My video on the issue of the BBC's support of Transphobia: ua-cam.com/video/aN4uc0HZrWE/v-deo.html My video on the BBC's response to complaints of its reporting: ua-cam.com/video/skh81N5lcYY/v-deo.html My short on why I'll continue to put up the note at the front of these: ua-cam.com/users/shortsHpwwzjzFXiE Shaun's 1st video, which includes some additional confirmed information: ua-cam.com/video/b4buJMMiwcg/v-deo.html Shaun’s 2nd video, which follows how the BBC is trying to dodge accountability for all of this: ua-cam.com/video/qfjTG6SVjmQ/v-deo.html Shaun’s 3rd video, following him escalating his complaints: ua-cam.com/video/fRn1UZ4fhdE/v-deo.html Shaun's 4th video, covering the BBC's response: ua-cam.com/video/3F7GW7Ro4OQ/v-deo.html Laura Kate Dale's protest speech outside the BBC offices: ua-cam.com/video/hBjGnWkwAjI/v-deo.html
Regarding the story of Jo Martin's Doctor... There's a bit of her story revealed in the third episode of Flux. I just caught it on like my third watch. It's a very convoluted episode. Jodi plays the part in one of Jo Martin's memories so it's easy to miss. But basically, Jo Martin's doctor used to work with Karvinista [sp?] for the Division, and she was the Commander during a previous battle on the planet time, at the temple of Atropos. The Ravagers (swarm & azure) were going to..... something, it's unclear. Pretty sure Jo Martin's doctor was who originally imprisoned the ravagers after the battle and put the mouri in place, probably at the behest of division. It's not a lot more time with her, but I was kinda floored when I realised I was watching one of her memories. Oh right, he was gonna reign in hell. forgot
It's really messed up to use phrases like "went native." It perpetuates the Indian savage trope and the belief that indigenous communities were/are lesser than those of their colonizers.
@@tayfay909 I thought the phrase "went native" referred to doing something as the locals would do rather than a tourist, such as use their language for instance. I can't remember what the context was though.
Christopher Eccelston is probably my fav. While everyone talks about how he's so angry and damaged but what I love about him is that there is such a kindness and warmth to him too. He is detached from his trauma and very blunt he also is someone you would feel comfortable talking to and would help you. Also he's very funny
Too bad about everything surrounding his tenure An extra season or 2 would have cemented his place as the starting reboot doctor Basically everyone started with Tennant or smith
The problem is: we know now, since Gallifrey *wasn’t* destroyed, that 9 was grumpy and moody for no reason. He could have just gone to the end of the universe and found it again. Remember? That’s why 12 didn’t find it - he went to the right place, but the wrong time. So the same applies for nine - if he went to the right year at the end of the universe he’d find it and learn the truth.
@@Jamestopboy I don't like the gallifrey returning thing but his arc still works in the fact he just went through a war that lasted hundreds of years that would give anyone ptsd
I'm so happy nine made it so high up. Because nine has a special place in my heart, he was of course the first Doctor that I've watched. And he pulled me in. He was somewhat melancholic, I liked his roughness. I think he has just some really stong scenes and dialogues/ monologue. Like the one about the survival of mankind. Or everybody lives. Or the tough guy act he puts on for "I'm going to save Rose Tyler" where he legitimately has a break down afterwards
You're the second person I've seen rank Peter Capaldi as number 1 and it really makes me feel better about myself wanting to have him at number 1...for me it's a toss up between 12 and 10. 7 is my all time favorite classic Doctor, for the record.
as much as i love the attitude and charisma the 10th doctor and David Tennant have, the goofiness and rage, he feels like a human pretending to be an alien, rather than an alien pretending to be human. which isn't bad, he just isn't what i want in the doctor. that's why 11 is one of my favorites. he's goofy and whimsical but gets kinda manipulative and rageful and never feels quite human despite almost making you think he is.
This ranking makes me feel so happy. Your top 3 are the same as mine. I've always been a 7th Doctor kid, growing up in the 1990's, watching old VHS videos. IMO, his 2 last seasons are the strongest of the whole classic era. They ended on a high note and I'm glad that the somewhat underrated 7th Doctor has gotten more love in latter years. Thank's for a great Channel! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Eight has grown on me a lot since I started reading the books. To be honest, he never really clicked for me on audio, be it Breathless Eight from the Charley/Lucie stuff or Leather Eight from Dark Eyes on. In the books, though, he benefits hugely from the introduction of Fitz, a companion who compliments him perfectly and brings out the best in him.
I find it hard to rank them. I love them all. My favourite is Matt Smith, but that’s only really sentimental reasons rather than anything that genuinely makes him better than the others. I’m also very partial to the earliest Doctors, Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee and Baker #1 (what can I say, I love the classics, I love that era of the show). I love the crotchety old First Doctor, the impish, Chaplin-like personality of the Second Doctor (something I like in particular about him, while with other Doctors I realise that they are putting on a front to pretend they’re just silly and weird, but are really incredibly powerful beings, Troughton’s the opposite, the power is the front with him), Pertwee’s absolute charisma, and Baker’s brilliant eccentricity. Also, Sylvester McCoy is a favourite.
Out of curiosity, where would you rank David Bradley's portrayal of the 1st doctor? Did his portrayal factor into your opinion when making this list or was your opinion purely on Hartnell's portrayal?🙂
I thought that his portrayal of the Doctor in... what was that episode... Capaldi's last episode.... was kind of off putting. From what I remember of the First Doctor he was never quite so blatantly stodgy and old fashioned as far as male and female roles and such. It seemed as a commentary more than a true characterization. Granted my memory of the First Doctor was maybe 3 or 4 stories but I think I'm right.
@@MarkEdwarMurphy you are right. though I will say, I don't blame Bradley at all for it. I think he did as good a job as he could with the material he was given. I'm really angry at Moffat for writing the first Doctor as blantantly sexist when he wasn't in the original run. Like, the REAL first Doctor literally had his view of humanity changed for the better by a woman for freaks sake! Even the smack bottom line was not sexist in it's original context. The Doctor feeling like he could threaten Susan with that has nothing to do with her gender, and everything to do with her being his grandchild. He's disciplining a younger family member that he feels responsible for, after she caused some genuine trouble. Not to say it's not problematic still. Spanking, while perhaps seen as acceptable at the time, has since been proven a bad means of discipline. But if they were going to call it out, they should have made it clear what the actual problem with it is. The way they did it in Twice Upon a Time makes it easy for it to be dismissed as just another sexist line, due to the Doctor being portraid as sexist before and it's not made clear why he feels he has the authority to discipline Bill, which makes it seem like it's because she's a woman. I wouldn't even be surprised if that was the intended reading of the Moffat penned version of the line, since he seems to think the First Doctor was Sexist. His reason for threating Bill with a 'smack bottom' is also ridiculous. Him thinking a grown woman should get spanked for using slightly bad language is insane. It's especially annoying when they could have made that line work in a way that was actually true to the character. make Bill's offense worse and make him feel like he has the authority to discipline her due to her being the 12th Doctor's student (and make it clear that's the reason. nothing to do with gender) and then it you can call it out for what it actually is. Not sexist, but a problematic idea of what's an acceptable way to discipline younger family members and students. Sorry of the rant, but I'm a massive First Doctor fan and Moffat's writing of him just pisses me off so much.
With the definitive companion I started thinking about the 10th doctor who has a different companion ever season for me it would be rose but I have a feeling a lot of people would consider it to be Donna which I do also get
Literally just made up my own version of this ranking the other day, so I thought I'd share. Now, I'm admittedly terrible at faves, so some of the rankings (especially in the 'muddy middle' where things get a bit difficult) could change at any point. But I still thought it was a fun exercise, especially after we just had a new regeneration: DOCTORS RANKED (as of October 2022): 1. Seventh Doctor 2. Twelfth Doctor 3. TIED: Second Doctor and Eleventh Doctor 4. Fourth Doctor (heh, he's number four, I just noticed -- LOL) 5. TIED: Eighth Doctor and Tenth Doctor 6. Fifth Doctor 7. Sixth Doctor 8. First Doctor 9. Third Doctor 10. Ninth Doctor 11. Thirteenth Doctor NOTES: Yes, I left out the War Doctor and the Jo Martin Doctor (and Handy, etc) just to make things easier. And yes, I had two ties, but I kept switching them back and forth in the ranking and I just eventually gave up because I couldn't decide which one I liked more in the spot (again, I'm terrible at faves).
Come on, the Third is as beautiful as the dawn. James Bond? Yes. But the scene in which he tells Jo about daisies and the meaning of life is probably the best thing that has ever happened in the series. In general, when he speaks in his deep voice and looks from the screen with his philosopher's eyes.... Are you sure you've watched all his seasons? I don't think so. The First. No Doctor has ever had such a strong character arch. He started out as an arrogant alien psychopath who was ready to kill a caveman with a rock. And then, thanks to human companions, he became the Doctor we know. You don't seem to know any of this.
Jodi's doctor to me was a character with so much darkness they tried to hide it was humor, leaning into the confusion and her happy for lucky nature was trying to hide something so much darker. She had a fear of the timeless child from the time it was first mentioned in ghost monument. She hid it. She hid it behind a wounderlust that was very much real but also there's a hint of severe depression.
I absolutely agree. There was something definitely hiding, but her wonder of the universe was a refreshing change from some stuff before hand. I just wish they leaned into it more, as it often came across as very surface. Fingers crossed for Big Finish 🤞
For me this is my list based on the Doctor himself, the way that he is, his personality and the way that he carry’s himself, amount of time onscreen and stories are irrelevant to the list: 15. Thirteenth Doctor 14. Fugitive Doctor 13. War Doctor 12. Seventh Doctor 11. Fifth Doctor 10. First Doctor 9. Third Doctor 8. Sixth Doctor 7. Eighth Doctor 6. Twelfth Doctor 5. Second Doctor 4. Fourth Doctor 3. Eleventh Doctor 2. Ninth Doctor 1. Tenth Doctor
I've grown to really like hartnell, especially the scene after Steven left. When I started watching classic I thought I'd have to go through slop until it got good with the 3rd or 4th doctor. I was very wrong
During his era Capaldi was criticized. And now he is worshipped. Jodie Whittaker's era is criticized, but to me she was a great doctor, I will miss her energy, her passion, her warmth, and how emotional she was. The flux was a great season and The Power of the Doctor was a great episode
I get what you mean about seeing someone talk about their work in person - I saw GRRM give a talk at my uni and having heard him speak, the person on the throne at the end actually makes a lot of sense
I'm going to be honest, I don't get the love for Capaldi's Doctor. He's a fantastic actor, but the writing during his era was really uneven and outright bad in places. Don't get me wrong, he's still an okay Doctor (and the writing was better than the Jodie era), but was absolutely capable of being so much better and the stories and characterization of both him and his companions should have been so much stronger than it was. That's just my opinion, though.
I could never rank them entirely but my top 4 are always Tom Baker, Peter Capaldi, Christopher Eccleston and Paul McGann. The order of such changes with my mood lol
@@CouncilofGeeks They're the two humans from (Under The Lake/) Before The Flood who went back in time with The Doctor, The Doctor lets O'Donnell get killed to test his theory that the "ghosts" were listing people's names in the order of their deaths. Bennett calls him out on his callous disregard for the life of anyone who wasn't Clara Oswald.
I only have the TV show, and I haven't been into the classics for very long, other than I've seen enough episodes of each to be able to rank them crudely Least great to greatest. I like SOMETHING in all of them: War Doctor / Fugitive Doctor - Not enough TV Material to make a rational judgement. No ranking Fourteenth and Fifteenth Doctor I've seen as much as I have of the 8th doctor, but I holding off until at least a few regular episodes. If I'm being honest though, the specials have me a little puzzled as to intended audience, and they gave me a tinge of sadness, (pre-maturely, I know), that MY Doctor Who is likely going to consist of Doctors 1 - 13, going forward. I'll keep watching, and I'll do this again in a year or so, and see how I feel. Ncuti Gatwa seems like a fine actor, and likewise his new companion, but the stories I've seen so far have had very few "Doctor W1ho" moments in them, and there's just too much jiggering around with the past. I'm glad that they've started over, and that the upcoming will be season one. A whole new franchise. A clean break to see if millenials, zoomers, etc. can have their own Who, made just for them, with their kind of intrigue, comedy, emotion, etc. that's distinct from generations of the past. I have great hopes that the younger new viewers have a great time and carry their show into the ages. So: For now anyway: 14 - Fourteenth Doctor: David Tennant (A little less than Meh for me. There just doesn't seem to be any there - there. It's a shame. Tennant's a fina actor. This is down to writing I guess. 13 - Eighth Doctor: Paul McGann (I haven't dipped into Big Finish yes, so this is all based on a TV movie. It wasn't very good, but he was, so, looking forward to trying audio stories) 12 - Sixth Doctor: Colin Baker: (No thank you. I'll see what happens if I can get into audio stories) 11 - Thirteenth Doctor: Jody Whitaker. (On rewatch I'm enjoying some of her stories a little bit more, but the writers for her series were hell bent (pardon the pun), on changing what and and who the doctor is, and I just don't can't seem to get my head and heart coordinated with this writer/showrunners vision for the show. Interestingly Chibnall wrote some episodes and stories for other doctors that were pretty darn good, but he was coloring withing the lines back then.) 10 - Seventh Doctor: Sylvester McCoy. (I expect this one to change quite a bit. Hopefully I'll get into the audio books for starters, and after listening to this COG review, I'm going to look a little closer at the TV episodes as well) 9 - First Doctor: WIlliam Hartnell: (He's the progenitor of this who shootin match, but frankly, I have some trouble staying engaged with his stories. I keep trying. I'm sure it will raise up in time. 8 - Fourth Doctor: Tom Baker (I'm guessing this guy is THE DOCTOR because of his sheer longevity. Most of the early ones I saw of his were VERY well acted, and I love his take on the Doctor, but I'm afraid as an outsider who didn't grow up with this show, these just don't hold up very well, and many of the effects are still pretty lo-fi and jokey. I think I get it with the personality though. He's really alien, but I think I like Smith and Capaldi for this aspect even more. 7 - Third Doctor: Jon Pertwee (I LIKE the James Bond Doctor. It kind of worked for me) 6 Tenth Doctor: David Tennant (Very enjoyable doctor. I could have maybe done without the romance with Rose. Not really Doctorish. Some of my favorite stories of all time though had Doctor 10 and even Rose. So I know how hypocritical this sounds. It is what it is. 5 - Ninth Doctor: Chris Eccleston (A little better 10th doctor with not nearly enough episodes to get his full potential across. 4 - Second Doctor: Patrick Troughton (For all of everyone elses reason. This guy is the goods. It's a shame we don't have more of his TV Stories. He may even be higher) 3 - Fifth Doctor: Peter Davison (Yep. What can I say. When my wife and I were going through classic stories, we both alit on Five, and said let's watch all of his. Something about him just grabbed both of us. I find him quirky, and alien with a 3d chess type of sense of humor that I fear some detractors just don't get. I think he's really an extension of Tom Baker in a lot of ways, but with a new set of quirks. But he does it better consistently. Whereas Baker, who was probably just on too long, lost a lot of his oomph towards the end. 2 - Eleventh Doctor: Matt Smith Next down from 12/Clara is 11/Amy. And no that far down Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi played human loving, but alien aliens better than anyone imho, including the classic doctors. 11 and 12 are just my jams. What can I say? 1 - Twelfth Doctor: Peter Capaldi (Absolutely everything I could ask for from a Doctor in any era. The Pairing of 12 and Clara, and their arc together is my favorite episodic television of all time. Laughing, Crying, and thinking all the way. I don't even eat pears anymore. My only piece of Doctor Who swag is a T-shirt of 12 and Clara crossing the famous Abbey Road crosswalk in London with 2 Daleks)
1) Eleventh Doctor 2) Twelfth Doctor 3) Forth Doctor 4) Seventh Doctor 5) Second Doctor 6) Ninth Doctor 7) Eighth Doctor 8) Third Doctor 9) Sixth Doctor 10) Tenth Doctor 11) First Doctor 12) Fifth Doctor 13) Thirteenth Doctor I can't really fairly put War or Fugitive on the list as they aren't around enough to compare them to other Doctors.
I belive if a Doctor havent got their lead role on screen, they shouldn't be on top lists neither. I still dont know what would Doctor Who be like if John Hurts Doctor got a series or his own movie bc it never happened. Therefore i cant compare him to the others.
@@katokianimation yeah I actually really love the War Doctor, thought John Hurt brought such a gravitas to the role but it's unfair to judge on one episode
Great list & esp great reasoning! Can’t argue at all, though haven’t listened to any Big Finish with 6, obvs gotta do that & made a note. For me most of Clara put a damper on her Doctors. She just didn’t work for me, though I know she meant a lot to many. So, no complaining/arguing. Capaldi was my fave overall, I like an oldish grumpy doctor I guess, and with Bill though the stories weren’t all great, they are still my favorite pair. Eccleston & esp Smith eps still work best as rewatches for me (usually my touchstone to remind me what I really do like) but if you include classics, the 4th is superior in every way, esp the Douglas Adams era. That was weird indeed, in the best possible way. Honestly Shada is my favorite story, love the remake, the novel (never mind the pauthor) and Adams’s retelling via Dirk Gently.
Since you asked: 7 (There's a fundamental darkness to this portrayal due to his being willing to manipulate all of time and space in order to ensure that falls when he chooses to encounter them that I love to see when it comes up. The trickster hero is something we don't see often, more usually seeing that archetype in mentor or and I am here for it. I think perhaps the New Adventures went too far with it - Survival I think works better if he pulls back on the manipulative stuff, at least for how he relates to his companions, seeing the Master... Pull that same manipulation on his pseudo-companion in that story that he was doing on the regular - even in a role as a mentor figure.) 12 ("The man who defeats the monsters" - Pragmatic to a fault. A journey of learning to be kind despite the pragmatism, and anxious that the pragmatism he immediately saw when he regenerated meant he wasn't a good man. Probably the Doctor I'd trust most not because he's more likely to save me, but because if he realized he couldn't he'd be most likely to use my death to save others, and I don't know why but I find that more reassuring than, for example, 10's fake platitudes, and I think that applies even at the end of his journey) 6 (Not as much due to the audios as for a lot of people, but the audios, and what little comics and novels I've read with him, are definitely doing a lot of work here. Weirdly not my favourite role to see Colin Baker play. In Doctor Who. His performance as Frobisher in The Maltese Penguin makes that audio short.) 4 (While not my favourite Doctor, probably the Doctor I envision when I envision a default Doctor a lot. Tom Baker's charisma is doing a lot, but there's an understated dry humour to him in the writing of the Hinchcliffe era that morphs into a delightful aloof silliness beyond it that I love watching.) 9 (Charisma, an awkward sense of comedy that feels as much him putting on a front to cover his wounds as anything else. He's a damaged Doctor, and it shows in the performance throughout, right up until "Coward, any day.") 8 (The Romantic Doctor. Not as in romance in the modern sense (Although I think 8/Charlie is the only Doctor/companion romance that's on screen - so to speak - and I like), but as in an adoration of life itself) 11 (I don't have much to say about 11, weirdly, despite liking his characterization a ton.) Fugitive (From what we see of her, she has a commanding presence. And for me, at the moment, that's doing far more than it probably should be.) 13 (For me, 13's Doctor is 5 done well. And with less of the ineffectual snark.) 2 (Everything I love about 7, but less prominent. Also I just haven't seen that much of his stuff because UK Gold's repeats, which is how I've seen most of what I've seen of 1 and 2, had an allergy to the black and white episodes so usually started their runs from the third Doctor. Will likely go up as I see more of his stories.) 10 (This one's weird. I like his licking obsession in S2. I like the darkness that's present right from The Christmas Invasion... But only really seen in hints in The Christmas Invasion, New Earth, School Reunion, and The Runaway Bride, and then pretty much not seen again until . I want to interpret the 'most human' as you put it side of it as a cover for his companion but there's so much of that and so little of the dark thread underpinning it that it's a struggle to view it as a front he put on for his companions and, in particular, Rose.) 5 (Again, good, but doesn't do anything for me but Caves of Androzani is pulling a lot of weight for me there) 1 (He's good, but... Doesn't really do anything for me. Might be due to how little of 1 I've seen because ) War (Waste of an opportunity, since he's more or less a framing device in his screen role. Hurt's wonderful with what he's given, mind) 3 (Jon Pertwee's wonderful in the part, it's my second favourite of his roles for him that I've seen (...Granted the #1 there has a very heavy dose of nostalgia - He's the VA of Spotty in Super Ted which I was airing in repeats when I was the absolute perfect age for Super Ted) but there are various things about how 3's written that just rubs me entirely the wrong way that I don't see this consistently from any other Doctor.)
Capaldi,Troughton, Sylvester , Tom, and Jon at the top. David 1,Matt, Peter,Hartnell , Chris in the middle, then Colin and McGann after that. Then in the pit of hell hopefully never to be seen again, Jodie. (JO Martin and The Timeless Abomination don't count in my book.butshe is still light years ahead of Jodie)
Hmmm it's tough for me as I think ALL of them are brilliant, there is yet to be a "Bad" Doctor, so even my last place I still love - each and every incarnation is THE Doctor and I love them all So here's my ranking: Capaldi McCoy Troughton Whittaker Eccleston Tennant Smith T Baker Hartnell Davison Pertwee C Baker McGann Martin Hurt
My ranking (worst to best): Sylvester McCoy* Colin Baker (TV) Jodi Whittaker Peter Capaldi William Harnell Paul McGann* Jon Pertwee Peter Davison* Colin Baker (Big Finish) Christopher Eccleston Matt Smith Patrick Troughton David Tennant Tom Baker *Both TV and Big Finish I've only listened to a couple of Tom Baker's Big Finish stories, and while I thought he was rather weak in them, they're not much to judge from, and maybe he got better as he got in the swing of things, so I'm pretty much just ignoring them. As for Paul McGann, I remember thinking he was the best thing about that terrible TV movie, but I haven't seen it in long enough that I'm mostly just judging him by his Big Finish Stuff. The War Doctor and Fugitive Doctor don't count; they're not real Doctors... not that I would rank either particularly highly anyway. The Fugitive Doctor has zero charisma and not much more personality, and as for the War Doctor, they cast somebody who is physically incapable due to age... as a warrior (and when they had a perfectly capable Paul McGann who they could've featured rather than shoehorning in a whole new incarnation for the sake of single episode).
Oh, and I disagree with the Big Finish episodes you chose to hype the Sixth Doctor. "Holy Terror" is, indeed, a good episode, but not very Doctor-centric, and "Jubilee" is dramatically overrated. Of the ones I've heard, I'd go with "Urgent Calls". I may also be something of an outlier on this, but I'm not actually a big fan of Evelyn Smythe, and prefer it when he's paired with somebody else (or no one at all). Yes, I feel kind of lame putting the 4th and 10th Doctors at the top, but that's honestly how I feel, and I think they're popular/iconic for a reason.
Oh wow. I've been typing this as I watched your video, and I'm only now coming to the end and realizing that your two favorite Doctors are both ones I don't particularly care for. Capaldi's Doctor just doesn't click with me, and I honestly find it difficult to get past my dislike of the 7th Doctor in order to enjoy his Big Finish adventures (his TV stories were awful enough on their own that I don't know how much he was bringing them down). Actually, there's another thing McCoy and Capaldi have in common: I walked away from the show partway through both of their eras. (I did eventually go back many years later and watch through all of classic Who, but I still haven't gotten back to Capaldi.)
I agree with you about the 5th Doctor's companions. In many ways, I think Davison's Doctor and Pertwee's are reverse of each other. I like the personality of the 5th Doctor, but he doesn't have much of a dynamic with anybody (TV or Big Finish). Meanwhile, the 3rd Doctor's personality isn't one that I'm naturally drawn to, but he has some great character dynamics, especially with the Master and the Brigadier.
Capaldi is higher than smith? sorry but I have to respectfully disagree, also that does not make sense with your claim on tennant being "too human" because capaldi was the most "human" doctor in my book (besides some quirks) but... his run brought us Missy who is so... fine... hey missy!
Capaldi is my favourite and that's the best thing you can disagree all you want but it's an opinion not a fact just like you liking matt Smith is also only an opinion and not a fact
@@mads-Riley-Art if you check my sentence I did not state that as a fact/given or even an answer as a fan, it was my opinion also it had the "respectfully disagree" in it... so... yeah I disagreed respectfully ... My point still stands all the "quirks" that capaldi gave to the doctor were actually human... some of them were fun some of them were cringy... it happens.
I'm currently working my way through classic Who and have just started on the Fourth Doctor's era, so my ranking based on the Doctors I've seen so far (excluding War and Fugitive since there's not enough onscreen material to really get a feel for them) are: 1. Twelfth Doctor 2. Ninth Doctor 3. Second Doctor 4. Eleventh Doctor 5. First Doctor 6. Tenth Doctor 7. Third Doctor 8. Thirteenth Doctor
Capaldi's Doctor, to me, is everything the Doctor is personified to perfection, and I can't imagine someone doing it better than him (but I'd love to be proven wrong). The only thing I wish was that we got more of him before he went.
I don't know that anyone will ever knock Matt Smith from being number one in my eyes, but I love Capaldi and this is a great list! I love hearing people's different rankings and perspectives, it often makes me notice and appreciate new things about each doctor that hadn't really crossed my mind before.
Jodie’s last words “tag you’re it” was the moment I finally understood who her doctor was. She was about all optimism (sometimes to a fault) and childlike wonder. She was the happy go lucky doctor but she hid a darker side, hence her tendency to sometimes distance herself from her companions when dealing with real emotions
@@QuackUp I feel like his doctor was more whacky and whimsical in my opinion, he was more the childish Doctor (not a negative opinion) whereas 13 more focuses on the wonder of that
The Tenth Doctor is mine, and probably always will be--but I thought your breakdown was spot on. I loved in 10 the moments that the alienness peeked through and you saw who he really was underneath the congenial veneer. His eyes would just go flat and there would be all of eternity in there. Matt is probably a close second and Peter third, I didn't connect with him until that last season, but his relationship with Missy and Bill was FANTASTIC.
I hated Peter Capaldi's Doctor. He was insecure, misanthropic, sociopathic and a disgrace to the Doctor's core character. It was like if the Valeyard was an actual regeneration. However, Michael Jayston was INTENTIONALLY stomping all over the Doctor's core principles. Peter Capaldi did it through sheer incompetence. If I didn't care so much about Clara Oswald, I would have never reached the end of Season 8. I only tuned in for Season 9 because she stayed to help Capaldi clean up his own mess. I never wanted Clara to leave but I couldn't wait to get rid of Capaldi. Hell, I probably would have cheered if she literally had slapped him into his next regeneration. The thing I hate most is the awareness that Seasons 8 and 9 had the potential to be incredible. They had so many aspects that should have easily put them among the greatest eras in Doctor Who's entire history but Peter Capaldi dragged them down. I'd actually be more forgiving if Seasons 8 and 9 had just been bad seasons. Instead, they were great seasons with a bad Doctor.
1. Peter Capaldi 2. Tom Baker 3. Matt Smith 4. Christopher Eccleston 5. Colin Baker 6. Jon Pertwee 7. Jo Martin 8. Paul McGann 9. John Hurt 10. Sylvester McCoy 11. David Tennant 12. Patrick Troughton 13. William Hartnell 14. Peter Davison 15. Jodie Whittaker
It's a pleasure to see the Seventh Doctor getting a little love. The dark, mischevious and manipulative chess master, perfectly contrasted by a familial teacher/student bond with Ace, the explosive teenage rebel. They're total opposites in almost every way, yet completely inseperable - from cute and caring moments to bitter arguments over their differences. They have such great chemistry, helped by being such close friends in real life. It was great to see them together one more time in Power of the Doctor.
Matt Smith's Doctor is still my #1. I admit I had a hard time warming up to Capaldi's Doctor because it was such a jarring change, but with time he has grown on me...
I felt liturally the same. After Matt Smith left i hated that the Doctor isnt wihmsy a young man who deliveres jokes perfectly but ages 1000 years. in a second if he is pushed to the edge, anymore. But now i see him ass a great Doctor for very different reasons why i loved 11. Also the fact that Moffat got really tired at this point didn't help.
I cut Peter Davison a lot of slack: he had to replace Tom Baker. That in itself was an intimidating task. And his Doctor is, by necessity, very different. The intention was to make him stand away from Baker, and I think that was correct. I liked his slightly unsure, fairly vulnerable character, prone to error, paying for them. I felt, at the time, that he had some very good stories (it's been decades and I no longer remember them, but I do remember how I felt watching him). I think it's hard for people not having lived through the actual transition, to appreciate what Davison had to do - figure Troughton multiplied. It was hard, He did well. I personally would place him higher than very bottom.
My top 3 I cant differentiate genuinely are 10,11&12. I know 10 feels so human but I like to think that’s the guilt from the time war, he met rose after the time war and for the first time felt happiness again and purpose again and that was through a human and so wanted to connected with humanity even more and was jealous of humanities simplicity compared to time lords. I think family of blood really summed that up for me- when John Smith says how the thought of love didn’t even cross the doctors mind in the plan. The 10th doctor wants love, whether that be romantic with rose or platonically with Donna and he only seemed capable of it as a human so he acts human like. 11 was a fresh start for the doctor. He went through so much as 10 and so when the first person he met as 11 was a child he learnt to have fun again. He craves that naivety and just relaxing and that’s bc the first person he met was a kid. After all the loss 10 experienced, he wanted a family a stable family that was his and so met the ponds and was happy. But there was that darkness he carried with him, he kept the trauma with him but he’d finally learned how to not move on but have a clean start and keep the childlikeness he craved when he met a child for the first time at the front of his life but still had that old soul and darkness with him. Ugh perfection 12 was then just so special as a doctor. He realised towards of the end of 11 that he wasn’t human and so it felt like with 12, he accepted it and stopped trying to fit in. He had that old soul but the kindest soul, he stopped letting people have excuses for the way they acted and held them responsible for their actions. He didn’t hide his disgust and he didn’t want to fit in anymore. He just wanted to help who he could. Ugh capaldi NAILED it.
I feel like I rank 11th Doctor - my favourite Doctor - and the 7th Doctor highly for the same reason - I really dig the slightly Machiavellian and dark side of the character. Where he conceals things or pushes things in a certain direction For example, The Curse of Fenric and God Complex both even go as far as them purposely breaking their companion's faith in him for a moment. It's emotional manipulation which of course can be skeevy but it saves the day. And how they have a darkness in them, a storm brewing, a mood sometimes, but ultimately are the friend and hero still. Smith's Doctor, to me, is a mix of Troughton's and McCoy's too, which helps.
Exactly! I just posted a similar comment. You can definitely see some 2 and 7 in the 11th! 11 is my second favorite modern Doctor. I thought Matt Smith did an excellent job portraying a very “old soul” in a young body!
1. Tom Baker/Peter Capaldi 2. Patrick Troughton 3. Jon Pertwee 4. William Hartnell 5. Paul McGann 6. Matt Smith 7. David Tennant 8. John Hurt 9. Christopher Eccleston 10. Sylvester McCoy 11. Jo Martin 12. Colin Baker 13. Jodie Whittaker 14. Peter Davison
This list is heresy! And thats what I love about Doctor Who! How everyone has personal reasons for ranking their favorite Doctors. With me I came into the show at the end of Tom Bakers era at an age where I was too young to really understand what was going on and also with the idea that he had been the Doctor forever, but then really grew up with the fifth Doctor so while he may not be so high on my list of favorites I have a real love for a lot of the stories of that era. Then of course as I got a little older I was able to really appreciate the seventh Doctor who was my favorite for years, having experienced the hearbreaking 'end' of the series with him. Have to say as in OG fan David Tennant actually replaced him though as my overall favorite, to the point that I am sort of biased against Matt Smith simply for replacing him. Anyway, fun list and I love the fact that I vehemently disagree with so much of it lol!
I was previously in the same boat regarding not really getting the 5th Doctor. Like, he was **nice,** but that's about it. But I rewatched season 19 recently (his first season) and it dawned on me: He's an exasperated babysitter, who is absolutely sick and tired of everyone's horseshit, but is still desperately trying to keep it together. He's nice in spite of obviously wanting to knock heads, and occasionally lets that irritation through in drips and drabs in the form of sarcasm.
Unfortunately, the war doctor feels like he was unnecessary version of the doctor. Even if they couldnt get Eccleston they could have gone with McGann. Id love to see Jo Martin come back to the show in future. I dont know if Russel would do so but it would be lovely to bring her back especially cause she is magnetic
In my opinion there should never had been a War Doctor or Fugitive to begin with not only have they messed up the numbers but it now treats us like idiots that we thought it was McGann's Doctor the fought in the war which would had make more sense John Hurt is a great actor but they shouldn't had retconned him in.
@@joshuaverran9443 It's writers/showrunners wanting to make a lasting impact on the show. Ultimately, neither are anything to get excited about. Since they both have just ended up being _another_ Valeyard. A plot device for that particular season. Without Big Finish, the War Doctor plotline ceased to be after Day of the Doctor. The Fugitive Doctor plotline didn't go anywhere before or after Flux. You can stick to the numbered Doctors and it doesn't really impact the narrative.
Tom Baker's picture in the thumbnail reminds me of the popular game "Tom Baker or normal?" It requires: A minimumof two participants, each with their own phone with a working camera. You sit across from each other or in a circle, depending on the number of participants. At the command of the first participant, all the other participants close their eyes and cover them with their hands while the first participant snaps a selfie while making a face that is either "Tom Baker or normal". They then aske the other participants (who are now allowed to open/uncover their eyes) : "Tom Baker or normal?" and they have to guess what kind of face they made. The answers are noted, and the selfie is shown, and each participant who guessed correctly is awarded a point. Then it's the next participants turn to to take a selfie while the others close/cover their eyes and afterwards guess if their selfie is "Tom Baker or normal?"
Sadly, have only watched new who. So, 1. Matt Smith 2. Peter Capaldi 3. Christopher Eccleston 5. David Tennat 6. War Doctor John Hurt & Fugitive Doctor - Jo Martin .... would have loved to see more from them to decide better 7. sorry Jodie Whittaker .... but I just didnt feel as much
The 6th Doctor (my favourite Doctor) being so high in comparison to his usual place warms my heart. Colin is a fantastic actor and a wonderful choice for The Doctor and Big Finish get all my love for proving just how good he really is.
the scot docs are my 2 favs as well! (though the list is constantly shifting based on what i want to watch/read/listen to). Series ten encapsulates everything I love and understand about the Doctor perfectly, and it's a real shame people dropped off from the show after smith left. I really like hearing your assessments, though I try to stay away from these kinds of lists generally, because they tend to be exactly the same: in bottom place colin baker and in top place david tennant. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but for me those rankings are so predictable and the takes are lukewarm at best.
12 will probably always be my favourite Doctor. He's such a great actor and had the best character development. I'm upset I didn't realise how good he was at the time but I remember really loving series 10 so much from release to this day. It's such a refreshing series of who. People who dropped off before Capaldi were really missing out.
I concur when you say Peter Davison is a lovely man. I have also met him. The same day I also met Colin Baker also a really lovely man. One of his daughters is also called Lucy so we bonded over that. Also same day I met Katy Manning. The woman is mad as a box of cats but also super lovely. The three of them just had the warmest and most comforting energies about them of anyone I have ever met. Beautiful people.
If you've not done so already I highly recommend the audio Afterlife. The relationship breakdown between Ace and 7 in part 1 and a certain speech he gives at the end of the story is enough for McCoy to be my favourite Doctor. It's wonderfully written and acted.
1. Tenth Doctor 2. Eighth Doctor 3. Sixth Doctor 4. Ninth Doctor 5. Seventh Doctor 6. Twelfth Doctor 7. Eleventh Doctor 8. Third Doctor 9. Fourth Doctor 10. Second Doctor 11. First Doctor 12. Fugitive Doctor 13. War Doctor 14. Fifth Doctor 15. Thirteenth Doctor
I really like all I watched/experienced and for the longest time I refused the notion of "this or that one is MY Doctor" but then 12 came along and it changed. And yes, you said it best: the platonic ideal. He is indeed. Much love to you Vera!
My list: 15. Jodie Whitaker 14. John Hurt 13. William Hartnell 12. Jon Pertwee 11. Jo Martin 10. Colin Baker 09. David Tennant 08. Peter Davison 07. Christopher Ecelston 06. Paul McGann 05. Matt Smith 04. Tom Baker 03. Patrick Troughton 02. Sylvester McCoy And by a large margin 01. Peter Capaldi
Bottom three would have to be War Doctor, Fugitive Doctor, and 8th Doctor, all for the same reason, not enough time to have done much. Next lower three would be 5th, 6th, and 13th. I haven’t seen Big Finish, so 6th is not great. I never really connected to Davidson much, (Adric, Kamelion and Vislor are arguably the worst of all the companions) and the whole John Nathan-Turner run was bad. Whittaker for me showed signs of promise in her second season, but it seems like someone (JW? CC?) was capable of better but simple chose not to be, I wanted to like Flux because I think they tried really hard to make it good, but things outside their control prevented that. At least her specials were all really good. Middle three I would have 7th, who had nothing to work with by this point and was better than could have been expected given the circumstances. But if you remove the context of all the behind the scenes issues and just look at it on it’s own, it would be generous to say B-. Also in the middle group, for the same reason on both, are 1st and 9th. Basically the show didn’t know what it was doing, they tried some stuff, some worked and some didn’t. There are certainly highlights on both (Empty Child/Doctor Dances is #1 story of whole 60 year run, likewise from Dalek Invasion of Earth until the end of season 2 is really good before constant casting changes started to ruin things) At #6 I would have 10th, I know a lot of people love him, but I just never really connected with him and he seem to stick around too long (more on that later). #5 I have 3rd, mainly because I’ve been re-watching the classic era and he’s really, really good, other than season 11 which is absolute garbage. Seasons 7, 8, 9, and 10 are great. #4 I have 12th, another great Doctor that had some amazing episodes but fizzled out in their last season. Series 8 has Mummy on Orient Express, Series 9 has the stuff with Ashildr, and The Husbands of River Song. Then series 10 he was just kind of lost without Clara. #3 I have 4th, Tom Baker is great. From his first episode in Robot all the way up to a Key to Time is amazing (honestly the whole run of seasons 12-15 is even better than Pertwee’s 7-10). However, there are also seasons 16-18 and you can see the quality start to drop going into the nosedive that lead up to Trial of a Time Lord. #2 is my favourite 11th. I love Matt Smith, plus we get Amy and Rory and River. There is another 8 episodes after Angels Take Manhatten. Jenna Coleman as Clara has as little chemistry with Matt Smith as Elizabeth Sladen’s Sarah Jane Smith had with Jon Pertwee. Which is why #1 is Patrick Troughton’s 2nd Doctor. He has the best companion in Jamie. Once they figure things out by the Evil of the Daleks it’s strong the whole rest of the time right up to the War Games. He is the only Doctor that didn’t have a decline in his last season and he alone left at the top of his game.
[about the 11th doctor]: *"I can, at times, be prisoner of the moment"* So would you say... Prisoner of the Moment has escaped? Thank you, thank you, I'm here all day Edit - Also, re:"acting like a buffoon so the enemies underestimate" made me think of Uncle Iroh from Avatar.
To me, Capaldi's speech to Missy and The Master in The Doctor Falls is the purest distillation of who The Doctor is we've ever gotten. Tennant will probably always be MY Doctor, but Capaldi is the truest expression of The Doctor as a character in my opinion.
Thank you for articulating so well why I love Capaldi so much. His story ended eight days before my egg cracked, and I don't know if it would have without having watched and loved his journey first.
my favourite Doctor ping pongs a between Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi on a whim. I adore all of them for very different reasons. but I will say that Capaldi's portrayal feels like the most genuine and pure distillation of who The Doctor is, that we've ever seen. to the point where after Capaldi's era, all of the other incarnations feel like a mask.
I have so much trouble ranking the Doctors. I love them in all their forms and there's something about every Doctor that I think they do better than anyone else. Having said that, I do think that the First, Second, Fourth, Sixth in the audios, Seventh, Ninth and Twelfth are consistently at the higher end of my list! I should state as well that the first Doctor I saw was the First on reruns on the ABC here in Australia (still very sad we're losing broadcasting rights to Disney), but that the Ninth Doctor is properly 'my Doctor'.
It's so tough, but I agree in a lot of ways. I've not seen as much Classic Who as I'd have liked, but I've seen at least one story of each doctor. My personal ranking would be: 15. Five 14. War 13. Thirteen 12. One 11. Fugitive 10. Three 9. Six 8. Four 7. Seven 6. Eight 5. Ten 4. Nine 3. Two 2. Eleven 1. Twelve I really hope that Classic Who is also moved to Disney+ next year. I would love to experience more of the Doctors that I haven't seen much of. At the end of the day, I still think it's remarkable how over nearly 60 years, all of these performances still rink so true as being the Doctor. Every single Doctor still feels like the Doctor. I think by the very nature of how actors are put into the role, they take little aspects of each past incarnation, and that amalgamation makes them all feel like one and the same, in a deeper more meta way. Also, I love seeing Twelve at the top of your list. I would go as far as to say Capaldi is the most underrated.
Interesting rankings. For me, Tom will always be my first place, but I'm incredibly happy to see Sylvester and Peter ranked so high. Sylvester was always my second place, and then David and Matt were sort of tied for third. But Peter deserves so much love and praise because he was amazing. And maybe it's because I was so young and impressionable at the time (I was 5 or 6 when Davison took the role) but I always enjoyed the Fifth, even if his stories were often times terrible. As a funny aside, when I typed in Peter my phone suggested Cushing as the next word, so apparently my phone wishes that the Cushing films were canon. 🤣🤣🤣
After a recent rewatch of Classic and New Who, mine would have to be: 1. Paul McGann 2. Peter Capaldi 3. Matt Smith 4. Patrick Troughton 5. Peter Davison 6. Tom Baker 7. Sylvester McCoy 8. John Pertwee 9. William Hartnell 10. Colin Baker 11. John Hurt 12. Christopher Eccleston 13. Jo Martin 14. Jodie Whittaker 15. David Tennant
@@monteepython84 I just really can’t bring myself to like him. He gets all of the worst moments of RTD’s writing and self-indulgence in a way that I think Eccleston avoided. I personally don’t like RTD’s writing or characters generally (I’m more of a Moffat enjoyer) and series 2-4 just aren’t my thing. I know they’re very popular though and it’s great that so many people enjoy them, I just haven’t quite got there yet.
Capaldi is my #1 as well, I love him and his journey. Him and Bill are perfect together and they probably won't fall down my list for a long time either. Eight is my second favorite. I love his exceptional stubbornness. I remember several times in the audios where he's give a terrible choice and he's just say no, I'm not playing this game. That's why is glad he didn't come back to be the one who fought, because I love that he's The Doctor that refused to fight. Though I would have loved to see him back. I have the same issue as you with Five, but in the audios Nyssa became his definitive companion for me. I didn't even like her in the show originally, but she shines in the audios. I've rewatched her episodes afterwards, and the personality was all there, but she doesn't get enough time with the Tardis being so crowded. This experience helped me like Yaz in her first season. Thirteen ranks higher for me than you. I feel like I kind of know who she is. She's very direct, I think one of her most defining lines is "You weren't at Grace's funeral". She doesn't play the fool as much as others, instead she tries to stay focus on figuring out how she's going to win. That's why she's always repeating what's going on, to try to sum it up in the hopes of sparking that solution. Then there's the whole keeping secrets from the companions thing, which I wasn't really a fan of. I feel like it worked better want Seven did that. I would have liked it that was something she overcame by or during Flux, but I didn't see that.
TLDW: You like your Doctors with Scottish accents 🤪 (Capaldi's still my favorite too! But when I was missing Capaldi I watched Pertwee and his red velvet coat.)
As a Scot, I prefer my Doctors with Scottish accents. Which is why will never forgive RTD for making David Tennant do his Doctor with that awful English accent. Makes no sense.
I was happy to see someone ranked Sylvester as highly as I do. I put Ace/7 as the number 2 combo ever right behind Jamie and Patrick but the difference is very slim. Capaldi is my favorite new era Doctor by far but 4th on my list right behind Tom Baker. I agree with your comparison of Davidson and Whitaker also. Jodi to me seemed very much like a female Peter Davidson. I do think had Jo Martin been given a longer run though she might have cracked my to 5. Thanks for the great Video!
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Regarding the story of Jo Martin's Doctor...
There's a bit of her story revealed in the third episode of Flux. I just caught it on like my third watch. It's a very convoluted episode. Jodi plays the part in one of Jo Martin's memories so it's easy to miss.
But basically, Jo Martin's doctor used to work with Karvinista [sp?] for the Division, and she was the Commander during a previous battle on the planet time, at the temple of Atropos. The Ravagers (swarm & azure) were going to..... something, it's unclear. Pretty sure Jo Martin's doctor was who originally imprisoned the ravagers after the battle and put the mouri in place, probably at the behest of division.
It's not a lot more time with her, but I was kinda floored when I realised I was watching one of her memories.
Oh right, he was gonna reign in hell. forgot
It's really messed up to use phrases like "went native." It perpetuates the Indian savage trope and the belief that indigenous communities were/are lesser than those of their colonizers.
@@tayfay909 I thought the phrase "went native" referred to doing something as the locals would do rather than a tourist, such as use their language for instance. I can't remember what the context was though.
Just saw the context. Umm I don't see how you got the "savage trope" idea from it. Also calling them "Indians" is a lot more problematic.
I can't find a scrap of transphobia in a series that has no trans characters.
Christopher Eccelston is probably my fav. While everyone talks about how he's so angry and damaged but what I love about him is that there is such a kindness and warmth to him too. He is detached from his trauma and very blunt he also is someone you would feel comfortable talking to and would help you. Also he's very funny
Too bad about everything surrounding his tenure
An extra season or 2 would have cemented his place as the starting reboot doctor
Basically everyone started with Tennant or smith
He had one perfect season. Some of the stories were duff but Eccleston was consistently good and the perfect actor to revive the series. 👍🏻
The problem is: we know now, since Gallifrey *wasn’t* destroyed, that 9 was grumpy and moody for no reason. He could have just gone to the end of the universe and found it again. Remember? That’s why 12 didn’t find it - he went to the right place, but the wrong time.
So the same applies for nine - if he went to the right year at the end of the universe he’d find it and learn the truth.
@@Jamestopboy I don't like the gallifrey returning thing but his arc still works in the fact he just went through a war that lasted hundreds of years that would give anyone ptsd
I agree he's very funny and chirpy, and he has great banter with anyone he meets !
I'm so happy nine made it so high up. Because nine has a special place in my heart, he was of course the first Doctor that I've watched. And he pulled me in. He was somewhat melancholic, I liked his roughness. I think he has just some really stong scenes and dialogues/ monologue. Like the one about the survival of mankind. Or everybody lives. Or the tough guy act he puts on for "I'm going to save Rose Tyler" where he legitimately has a break down afterwards
You're the second person I've seen rank Peter Capaldi as number 1 and it really makes me feel better about myself wanting to have him at number 1...for me it's a toss up between 12 and 10.
7 is my all time favorite classic Doctor, for the record.
as much as i love the attitude and charisma the 10th doctor and David Tennant have, the goofiness and rage, he feels like a human pretending to be an alien, rather than an alien pretending to be human. which isn't bad, he just isn't what i want in the doctor. that's why 11 is one of my favorites. he's goofy and whimsical but gets kinda manipulative and rageful and never feels quite human despite almost making you think he is.
This ranking makes me feel so happy. Your top 3 are the same as mine. I've always been a 7th Doctor kid, growing up in the 1990's, watching old VHS videos. IMO, his 2 last seasons are the strongest of the whole classic era. They ended on a high note and I'm glad that the somewhat underrated 7th Doctor has gotten more love in latter years. Thank's for a great Channel! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Baker, McGann and Capaldi all be able to play the doctor in whatever way the writers want
Eight has grown on me a lot since I started reading the books. To be honest, he never really clicked for me on audio, be it Breathless Eight from the Charley/Lucie stuff or Leather Eight from Dark Eyes on. In the books, though, he benefits hugely from the introduction of Fitz, a companion who compliments him perfectly and brings out the best in him.
I find it hard to rank them. I love them all. My favourite is Matt Smith, but that’s only really sentimental reasons rather than anything that genuinely makes him better than the others. I’m also very partial to the earliest Doctors, Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee and Baker #1 (what can I say, I love the classics, I love that era of the show). I love the crotchety old First Doctor, the impish, Chaplin-like personality of the Second Doctor (something I like in particular about him, while with other Doctors I realise that they are putting on a front to pretend they’re just silly and weird, but are really incredibly powerful beings, Troughton’s the opposite, the power is the front with him), Pertwee’s absolute charisma, and Baker’s brilliant eccentricity. Also, Sylvester McCoy is a favourite.
Out of curiosity, where would you rank David Bradley's portrayal of the 1st doctor? Did his portrayal factor into your opinion when making this list or was your opinion purely on Hartnell's portrayal?🙂
I thought that his portrayal of the Doctor in... what was that episode... Capaldi's last episode.... was kind of off putting. From what I remember of the First Doctor he was never quite so blatantly stodgy and old fashioned as far as male and female roles and such. It seemed as a commentary more than a true characterization. Granted my memory of the First Doctor was maybe 3 or 4 stories but I think I'm right.
@@MarkEdwarMurphy you are right. though I will say, I don't blame Bradley at all for it. I think he did as good a job as he could with the material he was given. I'm really angry at Moffat for writing the first Doctor as blantantly sexist when he wasn't in the original run. Like, the REAL first Doctor literally had his view of humanity changed for the better by a woman for freaks sake!
Even the smack bottom line was not sexist in it's original context. The Doctor feeling like he could threaten Susan with that has nothing to do with her gender, and everything to do with her being his grandchild. He's disciplining a younger family member that he feels responsible for, after she caused some genuine trouble. Not to say it's not problematic still. Spanking, while perhaps seen as acceptable at the time, has since been proven a bad means of discipline. But if they were going to call it out, they should have made it clear what the actual problem with it is.
The way they did it in Twice Upon a Time makes it easy for it to be dismissed as just another sexist line, due to the Doctor being portraid as sexist before and it's not made clear why he feels he has the authority to discipline Bill, which makes it seem like it's because she's a woman. I wouldn't even be surprised if that was the intended reading of the Moffat penned version of the line, since he seems to think the First Doctor was Sexist. His reason for threating Bill with a 'smack bottom' is also ridiculous. Him thinking a grown woman should get spanked for using slightly bad language is insane.
It's especially annoying when they could have made that line work in a way that was actually true to the character. make Bill's offense worse and make him feel like he has the authority to discipline her due to her being the 12th Doctor's student (and make it clear that's the reason. nothing to do with gender) and then it you can call it out for what it actually is. Not sexist, but a problematic idea of what's an acceptable way to discipline younger family members and students.
Sorry of the rant, but I'm a massive First Doctor fan and Moffat's writing of him just pisses me off so much.
With the definitive companion I started thinking about the 10th doctor who has a different companion ever season for me it would be rose but I have a feeling a lot of people would consider it to be Donna which I do also get
Literally just made up my own version of this ranking the other day, so I thought I'd share. Now, I'm admittedly terrible at faves, so some of the rankings (especially in the 'muddy middle' where things get a bit difficult) could change at any point. But I still thought it was a fun exercise, especially after we just had a new regeneration:
DOCTORS RANKED (as of October 2022):
1. Seventh Doctor
2. Twelfth Doctor
3. TIED: Second Doctor and Eleventh Doctor
4. Fourth Doctor (heh, he's number four, I just noticed -- LOL)
5. TIED: Eighth Doctor and Tenth Doctor
6. Fifth Doctor
7. Sixth Doctor
8. First Doctor
9. Third Doctor
10. Ninth Doctor
11. Thirteenth Doctor
NOTES: Yes, I left out the War Doctor and the Jo Martin Doctor (and Handy, etc) just to make things easier. And yes, I had two ties, but I kept switching them back and forth in the ranking and I just eventually gave up because I couldn't decide which one I liked more in the spot (again, I'm terrible at faves).
Come on, the Third is as beautiful as the dawn. James Bond? Yes. But the scene in which he tells Jo about daisies and the meaning of life is probably the best thing that has ever happened in the series. In general, when he speaks in his deep voice and looks from the screen with his philosopher's eyes.... Are you sure you've watched all his seasons? I don't think so. The First. No Doctor has ever had such a strong character arch. He started out as an arrogant alien psychopath who was ready to kill a caveman with a rock. And then, thanks to human companions, he became the Doctor we know. You don't seem to know any of this.
You are wrong about Davison.... but you're so right about Capaldi that I'll let it slide 😄
So glad to see you’ve gone up a lot on McCoy. He’s def become my favorite doctor and his relationship with Ace is prob the best in the whole series
Jodi's doctor to me was a character with so much darkness they tried to hide it was humor, leaning into the confusion and her happy for lucky nature was trying to hide something so much darker. She had a fear of the timeless child from the time it was first mentioned in ghost monument. She hid it. She hid it behind a wounderlust that was very much real but also there's a hint of severe depression.
I absolutely agree. There was something definitely hiding, but her wonder of the universe was a refreshing change from some stuff before hand. I just wish they leaned into it more, as it often came across as very surface. Fingers crossed for Big Finish 🤞
For me this is my list based on the Doctor himself, the way that he is, his personality and the way that he carry’s himself, amount of time onscreen and stories are irrelevant to the list:
15. Thirteenth Doctor
14. Fugitive Doctor
13. War Doctor
12. Seventh Doctor
11. Fifth Doctor
10. First Doctor
9. Third Doctor
8. Sixth Doctor
7. Eighth Doctor
6. Twelfth Doctor
5. Second Doctor
4. Fourth Doctor
3. Eleventh Doctor
2. Ninth Doctor
1. Tenth Doctor
I always love hearing you talk about Twelve
I've grown to really like hartnell, especially the scene after Steven left. When I started watching classic I thought I'd have to go through slop until it got good with the 3rd or 4th doctor. I was very wrong
During his era Capaldi was criticized. And now he is worshipped. Jodie Whittaker's era is criticized, but to me she was a great doctor, I will miss her energy, her passion, her warmth, and how emotional she was. The flux was a great season and The Power of the Doctor was a great episode
I get what you mean about seeing someone talk about their work in person - I saw GRRM give a talk at my uni and having heard him speak, the person on the throne at the end actually makes a lot of sense
Lol imagine if Capaldi regenerated into Tennant after being like 'I can't keep on being somebody else'
I'm going to be honest, I don't get the love for Capaldi's Doctor. He's a fantastic actor, but the writing during his era was really uneven and outright bad in places. Don't get me wrong, he's still an okay Doctor (and the writing was better than the Jodie era), but was absolutely capable of being so much better and the stories and characterization of both him and his companions should have been so much stronger than it was. That's just my opinion, though.
I don't get the love either.
I could never rank them entirely but my top 4 are always Tom Baker, Peter Capaldi, Christopher Eccleston and Paul McGann. The order of such changes with my mood lol
27:08 I expect Mason Bennett and Alice O'Donnell would disagree with your assessment.
I have no idea who those people are.
@@CouncilofGeeks They're the two humans from (Under The Lake/) Before The Flood who went back in time with The Doctor, The Doctor lets O'Donnell get killed to test his theory that the "ghosts" were listing people's names in the order of their deaths. Bennett calls him out on his callous disregard for the life of anyone who wasn't Clara Oswald.
I really like that Teagan in Power of the Doctor kind of called the fifth doctor out on that.
I was SO happy to see Ace and #7 come back together in POTD!
POTD sounds like Pot D
Read it as planet of the dead ima die
Best part of that episode for me.
I only have the TV show, and I haven't been into the classics for very long, other than I've seen enough episodes of each to be able to rank them crudely
Least great to greatest. I like SOMETHING in all of them:
War Doctor / Fugitive Doctor - Not enough TV Material to make a rational judgement. No ranking
Fourteenth and Fifteenth Doctor I've seen as much as I have of the 8th doctor, but I holding off until at least a few regular episodes. If I'm being honest though, the specials have me a little puzzled as to intended audience, and they gave me a tinge of sadness, (pre-maturely, I know), that MY Doctor Who is likely going to consist of Doctors 1 - 13, going forward. I'll keep watching, and I'll do this again in a year or so, and see how I feel. Ncuti Gatwa seems like a fine actor, and likewise his new companion, but the stories I've seen so far have had very few "Doctor W1ho" moments in them, and there's just too much jiggering around with the past. I'm glad that they've started over, and that the upcoming will be season one. A whole new franchise. A clean break to see if millenials, zoomers, etc. can have their own Who, made just for them, with their kind of intrigue, comedy, emotion, etc. that's distinct from generations of the past. I have great hopes that the younger new viewers have a great time and carry their show into the ages.
So: For now anyway:
14 - Fourteenth Doctor: David Tennant (A little less than Meh for me. There just doesn't seem to be any there - there. It's a shame. Tennant's a fina actor. This is down to writing I guess.
13 - Eighth Doctor: Paul McGann (I haven't dipped into Big Finish yes, so this is all based on a TV movie. It wasn't very good, but he was, so, looking forward to trying audio stories)
12 - Sixth Doctor: Colin Baker: (No thank you. I'll see what happens if I can get into audio stories)
11 - Thirteenth Doctor: Jody Whitaker. (On rewatch I'm enjoying some of her stories a little bit more, but the writers for her series were hell bent (pardon the pun), on changing what and and who the doctor is, and I just don't can't seem to get my head and heart coordinated with this writer/showrunners vision for the show. Interestingly Chibnall wrote some episodes and stories for other doctors that were pretty darn good, but he was coloring withing the lines back then.)
10 - Seventh Doctor: Sylvester McCoy. (I expect this one to change quite a bit. Hopefully I'll get into the audio books for starters, and after listening to this COG review, I'm going to look a little closer at the TV episodes as well)
9 - First Doctor: WIlliam Hartnell: (He's the progenitor of this who shootin match, but frankly, I have some trouble staying engaged with his stories. I keep trying. I'm sure it will raise up in time.
8 - Fourth Doctor: Tom Baker (I'm guessing this guy is THE DOCTOR because of his sheer longevity. Most of the early ones I saw of his were VERY well acted, and I love his take on the Doctor, but I'm afraid as an outsider who didn't grow up with this show, these just don't hold up very well, and many of the effects are still pretty lo-fi and jokey. I think I get it with the personality though. He's really alien, but I think I like Smith and Capaldi for this aspect even more.
7 - Third Doctor: Jon Pertwee (I LIKE the James Bond Doctor. It kind of worked for me)
6 Tenth Doctor: David Tennant (Very enjoyable doctor. I could have maybe done without the romance with Rose. Not really Doctorish. Some of my favorite stories of all time though had Doctor 10 and even Rose. So I know how hypocritical this sounds. It is what it is.
5 - Ninth Doctor: Chris Eccleston (A little better 10th doctor with not nearly enough episodes to get his full potential across.
4 - Second Doctor: Patrick Troughton (For all of everyone elses reason. This guy is the goods. It's a shame we don't have more of his TV Stories. He may even be higher)
3 - Fifth Doctor: Peter Davison (Yep. What can I say. When my wife and I were going through classic stories, we both alit on Five, and said let's watch all of his. Something about him just grabbed both of us. I find him quirky, and alien with a 3d chess type of sense of humor that I fear some detractors just don't get. I think he's really an extension of Tom Baker in a lot of ways, but with a new set of quirks. But he does it better consistently. Whereas Baker, who was probably just on too long, lost a lot of his oomph towards the end.
2 - Eleventh Doctor: Matt Smith Next down from 12/Clara is 11/Amy. And no that far down Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi played human loving, but alien aliens better than anyone imho, including the classic doctors. 11 and 12 are just my jams. What can I say?
1 - Twelfth Doctor: Peter Capaldi (Absolutely everything I could ask for from a Doctor in any era. The Pairing of 12 and Clara, and their arc together is my favorite episodic television of all time. Laughing, Crying, and thinking all the way. I don't even eat pears anymore. My only piece of Doctor Who swag is a T-shirt of 12 and Clara crossing the famous Abbey Road crosswalk in London with 2 Daleks)
Just realised that we are now in a time where there are more nuwho doctors than there are old who doctors
1) Eleventh Doctor
2) Twelfth Doctor
3) Forth Doctor
4) Seventh Doctor
5) Second Doctor
6) Ninth Doctor
7) Eighth Doctor
8) Third Doctor
9) Sixth Doctor
10) Tenth Doctor
11) First Doctor
12) Fifth Doctor
13) Thirteenth Doctor
I can't really fairly put War or Fugitive on the list as they aren't around enough to compare them to other Doctors.
I belive if a Doctor havent got their lead role on screen, they shouldn't be on top lists neither. I still dont know what would Doctor Who be like if John Hurts Doctor got a series or his own movie bc it never happened. Therefore i cant compare him to the others.
@@katokianimation yeah I actually really love the War Doctor, thought John Hurt brought such a gravitas to the role but it's unfair to judge on one episode
I agree. The non numbers are fun encounters, but should be left off the grading scale.
Great list & esp great reasoning! Can’t argue at all, though haven’t listened to any Big Finish with 6, obvs gotta do that & made a note. For me most of Clara put a damper on her Doctors. She just didn’t work for me, though I know she meant a lot to many. So, no complaining/arguing. Capaldi was my fave overall, I like an oldish grumpy doctor I guess, and with Bill though the stories weren’t all great, they are still my favorite pair.
Eccleston & esp Smith eps still work best as rewatches for me (usually my touchstone to remind me what I really do like) but if you include classics, the 4th is superior in every way, esp the Douglas Adams era. That was weird indeed, in the best possible way. Honestly Shada is my favorite story, love the remake, the novel (never mind the pauthor) and Adams’s retelling via Dirk Gently.
Since you asked:
7 (There's a fundamental darkness to this portrayal due to his being willing to manipulate all of time and space in order to ensure that falls when he chooses to encounter them that I love to see when it comes up. The trickster hero is something we don't see often, more usually seeing that archetype in mentor or and I am here for it. I think perhaps the New Adventures went too far with it - Survival I think works better if he pulls back on the manipulative stuff, at least for how he relates to his companions, seeing the Master... Pull that same manipulation on his pseudo-companion in that story that he was doing on the regular - even in a role as a mentor figure.)
12 ("The man who defeats the monsters" - Pragmatic to a fault. A journey of learning to be kind despite the pragmatism, and anxious that the pragmatism he immediately saw when he regenerated meant he wasn't a good man. Probably the Doctor I'd trust most not because he's more likely to save me, but because if he realized he couldn't he'd be most likely to use my death to save others, and I don't know why but I find that more reassuring than, for example, 10's fake platitudes, and I think that applies even at the end of his journey)
6 (Not as much due to the audios as for a lot of people, but the audios, and what little comics and novels I've read with him, are definitely doing a lot of work here. Weirdly not my favourite role to see Colin Baker play. In Doctor Who. His performance as Frobisher in The Maltese Penguin makes that audio short.)
4 (While not my favourite Doctor, probably the Doctor I envision when I envision a default Doctor a lot. Tom Baker's charisma is doing a lot, but there's an understated dry humour to him in the writing of the Hinchcliffe era that morphs into a delightful aloof silliness beyond it that I love watching.)
9 (Charisma, an awkward sense of comedy that feels as much him putting on a front to cover his wounds as anything else. He's a damaged Doctor, and it shows in the performance throughout, right up until "Coward, any day.")
8 (The Romantic Doctor. Not as in romance in the modern sense (Although I think 8/Charlie is the only Doctor/companion romance that's on screen - so to speak - and I like), but as in an adoration of life itself)
11 (I don't have much to say about 11, weirdly, despite liking his characterization a ton.)
Fugitive (From what we see of her, she has a commanding presence. And for me, at the moment, that's doing far more than it probably should be.)
13 (For me, 13's Doctor is 5 done well. And with less of the ineffectual snark.)
2 (Everything I love about 7, but less prominent. Also I just haven't seen that much of his stuff because UK Gold's repeats, which is how I've seen most of what I've seen of 1 and 2, had an allergy to the black and white episodes so usually started their runs from the third Doctor. Will likely go up as I see more of his stories.)
10 (This one's weird. I like his licking obsession in S2. I like the darkness that's present right from The Christmas Invasion... But only really seen in hints in The Christmas Invasion, New Earth, School Reunion, and The Runaway Bride, and then pretty much not seen again until . I want to interpret the 'most human' as you put it side of it as a cover for his companion but there's so much of that and so little of the dark thread underpinning it that it's a struggle to view it as a front he put on for his companions and, in particular, Rose.)
5 (Again, good, but doesn't do anything for me but Caves of Androzani is pulling a lot of weight for me there)
1 (He's good, but... Doesn't really do anything for me. Might be due to how little of 1 I've seen because )
War (Waste of an opportunity, since he's more or less a framing device in his screen role. Hurt's wonderful with what he's given, mind)
3 (Jon Pertwee's wonderful in the part, it's my second favourite of his roles for him that I've seen (...Granted the #1 there has a very heavy dose of nostalgia - He's the VA of Spotty in Super Ted which I was airing in repeats when I was the absolute perfect age for Super Ted) but there are various things about how 3's written that just rubs me entirely the wrong way that I don't see this consistently from any other Doctor.)
Are you going to Gallifrey one this year?? Really hoping you get to meet Jodie one day she is so lovely!
Capaldi still being top is what I came for
13:07 would you prefer David homeowner
this is why i love doctor who and its fan base we all have different opinions on each doctor but can love the show
Capaldi,Troughton, Sylvester , Tom, and Jon at the top. David 1,Matt, Peter,Hartnell , Chris in the middle, then Colin and McGann after that. Then in the pit of hell hopefully never to be seen again, Jodie. (JO Martin and The Timeless Abomination don't count in my book.butshe is still light years ahead of Jodie)
I was wondering if you’ll do a reranking after the specials next year since David Tennant will be playing the 14th doctor
I'll have to decide if I consider him 14th or an extension of the 10th first. And I won't be able to make up my mind on that until I see them.
Hmmm it's tough for me as I think ALL of them are brilliant, there is yet to be a "Bad" Doctor, so even my last place I still love - each and every incarnation is THE Doctor and I love them all
So here's my ranking:
Capaldi
McCoy
Troughton
Whittaker
Eccleston
Tennant
Smith
T Baker
Hartnell
Davison
Pertwee
C Baker
McGann
Martin
Hurt
I was not sold on the instant "fam" thing with Jodie Whittaker's Doctor.
My ranking (worst to best):
Sylvester McCoy*
Colin Baker (TV)
Jodi Whittaker
Peter Capaldi
William Harnell
Paul McGann*
Jon Pertwee
Peter Davison*
Colin Baker (Big Finish)
Christopher Eccleston
Matt Smith
Patrick Troughton
David Tennant
Tom Baker
*Both TV and Big Finish
I've only listened to a couple of Tom Baker's Big Finish stories, and while I thought he was rather weak in them, they're not much to judge from, and maybe he got better as he got in the swing of things, so I'm pretty much just ignoring them. As for Paul McGann, I remember thinking he was the best thing about that terrible TV movie, but I haven't seen it in long enough that I'm mostly just judging him by his Big Finish Stuff.
The War Doctor and Fugitive Doctor don't count; they're not real Doctors... not that I would rank either particularly highly anyway. The Fugitive Doctor has zero charisma and not much more personality, and as for the War Doctor, they cast somebody who is physically incapable due to age... as a warrior (and when they had a perfectly capable Paul McGann who they could've featured rather than shoehorning in a whole new incarnation for the sake of single episode).
Oh, and I disagree with the Big Finish episodes you chose to hype the Sixth Doctor. "Holy Terror" is, indeed, a good episode, but not very Doctor-centric, and "Jubilee" is dramatically overrated. Of the ones I've heard, I'd go with "Urgent Calls". I may also be something of an outlier on this, but I'm not actually a big fan of Evelyn Smythe, and prefer it when he's paired with somebody else (or no one at all).
Yes, I feel kind of lame putting the 4th and 10th Doctors at the top, but that's honestly how I feel, and I think they're popular/iconic for a reason.
Oh wow. I've been typing this as I watched your video, and I'm only now coming to the end and realizing that your two favorite Doctors are both ones I don't particularly care for. Capaldi's Doctor just doesn't click with me, and I honestly find it difficult to get past my dislike of the 7th Doctor in order to enjoy his Big Finish adventures (his TV stories were awful enough on their own that I don't know how much he was bringing them down). Actually, there's another thing McCoy and Capaldi have in common: I walked away from the show partway through both of their eras. (I did eventually go back many years later and watch through all of classic Who, but I still haven't gotten back to Capaldi.)
I agree with you about the 5th Doctor's companions. In many ways, I think Davison's Doctor and Pertwee's are reverse of each other. I like the personality of the 5th Doctor, but he doesn't have much of a dynamic with anybody (TV or Big Finish). Meanwhile, the 3rd Doctor's personality isn't one that I'm naturally drawn to, but he has some great character dynamics, especially with the Master and the Brigadier.
Capaldi is higher than smith? sorry but I have to respectfully disagree, also that does not make sense with your claim on tennant being "too human" because capaldi was the most "human" doctor in my book (besides some quirks) but... his run brought us Missy who is so... fine... hey missy!
Capaldi is my favourite and that's the best thing you can disagree all you want but it's an opinion not a fact just like you liking matt Smith is also only an opinion and not a fact
@@mads-Riley-Art if you check my sentence I did not state that as a fact/given or even an answer as a fan, it was my opinion also it had the "respectfully disagree" in it... so... yeah I disagreed respectfully ... My point still stands all the "quirks" that capaldi gave to the doctor were actually human... some of them were fun some of them were cringy... it happens.
I'm currently working my way through classic Who and have just started on the Fourth Doctor's era, so my ranking based on the Doctors I've seen so far (excluding War and Fugitive since there's not enough onscreen material to really get a feel for them) are:
1. Twelfth Doctor
2. Ninth Doctor
3. Second Doctor
4. Eleventh Doctor
5. First Doctor
6. Tenth Doctor
7. Third Doctor
8. Thirteenth Doctor
Capaldi is my Doctor. Glad to see the top spot :)
The ninth doctor is and always will be my favourite
Something to think about. 🤔 Tom Baker is still my guy. Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, Capaldi. I have new a new lens to view the original docs.
You're top 2 are my personal favorites, so definitely gonna give you a pass for 5 and 13 landing where they do.
Would you ever consider doing a doctor-era ranking?
Not until I’ve gotten through more, if not all of, the classics.
Capaldi's Doctor, to me, is everything the Doctor is personified to perfection, and I can't imagine someone doing it better than him (but I'd love to be proven wrong). The only thing I wish was that we got more of him before he went.
And some of the stories weren’t written well
He was always the highlight but that bar wasn’t always that hard to clear
@@FreeTheDonbas He did have the "scale model of war" speech though.
I still hope that he would appear in Big Finish
@@jmurray1110 Writing, writing, writing. Matters so much! Glad Vera made that differentiation, but it really matters so much.
@@jmurray1110 Personally I would say the quality of his era is underrated. Yes there are duds but overall I think it's a very strong era
I don't know that anyone will ever knock Matt Smith from being number one in my eyes, but I love Capaldi and this is a great list! I love hearing people's different rankings and perspectives, it often makes me notice and appreciate new things about each doctor that hadn't really crossed my mind before.
Jodie’s last words “tag you’re it” was the moment I finally understood who her doctor was. She was about all optimism (sometimes to a fault) and childlike wonder. She was the happy go lucky doctor but she hid a darker side, hence her tendency to sometimes distance herself from her companions when dealing with real emotions
you just described the 11th doctor
@@QuackUp I feel like his doctor was more whacky and whimsical in my opinion, he was more the childish Doctor (not a negative opinion) whereas 13 more focuses on the wonder of that
But it took her ENTIRE RUN to understand that. :(
@@sabalomglitz6478 😭 hoping big finish can fill some gaps
@@QuackUp they are very similar
The Tenth Doctor is mine, and probably always will be--but I thought your breakdown was spot on. I loved in 10 the moments that the alienness peeked through and you saw who he really was underneath the congenial veneer. His eyes would just go flat and there would be all of eternity in there. Matt is probably a close second and Peter third, I didn't connect with him until that last season, but his relationship with Missy and Bill was FANTASTIC.
It's funny, the only story wherein I liked the 10th's characterisation was Human Nature/Family of Blood. Which is quintessential 7th Doctor.
@@FreeTheDonbas Why gatekeep? Seems very unnecessary.
I hated Peter Capaldi's Doctor. He was insecure, misanthropic, sociopathic and a disgrace to the Doctor's core character. It was like if the Valeyard was an actual regeneration. However, Michael Jayston was INTENTIONALLY stomping all over the Doctor's core principles. Peter Capaldi did it through sheer incompetence.
If I didn't care so much about Clara Oswald, I would have never reached the end of Season 8. I only tuned in for Season 9 because she stayed to help Capaldi clean up his own mess. I never wanted Clara to leave but I couldn't wait to get rid of Capaldi. Hell, I probably would have cheered if she literally had slapped him into his next regeneration.
The thing I hate most is the awareness that Seasons 8 and 9 had the potential to be incredible. They had so many aspects that should have easily put them among the greatest eras in Doctor Who's entire history but Peter Capaldi dragged them down. I'd actually be more forgiving if Seasons 8 and 9 had just been bad seasons. Instead, they were great seasons with a bad Doctor.
@@tomnorton4277You even watch the Fourth Doctor of the Gothic era?
McCoy was my first doctor and I love him above all others. The character of Ace and their relationship meant the world to me.
Rememberance of the Daleks is one of my favourite series. I just loved the relationship between Ace and Seven as well.
McCoy is definitely my favourite Classic Doctor.
Seven is my Doctor as well! 😊
1. Peter Capaldi
2. Tom Baker
3. Matt Smith
4. Christopher Eccleston
5. Colin Baker
6. Jon Pertwee
7. Jo Martin
8. Paul McGann
9. John Hurt
10. Sylvester McCoy
11. David Tennant
12. Patrick Troughton
13. William Hartnell
14. Peter Davison
15. Jodie Whittaker
Ooh, very close to mine… few swaps, but nice one!
It's a pleasure to see the Seventh Doctor getting a little love. The dark, mischevious and manipulative chess master, perfectly contrasted by a familial teacher/student bond with Ace, the explosive teenage rebel. They're total opposites in almost every way, yet completely inseperable - from cute and caring moments to bitter arguments over their differences. They have such great chemistry, helped by being such close friends in real life. It was great to see them together one more time in Power of the Doctor.
Matt Smith's Doctor is still my #1. I admit I had a hard time warming up to Capaldi's Doctor because it was such a jarring change, but with time he has grown on me...
I felt liturally the same. After Matt Smith left i hated that the Doctor isnt wihmsy a young man who deliveres jokes perfectly but ages 1000 years. in a second if he is pushed to the edge, anymore. But now i see him ass a great Doctor for very different reasons why i loved 11. Also the fact that Moffat got really tired at this point didn't help.
I cut Peter Davison a lot of slack: he had to replace Tom Baker. That in itself was an intimidating task. And his Doctor is, by necessity, very different. The intention was to make him stand away from Baker, and I think that was correct. I liked his slightly unsure, fairly vulnerable character, prone to error, paying for them. I felt, at the time, that he had some very good stories (it's been decades and I no longer remember them, but I do remember how I felt watching him). I think it's hard for people not having lived through the actual transition, to appreciate what Davison had to do - figure Troughton multiplied. It was hard, He did well. I personally would place him higher than very bottom.
My top 3 I cant differentiate genuinely are 10,11&12.
I know 10 feels so human but I like to think that’s the guilt from the time war, he met rose after the time war and for the first time felt happiness again and purpose again and that was through a human and so wanted to connected with humanity even more and was jealous of humanities simplicity compared to time lords. I think family of blood really summed that up for me- when John Smith says how the thought of love didn’t even cross the doctors mind in the plan. The 10th doctor wants love, whether that be romantic with rose or platonically with Donna and he only seemed capable of it as a human so he acts human like.
11 was a fresh start for the doctor. He went through so much as 10 and so when the first person he met as 11 was a child he learnt to have fun again. He craves that naivety and just relaxing and that’s bc the first person he met was a kid. After all the loss 10 experienced, he wanted a family a stable family that was his and so met the ponds and was happy. But there was that darkness he carried with him, he kept the trauma with him but he’d finally learned how to not move on but have a clean start and keep the childlikeness he craved when he met a child for the first time at the front of his life but still had that old soul and darkness with him. Ugh perfection
12 was then just so special as a doctor. He realised towards of the end of 11 that he wasn’t human and so it felt like with 12, he accepted it and stopped trying to fit in. He had that old soul but the kindest soul, he stopped letting people have excuses for the way they acted and held them responsible for their actions. He didn’t hide his disgust and he didn’t want to fit in anymore. He just wanted to help who he could. Ugh capaldi NAILED it.
I feel like I rank 11th Doctor - my favourite Doctor - and the 7th Doctor highly for the same reason - I really dig the slightly Machiavellian and dark side of the character. Where he conceals things or pushes things in a certain direction For example, The Curse of Fenric and God Complex both even go as far as them purposely breaking their companion's faith in him for a moment. It's emotional manipulation which of course can be skeevy but it saves the day. And how they have a darkness in them, a storm brewing, a mood sometimes, but ultimately are the friend and hero still. Smith's Doctor, to me, is a mix of Troughton's and McCoy's too, which helps.
Exactly! I just posted a similar comment. You can definitely see some 2 and 7 in the 11th! 11 is my second favorite modern Doctor. I thought Matt Smith did an excellent job portraying a very “old soul” in a young body!
@@rainbeau88 Indeed! He's also my favourite of the modern era!
1. Tom Baker/Peter Capaldi
2. Patrick Troughton
3. Jon Pertwee
4. William Hartnell
5. Paul McGann
6. Matt Smith
7. David Tennant
8. John Hurt
9. Christopher Eccleston
10. Sylvester McCoy
11. Jo Martin
12. Colin Baker
13. Jodie Whittaker
14. Peter Davison
4th Doctor. Iconic FOUR a reason! Loved that!
Ok I am going to have to listen to Big Finish with #6. I HATE him. Would like to have that change.
Start with the Marion conspiracy, then if you enjoy that go to jubilee.
Doctor Who and the Pirates is a great place to get an idea of how good 6th Doctor can be
@@maxhurst3423 love it!
Probably likely to change but for now:
Turns out I actually agree with most of your rankings
15)The War Doctor-John Hurt
14)The 5th Doctor-Peter Davison
13)The 13th Doctor-Jodie Whittaker
12)The Fugitive Doctor-Jo Martin
11)The 1st Doctor-William Hartnell
10)The 3rd Doctor-John Pertwee
9)The 8th Doctor-Paul McGann
8)The 6th Doctor-Colin Baker
7)The 11th Doctor-Matt Smith
6)The 9th Doctor-Christopher Eccleston
5)The 7th Doctor-Sylvester McCoy
4)The 10th Doctor-David Tennant
3)The 2nd Doctor-Patrick Troughton
2)The 4th Doctor-Tom Baker
1)The 12th Doctor-Peter Capaldi
This list is heresy! And thats what I love about Doctor Who! How everyone has personal reasons for ranking their favorite Doctors. With me I came into the show at the end of Tom Bakers era at an age where I was too young to really understand what was going on and also with the idea that he had been the Doctor forever, but then really grew up with the fifth Doctor so while he may not be so high on my list of favorites I have a real love for a lot of the stories of that era. Then of course as I got a little older I was able to really appreciate the seventh Doctor who was my favorite for years, having experienced the hearbreaking 'end' of the series with him. Have to say as in OG fan David Tennant actually replaced him though as my overall favorite, to the point that I am sort of biased against Matt Smith simply for replacing him. Anyway, fun list and I love the fact that I vehemently disagree with so much of it lol!
I deeply appreciate the 9th Doctor recognition. He means so much to me, and Eccleston is so good.
I was previously in the same boat regarding not really getting the 5th Doctor. Like, he was **nice,** but that's about it. But I rewatched season 19 recently (his first season) and it dawned on me: He's an exasperated babysitter, who is absolutely sick and tired of everyone's horseshit, but is still desperately trying to keep it together. He's nice in spite of obviously wanting to knock heads, and occasionally lets that irritation through in drips and drabs in the form of sarcasm.
Unfortunately, the war doctor feels like he was unnecessary version of the doctor. Even if they couldnt get Eccleston they could have gone with McGann. Id love to see Jo Martin come back to the show in future. I dont know if Russel would do so but it would be lovely to bring her back especially cause she is magnetic
War Doctor should have been McGann. The change to his characterisation, justified by the lengths he had to go through in the Time War.
In my opinion there should never had been a War Doctor or Fugitive to begin with not only have they messed up the numbers but it now treats us like idiots that we thought it was McGann's Doctor the fought in the war which would had make more sense John Hurt is a great actor but they shouldn't had retconned him in.
@@joshuaverran9443 It's writers/showrunners wanting to make a lasting impact on the show. Ultimately, neither are anything to get excited about. Since they both have just ended up being _another_ Valeyard. A plot device for that particular season. Without Big Finish, the War Doctor plotline ceased to be after Day of the Doctor. The Fugitive Doctor plotline didn't go anywhere before or after Flux.
You can stick to the numbered Doctors and it doesn't really impact the narrative.
Tom Baker's picture in the thumbnail reminds me of the popular game "Tom Baker or normal?" It requires: A minimumof two participants, each with their own phone with a working camera. You sit across from each other or in a circle, depending on the number of participants. At the command of the first participant, all the other participants close their eyes and cover them with their hands while the first participant snaps a selfie while making a face that is either "Tom Baker or normal". They then aske the other participants (who are now allowed to open/uncover their eyes) : "Tom Baker or normal?" and they have to guess what kind of face they made. The answers are noted, and the selfie is shown, and each participant who guessed correctly is awarded a point. Then it's the next participants turn to to take a selfie while the others close/cover their eyes and afterwards guess if their selfie is "Tom Baker or normal?"
That is such an extremely specific game. 😂😂
Sadly, have only watched new who. So,
1. Matt Smith
2. Peter Capaldi
3. Christopher Eccleston
5. David Tennat
6. War Doctor John Hurt & Fugitive Doctor - Jo Martin .... would have loved to see more from them to decide better
7. sorry Jodie Whittaker .... but I just didnt feel as much
Big Finish is going to be doing an Audio Drama with the War Doctor and The Fugitive Doctor on an adventure together.
This list is so chaotic and I love it but at the same time I’m emotionally scarred from having 5 so low on the list ahhh the conflict!
This 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The 6th Doctor (my favourite Doctor) being so high in comparison to his usual place warms my heart. Colin is a fantastic actor and a wonderful choice for The Doctor and Big Finish get all my love for proving just how good he really is.
the scot docs are my 2 favs as well! (though the list is constantly shifting based on what i want to watch/read/listen to). Series ten encapsulates everything I love and understand about the Doctor perfectly, and it's a real shame people dropped off from the show after smith left. I really like hearing your assessments, though I try to stay away from these kinds of lists generally, because they tend to be exactly the same: in bottom place colin baker and in top place david tennant. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but for me those rankings are so predictable and the takes are lukewarm at best.
12 will probably always be my favourite Doctor. He's such a great actor and had the best character development. I'm upset I didn't realise how good he was at the time but I remember really loving series 10 so much from release to this day. It's such a refreshing series of who. People who dropped off before Capaldi were really missing out.
I concur when you say Peter Davison is a lovely man. I have also met him. The same day I also met Colin Baker also a really lovely man. One of his daughters is also called Lucy so we bonded over that. Also same day I met Katy Manning. The woman is mad as a box of cats but also super lovely. The three of them just had the warmest and most comforting energies about them of anyone I have ever met. Beautiful people.
If you've not done so already I highly recommend the audio Afterlife. The relationship breakdown between Ace and 7 in part 1 and a certain speech he gives at the end of the story is enough for McCoy to be my favourite Doctor. It's wonderfully written and acted.
1. Tenth Doctor
2. Eighth Doctor
3. Sixth Doctor
4. Ninth Doctor
5. Seventh Doctor
6. Twelfth Doctor
7. Eleventh Doctor
8. Third Doctor
9. Fourth Doctor
10. Second Doctor
11. First Doctor
12. Fugitive Doctor
13. War Doctor
14. Fifth Doctor
15. Thirteenth Doctor
I really like all I watched/experienced and for the longest time I refused the notion of "this or that one is MY Doctor" but then 12 came along and it changed. And yes, you said it best: the platonic ideal. He is indeed.
Much love to you Vera!
David Tennant’s at the top for me, because of that human element/dark streak
god i love capaldi i need more series 10
My list:
15. Jodie Whitaker
14. John Hurt
13. William Hartnell
12. Jon Pertwee
11. Jo Martin
10. Colin Baker
09. David Tennant
08. Peter Davison
07. Christopher Ecelston
06. Paul McGann
05. Matt Smith
04. Tom Baker
03. Patrick Troughton
02. Sylvester McCoy
And by a large margin
01. Peter Capaldi
A big 👍 for placing 13 on the last place
Matt smith and Peter Capaldi are my top two, i highly approve of your list, i loved your respect for number 7 and 2
Bottom three would have to be War Doctor, Fugitive Doctor, and 8th Doctor, all for the same reason, not enough time to have done much.
Next lower three would be 5th, 6th, and 13th. I haven’t seen Big Finish, so 6th is not great. I never really connected to Davidson much, (Adric, Kamelion and Vislor are arguably the worst of all the companions) and the whole John Nathan-Turner run was bad. Whittaker for me showed signs of promise in her second season, but it seems like someone (JW? CC?) was capable of better but simple chose not to be, I wanted to like Flux because I think they tried really hard to make it good, but things outside their control prevented that. At least her specials were all really good.
Middle three I would have 7th, who had nothing to work with by this point and was better than could have been expected given the circumstances. But if you remove the context of all the behind the scenes issues and just look at it on it’s own, it would be generous to say B-. Also in the middle group, for the same reason on both, are 1st and 9th. Basically the show didn’t know what it was doing, they tried some stuff, some worked and some didn’t. There are certainly highlights on both (Empty Child/Doctor Dances is #1 story of whole 60 year run, likewise from Dalek Invasion of Earth until the end of season 2 is really good before constant casting changes started to ruin things)
At #6 I would have 10th, I know a lot of people love him, but I just never really connected with him and he seem to stick around too long (more on that later).
#5 I have 3rd, mainly because I’ve been re-watching the classic era and he’s really, really good, other than season 11 which is absolute garbage. Seasons 7, 8, 9, and 10 are great.
#4 I have 12th, another great Doctor that had some amazing episodes but fizzled out in their last season. Series 8 has Mummy on Orient Express, Series 9 has the stuff with Ashildr, and The Husbands of River Song. Then series 10 he was just kind of lost without Clara.
#3 I have 4th, Tom Baker is great. From his first episode in Robot all the way up to a Key to Time is amazing (honestly the whole run of seasons 12-15 is even better than Pertwee’s 7-10). However, there are also seasons 16-18 and you can see the quality start to drop going into the nosedive that lead up to Trial of a Time Lord.
#2 is my favourite 11th. I love Matt Smith, plus we get Amy and Rory and River. There is another 8 episodes after Angels Take Manhatten. Jenna Coleman as Clara has as little chemistry with Matt Smith as Elizabeth Sladen’s Sarah Jane Smith had with Jon Pertwee.
Which is why #1 is Patrick Troughton’s 2nd Doctor. He has the best companion in Jamie. Once they figure things out by the Evil of the Daleks it’s strong the whole rest of the time right up to the War Games. He is the only Doctor that didn’t have a decline in his last season and he alone left at the top of his game.
[about the 11th doctor]: *"I can, at times, be prisoner of the moment"*
So would you say... Prisoner of the Moment has escaped? Thank you, thank you, I'm here all day
Edit - Also, re:"acting like a buffoon so the enemies underestimate" made me think of Uncle Iroh from Avatar.
To me, Capaldi's speech to Missy and The Master in The Doctor Falls is the purest distillation of who The Doctor is we've ever gotten. Tennant will probably always be MY Doctor, but Capaldi is the truest expression of The Doctor as a character in my opinion.
Thank you for articulating so well why I love Capaldi so much. His story ended eight days before my egg cracked, and I don't know if it would have without having watched and loved his journey first.
I don't count War and Fugitive as they are side Doctors not series leads.
Capaldi is the best doctor. As we grow up and change we relate to him more and more.
my favourite Doctor ping pongs a between Eccleston, Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi on a whim. I adore all of them for very different reasons. but I will say that Capaldi's portrayal feels like the most genuine and pure distillation of who The Doctor is, that we've ever seen. to the point where after Capaldi's era, all of the other incarnations feel like a mask.
I have so much trouble ranking the Doctors. I love them in all their forms and there's something about every Doctor that I think they do better than anyone else. Having said that, I do think that the First, Second, Fourth, Sixth in the audios, Seventh, Ninth and Twelfth are consistently at the higher end of my list! I should state as well that the first Doctor I saw was the First on reruns on the ABC here in Australia (still very sad we're losing broadcasting rights to Disney), but that the Ninth Doctor is properly 'my Doctor'.
It's so tough, but I agree in a lot of ways. I've not seen as much Classic Who as I'd have liked, but I've seen at least one story of each doctor. My personal ranking would be:
15. Five
14. War
13. Thirteen
12. One
11. Fugitive
10. Three
9. Six
8. Four
7. Seven
6. Eight
5. Ten
4. Nine
3. Two
2. Eleven
1. Twelve
I really hope that Classic Who is also moved to Disney+ next year. I would love to experience more of the Doctors that I haven't seen much of. At the end of the day, I still think it's remarkable how over nearly 60 years, all of these performances still rink so true as being the Doctor. Every single Doctor still feels like the Doctor. I think by the very nature of how actors are put into the role, they take little aspects of each past incarnation, and that amalgamation makes them all feel like one and the same, in a deeper more meta way.
Also, I love seeing Twelve at the top of your list. I would go as far as to say Capaldi is the most underrated.
putting jo martin directly after jodie is foul
Glad to see 7 above 4. Definitely my favourite classic Doctor 👍
Christopher Eccleston is by far the most underrated doctor
Interesting rankings. For me, Tom will always be my first place, but I'm incredibly happy to see Sylvester and Peter ranked so high. Sylvester was always my second place, and then David and Matt were sort of tied for third. But Peter deserves so much love and praise because he was amazing. And maybe it's because I was so young and impressionable at the time (I was 5 or 6 when Davison took the role) but I always enjoyed the Fifth, even if his stories were often times terrible.
As a funny aside, when I typed in Peter my phone suggested Cushing as the next word, so apparently my phone wishes that the Cushing films were canon. 🤣🤣🤣
After a recent rewatch of Classic and New Who, mine would have to be:
1. Paul McGann
2. Peter Capaldi
3. Matt Smith
4. Patrick Troughton
5. Peter Davison
6. Tom Baker
7. Sylvester McCoy
8. John Pertwee
9. William Hartnell
10. Colin Baker
11. John Hurt
12. Christopher Eccleston
13. Jo Martin
14. Jodie Whittaker
15. David Tennant
Tennant last? How come? (disclaimer: he isnt in my top 3 either)
@@monteepython84 I just really can’t bring myself to like him. He gets all of the worst moments of RTD’s writing and self-indulgence in a way that I think Eccleston avoided. I personally don’t like RTD’s writing or characters generally (I’m more of a Moffat enjoyer) and series 2-4 just aren’t my thing. I know they’re very popular though and it’s great that so many people enjoy them, I just haven’t quite got there yet.
@@nocturne8333 Gotcha. Me too, I love the Moffat era. And I like the mystery box arcs, respectfully disagreeing with out host here ;)
Capaldi is my #1 as well, I love him and his journey. Him and Bill are perfect together and they probably won't fall down my list for a long time either.
Eight is my second favorite. I love his exceptional stubbornness. I remember several times in the audios where he's give a terrible choice and he's just say no, I'm not playing this game. That's why is glad he didn't come back to be the one who fought, because I love that he's The Doctor that refused to fight. Though I would have loved to see him back.
I have the same issue as you with Five, but in the audios Nyssa became his definitive companion for me. I didn't even like her in the show originally, but she shines in the audios. I've rewatched her episodes afterwards, and the personality was all there, but she doesn't get enough time with the Tardis being so crowded. This experience helped me like Yaz in her first season.
Thirteen ranks higher for me than you. I feel like I kind of know who she is. She's very direct, I think one of her most defining lines is "You weren't at Grace's funeral". She doesn't play the fool as much as others, instead she tries to stay focus on figuring out how she's going to win. That's why she's always repeating what's going on, to try to sum it up in the hopes of sparking that solution. Then there's the whole keeping secrets from the companions thing, which I wasn't really a fan of. I feel like it worked better want Seven did that. I would have liked it that was something she overcame by or during Flux, but I didn't see that.
The 11th doctor is, and will always be my favourite Doctor.
TLDW: You like your Doctors with Scottish accents 🤪
(Capaldi's still my favorite too! But when I was missing Capaldi I watched Pertwee and his red velvet coat.)
As a Scot, I prefer my Doctors with Scottish accents. Which is why will never forgive RTD for making David Tennant do his Doctor with that awful English accent. Makes no sense.
I was happy to see someone ranked Sylvester as highly as I do. I put Ace/7 as the number 2 combo ever right behind Jamie and Patrick but the difference is very slim. Capaldi is my favorite new era Doctor by far but 4th on my list right behind Tom Baker. I agree with your comparison of Davidson and Whitaker also. Jodi to me seemed very much like a female Peter Davidson. I do think had Jo Martin been given a longer run though she might have cracked my to 5. Thanks for the great Video!
Oh, you should definitely do a list of best eras. 😊