And then they justify the body checks by going, “I’m just vlogging my day, I never said eat like me to get my body!!!” They’re really saying this with a straight face LOL. You’re showcasing what you eat and you end and start the video with a body check. They really think the critics are stupid. Your average person doesn’t obsessively look in the mirror on a regular basis, let alone film themselves doing it.
True although many different people do different diets ans body checks. And lets be real the skinny ones with healthy msucles and a little fat and a nice tan...theyre eating healthy. The chubby bubbies are eating the burgers and the pizza and etc. Its not that weird that a healthy diet might create a healthy body. I mean thats sort of the point. And looking at a healthy body is intuitively healthy. Hot beautiful people are healthy.
@@Padraigp ummm you realise people with 'ideal' bodies can be unhealthy in the way they eat and approach food too. This isn't the take you think it is. Also just because you eat healthy doesn't mean you're going to look like a supermodel, every body is different and unique, a healthy body doesn't usually look like a victoria secret model's. Having a little body fat doesn't equal unhealthy. Also not advocating for people to eat junk all day but come on now. "Hot beautiful people are healthy" red flag love.
@Padraigp you realize that you can be fat without eating burgers or pizza....right? Plus, burgers and pizza are not bad foods, it's a quantity of them and what's on top of them.
FINALLY someone said it. Anytime I tried to mention how body checking in an intuitive eating/recovery/healing my relationship with food video was counterproductive to the message of the video, I was dog piled. That's because society still values thinness over everything. It's true though, as someone with a history of ED it's so easy to spot when someone else's ED is still controlling everything.
As someone who would hate to be thin, I still struggle to see the problem with showing off your body along with your eating habits. If a bodybuilder show of protein snacks they eat and flex in the camera, nobody really complains about body checking. Idk... just kinda feels like the creators are just showing who they are and what they look like.
Yep, said something to my mom about language she was using about other peoples bodies and talking about food and it was triggering to my ED(she totally has ED and poor body image) she came at me so aggressive and said I needed to not be sensitive 😅 clearly different journeys
Literallyyyy I'm technically eating the same as her because of diverticulitis and my doctor has said "this is not a healthy diet. This is to relax your colon. You might become malnurshished"! It's wild that people are doing this bc they think it's healthy! What I wouldn't give to be able to get more calories in my diet 😔
Lol shoving rocks in your no no square ended horribly and Idk people thought that was a good idea she is an insane person that literally hurts people she needs to go to jail
The body checks are really strange but it also comes off egotistical. That is not a message of self love its a grab for outside validation which is insecurity at its core, or ego driven and both are toxic.
I mean, they basically end up shaming their "former self" which is just a form of self-hate. And it sets them up for future shame should they gain any of the weight back. It's a major mental health trap.
Gwyneth Paltrow has caused so much damage in women’s health. I always thought she was pretentious, but realized she was dangerous when Dr. Jen Gunter (a very respected gynecologist) was referred to as a “so-called-expert” on Goop because she dared to call out some of the harmful advice they’d endorsed.
I will be looking for Dr Jen's work actually for some advice, thanks for the tip! Yeah, I'm doing everything I can to keep GOOP out of my Mum's awareness because unfortunately she has and still does buy into just about every type of weird wellness trick and unsustainable vaguely spiritual health product that Gwyneth would do her own version of. Spiky mats, chi machines, homoeopathic water droppers, fasting, herbal appetite suppressants and metabolism accelerators, essentual oils, salt rock spirit soap bars (you spiritually "clean" yourself with a brick of salt, waving it near the skin) I just want my Mum to be happy and healthy, and not always be stuck in this capitalist chase to buy the next ancient secret to happiness. And there are so many people, primarily women like her stuck in it too
Ironically, the minute I actually became intuitive and not disordered (and THAT took a minute lol), I stopped obsessing over being intuitive and forgot to keep such intense focus on my meals. I stopped trying to record each "creation" on my social media and just started living life. Food slowly phased out as the most important thing in my life...without me trying.
I mean... I'm assuming intuitive eating just means fasting until your body tells you it needs food instead of eating at a set time of the day by instinct (for example, eating breakfast because it's breakfast time)... which would just be intuitive eating.
@@WolfeWrangle except fasting shuts off the ability to recognize hunger and fullness cues. When I was in my ED I was never hungry … because I didn’t know what I was feeling was hunger. The only way for your hunger and fullness cues to work is consistently eating
@@cmr728 Every person I run into who is so adamant about this stuff being an ED projects their own experiences onto other people. No, fasting does not automatically shut off every person's ability to recognize fullness and hunger cues. Perhaps it did so for you, but you can't just project that onto others. Not every human being has to eat breakfast in the morning to know if they're hungry or full. If not eating for multiple hours really did that, then we wouldn't know what to do after waking up from our 8 hour sleep (which we were fasting during that time. Which is why it's called breakFAST). Some people need to eat more frequently, some less. Your body doesn't inform what's healthy for other bodies
Yes!! When a short starts with "this is what I eat in a day as an intuitive eater" and shows themselves as a full body shot in the mirror, that is the second I start scrolling away because it is just so full of bs I cannot bear to watch.
Me too. I'm not interested in an eating video with the opening point of "please look at how thin I am" Like I'm not asking for shameful hiding of a body that just is healthily thin (or any body), but if it's the opening shot of the video, the video isn't in practice about healing a relationship with food. They know exactly what the impact of their choice does.
@@bequietdontcry9504 actually, I appreciate when people post healthy and uplifting things about their bodies. What I don't like, is explicit leveraging of a dangerous and very well known phenomenon of diet culture just to get more views. I love when slim people are proud of their bodies. I don't like when only very slim people seem to open videos with the best shot possible of features that emphasise it, and when it does demonstrably result in various comments of people being displeased with being any larger than the person.
@@lilpetz500 again, people's displeasure with their own bodies is none of the creator's problem. If others are gonna get insecure of skinny people's bodies thats their own problem. Why should skinny people not record their bodies? If someone is proud of their they should able to post it without it being called "body checking". Y'all are so soft. Im not skinny myself but whenever i watch someone record their bodies im proud of them because they look good! Dosent mean i don't look good because i dont look like them.
Yes Abbey! Ohmygod you are sooooo right. I would love to see you do a video on the fruitarian diet. I’m not sure if that’s the proper term, but it is something like that. A fellow Canadian named Jen Peach is a promoter of this diet, especially for eating disorder recovery. As a nurse, and someone with a long history of anorexia, I am at a loss as to how that diet is healthy in any way!! Love your videos! You definitely have been helping me on my recovery journey❤❤❤
I think the problem with this mentality is that not everyone can afford to see a dietician so they go to these spaces to find information and they trust the person informing them. I wish we could all see a dietician if we needed one, but it’s just not the case. We should be striving to make these spaces safer for everyone imo
@@laurenwalker1048The issue is that while you are right that not everyone can afford a dietitian, that doesn't change the fact that nobody should be going to these people for advice. Most of what dieticians recommend is available online via medical websites or in books. It's more work to obtain it that way, but far more reliable. Most people don't even need a dietician, sometimes just a very honest conversation with their primary care provider. I see what you're saying in that people turn to what feels easy and trustworthy, but I don't think any amount of safety protocols is going to make a social media website like Tiktok ever safe enough to communicate medical advice.
It’s so transparent too because if you asked them “why do you have a full body shot (often with tight clothes or a lot of your body visible) at the beginning of every WIEIAD video?” I don’t think they’d have much of an answer for you besides “it gets clicks/engagement”, and they likely won’t have interrogated why that is. If it was just for personal branding, why don’t they start the video with a shot that’s more cropped in on just their smiling face or something? Food for thought…
Yes… and a few people promoting eating disorder recovery with crazy diets- like a fruit only (well 99% fruit) diet etc- on SM feel the need to CONSTANTLY post pics or vids of themselves at very low weights. If someone has a constant need to do that, they are not recovered. At all.
There’s a difference between giving your body what it needs and what’s healthy for you and what your body can digest like I have a very sensitive stomach but that doesn’t mean I’m over here starving myself I eat very healthy and I eat enough and when I am hungry, I will eat what I want when someone is eating very little calories and putting them on other people it can make people relapse in certain situations I’m still in recovery of my eating disorder and I think it’s very harmful for people to post things that are limiting calories when everyone knows they’re not even getting nutrition but if anyone is struggling out there just know you’re valid and you will get through this
I want to give you all the high fives. I'm so glad someone with a bigger voice than mine is saying the things we've been saying because we had to learn them in harder ways. Namely, that not all disordered eating looks like an ABC After School Special. Also, I'd love to see some content discussing how not all restrictive eating is about *body image* - sometimes, it's about control. It can start very young, and it often doesn't make sense to the children doing it. My child suffered for years because she was dramatically restricting food intake, but because she WASN'T interested in her body image, the doctors just didn't address it as an ED. (It was OCD, "of course".) Naming it an ED in her early 20s helped her SO MUCH - she was able to identify her behaviors as similar and recognize patterns and felt so much less alone, despite previously believing she had NOTHING in common with ED sufferers. In the end, what may not matter clinically (nomenclature), CAN matter for individual patients.
As someone who has body dysmorphia, whenever I see something on TikTok or reels that include body checks I immediately skip. Those constant body checks will ruin you 😅
@@debbiepowers4743 sure! Body checking involves a person repeatedly seeking information about their body shape or size using scales, mirrors, or other methods. This behavior may become unhealthy and lead to eating disorders Body checks are compulsive and due to the consistency, they make minor imperfections that others cannot easily notice more prominent in that individuals mind.
YES!! Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️ This always seemed so backwards to me as someone in recovery. As well as the over focus on calorie counting, even if it was with seemingly healthy foods or large portions.
Personal trainers (good ones) don’t like the body checks either. Every single person is different with different genetics and no dieting is going to make you look like them.
I've been working really hard on accepting my body as it is, loving it, strengthening it so it can work harder for me, fueling it, and knowing when i feel satisfied to stop eating. You've helped me learn how to give my body what it needs while satisfying cravings through balanced eating, HCCs, and listening to my bodies satiety cues. THANK YOU. My relationship with food still isn't perfect but at least I have the tools now to continue this journey.
This from the same person who has a video about how she has maintained her weight for over 20 years by not eating certain things. If intuitive eating and not restriction/dieting was your goal you also would not be linking the size/weight of your body to what you eat, and especially not in a causal way. You clearly haven’t shaken off diet culture yourself and some introspection might help you see that.
Your approach to dieting and overall nutritional health has helped me overcome my negative, harmful relationship with food. I appreciate the information and support that you give to your viewers. I am healthier and much happier. Thank you
Im on a diet of intuitive eating but also caloric deficit diet. I found it works far better than anything i have tried to do before. I also do body checks the scale and mirror. I need to make sure i dont lose to much to quickly and to eat the amount i need. I want my fat to go down on mainly my stomach and back. Im not sure if its a good thing but it works for me for my mental health my adhd. Its different for everyone.
being in recovery has a lot to do with separating your worth and your eating habits from the way your body looks. body checks are 100% counterproductive. the before and afters are even worse; especially when it’s just a skinny girl who gets even skinnier. i have body dysmorphia and a history of disordered eating like many people do so i know the harm it can cause. but sadly that doesn’t make me immune. diet culture and skinny-worship-culture are EVERYWHERE and nowadays we’re just finding new ways to disguise it as health. it took me a long time to realize i wasn’t being healthy by slowly starving myself; starving isn’t by any means healthier than being fat!
Abby please do a video on eating when pregnant. I think there is a lot of misinformation out there on what to eat and what not to eat. Also I don't know if it's just me, but everyone has been commenting on the amount I am eating as I am in my 4th month of a twin pregnancy.
When my mom was pregnant (with me and my twin) she says she would have two big breakfasts for a total of 4 servings of oatmeal - she was exhausted and her body was going so much work. You know how you’re feeling and you know if you need to eat more to keep up your energy while building two tiny humans! I don’t have any advice about what to eat or anything, I just wanted to encourage you to ignore the unsolicited comments and advice, especially because it’s probably coming from people who haven’t been there and don’t have qualifications.
TW: ED Talk Honestly, the biggest thing that's helped me irt my pretty much lifelong ED is body neutrality. Body positivity has never worked for me and really just left me feeling anxious and guilty for still hating my body so much. But body neutrality is about focusing on what your body can do, rather than what it looks like. Since I have a bunch of physical disabilities, that looks different for me than it would for an able-bodied person, but that's part of why body neutrality works for me: I get to decide what I want to work on. For example, I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, so I've spent years now working on building strength in specific muscle groups that prorect my joints and reduce my risk of dislocations/subluxations. As a result, my downtime from injuries has decreased quite a bit and that's an awesome feeling. I get to feel accomplished and like, "My body and I worked together to make that happen." It's helped me get significantly better at listening to what my body is actually telling me, instead of just getting frustrated when constantly pushing my body to do things it can't ends badly. I'm also learning to focus more on how my clothes feel to wear than how they look in the mirror, since my body dysmorphia is probably never going away entirely. This means that my sensory issues with clothes (I'm also Autistic) are causing me far less grief, because I'm prioritising how I feel rather than how I think I look. I still look well put together, but I'm happier, more comfortable and less anxious in my clothes. So yeah, if anyone reading this has never been able to make body positivity work for you, maybe look into body neutrality 😊💜
I’m curious your thoughts on disordered eating in the other direction: binge eating, secret eating, and how to recover from that. I restrict the kind of food I choose to eat because I have no self control. I have the gold medal in emotional eating. Every feeling or emotion has a taste and texture. It doesn’t help that I’m AuDHD. While I can understand being critical of restrictive eating, this sounded very ableist.
Nothing wrong with before and after and someone doesn’t have an ED if they desire weight loss. Building a balanced lifestyle which result in weight loss is healthy.
I’ve never understood the body checks. It’s one thing if someone is filming in their workout gear going about their “wellness” video but it is another thing when they’re full on posing, flexing, ect. almost in a way saying “look at me, look how great I look.” Which in my opinion is problematic in so many ways. I can appreciate someone loving themselves but this kind of display is someone being IN LOVE with themselves.
There is an account that ive muted several times but it keeps coming up and she is furious that people call her out for body checking “but she’s just standing in the mirror.” Somebody said, maybe start your video looking at something else? She said no, i want to start my video with me first 😅 hm i wonder why. Almost like it’s your intent that matters
Intuitive eating is a joke. It’s probably the worst mentality for anyone with an eating disorder. Eating whatever you want, whenever you feel hungry is nonsense.
I spent most of my adult life morbidly obese and making excuses to remain that way. I don’t see anything wrong with posting before and after photos. The point for many is to feel better in their body. People need to stop letting other people determine the state of their self worth. I won’t be bullied into not feeling good about how I look after spending a lifetime of getting control of my eating disorder.
THANK YOU. I know exactly what creator you were showing… you are spot on. It is so harmful. The body checking is so inappropriate when this creator also is “anti diet culture”
Thanks for the heads up. I’ve had disordered eating most of my life but never tipped into a full blown ED. I definitely pay attention to content that is not healthy and steer clear.
Because of these videos by Abbey I stopped watching any videos or shorts with body checks, blocked anyone who does them, and tried to stop doing it in the mirror. I feel so much better.
I finally saw a dietitian after a decade of struggling with eating disorders and restrictive eating . I have a one year old , and have been slowly losing weight , but got diagnosed with pre diabetes, so I decided I need to see a dietitian who can help lose weight sustainably while managing my pre diabetes. It was suggested that I do about 60 grams of carbs for each meal, and it has been helping ! :)
I get that but at the same time I feel it’s people showing off their progress. Anyone who has dieted and worked out knows how good it feels to finally see results. I’m not saying this is the case for all them but just giving perspective.
A healthy lifestyle can result in a healthy physical form. I wouldn’t want to take health advice from people that aren’t healthy. Not saying a good body is the only indicator of health but it can help. Just because someone is proud of their results doesn’t mean they should be automatically discredited for it. Besides it is a wonderful way to introduce women who are interested in diet culture to a healthier way.
Did you read what Heidi Klum posted on Instagram? Heidi Klum wrote in a comment that she doesn't eat more than 900 calories a day.😢 I'm so sad for her and frustrated that she posted that! Very irresponsible imo.😞
There was this one wonyoungism girl who said to take a drink of water in between EVERY bite of food you take. When I said that’s disordered eating because you’re effectively filling yourself up on water and not the calories your body needs I had every ED lover and haver in that comment section trying to rip me to shreds. It’s sad we’ve become so normalized to this crap that people think it’s ok.
And let’s also be cognizant of the fact that some of those “perfect” bodies are bought and paid for. It’s not just the restrictive dieting practices; it’s also spa treatments, wraps, expensive personal training, targeted medical weight loss treatments, fake tanning, and a host of other things that the average person doesn’t have access to, or the disposable income for. As the saying goes, “you’re not ugly-just poor.”
It depends. I have pictures of me “before and after” style. Same weight. But in one set I was always bloated and uncomfortable. I’m not skinny now but I don’t look the same either. Progress photos aren’t always bad.
Mmmmmmm, intuitive eating is a thing. But people do have to do their research to do it correctly and not hurt themselves in the process. It’s smartly people 😄
They say I only eat when I'm hungry but I eat what I want but then eat very little or nothing at all because the claim their body was Not hungry therefore restrictive AF
The moment I stopped thinking about my weight when buying and prepping food was the moment I was truly able to intuitively eat. Now my weight doesn't constantly fluctuate with binge & restrict cycles, I'm not going up amd down clothing sizes, I'm just giving my body the fuel it wants to be the size its most efficient at.
What are your thoughts on Nastia Liukin? She was an incredible athlete and I was shocked to go over to her TT and see how emaciated she is. It’s so sad. I then found out her father had multiple complaints lodged for creative toxic environments for gymnasts’ health and wellness and heavily body shaming them. So much so that he was no longer considered to take over coaching the USA Olympic team. She never stood a chance and it seems she’s almost promoting her body to other young, aspiring gymnasts as something possible for an Olympic athlete..it’s so so sad..
As someone who did behaviors along the lines of orthorexia, food and exercise wasn’t the core problem. It really was control. That was the difficult part 😢 to realize and resolve.
I developed an ED after being a victim of DV and SV, my food was weight and controlled 24/7 after I left this creature I stopped eating to cope with the aftermath of it all and then to binge eat to cope with stress and anxiety. I’m trying to find a happy medium and it feels so good being able to eat what I want without being judged or punished, it’s taking me a long way to go and of course I gained most of the weight back but after everything that my mind, heart and body has suffered the least I want to do to it is hate it or punish it. Sending love to everyone healing ❤️🩹
“How on earth can you document or be proud of your body when intuitive eating” The biggest issue with intuitive eating is that it’s been co-opted by the manipulative body positivity movement and has been used to maintain an unhealthy shit life without remorse… We now have influencers like yourself trying to spin restrictions as a negative (not true unless they negatively impact your health) while also theorizing about other people’s mental health because of their restrictions Yes, intuitive eating is good for those with anorexia but the vast majority of diet issues have nothing to do with restrictions and eating too little, the diet issues are binge eating and simply eating too much in general, something that isn’t fixed by further removing control or restrictions (these people already struggle with restrictions) Additionally, if someone is “triggered” by someone else’s words or food choices, it’s honestly a you issue… it’s not on society to change language or downplay the truth because the Berenstain bears diet book impacted you as a kid It ain’t easy but facing your issues head on with the help of loved ones is infinitely easier than trying to completely change the accurate cultural lexicon around dieting
Define "intuitive eating". That term gets thrown around a lot particularly, by people looking for an excuse to eat massive quantities of whatever they want whenever they want.
I don't think intermittent fasting is always bad/ED. There's many health benefits to fasting that have nothing to do with weight loss. For example, I typically skip breakfast or have a very light snack because I always feel a bit sluggish after eating a bigger meal and besides I don't tend to be very hungry in the morning most days (unless I ate a high carb high sugar desert too close to bedtime).
Same! I am usually not hungry in the AM so I just eat when I am hungry. Usually about 2 hours after I wake up. My overall digestion is better too now that I aim to go 12-14 hours between my last meal the night before and breakfast. But, if I wake up hungry I eat.
Damn this IS sneaky. Thank you for helping people think like this. It's very helpful for people who are AROUND recovering or ED vulnerable people as a signal.
I can say, thinking back into my ED days as a teen, that body check these videos start with is EXACTLY what I always used to pretty much pull myself deeper in. If I was thinking about my eating, I'd always try find "inspirational" photos of either incredibly lean or just thin bodies to intentionally try make myself want to eat less. Body checkers know exactly what they're doing.
The body checks need to STOP!!!! That is genetics and most people will NOT achieve that body by doing what they do....love yourself and appreciate what God gave us and what our bodies can do for us!!!
Sanne Vloet always makes me feel like sh*t and she advocates “all foods fit”, “self love”, etc. Im trying to recover from a 11.5yr battle with an ED and I, for many years, had thought that that was what “food freedom” looks like and how I need to still look like post recovery. I haven’t seen her mentioned a lot, but am I the only one who feels she is extremely toxic to vulnerable viewers? Would love to hear other’s thoughts! Thank you!
its like they are saying " i made this body by this way of eating. so you will too if you eat in this type of way" by doing a body check
yes! exactly.
And then they justify the body checks by going, “I’m just vlogging my day, I never said eat like me to get my body!!!” They’re really saying this with a straight face LOL. You’re showcasing what you eat and you end and start the video with a body check. They really think the critics are stupid. Your average person doesn’t obsessively look in the mirror on a regular basis, let alone film themselves doing it.
True although many different people do different diets ans body checks. And lets be real the skinny ones with healthy msucles and a little fat and a nice tan...theyre eating healthy. The chubby bubbies are eating the burgers and the pizza and etc. Its not that weird that a healthy diet might create a healthy body. I mean thats sort of the point. And looking at a healthy body is intuitively healthy. Hot beautiful people are healthy.
@@Padraigp ummm you realise people with 'ideal' bodies can be unhealthy in the way they eat and approach food too. This isn't the take you think it is. Also just because you eat healthy doesn't mean you're going to look like a supermodel, every body is different and unique, a healthy body doesn't usually look like a victoria secret model's. Having a little body fat doesn't equal unhealthy. Also not advocating for people to eat junk all day but come on now. "Hot beautiful people are healthy" red flag love.
@Padraigp you realize that you can be fat without eating burgers or pizza....right? Plus, burgers and pizza are not bad foods, it's a quantity of them and what's on top of them.
FINALLY someone said it. Anytime I tried to mention how body checking in an intuitive eating/recovery/healing my relationship with food video was counterproductive to the message of the video, I was dog piled. That's because society still values thinness over everything. It's true though, as someone with a history of ED it's so easy to spot when someone else's ED is still controlling everything.
YYYYYEEEEESSSSSSSS!! It’s almost offensive that they think they can fool fellow ED sufferers.
We are in your corner too!
As someone who would hate to be thin, I still struggle to see the problem with showing off your body along with your eating habits. If a bodybuilder show of protein snacks they eat and flex in the camera, nobody really complains about body checking. Idk... just kinda feels like the creators are just showing who they are and what they look like.
And a body check is different to a 'check out my outfit you guyssssss' that is so obvious to see too.
Yep, said something to my mom about language she was using about other peoples bodies and talking about food and it was triggering to my ED(she totally has ED and poor body image) she came at me so aggressive and said I needed to not be sensitive 😅 clearly different journeys
Anything promoted by Gwynth Paltrow is immediately a no in my book.
and Abby’s 😂❤
Literallyyyy I'm technically eating the same as her because of diverticulitis and my doctor has said "this is not a healthy diet. This is to relax your colon. You might become malnurshished"! It's wild that people are doing this bc they think it's healthy! What I wouldn't give to be able to get more calories in my diet 😔
That woman is dangerous
100%. If there's a face next to quack in the dictionary, it's hers!
Lol shoving rocks in your no no square ended horribly and Idk people thought that was a good idea she is an insane person that literally hurts people she needs to go to jail
The body checks are really strange but it also comes off egotistical. That is not a message of self love its a grab for outside validation which is insecurity at its core, or ego driven and both are toxic.
I mean, they basically end up shaming their "former self" which is just a form of self-hate. And it sets them up for future shame should they gain any of the weight back. It's a major mental health trap.
@@m0L3ifythat's a good point...
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Gwyneth Paltrow has caused so much damage in women’s health. I always thought she was pretentious, but realized she was dangerous when Dr. Jen Gunter (a very respected gynecologist) was referred to as a “so-called-expert” on Goop because she dared to call out some of the harmful advice they’d endorsed.
I love dr Jen’s blog! She’s amazing.
I will be looking for Dr Jen's work actually for some advice, thanks for the tip!
Yeah, I'm doing everything I can to keep GOOP out of my Mum's awareness because unfortunately she has and still does buy into just about every type of weird wellness trick and unsustainable vaguely spiritual health product that Gwyneth would do her own version of.
Spiky mats, chi machines, homoeopathic water droppers, fasting, herbal appetite suppressants and metabolism accelerators, essentual oils, salt rock spirit soap bars (you spiritually "clean" yourself with a brick of salt, waving it near the skin)
I just want my Mum to be happy and healthy, and not always be stuck in this capitalist chase to buy the next ancient secret to happiness. And there are so many people, primarily women like her stuck in it too
So has Eugene Cooney
When you openly use IV bags and consume bone broth instead of food....You're not healthy.
Ironically, the minute I actually became intuitive and not disordered (and THAT took a minute lol), I stopped obsessing over being intuitive and forgot to keep such intense focus on my meals. I stopped trying to record each "creation" on my social media and just started living life. Food slowly phased out as the most important thing in my life...without me trying.
Intuitive Fasting?? Yeah that clashes! I got into intuitive eating because fasting ex-nayed my hunger cues ….
So, do yoi still agree with "intuitive eating"?
@@meghoughton562 absolutely. I live the principles of it now and have never been happier. I feel stronger and … no hunger pangs!
I mean... I'm assuming intuitive eating just means fasting until your body tells you it needs food instead of eating at a set time of the day by instinct (for example, eating breakfast because it's breakfast time)... which would just be intuitive eating.
@@WolfeWrangle except fasting shuts off the ability to recognize hunger and fullness cues. When I was in my ED I was never hungry … because I didn’t know what I was feeling was hunger. The only way for your hunger and fullness cues to work is consistently eating
@@cmr728 Every person I run into who is so adamant about this stuff being an ED projects their own experiences onto other people. No, fasting does not automatically shut off every person's ability to recognize fullness and hunger cues. Perhaps it did so for you, but you can't just project that onto others. Not every human being has to eat breakfast in the morning to know if they're hungry or full. If not eating for multiple hours really did that, then we wouldn't know what to do after waking up from our 8 hour sleep (which we were fasting during that time. Which is why it's called breakFAST). Some people need to eat more frequently, some less. Your body doesn't inform what's healthy for other bodies
Yes!! When a short starts with "this is what I eat in a day as an intuitive eater" and shows themselves as a full body shot in the mirror, that is the second I start scrolling away because it is just so full of bs I cannot bear to watch.
Me too. I'm not interested in an eating video with the opening point of "please look at how thin I am"
Like I'm not asking for shameful hiding of a body that just is healthily thin (or any body), but if it's the opening shot of the video, the video isn't in practice about healing a relationship with food. They know exactly what the impact of their choice does.
@@lilpetz500if u cannot handle people posting about their bodies the problem is u
@@bequietdontcry9504 actually, I appreciate when people post healthy and uplifting things about their bodies. What I don't like, is explicit leveraging of a dangerous and very well known phenomenon of diet culture just to get more views.
I love when slim people are proud of their bodies. I don't like when only very slim people seem to open videos with the best shot possible of features that emphasise it, and when it does demonstrably result in various comments of people being displeased with being any larger than the person.
@@bequietdontcry9504 nope
@@lilpetz500 again, people's displeasure with their own bodies is none of the creator's problem. If others are gonna get insecure of skinny people's bodies thats their own problem. Why should skinny people not record their bodies? If someone is proud of their they should able to post it without it being called "body checking". Y'all are so soft. Im not skinny myself but whenever i watch someone record their bodies im proud of them because they look good! Dosent mean i don't look good because i dont look like them.
Yes Abbey! Ohmygod you are sooooo right. I would love to see you do a video on the fruitarian diet. I’m not sure if that’s the proper term, but it is something like that. A fellow Canadian named Jen Peach is a promoter of this diet, especially for eating disorder recovery. As a nurse, and someone with a long history of anorexia, I am at a loss as to how that diet is healthy in any way!! Love your videos! You definitely have been helping me on my recovery journey❤❤❤
I have a health condition that restricts a lot of what I can eat, but I see a dietitian, not a Tiktok influencer for advice 😮💨
I think the problem with this mentality is that not everyone can afford to see a dietician so they go to these spaces to find information and they trust the person informing them. I wish we could all see a dietician if we needed one, but it’s just not the case. We should be striving to make these spaces safer for everyone imo
@@laurenwalker1048The issue is that while you are right that not everyone can afford a dietitian, that doesn't change the fact that nobody should be going to these people for advice. Most of what dieticians recommend is available online via medical websites or in books. It's more work to obtain it that way, but far more reliable. Most people don't even need a dietician, sometimes just a very honest conversation with their primary care provider. I see what you're saying in that people turn to what feels easy and trustworthy, but I don't think any amount of safety protocols is going to make a social media website like Tiktok ever safe enough to communicate medical advice.
It’s so transparent too because if you asked them “why do you have a full body shot (often with tight clothes or a lot of your body visible) at the beginning of every WIEIAD video?” I don’t think they’d have much of an answer for you besides “it gets clicks/engagement”, and they likely won’t have interrogated why that is. If it was just for personal branding, why don’t they start the video with a shot that’s more cropped in on just their smiling face or something? Food for thought…
Yes… and a few people promoting eating disorder recovery with crazy diets- like a fruit only (well 99% fruit) diet etc- on SM feel the need to CONSTANTLY post pics or vids of themselves at very low weights. If someone has a constant need to do that, they are not recovered. At all.
There’s a difference between giving your body what it needs and what’s healthy for you and what your body can digest like I have a very sensitive stomach but that doesn’t mean I’m over here starving myself I eat very healthy and I eat enough and when I am hungry, I will eat what I want when someone is eating very little calories and putting them on other people it can make people relapse in certain situations I’m still in recovery of my eating disorder and I think it’s very harmful for people to post things that are limiting calories when everyone knows they’re not even getting nutrition but if anyone is struggling out there just know you’re valid and you will get through this
I want to give you all the high fives. I'm so glad someone with a bigger voice than mine is saying the things we've been saying because we had to learn them in harder ways. Namely, that not all disordered eating looks like an ABC After School Special. Also, I'd love to see some content discussing how not all restrictive eating is about *body image* - sometimes, it's about control. It can start very young, and it often doesn't make sense to the children doing it. My child suffered for years because she was dramatically restricting food intake, but because she WASN'T interested in her body image, the doctors just didn't address it as an ED. (It was OCD, "of course".) Naming it an ED in her early 20s helped her SO MUCH - she was able to identify her behaviors as similar and recognize patterns and felt so much less alone, despite previously believing she had NOTHING in common with ED sufferers. In the end, what may not matter clinically (nomenclature), CAN matter for individual patients.
PDA (pathological demand avoidance)
can also result in these controlling behaviours with devastating consequences in terms of eating for children 😢
As someone who has body dysmorphia, whenever I see something on TikTok or reels that include body checks I immediately skip.
Those constant body checks will ruin you 😅
@@debbiepowers4743 sure! Body checking involves a person repeatedly seeking information about their body shape or size using scales, mirrors, or other methods. This behavior may become unhealthy and lead to eating disorders
Body checks are compulsive and due to the consistency, they make minor imperfections that others cannot easily notice more prominent in that individuals mind.
YES!! Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️ This always seemed so backwards to me as someone in recovery. As well as the over focus on calorie counting, even if it was with seemingly healthy foods or large portions.
Love your content. Finally some reality checks!
Personal trainers (good ones) don’t like the body checks either. Every single person is different with different genetics and no dieting is going to make you look like them.
Literally so so confusing for young viewers/teens - as mentioned confusing self-love! reminds me of the freelee years 🍌
I've been working really hard on accepting my body as it is, loving it, strengthening it so it can work harder for me, fueling it, and knowing when i feel satisfied to stop eating. You've helped me learn how to give my body what it needs while satisfying cravings through balanced eating, HCCs, and listening to my bodies satiety cues. THANK YOU. My relationship with food still isn't perfect but at least I have the tools now to continue this journey.
I absolutely can’t stand when influencers do this! Thank you so much for calling it out!
This from the same person who has a video about how she has maintained her weight for over 20 years by not eating certain things. If intuitive eating and not restriction/dieting was your goal you also would not be linking the size/weight of your body to what you eat, and especially not in a causal way. You clearly haven’t shaken off diet culture yourself and some introspection might help you see that.
Totally agree. Have been seeing a lot of this
Your approach to dieting and overall nutritional health has helped me overcome my negative, harmful relationship with food. I appreciate the information and support that you give to your viewers. I am healthier and much happier. Thank you
It's all about the looks,the body.They know it ,so they use it for visibility and that means business.
I really don’t think a body check at the beginning of a video means it’s not intuitive. Intuitive eating looks different for everyone
Might as well restrict people from doing selfies or anything while she’s at it … Or Shame them
Im on a diet of intuitive eating but also caloric deficit diet. I found it works far better than anything i have tried to do before. I also do body checks the scale and mirror. I need to make sure i dont lose to much to quickly and to eat the amount i need. I want my fat to go down on mainly my stomach and back. Im not sure if its a good thing but it works for me for my mental health my adhd. Its different for everyone.
being in recovery has a lot to do with separating your worth and your eating habits from the way your body looks. body checks are 100% counterproductive. the before and afters are even worse; especially when it’s just a skinny girl who gets even skinnier. i have body dysmorphia and a history of disordered eating like many people do so i know the harm it can cause. but sadly that doesn’t make me immune. diet culture and skinny-worship-culture are EVERYWHERE and nowadays we’re just finding new ways to disguise it as health. it took me a long time to realize i wasn’t being healthy by slowly starving myself; starving isn’t by any means healthier than being fat!
Abby please do a video on eating when pregnant. I think there is a lot of misinformation out there on what to eat and what not to eat. Also I don't know if it's just me, but everyone has been commenting on the amount I am eating as I am in my 4th month of a twin pregnancy.
When my mom was pregnant (with me and my twin) she says she would have two big breakfasts for a total of 4 servings of oatmeal - she was exhausted and her body was going so much work. You know how you’re feeling and you know if you need to eat more to keep up your energy while building two tiny humans! I don’t have any advice about what to eat or anything, I just wanted to encourage you to ignore the unsolicited comments and advice, especially because it’s probably coming from people who haven’t been there and don’t have qualifications.
TW: ED Talk
Honestly, the biggest thing that's helped me irt my pretty much lifelong ED is body neutrality. Body positivity has never worked for me and really just left me feeling anxious and guilty for still hating my body so much. But body neutrality is about focusing on what your body can do, rather than what it looks like.
Since I have a bunch of physical disabilities, that looks different for me than it would for an able-bodied person, but that's part of why body neutrality works for me: I get to decide what I want to work on. For example, I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, so I've spent years now working on building strength in specific muscle groups that prorect my joints and reduce my risk of dislocations/subluxations. As a result, my downtime from injuries has decreased quite a bit and that's an awesome feeling. I get to feel accomplished and like, "My body and I worked together to make that happen." It's helped me get significantly better at listening to what my body is actually telling me, instead of just getting frustrated when constantly pushing my body to do things it can't ends badly.
I'm also learning to focus more on how my clothes feel to wear than how they look in the mirror, since my body dysmorphia is probably never going away entirely. This means that my sensory issues with clothes (I'm also Autistic) are causing me far less grief, because I'm prioritising how I feel rather than how I think I look. I still look well put together, but I'm happier, more comfortable and less anxious in my clothes.
So yeah, if anyone reading this has never been able to make body positivity work for you, maybe look into body neutrality 😊💜
I’m curious your thoughts on disordered eating in the other direction: binge eating, secret eating, and how to recover from that. I restrict the kind of food I choose to eat because I have no self control. I have the gold medal in emotional eating. Every feeling or emotion has a taste and texture. It doesn’t help that I’m AuDHD. While I can understand being critical of restrictive eating, this sounded very ableist.
I love your smart and fearless work!!! 🎉❤ Keep sharing your thoughts and expertise! Thank you. 👏
This is great guidance. Thank you.
Love this explanation, thanks Abby.
Nothing wrong with before and after and someone doesn’t have an ED if they desire weight loss. Building a balanced lifestyle which result in weight loss is healthy.
I’ve never understood the body checks. It’s one thing if someone is filming in their workout gear going about their “wellness” video but it is another thing when they’re full on posing, flexing, ect. almost in a way saying “look at me, look how great I look.” Which in my opinion is problematic in so many ways. I can appreciate someone loving themselves but this kind of display is someone being IN LOVE with themselves.
Any eating too much or too little disguised as intuitive eating is bad. Moderation will not make a skeleton or morbidly obese. Both are bad.
Thank you for creating awareness! It really helps me to be more conscious about the videos I watch - and which I then choose not to watch.
There is an account that ive muted several times but it keeps coming up and she is furious that people call her out for body checking “but she’s just standing in the mirror.” Somebody said, maybe start your video looking at something else? She said no, i want to start my video with me first 😅 hm i wonder why. Almost like it’s your intent that matters
Intuitive eating is a joke. It’s probably the worst mentality for anyone with an eating disorder. Eating whatever you want, whenever you feel hungry is nonsense.
That hit hard, manipulating the body through self control
I spent most of my adult life morbidly obese and making excuses to remain that way. I don’t see anything wrong with posting before and after photos. The point for many is to feel better in their body. People need to stop letting other people determine the state of their self worth. I won’t be bullied into not feeling good about how I look after spending a lifetime of getting control of my eating disorder.
THANK YOU. I know exactly what creator you were showing… you are spot on. It is so harmful. The body checking is so inappropriate when this creator also is “anti diet culture”
She’s absolutely right!
Thanks for the heads up. I’ve had disordered eating most of my life but never tipped into a full blown ED. I definitely pay attention to content that is not healthy and steer clear.
Because of these videos by Abbey I stopped watching any videos or shorts with body checks, blocked anyone who does them, and tried to stop doing it in the mirror. I feel so much better.
I feel the same way about videos of people’s AN/BN stories where they have pictures (especially in the thumbnail) of when they were drastically ill!!
I feel this way about getting weighed.
I finally saw a dietitian after a decade of struggling with eating disorders and restrictive eating . I have a one year old , and have been slowly losing weight , but got diagnosed with pre diabetes, so I decided I need to see a dietitian who can help lose weight sustainably while managing my pre diabetes. It was suggested that I do about 60 grams of carbs for each meal, and it has been helping ! :)
Thin fit people can show off their bodies not always body checking 🙄🙄🙄
Manipulating body through self control, wow, great insight!
THANK YOU! With the random body checks out of nowhere it really throws me through a loop, every time.
I get that but at the same time I feel it’s people showing off their progress. Anyone who has dieted and worked out knows how good it feels to finally see results. I’m not saying this is the case for all them but just giving perspective.
You literally opened my eyes, Abbey- thank you! I always thought the problem was me, because I already tried so much and I am still not healthy yet.
A healthy lifestyle can result in a healthy physical form. I wouldn’t want to take health advice from people that aren’t healthy. Not saying a good body is the only indicator of health but it can help. Just because someone is proud of their results doesn’t mean they should be automatically discredited for it. Besides it is a wonderful way to introduce women who are interested in diet culture to a healthier way.
Please do more videos on body checking. I feel like it should be talked about more.
Did you read what Heidi Klum posted on Instagram? Heidi Klum wrote in a comment that she doesn't eat more than 900 calories a day.😢 I'm so sad for her and frustrated that she posted that! Very irresponsible imo.😞
There was this one wonyoungism girl who said to take a drink of water in between EVERY bite of food you take. When I said that’s disordered eating because you’re effectively filling yourself up on water and not the calories your body needs I had every ED lover and haver in that comment section trying to rip me to shreds. It’s sad we’ve become so normalized to this crap that people think it’s ok.
Thank you I’m tired of body checks
And let’s also be cognizant of the fact that some of those “perfect” bodies are bought and paid for. It’s not just the restrictive dieting practices; it’s also spa treatments, wraps, expensive personal training, targeted medical weight loss treatments, fake tanning, and a host of other things that the average person doesn’t have access to, or the disposable income for. As the saying goes, “you’re not ugly-just poor.”
So grateful for the content you’re making!
It depends. I have pictures of me “before and after” style. Same weight. But in one set I was always bloated and uncomfortable. I’m not skinny now but I don’t look the same either. Progress photos aren’t always bad.
Mmmmmmm, intuitive eating is a thing. But people do have to do their research to do it correctly and not hurt themselves in the process. It’s smartly people 😄
Yup. I see people saying they're doing intuitive eating and either eating all junk food, or eating like 5 foods and don't have a million allergies.
THANK YOU!!!!
As someone who’s recovering from an ED, your videos make me feel so much more comfortable with food and how I eat
Didn’t even know this was happening and triggering my old ED. Thank you 😢
What about self control that it’s bad..?
They say I only eat when I'm hungry but I eat what I want but then eat very little or nothing at all because the claim their body was Not hungry therefore restrictive AF
The moment I stopped thinking about my weight when buying and prepping food was the moment I was truly able to intuitively eat. Now my weight doesn't constantly fluctuate with binge & restrict cycles, I'm not going up amd down clothing sizes, I'm just giving my body the fuel it wants to be the size its most efficient at.
wow, thank you! as someone recovering, the body checks are..... a lot
What are your thoughts on Nastia Liukin? She was an incredible athlete and I was shocked to go over to her TT and see how emaciated she is. It’s so sad. I then found out her father had multiple complaints lodged for creative toxic environments for gymnasts’ health and wellness and heavily body shaming them. So much so that he was no longer considered to take over coaching the USA Olympic team. She never stood a chance and it seems she’s almost promoting her body to other young, aspiring gymnasts as something possible for an Olympic athlete..it’s so so sad..
People have been doing that for years why was it not addressed before. It's so obvious
Important analysis to share
Self-control is needed though
As someone who did behaviors along the lines of orthorexia, food and exercise wasn’t the core problem. It really was control.
That was the difficult part 😢 to realize and resolve.
I didn’t agree with you until the last part. Right on point.
Part of the issue is they dont think they are lying, they are just still caught up in thinness and EDs themselves.
Im not understanding why manipulating your body through self control is a bad thing.
I LOVE this thank yoooouuuuuu
Lol I love the sly Paltrow drive-by calling out. Here for it. 👏
You look so healthy. Ever since I found this channel, I feel like some mental relief when I see you because you’re a normal person who is healthy.
Body checks make others insecure it’s not an issue of the creator it’s us not feeling good about ourselves
Normal people's ie : balance meals.
My ie if : grean beans and cocoa powder
I developed an ED after being a victim of DV and SV, my food was weight and controlled 24/7 after I left this creature I stopped eating to cope with the aftermath of it all and then to binge eat to cope with stress and anxiety. I’m trying to find a happy medium and it feels so good being able to eat what I want without being judged or punished, it’s taking me a long way to go and of course I gained most of the weight back but after everything that my mind, heart and body has suffered the least I want to do to it is hate it or punish it.
Sending love to everyone healing ❤️🩹
If someone bigger did a body check would you still criticize or someone who eats what you deem as balanced???! Probably not so stop discriminating
Oh no having self control the horror
“How on earth can you document or be proud of your body when intuitive eating”
The biggest issue with intuitive eating is that it’s been co-opted by the manipulative body positivity movement and has been used to maintain an unhealthy shit life without remorse… We now have influencers like yourself trying to spin restrictions as a negative (not true unless they negatively impact your health) while also theorizing about other people’s mental health because of their restrictions
Yes, intuitive eating is good for those with anorexia but the vast majority of diet issues have nothing to do with restrictions and eating too little, the diet issues are binge eating and simply eating too much in general, something that isn’t fixed by further removing control or restrictions (these people already struggle with restrictions)
Additionally, if someone is “triggered” by someone else’s words or food choices, it’s honestly a you issue… it’s not on society to change language or downplay the truth because the Berenstain bears diet book impacted you as a kid
It ain’t easy but facing your issues head on with the help of loved ones is infinitely easier than trying to completely change the accurate cultural lexicon around dieting
she’s a fucking dietician she probably knows more than you masterbaiters1183
I’ve been intuitive eating for a fear years, and I’m still figuring out what works and what doesn’t.
Abbey, somehow always going after Gwyneth Paltrow.
Define "intuitive eating".
That term gets thrown around a lot particularly, by people looking for an excuse to eat massive quantities of whatever they want whenever they want.
I don't think intermittent fasting is always bad/ED. There's many health benefits to fasting that have nothing to do with weight loss. For example, I typically skip breakfast or have a very light snack because I always feel a bit sluggish after eating a bigger meal and besides I don't tend to be very hungry in the morning most days (unless I ate a high carb high sugar desert too close to bedtime).
Same! I am usually not hungry in the AM so I just eat when I am hungry. Usually about 2 hours after I wake up. My overall digestion is better too now that I aim to go 12-14 hours between my last meal the night before and breakfast. But, if I wake up hungry I eat.
Say what?? “Self control”?? Those bastards! Promoting that thing that we all need in order to eat healthier, lose weight and be more fit.
Exactly how dare they
This isn’t the channel for you then!
Damn this IS sneaky. Thank you for helping people think like this. It's very helpful for people who are AROUND recovering or ED vulnerable people as a signal.
I can say, thinking back into my ED days as a teen, that body check these videos start with is EXACTLY what I always used to pretty much pull myself deeper in. If I was thinking about my eating, I'd always try find "inspirational" photos of either incredibly lean or just thin bodies to intentionally try make myself want to eat less.
Body checkers know exactly what they're doing.
Omg this is exactly why I feel uncomfortable with growingannas (and some self-claimed "anti-diet" influencers) content
I absolutely adore you Abbey and I love listening to your 100% FACTS 🫶
Preach sister reach!❤
Preach. I am so tired of this.
The body checks need to STOP!!!! That is genetics and most people will NOT achieve that body by doing what they do....love yourself and appreciate what God gave us and what our bodies can do for us!!!
Sanne Vloet always makes me feel like sh*t and she advocates “all foods fit”, “self love”, etc. Im trying to recover from a 11.5yr battle with an ED and I, for many years, had thought that that was what “food freedom” looks like and how I need to still look like post recovery. I haven’t seen her mentioned a lot, but am I the only one who feels she is extremely toxic to vulnerable viewers? Would love to hear other’s thoughts! Thank you!
I’ve never heard the term “body check” before….