that is my thought too . even if earning quite good money and no unusual hcof living it would be expensive . i hope that huge plates left overs things that have not been touched wont go in the bin . i dont like when people do that when there are people that have little or no food .
Also the workers in kebab shops probably don't feed that crap to their families either... Thay use Olive Oil at home but force Rapeseed oil on their customers...
@@JustMe-gs9xi I can say that I agree with this solely based on my own experience, whenever I cook for my family- as most of the times they do. Whenever I cook, I honestly don’t crave/ eat as much, even if it’s something that I would eat a lot of (eg. pasta dishes). Major factor in these cases (all around the world) seems to be the convenience and the other issues addressed in the video (job availability, etc.) In India for example, there are some big online apps to order food (Swiggy, Zomato being the biggest) and they BOOMED during COVID. Everything in moderation is fine. But it’s sad that fast food tends to be the affordable option, even that an issue since many are overpriced
Bless that lady who said she was feeling less lonely and fitter at the exercise class. Community is so important and human contact just as important as eating well and exercising. Keep it up hon. X
the majority of these overweight people use the pub for their contact with other people. The idea of going to exercise class would horrify them. The majority smoke, drink and even take drugs. The presenter asks if there is enough money from the government to tackle the obesity problem. Surely the responsibility rests with the people themselves. Tattoos are way over the top. The lady in the black tee shirt was making excuses and particularly the imminent death of her father. While I understand that this is a traumatic event, it happens to us all.
A brilliant post 👏, every point you made was right in point and shows the value of community…I agree also that exercise and eating well is important, I at 72 and living alone most of the time exercise daily eat well and make sure I’m in contact with others..I now like happily in the Canary Islands so the climate is a big factor , yet the lady that lost 13 stone is an amazing example of how determination and a desire to change our lives is within our grasp…Well done to these people going to exercise in the video , I can see firstly fantastic social contact and then possibly lasting friendships which leads to competition among them to get fitter…
3 months ago I watched this programme. And it stuck with me, Fast forward and I’ve lost 20kg and feel better than I ever have. Another 20kg to go before I hit my goal.
Have you noticed that the people selling the kebabs are often thin and the people buying them are often fat ? The average weight of a Turkish man is 10kg lower than the average weight of a Welsh man. The documentary here makes out that kebabs are to blame for obesity. It's the over-consumption of sugar. If you're anybody who wants to lose 10kg like i have done, the first step for me as a sugar addict was to stop taking sugar in my tea and coffee. I stopped the consumption of sweet drinks inc. smoothies altogether. They don't mention that here and that so many supermarkets are full of aisles of crap.
As a former Lucozade addict and current Coke addict, I completely agree. Sugar not only makes you bloated, causes you to gain weight and risk all the associated health problems, but it also destroys your teeth. Beers and ciders are really bad for it too.
I saw a girl in the chipper putting on a new Kebab joint on the skewer. It looked a d smelled disgusting. She said it feels disgusting too. When you see the amount of gunge that drips off them when being cooked it's disgusting. My dad said that Kebabs and burgers are made from the 5th quarter. Explain pray tell I said. When all the meat is taken off an animal the steam hose it to take what's left. That's what your eating. Seldom have I bought a burger since. That's was over 40 years ago he told me that
We studied cooking at school and home economics, I’m not sure many of these people have much of a handle on either. But one things clear: cooking your own food not just saves you money, it means you’re in control of what’s going into you. I think that’s what’s missing here.
I'm overweight don't know if I'm called obese or not size 16 put on weight in middle age but I eat healthily so don'tike people thinking I eat junk food even as a child I didn't have a sweet tooth. It's not fair that some people are overweight amd it's just assumed they eat junk food. It may be just their build. Whilst everyone is going hysterical about weight there is an increase in eating disorders. Wonder why
This is true. I don't have a choice because I'm mostly broke. I don't even drink alcohol anymore. I love cooking though. If I want pizza I'll make everything from scratch. Ridiculously cheap. Just time consuming. If you make your own base. But you can make 4 at a time so it's not too bad.
I dont accept "eating healthy is expensive" excuse. No, its not. No one is asking you to buy exotic fruit, smoothies, and fancy seafood. Buy regular vegetables like cabbage, radish, tomatoes, cook grains as your side dish, stock your refrigirator with ingredients for cooking (eggs, cottage cheese, beans, frozen meat) instead of buying prepared food. Eating take out every day that's expensive. People are just lazy and treat food as their only joy. "I eat so much because I'm poor" do you even hear yourself
Four months ago, I strategically stocked up on various types of oats,lentils, legumes, flour, and rice bags, each costing around £2. This well-planned purchase amounted to about £50 and has kept my shelves abundantly filled. With this supply, I’m set for the rest of the year, ensuring I only need to spend money on fresh fruits and salads in the meantime. This approach has not only been cost-effective but has also provided me with a sense of security and readiness.
Yeah, I’m with you. I’m in the states and it’s way cheaper here to just go to the store and get fruits and veggies and some meat. Plus, 20 lbs (9 kg) of rice where I live is $11 USD (£8.32)
I worked as a doctor in Gwent area for a year. I didn’t understand at first how a rural area could have so many hospitals but it became very clear how unhealthy the population is. Even in the hospital, I had a major culture shock ( as someone from south England) that every meal was served with chips, be it on the ward or cafeteria. Curry + rice. And chips. Roast beef + roast potatoes. With CHIPS. No one there thought it was weird? I was the weirdo for not wanting chips with my chilli con carne with rice. Like, help me, why??? Edit: by chips I mean thick cut “fries” imagine chunks of potatoes deep fried in the fish and chips shop. Edit x2: I would sometimes get charged child bus tickets because I’m a 50kg 5’4 woman. My consultant said the only time people here are slim is when they’re in school so the bus driver didn’t even bother to take a good look. Wild.
It's a throwback to the 1970s. Back then in London if you went into your local cafeteria everything was served with chips. You could have spaghetti bolognaise with chips. You could have pizza and chips. Ravioli and chips. Eating habits have moved on and it would be weird to eat like that now. I think it's something that's just stuck. Carbs are a cheap way of filling up when you don't have a lot of money.
I think a lot of people eat fast food for dopamine. When youve no money and nothing to do, eating food that tastes good and feels like a treat can make you feel temporarily better.
@@757Princess Ok i don't eat fries or burgers or any fast food. I eat healthy during the day but i have issues with sugar. I eat chocolate biscuits on the evening. I could eat a box of mint chocolate thins a day and a pack of belgian chocolate waffles. i went to a health center, and biscuits were forbidden. I dreamt of chocolate toffees during my sleep.
As a Spaniard it would be torture to eat fast food every day, here in the restaurants we have "menus of the day" at affordable prices, two traditional dishes, real bread, dessert that can be fruit, a drink, beer, wine, water or a soft drink and coffee for 12 to 15 euros, but it is very tiring to eat out every day, everyone goes home to eat when they can.
@@MeadowDayIt is very sad that in the United States, eating fresh vegetables and fruits is a luxury item. I still remember that when a friend of my son came home, he thought it was exquisite to go buy freshly baked bread every day and be able to walk there. He was an assistant English teacher and he said that the menu in Spanish public schools was a menu. gourmet, my son looked at him with a surprised face and told me, this one has never eaten at grandma's house
@@Roque-Cachamuiña-gs1wdvery true. You can only walk to your grocery store in major cities (at most) and everywhere else you need to ride a car even down the street. Fast food seems to be like 95% of the restaurants in my city.
These people live on the dole or mininum wages. For 15 euros they can get 3 kebabs or other junk food take-aways. Obesity has become an illness of poor people. This place reminds me of so called American food deserts, areas with no access to fresh produce, people living in these areas has access only to fast food, like literally there are no other options.
@@MeadowDayoh, I’m sorry but no way. £16 for a large fish and chips, peas and curry at my local chippy, and that serves two people. You could feed two people for an entire day for the £8 it would cost for a single takeaway meal. It’s absurd to suggest that it costs more to eat home cooked food than takeaways, not even in these economically-straitened times is that true.
Being unemployed, helped with my diet. No money. No food. No car. No drinking. Went from 230+ lb to 190. Had to walk everywhere. I hr to the grocery store, back snd forth. Carrying 2 shopping bags. Burn a lot of calories. No gym needed.. spent all day cleaning house. Laundry, car, yard, walking dog. I'm thin and ripped.
It's always seems crazy that some people with less money manage to get fatter... Benefits in the UK are not amazing, so they must be spending every penny on cheap junk food. My home town has a huge unemployment issue, and they are all fat there too.
Am in college and can only afford two basic meals a day I would easily take down that Mountain of meat in afew secs😂 These people can order 3 meals in a day. I don't think they are poor. Probably middle class.
Yes, that's exactly right. Access to healthy food now seems to be a privilege. It's education that's needed, as there are ways of eating more healthily but more cheaply too. Sugar needs to be targeted.
@@TheJohnDornRubbish. It is not expensive to eat healthily, if you cook in batches and shop sensibly. Although that takes effort. By contrast…It’s easier to moan and blame everyone else for your faults and just check into the local NHS ego massage parlour than deal with your problems.
@eljay5009 Maybe depression behind the laziness? I think some people just give up and these aren't individuals, but whole communities existing like this- it's normal to be like that for the people who grow up there. I don't understand why people return after Uni, if there is no work there.
That huge meal he tried to eat... that's more than my family would eat at a normal teatime. And being a frugal pensioner now, the amount of waste of what isn't eaten, apalls me to be honest. Mum used to say, "your eyes are bigger than your belly".
Just looking at all that food/meat made me feel sick. How anybody could think about eating in such an unhealthy way amazes me. I love a bit of meat and food in general, but fortunately my own self respect gives me the willpower to reign myself in and know my limits. This is even more important these days as I suffer from MS, it would be easy for me to just sit around eating, but I won't allow myself to do it.
That was a really gross plate of food. Not a green vegetable in sight. Colon cancer coming up for a lot of people who eat so little fibre and so much animal fat.
I have been obese and I am still overweight. I am the only person accountable for my diet and health. I've lost a lot of weight now but it's a long journey that doesn't really end and it takes huge self discipline. It's about choices, hard choices.
Best wishes to you, been there and done that. If only all the other ignorant, opinionated so and so's would just shut up and let others get on with it. They on the other hand would be outraged if someone shouted out to them about their drinks, their ciggies or their tattoes but feel they have perfect liberty to reproach others about their weight - arrrrgh !
Same here @andrewblakeey4202. I’ve got long ways to go. It was my fault, some days are hard some are better. It’s all about wanting it at the e end of the day
@DrZook great advice, sir, what many people dont know is that reducing carbs also reduce your overall hunger and insulin levels, the less insulin in the blood, the more the body will burn store fat (since insulin tells the body to store carbs aka sugars)
I was a fast food delivery driver during lockdown. Big people spend big money on big portions of pretty disgusting food (not saying I'm perfect, I have vices of my own to deal with).
That's the point, they are contributing to business, and no one turns down business. If they did, businesses would be condemned and rightly so. What we have to do is start remembering all people skinny, average or obese, should be given an environment where they can grow in knowledge and skills of how to be healthier. It's hell when you're obese as it takes so long to lose weight healthily and can make you so much more miserable when you're comfort (food) is not freely available (dieting). People should try to be kind and understanding but some of us don't have those skills, sadly.
Thank you for the job you do. During lockdown you guys really helped some of my family members who couldn't get out to do the shopping. I was awful during lockdown (at least 4 take aways a week). It was the only thing that kept my spirits up. I've lost quite a bit of weight since then..Its crazy how many calories are in fast food and how I just got so used to it. I guess when you live somewhere with low economic activity/jobs/positivity, it's easy to rely on unhealthy habits just to keep some joy in life :(
It can be very challenging to get over addictions to sugar and processed foods, but eventually what used to be a challenge becomes a preference. Once your body gets accustomed to feeling healthier, the cravings for unhealthy and processed foods start to diminish.
Not for me no. I lost more than 35kg and the craving is still there. It's a constant battle and it requires always to be aware and making concious choices. I can only talk for my self here, but the main problem is that we're almost constantly surounded with temptations that unhealthy food is often cheaper and easier to come by than healthy alternatives. Imagine like as if cocaine, heroin, crack and the like would be sold everywhere around the clock, as easy like a phone call.
@@CrniWuk You're right. I found that I have trigger foods which I call "alcoholic foods" - I must avoid eating them because they start a chemical reaction in my body, just like alcohol does to the alcoholics. I also discovered trigger behaviours (like eating in front of the telly), trigger times (11pm) and trigger emotions. I built a support network who I can contact in time of crisis - just like Alcoholic Anonymous does 🤩 Food addiction is a lifelong disease, and we don't need to work on the stigma: we need to help obese people to understand their disease. When I was obese, I didn't see myself obese, I accepted my body. I wish people (and especially doctors) would have encouraged me more to work on my weight. Fat phobia is the healthiest thing one can have imo
Exactly what I experienced. I lost weight by replacing my diet with healthy one. After a while of not eating junk my palette adjusted and I don't find junk food as tasty as I used to. There are still things I like but most of it is too sweet/salty/fatty/sour and all at once. I still get cravings but milder tasting things like raw vegetables, meat and diary. What I can say though if you just eat less of junk food instead of quitting outright cravings never go away. It has to be permanent diet change.
@@CrniWuk I'm the same. I wait for that magic moment when the strong desires will stop, but they are omnipresent. After 30kgs I still have to always manage the cravings. Congrats. on your weight loss !
@@HomoLegalMedic brexit is just one of the issues. Although its the biggest factor. Others issues are the inflation caused by war, cultural decline of the society (transition towards woke culture from the culture focused on working hard and making a living and too many illegal immigrants / refugees. Lot of these issues are common for a lot of western countries these days but Britain got brexit along with all this
@@Starrypaws64 "just flatbread" - well, have you ever tried to eat raw wheat? This is not a food for humans from evolution perspective. You simply can't go to a field gather some wheat and eat it. Even if you manage to gather enough wheat by your hands - you try to eat it to feel sate you'll have some serious digestive problems. Now imagine the path wheat have traveled before it became "just flatbread" - it was gathered, threshed, grind into flour, then added eggs, yeast,sugar,salt, it was fermented by yeast bacteria, then result was thermal treated. I am not arguing value of "bread" for civilization but it wasn't for sure something "Mother Nature" intended for us as food. Bread is a "processed food" in truest sense of the word and It is not healthy.
In 1992 I went to Florida for the first time. There was a restaurant called The Butcher’s Shop on International Drive, Orlando. They used to serve a 32oz steak and my husband watched in horror as numerous customers ordered and ate it. We used to have a piece of meat that size for our family Sunday Roast. It’s frightening to think we have that sort of thing in the UK now. That holiday was also the first time I’d seen people so overweight that they needed electric mobility scooters. We also have that here now too. Very sad to see.
Along with consuming animal products, the industrialization of food, packaged or deli-prepared, is a huge problem. People are being *actively* pushed to reject home grown garden foods and cooking "from scratch." I live in Florida, and I grow a good portion of the fresh fruit I eat. But as time goes on, I've seen more and more ads for "meal plans" trying to play on the "convrnience" aspect. The food industry is ruthless and relentless.
Have you ever considered that the people using the mobility scooters have existed but they used to be stuck at home inside their houses and now they are able to join in activities with their loved ones? Unhealthy food is not the reason why most people are overweight.
No work, no money, no hope? Self respect,exercise, grit, determination and stop blowing the taxpayers money on takeaways. Obese people are always full of excuses, unable to take any responsibility.
I used to be a delivery driver for a takeaway and the amount of times a week I'd deliver to the same addresses was unreal,one address spent just over £10.000 in one year on kebabs and pizzas!!! A guy in his early twenties was on the verge of selling his house because he couldn't afford the mortgage payments,I told him to stop buying takeaways so often and you'll be fine,thankfully he took my advice on board and was able to keep his house. The majority of deliveries were to those on benefits,the government should give vouchers instead of cash,that would help a lot of them learn to cook and feed their children better food,I'd hope?!
As a fatty I think there should be a voucher system available where people on low incomes can pay half price for foods deemed healthy or beneficial at certain supermarkets. Would push me to buy healthier rather than cheap frozen pizzas.
Before lock down I was 21 stone. I started the couch to 5k and slowly built up my fitness, then started to workout at home. In 6 months of no junk food and no alcohol I lost over 4 stone. I am now 15 stone and feel so much better and enjoy life so much more
I remember my uncle saying about this problem in Wales. He was a mining engineer and the miners working with him had a weight problem, apparently the reason was the fact that they passed from hand labour to machinery but did not cut their food intake. He was skinny by their standards.
I think its just welsh people genetically are quite fat, i''ve worked their before and would consider almost all of them alot chubbier then their English brothers
The trouble is that these morbidly obese people go to these incredibly low intensity 'step classes' and then go straight home and consume 10x more calories than what they just lost. In their minds, it almost gives them the excuse to go and do so, like they've done the "work" so they should get the reward. People don't understand that weight control is won/lost in the kitchen. This kind of exercise won't balance out eating 3k+ calories/day, even high intensity exercise, for like 2 hours+/day would struggle to control the weight of some of these people given the diet they have.
I have never bought into the exercise and diet mantra. Unless you are young and already fit and slim no amount of exercise will produce weight loss but it might keep you in shape. This is 99% down to food consumption. It's one of the biggest lies out there. Still, l suppose it keeps the gyms in business.
Many years ago, in my late teens and early twenties, I became 'addicted to exercise' as a friend said to me. I did what you mentioned... 2 to 3 hours daily in the gym on weights and exercise machines, 5 to 7 days a week. Too much you may fairly argue, but I was in exceptionally good shape. Muscular and lean. (Not now, though). I used to eat about 3,000 calories/day, and that left enough calories for my body's usual functions. I think we have a skewed appreciation how calories vs burning them, as you say. An adult needs about 1200/day, I think. EDIT. My calories were almost all healthy, unprocessed foods. Lean meant. Salad, lots of potatoes and past and-the-like.
The trainer man literally said that some of the people in the exercise class go to the cafe afterwards… burn 150 calories, eat a 300 calorie muffin afterwards 🙄
Home cooking is the key, if people were taught more on how to cook in schools then less people would be tempted to buy take aways, at least with home cooking you know whats in your food.
@@HELLO-b1p That is why the UK gov doesn't promote it, more money to be had from higher priced ready meals and also poor health generates money through pharmaceutical sales.
They need to tackle the problem at the root cause - an entire community with no prospect of a job, heart and soul ripped out of a community. Losing weight is great for health but the weight problem is a symptom of a bigger problem. So many communities have been destroyed by the fact that proper jobs have been exported overseas and people have no prospects.
Huh? No jobs? Yet obese? I thought if you don't have a job you cannot afford to eat? How do poor people eat so well all the time? I am confused. I wish I can afford to eat kebabs 3 times a day.
So, watching this my thoughts were 1. If they are unemployed, how can they afford takeaways, which are expensive 2. If they are at home all day, they have the time to cook nutritious meals and save money 3. How many have looked for jobs in other parts of the country or even abroad?
The thing is it's cheaper to have takeaways as an easy dopamine fix as it's too expensive now to go out so it sounds expensive but if that's all you spen your money on it's not that dear and now it's same price to have takeaway as cook really so people don't care now with the cost of living crisis it will get worse
@@ChsM-jk4oy What utter drivel! You obviously don't cook! FGS, it's pretty damn simple, with a takeaway you are not only paying for the ingredients, but the staff to cook the food, the utilities, business rates, insurance and containers. I can afford takeaways, but I rarely have them as they are so expensive. As for going out - not a necessity or at least not a necessity to go out to somewhere that costs much, or any money. When I started work - so, I was earning - I lived in a bedsit with only a 2 bar electric heater so inefficient that in winter, after I'd eaten, I'd get into bed to keep warm and read or listen to the radio. Why didn't I watch tv - because I couldn't even afford to rent one - yes, back then people rented their tv's (b&w, not colour). These people are just lazy.
The trouble is that people who have been on the dole for sometime don’t have the funds to move elsewhere even if they managed to secure a job. Plus if you don’t have a profession and you haven’t worked in some time who will give you a job?
@@pennyfarthing1372 Well, when I worked in a Jobcentre, a long time ago, people got assistance not just to help move if they found a job, but assistance to travel to an interview and I doubt that has changed. You are correct in that if someone hasn't worked for a long time, employers will be reluctant to employ them, but if someone can show they have been meaningfully engaged in some way e.g. voluntary work, their chances of an employer taking them on greatly increase. It really is a case, pretty much 99% of the time, of 'where there's a will, there's a way' but the reality is, as long as the state keeps them, many are happy to sit on their backsides and whinge about their being no jobs.
I've come across many comments equating obesity with laziness. Honestly, I used to think the same not too long ago until I gained a deeper understanding of what obesity really entails. It's not just a matter of overeating or being lazy. Obesity is a genuine illness, comparable to cancer or other diseases. It often thrives in environments plagued by poverty, isolation, lack of human contact, limited education, and absence of food and diet traditions. Sadly, it's exacerbated by individuals who harbor self-destructive attitudes towards their own well-being. Another significant factor is the presence of numerous companies profiting from selling cheap, fatty industrial foods made with inferior ingredients to those in vulnerable communities. In essence, they're no different from drug pushers peddling heroin. Additionally, genetic factors can contribute to obesity in certain individuals. I've encountered people who, despite minimal food intake, seem to gain weight effortlessly. It's crucial for everyone to recognize the severity of this crisis known as obesity, which is claiming lives not only in the UK but also across Europe, America, China, Africa, and beyond. Obesity is indeed the epidemic of our time, and raising awareness about it is paramount.
The only way you can get obese is by overeating exercise has less to do with weight then over eating. So yes people are maybe not being lazy but definitely eating way too much
Yes, it's true that we eat too much, we don't exercise, and it's clear that we live in an industrial society that uses food primarily to make money. But have you ever asked yourself why people eat so much? I've studied this, and the answer is quite simple: they are seeking peace, relaxation, and a bit of pleasure in life. These are common responses to childhood abuse, trauma, poor education, bad parenting, lack of education, difficulty forming relationships, violence, depression, and many other problems from both the past and present. They use food like a drug addict uses heroin or an alcoholic uses alcohol. We all recognize that heroin addicts and alcoholics are sick, so why don't we consider obesity in the same way? Why aren't we calling it a national or even continental (European) emergency? I believe the first solution is not to reduce sugar intake or force them to stop eating, but to provide more specialized teams, such as psychologists and assistants, who can work on the minds of these individuals, reset them, and change them forever. The problem isn't the food, but what's in their minds. As with heroin, crack, alcohol, gambling, compulsive shopping, video games, and other addictions, the issue starts in the brain, not with what people use to find satisfaction.
Kebab in itself isn’t the worst thing. Lamb or chicken sheesh for example is chicken breasts or bone free lamb pieces grilled not fried served with a small pitta bread and salad. You don’t always have to have a Large lamb doner with large chips with mayonese and a can of full sugar sugar pop. It’s about moderation.
We had a kebab at work yesterday for a treat and we had no bread or chips with it and fresh salad. It still may be not a healthy option but as far as fast food goes it is.
@@Rum_an_cokecaked in grease? Yeah in Wales probably like every food there. Proper döner here in germany I ate daily as fitnesstrainer and dietary trainer for over a year because the meat is not that fatty and properly grilled
@@rickkarsan4491 Biggest bullshit ive read so far. They are the only ones bringing healthy food to UK. Being fat on average is a UK problem. Why? Because all they eat is fatty greasy fried food, tons of meat and no vegetables and no fruits. Spiced up with mountains of „crisps“ and chocolate and other „sweets“. Eating french fries every day along with snacks, tons of sugar and the only „healthy“ food being beans and peas out of a can makes you fat
@eljay5009 I'm not even going to argue the effort you put into that is commendable. In honour of your time spent I will buy these ingredients and cook this meal for my family and report back the cost !
Unfortunately, it's words like "fat-phobia" that encourages overweight people to think it's okay to stay fat. Not many (there shouldn't be any) people make fun of obese people at the gym because they see them working towards a better life. To a large extent, people bring obesity upon themselves than it accidentally creeping upon you. Let's educate and encourage people to workout more, look after themselves more and half of their problems would go away.
I think very few Europeans and Americans get obese from rice, or potatoes. We get overweight from too much processed food, not enough fresh vegetables / fruit, often too little exercise (the car dependency in the US is definitely helping with that), too much sugar and goodness knows what sort of additives. (Again, compared to other nations, food additives in the US re pretty much the wild west.)
@@aprilkevin5835 yeah but it still rare case here in Indonesia, and sometimes I also confuse about hearing there's people allergic to peanuts and lactose intolerance, imagine couldn't eat sate ayam or sate padang because you allergic to peanuts. Do they have different kind of peanuts there?
I grew up in an area like this. I've always been slim and athletic, and the amount of body shaming and actual concern for my health was insane. People acted like I was some freak of nature because I wasn't carrying around an extra 50lbs of fat.
@andrejg3086 it's less funny when you live it everyday. I'm sure it does seem quite comical from the outside. Having lived it too.... there's almost no words for how disillusioned some people are. Its like they genuinely belive you're at risk of starving if you're not shovelling fast good into your mouth every 10 minutes. The same people who can't make the connection between this and their multiple health issues caused by inflammation and gut issues. It is quite extraordinary.
@@pingu3984 I have no doubt that their beliefs are genuine. People who loved me thought I was anorexic and were concerned for me. I had a swimmer's build. I had abs. I exercised frequently. I was full of energy, and ate frequently, and they thought I must be sick 🙄 It never affected my confidence, but it was annoying. It was like a blackout drunk worrying that if you don't start drinking more often, you're going to get sick and die. Too stupid to really get to me, but the jokes about being lost if I slip through a crack on the sidewalk got tiring.
I have experienced this in work environments where most people are fat. I eat a Mars bar and someone asks me how I stay slim. I reply it's because I don't eat ten of them every single day! People are weird. It IS now strange if you aren't overweight to many people.
@@kategwynne4658 As a kid of the '50's, mum would buy the occasional Mars Bar - she'd cut it in half, and then cut one of those halves in half again. That was a treat for her, me and my brother. Honestly, I couldn't even eat a whole one, even today - it would make me feel sick!
From my spaniard (catalan) perspective, these eating habits seem to me from another galaxy. I cannot comprehend how so many people could lose their connection with normal food completely. This is similar to people who live in high density urban areas all their lives, they lose connection with what is balanced and normal. At this point, these people might not even remember how a real apple tastes like, their sense of taste might be radically distorted. They are sick and need help.
As an American I get really frustrated when I want to try *any* restaurant. I'm not even talking about fast food. It's fairly simple to avoid the sodas and the desserts, the problem enlies in the absolutely DISGUSTING portion sizes you'd think were prepared for a hippo or a grizzly bear. I'll often order something, picturing a normal, savory portion- and out comes a dish large enough to feed a family of 4. Why the fu** do I need 3 days worth of calories in one dish? Can these restaurants not offer a smaller portion for a little less and still profit? The "senior" or "kid's" menu is always a tiny fraction of the foods available and often something bland and unhealthy like a grilled cheese or breaded chicken nuggets. It certainly makes it easier for me to avoid restaurants and save money, anyway. I don't want days worth of leftovers when I'm only looking for a single meal as a treat.
Much of the food nowadays is ultra processed by the food companies. It is designed to be addictive and turns off people's full switch. The obesity problem isn't down just to unemployment. Education needs to start in school although it doesn't help school meals consisting of chicken nuggets etc are on offer.
Me too. And that’s saying something because I’m from the US. I don’t eat out too much anymore. I am legally blind and I cook a great deal. The slow cooker and the rice cooker are a life saver.
Wow, this looks like the US. And I'm American so no shade. We have a serious obesity problem here. Processed food, everything has sugar and corn syrup.
Foods with high fat, sugar or salt are very addictive. Here in my place, we just started the fast food culture. The cholesterol epidemic is right around the corner 😢
Yes, so if there's no work in your home area, move to a place where there is work. My father was from a small village in southern Italy. Zero job prospects. He moved away to work...northern Italy, Germany and then the UK.
You've put your finger on part of the problem Kevin. Work gives you a wonderful feeling of being useful and you can't put a price on that. I am not talking about slavery or exploitation of course. I am 71 years old and Welsh (BTW). I was lucky enough to get a free education in university (last of the dinosaurs) so I have always had a career, but at 60 I went to live in Denmark and was too old for the job market in my field.... so I got a job as a cleaner and I loved it (my goodness it was hard). I finally retired only 2 months ago but the owner of the company asked me to work one day a week so I said yes and I still get that feeling of satisfaction and being USEFUL and I intend continuing as long as possible. You are so right. Work is necessary for psychological well-being.
Have you noticed that its cheaper to buy a kilo of chips than 6 baking potatoes? And its cheaper to cook the chips than a baking potato. It's things like that that contribute to people being overweight. Also for many working people, their hours are getting longer and longer and this contributes towards people being obese. I know myself that I put on a stone last year because I was forced to work upwards of 60 hours a week. I never got paid for the additional hours and my body ached from having to sit that long at a computer typing reports all day. I've left that job now and lost most of that extra weight. Obesity is a complex issue.
@@constancegoodwill2416 these people are getting expensive takeaways all the time, it's cheaper to cook healthy meat and two veg. You can cook a jacket spud in a microwave in about ten minutes. Fresh veg is not that expensive. People that sit in a office all day could try cycling to work! I cycle 7 Mile's each way and I'm 57 this year.
Feel for Rachel and her Dad. Not only has she got the personal battle, but being there for a loved one is so hard. We can all look in the mirror, its the external people see. Talking about how they feel and someone listening for advice and guidance goes a long way. Some of those people interviewed sounded like they hadn't had much conversation. Why and where has the care gone, so sad.
Society equates care to socialism; weaknesses; handouts. When people really want is supportive information, direction, and someone to talk to. They have very little control over what food is available or the resources and support to provide themselves.
Our son moved to live and work in the USA, within 5 years he had put on 4 stone in weight until he then needed to take blood pressure tablets which was his rude awakening so he lost 5 stone and is now relatively slim, he has kept it off for 2 years now and monitors his weight three times a week. Its the easy availably of junk food across the world.
Yes. The US allows many toxic food chemicals which are banned elsewhere. In 2006, I lost 26 pounds by eating organic. I ate whatever I wanted- Green & Black's almond chocolate bars were a daily staple!! Yet still the fat fell off me. As a tremendous bonus, it cured my years of hellish insomnia. I'd been 'tweaking' on food chemicals and never knew it.
Or your sons inability to read labels and understand about his diet. It took a health scare for him to wake up and not ignore all the warning signs, I.e obvious weight gain.
The problem is not restaurants, is that everything is expensive. A kebab is cheap, filling and tastes good. A salad costs more than twice as much and you'll be hungry half hour later. Also a problem is that if you're struggling mentally, junk food will give you a dopamine kick to make you feel good, junk food makes you unhealthy and fat which in turn makes you eat more to get that dopamine kick, and you get into an infinite loop of mysery.
@@morourke2561 Actually it's not about discipline, once people have been overweight for so long their body pumps out hormones that drives them to feel desperate to eat and others that create cravings for certain types of food. The hormone that tells them to feel full becomes dysfunctional. "Why We Eat Too Much" by Dr Andrew Jenkinson breaks this process down excellently.
Never mind the 60s it was the same when I was at school in the 90s and the very few that were fat got absolute dogs abuse. Nowadays it's normalised and the amount of takeaways peddling this garbage is absolutely off the scale.
@@CKOfreedom You're both wrong, I've been there and all you're doing is giving people an excuse to not succeed. I would rather inspire someone to have the ability to achieve their goals. It's about the food you eat, which will almost instantly change the hormonal effects you're speaking on, high protein for example will create satiated every time.
@@morourke2561 Actually I'm not, nothing I've said is justifying obesity or discouraging others from improving themselves. My response was directed at comments about "they just need to eat less" and the calorie in/out falsehood & the other judgemental and in some cases rude remarks. Many proper have "been there", however your anecdotal experience isn't equivalent to the that of everyone, even less is it or a world/ nationwidewide solution. Once a person has been severely obese or overweight for a certain amount of time it's actually a very slow & difficult process to reverse the hormonal dysfunction, and just as most of the people commenting on this post are utterly clueless about how that works, so are those who are actually struggling with weight. Giving the public the information they need is not happening for multiple reasons, I'll name 3: firstly because GPs haven't got a clue about nutrition, 2ndly for years the scumbag politicians writing health/ dietary guides were also shareholders in fast food companies and used feedback from those same companies to create recommended eating plans and official government guidelines, 3rd people being fat and sick worldwide is hugely profitable, even in this show they're discussing big pharma solutions. Protein alone is not an answer, and a lot of people can't even afford to buy high quality clean meat, so they end up buying frozen processed meat, disgusting cheap chicken and still eating cheap carbohydrates with it, then winner why it's not working, they gain more weight and are going around in circles. The balance of protein fat and carb need to be understood in relation to an individual's insulin resistance, carb tolerance limits and hormonal function but how many of these obese people in this video have a clue about that? I've seen just one other person in this pool of commenters here who is clued up about it. And gutter many if these outrigger have been to their GP and had blood work out hormonal tests for the actual hormones that matter? Probably zero given most GPs simply don't know themselves. This is why I've posted the name of a book (Why We Eat Too Much by Dr Andrew Jenkinson) in multiple responses on this page, because he explains this in great detail covering genetic, hormonal, environmental and lifestyle factors whilst remaining jargon free. He's a tho to variation surgeon who raised almost all his patients were telling him the exact same experiences and it didn't remotely sign with what's being taught to medics. He also picks apart previous studies that had to misunderstanding and misinformation about eight gain/ loss. I've given this info multiple times because I want people to be able to help themselves, and for anyone interested in nutrition, plus the public at large, to be informed and empowered, so again, your assertion that I'm giving people an excuse to not succeed is wholly unfounded, whilst you claim to prefer to inspire others to fulfill their goals, I must have missed that part of your contribution in your response to my comment, your are you achieving that?
The fittest that Britain has ever been, across the board, was during WW2 when there was rationing. You couldn't overeat because there was nothing extra to eat.
They weren’t fit, they were clinically starving from lack of key nutrients. Vitamin deficiency was endemic, as was prevalence of osteoporosis. My great grandmother was fit because she was lucky enough to come to America as an infant, she always had food, even during the depression and was physically active until she died. She also had cream in her coffee every morning and dessert when she felt like it. She lived independently until 98, and was still scrubbing the floors on her knees until the end.
@@Catmom-gl5nt That's just not true. People did eat healthier food in WW2. Supplements like cod liver oil and rose hip syrup also became available and were widely promoted for children. Flour was fortified. These alone cured huge numbers of children of rickets and lung problems. My parents were born in the twenties and grew up in the depression then the war. They would tell me of of a massive, general improvement in peoples' health during WW2. People ate a lot better. The facts about Britain's nutrition and health are really easy to find on the net, from official and non-official sources.
@@catherinebirch2399 That's just nonsense. Why don't you do a little googling and read actual accounts of real peoples' lives during WW2? Even better... read a book about it. There are loads out there and I have read quite a few of them..
Because it costs a tenner to have the oven and hobs on and plenty more to get store cupboard essentials in bulk upfront. Cooking from scratch is only a fractional cost of takeaways in the longer term not immediately. Plus for some a visit to the takeaway is an outing. Which is sad of course, in both senses of the word.
Something I wanted to add, listening to the last woman talk, my heart goes out to her, and all of those struggling. You cannot just quit an habit, you have to replace it with something else. So for instance if one eats because one is depressed and lonely and food makes them feel good, having someone to call at those times to come round and have a laugh and a cup of tea. Go for a walk, do something with to distract and uplift you, will make a big difference. Supermarkets often have cooking classes, you could look into taking ones that might make healthy meals with proper portion sizes. Maybe go online and start a group for those interested in starting an after dinner walking group, all ages. No fitness required. Positivity pref. Look at ways to help others, it boosts self esteem. Remember you are valuable.
I'm sure that comment was well meant. HOWEVER, please realise that people who tend to put on weight have not been established as the group in the population who are unable to think that doing something different is a good idea.
You absolutely CAN just quit a habit without replacing it with something else. It's all a mind game, and frankly, some people are just weak and lack self-discipline. You can say excuses for binging and overeating all day long, but at the end of the day no one is forcing them to eat so much food. For me, it was very hard to quit smoking. I tried replacing it with vaping, chewing gum, snacking, you name it. Nothing worked, except for me not putting a cigarette in my mouth. It's fucking hard, but it is doable.
it's entirely normal to be obese in many areas. If you walk through any council estate the obesity is shocking, young single mothers with their stretchy black leggings so there is nothing to tell them they are putting on weight, many of the kids are the same. they are living an entirely sedentary lifestyle, decades ago they would have been taking on 3 jobs to feed their kids, they don't clean or cook. it is all convenience, Greggs and take aways, they entertain themselves with Pringles and family size bags of chocolate, the virtue signallers even want to take away their last job, cooking for their kids by providing free school meals all year round, unfortunately the people making the policies are middle class and assume everyone has the same ambitions and ideals as them , they don't, they don't value health , they don't value education, they just do as they see everyone around them doing, If you don't see any adults get up and go to work then you are going to do the same, especially when the rent is already paid and the mother has never worked. it is the same with food, they have sucked the ambition out of these people by providing everything they need, they use junk food and the smartphone as their main form of entertainment
And why, because people are inherently lazy if left to their own devices and lazy people will keep voting labour 😂 ring that bell, take the kids back to school
Stop the dole money and 100% of them will loose wight guaranteed! If some one is unemployed and received money for free they will use that money to buy food or drugs this is why imigrants comes to the UK because it is easy life compare to Africa and Asia.
This is one of the biggest problems -being large and overweight is now the new norm. I live in NZ one of the worlds fat countries where I notice that a lot of the children are now being born fat although many will kindly say chubby
I live in a council estate and can confirm this. It’s disgusting. I live there because it’s cheap enough to be well within my means to have a very very good lifestyle.
Here in Mexico, people started getting fat when foreign food chains came in and changed the game. Also, the rapid growth of the industry sector has made the lifestyle of many people inclined to easy stuff, like, getting easy food. We have so much healthy dishes and kids were not this fat 40 years ago. I'm a teacher, and it does worry me to look at more and more teenagers with weight issues, as they all buy their lunch at school and they're usually burgers, hot dogs, slices of pizza, beverages with high amount of sugar that are meant to be drunk by athletes, etc.
It is curious but in Spain a fairly high percentage of Central American and Caribbean immigrants have high rates of obesity. In addition to genetic reasons, I see that they consume a large amount of sweet foods, processed cakes, many sugary soft drinks, they do not cook with olive oil, they do not eat fish and for them eating in fast food chains seems like a question of status, while which for the Spanish population is almost the opposite
I heard that Coca Cola is the number one drink in Mexico right now and it’s making everyone have diabetes and dental problems and it’s making people suffer from sickness. It’s very addictive to drink and it’s very unhealthy for the body and the organs. I wish people would drink water and enjoy their health more than they do. 😢
Olive oil doesn't have more calories than other oil and good olive oil is very expensive. I am very thin and I don't use olive oil for cooking, the taste is just disgusting.
Are there no parents that teach their offsprings how to eat healthy? I think that's one of the parental futies. If people have no interest in educating themselves about healthy lifestyle tvey shouldn't breed
See the pub was filled with mostly men. Then there is no money. We are lucky we eat well, can pay the bills have no mortgage. But couldn’t afford to drink and smoke like some of these
A good but sad documentary. Nice to hear from people affected by the problem. It's awful to see how badly the lives of many people in these towns has been affected by the lack of jobs and just other activities. I need to lose weight myself.
You can lose weight. If you accept it is something that you can control, that is a very good first step. I hope that is a helpful comment. I wish you well.
@DrZookYou advice people to consume dairy?! Since when modern day dairy is healthy? Estrogen pasteurised with preservatives dairy, yumm. You can gain weight on apples if you eat too much of it. Lowering your calorie intake to less than your BMI and weaning off of sugar addiction and lowering carbs is what I believe is the solution.
People who have medical conditions which cause big weight gains are very rare. The vast majority it is their own fault. That does not justify being rude to them. But similarly it does not justify them not taking responsibilty for their condition. Eat less, eat better, cut down the pints. I have been overweight, and still am a bit, but it is entirely my own fault. I like to eat and drink more than I like to excercise.
well, you are right about the food. About the alcohol ("pints" and other stuff), without it I would have killed myself a long time ago. My life is a boring, dark hole. People have become closed, extremely focused on themselves and suspicious of others. It is virtually impossible to get to know somebody, at least from my experience, unless we both drink a lot and eventually the conversation arises. Don't judge anyone please, no one chooses to be fat or an alcoholic. As long as society moves in the current direction, these problems will only deepen and become more common.
@@grundgesetzart.1463My dear, please do not think this way. I do understand what you see. But if you give in to dark negativity, this is all you will ever see. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Smile, be open, even when it is hard (and it will be hard when you don’t see others returning the favor). It does not matter. By being happy and open, you will attract and encourage others to do so as well. God bless you.
I have been all over the UK with work - and I can say without any doubt that the Fattest and most out of shape people I have ever come across was in Sunderland, even the small children have guts on them, I would say 8 in 10 people or families I saw was overweight, TRULY SHOCKING.
During the second world war when food rations were in force, the nation was at it's healthiest ever. There are some who have definite hormonal conditions and put on weight whatever they try to do but in the majority of cases obesity is caused by eating/drinking too much of the wrong sorts of food and liquids. I also wonder if there's a growing laziness with some who just can't be bothered to shop, prepare and eat healthier foods but prefer to rely on takeaways, especially when they can order takeaways while sitting down and watching TV.
Actually sleep disturbances are a MAJOR cause of weight gain. They can be due to a range of issues and they can be a vicious circle of each issue causing the other issue. You can be the most careful and moderate eater in the world and if you have severe sleep disturbances you are going to put on weight.
I’ve just done 3 weeks of eating no UFP food. To be honest I felt amazing and lost 6lbs (which will probably soon be going back on…) as researching recipes to eat, checking every ingredient in everything, making meal plans, shopping lists, sourcing organic/fresh/local food, then all the prep, cooking and cleaning after is almost like a part time job. Cooking from scratch is bloody expensive and not sustainable especially when you are a mom and work full time with an hours commute on top!
You don't get fat from eating steak. You get fat from eating awful carbohydrate foods like pizza and pasta. I don't know why people still seem to follow the "low fat, high carb" nonsense.
I do agree, but it's also the sheer amount of bad food these people eat. They've got a warped idea of portion size and lack self control. If they ate better food, they'd be more satisfied and get less cravings.
@futurez12 nope. It doesn't. It's truly difficult to overeat protein like a nice fatty steak. The carnivore way of eating is helping tons of people lose weight, reverse type 2 diabetes, heal their bodies. Go ahead, no side dishes, no seed oils, try to eat 3 or 4 fatty steaks. Try Dr Ken Berry, Dr Shawn Baker, Dr Anthony Chaffee, Intentional Carnivore (he isn't obese now), CarnivorousMe, she is doing great. Steak and Butter Gal, myzerocarblife, HomesteadHow, and by the time you watch some of those you will probably find more. You speak like someone who has no clue what the Proper Human Diet is and how it is amazing for the body.
The steel and mines shut 40 years ago. People need to stop blaming there being “no jobs” and think of other jobs than those which were redundant before many of the working age population were born
A box of rolled oat porridge cost £2 a box serves 25 servings and you can use water if needed,and will stop you from going hungry for 8 hrs,and provide more fibre and goodness than five diffrent fruits. All in a bowl cooked for 2 mins in a microwave. Simple
Very true, gar, but adding fruit makes it even more nutritious. Fruit is a heck of a lot cheaper than getting junk food delivered to your gaff three times daily. 😄
My father in law is 82. Still runs a small farm with 30 odd cattle. Still uses a chainsaw and gets his own firewood with us. He’s as active as anything. Thats what he has for breakfast every day. Oats with either a spoon of honey or brown sugar. Active everyday and not an ounce of fat on him.
I started my first ever diet this year and started eating porridge again for breakfast - it’s so cheap compared to a fry up ( and is so much better for you ) and it tastes way better from when I was a child
I’m no expert or dietician but I find home made soups are very healthy and filling and not expensive. Lots recipes on u tube and I put lentils and kidneys bean and chickpeas in. They are so inexpensive and nutritious. Soups are very easy to make.
I decided to cook everyday a vegetable soup just from one vegetable. Everyday is a different soup: yesterday was carrot, 2 days ago green beans soup. Just water, vegetables, salt and herbs. Blending at the end. It’s a great addition to the meal.
I have a go to meal made only from vegetables, they cost me just over £5, I get 4/5 big evening meals from 1 cook. I use sweet potatoes as the filler. Very cheap and nutritious 👍. Not everyone’s cup of tea but it does me well. 👍
I'm jobless since 2019... it's totally fathomable that they do binge eating due to their anxiety about Jobs... this is not over eating, it's stress eating 😢
I was unemployed for a year. Exercise, exercise, exercise! You have all the time in the world to exercise. It really does get rid of the stress. Once your stress is under control then you won't overeat. Remember that your health and a good body are the most important things you have, not a job. In fact, they help you to find and keep a job. So destroying the most valuable assets you have because you yearn for a job is pretty self-defeating.
low grade nutrition, people eating products not whole foods, produce grown in nutritionally deplete soil, junk food on offer, culture and habits, hormonal responses in those with weight issues, medical doctors given almost zero nutritional training, massive miseducation about the workings of the body's systems and responses to foods, more women in full time work = less mothers at home prioritising family dinners, to name just a few reasons, there's a long list.
Takeaways must be extremely cheap in Wales. I'm on benefits (due to disabilities), I know I can't afford to live on takeaways. But I understand comfort eating, its easy to overeat when you feel stressed or depressed. People need a sense of hope, direction, belonging and community. If those things can be addressed then its likely health outcomes will improve.
I totally agree! There's a number of things that people need in this situation to help with solutions. I spent many years volunteering and teaching about volunteering and its always a good place to start. When we help others we help ourselves. Its a particularly good place to start when there is no, or very little work around.
I think it starts in Primary School. There's almost no education on good nutrition. And school dinners tend to be junk or semi junk food. Or when it's OK food, the way it's prepared / cooked is not particularly palatable. EG soggy boiled cabbage, instead of crunchy raw shredded cabbage in a delicious salad.
My family's background is Tredegar, Ebbw Vale, Newport etc. No current family lives there any more but my grandparents, uncles etc. would all have been horrified at this. I remember Sunday lunches where the great bulk of food, vegetables, fruit etc. was all sourced from an allotment just outside the back gate. Home cooking is vastly superior to take away.
I'm down 8.5 kg from my weight of 63.7 kg last year and I feel so much better. My gym instructor told me, you lose weight in the kitchen NOT in the gym.
I'd say it's a combination of both but yes.......as the saying goes, "you can't outrun a bad diet'. Also I'd say that in general, those that exercise do tend to eat less.
I used to weigh 97kg, cut out all sugar and refined carbs and now weigh 81kg. I eat a high fat low carb diet, mostly meat, eggs, dairy and a few non starchy veggies, so yes it is carbs that made me fat and it is excessive carbs that cause type 2 diabetes.
i personally think there should be a limit on the amount of fast food takeaways etc a town can have. i counted 10 on one not very long street recently.
The steel works were the heart of the community with that gone the community died and the workers had no jobs or future. Older workers couldn't retrain to earn the same amount and young people had to move away to find work, those left had no future the obesity is a sign of mass depression and can only be solved when the community feels it has a purpose and future
@@pallando100 bull**it. obesity is a sign of shoving too many kebabs in your fat gob every day. if the community gets you down, move to one that inspires you. this is pathetic whining "woe is me". pathetic victimhood. people who live in real poverty in places like India and Ethiopia don't look like this and don't blame such and such an industry that closed down decades ago.
Makes me so sad to see wales after the end of all this successful operations such as the steel works. I hope some amazing innovations will come to that lovely part of the world and help turn things around
It’s not just Steel, there’s coal, copper, Smiths clocks gone from Wales! Most UK manufacturing / big companies have gone, or into foreign hands. Cadbury chocolate, Steel, car/truck manufacturers (West Midlands, Sheffield etc, even our Hallmarks have been sold off!
My cousin lived there. He never worked a day. His daily routine was his trip to the video shop to hire 4 video. Next to the local shop to buy 8 mars bars and a six pack of crisps. He was found dead in his chair at 35 and it took 6 people to lift his corpse to the mortuary vehicle.
i live on the south coast and as i sit on the seafront the people passing by i would say at least 50% of them are on the obesity scale, the effects on their health are extreme and the increased pressure on the nhs. If you are carrying 2 stone extra around your waist it is central obesity and will effect your health its not just the huge people you see.
I'm a post war baby, I've still got my ration book from those days, I don't understand how people let themselves get into this state, is it depression? I'm 74 and still weigh the same as I did in my twenties, I couldn't handle this much food, I'd be ill!
My mother-in-law is a pre-war baby (1938) and did not learn a jot from rationing. She has fatty liver and type2 diabetes due to her diet. She also has hiatus hernia and diverticulitis. Her cooking and food management/hygiene skills are atrocious too. Her slightly younger sister is the same as yourself. So, I'm going to say that it is down to personality.
There's not one singular reason, depression or other mental health issues may play a role for some, lifestyle, poor nutrition, low quality nutrient deficient food, poor education/understanding of balancing foods, less common family dinners and home cooked food, higher amounts of hormones, chemicals and preservatives in food, constant offers on junk foods, supermarkets with one aisle of fresh produce and multiple of products not whole foods that didn't even exist 100 years ago, increasing prices on fruit & veg, insulin resistance, hormonal imbalance and dysfunction in those with severe/ long term excess weight, family/ community habits and culture and more.
@@TruthMattersAlwaysI would guess a matter of personality. Even back then certain people were feckless and rather lazy. A matter of choice. I am of that generation and thankfully was brought up to have three home made meals using fresh In gredients each day. We were by no means very well off, growing vegetables and keeping hens etc. I have a hiatus hernia but otherwise BP normal and no more problems, aged eighty-five. I am not a good cook by any means but still have the same diet now as our family did all those years ago. Laziness is the devil here! .
They may end up depressed once they've become obese, but it's not depression that causes them to gain the weight. It's access to excess and poor self control.
@@mydogeatspuke yes and no, I agree depression is not the primary cause for most people becoming obese, however, equally true is that there's large numbers of people that had difficult, dysfunctional or abusive childhoods, they may have grown up in low income families where good nutrition was not an option or priority and a combination of life long poor nutrition, poor knowledge, a dysregulated nervous system and high functioning depression all contribute. Many people who go to therapy for example, have a main issue they go for but have also been struggling with either food, money, or both most of their lives. Poor mental health and diet are often intimately linked.
@aussietruckphotosandmodels8510 - you can't blame Thatcher now! She resigned in 1990 - over 30 years ago! Wales has had a Labour government for decades and they've done nothing to help those communities (who probably voted them in)! I agree that Maggie stuffed those communities by closing the mines, but after 30+ years she can't really be blamed!
@@rhyfelwrDuw to be honest, welsh gov literally just banned bogof/2 for 3 offers like last month on unhealthy products and certain items from meal deals and some people are outraged, so clearly they are thinking of it but people dont want it
You have it backwards. Sugar and carbs are fine, portions are the biggest culprit. There are only three macro nutrients, and cutting out one of them its wholly unnecessary. Just eat less of all of them and you'll be fine. Sugar is naturally occurring, the brain loves it. Loves it so much it turns carbs to sugar, because that's all the brain eats. The other nutrients are for maintaining the rest of the body. People eat portions bigger than their heads and it's not necessary.
Portion sizes are super important. For example, the family food tray that is served to him in the video. And on top of that, calculate how long it takes to eat it. Terrible.
Ticking time bomb's 🤦🏻♀️ Love Wales so much, it's stunningly beautiful and the people are lovely. The shut down of businesses has had a devastating effect on the communities. They seriously need a Right wing government who encourage capitalism. Labour have killed Wales but the people will probably still vote Labour
My parents and grandparents lived through the struggles of the working classes , the First World War and the Second World War and the Austerity years into the 1950s when I arrived as a kid. Every single snap shot of them and us show them as SLIM! I never lost those upbringing values and I am still as slim as I was at 20 and am now 70 years old . You have to decide to act on it and plan what and how often you eat and exercise into the bargain. It's as simple as that. It's possible to have treats from time to time . Our family had fish and chips occasionally , and we also had treats like ice cream and sweets now and then , but we were not snacking all the time and eating the sort of food depicted in this programme on a daily basis. My mother and father knew good basic healthy cooking ! And if people talk about it being difficult to manage - we lost our mother when we were young and our Dad was great-bringing us up on his own -cooking the meals when he got in from work ( as a carpenter). So I think it's time people stopped making excuses for eating badly.
If there's no employment in the area, how can they afford to eat takeaway kebabs every day?
Then they have the audacity to come up with the “Heat or eat” malarkey
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Benefits and laziness.
That's what I was thinking. Ordering a take away every day is an expensive hobby.
that is my thought too . even if earning quite good money and no unusual hcof living it would be expensive . i hope that huge plates left overs things that have not been touched wont go in the bin . i dont like when people do that when there are people that have little or no food .
The irony of the guy making the Kebabs being the skinniest one in the video and all his workers being in fairly good shape 😂😂😂
Working in food shops can actually take your appetite away. I bet they just eat small portions.
Also the workers in kebab shops probably don't feed that crap to their families either... Thay use Olive Oil at home but force Rapeseed oil on their customers...
They don't indulge in their products like that
Pablo Escobar never consumed his own product
@@JustMe-gs9xi I can say that I agree with this solely based on my own experience, whenever I cook for my family- as most of the times they do. Whenever I cook, I honestly don’t crave/ eat as much, even if it’s something that I would eat a lot of (eg. pasta dishes). Major factor in these cases (all around the world) seems to be the convenience and the other issues addressed in the video (job availability, etc.) In India for example, there are some big online apps to order food (Swiggy, Zomato being the biggest) and they BOOMED during COVID. Everything in moderation is fine. But it’s sad that fast food tends to be the affordable option, even that an issue since many are overpriced
Bless that lady who said she was feeling less lonely and fitter at the exercise class. Community is so important and human contact just as important as eating well and exercising. Keep it up hon. X
the majority of these overweight people use the pub for their contact with other people. The idea of going to exercise class would horrify them. The majority smoke, drink and even take drugs. The presenter asks if there is enough money from the government to tackle the obesity problem. Surely the responsibility rests with the people themselves. Tattoos are way over the top. The lady in the black tee shirt was making excuses and particularly the imminent death of her father. While I understand that this is a traumatic event, it happens to us all.
You are a very sweet person! XX
No job = less human contact.
A brilliant post 👏, every point you made was right in point and shows the value of community…I agree also that exercise and eating well is important, I at 72 and living alone most of the time exercise daily eat well and make sure I’m in contact with others..I now like happily in the Canary Islands so the climate is a big factor , yet the lady that lost 13 stone is an amazing example of how determination and a desire to change our lives is within our grasp…Well done to these people going to exercise in the video , I can see firstly fantastic social contact and then possibly lasting friendships which leads to competition among them to get fitter…
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3 months ago I watched this programme. And it stuck with me, Fast forward and I’ve lost 20kg and feel better than I ever have. Another 20kg to go before I hit my goal.
Nice work m8
@@gordonrowe8091 thank you , still going strong. Started weight training atm. Loving it so far.
Well done !!
Congrats! 🎉
@@jeanmyers1787 thank you
Have you noticed that the people selling the kebabs are often thin and the people buying them are often fat ? The average weight of a Turkish man is 10kg lower than the average weight of a Welsh man. The documentary here makes out that kebabs are to blame for obesity. It's the over-consumption of sugar. If you're anybody who wants to lose 10kg like i have done, the first step for me as a sugar addict was to stop taking sugar in my tea and coffee. I stopped the consumption of sweet drinks inc. smoothies altogether. They don't mention that here and that so many supermarkets are full of aisles of crap.
As a former Lucozade addict and current Coke addict, I completely agree. Sugar not only makes you bloated, causes you to gain weight and risk all the associated health problems, but it also destroys your teeth. Beers and ciders are really bad for it too.
The accent on those Kebab shop owners though. They are morphing from Turkish to Welsh.
Well, they seem to have found jobs in Wales.@@Hereford1642
....and destroy their gut flora@@ngc4486diane
I saw a girl in the chipper putting on a new Kebab joint on the skewer.
It looked a d smelled disgusting.
She said it feels disgusting too.
When you see the amount of gunge that drips off them when being cooked it's disgusting.
My dad said that Kebabs and burgers are made from the 5th quarter.
Explain pray tell I said.
When all the meat is taken off an animal the steam hose it to take what's left.
That's what your eating.
Seldom have I bought a burger since. That's was over 40 years ago he told me that
Well done to the women who has lost 13 stone, that’s an absolutely amazing achievement! She has added decades back onto her life.
Its mad that, Im 13 stone, she basically shed me😂😂
She should never have got so fat in the first place.
She's not added decades m8 she might get one and I wouldn't put money on it she's done really well 🎉but the damage is already done
@@judgemental_terrier Dayyyuum
She ate like a pig for years and then stopped eating so much. What an amazing achievement.
We studied cooking at school and home economics, I’m not sure many of these people have much of a handle on either. But one things clear: cooking your own food not just saves you money, it means you’re in control of what’s going into you. I think that’s what’s missing here.
Spot on...Amazes me how many people can't or won't cook these days
No excuse these days. I never learnt cooking in school however with UA-cam and the internet it’s super easy to learn.
I'm overweight don't know if I'm called obese or not size 16 put on weight in middle age but I eat healthily so don'tike people thinking I eat junk food even as a child I didn't have a sweet tooth. It's not fair that some people are overweight amd it's just assumed they eat junk food. It may be just their build. Whilst everyone is going hysterical about weight there is an increase in eating disorders. Wonder why
This is true. I don't have a choice because I'm mostly broke. I don't even drink alcohol anymore. I love cooking though. If I want pizza I'll make everything from scratch. Ridiculously cheap. Just time consuming. If you make your own base. But you can make 4 at a time so it's not too bad.
@@baz2374 make a big batch , you can freeze the dough balls and use them as needed.
I dont accept "eating healthy is expensive" excuse. No, its not. No one is asking you to buy exotic fruit, smoothies, and fancy seafood. Buy regular vegetables like cabbage, radish, tomatoes, cook grains as your side dish, stock your refrigirator with ingredients for cooking (eggs, cottage cheese, beans, frozen meat) instead of buying prepared food. Eating take out every day that's expensive. People are just lazy and treat food as their only joy.
"I eat so much because I'm poor" do you even hear yourself
I bought carrots for 29p in Lidl yesterday, frozen peas and corn for £1 - that's veggie stir fry for two days sorted.
Kebabs and fast food sure as hell cost more than some basic healthy items.
Four months ago, I strategically stocked up on various types of oats,lentils, legumes, flour, and rice bags, each costing around £2. This well-planned purchase amounted to about £50 and has kept my shelves abundantly filled. With this supply, I’m set for the rest of the year, ensuring I only need to spend money on fresh fruits and salads in the meantime. This approach has not only been cost-effective but has also provided me with a sense of security and readiness.
Yeah, I’m with you. I’m in the states and it’s way cheaper here to just go to the store and get fruits and veggies and some meat. Plus, 20 lbs (9 kg) of rice where I live is $11 USD (£8.32)
You're right.
I worked as a doctor in Gwent area for a year. I didn’t understand at first how a rural area could have so many hospitals but it became very clear how unhealthy the population is. Even in the hospital, I had a major culture shock ( as someone from south England) that every meal was served with chips, be it on the ward or cafeteria. Curry + rice. And chips. Roast beef + roast potatoes. With CHIPS. No one there thought it was weird? I was the weirdo for not wanting chips with my chilli con carne with rice. Like, help me, why???
Edit: by chips I mean thick cut “fries” imagine chunks of potatoes deep fried in the fish and chips shop.
Edit x2: I would sometimes get charged child bus tickets because I’m a 50kg 5’4 woman. My consultant said the only time people here are slim is when they’re in school so the bus driver didn’t even bother to take a good look. Wild.
Sometimes it takes an outsider to see things clearly.
EXACTLY the chilli con carne is the really weird one
It's a throwback to the 1970s. Back then in London if you went into your local cafeteria everything was served with chips. You could have spaghetti bolognaise with chips. You could have pizza and chips. Ravioli and chips. Eating habits have moved on and it would be weird to eat like that now. I think it's something that's just stuck. Carbs are a cheap way of filling up when you don't have a lot of money.
@@mypointofview1111 and now its the opposite london food is super expensive and tiny haha
Yeah . Half n half it's called . You don't have to be fat to enjoy half n half.
I think a lot of people eat fast food for dopamine. When youve no money and nothing to do, eating food that tastes good and feels like a treat can make you feel temporarily better.
Spot on
I had to detox from fast food to save money and it fave me a migraine. I had to order fries or a single burger to prevent migraines 😮
"no money"? how can they afford luxuries like meat? They are British, they are rich.
@@757Princess Ok i don't eat fries or burgers or any fast food. I eat healthy during the day but i have issues with sugar.
I eat chocolate biscuits on the evening. I could eat a box of mint chocolate thins a day and a pack of belgian chocolate waffles.
i went to a health center, and biscuits were forbidden. I dreamt of chocolate toffees during my sleep.
How do order fast food when you've 'no money' ???😆
As a Spaniard it would be torture to eat fast food every day, here in the restaurants we have "menus of the day" at affordable prices, two traditional dishes, real bread, dessert that can be fruit, a drink, beer, wine, water or a soft drink and coffee for 12 to 15 euros, but it is very tiring to eat out every day, everyone goes home to eat when they can.
Eating at home is more expensive for these folks than fast food. Fresh foods and veggies are priced high. Sad.
@@MeadowDayIt is very sad that in the United States, eating fresh vegetables and fruits is a luxury item. I still remember that when a friend of my son came home, he thought it was exquisite to go buy freshly baked bread every day and be able to walk there. He was an assistant English teacher and he said that the menu in Spanish public schools was a menu. gourmet, my son looked at him with a surprised face and told me, this one has never eaten at grandma's house
@@Roque-Cachamuiña-gs1wdvery true. You can only walk to your grocery store in major cities (at most) and everywhere else you need to ride a car even down the street. Fast food seems to be like 95% of the restaurants in my city.
These people live on the dole or mininum wages. For 15 euros they can get 3 kebabs or other junk food take-aways. Obesity has become an illness of poor people. This place reminds me of so called American food deserts, areas with no access to fresh produce, people living in these areas has access only to fast food, like literally there are no other options.
@@MeadowDayoh, I’m sorry but no way. £16 for a large fish and chips, peas and curry at my local chippy, and that serves two people. You could feed two people for an entire day for the £8 it would cost for a single takeaway meal. It’s absurd to suggest that it costs more to eat home cooked food than takeaways, not even in these economically-straitened times is that true.
Being unemployed, helped with my diet. No money. No food. No car. No drinking. Went from 230+ lb to 190. Had to walk everywhere. I hr to the grocery store, back snd forth. Carrying 2 shopping bags. Burn a lot of calories. No gym needed.. spent all day cleaning house. Laundry, car, yard, walking dog. I'm thin and ripped.
Hahahaha I'm sorry but this is the best motivation. I can relate. Been there done that.
It's always seems crazy that some people with less money manage to get fatter... Benefits in the UK are not amazing, so they must be spending every penny on cheap junk food. My home town has a huge unemployment issue, and they are all fat there too.
I disagree, unemployment gives boredom which makes you indulge in food lol
This is so true. Lost my job and the pounds flew off!
Am in college and can only afford two basic meals a day
I would easily take down that Mountain of meat in afew secs😂
These people can order 3 meals in a day. I don't think they are poor. Probably middle class.
When I was younger poor people were always emaciated and thin, now it’s the exact opposite
Poor quality food is cheap and abundant.
Yes, that's exactly right. Access to healthy food now seems to be a privilege. It's education that's needed, as there are ways of eating more healthily but more cheaply too. Sugar needs to be targeted.
@@TheJohnDornRubbish. It is not expensive to eat healthily, if you cook in batches and shop sensibly. Although that takes effort. By contrast…It’s easier to moan and blame everyone else for your faults and just check into the local NHS ego massage parlour than deal with your problems.
@eljay5009 Maybe depression behind the laziness? I think some people just give up and these aren't individuals, but whole communities existing like this- it's normal to be like that for the people who grow up there. I don't understand why people return after Uni, if there is no work there.
Before every tenth building being a food shop
That huge meal he tried to eat... that's more than my family would eat at a normal teatime. And being a frugal pensioner now, the amount of waste of what isn't eaten, apalls me to be honest. Mum used to say, "your eyes are bigger than your belly".
Just looking at all that food/meat made me feel sick. How anybody could think about eating in such an unhealthy way amazes me. I love a bit of meat and food in general, but fortunately my own self respect gives me the willpower to reign myself in and know my limits. This is even more important these days as I suffer from MS, it would be easy for me to just sit around eating, but I won't allow myself to do it.
My Dad used to say that to me and I was a stick insect. Lol.
That was a really gross plate of food. Not a green vegetable in sight. Colon cancer coming up for a lot of people who eat so little fibre and so much animal fat.
Probably offered the leftovers to the other punters. A few plates left on the bar and it would soon be cleaned up.
Someone cheap would put half of what they can't eat and they won't touch it into food containers. It can fill them for the next day 😂
I have been obese and I am still overweight. I am the only person accountable for my diet and health. I've lost a lot of weight now but it's a long journey that doesn't really end and it takes huge self discipline. It's about choices, hard choices.
Look up 'Keto Diet' mate. And read the reviews. You will never go back. Seriously. Good luck. I lost 15 kgs since Xmas.
I agree. At 67 I'm still struggling. It's a long sometimes slow path but nobody else can do it. Education is part of the answer.
Best wishes to you, been there and done that. If only all the other ignorant, opinionated so and so's would just shut up and let others get on with it. They on the other hand would be outraged if someone shouted out to them about their drinks, their ciggies or their tattoes but feel they have perfect liberty to reproach others about their weight - arrrrgh !
Same here @andrewblakeey4202. I’ve got long ways to go. It was my fault, some days are hard some are better. It’s all about wanting it at the e end of the day
@DrZook great advice, sir, what many people dont know is that reducing carbs also reduce your overall hunger and insulin levels, the less insulin in the blood, the more the body will burn store fat (since insulin tells the body to store carbs aka sugars)
The lady that lost 13 stone, way to go!!! You ROCK!!!!!! Love from Washington USA!!!!❤❤
Washington? Seattle's my favorite city.
I haven't got 13 stone to lose. 11 stone here and that's after finishing work I put on ½ a stone.
@@bill-2018 What???
Stone must be the most odd weight unit out there 😅
She’s lost almost what weigh in total , and I’m a 6ft tall man
I was a fast food delivery driver during lockdown. Big people spend big money on big portions of pretty disgusting food (not saying I'm perfect, I have vices of my own to deal with).
Yeah but big people love to eat
That's the point, they are contributing to business, and no one turns down business. If they did, businesses would be condemned and rightly so. What we have to do is start remembering all people skinny, average or obese, should be given an environment where they can grow in knowledge and skills of how to be healthier. It's hell when you're obese as it takes so long to lose weight healthily and can make you so much more miserable when you're comfort (food) is not freely available (dieting). People should try to be kind and understanding but some of us don't have those skills, sadly.
They're idiots
Thank you for the job you do. During lockdown you guys really helped some of my family members who couldn't get out to do the shopping. I was awful during lockdown (at least 4 take aways a week). It was the only thing that kept my spirits up. I've lost quite a bit of weight since then..Its crazy how many calories are in fast food and how I just got so used to it. I guess when you live somewhere with low economic activity/jobs/positivity, it's easy to rely on unhealthy habits just to keep some joy in life :(
@@JasonX2 the bigger they get the more they eat !
It can be very challenging to get over addictions to sugar and processed foods, but eventually what used to be a challenge becomes a preference. Once your body gets accustomed to feeling healthier, the cravings for unhealthy and processed foods start to diminish.
Not for me no. I lost more than 35kg and the craving is still there. It's a constant battle and it requires always to be aware and making concious choices. I can only talk for my self here, but the main problem is that we're almost constantly surounded with temptations that unhealthy food is often cheaper and easier to come by than healthy alternatives.
Imagine like as if cocaine, heroin, crack and the like would be sold everywhere around the clock, as easy like a phone call.
@@CrniWuk You're right. I found that I have trigger foods which I call "alcoholic foods" - I must avoid eating them because they start a chemical reaction in my body, just like alcohol does to the alcoholics. I also discovered trigger behaviours (like eating in front of the telly), trigger times (11pm) and trigger emotions. I built a support network who I can contact in time of crisis - just like Alcoholic Anonymous does 🤩
Food addiction is a lifelong disease, and we don't need to work on the stigma: we need to help obese people to understand their disease. When I was obese, I didn't see myself obese, I accepted my body. I wish people (and especially doctors) would have encouraged me more to work on my weight. Fat phobia is the healthiest thing one can have imo
It really all comes down to food.
Exactly what I experienced. I lost weight by replacing my diet with healthy one. After a while of not eating junk my palette adjusted and I don't find junk food as tasty as I used to. There are still things I like but most of it is too sweet/salty/fatty/sour and all at once. I still get cravings but milder tasting things like raw vegetables, meat and diary.
What I can say though if you just eat less of junk food instead of quitting outright cravings never go away. It has to be permanent diet change.
@@CrniWuk I'm the same. I wait for that magic moment when the strong desires will stop, but they are omnipresent. After 30kgs I still have to always manage the cravings. Congrats. on your weight loss !
What a great watch! Very good interviewees, nicely shot and presented, proper TV journalism, sympathetically done. Much appreciated, more please!!
sympathetically done? That's going a bit far there buddy
Feels like UK is rapidly loosing it's wealth and health
Brexit . They did not Think that through
Don't blame 48% of us, we voted to remain in the EU.
@@HomoLegalMedic brexit is just one of the issues. Although its the biggest factor.
Others issues are the inflation caused by war, cultural decline of the society (transition towards woke culture from the culture focused on working hard and making a living and too many illegal immigrants / refugees.
Lot of these issues are common for a lot of western countries these days but Britain got brexit along with all this
@@behave7583These health issues and the prevalence of them LONG precede Brexit
@@atulpandey6500immigrants are more in Brazil, UAE, Qatar, Canada and USA and Australia obviously
The thing is, a good kebab is not necessarily unhealthy at all, but three times a day, with a ton of chips of course? Yeah.
@@elijahfluw4347grilled chicken shish, pitta, salad, perfectly healthy
@@ay2deet578 pitta is not healthy, it is processed food
@@alexpetrov8871It's literally just flatbread
@@Starrypaws64 "just flatbread" - well, have you ever tried to eat raw wheat? This is not a food for humans from evolution perspective. You simply can't go to a field gather some wheat and eat it. Even if you manage to gather enough wheat by your hands - you try to eat it to feel sate you'll have some serious digestive problems. Now imagine the path wheat have traveled before it became "just flatbread" - it was gathered, threshed, grind into flour, then added eggs, yeast,sugar,salt, it was fermented by yeast bacteria, then result was thermal treated. I am not arguing value of "bread" for civilization but it wasn't for sure something "Mother Nature" intended for us as food. Bread is a "processed food" in truest sense of the word and It is not healthy.
You can easily get by with just the meat
In 1992 I went to Florida for the first time. There was a restaurant called The Butcher’s Shop on International Drive, Orlando. They used to serve a 32oz steak and my husband watched in horror as numerous customers ordered and ate it. We used to have a piece of meat that size for our family Sunday Roast. It’s frightening to think we have that sort of thing in the UK now.
That holiday was also the first time I’d seen people so overweight that they needed electric mobility scooters. We also have that here now too. Very sad to see.
More and more common......another common factor being low I.Q unfortunately.
Along with consuming animal products, the industrialization of food, packaged or deli-prepared, is a huge problem.
People are being *actively* pushed to reject home grown garden foods and cooking "from scratch."
I live in Florida, and I grow a good portion of the fresh fruit I eat.
But as time goes on, I've seen more and more ads for "meal plans" trying to play on the "convrnience" aspect.
The food industry is ruthless and relentless.
Have you ever considered that the people using the mobility scooters have existed but they used to be stuck at home inside their houses and now they are able to join in activities with their loved ones?
Unhealthy food is not the reason why most people are overweight.
@Habu2
Agree on the low IQ. Its a trait amongst the obese..
No work, no money, no hope? Self respect,exercise, grit, determination and stop blowing the taxpayers money on takeaways. Obese people are always full of excuses, unable to take any responsibility.
I used to be a delivery driver for a takeaway and the amount of times a week I'd deliver to the same addresses was unreal,one address spent just over £10.000 in one year on kebabs and pizzas!!! A guy in his early twenties was on the verge of selling his house because he couldn't afford the mortgage payments,I told him to stop buying takeaways so often and you'll be fine,thankfully he took my advice on board and was able to keep his house. The majority of deliveries were to those on benefits,the government should give vouchers instead of cash,that would help a lot of them learn to cook and feed their children better food,I'd hope?!
Lol delivery driver giving mortgage advice… tips must be good wear you are 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Things that didn’t happen…
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story "sun Tzu"
@@dndkillaztreble5317 "Where"
As a fatty I think there should be a voucher system available where people on low incomes can pay half price for foods deemed healthy or beneficial at certain supermarkets. Would push me to buy healthier rather than cheap frozen pizzas.
Before lock down I was 21 stone.
I started the couch to 5k and slowly built up my fitness, then started to workout at home.
In 6 months of no junk food and no alcohol I lost over 4 stone.
I am now 15 stone and feel so much better and enjoy life so much more
How easy/doable is couch to 5k? I really would want to give it a go 😊
Also well done that’s fantastic!!
Nice job!
Keep it up..
From USA
I remember my uncle saying about this problem in Wales.
He was a mining engineer and the miners working with him had a weight problem, apparently the reason was the fact that they passed from hand labour to machinery but did not cut their food intake.
He was skinny by their standards.
Sadly it seems like a culture by now. I just worry about their health.
I think its just welsh people genetically are quite fat, i''ve worked their before and would consider almost all of them alot chubbier then their English brothers
That happens to some athletes. Even though they're not nearly as physically active as they once were, they don't adjust their diets/portions.
@@ladyofthecreek279Oh yeah, this hit me hard when I had a running injury a few years ago.
should change the name to Whales. lol. i know, i know, easy cheap shot.
The trouble is that these morbidly obese people go to these incredibly low intensity 'step classes' and then go straight home and consume 10x more calories than what they just lost. In their minds, it almost gives them the excuse to go and do so, like they've done the "work" so they should get the reward. People don't understand that weight control is won/lost in the kitchen. This kind of exercise won't balance out eating 3k+ calories/day, even high intensity exercise, for like 2 hours+/day would struggle to control the weight of some of these people given the diet they have.
Nailed it. You can’t out-train a bad diet 👍
I have never bought into the exercise and diet mantra. Unless you are young and already fit and slim no amount of exercise will produce weight loss but it might keep you in shape. This is 99% down to food consumption. It's one of the biggest lies out there. Still, l suppose it keeps the gyms in business.
Exercises doesn't burn many calories, watching what you eat is more important
Many years ago, in my late teens and early twenties, I became 'addicted to exercise' as a friend said to me.
I did what you mentioned... 2 to 3 hours daily in the gym on weights and exercise machines, 5 to 7 days a week.
Too much you may fairly argue, but I was in exceptionally good shape. Muscular and lean. (Not now, though).
I used to eat about 3,000 calories/day, and that left enough calories for my body's usual functions.
I think we have a skewed appreciation how calories vs burning them, as you say.
An adult needs about 1200/day, I think.
EDIT.
My calories were almost all healthy, unprocessed foods.
Lean meant.
Salad, lots of potatoes and past and-the-like.
The trainer man literally said that some of the people in the exercise class go to the cafe afterwards… burn 150 calories, eat a 300 calorie muffin afterwards 🙄
Who can afford to eat fast food and kebabs 3 times a day!? Even a week!?
I was thinking the same
Benefits + spending habits.
I was thinking the same!
Good at gambling maybe?
@@antinatalist9995 I never win nothing, I'd starve lol 😆
I love your documentaries, so well made and researched. The obesity crisis is just as prevalent here in Australia. Very sad.
Home cooking is the key, if people were taught more on how to cook in schools then less people would be tempted to buy take aways, at least with home cooking you know whats in your food.
Lol
In normal homes you learn to cook with your parents.
People are very lazy
And it’s a lot cheaper, you can actually save from home cooking
@@HELLO-b1p That is why the UK gov doesn't promote it, more money to be had from higher priced ready meals and also poor health generates money through pharmaceutical sales.
English people haven't got a clue how to home cook
They need to tackle the problem at the root cause - an entire community with no prospect of a job, heart and soul ripped out of a community. Losing weight is great for health but the weight problem is a symptom of a bigger problem. So many communities have been destroyed by the fact that proper jobs have been exported overseas and people have no prospects.
That's the bottom line, unemployment and no hope of improving their lives .
The biggest crime is such areas is zero investment, when generations have nothing what are they living for exactly ?
That is acting like victims, the problem is lack of self control.
true!! But once they've lost weight they'll feel brand new and will be better able to cope with what life throws at them... its a catch 22.
Huh? No jobs? Yet obese? I thought if you don't have a job you cannot afford to eat? How do poor people eat so well all the time? I am confused. I wish I can afford to eat kebabs 3 times a day.
So, watching this my thoughts were 1. If they are unemployed, how can they afford takeaways, which are expensive 2. If they are at home all day, they have the time to cook nutritious meals and save money 3. How many have looked for jobs in other parts of the country or even abroad?
A lot of people in Wales haven't had a job since pits close. Sad
The thing is it's cheaper to have takeaways as an easy dopamine fix as it's too expensive now to go out so it sounds expensive but if that's all you spen your money on it's not that dear and now it's same price to have takeaway as cook really so people don't care now with the cost of living crisis it will get worse
@@ChsM-jk4oy What utter drivel! You obviously don't cook! FGS, it's pretty damn simple, with a takeaway you are not only paying for the ingredients, but the staff to cook the food, the utilities, business rates, insurance and containers. I can afford takeaways, but I rarely have them as they are so expensive. As for going out - not a necessity or at least not a necessity to go out to somewhere that costs much, or any money. When I started work - so, I was earning - I lived in a bedsit with only a 2 bar electric heater so inefficient that in winter, after I'd eaten, I'd get into bed to keep warm and read or listen to the radio. Why didn't I watch tv - because I couldn't even afford to rent one - yes, back then people rented their tv's (b&w, not colour). These people are just lazy.
The trouble is that people who have been on the dole for sometime don’t have the funds to move elsewhere even if they managed to secure a job. Plus if you don’t have a profession and you haven’t worked in some time who will give you a job?
@@pennyfarthing1372 Well, when I worked in a Jobcentre, a long time ago, people got assistance not just to help move if they found a job, but assistance to travel to an interview and I doubt that has changed. You are correct in that if someone hasn't worked for a long time, employers will be reluctant to employ them, but if someone can show they have been meaningfully engaged in some way e.g. voluntary work, their chances of an employer taking them on greatly increase. It really is a case, pretty much 99% of the time, of 'where there's a will, there's a way' but the reality is, as long as the state keeps them, many are happy to sit on their backsides and whinge about their being no jobs.
I've come across many comments equating obesity with laziness. Honestly, I used to think the same not too long ago until I gained a deeper understanding of what obesity really entails. It's not just a matter of overeating or being lazy. Obesity is a genuine illness, comparable to cancer or other diseases. It often thrives in environments plagued by poverty, isolation, lack of human contact, limited education, and absence of food and diet traditions. Sadly, it's exacerbated by individuals who harbor self-destructive attitudes towards their own well-being. Another significant factor is the presence of numerous companies profiting from selling cheap, fatty industrial foods made with inferior ingredients to those in vulnerable communities. In essence, they're no different from drug pushers peddling heroin. Additionally, genetic factors can contribute to obesity in certain individuals. I've encountered people who, despite minimal food intake, seem to gain weight effortlessly.
It's crucial for everyone to recognize the severity of this crisis known as obesity, which is claiming lives not only in the UK but also across Europe, America, China, Africa, and beyond. Obesity is indeed the epidemic of our time, and raising awareness about it is paramount.
The only way you can get obese is by overeating exercise has less to do with weight then over eating. So yes people are maybe not being lazy but definitely eating way too much
Yes, it's true that we eat too much, we don't exercise, and it's clear that we live in an industrial society that uses food primarily to make money. But have you ever asked yourself why people eat so much? I've studied this, and the answer is quite simple: they are seeking peace, relaxation, and a bit of pleasure in life. These are common responses to childhood abuse, trauma, poor education, bad parenting, lack of education, difficulty forming relationships, violence, depression, and many other problems from both the past and present. They use food like a drug addict uses heroin or an alcoholic uses alcohol. We all recognize that heroin addicts and alcoholics are sick, so why don't we consider obesity in the same way? Why aren't we calling it a national or even continental (European) emergency?
I believe the first solution is not to reduce sugar intake or force them to stop eating, but to provide more specialized teams, such as psychologists and assistants, who can work on the minds of these individuals, reset them, and change them forever. The problem isn't the food, but what's in their minds. As with heroin, crack, alcohol, gambling, compulsive shopping, video games, and other addictions, the issue starts in the brain, not with what people use to find satisfaction.
You are spot on. When nothing feels good in life, ingesting pleasurable food may be all that some people have.
Choices 🇨🇦🪶
There were no fat people in Belsen !
The issue is Ultra Processed Food, how addictive it is and how it rewires the brain.
you can not eat it
It looked more like high fat food and huge portions.
No one forces you to eat it. Self control comes first, cutting out bad food, will not stop someone from over eating good food. self control will
Sugar is poison
@@MinkieWinkle they only spend billions in brainwashing us at birth to consume their slop. They do about everything except shove it down your throat.
Kebab in itself isn’t the worst thing. Lamb or chicken sheesh for example is chicken breasts or bone free lamb pieces grilled not fried served with a small pitta bread and salad. You don’t always have to have a Large lamb doner with large chips with mayonese and a can of full sugar sugar pop. It’s about moderation.
We had a kebab at work yesterday for a treat and we had no bread or chips with it and fresh salad. It still may be not a healthy option but as far as fast food goes it is.
Nah not the worst thing but the portion sizes and the fact they are caked in grease means they aren’t exactly a healthy option
@@Rum_an_cokecaked in grease? Yeah in Wales probably like every food there. Proper döner here in germany I ate daily as fitnesstrainer and dietary trainer for over a year because the meat is not that fatty and properly grilled
None european food or none indigenpus cuisine is a huge problem systematically making the indigsnpus British sick
@@rickkarsan4491
Biggest bullshit ive read so far. They are the only ones bringing healthy food to UK. Being fat on average is a UK problem. Why? Because all they eat is fatty greasy fried food, tons of meat and no vegetables and no fruits. Spiced up with mountains of „crisps“ and chocolate and other „sweets“.
Eating french fries every day along with snacks, tons of sugar and the only „healthy“ food being beans and peas out of a can makes you fat
I don't understand how people having to live on benefits can afford to pay for TAKEAWAYS
If you’re buying literally nothing else beyond rent and bills it’s doable
@eljay5009 deluded
@eljay5009 I'm not even going to argue the effort you put into that is commendable.
In honour of your time spent I will buy these ingredients and cook this meal for my family and report back the cost !
@@georgedawson235most wholesome reply i have seen in youtube ever
Liberal socialism, poor people are fat and lazy, rich people are thin and hard-working.
Unfortunately, it's words like "fat-phobia" that encourages overweight people to think it's okay to stay fat.
Not many (there shouldn't be any) people make fun of obese people at the gym because they see them working towards a better life.
To a large extent, people bring obesity upon themselves than it accidentally creeping upon you.
Let's educate and encourage people to workout more, look after themselves more and half of their problems would go away.
I am Indonesian, and even though we eat rice every day, which is considered a bad carbohydrate, we are rarely obese.
There are things considered "bad" in the western world, but I trust the science of my culture & people that have been living that way for centuries 😊
Pakistan, India and China have higher rates of diabetes than the ‘western’ world
I think very few Europeans and Americans get obese from rice, or potatoes. We get overweight from too much processed food, not enough fresh vegetables / fruit, often too little exercise (the car dependency in the US is definitely helping with that), too much sugar and goodness knows what sort of additives. (Again, compared to other nations, food additives in the US re pretty much the wild west.)
Hell nah we have obese everywhere
@@aprilkevin5835 yeah but it still rare case here in Indonesia, and sometimes I also confuse about hearing there's people allergic to peanuts and lactose intolerance, imagine couldn't eat sate ayam or sate padang because you allergic to peanuts. Do they have different kind of peanuts there?
Rachel is an articulate intelligent young woman, a pleasure to listen to. Very sorry about her Father.
Yes. Absolutely.
However, she makes her own food choices! We all do.
It use to be incredibly rare to see anyone really over weight before the 90s throughout the world
We danced ourselves thin in the early 90s…no need for gyms
@@kevinwilliams1421I'm one of those bucking the fat trend
Why’s that when processed food and sugar diets were just as widespread if not more since the 50s?
@@kevinwilliams1421you also took drugs which explains the higher energy and weight loss.
Ok boomer
I love the half Turkish half welsh accent/cadence so cool!
"When a person can't find a deep sense of meaning, they distract themselves with pleasure."
Viktor E. Frankl
Copied this.
Me too.😊
I grew up in an area like this. I've always been slim and athletic, and the amount of body shaming and actual concern for my health was insane. People acted like I was some freak of nature because I wasn't carrying around an extra 50lbs of fat.
That's funny😂
@andrejg3086 it's less funny when you live it everyday. I'm sure it does seem quite comical from the outside.
Having lived it too.... there's almost no words for how disillusioned some people are. Its like they genuinely belive you're at risk of starving if you're not shovelling fast good into your mouth every 10 minutes. The same people who can't make the connection between this and their multiple health issues caused by inflammation and gut issues.
It is quite extraordinary.
@@pingu3984 I have no doubt that their beliefs are genuine. People who loved me thought I was anorexic and were concerned for me.
I had a swimmer's build. I had abs. I exercised frequently. I was full of energy, and ate frequently, and they thought I must be sick 🙄
It never affected my confidence, but it was annoying. It was like a blackout drunk worrying that if you don't start drinking more often, you're going to get sick and die. Too stupid to really get to me, but the jokes about being lost if I slip through a crack on the sidewalk got tiring.
I have experienced this in work environments where most people are fat. I eat a Mars bar and someone asks me how I stay slim. I reply it's because I don't eat ten of them every single day! People are weird. It IS now strange if you aren't overweight to many people.
@@kategwynne4658 As a kid of the '50's, mum would buy the occasional Mars Bar - she'd cut it in half, and then cut one of those halves in half again. That was a treat for her, me and my brother. Honestly, I couldn't even eat a whole one, even today - it would make me feel sick!
From my spaniard (catalan) perspective, these eating habits seem to me from another galaxy.
I cannot comprehend how so many people could lose their connection with normal food completely.
This is similar to people who live in high density urban areas all their lives, they lose connection with what is balanced and normal.
At this point, these people might not even remember how a real apple tastes like, their sense of taste might be radically distorted.
They are sick and need help.
As an American I get really frustrated when I want to try *any* restaurant. I'm not even talking about fast food. It's fairly simple to avoid the sodas and the desserts, the problem enlies in the absolutely DISGUSTING portion sizes you'd think were prepared for a hippo or a grizzly bear.
I'll often order something, picturing a normal, savory portion- and out comes a dish large enough to feed a family of 4.
Why the fu** do I need 3 days worth of calories in one dish? Can these restaurants not offer a smaller portion for a little less and still profit? The "senior" or "kid's" menu is always a tiny fraction of the foods available and often something bland and unhealthy like a grilled cheese or breaded chicken nuggets.
It certainly makes it easier for me to avoid restaurants and save money, anyway. I don't want days worth of leftovers when I'm only looking for a single meal as a treat.
Same with me, a Norwegian.
But as we both see.... We will be seeing more of this issue in our contries too
Much of the food nowadays is ultra processed by the food companies. It is designed to be addictive and turns off people's full switch. The obesity problem isn't down just to unemployment. Education needs to start in school although it doesn't help school meals consisting of chicken nuggets etc are on offer.
Average Anglo food
Me too. And that’s saying something because I’m from the US. I don’t eat out too much anymore. I am legally blind and I cook a great deal. The slow cooker and the rice cooker are a life saver.
Wow, this looks like the US. And I'm American so no shade. We have a serious obesity problem here. Processed food, everything has sugar and corn syrup.
America has exported that diet globally.
What nonsense i love limes and onion and tomatoes
And I walk
@@PraisethesunsonYou asked for it.
Except US doesn’t have any towns that nice.
@@Marisa-qr4fw buy the 50 states 1000 eats book
Nobody forces them to eat, and there are plenty of fruit and veg to buy, it’s attitude not restaurants to blame
So give them food that metabolizes as sugar? 🤦♀️ you have to be kidding. Check out how the carnivore way of eating even reverses type 2 diabetes.
How dare you speak common sense sir.
Foods with high fat, sugar or salt are very addictive. Here in my place, we just started the fast food culture. The cholesterol epidemic is right around the corner 😢
How many chicken shops do you see and how many healthy shops do you see in the uk. Is it really there fault when there is so much temptation around.
@@os1333Yes it is their fault. Refrain yourselves & focus on what you need, not what you desire.
Not having employment steels a man of his dignity…the feeling of providing for your family fills a men’s heart with joy and pride
The though of actually moving to a place of employment is a totally foreign idea to them
And pies.
Yes, so if there's no work in your home area, move to a place where there is work. My father was from a small village in southern Italy. Zero job prospects. He moved away to work...northern Italy, Germany and then the UK.
You've put your finger on part of the problem Kevin. Work gives you a wonderful feeling of being useful and you can't put a price on that. I am not talking about slavery or exploitation of course. I am 71 years old and Welsh (BTW). I was lucky enough to get a free education in university (last of the dinosaurs) so I have always had a career, but at 60 I went to live in Denmark and was too old for the job market in my field.... so I got a job as a cleaner and I loved it (my goodness it was hard). I finally retired only 2 months ago but the owner of the company asked me to work one day a week so I said yes and I still get that feeling of satisfaction and being USEFUL and I intend continuing as long as possible. You are so right. Work is necessary for psychological well-being.
@crusher7506 A positive mindset is one of the keys to inner peace and happiness.
If people are struggling with the cost of living how can they afford so much food that they become obese 🤷
Right??!! Its a mystery to me.
I was thinking the same thing!
Benefits
Have you noticed that its cheaper to buy a kilo of chips than 6 baking potatoes? And its cheaper to cook the chips than a baking potato. It's things like that that contribute to people being overweight. Also for many working people, their hours are getting longer and longer and this contributes towards people being obese. I know myself that I put on a stone last year because I was forced to work upwards of 60 hours a week. I never got paid for the additional hours and my body ached from having to sit that long at a computer typing reports all day. I've left that job now and lost most of that extra weight. Obesity is a complex issue.
@@constancegoodwill2416 these people are getting expensive takeaways all the time, it's cheaper to cook healthy meat and two veg.
You can cook a jacket spud in a microwave in about ten minutes.
Fresh veg is not that expensive.
People that sit in a office all day could try cycling to work!
I cycle 7 Mile's each way and I'm 57 this year.
Looking at all those lovely fields in the distance, a good ling walk would burn off some of the calories. Are there any fruit and veg shops there?
Feel for Rachel and her Dad. Not only has she got the personal battle, but being there for a loved one is so hard. We can all look in the mirror, its the external people see. Talking about how they feel and someone listening for advice and guidance goes a long way. Some of those people interviewed sounded like they hadn't had much conversation. Why and where has the care gone, so sad.
DEEP FRIED FOOD =causes cardiovascular disease. But so bloody tasty!
Society equates care to socialism; weaknesses; handouts. When people really want is supportive information, direction, and someone to talk to.
They have very little control over what food is available or the resources and support to provide themselves.
Our son moved to live and work in the USA, within 5 years he had put on 4 stone in weight until he then needed to take blood pressure tablets which was his rude awakening so he lost 5 stone and is now relatively slim, he has kept it off for 2 years now and monitors his weight three times a week. Its the easy availably of junk food across the world.
Yes. The US allows many toxic food chemicals which are banned elsewhere. In 2006, I lost 26 pounds by eating organic. I ate whatever I wanted- Green & Black's almond chocolate bars were a daily staple!! Yet still the fat fell off me. As a tremendous bonus, it cured my years of hellish insomnia. I'd been 'tweaking' on food chemicals and never knew it.
USA is a dangerous place to work on purely food grounds alone.
Or your sons inability to read labels and understand about his diet. It took a health scare for him to wake up and not ignore all the warning signs, I.e obvious weight gain.
Junk food could be healthy if they still cooked in tallow and lard, and kept out the hidden sugars.
Allows the pharmacy industry to make billions
Large fish and chips £12 - £14 near me. Not many can afford to eat that on a regular basis.
Exactly I rarely get a take away
NOPE. Restaurants aren’t causing anything. If you chose to eat it, it’s on you. Always trying to blame someone else is disgusting
So very true
Lemme guess, right wing American perspective?
@@PinkGoldAbby how is common sense any kind of wing? Lemme guess, left wing delusional?
@@PinkGoldAbby sigh... What do you think is causing the obesity epidemic?
The problem is not restaurants, is that everything is expensive.
A kebab is cheap, filling and tastes good.
A salad costs more than twice as much and you'll be hungry half hour later.
Also a problem is that if you're struggling mentally, junk food will give you a dopamine kick to make you feel good, junk food makes you unhealthy and fat which in turn makes you eat more to get that dopamine kick, and you get into an infinite loop of mysery.
It largely is lack of self discipline. Admit there are some exceptions but nobody was fat when I was a child in the 60’s.
It's wholly not largely, that's not PC but let's be honest, it's the best medicine to be fair.
@@morourke2561 Actually it's not about discipline, once people have been overweight for so long their body pumps out hormones that drives them to feel desperate to eat and others that create cravings for certain types of food. The hormone that tells them to feel full becomes dysfunctional. "Why We Eat Too Much" by Dr Andrew Jenkinson breaks this process down excellently.
Never mind the 60s it was the same when I was at school in the 90s and the very few that were fat got absolute dogs abuse. Nowadays it's normalised and the amount of takeaways peddling this garbage is absolutely off the scale.
@@CKOfreedom
You're both wrong, I've been there and all you're doing is giving people an excuse to not succeed. I would rather inspire someone to have the ability to achieve their goals. It's about the food you eat, which will almost instantly change the hormonal effects you're speaking on, high protein for example will create satiated every time.
@@morourke2561 Actually I'm not, nothing I've said is justifying obesity or discouraging others from improving themselves. My response was directed at comments about "they just need to eat less" and the calorie in/out falsehood & the other judgemental and in some cases rude remarks. Many proper have "been there", however your anecdotal experience isn't equivalent to the that of everyone, even less is it or a world/ nationwidewide solution. Once a person has been severely obese or overweight for a certain amount of time it's actually a very slow & difficult process to reverse the hormonal dysfunction, and just as most of the people commenting on this post are utterly clueless about how that works, so are those who are actually struggling with weight. Giving the public the information they need is not happening for multiple reasons, I'll name 3: firstly because GPs haven't got a clue about nutrition, 2ndly for years the scumbag politicians writing health/ dietary guides were also shareholders in fast food companies and used feedback from those same companies to create recommended eating plans and official government guidelines, 3rd people being fat and sick worldwide is hugely profitable, even in this show they're discussing big pharma solutions. Protein alone is not an answer, and a lot of people can't even afford to buy high quality clean meat, so they end up buying frozen processed meat, disgusting cheap chicken and still eating cheap carbohydrates with it, then winner why it's not working, they gain more weight and are going around in circles. The balance of protein fat and carb need to be understood in relation to an individual's insulin resistance, carb tolerance limits and hormonal function but how many of these obese people in this video have a clue about that? I've seen just one other person in this pool of commenters here who is clued up about it. And gutter many if these outrigger have been to their GP and had blood work out hormonal tests for the actual hormones that matter? Probably zero given most GPs simply don't know themselves.
This is why I've posted the name of a book (Why We Eat Too Much by Dr Andrew Jenkinson) in multiple responses on this page, because he explains this in great detail covering genetic, hormonal, environmental and lifestyle factors whilst remaining jargon free. He's a tho to variation surgeon who raised almost all his patients were telling him the exact same experiences and it didn't remotely sign with what's being taught to medics. He also picks apart previous studies that had to misunderstanding and misinformation about eight gain/ loss. I've given this info multiple times because I want people to be able to help themselves, and for anyone interested in nutrition, plus the public at large, to be informed and empowered, so again, your assertion that I'm giving people an excuse to not succeed is wholly unfounded, whilst you claim to prefer to inspire others to fulfill their goals, I must have missed that part of your contribution in your response to my comment, your are you achieving that?
Drakeford has done absolutely nothing to help the people of wales. But he wont admit it.. neither will the rest of his gang of bent MP'S
what do you suggest? You can request the citizens to live a healthy lifestyle but you can’t force them to.
The fittest that Britain has ever been, across the board, was during WW2 when there was rationing. You couldn't overeat because there was nothing extra to eat.
Maybe that's this governments plan !
They weren’t fit, they were clinically starving from lack of key nutrients. Vitamin deficiency was endemic, as was prevalence of osteoporosis. My great grandmother was fit because she was lucky enough to come to America as an infant, she always had food, even during the depression and was physically active until she died. She also had cream in her coffee every morning and dessert when she felt like it. She lived independently until 98, and was still scrubbing the floors on her knees until the end.
@@Catmom-gl5nt That's just not true. People did eat healthier food in WW2.
Supplements like cod liver oil and rose hip syrup also became available and were widely promoted for children. Flour was fortified. These alone cured huge numbers of children of rickets and lung problems.
My parents were born in the twenties and grew up in the depression then the war. They would tell me of of a massive, general improvement in peoples' health during WW2.
People ate a lot better.
The facts about Britain's nutrition and health are really easy to find on the net, from official and non-official sources.
From what I've read of wartime rationing, what was available was so unnapitising that nobody wanted to overeat.
@@catherinebirch2399 That's just nonsense. Why don't you do a little googling and read actual accounts of real peoples' lives during WW2?
Even better... read a book about it. There are loads out there and I have read quite a few of them..
It is great to see Talk TV producing investigative programmes.
What I can't get my head around is how anyone who isn't working can afford to live off takeaways.
Benefits
@@notsureiL My understansing is that dole in Britain is only like 60 quid a week or something like that.
@@adrianred236 A lot of them probably claim sickness benefits related to their obesity which is disgraceful.
Because it costs a tenner to have the oven and hobs on and plenty more to get store cupboard essentials in bulk upfront. Cooking from scratch is only a fractional cost of takeaways in the longer term not immediately. Plus for some a visit to the takeaway is an outing. Which is sad of course, in both senses of the word.
@@adrianred236 I have been on jobseekers 5 months have not had one takeawy and use food bank, cannot afford a bag of friggin chips.
Something I wanted to add, listening to the last woman talk, my heart goes out to her, and all of those struggling. You cannot just quit an habit, you have to replace it with something else. So for instance if one eats because one is depressed and lonely and food makes them feel good, having someone to call at those times to come round and have a laugh and a cup of tea. Go for a walk, do something with to distract and uplift you, will make a big difference. Supermarkets often have cooking classes, you could look into taking ones that might make healthy meals with proper portion sizes. Maybe go online and start a group for those interested in starting an after dinner walking group, all ages. No fitness required. Positivity pref. Look at ways to help others, it boosts self esteem. Remember you are valuable.
I'm sure that comment was well meant. HOWEVER, please realise that people who tend to put on weight have not been established as the group in the population who are unable to think that doing something different is a good idea.
You absolutely CAN just quit a habit without replacing it with something else. It's all a mind game, and frankly, some people are just weak and lack self-discipline. You can say excuses for binging and overeating all day long, but at the end of the day no one is forcing them to eat so much food. For me, it was very hard to quit smoking. I tried replacing it with vaping, chewing gum, snacking, you name it. Nothing worked, except for me not putting a cigarette in my mouth. It's fucking hard, but it is doable.
@@popularopinion2181 Troll
@@teresayeates3437 People can have different views from yours, chill
Do you follow your own advice???
it's entirely normal to be obese in many areas. If you walk through any council estate the obesity is shocking, young single mothers with their stretchy black leggings so there is nothing to tell them they are putting on weight, many of the kids are the same. they are living an entirely sedentary lifestyle, decades ago they would have been taking on 3 jobs to feed their kids, they don't clean or cook. it is all convenience, Greggs and take aways, they entertain themselves with Pringles and family size bags of chocolate, the virtue signallers even want to take away their last job, cooking for their kids by providing free school meals all year round, unfortunately the people making the policies are middle class and assume everyone has the same ambitions and ideals as them , they don't, they don't value health , they don't value education, they just do as they see everyone around them doing, If you don't see any adults get up and go to work then you are going to do the same, especially when the rent is already paid and the mother has never worked. it is the same with food, they have sucked the ambition out of these people by providing everything they need, they use junk food and the smartphone as their main form of entertainment
And why, because people are inherently lazy if left to their own devices and lazy people will keep voting labour 😂 ring that bell, take the kids back to school
Stop the dole money and 100% of them will loose wight guaranteed! If some one is unemployed and received money for free they will use that money to buy food or drugs this is why imigrants comes to the UK because it is easy life compare to Africa and Asia.
This is one of the biggest problems -being large and overweight is now the new norm. I live in NZ one of the worlds fat countries where I notice that a lot of the children are now being born fat although many will kindly say chubby
From what people say eating fast food is is now cheaper but people have forgotten how to cook using the basic ingredients
I live in a council estate and can confirm this. It’s disgusting. I live there because it’s cheap enough to be well within my means to have a very very good lifestyle.
very informative and very well and sincere presented! well done to you.
Here in Mexico, people started getting fat when foreign food chains came in and changed the game. Also, the rapid growth of the industry sector has made the lifestyle of many people inclined to easy stuff, like, getting easy food.
We have so much healthy dishes and kids were not this fat 40 years ago. I'm a teacher, and it does worry me to look at more and more teenagers with weight issues, as they all buy their lunch at school and they're usually burgers, hot dogs, slices of pizza, beverages with high amount of sugar that are meant to be drunk by athletes, etc.
It is curious but in Spain a fairly high percentage of Central American and Caribbean immigrants have high rates of obesity. In addition to genetic reasons, I see that they consume a large amount of sweet foods, processed cakes, many sugary soft drinks, they do not cook with olive oil, they do not eat fish and for them eating in fast food chains seems like a question of status, while which for the Spanish population is almost the opposite
I heard that Coca Cola is the number one drink in Mexico right now and it’s making everyone have diabetes and dental problems and it’s making people suffer from sickness. It’s very addictive to drink and it’s very unhealthy for the body and the organs. I wish people would drink water and enjoy their health more than they do. 😢
Same thing happening in Nigeria
Olive oil doesn't have more calories than other oil and good olive oil is very expensive.
I am very thin and I don't use olive oil for cooking, the taste is just disgusting.
Are there no parents that teach their offsprings how to eat healthy?
I think that's one of the parental futies.
If people have no interest in educating themselves about healthy lifestyle tvey shouldn't breed
I feel the urge to go and do 500 push-ups after watching this just to get the thought of that battered sausage out of my head 😂
Good man
Most people only get fat by stuffing their faces and drinking to much and being lazy 😴
See the pub was filled with mostly men. Then there is no money. We are lucky we eat well, can pay the bills have no mortgage. But couldn’t afford to drink and smoke like some of these
That's how everyone gets fat, I love the obvious being stated, gives me a giggle 🤭 thanks 👍
They think they cancel out all that food by drinking a diet cake at the end
@Ayat78
Hypothyroidism and Cushings are still manageable with the correct application of diet, certainly somewhat more difficult but not unachievable.
Absolute bollocks
This really made me sad, so sad. Thinking of all those proud Welsh. Anyway, love to you all!
A good but sad documentary. Nice to hear from people affected by the problem. It's awful to see how badly the lives of many people in these towns has been affected by the lack of jobs and just other activities. I need to lose weight myself.
You can lose weight. If you accept it is something that you can control, that is a very good first step. I hope that is a helpful comment. I wish you well.
People in poor countries all know how to cook up nutricious food,So whats wrong with these people
@DrZookYou advice people to consume dairy?! Since when modern day dairy is healthy? Estrogen pasteurised with preservatives dairy, yumm. You can gain weight on apples if you eat too much of it. Lowering your calorie intake to less than your BMI and weaning off of sugar addiction and lowering carbs is what I believe is the solution.
People who have medical conditions which cause big weight gains are very rare. The vast majority it is their own fault.
That does not justify being rude to them.
But similarly it does not justify them not taking responsibilty for their condition. Eat less, eat better, cut down the pints.
I have been overweight, and still am a bit, but it is entirely my own fault. I like to eat and drink more than I like to excercise.
well, you are right about the food. About the alcohol ("pints" and other stuff), without it I would have killed myself a long time ago. My life is a boring, dark hole. People have become closed, extremely focused on themselves and suspicious of others. It is virtually impossible to get to know somebody, at least from my experience, unless we both drink a lot and eventually the conversation arises. Don't judge anyone please, no one chooses to be fat or an alcoholic. As long as society moves in the current direction, these problems will only deepen and become more common.
@@grundgesetzart.1463My dear, please do not think this way. I do understand what you see. But if you give in to dark negativity, this is all you will ever see. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Smile, be open, even when it is hard (and it will be hard when you don’t see others returning the favor). It does not matter. By being happy and open, you will attract and encourage others to do so as well. God bless you.
I have been all over the UK with work - and I can say without any doubt that the Fattest and most out of shape people I have ever come across was in Sunderland, even the small children have guts on them, I would say 8 in 10 people or families I saw was overweight, TRULY SHOCKING.
deep fried heaven 🥰
Yeah, so exactly the same as in this documentary...
So it's like a typical Walmart in the US.
DIABETES is killing the NHS and food supply is killing the citizens who complain that there isn't enough NHS funding
Obesity is considered a disability. So we get to pay their gluttony.
That woman has lost thirteen stone? Bloody hell!
13 stone and still going strong! I really do wish her well and that she reaches her weight goal. She deserves a medal!
They are happy but they are still grossly overweight.
Indeed she does.
I once lost 10 stone of useless fat.........don't know where she is now though 😂😂😂
During the second world war when food rations were in force, the nation was at it's healthiest ever. There are some who have definite hormonal conditions and put on weight whatever they try to do but in the majority of cases obesity is caused by eating/drinking too much of the wrong sorts of food and liquids. I also wonder if there's a growing laziness with some who just can't be bothered to shop, prepare and eat healthier foods but prefer to rely on takeaways, especially when they can order takeaways while sitting down and watching TV.
True plus no sugar
Actually sleep disturbances are a MAJOR cause of weight gain. They can be due to a range of issues and they can be a vicious circle of each issue causing the other issue.
You can be the most careful and moderate eater in the world and if you have severe sleep disturbances you are going to put on weight.
WW2 There were allotments growing fresh veg.
I’ve just done 3 weeks of eating no UFP food. To be honest I felt amazing and lost 6lbs (which will probably soon be going back on…) as researching recipes to eat, checking every ingredient in everything, making meal plans, shopping lists, sourcing organic/fresh/local food, then all the prep, cooking and cleaning after is almost like a part time job. Cooking from scratch is bloody expensive and not sustainable especially when you are a mom and work full time with an hours commute on top!
Correction: UPF **
You don't get fat from eating steak. You get fat from eating awful carbohydrate foods like pizza and pasta. I don't know why people still seem to follow the "low fat, high carb" nonsense.
Depends how many steaks you have and what you put on it/eat with it.
Because it's tasty and delicious lmao
I do agree, but it's also the sheer amount of bad food these people eat. They've got a warped idea of portion size and lack self control. If they ate better food, they'd be more satisfied and get less cravings.
Carbs are fine in moderation. I go to Italy no-one is really obese.
@futurez12 nope. It doesn't. It's truly difficult to overeat protein like a nice fatty steak. The carnivore way of eating is helping tons of people lose weight, reverse type 2 diabetes, heal their bodies. Go ahead, no side dishes, no seed oils, try to eat 3 or 4 fatty steaks.
Try Dr Ken Berry, Dr Shawn Baker, Dr Anthony Chaffee, Intentional Carnivore (he isn't obese now), CarnivorousMe, she is doing great. Steak and Butter Gal, myzerocarblife, HomesteadHow, and by the time you watch some of those you will probably find more.
You speak like someone who has no clue what the Proper Human Diet is and how it is amazing for the body.
The steel and mines shut 40 years ago. People need to stop blaming there being “no jobs” and think of other jobs than those which were redundant before many of the working age population were born
A box of rolled oat porridge cost £2 a box serves 25 servings and you can use water if needed,and will stop you from going hungry for 8 hrs,and provide more fibre and goodness than five diffrent fruits. All in a bowl cooked for 2 mins in a microwave. Simple
Very true, gar, but adding fruit makes it even more nutritious. Fruit is a heck of a lot cheaper than getting junk food delivered to your gaff three times daily. 😄
fruit is glyphosate trash@@beachcomber1able
I've been picking brambles to put in mine, with a spoonful of smooth peanut butter too its a great breakfast.
My father in law is 82. Still runs a small farm with 30 odd cattle. Still uses a chainsaw and gets his own firewood with us. He’s as active as anything. Thats what he has for breakfast every day. Oats with either a spoon of honey or brown sugar. Active everyday and not an ounce of fat on him.
I started my first ever diet this year and started eating porridge again for breakfast - it’s so cheap compared to a fry up ( and is so much better for you ) and it tastes way better from when I was a child
I’m no expert or dietician but I find home made soups are very healthy and filling and not expensive. Lots recipes on u tube and I put lentils and kidneys bean and chickpeas in. They are so inexpensive and nutritious. Soups are very easy to make.
I decided to cook everyday a vegetable soup just from one vegetable. Everyday is a different soup: yesterday was carrot, 2 days ago green beans soup. Just water, vegetables, salt and herbs. Blending at the end. It’s a great addition to the meal.
@@ruru-1993 That sounds healthy 👍
I am a nutritionist and you are correct! Soups generally low caloric indexes because of their water content.
@@gghstlr Thank you
I have a go to meal made only from vegetables, they cost me just over £5, I get 4/5 big evening meals from 1 cook. I use sweet potatoes as the filler. Very cheap and nutritious 👍. Not everyone’s cup of tea but it does me well. 👍
I'm jobless since 2019... it's totally fathomable that they do binge eating due to their anxiety about Jobs... this is not over eating, it's stress eating 😢
Stress eating is over eating.
being obese should be a crime and punishable by imprisonment
I was a mental eater too for two years since I was unemployed. Trust me, you will find your way to heal and a job
@@joseluisruiz6183i was also a stress eater, but i really want to live long , switch to vegetarian.
Live long, i am pro bon veg fan but limit
I was unemployed for a year. Exercise, exercise, exercise! You have all the time in the world to exercise. It really does get rid of the stress. Once your stress is under control then you won't overeat. Remember that your health and a good body are the most important things you have, not a job. In fact, they help you to find and keep a job. So destroying the most valuable assets you have because you yearn for a job is pretty self-defeating.
Great motivation to stick to my current calorie deficit. Thanks.
For thousands of years the poor have been skinny and the rich fat.
Now the poor are the fat ones.
How?
sugar
And seed oils, being fat used to be expensive
low grade nutrition, people eating products not whole foods, produce grown in nutritionally deplete soil, junk food on offer, culture and habits, hormonal responses in those with weight issues, medical doctors given almost zero nutritional training, massive miseducation about the workings of the body's systems and responses to foods, more women in full time work = less mothers at home prioritising family dinners, to name just a few reasons, there's a long list.
Because “they” have developed food to a point where 1000 calories no only costs 90p.
In main parts of Asia if you are a businessman and are "underweight" people assume your business is not doing well and you are poor.
Takeaways must be extremely cheap in Wales. I'm on benefits (due to disabilities), I know I can't afford to live on takeaways. But I understand comfort eating, its easy to overeat when you feel stressed or depressed. People need a sense of hope, direction, belonging and community. If those things can be addressed then its likely health outcomes will improve.
I totally agree! There's a number of things that people need in this situation to help with solutions. I spent many years volunteering and teaching about volunteering and its always a good place to start. When we help others we help ourselves. Its a particularly good place to start when there is no, or very little work around.
I think it starts in Primary School. There's almost no education on good nutrition. And school dinners tend to be junk or semi junk food. Or when it's OK food, the way it's prepared / cooked is not particularly palatable. EG soggy boiled cabbage, instead of crunchy raw shredded cabbage in a delicious salad.
My family's background is Tredegar, Ebbw Vale, Newport etc. No current family lives there any more but my grandparents, uncles etc. would all have been horrified at this. I remember Sunday lunches where the great bulk of food, vegetables, fruit etc. was all sourced from an allotment just outside the back gate. Home cooking is vastly superior to take away.
Growing my own, helps enormously. You eat more veg, you take more exercise and it helps with the pennies!
And for the most part it still is. This video is generalising.
I'm down 8.5 kg from my weight of 63.7 kg last year and I feel so much better. My gym instructor told me, you lose weight in the kitchen NOT in the gym.
I'd say it's a combination of both but yes.......as the saying goes, "you can't outrun a bad diet'. Also I'd say that in general, those that exercise do tend to eat less.
The undertaker must be busy making reinforced coffins
Solid business model that
😂😂
Sorry how do they afford it i can't!!!!!
I used to weigh 97kg, cut out all sugar and refined carbs and now weigh 81kg. I eat a high fat low carb diet, mostly meat, eggs, dairy and a few non starchy veggies, so yes it is carbs that made me fat and it is excessive carbs that cause type 2 diabetes.
i personally think there should be a limit on the amount of fast food takeaways etc a town can have. i counted 10 on one not very long street recently.
the steel works closed down, so we, quite logically, decided to eat ourselves to death.
The steel works were the heart of the community with that gone the community died and the workers had no jobs or future. Older workers couldn't retrain to earn the same amount and young people had to move away to find work, those left had no future the obesity is a sign of mass depression and can only be solved when the community feels it has a purpose and future
@@pallando100 bull**it. obesity is a sign of shoving too many kebabs in your fat gob every day.
if the community gets you down, move to one that inspires you.
this is pathetic whining "woe is me". pathetic victimhood.
people who live in real poverty in places like India and Ethiopia don't look like this and don't blame such and such an industry that closed down decades ago.
That happens with depression you know. This is a town with depression issues I feel.
@@kev_naughty I wouldn't at all surprise me if anti depressants are in high use there
@@kev_naughty oh yeah, Depression, the go to guy whenever you feel the need to excuse laziness, ineptitude and nonchalance.
Makes me so sad to see wales after the end of all this successful operations such as the steel works. I hope some amazing innovations will come to that lovely part of the world and help turn things around
It’s not just Steel, there’s coal, copper, Smiths clocks gone from Wales! Most UK manufacturing / big companies have gone, or into foreign hands. Cadbury chocolate, Steel, car/truck manufacturers (West Midlands, Sheffield etc, even our Hallmarks have been sold off!
My cousin lived there. He never worked a day. His daily routine was his trip to the video shop to hire 4 video. Next to the local shop to buy 8 mars bars and a six pack of crisps. He was found dead in his chair at 35 and it took 6 people to lift his corpse to the mortuary vehicle.
nothung wrong wih that
Truly harrowing!
wow that’s messed up
I'm so sorry to hear about your family's loss. Be well.
@@lipglassHe lived like a king. Died like a king.
The problem is that junk food is not taxed
Massive respect to Bobbi Rose for losing 13st and all the people taking part in the exercise classes.
i live on the south coast and as i sit on the seafront the people passing by i would say at least 50% of them are on the obesity scale, the effects on their health are extreme and the increased pressure on the nhs. If you are carrying 2 stone extra around your waist it is central obesity and will effect your health its not just the huge people you see.
Southsea? 😆 🤣
If you remove the very old and the young and pregnant women ..you get 65-80% overweight .
Outside Tesco 85%
Amazing how so many people who are unemployed can fork out money every week for take aways 🤔
If you spend money on literally nothing else aside from rent and bills it’s doable
Really well done documentary
Why don’t they stop eating crap. I remember when takeaways were a monthly treat. What’s going on? AND, how can they afford it?
I'm a post war baby, I've still got my ration book from those days, I don't understand how people let themselves get into this state, is it depression? I'm 74 and still weigh the same as I did in my twenties, I couldn't handle this much food, I'd be ill!
My mother-in-law is a pre-war baby (1938) and did not learn a jot from rationing. She has fatty liver and type2 diabetes due to her diet. She also has hiatus hernia and diverticulitis. Her cooking and food management/hygiene skills are atrocious too. Her slightly younger sister is the same as yourself. So, I'm going to say that it is down to personality.
There's not one singular reason, depression or other mental health issues may play a role for some, lifestyle, poor nutrition, low quality nutrient deficient food, poor education/understanding of balancing foods, less common family dinners and home cooked food, higher amounts of hormones, chemicals and preservatives in food, constant offers on junk foods, supermarkets with one aisle of fresh produce and multiple of products not whole foods that didn't even exist 100 years ago, increasing prices on fruit & veg, insulin resistance, hormonal imbalance and dysfunction in those with severe/ long term excess weight, family/ community habits and culture and more.
@@TruthMattersAlwaysI would guess a matter of personality. Even back then certain people were feckless and rather lazy.
A matter of choice.
I am of that generation and thankfully was brought up to have three home made meals using fresh In gredients each day. We were by no means very well off, growing vegetables and keeping hens etc.
I have a hiatus hernia but otherwise BP normal and no more problems, aged eighty-five. I am not a good cook by any means but still have the same diet now as our family did all those years ago.
Laziness is the devil here!
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They may end up depressed once they've become obese, but it's not depression that causes them to gain the weight. It's access to excess and poor self control.
@@mydogeatspuke yes and no, I agree depression is not the primary cause for most people becoming obese, however, equally true is that there's large numbers of people that had difficult, dysfunctional or abusive childhoods, they may have grown up in low income families where good nutrition was not an option or priority and a combination of life long poor nutrition, poor knowledge, a dysregulated nervous system and high functioning depression all contribute. Many people who go to therapy for example, have a main issue they go for but have also been struggling with either food, money, or both most of their lives. Poor mental health and diet are often intimately linked.
The people need to start sweeping up the streets in their community. Get back civic pride and not expect someone else ti solve a problem.
The people voted for Brexit, they are proud of their community and country.
If you've never been in this kind of situation you wouldn't know how it would effect you.... This is just another chapter in Thatcherism.
@@tomthomassony8607 *They're morons.
@aussietruckphotosandmodels8510 - you can't blame Thatcher now! She resigned in 1990 - over 30 years ago! Wales has had a Labour government for decades and they've done nothing to help those communities (who probably voted them in)!
I agree that Maggie stuffed those communities by closing the mines, but after 30+ years she can't really be blamed!
@@rhyfelwrDuw to be honest, welsh gov literally just banned bogof/2 for 3 offers like last month on unhealthy products and certain items from meal deals and some people are outraged, so clearly they are thinking of it but people dont want it
Sugar and carbs are the problem- and to some extent, portion size.
You have it backwards. Sugar and carbs are fine, portions are the biggest culprit. There are only three macro nutrients, and cutting out one of them its wholly unnecessary. Just eat less of all of them and you'll be fine. Sugar is naturally occurring, the brain loves it. Loves it so much it turns carbs to sugar, because that's all the brain eats. The other nutrients are for maintaining the rest of the body. People eat portions bigger than their heads and it's not necessary.
Portion sizes are super important. For example, the family food tray that is served to him in the video. And on top of that, calculate how long it takes to eat it. Terrible.
From experience … sugar and carbs are to blame. Especially hfcs
I’ve been carnivore for 6 months solid and unintentionally lost weight!!!
no it's not. lol. stop demonizing foods. overeating anything will make you gain weight.
Whatever happened to personal responsibility? It is much more in tune with the times to claim victimhood.
What about the personal responsibility of the right wing politicians that screwed over these communities ?
You are absolutely and thus 100% right. Demanding being helped is another illness of our times.
Ticking time bomb's 🤦🏻♀️ Love Wales so much, it's stunningly beautiful and the people are lovely. The shut down of businesses has had a devastating effect on the communities. They seriously need a Right wing government who encourage capitalism. Labour have killed Wales but the people will probably still vote Labour
Yeah, Wales has been a single party socialist state for 20 years now. Its awful
I’m Welsh and you are right. So sad!
Sadly you are 100% right.
We ALL need a right wing government but unfortunately we got the useless tories.
national socialism
similar to the U.S. and Canada. The lower the income, the fatter they are through bad eating habits. Takeout is a killer.
And takeouts are more expensive than cooking at home
My parents and grandparents lived through the struggles of the working classes , the First World War and the Second World War and the Austerity years into the 1950s when I arrived as a kid. Every single snap shot of them and us show them as SLIM! I never lost those upbringing values and I am still as slim as I was at 20 and am now 70 years old . You have to decide to act on it and plan what and how often you eat and exercise into the bargain. It's as simple as that. It's possible to have treats from time to time . Our family had fish and chips occasionally , and we also had treats like ice cream and sweets now and then , but we were not snacking all the time and eating the sort of food depicted in this programme on a daily basis. My mother and father knew good basic healthy cooking ! And if people talk about it being difficult to manage - we lost our mother when we were young and our Dad was great-bringing us up on his own -cooking the meals when he got in from work ( as a carpenter). So I think it's time people stopped making excuses for eating badly.