I love how Dave is constantly saying things like, "Oh this is sketchy," or, "Don't like this at all," because it perfectly captures to nerve wracking tightrope that is pack racing on superspeedways lmaoooo
Thanks for giving credit to ovals! I know some road racers think it's just turn left all the time but there's so much more that goes into it. Love seeing veteran road racers give oval some love and job well done! It's not easy racing at plate tracks, especially when it's not your main form of racing. Good job, Dave!
As a road racer I can definitely appreciate the techniques of oval and dirt oval races, irl and in sim. However, unless you already know what's going on, the little details aren't obvious if you're just watching.
I use to think that till I tried it for myself and it’s pretty dam intense when your the one behind the wheel and your surrounded by cars trying to keep it straight while not trying to take anyone out but also trying to not get taken out it’s crazy lol I also found out how hard it is to save tire and still be fast.
It’s only a turn to the left, but the concentration to drive on a constant knife edge bumper to bumper is pure ecstasy. Nothing beats going 3 wide lap after lap and holding those perfect lines. As a Brit, it took me a good year to fully grasp the etiquette of Oval racing, even understanding how to control your car once you’ve been caught out in a wreck is in itself a skill of its own. But once you’ve got the right mindset, I think oval racing on super speedways is unbeatable.
Only advice I have for ya is there are times in draft racing where dragging your brake instead of lifting to slow up is much better, it helps you keep your forward momentum which is obviously key in this type of racing. Literally adds tons of work to the physical aspect of sim racing but is definitely beneficial to getting the runs you need on cars
Its pretty wild when the first PC Nascar game came out, this entire race was the dream, and here we are seeing it, 20 racers online at the same time. So cool.
when I signed up for iRacing, my only intention was road, but being the red blooded American I am, I had to try Ovals... The wheel to wheel racing is so intense, the tire wear is also huge and like road can play a massive role in who wins.... Short track I absolutely love.
Dave I'd love to see you do an oval race at Bristol or Martinsville. Short track racing is the lifeblood of American motorsports. Your reactions when oval racing are gold. I can only imagine how entertaining it would be to see you banging doors at Bristol.
@garyr7027 I disagree. They require different kinds of "work." And neither allow you to relax. To be good at ovals you have to be smooth, like road courses. Both require immense concentration for different reasons. And Oval racing has different rules than road course racing. Your allow to bump and bang, your allowed to shove, your allowed more than one blocking move, anywhere on the track. Your allowed to quite literally shove people out of your way, as long as it doesn't cause a wreck. I would argue that as a driver, you have more to worry about on an Oval than a Road course.
@@devinaschenbrenner2683 oval racing has more of a driver vs driver element to it while road racing is more driver vs track. I think oval racing is much more tactical while road racing is more technical. Definitely agree that they are different kinds of "work" and one is not inherently more than the other, they are just different
When I am running three wide on Talladega sitting in the middle so nervous. We are racing clean & fast I can't do anything but laugh and holler best feeling ever!
That intro was brilliant and gave me a good laugh. And it's exactly why your content is the best. And wow....I was anxious just watching this. Thanks mate!
I'm into road racing and do enjoy the ultra fast speedway races. Several years ago I got to drive a stock car at Texas Motor Speedway. You can't see anything out of these cars. Driving door to door and bumper to bumper at 190-200+ is next level.
I used to race a lot of oval super speedways way back before iracing was even thought of. It was in the NASCAR 4 sim which turned into NASCAR 2002/2003 and I remember how intense (white knuckling) the long races were when battling in the draft. I mainly run roads these days on iRacing but this makes me want to revisit it again.
I was watching one of your videos the other day and it occurred to me... I don't think I have ever seen Dave race an oval track, then you post this! Love it! It is amazing how stressful racing in such close quarters is, even in a sim. You have got to respect the guys who do it in real life. LOVE the oval content and would love to see more of it!
Oh lawd that intro 😆 For real though one of the things I miss most about EmptyBox's content was ovals. He tried to explain it in a few videos but the principles, tactics, and strategy of paved oval racing are still a complete mystery to me. I'd love to see more oval content here!
hats off to u dave for giving it a go. its not easy to race this and just being patient and not makeing a move that could get you into trouble when u know u can make the move. patients is the key at tracks like this.
I'm a very proud Englishman but I do love me some America! I work with a lot of Americans and whilst they struggle to tell when I'm being sarcastic or joking in general, they're a solid bunch! Little bit too excitable at 7am though! 😂
Dave precise alignment with the car nearest in front of you is key and squeeze up to rear bumper and GENTLY push to go faster. Wobblers are slower and any delay causes slower lap time. Lastly practice running the highest lane without touching the wall.
You had me cracking up man 😂... and you did good. Talladega is a crazy track, full speed full throttle all the way, cars all jammed up... intense indeed. I run NASCAR heat 5 and last time I ran this track I was in 1st from 15th qualifying position. The very last lap two freaking cars got together and drafted, blew my doors off on the last stinking turn... man was I pissed 😡... all that intense mental work down the drain.
A long time ago I use to be someone that thought oval racing sucked then I started watching, learning, understanding and even gave it a go in sim racing and fuck me I really enjoy how close the racing is and how much effort it takes to drive so close without trying to wipe each other out a good showcase on good oval racing
@@ggsimmonds1 being an Aussie I seen what I could and that finish was fucking close. Yer I'm a V8 supercars and sprintcars person but mostly just good hard racing and that race on the weekend provided plenty of that
@@stephenrawles89 SVG looks primed to do some big things in Nascar. He finished 3rd in the weekend's Xfinity race (Nascar's minor league for those that aren't aware)
@@ggsimmonds1 I hope he goes well, he seemed like he needed to do something different and needed a new challenge he is a quick learner and his supercars knowledge will help him on the circuits that's where he'll shine. I'll try and follow along as close as I can I do love me some good racing
That was an intense race. Cant beat oval for 3 wide, bumper to bumper racing. Add in the pit stop strategy. It really is fanrastic when it's a good race
That Nesquik car was dying to run the top groove, but hilariously when you moved up on the last lap he was nowhere to be found 🤣 You made that move exactly at the right time, and with his help you could have leap-frogged both cars in front of you to the line, but he was being a solo player and not thinking of the bigger picture at all. I think it was Tony Stewart who said of working together in NASCAR, "If you work with me, you might have a chance. But if you don't work with me, you have nothing."
I ran rFactor many moons ago, and was always terrified running at Daytona and Talladega. I tried to get to the back as soon as possible, let the others take themselves out, allowing me to move up. Never won with that strategy, but I stayed out of most wrecks.
Cool video! As an American and Nascar fan for years I can say that there is skill to Oval racing just like any other discipline of racing. Racing ovals has Superspeedways (Talladega, Daytona), Mile and a halfs (Vegas, Kansas, etc), and short tracks (Bristol, Martinsville). Try the other types of oval racing also. And the cars moving around on the superspeedways definitely makes it sketchy. Lol. I personally like running the bottom if possible but it's not always possible due to lanes moving and runs you get.
Nice going Dave. For something different take a look at the OZOVAL V8 Supercar Oval Racing series. Past live streams on Quasi eSports UA-cam. It can get pretty hectic, but a lot of fun clean racing too. Races are Aussie timezone, so probably mid morning for you, so might be hard to find time.
Oh this reminds me how much I love doing oval races. I don't do them enough though because they stress me out, so much more stressful than road racing! I'm going to have to dust off my oval rim this weekend now though
Once again Dave another great video unfortunately finding it quite hard to watch any sim racing videos as someone decided they wanted my complete sim setup plus computer while I was away for work came home to find it all gone took me along time to purchase so don’t think I’ll be racing any time soon keep up the great videos
As an american, i appreciate when someone abroad drives and enjoys driving stock cars. Also i couldnt relate more to the "sketchy" nature of pack racing. Cheers
To have the top 8 drivers with in a second of each other thats pretty cool And when the car behind kept with 2 or 3 laps you could have gone wide and had a battle for lead, but since you hung him out dry he left you out dry
Just remember to be patient at these big drafting tracks. The moves are all gonna be made near the end of the race. Typically with 5-10 laps to go depending on how long the race is. You did a great job though man! Also if you get an itch, Daytona and Talladega are the best 2 tracks to drive 1 handed and scratch it. Lol
I use to think turning left how hard could it be? Tried for myself on iracing and it’s a lot more intense when you’re in a race situation and fighting for the lead. It’s also a killer on the arms cause you’re constantly fighting the force compared to road racing.
Good race Dave, interesting form of racing I agree. Never had too much tendency to give it a go due to lack of available games that had good implementation. I wonder if you used a special setup for this or was it a stock setup?
Should be a 4 slot H pattern in the X-finity only the Next gen cup has fancy things like sequential gears. they even have 5 gears! 5 can you believe it! But honestly on a superspeedway you don't really shift so it is not an issue. Would also say you need a little more confidence to run the bumper a fair gap between you and the car ahead. You could have gotten that highline a little more speed
I love how Dave is constantly saying things like, "Oh this is sketchy," or, "Don't like this at all," because it perfectly captures to nerve wracking tightrope that is pack racing on superspeedways lmaoooo
But that's fun
Thanks for giving credit to ovals! I know some road racers think it's just turn left all the time but there's so much more that goes into it. Love seeing veteran road racers give oval some love and job well done! It's not easy racing at plate tracks, especially when it's not your main form of racing. Good job, Dave!
As a road racer I can definitely appreciate the techniques of oval and dirt oval races, irl and in sim.
However, unless you already know what's going on, the little details aren't obvious if you're just watching.
@@jeremyt7722 Especially with dirt
I use to think that till I tried it for myself and it’s pretty dam intense when your the one behind the wheel and your surrounded by cars trying to keep it straight while not trying to take anyone out but also trying to not get taken out it’s crazy lol I also found out how hard it is to save tire and still be fast.
It’s now my preferred way of racing. I am Uk Road now Uk oval racer
Everyone who has come from Indy or F1 has said it’s no joke
It’s only a turn to the left, but the concentration to drive on a constant knife edge bumper to bumper is pure ecstasy. Nothing beats going 3 wide lap after lap and holding those perfect lines.
As a Brit, it took me a good year to fully grasp the etiquette of Oval racing, even understanding how to control your car once you’ve been caught out in a wreck is in itself a skill of its own. But once you’ve got the right mindset, I think oval racing on super speedways is unbeatable.
Anyone that says oval racing is boring hasnt ever tried it, im British too and love how technical oval racing is
I heard it explained this way…. A superspeedway race is like climbing to the top of a skyscraper.. using the stairs….. wearing roller skates.
That's cute. 🙄
I cried at the intro.
Gotta love indoctrination
@@pe3396 Lol! Facts.
Draft Masters is some of the most heart pumping fun you can have on iRacing! Great race!
That City Chevrolet livery goes hard. Real ones know
Cole Trickle NASCAR legend 🙃
Only advice I have for ya is there are times in draft racing where dragging your brake instead of lifting to slow up is much better, it helps you keep your forward momentum which is obviously key in this type of racing. Literally adds tons of work to the physical aspect of sim racing but is definitely beneficial to getting the runs you need on cars
Its pretty wild when the first PC Nascar game came out, this entire race was the dream, and here we are seeing it, 20 racers online at the same time. So cool.
Almost joined this race... I just got into Nascar on iRacing lately, and as a UK & US citizen, I can say I love it!
Nascar died in 2001
Well done. Fighting the dirty air and trying to stay close is a real thrill ride. This is why Nascar sims are so intense.
when I signed up for iRacing, my only intention was road, but being the red blooded American I am, I had to try Ovals... The wheel to wheel racing is so intense, the tire wear is also huge and like road can play a massive role in who wins.... Short track I absolutely love.
You tried dirt oval yet?
Dave I'd love to see you do an oval race at Bristol or Martinsville. Short track racing is the lifeblood of American motorsports. Your reactions when oval racing are gold. I can only imagine how entertaining it would be to see you banging doors at Bristol.
Bristol is the place to do first. Fast and tight.
Road courses are actually more work... zero time to relax. However, those short tracks are heck too though.
@garyr7027 I disagree. They require different kinds of "work." And neither allow you to relax. To be good at ovals you have to be smooth, like road courses. Both require immense concentration for different reasons. And Oval racing has different rules than road course racing. Your allow to bump and bang, your allowed to shove, your allowed more than one blocking move, anywhere on the track. Your allowed to quite literally shove people out of your way, as long as it doesn't cause a wreck. I would argue that as a driver, you have more to worry about on an Oval than a Road course.
@@devinaschenbrenner2683 oval racing has more of a driver vs driver element to it while road racing is more driver vs track. I think oval racing is much more tactical while road racing is more technical. Definitely agree that they are different kinds of "work" and one is not inherently more than the other, they are just different
When I am running three wide on Talladega sitting in the middle so nervous. We are racing clean & fast I can't do anything but laugh and holler best feeling ever!
As an American, I am completely..... in support of that intro. Freaking hilarious! Good vid Dave!
That intro was brilliant and gave me a good laugh. And it's exactly why your content is the best. And wow....I was anxious just watching this. Thanks mate!
You even had the proper wheel rim on for the race. Thanks for the content.
I'm into road racing and do enjoy the ultra fast speedway races. Several years ago I got to drive a stock car at Texas Motor Speedway. You can't see anything out of these cars. Driving door to door and bumper to bumper at 190-200+ is next level.
I used to race a lot of oval super speedways way back before iracing was even thought of. It was in the NASCAR 4 sim which turned into NASCAR 2002/2003 and I remember how intense (white knuckling) the long races were when battling in the draft.
I mainly run roads these days on iRacing but this makes me want to revisit it again.
I was watching one of your videos the other day and it occurred to me... I don't think I have ever seen Dave race an oval track, then you post this! Love it! It is amazing how stressful racing in such close quarters is, even in a sim. You have got to respect the guys who do it in real life. LOVE the oval content and would love to see more of it!
Lol the opening.... I love this.
Also, I love your attitude of wonder towards this weird and beautiful form of racing!
I feel my heart rate climbing just watching you pack race. I can't do it IRL. I always have to pull out and drop to the back. Fun video, Dave!
That was a good clean race for an oval track.
Well done Dave.
👍
Oh lawd that intro 😆
For real though one of the things I miss most about EmptyBox's content was ovals. He tried to explain it in a few videos but the principles, tactics, and strategy of paved oval racing are still a complete mystery to me. I'd love to see more oval content here!
It's called Luck
@@30SRacer 🤔
@@30SRacerthats plate racing not ovals.
kneebon5 does a lot of oval racing. He admits he doesn't have the speed, but I've seen him win more than one race using great strategy.
@Bizz4r2m0ke I like to think luck, skill and strategy all play a roll. Especially when avoiding a crazy wreck on a small track
hats off to u dave for giving it a go. its not easy to race this and just being patient and not makeing a move that could get you into trouble when u know u can make the move. patients is the key at tracks like this.
I'm a very proud Englishman but I do love me some America! I work with a lot of Americans and whilst they struggle to tell when I'm being sarcastic or joking in general, they're a solid bunch! Little bit too excitable at 7am though! 😂
I've not watched the video yet, but just want to say the intro cracked me up! 🤣
Dave precise alignment with the car nearest in front of you is key and squeeze up to rear bumper and GENTLY push to go faster. Wobblers are slower and any delay causes slower lap time. Lastly practice running the highest lane without touching the wall.
I love to watch British guys run the Oval! You and Ollie should team up.
You're an honorary American, Dave. We love you in here in the States. Keep up the great work, mate.
Thank you 😁
Haha love the intro. Thanks for the iRacing content 😃
You had me cracking up man 😂... and you did good. Talladega is a crazy track, full speed full throttle all the way, cars all jammed up... intense indeed. I run NASCAR heat 5 and last time I ran this track I was in 1st from 15th qualifying position. The very last lap two freaking cars got together and drafted, blew my doors off on the last stinking turn... man was I pissed 😡... all that intense mental work down the drain.
this makes me want to come back to iracing miss those sketchy moments on the oval
Absolutely brilliant Intro sir. 🤣🤣🤣
That 13 car started to get on my NERVES! Bro was trying to make a single car run on 3 car 2x2 on 2 to green!
A long time ago I use to be someone that thought oval racing sucked then I started watching, learning, understanding and even gave it a go in sim racing and fuck me I really enjoy how close the racing is and how much effort it takes to drive so close without trying to wipe each other out a good showcase on good oval racing
Hope you were able to watch the Atlanta race this past weekend!
@@ggsimmonds1 being an Aussie I seen what I could and that finish was fucking close. Yer I'm a V8 supercars and sprintcars person but mostly just good hard racing and that race on the weekend provided plenty of that
@@stephenrawles89 SVG looks primed to do some big things in Nascar. He finished 3rd in the weekend's Xfinity race (Nascar's minor league for those that aren't aware)
@@ggsimmonds1 I hope he goes well, he seemed like he needed to do something different and needed a new challenge he is a quick learner and his supercars knowledge will help him on the circuits that's where he'll shine. I'll try and follow along as close as I can I do love me some good racing
Missed ovals at your channel Davey!! BTW I thought series' name was Drift Master hahahaha
Get a truck for the craftsman series, its awesome & plenty of splits and clean racing.
That was an intense race. Cant beat oval for 3 wide, bumper to bumper racing. Add in the pit stop strategy. It really is fanrastic when it's a good race
The start with the anthem was amazing 🤣🤣🤣
That Nesquik car was dying to run the top groove, but hilariously when you moved up on the last lap he was nowhere to be found 🤣
You made that move exactly at the right time, and with his help you could have leap-frogged both cars in front of you to the line, but he was being a solo player and not thinking of the bigger picture at all.
I think it was Tony Stewart who said of working together in NASCAR, "If you work with me, you might have a chance. But if you don't work with me, you have nothing."
Dirt ovals for the win. They make paved ovals seem tame. Happy to see you showing American racing some love!
The intro is hilarious!!! Let's go!
I ran rFactor many moons ago, and was always terrified running at Daytona and Talladega. I tried to get to the back as soon as possible, let the others take themselves out, allowing me to move up. Never won with that strategy, but I stayed out of most wrecks.
Cool video! As an American and Nascar fan for years I can say that there is skill to Oval racing just like any other discipline of racing. Racing ovals has Superspeedways (Talladega, Daytona), Mile and a halfs (Vegas, Kansas, etc), and short tracks (Bristol, Martinsville). Try the other types of oval racing also. And the cars moving around on the superspeedways definitely makes it sketchy. Lol. I personally like running the bottom if possible but it's not always possible due to lanes moving and runs you get.
That was a good race. I’ve had several intense races on iRacing, many frustrating ones too lol. Everyone tries to win on the first turn
As a bit of an oval specialist it pleases me to no end when a road racer ventures over to the other side. Always save the right front tire dave
Nice going Dave. For something different take a look at the OZOVAL V8 Supercar Oval Racing series. Past live streams on Quasi eSports UA-cam. It can get pretty hectic, but a lot of fun clean racing too.
Races are Aussie timezone, so probably mid morning for you, so might be hard to find time.
Had an oval race the other day my wrists afterwards were throbbing 😂
the intro had me crying lmaoo...as an american i salute you mate
😂 that intro, Dave! 👏 still it looks a bit off… 😂 it’s crazy that you are the only one that makes me watch IRacing videos. 😊 keep it up 💪
Sketchfest at Talladega. What a cracking race this was! Sketchy but fun.
I ran a Draftmaster this morning. Best racing in a long time.
Brilliant intro, as a yank I approve and little trick, don’t let up on the accelerator, tap the breaks that way your rpm stay up 👍 cheers
That intro was perfect 😂
“Not that leg.” 🤣🤣🤣
Life has now come full circle when a British guy influences patriotism and pride in an American. lol! Thanks Dave!
Oh this reminds me how much I love doing oval races. I don't do them enough though because they stress me out, so much more stressful than road racing! I'm going to have to dust off my oval rim this weekend now though
Once again Dave another great video unfortunately finding it quite hard to watch any sim racing videos as someone decided they wanted my complete sim setup plus computer while I was away for work came home to find it all gone took me along time to purchase so don’t think I’ll be racing any time soon keep up the great videos
Great race Dave nice seeing some oval tracks!
i was eating when the intro started and almost spit it out 🤣🤣 love the oval racing when you dont normally do it, hope to see more oval content
I exclusively play the superspeedways in iracing. They are so exhilarating!
Going 200+ miles an hour and rubbin bumpers is something else lol
I'm a road racer, but I love Draft Masters!!
Hype you were able to get into a good official race
If they hit you in the door…. Right when you shift…. You’re gonna lose an arm. 😂😂
You're spot on about ovals being a lot more than many people think.
Fun video. My has racing games comes a long way from the early papyrus days.
NASCAR is actually really great once you get the swing of it, certainly harder than I'd ever thought
I love how Dave kept saying he didn’t know what he was doing yet he has an A license and 2.2k irating 😂
That's been achieved with luck alone 😁
Love the SuperSpeedway stuff Dave, need a bit of confidence to get back into iRacing though :(
You know you're alive when you drive oval racing 🇸🇪 Daytona 500 I was at in 2018 it was absolutely the best trip I've done.😂
As an american, i appreciate when someone abroad drives and enjoys driving stock cars. Also i couldnt relate more to the "sketchy" nature of pack racing. Cheers
Incredible race dave. It’s hard to even finish an oval race much less one on iracing.
To have the top 8 drivers with in a second of each other thats pretty cool
And when the car behind kept with 2 or 3 laps you could have gone wide and had a battle for lead, but since you hung him out dry he left you out dry
This was awesome Dave! You should do more ovals! Very entertaining, and TENSE
Lmao. That opening was golden.
Intro was great Dave! Haha😂
Just remember to be patient at these big drafting tracks. The moves are all gonna be made near the end of the race. Typically with 5-10 laps to go depending on how long the race is. You did a great job though man!
Also if you get an itch, Daytona and Talladega are the best 2 tracks to drive 1 handed and scratch it. Lol
That was great Dave!
Oval racing is hard work on the head, difficult to hold a steady line and come out with no incident points, well done.
This doesn't take into account car setup, tires, pit stops, wind, etc. Add all that in, and the intensity is turned up100x.
I use to think turning left how hard could it be? Tried for myself on iracing and it’s a lot more intense when you’re in a race situation and fighting for the lead. It’s also a killer on the arms cause you’re constantly fighting the force compared to road racing.
YES! I love watching iRacing oval stuff
Dave Cam what a Legend, top knotch Dave👍
That looked like so much fun!!!!❤
Where do I find this Voice of the chief? Is it from crew chief ?
You really tell "the brit" appart.. It's the only streamer I've seen to release the accelerator when a crash happens in front of him.
Can't be afraid to bumb draft. Get yer nose in there.
Good race Dave, interesting form of racing I agree. Never had too much tendency to give it a go due to lack of available games that had good implementation. I wonder if you used a special setup for this or was it a stock setup?
That was fun Dave .
Intro had me 😂😂
such a different skillset needed for ovals. Great work holding up out there
Bloody, how close that is 😱
Should be a 4 slot H pattern in the X-finity only the Next gen cup has fancy things like sequential gears. they even have 5 gears! 5 can you believe it!
But honestly on a superspeedway you don't really shift so it is not an issue.
Would also say you need a little more confidence to run the bumper a fair gap between you and the car ahead. You could have gotten that highline a little more speed
That was hard work just watching that Dave 😳😳
Exactly what Shane Van Gisbergen felt at Daytona
Xfinity cars are H-pattern. Only the newer cup cars are sequential
New Gen Cup cars run the same transmission as a v8 supercar if im not mistaken