it's hilarious just how much the 1.0 benchmark is not representitive of even that game's gameplay at all. Heck, even cutscenes of that quality were so spaced out and seldom seen...
I feel like we didn't get cutscenes with that much detail until around Heavensward at least. Thinking back on it, it's insane how much they improved over time.
Jeez, this comment section is something else... what this vid helped me to understand is that content in a benchmark is completely made up: - music doesn't belong to places it plays in - bosses aren't in correct arenas and have a bigger party configuration that it is in the game - every benchmark contains at least one instance of a tank blocking big attack with new(ish) mitigation skill other interesting stuff: - they didn't use DTs pre-order mount for our WoL in the benchmark even though from SB to EW we had preorder mounts - sometimes canned ideas are being put into the benchmark (like ARRs open world primals, or an underwater boss monster in SB) - at 35:09 we can see books in colors of Encyclopedia Eorzea tomes (brown, red, black)
just fyi: that 1.0 benchmark scene is actually taking directly from Limsa opening scene when your made chara picked Limsa back then, with missing tutorial gameplay midway, unlike 2,0+ bench which is just taking certain sceneries & mass populate it to check the strength of your rig capabilities.
FFXIV Benchmarks Honest Edition: 1.0 - Look at our detailed/immersive cutscenes! (ignore our gameplay btw) Realm Reborn - Random bullshit! Go! Heavensward - wHaTs a SpOiLeR eVeN Stormblood - We finally get to go to Ala Mh--WE GOT JAPAN FOLKS! I REPEAT! WE GOT JAPAN! Shadowbringer - 7 minutes. 7 minutes is all I can spare my benchmark with you. Endwalker - Were you paying attention since ARR? Good! Random bullshit lore! Go! Dawntrail - I don't know. I never thought I'd get this far. - cranks up graphics -
I know it's tradition to rag on 1.0 and I'm not gonna defend it's textural fidelity because it's 14 years old, but their animations are ridiculously solid. I get that they were overly ambitious at the time, but now that we have the computers that can handle it, I wonder if they could pull some of those over for basic actions, they still hold up imo
What a nice trip down memory lane! One thing that caught my eye but would probably fry some CPUs is how populated the cities look with all those NPCs about! Aside from that, I'm glad they've slowly added more facial expressions to our WoLs during cutscenes. 1.0's are amazing, but we all know what that cost.
one very obvious graphic improvement is the shadow. Heavesward's shadow in the open-world was almost just black, the shadow is good inside the dungeon tho (i guess it's baked shadow as lighting is fixed in duty instance). My guess is the technical limitation couldn't support better shadow, then stormblood dropped PS3 support, and it's shadow improved, not much, but it is improved compared to HW.
Look at all these places filled with crowd of npcs and once you're in game they're just empty. So sad. The Ruby See's "Costa del Sol" will always remain the most bullshit thing ever in these Benchmarks trailers ^^.
Yet in every vid it shows how lively the open world is with Npcs and creatures runninga round living their lives...then in the actual game...a few packs here and there no random critters no packs running in herds or sleeping or just hanging out. They need to up their open world game its worse then other MMOs. Ill blame older consoles for holding them back on that part tho was hoping they would ahve at least dropped PS4 for dawntrail...may have gotten actual real water and not a fake layer thats empty underneath and you have to zone in to see actual underwater.
I am kinda surprised myself that they are supporting the PS4 with Dawntrail, but, eh? It was likely a safety-net in case, one, the Xbox deal fell through, and two, so they can have two more years of supporting the PS4 and give enough players time to move over to the PS5 to warrant the announcement of shutting off the PS4 servers.
I also really hate that once the expansion is done those open world zones are just dead, there is no reason to go back to them… i can’t remember the last time I went to the Ruby Sea or the Sea of Clouds. They really need to find a solution for this because if they keep adding areas it will eventually become unsustainable…
I will happily take the passable cutscenes in 2.0 and beyond, instead of the two dozen or so elegant and finely crafted cutscenes that strained the computers and PS3s of the era.
@ericbright1742 I mean sure, the cutscenes are fine and have been getting better since 6.5 or so but I do feel like they could still be massive improved. I'm hoping they focus on upgrading animations at some point
These facial expressions... I always thought they couldn't do it because of the engine being too old and the models not having enough animation points to show more emotions than "I'm bored" and "serious nod".... So they CAN do it. They just choose not to! Which is pretty sad to be honest. I'd like stuff like this in the regular cutscenes and gameplay...
jesus men how is it possible that 1.0 did some things better than 2024 ff14. i just downloaded the 1.0 benchmark and it looks so much better some textures could use some work and a realm reborn look better in some small scenarios but men imagine this is the version of the game that just got the graphics update. wouldn't look dated at all lmaooo like the animations are just so much better and omg the graphics in general, some textures and effects just looks so much better like faces and clothes, skin looks better in the 7.0 gra[hics update but men this should be this close considering 1.0 came out 10 years ago and 7.0 in 2024. wtffffff this is what we are missing rn, people talk about ff14 being a ps3 game but jesus this look better in some cases then the game we have rn
Yes, animations and cutscenes in 1.0 look much better and that was the problem... It required too much work from the developers and there were barely any cutscenes available. Also, the game was really heavy and unoptimized at that time before the rework (A Real Reborn). Nowadays the hardware that we have available could probably handle it, but since it's a MMORPG it's better that things keep being simple or many players won't be able to run the game.
not every cinematic needs to look like its a movie, its just the animations in general are horrible in ff14, at least in 1.0 they were more detailed. i don't think ff14 1.0 ran like sht bc of how the game looked, it was be the game was just bad optimised, the code was a mess etc. this is 2024 the gaming genre doesn't need to get stuck with 2009 looking games bc one dude wants to play with his dated ass laptop. you are playing an mmo that you pay every month to play, a game that you also you have to buy and buy the newest expansion for. am sure you can save up and buy a better system, this is why I find it wierd when yoship says they don't want to make the game look too good because they want as much people to play as possible. and sure I get that but come on, it doesn't mean they have to make the game look like a ps3 game (kinda still does 7.0 graphics help a bit tho) before you say console. ps4 is a powerful device lets not even talk about ps5, ff14 still looks dated, so its not like its running ff7 rebirth or dragons dogma 2. but idk. for me the ultimate ff14 would be, it has the base graphics of 1.0, textures, animations, effects and all, the world is as massive with no loading screens in every fuvking place and on top of that it just got a graphics update like 7.0 just did, also with arr's UI and arr's combat(1.0's combat is horrible lmao) plus all the content we have gotten up until now. if you can run it play the game in medium or low etc, am sure a ps5 should able to run it. now it could be that the engine is whats keeping the game from hitting that point, IIRC isn't ff16 running on the same engine but updated? anyways I know that will never happen so it is what is. ff14 even with this graphics update will look dated in like 3 years lol, its funny how some things in 1.0 are better anyways hopefully yoship gets to do a next gen mmo.
@@redlunatic2224 no bait it is what it is. am mainly talking about visually, graphics, animations and how big the maps were, ff14 1.0 felt like a true MMO. not nothing about it the game was fun, if the game itself was sht, with sht combat, sht content etc that's another topic
idk why you ripped this, this video exists, i get multiple youtubers making the same update video but don’t we only need 1 video for this i don’t mean to be mean idk who’s platform is bigger
Same reason other youtubers would do it. It's to reach more audiences with this kind of content. That's why there's multiple videos of the same things of multiple things throughout youtube, not just in the gaming category. If he didn't upload this, I probably would've never went out looking for these on my own accord, but it's a nice throwback looking at them now.
0:00 - intro
1:13 - 1.0 Benchmark
7:08 - A Realm Reborn
11:27 - Heavensward
19:33 - Stormblood
26:06 - Shadowbringers
32:57 - Endwalker
39:40 - Dawntrail
The on a ship wake up hearing hydaelyn scene in Endwalker is a callback to 1.0 benchmark?!! That's really neat!
IKR!?
I was going to make the same comment I actually never saw the 1.0 benchmark. And was like oh shit nice
In fact that part is the intro for limsa lominsa back un 1.0
Yep! Crazy how those who experience 1 0 got to relive it again in 6.0 😂
Seeing 1.0 reminds me of how I hope in Dawntrail we get cinematic cutscenes.The only time we ever see the characters CGI models is in the trailers..
it's hilarious just how much the 1.0 benchmark is not representitive of even that game's gameplay at all. Heck, even cutscenes of that quality were so spaced out and seldom seen...
I feel like we didn't get cutscenes with that much detail until around Heavensward at least. Thinking back on it, it's insane how much they improved over time.
This is something I’ve never knew of and was always curious
Thank you for this 😃
1.0 had the best models,
Is interesting that the benchmark situation in the ship is the same as when you meet Venat in EW
lol this video made me go download all the past benchmarks. Thank you for making me realize I could still get them!
I'm looking for the 1.0 and 2.0 benchmarks to see the different between them all but can find all but those two
Thank you to the original Reddit poster for those.
I remember all of these,. A legacy player and still play today. This brought back a lot of memories.
Jeez, this comment section is something else...
what this vid helped me to understand is that content in a benchmark is completely made up:
- music doesn't belong to places it plays in
- bosses aren't in correct arenas and have a bigger party configuration that it is in the game
- every benchmark contains at least one instance of a tank blocking big attack with new(ish) mitigation skill
other interesting stuff:
- they didn't use DTs pre-order mount for our WoL in the benchmark even though from SB to EW we had preorder mounts
- sometimes canned ideas are being put into the benchmark (like ARRs open world primals, or an underwater boss monster in SB)
- at 35:09 we can see books in colors of Encyclopedia Eorzea tomes (brown, red, black)
DT doesn't have a preorder mount. It has a collector's edition mount. The preorder bonus was an earring and a minion.
shame they can't get the player models back to the fidelity of 1.0. everything else can stay as is..
Love the marauder with guns.
just fyi: that 1.0 benchmark scene is actually taking directly from Limsa opening scene when your made chara picked Limsa back then, with missing tutorial gameplay midway,
unlike 2,0+ bench which is just taking certain sceneries & mass populate it to check the strength of your rig capabilities.
I never seen the 1.0 or a realm reborn benchmark before ♥ thank you so much for this video!!!
FFXIV Benchmarks Honest Edition:
1.0 - Look at our detailed/immersive cutscenes! (ignore our gameplay btw)
Realm Reborn - Random bullshit! Go!
Heavensward - wHaTs a SpOiLeR eVeN
Stormblood - We finally get to go to Ala Mh--WE GOT JAPAN FOLKS! I REPEAT! WE GOT JAPAN!
Shadowbringer - 7 minutes. 7 minutes is all I can spare my benchmark with you.
Endwalker - Were you paying attention since ARR? Good! Random bullshit lore! Go!
Dawntrail - I don't know. I never thought I'd get this far. - cranks up graphics -
I know it's tradition to rag on 1.0 and I'm not gonna defend it's textural fidelity because it's 14 years old, but their animations are ridiculously solid. I get that they were overly ambitious at the time, but now that we have the computers that can handle it, I wonder if they could pull some of those over for basic actions, they still hold up imo
What a nice trip down memory lane! One thing that caught my eye but would probably fry some CPUs is how populated the cities look with all those NPCs about!
Aside from that, I'm glad they've slowly added more facial expressions to our WoLs during cutscenes. 1.0's are amazing, but we all know what that cost.
one very obvious graphic improvement is the shadow. Heavesward's shadow in the open-world was almost just black, the shadow is good inside the dungeon tho (i guess it's baked shadow as lighting is fixed in duty instance). My guess is the technical limitation couldn't support better shadow, then stormblood dropped PS3 support, and it's shadow improved, not much, but it is improved compared to HW.
The animations in 1.0 were really good.
Edit: 23:05 Uncle Ulty!!!
They were mo capped yeah, not emotes like current
Funny you should post this a day after I tried searching for it.
I’m surprised the benchmark is a separate executable and isn’t included as an option in the base game graphics settings.
Is there a reason for playing in HD with a 4090?^^
for recording software purposes, I think Meoni stated it in his DT benchmark video.
that 9,999 seconds cap.
I disnt know benchmarks existed until now 😂
Been playing since stormblood
what’s the music at 11:57 and 23:19?
Look at all these places filled with crowd of npcs and once you're in game they're just empty. So sad.
The Ruby See's "Costa del Sol" will always remain the most bullshit thing ever in these Benchmarks trailers ^^.
I noticed no tail clipping from the MC and Y'shtola for the armor in the 1.0 benchmark. sucks they dont care about that now.
Yet in every vid it shows how lively the open world is with Npcs and creatures runninga round living their lives...then in the actual game...a few packs here and there no random critters no packs running in herds or sleeping or just hanging out. They need to up their open world game its worse then other MMOs. Ill blame older consoles for holding them back on that part tho was hoping they would ahve at least dropped PS4 for dawntrail...may have gotten actual real water and not a fake layer thats empty underneath and you have to zone in to see actual underwater.
I am kinda surprised myself that they are supporting the PS4 with Dawntrail, but, eh? It was likely a safety-net in case, one, the Xbox deal fell through, and two, so they can have two more years of supporting the PS4 and give enough players time to move over to the PS5 to warrant the announcement of shutting off the PS4 servers.
I also really hate that once the expansion is done those open world zones are just dead, there is no reason to go back to them… i can’t remember the last time I went to the Ruby Sea or the Sea of Clouds. They really need to find a solution for this because if they keep adding areas it will eventually become unsustainable…
Why were 1.0s animation so much better 😭
Because they mocapped *everything.*
Which meant the production pipeline going forward was unsustainable.
@ericbright1742 damn... kinda wish they would start mocapping important moments or something
@@ericbright1742 excuses
I will happily take the passable cutscenes in 2.0 and beyond, instead of the two dozen or so elegant and finely crafted cutscenes that strained the computers and PS3s of the era.
@ericbright1742 I mean sure, the cutscenes are fine and have been getting better since 6.5 or so but I do feel like they could still be massive improved. I'm hoping they focus on upgrading animations at some point
These facial expressions... I always thought they couldn't do it because of the engine being too old and the models not having enough animation points to show more emotions than "I'm bored" and "serious nod".... So they CAN do it. They just choose not to! Which is pretty sad to be honest. I'd like stuff like this in the regular cutscenes and gameplay...
They always could do it. But that would cut off in their profits. And how else would the company waste millions of dollars on NFT.
wait, so the cool battle between you an zenos on the tower was just a benchmark vid?
booooo!
the 1.0 benchmark is sooo awkward,,, one very slow introductory cutscene with 0 music and awkward line reads
jesus men how is it possible that 1.0 did some things better than 2024 ff14. i just downloaded the 1.0 benchmark and it looks so much better some textures could use some work and a realm reborn look better in some small scenarios but men imagine this is the version of the game that just got the graphics update. wouldn't look dated at all lmaooo like the animations are just so much better and omg the graphics in general, some textures and effects just looks so much better like faces and clothes, skin looks better in the 7.0 gra[hics update but men this should be this close considering 1.0 came out 10 years ago and 7.0 in 2024. wtffffff this is what we are missing rn, people talk about ff14 being a ps3 game but jesus this look better in some cases then the game we have rn
Back in the 1.0 days bait used to be believable.
Yes, animations and cutscenes in 1.0 look much better and that was the problem... It required too much work from the developers and there were barely any cutscenes available. Also, the game was really heavy and unoptimized at that time before the rework (A Real Reborn).
Nowadays the hardware that we have available could probably handle it, but since it's a MMORPG it's better that things keep being simple or many players won't be able to run the game.
@@Bueno_Y dont kid ourselves, this game is really a singleplayer game with mmo elements shoehorned in to get that monthly sub excuse
not every cinematic needs to look like its a movie, its just the animations in general are horrible in ff14, at least in 1.0 they were more detailed. i don't think ff14 1.0 ran like sht bc of how the game looked, it was be the game was just bad optimised, the code was a mess etc. this is 2024 the gaming genre doesn't need to get stuck with 2009 looking games bc one dude wants to play with his dated ass laptop.
you are playing an mmo that you pay every month to play, a game that you also you have to buy and buy the newest expansion for. am sure you can save up and buy a better system, this is why I find it wierd when yoship says they don't want to make the game look too good because they want as much people to play as possible.
and sure I get that but come on, it doesn't mean they have to make the game look like a ps3 game (kinda still does 7.0 graphics help a bit tho) before you say console. ps4 is a powerful device lets not even talk about ps5, ff14 still looks dated, so its not like its running ff7 rebirth or dragons dogma 2.
but idk. for me the ultimate ff14 would be, it has the base graphics of 1.0, textures, animations, effects and all, the world is as massive with no loading screens in every fuvking place and on top of that it just got a graphics update like 7.0 just did, also with arr's UI and arr's combat(1.0's combat is horrible lmao) plus all the content we have gotten up until now.
if you can run it play the game in medium or low etc, am sure a ps5 should able to run it. now it could be that the engine is whats keeping the game from hitting that point, IIRC isn't ff16 running on the same engine but updated? anyways I know that will never happen so it is what is. ff14 even with this graphics update will look dated in like 3 years lol, its funny how some things in 1.0 are better anyways hopefully yoship gets to do a next gen mmo.
@@redlunatic2224 no bait it is what it is. am mainly talking about visually, graphics, animations and how big the maps were, ff14 1.0 felt like a true MMO. not nothing about it the game was fun, if the game itself was sht, with sht combat, sht content etc that's another topic
idk why you ripped this, this video exists, i get multiple youtubers making the same update video but don’t we only need 1 video for this
i don’t mean to be mean idk who’s platform is bigger
I think the other video said it was from arr to dawntrail, so didn't include 1.0
Same reason other youtubers would do it. It's to reach more audiences with this kind of content. That's why there's multiple videos of the same things of multiple things throughout youtube, not just in the gaming category. If he didn't upload this, I probably would've never went out looking for these on my own accord, but it's a nice throwback looking at them now.
@@nerdychocoboit also includes 1.0
look for the char and the pc specs: it is Meoni doing all benchmarks with his current rig. i9 14900k+ RTX 4090 were not a thing back then. ;)
He didnt rip anything tho. It's his content. Lmao
Absolutely love watching the main character become more and more animated and alive with every benchmark