It's really the same "protective" role, I mean she is still your kid sister. It reminds me of families who are orphaned and the oldest sibling becomes the responsible one, almost a surrogate.
I still like the idea of the father nier given we barely have any anime rpgs games where you play as an 40+ year old protagonist than a 20 something year old though given ending E of replicant its probably for the best
this is a great trailer. i dunno why...the images and the song are very well picked and edited if hadnt bought the game already, this video would have made me buy it
Fast forward 11 years and now we have a beautiful remaster.... time flies so fast.... So everyone even if there are things to complain about the remaster just don't. It's a waste time. Just enjoy what games you like because we really have a shorter life than we think.
I finished the game months ago...seeing that brings so much memories back...and dust in my eyes apparently ;_; Such a wonderful game, i'd love to be able to play this version
Congratulations, the remaster is now available. I read the comments with interest. It seemed to me that the plots preferred by the Japanese are different from the plots preferred by many people here. We certainly prefer young protagonists. However... In a story about a father trying to save his daughter, it's a bit unappealing. Even more so when the character is a tough guy. We think of it as his "duty" to do so. But that's not the case with a brother and sister. We would perceive the act more as "self-sacrifice" and "devotion" than as a duty. This is even more true if the sibling is a minor who may still need a guardian. This "self-sacrifice" and "dedication" is also symbolic about Kaine and Emile. Perhaps we surely like tragic stories (but it depends on the individual).
Having played both versions with an English patch on the replicant version I can say that Replicant (teen) nier looks cooler but the story flows better and makes more sense with western nier, with him as the father instead of the brother.
It’s the prequel to the game nier automata called nier it tells the story about the destruction of mindkind and the personal and heartbreak journey of the protagonist it’s available for pre order $59.99
Yeah but I already played the original nier so I’d rather not purchase the same game twice but thanks for the advice all I know is this is probably gonna be a great reimagine
@@designationc6042, I actually have more appreciation for the 2010 NIER, because the game in my country wasn't available, so, I spent about... 48 dlls. RepliCant will be awesome too, but the sentimental one for me, is Papa Nier
Because it's essentially the same game as the NieR we got, the difference is instead of being a father trying to find a cure for his daughter you play as a young man trying to find a cure for his sister. Honestly, the only reason I could see as to why they made two alternate versions of the characters, but the same game is purely because of the audience. My guess is they probably thought the younger version of the main character could connect better with a younger demographic, so created two versions for Japan. I'm not quite sure which one came first, according to some sources the first NieR trailer featured the father, but I'm also reading some other sources that NieR was made with Westerners in mind. Being that Replicant was mainly aimed at Japan since a lot of JRPGs feature these young looking teens. The one featuring the Father is apparently appeasing older demographics as well as Westerners since at a glance it appears we appreciate more manly type of characters for example, Commander Shepard, Master Chief, Joel(Last of Us), Booker, Duke Nukem and the list goes on. (I know Joel and Booker didn't exist at the release of this game, but they are examples) Basically, NieR was made not just for Japan, but for the world so they catered the hero that was going to be presented world-wide as a manlier protagonist, while Japan got to choose since they appreciate younger characters more.
I wonder why they used "Shadowlord" for the opening in Gestalt but "Song of the Ancients - Fate/Emil - Karma" in Replicant? Though it might make sense that they're referring to the Shadowlord since he is a Gestalt.
I Definitely don't like Nier's younger design before the time skip, But I think it improves afterwards. I just feel like his younger design fits more within the whole thing between Kaine and Nier.
@PrinceOF9Imagination No; In Japan Near Gestalt (North America's Near) was an xbox exclusive. Near Replicant was made for the ps3 only and I believe its only available in Japan. The only real difference is that the main character is younger.
@DogiTheWallcrusher it so obviously means that she is not 100% human, as she had been possessed by a shade, wont say more, lest i spoil the it for those who decide to play kaines story, but you know what happens after.
Yeah there are some differences. The most notable one is the reason why Yonah wants the lunar tear. Nier tells Yonah if you find a lunar tear you become rich and possibly could buy medicine to cure her illness. I guess we'll know if they keep that or not in the localization of the remake
@@Voeris1 Voice acting has more emotion, the OG OST is better, and the facial animation is better. I believe the physics are better, too, everything so far looks super rigid in the remaster/remake which is to be expected I guess.
@StillNeedsFixing Nothing fan-made about a book written by the writers of the game, stories from the writers of the game and the creators of the game saying "yes she is a hermaphrodite". Grimoire Nier is not in the game, it is akin to an Ultimate Guide available in japan with a fan translation available now to read. And again the kids were asking her "Why do you call yourself a girl?" Long before she was ever possessed by Tyrann.
Well you are half right. In JPN they had two version. Nier Replicant and Nier Gestalt. Replicant was the PS3 version and Gestalt was the Xbox 360 version. We ended up with the Western Version.
@loceelen Again, Tyrann is not the reason for Kaine's extra parts. It's something she was born with. If you wanna talk about being human, that's a whole nother part of the story I won't mention here.
I love the new intro songs and visual, but in my opinion they should have kept the old voices for the new jp op, they just have more emotion than the new ones
@cosmosofinfinity Well, the Japanese knew that the younger version of Nier would be in favor of their crowd, and that the older tougher looking guy would be in be more in favor of the Americans. Their original plan was to have this game in the young version as an Xbox Exclusive. Xbox - Nier RepliCant PS3 - Nier Gestalt
You mean her love for him or just their entire relationship in the game? I like the consistency in their design to make them seem like the same person but neither are anything to drool over, which is what I wanted from the older Neir /shallow
@nnndddnnnddd If you haven't already Wiki'd the info, then I can tell you Nier is Yonah's older brother. As far as I'm aware, there's no story differences other than a younger Nier. It's simply to appeal to Eastern and Western audiences.
It's not that it's a big deal, But I feel like this character design is better fitted for the story at hand, Not to mention the combat, It's so fast and the character has so much agility it looks strange with old Nier fighting.
@Shadowblind4 The Japanese fans didn't like the older version and the Western fans apparently didn't fancy the younger version either, so they made two games. Personally I would rather have the younger one.
This version of nier looks much better, plus it'd make shipping him and Kayne or whatever her name was easier. But I like western niers role as father better (western opening was more enjoyable to)... So I'm a bit torn. I'd be happiest if we had a Papa Nier that didn't look like ass with a random eyepatch.
Didn't mean the eyepatch made it bad, but the fact it was just all of a sudden there. No story about it that i remember. It just came to be, meant more he looked like ass that randomly got a eyepatch.
Jack of Spades I was alright with its sudden appearance. It kinda gave the implication that Nier was up to some crazy, fucked up shit during the five-year interim.
Was no scar there in alt costumes though so it was kinda... anti-climatic? No worn out armor and or other visual cues so was just a bit of a let down imo.
Jack of Spades I think the patch is suppose to suggest he lost more than just an eye. It's pretty big. Overall, I think both Papa and Brother Nier have cool designs post timeskip. Part 1 Papa was butterface to all hell and Part 1 Brother.... Uh, yeah.
I guess they should have incorporated a thicker syory line for what seems to be two opposite games. Are actually the exact same minus hes the son saving his sister to father saving his daughter
@AirMan928 is replicant avivable on the xbox? or it is ps3 only , as much as i want to play nier , the main character kindna made me not want to play this game :/. i perfer cool looking character ( not saying old guy is not cool but his just not my type)
this seems to be the unpopular opinion. but I feel so much more badass, fighting big monsters with a younger character. it just feels so much more exciting, I feel like I could let my mind run will with imagination, long runs with epic camera angles just aren't the same with an old guy.
@@mateogajardo2196 I really like dad nier he has such a cool voice and he looks really cool imo but I think bro nier fits better into the story and what this games tryna do
@HishoHiro besides, i think its more sad cause Yonah gets taking away by the shadowlord, its much more sad since hes her father, if it was the young nier ( her friend, or so i head) it wouldnt be really sad
Because this was made specifically for the Japanese audience. In japanese culture, it's more likely for the big brother to save the little sister. American culture Idolizes the Father figure saving his little girl..thats just the way it works lol.
@LordMurdalot Did you get the B path ending yet and Kaine's backstory? they never explicitly say SUP GOTTA DICK, but the kids in her village were making fun of her and asking things like "Why do you call yourself a girl?" It's pretty clear
Who's here after the lauch of the Remastered OP? :D
Me
Absolutely right, waiting badly for official released ost remake
Supongo que ya compararas...
It's really the same "protective" role, I mean she is still your kid sister. It reminds me of families who are orphaned and the oldest sibling becomes the responsible one, almost a surrogate.
I still like the idea of the father nier given we barely have any anime rpgs games where you play as an 40+ year old protagonist than a 20 something year old though given ending E of replicant its probably for the best
Nier is one of my favorite Action / RPGs. I own both the Nier Gestalt and Replicant versions.
this is a great trailer. i dunno why...the images and the song are very well picked and edited if hadnt bought the game already, this video would have made me buy it
Fast forward 11 years and now we have a beautiful remaster.... time flies so fast.... So everyone even if there are things to complain about the remaster just don't. It's a waste time. Just enjoy what games you like because we really have a shorter life than we think.
I feeling some nostalgia in 2021....
I finished the game months ago...seeing that brings so much memories back...and dust in my eyes apparently ;_; Such a wonderful game, i'd love to be able to play this version
Yup.
It's the vocal track from 'Gods Bound by Rules'.
It's interesting that the Replicant opening is less spoilery than the Gestalt one.
1:47 best part of the trailer. i really like those drums that sound along with emil's theme very haunting
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Congratulations, the remaster is now available.
I read the comments with interest.
It seemed to me that the plots preferred by the Japanese are different from the plots preferred by many people here.
We certainly prefer young protagonists. However...
In a story about a father trying to save his daughter, it's a bit unappealing. Even more so when the character is a tough guy.
We think of it as his "duty" to do so.
But that's not the case with a brother and sister.
We would perceive the act more as "self-sacrifice" and "devotion" than as a duty.
This is even more true if the sibling is a minor who may still need a guardian.
This "self-sacrifice" and "dedication" is also symbolic about Kaine and Emile.
Perhaps we surely like tragic stories (but it depends on the individual).
Thank you for your insight, I agree completely
Interesting...
This comment needs to be at the top.
That's the exact reason why i prefer brother Nier by far
WTF, this is 10 years ago, with a 1080p quality and 60 fps format.
:OOOOOO
Ahh Nier what a great game.
They remade the intro for the Remake!!! Bless!!!
AAAAAAHHHH 💖
Song of the Ancients/Fate + Emil (Karma) song
THIS OPENING OF NIER IS WAAAAAAAY BETTER
I like the idea behind Gestalt far more, but I really do wish they just had a better design for Old Nier.
Having played both versions with an English patch on the replicant version I can say that Replicant (teen) nier looks cooler but the story flows better and makes more sense with western nier, with him as the father instead of the brother.
How does it if with the oldie it looks like he was being ignorant with shades as well he doesn't have a backstory
@@DeadChristmasTreebythehighway He does if you played The World of Recycled Vessel
Whatever this is, I WANT it.
You can get it now!
Buy the remastered
It’s the prequel to the game nier automata called nier it tells the story about the destruction of mindkind and the personal and heartbreak journey of the protagonist it’s available for pre order $59.99
@@designationc6042, it is better purchase the NIER 2010 in GameStop at 20 dlls.
Yeah but I already played the original nier so I’d rather not purchase the same game twice but thanks for the advice all I know is this is probably gonna be a great reimagine
@@designationc6042, I actually have more appreciation for the 2010 NIER, because the game in my country wasn't available, so, I spent about... 48 dlls.
RepliCant will be awesome too, but the sentimental one for me, is Papa Nier
I'm still with Papa Nier Gang.
Just the fucking title sound make me cry.
why the hell did this game not come to the west!?
Because it's essentially the same game as the NieR we got, the difference is instead of being a father trying to find a cure for his daughter you play as a young man trying to find a cure for his sister. Honestly, the only reason I could see as to why they made two alternate versions of the characters, but the same game is purely because of the audience. My guess is they probably thought the younger version of the main character could connect better with a younger demographic, so created two versions for Japan. I'm not quite sure which one came first, according to some sources the first NieR trailer featured the father, but I'm also reading some other sources that NieR was made with Westerners in mind. Being that Replicant was mainly aimed at Japan since a lot of JRPGs feature these young looking teens. The one featuring the Father is apparently appeasing older demographics as well as Westerners since at a glance it appears we appreciate more manly type of characters for example, Commander Shepard, Master Chief, Joel(Last of Us), Booker, Duke Nukem and the list goes on. (I know Joel and Booker didn't exist at the release of this game, but they are examples)
Basically, NieR was made not just for Japan, but for the world so they catered the hero that was going to be presented world-wide as a manlier protagonist, while Japan got to choose since they appreciate younger characters more.
Heavykiller1 I prefer younger Nier. I thought this was localized and was named Nier Replicant based on wikipedia's info.
I have come from the future to tell you that it is now coming to the west remastered
Your wish is granted lol
It did, just with a better protagonist haha.
Beautiful😢
@uresai First is "Snow In Summer", then "Song Of The Ancients (Fate)" then "Emil (Karma)". They're all from the official soundtrack.
I wonder why they used "Shadowlord" for the opening in Gestalt but "Song of the Ancients - Fate/Emil - Karma" in Replicant? Though it might make sense that they're referring to the Shadowlord since he is a Gestalt.
I Definitely don't like Nier's younger design before the time skip, But I think it improves afterwards.
I just feel like his younger design fits more within the whole thing between Kaine and Nier.
"Glory To Mankind"
This is a fcking masterpiece, it is what it is
@PrinceOF9Imagination No; In Japan Near Gestalt (North America's Near) was an xbox exclusive. Near Replicant was made for the ps3 only and I believe its only available in Japan. The only real difference is that the main character is younger.
@DogiTheWallcrusher it so obviously means that she is not 100% human, as she had been possessed by a shade, wont say more, lest i spoil the it for those who decide to play kaines story, but you know what happens after.
its about time that raiden gets a guest appearance in another videogame :D
Happy 14th to the greatest game on the planet
THEY REMADE THIS TRAILER FOR THE REMAKE?!?!
yesss! almost frame perfect
@ddup2 It's only in the dlc portions of the game if you buy it.
Wait replicant had different opening? How did I never realize this.
Yeah there are some differences. The most notable one is the reason why Yonah wants the lunar tear. Nier tells Yonah if you find a lunar tear you become rich and possibly could buy medicine to cure her illness. I guess we'll know if they keep that or not in the localization of the remake
that mean the remaster will not have the WEISS YOU DUMBASS
@@auronkardek, that's why I purchased NIER back in October
@@auronkardek Oh yes it will...Thanks SE: ua-cam.com/video/JzeitAvDRn4/v-deo.html
@ddup2 They have the option in Gestalt to play as 'brother nier' in the DLC.
Honestly this one is better
damn... why?
@@Voeris1 Voice acting has more emotion, the OG OST is better, and the facial animation is better. I believe the physics are better, too, everything so far looks super rigid in the remaster/remake which is to be expected I guess.
@@jase276 but I like kaine roasting Weiss at the start of the gestalt
@StillNeedsFixing Nothing fan-made about a book written by the writers of the game, stories from the writers of the game and the creators of the game saying "yes she is a hermaphrodite". Grimoire Nier is not in the game, it is akin to an Ultimate Guide available in japan with a fan translation available now to read. And again the kids were asking her "Why do you call yourself a girl?" Long before she was ever possessed by Tyrann.
Well you are half right. In JPN they had two version. Nier Replicant and Nier Gestalt. Replicant was the PS3 version and Gestalt was the Xbox 360 version. We ended up with the Western Version.
@loceelen Again, Tyrann is not the reason for Kaine's extra parts. It's something she was born with. If you wanna talk about being human, that's a whole nother part of the story I won't mention here.
@Maioly Actually both are canon protagonists :)
@kas600 that may be right.. but for Japanese People their Family (espacially a Sister) is worth more than anything
English opening sequence is far more epic this one is more emotional ...i like them both
@magepure0016 actually younger Nier is Yonah's brother
I love the new intro songs and visual, but in my opinion they should have kept the old voices for the new jp op, they just have more emotion than the new ones
Well, the voice actors are all the same from the original game. But I know what you mean by this version having more emotion overall.
Agreed
@cosmosofinfinity
Well, the Japanese knew that the younger version of Nier would be in favor of their crowd, and that the older tougher looking guy would be in be more in favor of the Americans.
Their original plan was to have this game in the young version as an Xbox Exclusive.
Xbox - Nier RepliCant
PS3 - Nier Gestalt
an entire version of the game where he is the brother instead of the father?
@Feithlessly I assumed it would be buried under comments. Not my fault people up-voted it.
THIS IS WAYY BETTER than old guy Nier version. They should have released Replicant in the West as well.
@WinterazureKite No, it's not just you I thought that too. and a mixture of cloud
You mean her love for him or just their entire relationship in the game?
I like the consistency in their design to make them seem like the same person but neither are anything to drool over, which is what I wanted from the older Neir /shallow
@soraheart
It's older brother saving little sister scenario.
@nnndddnnnddd If you haven't already Wiki'd the info, then I can tell you Nier is Yonah's older brother. As far as I'm aware, there's no story differences other than a younger Nier. It's simply to appeal to Eastern and Western audiences.
I like this opening, but I like the other one more
Yeah, I know. Its was murdalot that thought she had extra parts from being possessed. I was saying she didn't get possessed until later I'm her life
It's not that it's a big deal, But I feel like this character design is better fitted for the story at hand, Not to mention the combat, It's so fast and the character has so much agility it looks strange with old Nier fighting.
@Shadowblind4 The Japanese fans didn't like the older version and the Western fans apparently didn't fancy the younger version either, so they made two games. Personally I would rather have the younger one.
This version of nier looks much better, plus it'd make shipping him and Kayne or whatever her name was easier. But I like western niers role as father better (western opening was more enjoyable to)... So I'm a bit torn. I'd be happiest if we had a Papa Nier that didn't look like ass with a random eyepatch.
I think he looks better with eyepatch, honestly. He was pretty butter-face to begin with. The eyepatch covered the brows, which helped, in my opinion.
Didn't mean the eyepatch made it bad, but the fact it was just all of a sudden there. No story about it that i remember. It just came to be, meant more he looked like ass that randomly got a eyepatch.
Jack of Spades I was alright with its sudden appearance. It kinda gave the implication that Nier was up to some crazy, fucked up shit during the five-year interim.
Was no scar there in alt costumes though so it was kinda... anti-climatic? No worn out armor and or other visual cues so was just a bit of a let down imo.
Jack of Spades I think the patch is suppose to suggest he lost more than just an eye. It's pretty big.
Overall, I think both Papa and Brother Nier have cool designs post timeskip. Part 1 Papa was butterface to all hell and Part 1 Brother.... Uh, yeah.
@LordMurdalot She gets possessed sometime after you see her daily teasing.
@DuoBat66 Otherwise it'll be good to test to see which one is best. Older or Younger (I might have insulted my father).
@ZvxoiSchieadi we do.
I guess they should have incorporated a thicker syory line for what seems to be two opposite games. Are actually the exact same minus hes the son saving his sister to father saving his daughter
I live in europe (netherlands) and i have the game. Can i get this costume too? I've downloaded the dlc but i still need to finish the last door.
@AirMan928 is replicant avivable on the xbox? or it is ps3 only , as much as i want to play nier , the main character kindna made me not want to play this game :/. i perfer cool looking character ( not saying old guy is not cool but his just not my type)
@armademon CTFU wow... but have you played Gestalt (the US) version. Which is better IYO and yes I know they're pretty much the same?
which is why this game is in only in japan most people aren't able to grip the story with the brother figure instead of father figure
Your avatar is awesome.
this seems to be the unpopular opinion. but I feel so much more badass, fighting big monsters with a younger character. it just feels so much more exciting, I feel like I could let my mind run will with imagination, long runs with epic camera angles just aren't the same with an old guy.
I think the main character of this game is actually better fitted.....i didn't really like the father's design.
True. between this chad who actually uses a shirt and the virgin father that need to show his muscles to demonstrate his Manly, I 100% prefer this one
@@mateogajardo2196 I really like dad nier he has such a cool voice and he looks really cool imo but I think bro nier fits better into the story and what this games tryna do
0:40 I swear, that thing looks exactly like Hiyosu from Bleach. EXACTLY.
@Shadowblind4 fan demand
@DogiTheWallcrusher huh didnt find anything to indicate that in the UK version?
how do u install the English patch?
@AirMan928 oh the dlc thats already out?
@Zr388 Do you know where to find that because I can only find a DLC called the world of recycled vessel
@LordMurdalot Kaine is a hermaphrodite in all versions.
@smash44556677 i have the Gestalt version,and love it, do u know if by getting the only dlc they have i can play with "the brother"?
Somehow some of those weapons reminds me of the weapons which are appearing in Drakengard...
Even in Nier automata Caim weapons survived more than 10 thousand years lol.
Because they are the same weapons. They didn't have enough money to design new ones
I'm getting this imported....hell....if only they had the option to pick this character instead of a old guy....
Shiimochi no need. Remake is on the way!
@@SamtheMan3014 They posted that at the very least six years before you replied to them. I think you might've been just a little too late.
Awesome! But still prefer the Gestalt version...Shadowlord theme! :D
@Shadowfang3000 Its a nice feeling huh
@Mekapix2 That's what I'm talking about.
@HishoHiro besides, i think its more sad cause Yonah gets taking away by the shadowlord, its much more sad since hes her father, if it was the young nier ( her friend, or so i head) it wouldnt be really sad
Because this was made specifically for the Japanese audience. In japanese culture, it's more likely for the big brother to save the little sister. American culture Idolizes the Father figure saving his little girl..thats just the way it works lol.
@SimGirlKiss O rly? I played and beat the game on my PS3, but it didn't have that character on it. What gives? :/
@LordMurdalot Did you get the B path ending yet and Kaine's backstory?
they never explicitly say SUP GOTTA DICK, but the kids in her village were making fun of her and asking things like "Why do you call yourself a girl?" It's pretty clear
the younger one seems better
i dont care if its cliche it just fits better
whats the deffrence of neir, neir gestalt, and neir replicant????
One is localized(which is a big deal) and the other isnt
I own the usa Nier PS3 version and thought I was getting this version. Man I am pissed
@magepure0016 you mean Kaine? we don't know her age
Am i the only person who think the brother nier look a lot like young Raiden from Metal Gear?
3:05
Why...
floockde Because Nier
kek... check out her alternate costumes, the bulge is more pronounced
that's not square's game they just published it
2:40 ? What song
Yes, I know already ^-^.
O.O Awesome
@SimGirlKiss Isn't that what the DLC does?
that looks awesome... cant speak or understand japanease soo what is it about?^^
@MrBoynton27 Also my phone sucks at grammar.
what song is in the beginning??
I would gladly pay another $60 for a second Nier game just so I could hear a musical score as good as the first game was.
Your wish came true like 4 years ago friend from almost 10 years ago
Also you can do it once more now
The remastered vers. is out