The Isle News Updates: Grabbing Bug, Utah Grapple, Troodon, Kentro, Maia, Test Patch Notes, More
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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Nice to see balance starting to happen with the grapple mechanic, a lot work being put into this HT, which is great of course
I Can't with this devs yall, the way they answer some questions with 100% passive agressive mode are SO UNECESSARY like ???
this is grow a$$ adults comunicating with their own playerbase by the way, looks like dondi only hire his type...
blud you look like a fruity lil wiener shut up
imagine for just a moment you were one of those devs... Everyday you have people whom have never coded or made any type of video game in their lives come to you demanding things, making assumptions, dragging your work and your names through the mud, over things that are in constant change anyhow. could you just put down your own ego for a moment and realize the bullshit a lot of the community throws at them? seriously. its 20 dollar game. get over yourself because you would be on guard every time someone comes at you too.
like what do you do for work? maybe your parents pay for everything. i dont know. but imagine people coming into your field of expertise with no understanding or experience, telling you how to do your job? that shit fucking sucks, and 9/10 times that person is wrong. you all are incredibly toxic. who the fuck would want to build or do anything for the community when this is how you are constantly treated?
grow up and get a perspective outside your own assholes,
Because that's exactly how most people treat them, and have been treating them for years. This community is insatiable. Full of preteens with no patience and a tick to complain when the devs test something out to see what people think. If you ask respectfully, they will respond respectfully. Please stop acting like you guys aren't being rude yourselves when something is different, changes, added, removed, or delayed. You get what you serve.
Imagine complaining about a games development that doesn't cost you any in game currencies, your currency (other then first purchase), or subscriptions, or for skins or any other micro transaction... Especially in 2024.. you guys are really not helping.. they obviously have the games best interest at heart. other wise they would be shake the pennies out of you!
One raptor should not be able to pin things above 750-1000 kg at all. May it be red on hp, stam, hunger, water, oxygen, nutrients, anything. And I am glad that this is actually their next approach. To have thresholds set in place.
*Sage nod* I knew that pounce would get fixed, and rightfully so.
I don’t think the Omni players who defended it understood just how absurd it was.
*Sonic Frontiers reference?*
Can you tell me what exactly happened?
"You guys are lucky Dondi is the one balancing this game."
Is that gaslighting? That feels a lot like gaslighting.
Because it 100% is. I love this game, but the Devs are *notorious* for gaslighting the players.
Its a veiled threat, among other things
I would say that that's a self-deprecating joke because he said "I would do much worse" after that comment but sure.
@@bruhbrother4805 Thats only self depreciating if hes actually admitting theres something wrong with that... which hes aggressively (and threateningly) taking the other stance "I/we could do worse, and might"
😂
No way Filipe was chill with a single Utah pinging a carno
There are conditions to be met to achieve that. If those conditions are met, then yeah it's fine. If grapple happens without those conditions being met, you need to report it.
Yeah that is just dumb. Yes if the Carno is about 5-10% stam maybe. But in that case, should we remove stuff from all dinos based on their stam, like a stego cant swing if under 10%? I think not. Raptors are most op dino in the game no doubt. That is why all I have seen for last couple hours is almost only either a Raptor or a cera and dibble since it is new.
@@athleticventure5694 you haven't paid attention, did you?
Filipe has alot of wild views... I dont like him at this point... Hes become a much more radical, close minded, arrogant, and antagonistic individual as time has gone on
@@tandava-089 Well I don't like you, you have become radical, close minded, arrogant and antagonistic individual as time has gone on.
It amazes me how much of an ego these devs have. But then again it shouldn't surprise me.
what about the egos of the community?.. its 2 way street always mate. you would be pissed to if you had to deal with that angry mob on the daily.
@@soulfullcreations7308 Correct. I say this all the time. This community has an abysmal attitude. I'd get sick of it too.
@@mariadracona Im creating a Tutorial on how to play this game. Iv started with Pteranodon.
I see some many people complain about things that aren't actually in game problems.
its player problems.
So started a guide for people to be able to skip the growing pains and learn critical thinking. have a look pls. i would love feedback to ensure that it would actually help new players!
i dont know what they are smoking but yes the ping got worse even when it shows me on the server list that its 30 ping, i get 100 ping ingame, completly unplayable, getting hit when im not getting hit and not knowing if i have hit or why it didnt hit
100 ping is completely fine lol, it only gets truly bad when its near 200 ping
@@The_Primitive No its not, 100 is not playable when everyone is porting around
@@thefirstblank607 well then maybe the ping is actually worse than 100 or there's something wrong with the servers, because i've been been playing with more than 100 ping my entire life and this almost never happens to me in any online game
@@The_Primitive could be, its all very strange, i also had a bug where the day night cicle is really fast, lets just hope they fix that before going puplic
@@thefirstblank607 yes
I feel like 2 pounces for something like a pachy is unreasonable, for carno, dibble and teno, sure it's required. But a Pachy and Raptor aren't far in weight and if a pachy is exhausted having 450kg jumping on it should pin it.
The problem that comes with it is that one pin from a Raptor and you are screwed, it could just one shot you. There is a reason the servers are like 60% raptors. Before this and before bleed got so insanely good it was actually required skill to play Raptor and kill bigger stuff. Which you actually could. A solo Raptor could kill any dino in the game with good success rate
if its tired sure, but otherwise why play pachy if a carnivore faster then you can one tap you
@@athleticventure5694 when I see Pachys aggroing carnivores for no reason it really removes all sympathy I have for this point. If you're not managing your stamina you should get punished.
A pachy can immediately disable an omni if they're anywhere near decent. The pachys role here is to get a body fracture or leg (absolute best case scenario) and then RUN 90% of pachys will get any feature and try and immediately kill the omni, if they succeed, nice. However most omnis will be in a pack and the pachy will get punished. Which is should. If you're not disabling your attacker and running you're asking to get killed.
Grapple was added so solo players respect omni "packs" solo omni isn't a pack, if you're a good enough omni you can kill a pachy. Expect it to be harder since you're by yourself.
what is up with the piss poor attitude the devs have towards their own community that's so unprofessional
They literally flipping us off with everything
@TnaxL
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@@Smokecall thanks for the info
Oh, please. The Isle community is one of the most openly hostile to devs I have ever seen.
@TnaxL figured you'd might enjoy a bit of British wit over our shared frustration
6:23 WHY TF DID THEY INCREASED DIBBLES WEIGHT BY 50%?????
OMG RIGHT I WAS ASTONISHED WHEN I SAY THAT DOES THAT MEAN DIBBLES ARE 3 TONS NOW, THATS INSANE
they 100 percent teasing us for allo coming, bc other than that they have absolutely no reason to buff its weight
@@africananimalogist4190 allo is coming probably :)
Everything is adding up first the mysterious shadow that looked like allo , then grapple mechanic which allo probably has too , and now this weight increase, like 1500 dibble was already more than enough to kick carnos and ceras asses , I feel like they are making dibble , ready for allo .
0:46 no way bro just said “so?” 💀
Idk what your yapping about man seems balanced to me 😂
It’s really not 😭
The situation described the grapple mechanic working without a problem, meanwhile the entire discussion started with the statement that it is broken (=don't function properly), which wasn't the case. So it is totally understandable that he didn't understand the problem and asked "So(what is the problem)?".
First and foremost, Filipe is a programmer. He deals with numbers all the time. I am working with people like that and the way how you need to explain/describe things to them in order to get the grasp on what is going on is often a huge mental labour. Use the incorrect word and the discussion will quickly turn into explaining when and what words need to be used, lol.
Love the devs attitudes >.> .... They have been putting out some good content. Alot of it needs tweaks, but they are tweaking it(in what seems like mostly reasonable directions)
That said, the constant fracking attitude is so toxic... It wasnt a bad question. You shouldnt get personally offended and defensive just because you dont like the question they asked or how it was framed. Theres a few, ideally professional, devs and a sea of people. Your going to get dumb questions.
Just be civil.
It would go A LONG way for the game and the community.
Or dont and this can keep being a phenomenal quality product buried under the accumulating toxicity
ya but like. filipe started pretty fine and positive but i think the mutual toxicity between players and devs just... kinda cycles lol. Like the person talking about troodon, they were straight up giving wrong info on troodon, so much so that once filipe corrected them they didnt even have arguments. grapple in HT caused a big ruckus w everybody complaining when it hasnt even been released. geez Xzaguer dropped a video complaining about it like the devs just commited war crimes.
tbh, i don't think indie devs should even talk that much w their players without a proper marketing team on it. its stupid that programmers and animators have to do these talks and QnA. marketing is a whole job by itself. probably sucks to be patient when working extra hours answering players already hurt by previous drama. and that ask the same questions over and over lol
@@terrasque5240 it's cool to have them talk with the community, but they can't get caught up arguing with people... It's a game with a pretty massive following. If they can engage with the community selectively when and we're it's beneficial and helpful that's super cool! It really is! But if they're gonna argue with people and put people down and make people out to be dumb and ridiculous, especially and even when they aren't(and often far more hostile things than that)....
There's gonna be trolls. There's gonna be people with bad questions, thoughts, statements, and opinions.
I do appreciate that they care enough about the game to be that engaged and involved! It isn't nothing or worth nothing!
That said when people ask about a mechanic that feels bad to them(rightly or wrongly)... You don't even have to answer at all! But if you do don't act like they're dumb and then make a buncha comments about how we're lucky it's balanced by the guy who owns the game, is notorious for missing the mark on balance, and openly hates us.... Cause if he had his way it'd be even more unbalanced???
Like what kinda take is that?
@@tandava-089 Maybe you should consider the thought that these people who ask the dumb questions are the same ones who shat on the devs last week. They don't respond that way to people who ask respectfully.
@@mariadracona Thats literally not true. The devs will get an army of people to brigade you if you even say an opinion about things they dont like.
Besides, if the devs dont want shat on, quit shit talking, quit lying, quit picking fights. Quit putting down your customers. Quit gaslighting nonstop.
Dont make promises and then act like you never made them.... I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on
I forgot what smug assholes the isle devs were. It feels like I looked away for a second and they went right back to their old ways. Like, was it really necessary for filpe to come off so strong about what is obviously a shit idea? Is it so hard to go "yeah, that was a mistake but thats what horde test is for! While I appreciate the enthusiasm about the game please remember that this is a TEST BUILD of the game and we're all doing our best to fix it. Please don't go doomer about the game" and then followed by a calm explanation about why the things are the way they are, their future intentions, and the feedback they've gotten.
Honesty I could see it, I mean it's not like we are nice to them either not saying that what he did was correct but I could understand it, at least for this instance. plus they have been giving calm explanations before and people still get pissy at them so...
Yeah Filipe was a complete asole, really bad diplomatics for being the one who interface with the customers.
@@bruhbrother4805 Well, to be fair... The playerbase can be just as bad, but no reason they need to even acknowledge it, much less so just feed into it because their pride is on the line solely because people use basic critical thinking skills and dare to ever criticize them maturely and calmly. Since fact is, they're snippy and bitchy anyway regardless of how people bring stuff up, and more often than not the only people they keep in their server anyway are the people who mostly bitch and gripe so they can respond to the "toxic" people to look better publicly speaking, while often banning or ignoring everyone who can politely and maturely discuss things with them, or simply treat those kind people like absolute shit.
@@bruhbrother4805 I can't help but agree but it does feel like a perpetual cycle. If they didn't fuel the communities' hate by constantly and intentionally rilling them up then I feel it wouldn't happen.
@@Ticklicous the times they are bitchy and the times they are calm are about 1/3 at least, it's not great but that's what happens when you talk to your community like they do (casually and not treating the community like they are just costumers), and from what I have seen the times they are shit at communicating are few and far between but that will obviously hold more weight in people memories and make it feel like they are more shit than they actually are, do note that I didn't say they are good at it that's because they aren't.
I hate how Kissen never answered about Kentro. I've been waiting for Kentro ever since it had been confirmed in Evrima. A simple "I cant share anything about it yet" would've been enough instead of talking around the topic, it's so frustrating.
Tbh the question was vague. He asked if it's gonna be played like stego. Like how does she should know how people will play it? Obviously it's gonna have different stats, but who knows if it's gonna influence how people play it.
@@MIApor I know what he means though like pachy has these and these mechanics for this and that suggested playstyle, teno this and that for this and that suggested playstyle etc etc etc. So why not just answer with what is or might be planned for the animal?
@@stargazer3759 the question wasn't formulated in a way to ask about suggested playstyle. He asked how it will be played.
Bad questions result bad answers.
@@MIApor it really doesn't matter, even if you ask 100% "correctly" she will still not answer. The only way to seemingly get her to talk about a dino is calling Magy bad.
@@stargazer3759 Well idk what you experienced, but I saw her giving good answers plenty of times. And this one was clearly not her fault.
I hope everyone had a good day, and please stop this never-ending war and enjoy life.
war is fun, BRING OUT THE NUKES
Easy to see the community is very passionate on the game sometimes that leads to conflict and that's to be expected. At the end HT is for testing and people should be mindful of that. But I also understand some frustration. As the speed of updates in regards to new dinos as been the root cause of alot of tension .
When reading kissen kitten replies I struggle to find an actual answer, everytime.
She is in the animator team, but the questions often are not related to animations, so she doesn't know the exact answer to it. And since she can't say anything without getting quoted later on, she is forced to express her uncertainty.
She doesn’t have to answer then. It’s that simple.
@@firasalmeshari4851 then people cry that she ignores them...
Nothing they do to Troodon will take away from the fact that its incapable of successfully killing anything, takes far to much stamina to pounce, takes far to long to recover, to weak, takes to long to grow and its overshadowed by everything because its a puny class put in a mostly medium tier ecosystem.
Like I've been saying for a long time now, most classes are going to become completely obsolete with every Dinosaur they add, especially if they continue to be medium to large tiers.
if u have a pack of troodons it’s very very powerful, believe me
@@alexburke1310sure if all the troodons are almost on the same skill level as Nappn himself and server ping doesnt smite you down.
Other than that unless you have a fellow 7 troodons, with a pack of 3-4 average players youre maybe gonna take down a sub teno at most and suffer like 2-3 losses in doing so.
Point is troodons venom needs a rework for it to be viable because as of now its just a disposable throwaway tiny tier
@@alexburke1310 mind you i say all of this as someone who was excited for troodon since day one of its announcement and has actively searched for ways to play it more effectively
4:44 that would be a nice change, always aggravated me when i lose so many pack members in a single hunt or surprise attack. Attacking a raptor pack should feel like kicking a hornets nest, ya might get one or two if your lucky while your flailing around, but if your on your own, then there should be little chance for escape.
Does anyone know about hypsi growth now?
It's gonna require 3h with perfect diet
@@Rodolfien should make it 4, otherwise hypsi will be wayyy to OP
@@benmarsh2175 i feel like apexes should have 6+ hours each, but 4 would be fine yeah
1:41 "I said too much already"
Bro, is it a crime to tell your community how your game works? There is NO tutorial in game, and you won't even explain the mechanics over discord. Why the hell does EVERYTHING have to be this BIIIG secret with this development team! It's frustrating af!!
Edit: And how are we supposed to give feedback on the mechanics, you know, _the entire point of a hordetest,_ when I don't even know how they work?
The "said too much already" refers to the fact that the change has not been implemented yet and could be different when it gets added to HT.
Filipe makes me loose braincells just by reading what he says
I’m pretty sure English isn’t his first language
Filipe is Brazilian
@@Psyxdzin09 Hes a prick is what he is
SAME 🙄
It was not so long ago when he was getting massive Ws from community, I think it was somewhere around QoL patch, where his takes were adored on official DC and even on this channel I think. What do you think about that?
Diablo is gonna be one hell of a chunky boy now
bro really just said ping won't change gameplay at all
i think what he meant is that there's nothing the devs can do if you live far away from where the servers are located, which results in having a high/bad ping
Thats not what bro said, get your english together.
Not an isle dev spelling “evaluate” wrong…why am I not surprised. Also Filipe can’t act all condescending and “know-it-all” with phrases such as “that’s how physics works” when he can’t spell or use proper grammar. Like-
Yeah... Im not gonna say he isnt capable of some good work(idk what he works on, but overall, ultimately.... they produce some great stuff)
But hes a real pos, and its only getting/gotten worse
dude, English is not his first language, and Jesus fuking Christ I can see now why they are acting this way towards their community, fuking hell.
Hes just not native speaker damn chill
@@Rodolfien yeah I realized that, but if you’re gonna have such a condescending tone to your community look in the mirror first
@@africananimalogist4190 hes brazilian, calm down snowflake
Rex waiting Room Nr.3 (approx.2025)
Lol so Maia maybe before Rex
Rex will never never be finished but funny that we see Rex since years
The proper way to balance grapple is to remove it entirely.
***Ive heard some people say Kissen has been abrasive in the past, but at this point theyre a breath of fresh air compared to some of these devs attitudes!
In spite of the abrasiveness, theyve been putting out alot of great content lately. Some of it definitely needs tweaks here and there, and some of the devs comments and attitudes are.... at least concerning.
But in the end it seems like ultimately healthy decisions are getting made.... and while the attitude is never helpful, sometimes(often even, although by absolutely no means always) its been a good thing when the devs stand their ground against pushback.
That said, if theyre making grapple a little more reasonable(or even if they werent), why be a jerk?
In any case, attitudes and communication aside, they have been killing it with both content, and qol both above board and under the hood.
Definitely still alot to do..
If they just quit being aggressively defensive, Id have nothing but praise personally!
XD
Love to see the progress though!
Here is the thing. I am on their official DC and read stuff. The same dev that "seems" to be abrasive lately was absolutely nice before. And those who seemed to be abrasive were nice right after. What others consider passive aggression seems to me like just a tired person who is not capable of imagining things based on vaguely described issues. Maybe my tolerance is just way too high since I work with programmers.
Y'know I was trying to be optimistic about the over powered grapple mechanic because it was in testing still but devs ofcourse had to act like an asshole and fuck uo the little amount of hope I had I swear if there was an another aninal survival game (not even has to be dino) with the same depth of mechanics sounddesign and combat I would leave this game on an instant
Dayz
There's plenty. Please leave. Most of you are toxic. The game is better off. As someone who has watched the game and its community since 2015, I am tired of reading the passive aggressive middle-school drama, stupid questions, panic attacks over testing mechanics, and childish impatience from people who know absolutely nothing about game dev. Good riddance.
2:40 do they play on officials sometimes ?
Nice video, hope you’re doing well!
3:40 why does she do this :/ acts like she don’t get the question especially in this scenario literally every dino in the game has a general way to play it in terms of how you play it an example is you don’t play carno how you play cera and you don’t play Diablo how you would pachy that’s what he means and Ik she knows that if someone as slow as me can get it😭
They neda fix that
Diablo will 3 ton?
Yes.
2.5 tons more likely
@@No_name8374 They clearly said 50%, doesn't that make it weigh 3 tons?
it weighs 3 tons now yes
Hypsi growth. Time to see some chicklets
Gah Daym the isle community is so judgmental it's crazy.
Filipe best dev! 🔥
Saying ping has nothing to do with gameplay in a multiplayer game is absurd. Filipe, if you're triggered like that, you shouldn't interact with your community.
These devs need to remember that they are just simple computer nerds=devs and not a superior force. you make the game for us we keep the game alive if there is no community then the game dies. So behave yourselves devs and just do as your told listen to us. without us there is no game. the devs are our bitches in other words.
what a disgusting mindset to have lmfao
Who's gonna tell him that fighting toxicity with toxicity just doubles it? If you're bad to the devs, they won't want to give you a good game. I feel as though you forget how much work programming, animating, modeling and balancing is. I don't want to defend them, as they haven't been too smart themselves lately. But you are INSANELY entitled. Please be better.
@@jens-peterkline3495 sir yes sir
@@sammylvr7912 there is always 1
You're missing a lot of information there to be saying that sort of stuff, pal.