an actual 3 parter
I think Hell Bent as one story because all three episodes would imo have to be written by the same person and series 9 has loose two parters and true two parters.
@@mr.scarlo2234Yeah Siries 9 most episodes are all 2 parters, I agree with you on the fact that Hell Bent is a separate story and is only 1 part
Agreed. I consider Utopia, Turn Left, Face the Raven, and World Enough and Time, all the first of three-parters. Each episode is it’s own story, but much more so part of a bigger narrative, but more closed off than entire season arcs.
Face the raven Litterally makes me cry every time, and i dont cry easily. Its an absolute masterpiece.
I will die on the hill that The Unqiet Dead is the 9th Doctor's Christmas Special as it takes place on Christmas
Freshest take I've seen in years hahaha
"When David Tennant becomes space Jesus" could be used a lot for Tennant's run
Honestly World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls might be my favourite dr who story ever so it's def my favourite finale lol
fr, it finally made the cyberman scary.
That and stolen earth yes
Yes it is definitely my all time favorite doctor who story as well
Interesting how there are mid-series finales in there but not any of the regeneration specials
If World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls isn't at the top I will cause an international incident
YES
Utopia and Heaven Sent are the best single episodes that are part of a finale.
Christopher Ecclestone gets Unquiet Dead which is set at Christmas tbf
can someone explain to me why World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls is so beloved? for me it was a Heaven Sent/Hell Bent situation all over again where the premise and set up and execution of the first part was perfect, literally amazing and perfect, but the second half was just a bunch of messing about and nonsense that doesn't pay anything off. I was so painfully disappointed by The Doctor Falls and I don't get the hype behind it.
No Attack of the Graske? It's the zenith of all Doctor Who!
That’s a minisode I believe this video is about finales
If there's one thing I've learnt from this is that two parter finales are usually the best ones.
If you look at individual episodes which make up part of a finale then stolen earth wins hands down.
6:01 a good man goes to war isn’t a finale it’s a episode number 7 of series 6 to be precise so it shouldn’t be on there
its a mid season finale
It's the finale of series 6a
The best series finale is obviously Series 5 - pretty flawless! It's the kind of story that's so crazy it just shouldn't work (especially after that cliffhanger), and yet Moffat knocks it out of the park
Then Series 1.
People always call it the end of the Bad Wolf storyline though - it's not about that. This is The 9th Doctor finding himself in basically the same situation he was in during The Time War, and completing his character arc by choosing a different outcome; The 9th Doctor in episode 6 wouldnt've done that but, with help from Rose, he is now a changed man - and then he LITERALLY becomes a changed man. It's poetry! That series was so well thought out and the finale ties EVERYTHING together, not just the Bad Wolf thing
And then sure, Series 10's was great too...
And The End of Time. Twice upon a Time and Power of The Doctor? 😊 3 régénérations
I adore S6 and the S6 finale lol. I really don't understand why it's so low for people. I must be blinded by my love for River haha. Anything involving her is right at the top. I think S6 is so high for me due to River's speech to the Doctor, "I can't let you die, without knowing you are loved. By so many and so much... and by no one more than me." Idk, just that one sentiment, especially with all the Doc's self-loathing, "I can't let you die without knowing you are loved" oof, gut punch.
For me the angel take Manhattan could have been a great episode but the simple fact that the statue of liberty his a weeping angel in this episode but that episode really low
I'm the complete oposite with Hell Bent. I have tried but I simpley just don't like the begginng scenes for various reasons, but I find myself enjoying the episode a lot more when Clara comes back to to the chemistry between her and 12. There are things I don't like after that point though, such as the constant cutbacks to the diner which completely ruin the pacing for me.
The only thing I liked about the series 10 finale is that Bill died
The regeneration episodes should've been here tbh
Next up, ranking video for every Doctor Who "Christmas" Special!😜 My favorite there is definitely Twice Upon A Time
He already made a video for that.
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Season 4 was peak for me! Not surprising, cant wait till 60th and altso Ncuti!
I love Heaven Sent, my favourite Capaldi episode, and it annoys me that its associated with the God awful Hell Bent.
Heaven Sent was the perfect way to end Series 9, and have a completely different story take place on Gallifrey for a Christmas special.
But no, Moffatt couldn't leave it there and had to completely undo everything and make the Doctors imprisonment in his confession dial completely pointless
I agree with most of the placements, but I would move Name of the Doctor to middling and A Good Man Goes to War a tier up. Heaven Sent should’ve been included just because it is the greatest episode of all time.
I don’t hate the timeless child messed with the regeneration count I hate how the doctor was the reason behind everything to do with timelords, regeneration, and the stories that deal with regenerations. It ruined Matt Smiths last story and the 12th doctors hybrid being himself. I’m just hoping the master was the reason behind it and putting false memories into the doctors head.
The Doctor isn't really behind everything, Tecteun is. The Doctor seems to constantly be a child through the Regeneration experiments, and it's just something that happens to them. Yes they are 'more important' but not because of anything they did, or fate, or anything that makes them particularly 'extraordinary'.
I think you saying that people don't like Timeless Children because it messes up the incarnation numbering does a huge disservice to the *actual* reasons people hate it. It's obviously not something petty like it messing up some numbers.
Counting _A Good Man Goes to War_ and not _End of Time_ as a finale? Hmmm.
End of Time was a special, Good Man was the finale of 6A
Can you do a tier list of all the doctors first episodes
Viewer age/introduction plays a role in it. I started when the show was rebooted so the top 2 are flipped, but mostly the same for this except maybe 2 other episodes.
Nine's 'Xmas' episode was The Unquiet Dead
pretty good ranking, I agree with most of the points although I would put series 3 down to middling, as I wasn't the biggest fan of it. everything else is pretty spot on tho.
I agree with most everything aside from TTC being so high, even aside from the terrible twist it's still an atrocious finale and it is 100x worse than season 7As, 8s, 9s and 6s finales
I understand why you and a lot of fans disliked certain choices, but it’s a hard disagree for me.
@@Jim_The_Fish You're allowed to like it but personally it's one of my least favourite episodes of any Tv ever. Genuinely a miserable episode.
Aside from the exposition dump section it's a pretty great episode imo.
@@Mejoree113 Eh it fails in basically every aspect
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heaven sent, theee best episode of all, so if you had called it a two parter with hell bent would have aced the table
i think jodie did a fantastic job with the material given. i think the timeless child will keep the doctor on the screen for many more decades, with no more wierd life granting
My brother watched Hell Bent for the first time a while back and I was surprised he liked it
Personally I think RTD broke the numbering. He had the Doctor regenerate in Series 4 with no consequence at all to it. So either someone was going to count that as a regeneration or come up with some contrived explanation for why the Master, who sought more lives, didn't just do that if it's a loophole around the thirteen life limit. Plus it makes Ten more sympathetic in TEOT if he's on his penultimate life.
1/9/10
4/5/8
3/7(A+B)
2/6(A+B)
11/13
12
Agreed, World Enough and Time / The Doctor Falls is the best finale
13: The Timeless Children
12: The Vanquishers
11: The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos
10: The Wedding of River Song
9: The Last of the Time Lords
8: Death in Heaven
7: The Big Bang
6: The Name of the Doctor
5: The Doctor Falls
4: Hell Bent
3: Journey’s End
2: Parting of the Ways
1: Doomsday
Agree with most, except hell bent, would put that as great in my book. Also, I don't even remember the vanquisher finale 😅!
Me neither
I totally agree with your Flux opinion. I really enjoyed overall, but the finale let it down, which is a shame!
The Vanquishers didn't even finalise it's plot. It was left with two big plot threads that just weren't pick back up. What the fuck was Time? Why was that never once brought up in the Power of the Doctor?
The Timeless Child plot-line is seemingly a continuation of the founding fathers plotline (sometimes known as the Cartmel Masterplan) from the 1980s, which was intended to bring back the mystery of the Doctor that was arguably lost in "The War Games" when they made him a Time-Lord. Chris Chibnall has stated that he wanted to dispel what he calls the sense that there was a "locked-in, fixed myth" for Doctor Who. This is why the fob watch has been left in the Tardis for now, so the show has effectively been reset to the status quo of the 1960s, when the Doctor's origins were up in the air. Time is a character from the 1990s novels. It is the sentient, cosmic embodiment of the force of time and, in the books, is one of the Eternals, a species first seen in "Enlightenment" They were recently referenced in "Can you Hear Me?".
tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Cartmel_Masterplan
tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Time_(mythology)
tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Time
Moffat's two cybermen based finales were perfect to me
How to you make vanquishers the most current season finale you seem to have forgotten Jodi Whittakers last run of episodes ending with her finale the power of the doctor. Not that it should rate very high
That was not part of a series, that was a centenary special
I think that's nit picking man because technically S7 angles take Manhattan is only a mid season finale and not a full season finale.and if you included it because it's Amy's finale ep then you should definitely include 13s finale ep. With sayin that you should include 10s finale ep. I only say as a doctor who fan but in a finals rating video I think the doctors final ep should be counted
@@philDAsull Should I have included The End of Time Part 2 then? Also I didnt make this list haha
I dislike _The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos_ so much that I count _Resolution_ as the finale of that season (in my own personal head canon). It feels much more like a finale.
agree except hell bent ml but ur channel logo is worrying lol ik it stands for crispy pro but i dont think its a good choice as branding lol
Great list, can you do series openers too?
@dwfan91 should make a version of this
S - 1, 10, 7B
A - 4, 6A, 7A, 5
B - 2, 3, 9, 12, 8 & 13
C - 6B, 11
D - none as of yet
My Finale Ranking, awesome video as always ❤
13.) Timeless Children S12
12.) Vanquishers S13
11.) Hell Bent S9
10.) Husband of River Song S6
9.) Battle of Ranskor Av Kolos S11
8.) Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Timelords S3
7.) Death In heaven/Dark Water S8
6.) Name of the Doctor S7
5.) Pandorica Opens/Big Bang S5
4.) Bad Wolf/Parting Of the Ways S1
3.) Army Of Ghosts/Doomsday S2
2.) Stolen Earth/Journeys End S4
1.) World enough and time/Doctor Falls S10
I mostly agree, i would put series 3 finale higher and series 1 and 2 finale (sorry not big fan of rose) lower but otherwise i agree.
I will
Not as big a fan of RTD finales as you are. Series One was awesome. His other three seasons are not so great to me. Some worse than others. Really didn't like Series Two. I like the end of Series Twelve a lot too!
My ranking finale new who is 13th The wedding of river song 12th hell bent 11th the battle of ranskoor av kolos 10th dark water and death in heaven 9th the stolen earth and journey’s end 8th the vanquishers 7th The sound of drums and the last of the time, lords 6th the timeless children 5th the pandorica opens and the big bang 4th the name of the doctor 3th Army of ghosts and doomsday 2th world enough and time and the doctor falls 1th bad wolf and the parting of the ways
Broooo season 6 is my favorite how can you put it there
My favorite finales are series 1, 4, and 10. These three stand out the most in my mind for their performances, plot, and concepts. As a fan of the daleks and Davros, the series 1 and 4 finales were really great. I've always been a fan of the original cybermen, so to see a story that brought back the Mondasian versions was great and scary.
As for Series 8 and 7, they were great and enjoyable, but not as much as the other three. The same thing can be said about series 5's finale. As for series 3 and 2, while fun to watch and enjoy, I'm not a fan of the 10 and Rose romance story, and of course, the whole space Jesus part in "Last of the Time Lords". Series 9, while having some really great parts like the first half and the Doctor stepping back into the TARDIS and getting his new Sonic, was not that great. Series 6 was very forgettable for me, there were some great moments, but nothing groundbreaking. As for series 11, 12, and 13, I have very mixxed feelings about. I'm the kind of person who enjoys the experience of watching any show or movie, even if it's bad, so the thought of it being bad most of the time won't click until a second viewing. Series 11, and 13's finales were very boring and/or convoluted. As for "the Timeless Children", this is the first Doctor Who episode that actually got me angry. As someone who grew up with the show, I just felt that the Doctor being the Timeless Child makes no sense given the established lore for over the past 50 (I'm going off of when the episode aired) years. I just think it's disrespectful and undermining the Doctor as a character and what their story had been..
The Timeless Child plot-line acts as a continuation of the founding fathers plotline (sometimes known as the Cartmel Masterplan) from the 1980s, which was intended to bring back the mystery of the Doctor that was arguably lost in "The War Games" when they made him a Time-Lord. Chris Chibnal has stated that he wanted to dispel what he calls the sense that there was a "locked-in, fixed myth" for Doctor Who. This is why the fob watch has been left in the Tardis for now, so the show has effectively been reset to the status quo of the 1960s, when the Doctor's origins were up in the air.
Series 1 and 5 are the best I think, don't have anything bad to say about them.
Pretty much agree with the whole list aside from The Stolen Earth/Journey's End would be at the top with Capaldis's last finale, and the Timeless Children. Would be right at the bottom.
My personal thoughts on my worst and best
Best: Series 10 2 parter. Just wow. An excellent companion exit, a phenomenal multi master concept, the cybermen regain a fair amount of their original horror elements, Capaldi is at his best in my opinion (I love grouchy Capaldi, but damn he sells all the emotion, that speech about doing what is right, him helping a small group of humans regardless of if it's just delaying the inevitable, I just love him here) I don't shut up about this episode it's just great. The concept of time moving differently for the different groups of the main cast is genius and using that to show the cybermen upgrade themselves over years while its only been hours for the survivors is so cool. The master's betrayal of not only the doctor but missy too, a full self sabotage out of spite for the doctor. He can't stand the idea of giving up his malice that he commits suicide the long way round because he hasn't experienced her growth and doesn't believe he ever will, while she lays dying in the dirt wondering if she actually could redeem herself, or if he was right. The questions this finale poses for the master's potential in the future of RTD2 are mind boggling, will a master redemption story ever be retried or can they actually never be redeemed. Was the master right or was missy? We'll have to see if they pick that back up in later series. It's the perfect balance in the main timelords. 12 is reitious and kind, missy is evil with a real compassionate heart burried under centuries of conflict with the doctor, and the master just being fully consumed and amused by his own evil. It's just a joy to watch, I have absolutely no issues besides the teasing lead into the underwhelming Christmas special, because if this was Capaldi's swan song this would possibly be the best Doctor exit of all of Doctor Who, not just the best finale.
Worst: tied between series 11 and 12.
11 is like you said bland. It's just a below average Doctor Who episode that's lazy on all fronts, evident as it was literally a first draft. And 12 is just painful. Canon breaking aside, it borders on disrespectful to the long term audience as well as the short term. It offers up explainations of the doctor's origin that in the grand scheme of things are totally irrelevant and inherently damage their entire history with Galifrey and their whimsical nature. It makes it to where the doctor isn't special because they broke free of Galifreyan society and did good throughout the universe, but instead were special by birthright and created the timelords making the doctor the most important being in all of creation simply for existing, which again negates the whole point of the doctor being some nobody from their homeworld that BECAME important. And remove all implications of the timeless child aspects, which is the entire point of the story, absolutely nothing happens. It's a bland destruction of thw cybermen which is undone mere episodes later. No lasting impact from a story that promised earth shattering revelations, no short term impact as all its creative choices have since been either dismissed or outright ruined, and they destroyed Galifrey over this terrible idea that they've already forgotten about. So many story opportunities gone by the wayside over something that practically doesn't exist anymore. It's a boring episode with an even worse base concept. But it's still tied with the series 11 finale because allowing a first draft of any episode of television (unless it's an immediate masterpiece first try) is absolutely absurd, especially when the episode count was cut from 12 to 10, there's no good excuses to film a first draft when you can't even develop a single main character beyond the surface level apart from ONE episode. Less episodes to worry about yet less work was put into every single one.
Those two finales are gonna be hard to beat for worst, unless RTD gets hammered in the writing room and just has a random side character narrating softcore doctor who smut or something stupid. It's going to be a tough challenge to write a worse finale than those ones and I pose that challenge to any writer that wants to take it lol
18. The End of Time
17. The Wedding Of River Song
16. Legend Of the Sea Devils
15. The Timeless Children
14. Hell Bent
13. The Battle Of Ranskoor Av Kolos
12. The Last Of The Time Lords
11. The Vanquishers
10. The Angels Take Manhattan
9. The Big Bang
8. Death In Heaven
7. Name Of The Doctor
6. Time Of The Doctor
5. The Doctor Falls
4. A Good Man Goes To War
3. The Parting Of The Ways
2. Doomsday
1. Journey's End
I reckon the Series 4 finale was overrated - there was too many cast members, too much going on, and generally too loud and bombastic. Series 5 however, is an underrated. Really enjoyed the pared back nature.
Totally agree Moffat knocked it out of the park with the Series 10 finale - amazing stuff.
Also agree that the Series 11 finale was incredibly dull. Nearly five years later, and I can't remember a single thing about it... except that it was dull.
My Ranking:
15. The Army of Ghosts/ Doomsday 6/10
14. The Giggle 6/10
13. Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways 7/10
12. The Legend of Ruby Sunday/ Empire of Death 8/10
11. The Stolen Earth/ Journey's End 8/10
10. The Name of the Doctor 8/10
9. The Wedding of River Song 8/10
8. The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos 9/10
7. Dark Water/ Death in Heaven 9/10
6. Utopia/The Sound of Drums/ The Last of the Time Lords 9/10
5. Hell Bent 9/10
4. World Enough and Time/ The Doctor Falls 9/10
3. The Vanquishers 10/10
2. The Pandorica Opens/ The Big Bang 10/10
1. Ascension of the Cybermen/ The Timeless Children 10/10
WRONG WRONG WRONG actually your kind of right but i dont resect peoples opinons for attention
hahah nice
11:35 Don't you dare blame Moffat for Chibs stupid writing
Ceispy alwaya being a shill for 13s era
He didn't blame Moffat for Chibnall's writing at all. He blamed Moffat for setting a precedent for breaking the numbering of the Doctor's regenerations. Personally, I blame Robert Holmes for inventing the dumb 12-regen limit to begin with; it's caused no end of unnecessary trouble.
Crispy's entitled to his opinions. It's all subjective in the end. I must confess, not to care for the precise order of doctor. For me, the story is central. I'm still kind of waiting for a pay off, for the timeless child. It just went nowhere, and meant nothing. Maybe RTD2 can fix it, with a decent story, but I suspect he'll move past it, leaving it to Big Finish. Chris' tenure felt like a massive misfire, he didn't shine as Showrunner, or lead writer. The budget must be harder to balance in such an effects heavy show, (against Broadchurch), and with the pandemic. It's time for a new reboot, and I'm excited for November and beyond!
The Timeless Child plot-line acts as a continuation of the founding fathers plotline (sometimes known as the Cartmel Masterplan) from the 1980s, which was intended to bring back the mystery of the Doctor that was arguably lost in "The War Games" when they made him a Time-Lord. Chris Chibnall has stated that he wanted to dispel what he calls the sense that there was a "locked-in, fixed myth" for Doctor Who. This is why the fob watch has been left in the Tardis for now, so the show has effectively been reset to the status quo of the 1960s, when the Doctor's origins were up in the air. @@MrRjhyt
Hate wood timey
We do blame chibnall
1. The Big Bang
2. The Doctor Falls
3. Last of the Time Lords
4. Doomsday
5. Journey's End
6. The Name of the Doctor
7. The Parting of the Ways
8. Death in Heaven
9. The Wedding of River Song
10. Hell Bent
11. The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos
12. The Timeless Children
13. The Vanquishers
1. Hell Bent was great. Not the best, but great.
2. The Timeless Children... Yeah, on its own, completely removed from anything and everything else, it's only kinda shit. More or less just not worth the time. But in the context of the rest of the show, this is the WORST story ever told in Doctor Who, and that includes things like "Kill the Moon", "Kerblam", and other hilariously horrible stories. It actively burns canon to the ground. No other story had ever managed to destroy the Doctor Who canon so much.
Yup... Yup, a good ranking. Russell was consistent, but Moffat's peaks could be stellar. He was being distracted by some other show... Has anyone heard of... I think it was called 'Sherlock'.
Sadly, I've found very little in Chris Chibnall's tenure that holds my attention, or warrants a second viewing. It makes me reticent to give a damning judgement, but it just feels like there's no subtle by-plays to watch for, not much nuance to any of the characters. In Jodie's first season it felt like Graham delivered the most doctory style lines. The other companions were just interchangeable info dumps to prime the viewer for the Doctor's next actions. Nothing seemed to flow.
I actually think a second viewing is a good idea and there are things you will notice with a rewatch compared to initial watch
Not gonna lie, finales have rarely been good. Personally I feel they focus too much on world ending stakes and it has to be bigger than the last.