5 Most Common Mistakes People Make on iRacing Ovals

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  • @RawGator
    @RawGator Рік тому +31

    before this video i was a measly 1 irating driver but now I am up to 5k. thanks for the tips

    • @DJYeeJay
      @DJYeeJay  Рік тому +3

      Now that’s a true Arca Farmer!

  • @TChapman500Gaming
    @TChapman500Gaming Рік тому +16

    Rookie: Gains 15 MPH in the corner at USA.
    Also Rookie: Spins mid-corner, wrecking everyone.

  • @JDMcHaley
    @JDMcHaley Рік тому +89

    I'm amazed at just how complex "driving fast and turning left" is. Should I save tires... or push hard? The strategy is a lot of fun. I definitely agree with #3. Turn as little as possible. It adds up!

    • @DJYeeJay
      @DJYeeJay  Рік тому +17

      Very true! Tire gambling makes for an interesting dynamic in races. It can definitely be frustrating to think you’re on the right idea then an untimely caution comes out

    • @kevinlittrell3407
      @kevinlittrell3407 Рік тому +3

      I know a lot of people complain about the tire model, but to me it’s like running a 5k or longer. At no point are you really trying to sprint. You run a pace with the distance in mind. I really doubt it’s all that different in real life besides being able to feel the tires.

    • @dfcteamracing
      @dfcteamracing Рік тому +5

      wait till you can push hard and save tires.....thats where it is at.

    • @Kwashior
      @Kwashior Рік тому +2

      That's a very interesting point JD, but do you know what a Fig Newton is?

    • @JDMcHaley
      @JDMcHaley Рік тому +1

      @@Kwashior I'm STILL not sure...

  • @JonathonBarton
    @JonathonBarton Рік тому +5

    7:19 A Real World exercise from SCCA Autocross school that you can repeat 'at home' that demonstrates this principle...
    Load up Centripetal Circuit in several different freebie cars - the Kia, the VW iRX car, the VW Lite IRX car, the Pro2 Truck, the Miata, etc.
    Pick a spot on the track where you can hold the wheel EXACTLY 90* to the Left or Right and find the spot where you can go around the middle of the track evenly. just be nice and smooth and fairly slow..
    Once you find that speed, move your hands to 9-3 WITHOUT centering the wheel. Now your hands are at 9 and 3 on your body, but at 12 and 6 on the actual wheel, and you're going around in circles tracking one of the lines on Centripetal Circuit.
    If you ADD throttle now, your circle will get larger.
    If you REMOVE throttle now, your circle will get smaller.
    It's the same principle as my other comment about only being able to describe Radius Y at Speed Z with Traction X.
    When you add throttle, you add speed (Z).
    Traction (X) doesn't (can't) change, so *Z+ = Y+* = Go faster, turn wider, with the EXACT SAME STEERING INPUT
    When you remove throttle, you remove speed (Z)
    Again, Traction (X) doesn't/can't change, so *Z- = Y-* = Go slower, turn tighter, with the EXACT SAME STEERING INPUT

  • @Joemamahahahaha821
    @Joemamahahahaha821 Рік тому +122

    Wait so I shouldn’t just drive around scraping the wall the whole time?

    • @DJYeeJay
      @DJYeeJay  Рік тому +26

      Let me introduce you to arca @ usa dirt

    • @Joemamahahahaha821
      @Joemamahahahaha821 Рік тому +5

      @@DJYeeJay I run 5 minute lap times at Daytona with my strategy

    • @rosscrashtain
      @rosscrashtain Рік тому +5

      Unfortunately the hail melon is not allowed

    • @scotttruehart8024
      @scotttruehart8024 Рік тому +6

      Oh, you mean the Ross Chastain line?

    • @bahe_4058
      @bahe_4058 Рік тому +2

      Kyle Larson would like to know your location.

  • @strovich
    @strovich Рік тому +16

    This is great. I find myself learning more every video. I raced Texas last night and completely see how this benefitted. Whoever is uploading free C class setups weekly now to OS Racing is making some solid front running setups.

  • @kdrewmorris
    @kdrewmorris Рік тому +8

    Great vid! As someone who identifies as an intermediate oval driver, I feel like I kind of knew all of these but still am working on how to consistently implement them all at once. These videos are great for people like me who might know what we need to do to get faster but need someone to present it in another way to get more out of it.

  • @SamKatakouzinosRacing
    @SamKatakouzinosRacing Рік тому +2

    Very much enjoyed the advice given here!
    I've been an oval racer and really enjoyed it.
    Turning in by pedal use rather than steering use, and sustaining neutral steer throughout the corner (both front and back slip the same amount) are what gave me better tyre to fight the finish.

  • @weekendthreat5576
    @weekendthreat5576 Рік тому +1

    "Using the wheel to turn too much" -- what you explained just gained me 3 tenths on my PB lap around Miami (ARCA) as well as 3 tenths off my average lap time in the race! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us

  • @mikcampbell1098
    @mikcampbell1098 Рік тому +2

    Really getting myself into Oval racing now, have been able to get myself to 2.1K just by being consistent and avoiding trouble. These video's are really helping me try and get myself more speed.

  • @irongoatrocky2343
    @irongoatrocky2343 Рік тому +3

    A thing I've found and is always been there since the NASCAR 94 racing days is the track coloration.....if you can practice to keep your car in the grove of that you will learn the fastest way around the track.....now this will change when you get other cars around, but if one can learn where the fast line is had how to use it to your advantage you will learn a lot!

  • @tonymiklos6345
    @tonymiklos6345 5 місяців тому

    Hey Justin, thank you for making this video. I hopped back on the sim for the first time in 2 years, and these tips you outlined in this video helped me improve a ton. I ran a few ARCA races and earned a couple top 5s and a win at Charlotte. I owe it all to your tips, especially the "proactive, not reactive" ideology with the banking. Once again, thanks a ton and keep up the phenomenal work!

  • @djbenihana88
    @djbenihana88 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this! I've gotten into NASCAR and oval racing this year and am having a blast. Your 5 tips are things that I've had to figure out by myself, so it's nice to see that I'm on the right track. I've been working on lessening my steering inputs and finding the right balance for partial throttle :D

  • @TheRealerArbor
    @TheRealerArbor Рік тому +3

    One of my main issues with finding speed is figuring out which track to hug the bottom, and which one to be just above it, which one to ride the middle and which one the ride the top

  • @GP_Alessio15
    @GP_Alessio15 Рік тому +1

    These vids are awesome, thank you! Recently re-started oval racing and I'm understanding it sooooo much more now.

  • @cdotcizzle6268
    @cdotcizzle6268 29 днів тому

    The issue with the “be close to the wall” is that every race I’ve been in, especially on superspeedways, is that everyone races hugging the yellow or white line at bottom of track. If I were to run a proper lap hugging walls on straights I would finish last every time

  • @TheRacingEnthusiasts
    @TheRacingEnthusiasts Рік тому +4

    Great video very relatable and informative. I personally relate to the turning radius the most as I used to struggle with it many years before I began Esports recently. Nowadays I think that if I can rotate the car without turning past the A post, I’m doing something right lol. And with the initial turn in, I think a perfect example of how to do it right is your guide of Arca at Atlanta. I found that an earlier turn in put more work on the right rear before the middle of the corner where you want to turn as little as possible. All of these things I applied because of what I’ve learned from you Justin. Thank you so much for all the things that you’ve put out for us. Really appreciate it!

    • @DJYeeJay
      @DJYeeJay  Рік тому +1

      No problem! It’s fun to make these and fun to help people

  • @mrvaultguy1118
    @mrvaultguy1118 6 місяців тому

    Just started iracing 1 month ago. Awesome video! This will help me a lot.

  • @k9burnouts544
    @k9burnouts544 Рік тому +1

    I thinks this was your best video, this shows how much of a mental game oval racing is, my main problem is I start out good then fade but I think this will help me a lot ,

  • @uknowwho214
    @uknowwho214 3 місяці тому

    Great videos and awesome tips. Im slowly getting better in short tracks and ovals but now im having issues securing a pole position but failing to keep pace and getting comfortable having the pack behind me

  • @rolandholt7851
    @rolandholt7851 Рік тому

    Wow!!!! Justin this video is going to help a lot of people man.Good Job

  • @hessZL1
    @hessZL1 Рік тому

    One of the most important tips I've learned was a while ago when I was watching a VRS tutorial and it was regarding practice.
    I don't remember exactly who said it, but I think it was Bobby Zalenski. "The good thing about iRacing is that when you're practicing you don't have to worry about damaging the car, so you can make mistakes and destroy the car because all you have to do is reset. Use this to your advantage so you can learn through trial and error and learn faster ways of driving around the track."

  • @godbob4551
    @godbob4551 Рік тому +7

    The biggest thing for me was learning to control the throttle. Not just stomping on it, bleeding off/on turned my races around. I’d lose my tires like 10 laps before everyone else AND I’d be slower

    • @brockwestmorland3685
      @brockwestmorland3685 Рік тому

      This is what I’m realizing bow as well... I’ve always been a light switch type driver so I’m struggling to learn how to modulate the throttle without having any feeling

    • @acrock21
      @acrock21 Рік тому +1

      sounds like you need to run some laps at Dover that is an amazing throttle control track.

    • @Foxracing1205
      @Foxracing1205 Рік тому

      Dover is good but practice at Darlington

    • @acrock21
      @acrock21 Рік тому

      @@Foxracing1205 i use to run a lot at darlington... i hate that place lol.

    • @Foxracing1205
      @Foxracing1205 Рік тому

      @@acrock21 it helps with throttle control

  • @kalebbryan4012
    @kalebbryan4012 Рік тому +1

    The last tip in particular, learning to drive a car loose(and getting a car loose intentionally in a way) gained me nearly 900 iRating last week at Michigan. Even if I still have a tendency to overdrive entry lmao

  • @roddyeskew3909
    @roddyeskew3909 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the tips, I'm not very fast but have managed to plateau around 2.8k oval by driving safely and avoiding the big one. Definitely lacking speed so might schedule a coaching session!

  • @VaethOjK
    @VaethOjK Рік тому +1

    I'm another "converted" here :) And I'm from Europe :D
    I just got sick of F1'22 at some point, and came back to iRacing with an intent of driving road stuff.
    I've ended up turning to the left for hundreds of laps and I think I never enjoyed sim-racing as much as recently. Slowly falling in love in oval racing.
    And Your tips and lessons are soooo good, that I can see instant improve in my driving.
    To the point, I actually won two in a row yesterday night in Gen 4 Cup at Charlotte :)
    What I would like to see next is a bit more in depth about lane choosing in race condition.
    How often should I stay to ideal line for lap times. How often should I "ease off" on a outside line to balance the tire wear/temp between front and rear.
    General idea of choosing the lane in "a traffic" or while battling.
    Thanks for everythin Justin!

  • @revanevan
    @revanevan 4 місяці тому

    Fantastic video, great explanation.

  • @brandon42054
    @brandon42054 Рік тому +1

    One thing I notice a lot of ppl struggle with is what I call the d**k measuring contest
    You can be saving tires and making ground then you get next to a guy who wants to race as hard as he can on lap 12 of a 100 lap race and they get caught up in the moment and burn tires up or crash trying to get that one spot

  • @craigf1tz
    @craigf1tz Рік тому +4

    I'm relatively new to oval racing and your tips have been really improving my races. I might not be the fastest on track, but often run the most consistent laps. A few months ago I had no idea how to save tyres. The last thing I've got to master is the loose car - I've just raced gen4 at Charlotte and I had a death grip it was so loose!

  • @thomasclavinjr.3817
    @thomasclavinjr.3817 9 місяців тому

    This is great for me. I don’t irace but I’m getting into watching NASCAR and good to know how the racers really drive

  • @AHunnaRacing
    @AHunnaRacing Рік тому

    Much appreciated video. Thank you.

  • @metalvinnyofficial
    @metalvinnyofficial Рік тому

    I use Max Verstappen's method: engine noise audio turned down, tire noise turned up. Listen to what the tires are doing and again, be proactive. Catch the slide before it happens.

  • @WRCSeb
    @WRCSeb 3 місяці тому

    This was a good watch because I’m considering getting iracing and I’m interested in ovals I can’t wait

  • @zednos
    @zednos Рік тому +3

    I have a nit pick on how you dismissed widest arc. It’s not just a road thing, the fact that the widest arc allows carrying the most speed is just a fact of physics! But, you say, hey the lap time is lower following the banking. True. The reason is this - the widest arc just means trying to maximize the cornering radius. What banking does is just increase the effective radius of the path you are traveling. Think of it like this - if you drove a 90 degree banked corner, you wouldn’t have to turn at all. The radius becomes infinite. So, widest arc in oval is true, it just looks wrong if you check a 2d track map. You need to think about how the third dimension of banking affects effective turning radius.
    Sorry that this is really a nit pick, it just joshes my whistle when people pretend there is some magic difference in race car dynamics between oval and road. A lot of the older road course tracks have significant crowning in the road and the lines can look really weird there as the outside can sometimes have negative banking compared to significant inside banking. But even then, thinking in 3 dimensions widest effective arc is still the best.

  • @TheNanofiber
    @TheNanofiber Рік тому

    Can you make a video on how to drive on worn tires? Tips and tricks and such. That would be very beneficial to a lot of people, including me hehe. There are a lot of videos on how to save tires but couldn’t find any on how to drive/survive on worn tires.

  • @johnreams3182
    @johnreams3182 Рік тому +1

    Learning to brake at mile and a halfs is almost confusing to some drivers. I have won a few races by about 5 seconds, and people asked what I was doing, and when I said, "Using the brake to rotate the car" they were confused. It's something I have a lot of trouble explaining how to do because it is a feel thing for me. And it is hard to explain feel.

  • @tamaslichtenberger8529
    @tamaslichtenberger8529 Рік тому

    great tips, thanks! but, I'd like to add one more, what - honestly - personally I'm struggling with. I'm doing a ping-pong between 1300 and 1600 oval, and the reason is simple. don't race when you're tired OR don't have high expectation when you're doing so!
    I can sit down only around 9 PM, after a long day, with work, kids and so on. and my most struggling point is that I know that I could be much faster, but simply when I'm tired I have much worse reflexes (not reacting quickly enough for a crash, or simply I'm not fast enough and doing constantly -.2-.3 worse lap times compared to those where I have a bit of chance to do races daytime).

  • @BScalise97
    @BScalise97 Рік тому +1

    Such a good video.

  • @JonathonBarton
    @JonathonBarton Рік тому +1

    2:44 When I was autocrossing, one of the instructors put this eloquently. Physics dictates that you have X amount of traction available in the tire. You want to navigate a corner of Y radius. The traction limit of X means you can navigate radius Y at a maximum speed of Z - go faster than Z, ONLY one of two things can happen.
    A: You turn the wheel the 'right' amount, then navigate the corner at radius Y++ (whatever radius doesn't exceed the traction limit). This is slow(er than Radius Y), and that's bad. If radius Y++ _also_ intersects a wall...(or otherwise goes off course) Ya Done.
    B: (more common) You turn the wheel the 'right' amount, see you're not turning enough to be on Radius Y...and *_turn the wheel more_* This uses your front tires as brakes, and then you _slow down_ until you _can_ navigate the corner at Radius Y as you intended.
    _Lesson Takeaway:_ *_Brake Pads are cheaper than Tires_* - so while you're learning, being slow because you're overbraking is miles better than being slow because you've used the rubber brakes more than the asbestos brakes.

    • @illdeletethismusic
      @illdeletethismusic Рік тому

      oddly, the 2000s Formula 1 Renaults had to be driven in the way you call "braking with the tyres"
      Alonso won both his titles driving like that.
      A year later, at McLaren, it looks like a completely different driver watching his onboards

  • @connorbingel7134
    @connorbingel7134 9 місяців тому

    I had a weird time with legends cars. Sliding on corner entry and trying to rotate the car lost me like 3 tenths. Staying griped up actually gained me time even though it felt way slower. I figured it out. The tires will heat up to much if you slide. Even though you have a faster entry your exit and mid corner speed is shit

  • @blue90teg
    @blue90teg 10 місяців тому

    VR helps alot with wall awareness

  • @ihateracin
    @ihateracin Рік тому +1

    For FREE? Justin, you charitable fellow!

  • @BLKBRDSR71
    @BLKBRDSR71 Рік тому

    My most common mistake in racing is not knowing how to lead. Following other cars is easy.
    They turn, you turn.
    They break, you break.
    But when I finally get that illusive P1, I can't keep it cause I have nothing to follow.

  • @aaronarmstrong9776
    @aaronarmstrong9776 Рік тому

    I feel like ive hit a ceiling. I cannot get any more speed out of the car. A lot of stuff in this video is counterintuitive. I'm gonna try it.

  • @-ix3mo
    @-ix3mo 9 місяців тому

    How do I get the replays from iRacing into a video format so I can post to UA-cam?? Ik how to save and trim clips obviously but past that I’m stuck. Want to share stuff with fam too. Do I need a capture card or??

  • @marksutherlandjr.2121
    @marksutherlandjr.2121 Місяць тому

    Justin is driving "Loose" that floating feeling I have when I'm on the Limit? Usually it's on my exit. Its like floating. Idk how else to describe it.

  • @keskesportsandgaming524
    @keskesportsandgaming524 Рік тому

    Would these tactics work for me in other oval racing games?

  • @taylorbertrim7625
    @taylorbertrim7625 Рік тому +1

    I tried arca last night first time.... Wow, you can't even touch the gas, I was spinning out with zero extra turning input at half throttle

  • @Bmaser
    @Bmaser Рік тому

    I love seeing people burn tires in one corner and bombing it down into the next corner and losing it. It took me a while coming from console to realize that I had to let the tires come back to me.

  • @BeagleBageler
    @BeagleBageler Рік тому

    Hey ma! I’m in a thumbnail!

  • @yodudechase3326
    @yodudechase3326 Рік тому +1

    I'd love coaching but the hourly rate is 3x what I make hourly 😭

  • @scottleitner4801
    @scottleitner4801 Рік тому

    I'm definitely in the "neutral" category....loose scares the crap out of me

  • @down-n-outinNC
    @down-n-outinNC Рік тому

    Fixed setups are way to loose for me outside of late-models and street stocks

  • @justinkrizenesky
    @justinkrizenesky Рік тому +3

    $35/hr?!? Damn, I need to get into that!

    • @DJYeeJay
      @DJYeeJay  Рік тому +3

      I may not be the absolute fastest, but I’m pretty confident in my ability to explain things to people

    • @TheFelloMello
      @TheFelloMello Рік тому +2

      @@DJYeeJay We love a teacher who knows his worth! I'll stick to teaching music and being mid on the track. 😉

    • @DJYeeJay
      @DJYeeJay  Рік тому +2

      @@TheFelloMello Cool cause I was mid at music 😄

  • @69Sev96
    @69Sev96 Рік тому +1

    Valorant and iRacing? Me too! Ill trade you val coaching for iRacing coaching haha

    • @DJYeeJay
      @DJYeeJay  Рік тому

      I’m unfixable in valorant unfortunately

  • @simonolsen9995
    @simonolsen9995 Місяць тому

    Aussie learning ovals... its about as simple as cricket.

  • @kane1701e
    @kane1701e 8 місяців тому

    hit the pacecar you done hit evrything else

  • @ming454
    @ming454 2 місяці тому

    But not all of it works for flat tracks...

  • @hi_im_sota
    @hi_im_sota Рік тому +4

    Game… GAME?! Did you just call my racing simulator a GAME?!? I’m unsubscribing! I can’t believe you’d say something so offensive!

  • @adamjensen8112
    @adamjensen8112 5 місяців тому

    fuck yeah Valorant is great

  • @YaM0MsAh03
    @YaM0MsAh03 11 місяців тому

    Tell us you’ve never been in a real car without telling us.

  • @chungusamongus519
    @chungusamongus519 Рік тому +3

    35 an hour... ffs bro that's more than my wage.

  • @beanmula4676
    @beanmula4676 Рік тому +3

    Wait so ur telling me right after I wreck not to pull up into traffic asap

  • @scottmiller5094
    @scottmiller5094 Рік тому

    The people who can’t drive an oval track are the same ones who say nascar is boring

  • @MrMW3tricks
    @MrMW3tricks 2 місяці тому

    Why are people coaching for a turn left simulator

  • @DamianVega00
    @DamianVega00 Рік тому +2

    If you want to go fast just get a better wheel lmao

    • @DJYeeJay
      @DJYeeJay  Рік тому +1

      I’m on a g920 🤷‍♂️

    • @DamianVega00
      @DamianVega00 Рік тому

      @@DJYeeJay as a tmx challenger I’ve went against Goliath with 10k rigs and came out victorious, but against guys like briar lepradd, I’m getting a professional c-section and then some. I just think it ain’t worth it to literally drive the soul out of that car, specially in gen 4 cup. That shit is made for guys on DD and up. Dirt is also tricky on a terrible wheel, but that’s just me.

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Рік тому +1

      Meanwhile Jacques Villeneuve with an Xbawks controller: SKRRT SKRRT