Four days ago I've tried the Glide 2.0 750 in a 12/16 knots range (I have also the 725 -2024) I found it super smooth, fast, really quick to turn rail to rail. Great job guys 👏👏
Thanks Valentino, great feedback, glad you like it - you can ride the Glide 2.0 a cm or two further forward btw, in case you miss some front foot pressure. Have fun!
@@obvioustrash7833 if you are speaking to the local duotone rep and are close with your duotone dealer then you would have been made aware some weeks ago that these were coming and that there was the possibility to pre-order - which I did. Shops were ordering their stock a few weeks back, the public announcement was today.
These are some solid looking new weapons to add to my quiver. Exciting new range so I better get some on order pronto. I understand there’s more equivalent lift from each wing for its size compared to the previous model. So if I rode the 905 glide I should replace with 750. I think these will bring me so much joy that it will make me not just a better rider, but also a better husband to my wife and a better father to my children. Can you confirm this please before I proceed with my order? 😊
indeed these foils will make you a better all-round person! :-) and your family will be happy as you are happy...hehe...seriously though, yes you can go down a size, just mount the Glide 2.0 about 1-2cm further forward in the boxes than the previous Glide models/or play around a bit with the position, to get the perfect amount of front foot pressure/lift. Look forward to hear how you like them!
I'm an AXIS user, HPS 880 and the Spitfire 900, but seriously thinking about swapping over to Duotone Glide V2's But i am completely lost in the sizing. I use the Spitfire from 8knots up with my 8m wing and then maxed out as well on 5.5m. any suggestions for the change, not interested in jumping or crazy carving, just riding swell and lumps great video
Hi there, I am not too familiar with all the sizes of the Axis foils, but Jerome our foil designer probably has a better idea, have asked him to comment - Glide 2.0 best for riding swell and lumps, the size with a 8sqm wing probably the 1350 and 900 could be a good combo? Maybe 1100 is big enough though too - what do you weigh/skill level\board type?
Thank you so much ! Already ordered the 750 (added to the Glide 1.0 1085) ;) Two tech questions though : - Is the new profile thiner on the 2.0 (compared with the first version) ? - why not having winglets on this foil (like you did on the hyperglide) ?
The profile thickness is slightly thinner on the Glide 2.0 We didn't want to add winglets on the Glide range since they are wings that are used in the surf and also for jumping and we feel that it is safer to do without these very thin and potentially dangerous winglets. For the Hyperglides the design brief is different, they are full on SUP downwind race wings which are not used for jumping and targeted at a more "elite" level rider.
Hello, I had bought the Whizz 1450 to have a Light Wing foil but also a dockstart foil. Do you think it would be better for the dockstart to change for the glide 2.0 1350? I think it will be faster, but which foil will be easier (I'm an intermediate)? Is the glide as playful as the Whizz? Thanks for your help. Greg
Hi Greg, hmm, the Glide will glide longer and have a better top end speed - better for winging - but for dock starting/Winging, the Whizz is actually the better option in terms of a lower stall speed, better acceleration and tighter turning. The Glide will feel more stable and pump longer, but turns are not as tight. So both will work, but for sure the Glide is not as playful at the Whizz, when comparing similar sizes. Obviously the Whizz 1450 is bigger than the Glide 1350, but from my own experience, I could not believe how tight that 1450 Whizz turns for such a large foil. So I think you can stick with the Whizz, sounds like the right one for you.
Hi, I want to replace my HA 1750 as it cracked a bit. What should be a one quiver foil for me? Should I take glide 2 1350 or smaller size or maybe not a glide at all? I am lower intermediate rider (learning jybes), 83 kg. It should be good for light winds as I live next to inland lakes, but also for sea conditions (Mediterranean). Thanks!
Hi there, if you are learning gybes then I would first stick with the Free range, in the size 1250 or 1500 should be a good allrounder for your weight and lighter wind conditions. The Glide 2.0 1350 has a lot of power/drive and will become too big in stronger winds, so if any Glide 2.0, then the 1100. But I would actually stick to the Free range until you the basics sorted out. The 1250 Free has a lot of power for it's size, for an intermediate/advanced level this would be the light wind foil (it's a foil everyone in my family and friends circle used after coming from Free 2000/1750/1500).
Hi there, good question - the Whizz has a slightly better acceleration and lower stall speed, which is great for proning and wave use in winging on slower, smaller waves. So you could say slightly more lift at least for starting. The Glide will start a touch later, but once up it has more glide and power, as well as a better top end speed, making it ideal for downwinding and winging. Not as agile as the Whizz. Both of these prefer to be ridden slightly further forward in the boxes vs previous Glide or Carve 2.0 foils.
Great video, excited to try them! What size/tail would you recommend for a 63kg rider to start learning downwind? Looking to pair with 8’0 downwinder slim. Wing and prone foil background. East coast United States riding in Atlantic Ocean. Thanks!
Probably the 1100 could be a good wing to start on for your weight. Of course, when learning to SUP downwind, the bigger the front wing, the easier the take off is going to be, so for best success rate at the start, you might also want to consider the 1350. As we explain in the video, you could consider downsizing one or even up to two sizes on the H stabs if downwinding only. If you will wing with those wings, best to stay with the recommended stab size.
@@kovz910 It won't keep up as easily as the 1100 that's for sure. Given you mention that you want to pair it with a 8'0 downwinder slim, and given your light weight, I would recommend you to get the 1100 with the H185 tail and the 66cm fuselage. The new 76cm slim 2.0 mast will really help bring the whole setup to another level ;) The 76cm mast works great for prone as well btw.
I didn't quite understand why a larger stabilizer is needed at high speed. For me, at high speed, the pitching moment (up) increases, and thus the lift generated by the stabilizer further increases the pitch, causing the foil to inevitably lift out of the water?
Hi! Everything is relative, we are mentioning "bigger" stabiliser because just before we were talking about using very small ones for more efficiency when SUP downwinding. The "bigger" stab we talk about is actually a normal size for winging. You are right that if you take a stab which is too big you could end up having too much front foot pressure at high speed.
Hi guys, I am on the Free 1250 as my most used foil, 75kg and on the older side of the age group. I am getting my gybes and looking at next step to match a new Skybrid 5.10 board that i plan to purchase for light wind breezes. (9-12 knots) I will use a 2024 Slick 6.0 so thinking would a Glide V2 1100 be best or could I get away with the Glide V2 900? Have a solid windsurf / windfoil background for past few years and have now made the jump to winging. Happy to get a couple of front foils but not sure on sizes. Any help much appreciated.
Hi there, 75kg myself, just been using the Skybrid 85 on the weekend in some very light winds at Garda testing with mainly Glide 2.0 1100 size as it was extremely light/7 and 8sqm wings. Firstly I would say for your weight, if you are already using a 1250 front wing, means you have a reasonable level - go for the Skybrid 85, no need to go for 5'10" x 100L, the 5'8" x 85L will be more than big enough for you. Takes a couple of sessions to get the clambering on board right, but once you are on the board kneeling&standing, the length really helps to stabilise the board. Of course, the 5'10" x 100L does not have a major disadvantage if you prefer more volume, it's just not as compact but will be easier if you are coming from a much wider/bigger board before. Actually easier to pump a board up in light winds which is just a bit more volume than your weight. Back to the foils - if it is really only 9-12knots/6.0, then I would go for the Glide 2.0 in 1100 size, to be safe. The 900 will also work well from around 12-15knots and have less power than your 1250 Free, but be much faster/more manoeuvre friendly/more pump and glide. But below that you need more technique/a bigger wing. Perhaps a good idea to keep your 1250 and get the 900 Glide 2.0 and then you can see how much overlap there is? I know a few people heavier than you who are using the 900 as their absolute biggest foil, with Skybrid type boards, so it does have a lot of power for its size. Sorry to offer too many options, but was also not sure if you want to rid of the 1250 Free, or just add a foil? Anyway a Glide 2.0 would be ideal, either in 900 or 1100, depending on the rest of your future collection.
@@duotone.wingfoiling Thanks for the speedy reply, my local spot has a habit of shutting off wind wise and as I am a bit older than most riders feel happier with a bit more float. Wind wise the plan is to see if I can extend the range of the board with a new 7.0m Ventis for low wind days (1100), and the 900 for 6.0-5.0 days when we have a 0.5 to1m wind swell and gusty conditions. Your reply pretty much answered my questions but good to have the feedback. One other question on the Glide V2, it is mentioned to move the mast track forward 2cm? is that the same for the Skybrid boards? And can you explain the reason for this? More speed from board helping lift? or due to new design changes creating more powerful foils. Thanks.
ah, ok understood - so stick with the 5'10" - good choice on the 7.0 Ventis, an 8.0 is not needed at your weight and the 7.0 is much better for riders of your level/weight/with a Skybrid. 1100/900 is a perfect combo! The Glide 2.0 H back wing is designed to bring the centre of pressure/lift closer to the front wing, therefore you need to move it slightly further forward vs Glide 1.0 to get a good front foot pressure. If used with a lower aspect P back wing (from Glide 1.0 series), then no need to move it. The Skybrids do however give quite a bit more lift to start than the shorter/wider boards, plus the tracks are anyway further forward and extra long , so placing right in the centre should work fine, this is where I have mine, with the 1100 it could actually even go back a bit from there.
I'm an intermediate rider looking for something faster than my current 1500HA (82kg/intermediate level) With my current setup my top speed is approximately 16-17kt and average cruising speed is approximately 14kt, I would be happy to reach a top speed of 22-23kt. please what size of Glide 2 would you recommend ?
Hi there, without knowing wing sizes or wind strength, I would reccomend the new Glide 2.0 in size 900 or 1100, both will hit 22-23 knots, especially the 900 easily, but it may be a step too far from your current 1500HA in lighter winds.
We have recorded very similar top speeds on the new 750 compared to the old 725, but the 750 pumps way better than the 725, actually it almost matches the pump ability of the previous generation 1085 😮
@@BonieuxJerome great! which SLS wing is the fastest on the whole lineup ? We could say is the smallest ? which is the glide, or the 850 carve2.0 is faster than all ?
@@vitulinu01 Carve 850 SLS and Glide 750/725 SLS have the best top speed, they are both quite similar, I have personally recorded both up to 28knots top speed over 2sec.
Four days ago I've tried the Glide 2.0 750 in a 12/16 knots range (I have also the 725 -2024) I found it super smooth, fast, really quick to turn rail to rail. Great job guys 👏👏
Thanks Valentino, great feedback, glad you like it - you can ride the Glide 2.0 a cm or two further forward btw, in case you miss some front foot pressure. Have fun!
Had a 750 and 900 on order for weeks now - patiently waiting for it to arrive in the UK :)
How did you order them weeks ago? They only released today. Did you order last years model?
@@obvioustrash7833 if you are speaking to the local duotone rep and are close with your duotone dealer then you would have been made aware some weeks ago that these were coming and that there was the possibility to pre-order - which I did. Shops were ordering their stock a few weeks back, the public announcement was today.
These are some solid looking new weapons to add to my quiver. Exciting new range so I better get some on order pronto. I understand there’s more equivalent lift from each wing for its size compared to the previous model. So if I rode the 905 glide I should replace with 750. I think these will bring me so much joy that it will make me not just a better rider, but also a better husband to my wife and a better father to my children. Can you confirm this please before I proceed with my order? 😊
indeed these foils will make you a better all-round person! :-) and your family will be happy as you are happy...hehe...seriously though, yes you can go down a size, just mount the Glide 2.0 about 1-2cm further forward in the boxes than the previous Glide models/or play around a bit with the position, to get the perfect amount of front foot pressure/lift. Look forward to hear how you like them!
I'm an AXIS user, HPS 880 and the Spitfire 900, but seriously thinking about swapping over to Duotone Glide V2's But i am completely lost in the sizing. I use the Spitfire from 8knots up with my 8m wing and then maxed out as well on 5.5m. any suggestions for the change, not interested in jumping or crazy carving, just riding swell and lumps great video
Hi there, I am not too familiar with all the sizes of the Axis foils, but Jerome our foil designer probably has a better idea, have asked him to comment - Glide 2.0 best for riding swell and lumps, the size with a 8sqm wing probably the 1350 and 900 could be a good combo? Maybe 1100 is big enough though too - what do you weigh/skill level\board type?
Hi, I would say that the Glide 2.0 900 could be a good choice for you to replace your Axis wings.
Thank you so much ! Already ordered the 750 (added to the Glide 1.0 1085) ;)
Two tech questions though :
- Is the new profile thiner on the 2.0 (compared with the first version) ?
- why not having winglets on this foil (like you did on the hyperglide) ?
I have that same question about the profile thickness.
The profile thickness is slightly thinner on the Glide 2.0
We didn't want to add winglets on the Glide range since they are wings that are used in the surf and also for jumping and we feel that it is safer to do without these very thin and potentially dangerous winglets.
For the Hyperglides the design brief is different, they are full on SUP downwind race wings which are not used for jumping and targeted at a more "elite" level rider.
@@BonieuxJerome thank you very much :)
Hello,
I had bought the Whizz 1450 to have a Light Wing foil but also a dockstart foil.
Do you think it would be better for the dockstart to change for the glide 2.0 1350? I think it will be faster, but which foil will be easier (I'm an intermediate)? Is the glide as playful as the Whizz?
Thanks for your help.
Greg
Hi Greg, hmm, the Glide will glide longer and have a better top end speed - better for winging - but for dock starting/Winging, the Whizz is actually the better option in terms of a lower stall speed, better acceleration and tighter turning. The Glide will feel more stable and pump longer, but turns are not as tight. So both will work, but for sure the Glide is not as playful at the Whizz, when comparing similar sizes. Obviously the Whizz 1450 is bigger than the Glide 1350, but from my own experience, I could not believe how tight that 1450 Whizz turns for such a large foil. So I think you can stick with the Whizz, sounds like the right one for you.
Hi, I want to replace my HA 1750 as it cracked a bit. What should be a one quiver foil for me? Should I take glide 2 1350 or smaller size or maybe not a glide at all? I am lower intermediate rider (learning jybes), 83 kg. It should be good for light winds as I live next to inland lakes, but also for sea conditions (Mediterranean). Thanks!
Hi there, if you are learning gybes then I would first stick with the Free range, in the size 1250 or 1500 should be a good allrounder for your weight and lighter wind conditions. The Glide 2.0 1350 has a lot of power/drive and will become too big in stronger winds, so if any Glide 2.0, then the 1100. But I would actually stick to the Free range until you the basics sorted out. The 1250 Free has a lot of power for it's size, for an intermediate/advanced level this would be the light wind foil (it's a foil everyone in my family and friends circle used after coming from Free 2000/1750/1500).
What is the lift like (and also speed) of the 1100 Glide 2.0 compared to the Whizz 1000 ?
Hi there, good question - the Whizz has a slightly better acceleration and lower stall speed, which is great for proning and wave use in winging on slower, smaller waves. So you could say slightly more lift at least for starting. The Glide will start a touch later, but once up it has more glide and power, as well as a better top end speed, making it ideal for downwinding and winging. Not as agile as the Whizz. Both of these prefer to be ridden slightly further forward in the boxes vs previous Glide or Carve 2.0 foils.
Great video, excited to try them! What size/tail would you recommend for a 63kg rider to start learning downwind? Looking to pair with 8’0 downwinder slim. Wing and prone foil background. East coast United States riding in Atlantic Ocean. Thanks!
Probably the 1100 could be a good wing to start on for your weight. Of course, when learning to SUP downwind, the bigger the front wing, the easier the take off is going to be, so for best success rate at the start, you might also want to consider the 1350.
As we explain in the video, you could consider downsizing one or even up to two sizes on the H stabs if downwinding only. If you will wing with those wings, best to stay with the recommended stab size.
Got it, thank you! Even though the 1350 would be easier to paddle up, do you think it would have enough speed to keep up with ocean bumps?
@@kovz910 It won't keep up as easily as the 1100 that's for sure. Given you mention that you want to pair it with a 8'0 downwinder slim, and given your light weight, I would recommend you to get the 1100 with the H185 tail and the 66cm fuselage. The new 76cm slim 2.0 mast will really help bring the whole setup to another level ;) The 76cm mast works great for prone as well btw.
Rather than get a smaller H stab for more pump and glide can I shim, and how much?
Yes you can also shim with our regative shims, -0.3 or -0.6deg, but it won't be quite as effective as going one size smaller on the stab.
I didn't quite understand why a larger stabilizer is needed at high speed. For me, at high speed, the pitching moment (up) increases, and thus the lift generated by the stabilizer further increases the pitch, causing the foil to inevitably lift out of the water?
Hi! Everything is relative, we are mentioning "bigger" stabiliser because just before we were talking about using very small ones for more efficiency when SUP downwinding. The "bigger" stab we talk about is actually a normal size for winging. You are right that if you take a stab which is too big you could end up having too much front foot pressure at high speed.
Hi guys, I am on the Free 1250 as my most used foil, 75kg and on the older side of the age group. I am getting my gybes and looking at next step to match a new Skybrid 5.10 board that i plan to purchase for light wind breezes. (9-12 knots) I will use a 2024 Slick 6.0 so thinking would a Glide V2 1100 be best or could I get away with the Glide V2 900? Have a solid windsurf / windfoil background for past few years and have now made the jump to winging. Happy to get a couple of front foils but not sure on sizes. Any help much appreciated.
Hi there, 75kg myself, just been using the Skybrid 85 on the weekend in some very light winds at Garda testing with mainly Glide 2.0 1100 size as it was extremely light/7 and 8sqm wings. Firstly I would say for your weight, if you are already using a 1250 front wing, means you have a reasonable level - go for the Skybrid 85, no need to go for 5'10" x 100L, the 5'8" x 85L will be more than big enough for you. Takes a couple of sessions to get the clambering on board right, but once you are on the board kneeling&standing, the length really helps to stabilise the board. Of course, the 5'10" x 100L does not have a major disadvantage if you prefer more volume, it's just not as compact but will be easier if you are coming from a much wider/bigger board before. Actually easier to pump a board up in light winds which is just a bit more volume than your weight.
Back to the foils - if it is really only 9-12knots/6.0, then I would go for the Glide 2.0 in 1100 size, to be safe. The 900 will also work well from around 12-15knots and have less power than your 1250 Free, but be much faster/more manoeuvre friendly/more pump and glide. But below that you need more technique/a bigger wing. Perhaps a good idea to keep your 1250 and get the 900 Glide 2.0 and then you can see how much overlap there is? I know a few people heavier than you who are using the 900 as their absolute biggest foil, with Skybrid type boards, so it does have a lot of power for its size. Sorry to offer too many options, but was also not sure if you want to rid of the 1250 Free, or just add a foil? Anyway a Glide 2.0 would be ideal, either in 900 or 1100, depending on the rest of your future collection.
@@duotone.wingfoiling Thanks for the speedy reply, my local spot has a habit of shutting off wind wise and as I am a bit older than most riders feel happier with a bit more float. Wind wise the plan is to see if I can extend the range of the board with a new 7.0m Ventis for low wind days (1100), and the 900 for 6.0-5.0 days when we have a 0.5 to1m wind swell and gusty conditions. Your reply pretty much answered my questions but good to have the feedback. One other question on the Glide V2, it is mentioned to move the mast track forward 2cm? is that the same for the Skybrid boards? And can you explain the reason for this? More speed from board helping lift? or due to new design changes creating more powerful foils. Thanks.
ah, ok understood - so stick with the 5'10" - good choice on the 7.0 Ventis, an 8.0 is not needed at your weight and the 7.0 is much better for riders of your level/weight/with a Skybrid. 1100/900 is a perfect combo! The Glide 2.0 H back wing is designed to bring the centre of pressure/lift closer to the front wing, therefore you need to move it slightly further forward vs Glide 1.0 to get a good front foot pressure. If used with a lower aspect P back wing (from Glide 1.0 series), then no need to move it.
The Skybrids do however give quite a bit more lift to start than the shorter/wider boards, plus the tracks are anyway further forward and extra long , so placing right in the centre should work fine, this is where I have mine, with the 1100 it could actually even go back a bit from there.
@@duotone.wingfoiling Many thanks for all the answers to my questions, and the tips for tuning the foils.
I'm an intermediate rider looking for something faster than my current 1500HA (82kg/intermediate level) With my current setup my top speed is approximately 16-17kt and average cruising speed is approximately 14kt, I would be happy to reach a top speed of 22-23kt. please what size of Glide 2 would you recommend ?
Hi there, without knowing wing sizes or wind strength, I would reccomend the new Glide 2.0 in size 900 or 1100, both will hit 22-23 knots, especially the 900 easily, but it may be a step too far from your current 1500HA in lighter winds.
is the glide 2.0 750 faster then the glide 725 ?
We have recorded very similar top speeds on the new 750 compared to the old 725, but the 750 pumps way better than the 725, actually it almost matches the pump ability of the previous generation 1085 😮
@@BonieuxJerome great! which SLS wing is the fastest on the whole lineup ? We could say is the smallest ? which is the glide, or the 850 carve2.0 is faster than all ?
@@vitulinu01 Carve 850 SLS and Glide 750/725 SLS have the best top speed, they are both quite similar, I have personally recorded both up to 28knots top speed over 2sec.