@@DeathNoteLover13FTW the person that voiced the the protagonist has a UA-cam channel and he streamed the game it sounded like it was his first time voicing the character based on stuff he talked about on stream
@@Simplystimulatingthe characters look ugly but the world has a nice look to it, especially the larger natural scenes. Modern graphics with the older environmental art style would be nice
I honestly like them both a lot, the original has the mythic feel to it similar to shadow of the colossus and the way the black scrawl and Emil looked were really nice but the new one looks polished and clean, it looks like what we remember the original looking like and I love it.
Wow, the characters look so much better. The lighting and colors are so pretty. Kaine's eyes aren't bugging out of her head anymore. Really digging the changes.
@@hukesama8389 Which has its charms. Still does now, as it serves to convey the vibes of a post-apocalyptic world. Makes everything dirty so they feel more human and less outlandish.
@@haihuynh8772 the remake is definitely more refined looking but the original does have its charms and uniqueness even if looks bad to some. I like both for different reasons tbh
I'm torn. Certainly the textures look better, and the colors are definitely more vibrant, but I kinda liked how the colors aren't as vibrant in the original. The new version also seems a bit flatter lighting wise, and definitely loses some grit. I dunno I think both are fine, but I think I generally prefer the colortone of the original.
I dunno about that, the originals technicals were down to cavias inexperience with HD development in the 7th gen more than anything whereas automata looks like what they were going for. Cant say that the broken depth of field in most shots and extreme low res textures were some grand creative vision...its the drakengard effect where the game was unintentionally poor yet for fans somewhat contributed to the atmophere. Totally get it but it wasnt intentional at all
@@MrInuhanyou123 Intention doesn't matter as much as the end result. The old nier's lighting might have been a result of the dev's inexperience, but it coincidentally fit the tone of the game very well, more than the new lighting anyway.
@@master2497 people use authorial intent whenever its convenient and discard it whenever its inconvenient. I think the divergent looks between releases are notable but not in an inferior versus superior kind of way, atleast not in terms of pure art direction. One thing i will say is objectively better in this release is young niers design. The original ps3 young nier looked absolutely ridiculous, especially with those random 3 hair spikes jutting out of the side of his head lmao. He looked like a yugioh character in a game where everyone else had normal hairstyles
@@MrInuhanyou123 I honestly don't care about authorial intent here. I just know which one I personally think is more interesting. If the new version was what they originally envisioned for the game to look like, good for them. That doesn't change the fact that I think I prefer the older look better. Though I do agree that young Nier's hair is certainly much improved in the new version.
While the new version might look better overall, I prefer the lighting of the original. It gave the game a very nostalgic or dreamy look, which the new one is lacking imo.
I hope they remake the Gestalt version later down the line as well. I'm kind of more interested in playing as the older protagonist. But if I remember correctly, I don't think we ever got Replicant in the US, so I think it's good that they're doing that one instead.
It's the same exact game so there's no point in making it yet again. What they could do though is like add an update or dlc so that you play as Papa Nier for the story instead for those who want to play as him.
They said if the game sold half as well as Automata, then they would consider adding him which is nice. It would be cool if later on they released a goty version of the game, which has both the Father dlc and the Brother in one package. And had alternate art with the Father that said, NieR Gestalt 1.22 instead :)
Only reason to have papa nier is for nostalgia, the has always meant to be played as the brother so i dont see the point of having another version. I wouldnt hace proble if its just a skin and maybe changes some dialog.
Although I get a taste of nostalgia, remembering the version of the previous years ("eh, there were times"), I am really in awe of the new. I have grown older and my experience has become broader, and I feel like a new perspective on old things is really something that I really missed. I'm also like OH MY, nothing motivates like Kaine's remarks! Working with sound was the final touch
Honestly...think the old one looks better. I mean yeah, the remaster looks prettier to be sure (though metal objects certainly didn't make the transition well), but the original looks darker and rougher, fits better with world Nier takes place in. Kaine also seems much more expressive in the older one as well. Also, personally, I like Papa Nier better. I'd rather play as an awkward old beefcake than a typical peppy anime pretty boy, bit more unique. Plus I got a thing for eyepatches
I really love how the graphic is so much better and they even use the same dub as the original one. But am I the only one who like the colors palette/tone, lighting, shadow shading in the old one more than the new version?😂
actually... the dub is not the same as the original, however they did bring back many of the same voice actors to redo the voice acting. so you won't even notice they that did new voice acting.
I feel kinda the same as I did with Twilight Princess HD - I love the remodeling and slight gameplay changes, but I did love the ambience and colors of the original ^^
I don't know if its just me, but I just like the old time looks than the remastered version. Just a part of me is yearning for the old version with their original ost
i think the only thing i don't like about the remaster is how they made emil's design, he's a bit more cartoonish now, i like the original because of how terrifying it looks and how it takes time to get used to his new face.
@tom gu nier is def not a shounen anything lol. Appearance aside the personality is what matters. Oversaturation of teens or sad dads should mean nothing
@tom gu because kaine and nier in a sequel novel are implied to have had feelings for each other or at least kaine did by the end as the book is from her perspective, spoilers for ending c right here why else would he literally erase himself from history to save a girl he's been traveling with over raising his daughter?
@@insertname7325 is it the morally right thing to sacrifice your entire existence and the memories of your friends, thereby also leaving your very own daughter who can't live alone by herself without any family, just to save someone that you travelled with for some time from something which was inevitably going to happen?
Gotta say, I think I like emil better in the older one. He looks more rugged/ancient/creepy. Also, as others have said, the tone and shading of the older one will be missed. I like a lot of the new stuff tho. Edit: Also a lot of the textures just look too flat, in comparison and all the scenes that weren't originally full daylight/maximum brightness are now too bright. Almost nothing is even slightly obscured/dark now.
I can't help but feel like when these dark, gritty games get remade/remastered, it's always the lighting that I feel like it's ruined in the process. The textures look great, but it you compare the lighting effects of the original to the new, it feels like all the characters are under artificial lights and not in a world of twilight. Incidentally, I feel the exact same way about the GameCube version of LoZ Twilight Princess and its Wii/Wii U counterparts. I really loved the look of the environments in those games and now... It feels too bland. (Ex. 2:06 look at how the light hits the dancers and the environment and tell me the right doesn't look more interesting than the left)
Eh, I really get the need for "consistency" with the latest franchise entry ala Xenoblade Definitive but I miss the shitty browns and not-perfect and lateral faces of old. Kaine may have bug-eyes but her tall face and long nose give her more memorability than "anime pretty face".
Hm, it looks like the Remaster lacks contrast. Weiss looks really flat here. I also kinda like the blurry effect of the original. It made everthying look more eerie and dark. And Kainé looks weird tbh. Her original model had sharper features and made her look more "rough" which complimented her character very well :/
I think it has a lot to do with the way the video was rendered. Even the black screens in the new trailer look more greyish, whereas the original is darker overall.
With regard to Kaine's 'new' face shape. It's to make her look more like A2 to tie into the fact that her clone mind was taken from 'a girl who liked to pick flowers with her Grandmother'.
finally a comment that captures how I feel ... i was getting sick from reading dozens of discussions of masculinity vs femininity, west vs japan etc... that was never what I was interested in (the point for me), the adult character is interesting because its different to play it that way.... its different to face all these challenges with a man who is old enough to be a father and all those scenes where kids run around give the idea of who you play and what your character possible thinks in his head ... it makes everything you experience in the game different... honestly this is what was making this game so much more appealing for me back in the day, at least for me. In a world where anime boys and girls wield ultra-greatswords, overcome obstacles with little effort and are over-fantasized and over-sexualized, to finally play a more mature character was a breath of fresh air for me. Finally something I can relate to damn it. For this reason the ps3 version will have a unique appeal to it. It's pretty bad we are forced to play a boy character without the ability to switch and choose what we would rather like to experience.
@@retryhikaru184 Exactly. I also think that the brother MC looks kinda bland and generic. The older one has a way more interesting character design imo.
The remaster is amazing everything is say is perfect, well almost. The original game had such a different mood with its lighting that just seems like it's lost in the remaster.
2:14 is a good example of what I prefered in the old version. look at weiss he looks way better in the old version with better shading and better metallic texture. overall most of the shading in the old version was more dark and fits the game. Like at 2:00 they look too bland in the new version. Besides that I wil give it a try for sure seeing how the game goes as a brother and not as (I prefer him a lot) father... hope it get's a father dlc would even pay for it^^
Notice that the Nier Replicant opening takes place a hundred years ahead Gestalt (0:25). From what I heard they're both "cannon", so I assume that detail is intentional?
Devola/Popola just so beautiful in the Remake, the twins is the reason why I pre-ordered this game althought I got a sadness for the ending and the truth of this world.
As a trailer the old one looks better but having experienced the "early xbox 360" type of lightning in plenty of games, it gets really old really fast. Way too saturated and shooting the contrast through the roof left my eyes hurting after a while. Really glad the remaster looks the way it does
It’s strange how a black screen appears light grey in the nier replicant footage. Seems to me the video settings were fucked up on the left, low contrast high brightness
I was expecting the right side to be the remaster because the blacks in the background at the beginning was actually black. Now we got grey which is weird.
Yeah I was struggling then and is it just me but does the left side just look more blander than the right? I don't know but my eye was just drawn to the right as far more visually exciting.
some characters are looking better in their old version. Looking at Emil who looks in dat scene so much darker and better than this shiny new one. On the other hand you can see a lot of good new things. I will love this game for sure but I rlly think the old face with the less animeish nose style + the darker theme is a bit better for some characters. Nvm Bought it allready :D
@@andersonrayregalia8378 They're blue in the original Japanese version of the game, same with the brown eyes in the remake. You don't seem to know what localization is.
@@andersonrayregalia8378 No, I'm just saying that if something wasn't changed between regional versions of a game then it is not localization, and that you don't seem to know what that word means.
the original was trying to look conform to anime face shapes (daddy nier looks out of place in this context) given this version of the game is after automata, automata set the standards of how anime face proportions would look like in 3D, while still looking somewhat realistic. as added bonus, because the faces in this version dont look like anime, their faces can do more expressions. example: you can visually see how pissed kaine looks now.
I have to say, even if the remaster is more advanced and will certainely run at a much better framerate, I prefer the art direction of the original. I just wanted the base game with minor changes and 60 FPS...
automata player plays the original prequel: YOU CAN'T SHOOT MAGIC WHILE ATTACKING? YOU NEED TO STAND STILL TO SHOOT MAGIC ATTACKS? WHY IS THE CHARACTER'S RUNNING SO STIFF? NO ACCELERATION? WHERE'S THE Z-TARGETING OPTION ON NORMAL? (the lock-on option) WHY IS THE DODGE BUTTON IN AN AKWARD POSITION? I've seen some gameplay of the OG nier, and these are the problems. it's gonna suck if you cannot enjoy the story when you need to fight the controls. having picked the game up today, glad it plays a lot like automata.
I actually dig original graphics more. Like, sure, there is a lot of changes for the better but they also made everything plastic clean, whereas original had a lot more texture, on Emil's head for instance. Kaine's face seemed more expressive in original as well.
Ikr. Kaine’s face seems to have some more emotion in the original. While some people don’t like the way her eyes pop out, I think it gives it her design some uniqueness and charm and more human-like even though it might be strange looking
I think it has to do with the lighting systems they are using, I'm assuming they are using some sort of global illumination which makes some scenes seem alot more natural but sacrifices some of the artistic integrity of some of the scenes
Eh, I straight up ignored the original release of Nier because I didn't like the look of the father. Felt his character model looked kinda crummy and I didn't want to play as him through the whole game. So this is a much welcome remaster.
@@sanictheedgehog Actually having started this series with NieR Automata I have to say that the older bloke is far more appealing to me as an MC than some rather bland bishonen character. I admittedly never even knew this game existed when it first came out and I regret it because the dad seems a lot more cooler to me coming from Japan than the cookie cutter pretty boys they usually have.
Same here. I heard about how great game it was but when I found out about this and it's technical experience it threw me off. I would not like running around with a character i'm not comfortable with
side by side I think the Replicant remake looks better technically but at the same time I feel like some aestheticvs got lost in translation. Like yes, technically it looks better, the lighting is beter and obviously the mechanics are a million times better. That being said, th color and lighting look completley different and they havea completley different feel. That and all of the cahracters look more conventionally pretty whereas everyone in the original game had a weird look to them; and I wouldnt hold that to the fault of the modlers, but rather a stylistic choice. But above all else.... I miss Father Nier.
Am I the only one that feels like aspects of the original look better? A few stylised things (like the duller look of the dark lances and the big lizard shades cross eye) and the lighting looks a better in places, even if it's not *technically* better. Worthy trade-off regardless - I've been playing the remaster the past few days and most of the environmental stuff and all of the characters look soooo much better. So happy to be reliving this game again after all these years.
The "original" was the XBox 360 version in Japan but was released as both Xbox 360 and PS3 world wide, while the remake is based on the Japanese PS3 version
The part from 0:00 to 00:23 if only motivational speaker had that zeal in their voice and words then only maybe then they'd finally reach their true potential
Why did they have to go and change the music, voice acting, and models so much? Original Kaine looks like she will be me up for looking at her the wrong way. Nu-Kaine looks like an anime doll and doesn't sound so angry.
:c no se, extraño el temazo original de _The Shadowlord_ con ese bellisimo organo con tonos graves y a papa Nier. Aun así, el opening con unos buenos spoilers esta genial
A que no hay comparación entre la musica amtigua de shadowlord y la de ahora? La de ahora no lleva casi nada de instrumentos, la anterior estaba cargada de ellos, mucha percusion, sonidos de fondo, el violin detras que nunca paraba, las otras voces que habian ademas en el coro... :""/ que decepción
I love the new graphics and looks for the characters but still love the older looks on the older graphics shame I can't have both xD unless I have the original game which i do :)
As someone not looking at this with out nostalgia glasses the old one looks, just not good. It seems to have suffered the fate of any PS3 game imo, I also never played the OG but every comparison I've seen and already having put like 50 hours in replicant here I can say I'd likely still prefer the new one. The old version seems clunky af gameplay wise as well. What I don't get are the age differences of the MCs between new and old. O_O That's trippy.
context: the "Father" was the main character for Nier gestalt in the JP's Xbox 360 version and for US and EU, they had this character for all the versions. apparently it's to appeal to a more edgier audience. so the "Brother" was exclusive to the JP audience. until this version, where it was consistently Brother nier for the international release.
I prefer the remake one, well aside from i never played gestalt version😂, i found it a little ridicilous if the relationship is between father and daughter, brother and sister is more make sense for me
Japan likes bishonen characters, so the original was developed with this younger character (Yonah's brother), but because the western audience doesn't like bishonen, in all versions outside of Japan they replaced him with the older character you see in this video (Yonah's father). The game and story are exaclty the same, just some dialog is a little different and the relationship to other characters changes very slightly. The remake only has one version based on the japanes version in which you play as the brother.
@@EVPointMaster Oh okay that makes sense now, I thought it might've been her father. We play as him in replicant in this side quest kind of thing. Was pretty cool.
Basically there were 2 versions made the older man was meant to appeal more to western audiences whereas the young teenage boy was meant to appeal to the Japanese audience. I personally like the old man better, but technically the younger version is the original version.
When the original Nier was made in Japan they made exclusive versions for PS3 and Xbox 360. Replicant the one with the brother as the protag was PS3 exclusive while Gestalt the one with the father as the protag was Xbox 360 exclusive. When Nier came out on PS3 in the west chose Gestalt because they thought westerners like the parent-child dynamic more
The entire environment and feel of the game, and characters, have completely changed. While I'm glad I got the replicant version, this makes me want to play the original as well.
Jeez man, only 20% of Replicant footage looks better than original. Color grading have been made white-blue ish (similar to Automata), shadows are off, many effects look tame, and biggest of all the character models look so off. It's almost a different game to look at. Man, for every improvement Toylogic made (esp combat), they undid something that didn't need rework.
![NIER - Opening [HD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/P8XTbluLDyE/mqdefault.jpg)
Honestly, more games should start unapologetically with Laura Bailey’s character going on a rampant swear-a-thon.
I'm so glad they rerecorded the original english dub voice actors, the Kaine line in the intro is my favorite line from this series!
You mean rerecorded. Recasted implies changing the actors
It’s the same actors
@@__dane__ are they all the same I thought the voice for the protagonists was different
@@hoppie4263 yes im pretty sure everyone came back
@@DeathNoteLover13FTW the person that voiced the the protagonist has a UA-cam channel and he streamed the game it sounded like it was his first time voicing the character based on stuff he talked about on stream
I'll miss the gothic Shadow of the Colossus feeling of the original graphics.
Reshade for the rescue haha
Old game looked like ass no nostalgia would ever make me think differently
@@Simplystimulatingthe characters look ugly but the world has a nice look to it, especially the larger natural scenes. Modern graphics with the older environmental art style would be nice
I know besides everything looking like it was modeled on Windows 98 i thought the og game looked good
I honestly like them both a lot, the original has the mythic feel to it similar to shadow of the colossus and the way the black scrawl and Emil looked were really nice but the new one looks polished and clean, it looks like what we remember the original looking like and I love it.
Wow, the characters look so much better. The lighting and colors are so pretty. Kaine's eyes aren't bugging out of her head anymore. Really digging the changes.
I prefer the other’s color tone, I guess. It looks warmer and more surreal.
@@haihuynh8772 it was during an era where every game has that piss and poo colour filter.
@@hukesama8389 Which has its charms. Still does now, as it serves to convey the vibes of a post-apocalyptic world. Makes everything dirty so they feel more human and less outlandish.
@@haihuynh8772 the remake is definitely more refined looking but the original does have its charms and uniqueness even if looks bad to some. I like both for different reasons tbh
I like Kaine's look in the OG, she fits the voice acting
The new look looks like Drakengard 3 Zero vr 2.0, all beauty and no spunk
I'm torn. Certainly the textures look better, and the colors are definitely more vibrant, but I kinda liked how the colors aren't as vibrant in the original. The new version also seems a bit flatter lighting wise, and definitely loses some grit.
I dunno I think both are fine, but I think I generally prefer the colortone of the original.
I dunno about that, the originals technicals were down to cavias inexperience with HD development in the 7th gen more than anything whereas automata looks like what they were going for. Cant say that the broken depth of field in most shots and extreme low res textures were some grand creative vision...its the drakengard effect where the game was unintentionally poor yet for fans somewhat contributed to the atmophere. Totally get it but it wasnt intentional at all
@@MrInuhanyou123 Intention doesn't matter as much as the end result. The old nier's lighting might have been a result of the dev's inexperience, but it coincidentally fit the tone of the game very well, more than the new lighting anyway.
@@master2497 people use authorial intent whenever its convenient and discard it whenever its inconvenient. I think the divergent looks between releases are notable but not in an inferior versus superior kind of way, atleast not in terms of pure art direction. One thing i will say is objectively better in this release is young niers design. The original ps3 young nier looked absolutely ridiculous, especially with those random 3 hair spikes jutting out of the side of his head lmao. He looked like a yugioh character in a game where everyone else had normal hairstyles
@@MrInuhanyou123 I honestly don't care about authorial intent here. I just know which one I personally think is more interesting. If the new version was what they originally envisioned for the game to look like, good for them. That doesn't change the fact that I think I prefer the older look better. Though I do agree that young Nier's hair is certainly much improved in the new version.
i feel meh about it. replicant still as devoid of color but this time its on the brown ish scale instead of black
I miss papa
While the new version might look better overall, I prefer the lighting of the original. It gave the game a very nostalgic or dreamy look, which the new one is lacking imo.
Oh God not this shit again 😒
Yeah? The ugly lighting where you can't see shit? Totally preferable. Can't believe Replicant let's you make out your surroundings.
I think its interesting that there is a hundred year difference could be because its papa nier and brother nier timeline for gestalt/replicant
Could be because what ??
Would you rather be Nier Onii Chan or Nier Daddy?
daddy
Papa Nier, pls.
I like bro nier's design a lot but father daughter story is way more touching
Big brother nier makes way more damn sense story wise and design wise imo. No interest in the painfully insecure styling that is old man nier.
Nier oniichan Seems legit tho
Going to turn contrast all the way up for a nostalgic experience 🤣
Same hahaha
@@deus_nsf ENB filters to the rescue
Goddamn, that is a very STRONG opening. Let's GO!!!
Emil was so much scarier looking in the original. I can find the new one cute in a weird way, but that original Emil. Nightmare fuel
His head and clothes are much cleaner, making him look more cartoonish.
This is what he looks like without his robe btw: imgur.com/a/QJoLe6I
I hope they remake the Gestalt version later down the line as well. I'm kind of more interested in playing as the older protagonist. But if I remember correctly, I don't think we ever got Replicant in the US, so I think it's good that they're doing that one instead.
It's the same exact game so there's no point in making it yet again. What they could do though is like add an update or dlc so that you play as Papa Nier for the story instead for those who want to play as him.
i believe they confirmed you will be able to pick between playing Gestalt or normal versions of the game
@@Noble17712 Papa Nier's only in the DLC portion like the original Replicant :(
But that takes a huge amount of effort out of the mod teams hands!
They said if the game sold half as well as Automata, then they would consider adding him which is nice.
It would be cool if later on they released a goty version of the game, which has both the Father dlc and the Brother in one package. And had alternate art with the Father that said, NieR Gestalt 1.22 instead :)
Only reason to have papa nier is for nostalgia, the has always meant to be played as the brother so i dont see the point of having another version.
I wouldnt hace proble if its just a skin and maybe changes some dialog.
Although I get a taste of nostalgia, remembering the version of the previous years ("eh, there were times"), I am really in awe of the new. I have grown older and my experience has become broader, and I feel like a new perspective on old things is really something that I really missed.
I'm also like OH MY, nothing motivates like Kaine's remarks! Working with sound was the final touch
I just love that it's KAINE who starts the opening, just--everything she says is jsut amazing and not child appropriate XD
Honestly...think the old one looks better. I mean yeah, the remaster looks prettier to be sure (though metal objects certainly didn't make the transition well), but the original looks darker and rougher, fits better with world Nier takes place in. Kaine also seems much more expressive in the older one as well. Also, personally, I like Papa Nier better. I'd rather play as an awkward old beefcake than a typical peppy anime pretty boy, bit more unique. Plus I got a thing for eyepatches
@@mainkilla ? 💀
based. we need manly dad men back
@@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlwmanly Man only old with gruff voice durr
I really love how the graphic is so much better and they even use the same dub as the original one. But am I the only one who like the colors palette/tone, lighting, shadow shading in the old one more than the new version?😂
actually... the dub is not the same as the original, however they did bring back many of the same voice actors to redo the voice acting. so you won't even notice they that did new voice acting.
@@WednesdayMan as bonus, the new content features pascal, 2B and 9S!!
for all the languages
I wish you could still play as Dad Nier.
Not gonna say anything
@@xursyn you literally just did 💀
Papa Nier is best Nier
@@SuccessfulMentality94 anything i said would've been a spoiler. If he played the original Nier, then he would just know off the bat
@@xursyn that’s why instead of saying “not gonna say anything” just don’t say anything
I feel kinda the same as I did with Twilight Princess HD - I love the remodeling and slight gameplay changes, but I did love the ambience and colors of the original ^^
I will miss the big cartoony eyes in the original art style, but I understand they wanted to make the designs more consistent with Automata.
I don't know if its just me, but I just like the old time looks than the remastered version. Just a part of me is yearning for the old version with their original ost
you can always play NieR: Gestalt for PS3, it's not going anywhere
@@KonniWynn I know lol. I'm ganna get Emulator for Nier Gestalt and buy the Nier Replicant on steam
i think the only thing i don't like about the remaster is how they made emil's design, he's a bit more cartoonish now, i like the original because of how terrifying it looks and how it takes time to get used to his new face.
The weirdest change for me is 1:44. What was wrong with the lights? Just seems like a strange thing to change.
Yeah, the older one seemed sooooo much darker/intense with its lighting.
I actually prefer the original graphics it brought out the dark tone of the story more.
hell fucking no.
Hell yeah
*I’m glad that they decided to go with NieR Replicant’s version of the story with the protagonist being an older brother.
Same story
@tom gu nier is def not a shounen anything lol. Appearance aside the personality is what matters. Oversaturation of teens or sad dads should mean nothing
@tom gu because kaine and nier in a sequel novel are implied to have had feelings for each other or at least kaine did by the end as the book is from her perspective, spoilers for ending c right here why else would he literally erase himself from history to save a girl he's been traveling with over raising his daughter?
@@soularth Because it could be the morally right thing to do?
@@insertname7325 is it the morally right thing to sacrifice your entire existence and the memories of your friends, thereby also leaving your very own daughter who can't live alone by herself without any family, just to save someone that you travelled with for some time from something which was inevitably going to happen?
Gotta say, I think I like emil better in the older one. He looks more rugged/ancient/creepy. Also, as others have said, the tone and shading of the older one will be missed. I like a lot of the new stuff tho.
Edit: Also a lot of the textures just look too flat, in comparison and all the scenes that weren't originally full daylight/maximum brightness are now too bright. Almost nothing is even slightly obscured/dark now.
I still feel like the old one was better I mean papa NieR is the shit
@@mainkilla or the entire human race lol
@@mainkilla I'm training to look like this man
I can't help but feel like when these dark, gritty games get remade/remastered, it's always the lighting that I feel like it's ruined in the process. The textures look great, but it you compare the lighting effects of the original to the new, it feels like all the characters are under artificial lights and not in a world of twilight. Incidentally, I feel the exact same way about the GameCube version of LoZ Twilight Princess and its Wii/Wii U counterparts. I really loved the look of the environments in those games and now... It feels too bland. (Ex. 2:06 look at how the light hits the dancers and the environment and tell me the right doesn't look more interesting than the left)
Now I definetely know that I was correct in thinking that the Remake's colors look so unsaturated.
2:37 ah yes thank you for allowing me to see this scene again in hd :'(
Eh, I really get the need for "consistency" with the latest franchise entry ala Xenoblade Definitive but I miss the shitty browns and not-perfect and lateral faces of old. Kaine may have bug-eyes but her tall face and long nose give her more memorability than "anime pretty face".
They just make it look correct to the original artwork.
I actually agree. I find the more imperfect facial features a lot more charming.
so ur saying
bad model > good model
because hurr durr more memorable damn the internet loves to complains
@@milk-el8vq Don't know what to tell ya. People love what they love, frankly.
Hm, it looks like the Remaster lacks contrast. Weiss looks really flat here. I also kinda like the blurry effect of the original. It made everthying look more eerie and dark. And Kainé looks weird tbh. Her original model had sharper features and made her look more "rough" which complimented her character very well :/
I think it has a lot to do with the way the video was rendered. Even the black screens in the new trailer look more greyish, whereas the original is darker overall.
With regard to Kaine's 'new' face shape. It's to make her look more like A2 to tie into the fact that her clone mind was taken from 'a girl who liked to pick flowers with her Grandmother'.
the old kaine look like gothic lmao..honestly i like this new vers kaine
I swear y'all haven't even played the game read how she was described in route B
@@carpetfluff35 no its closer to the concept design
At first it was just a simple remaster...
it was never one to begin with
I kinda like the father protagonist more. The only reason why I want to play the PS3 version is to see the story from the fathers perspective
finally a comment that captures how I feel ... i was getting sick from reading dozens of discussions of masculinity vs femininity, west vs japan etc...
that was never what I was interested in (the point for me), the adult character is interesting because its different to play it that way....
its different to face all these challenges with a man who is old enough to be a father and all those scenes where kids run around give the idea of who you play and what your character possible thinks in his head ... it makes everything you experience in the game different...
honestly this is what was making this game so much more appealing for me back in the day, at least for me. In a world where anime boys and girls wield ultra-greatswords, overcome obstacles with little effort and are over-fantasized and over-sexualized, to finally play a more mature character was a breath of fresh air for me. Finally something I can relate to damn it.
For this reason the ps3 version will have a unique appeal to it. It's pretty bad we are forced to play a boy character without the ability to switch and choose what we would rather like to experience.
@@retryhikaru184 Exactly. I also think that the brother MC looks kinda bland and generic. The older one has a way more interesting character design imo.
@@retryhikaru184 why are you yapping lmao
@@shinramune9002 what's the point of commenting, if this is all you're going to write?
@@retryhikaru184 I'm just asking why are you b1tching about pointless things
The remaster is amazing everything is say is perfect, well almost. The original game had such a different mood with its lighting that just seems like it's lost in the remaster.
Now that I see it side by side the remake is a bit too clean
So I'm not the only one..
Yeah. Everyone looks like a Barbie doll. Automata gets a pass because everyone’s an android with supernatural powers. Not Gestalt.
@@haihuynh8772bro people are clean in gestalt the graphics are just bad the world isnt in the best state but they can still bathe and shit lmao
@@milk-el8vq Cool, this isn’t about people’s hygiene.
2:14 is a good example of what I prefered in the old version. look at weiss he looks way better in the old version with better shading and better metallic texture. overall most of the shading in the old version was more dark and fits the game. Like at 2:00 they look too bland in the new version. Besides that I wil give it a try for sure seeing how the game goes as a brother and not as (I prefer him a lot) father... hope it get's a father dlc would even pay for it^^
Things were looking metalic like that because it was a new technology, so they wanted to use it to show how cool it was
Notice that the Nier Replicant opening takes place a hundred years ahead Gestalt (0:25). From what I heard they're both "cannon", so I assume that detail is intentional?
Yes, Yoko-san once explained it. It makes no sense that it happens on the same timeline because the prologue then makes no sense but it is a thing.
And in the Prologue Gestalt the year is 2049 while Replicant the year is 2053
Devola/Popola just so beautiful in the Remake, the twins is the reason why I pre-ordered this game althought I got a sadness for the ending and the truth of this world.
Magnificent graphics glow up!
As a trailer the old one looks better but having experienced the "early xbox 360" type of lightning in plenty of games, it gets really old really fast. Way too saturated and shooting the contrast through the roof left my eyes hurting after a while. Really glad the remaster looks the way it does
Facade just looks beautiful in Replicant Ver. 1.22
I feel like since brother NieR doesn't wear and eye patch it's way easier to tell how he's feeling. It's easier to tell when something's clearly amiss
i remember i played this game on my xbox 360. but i just stay in the field and listen to the woman singing while playing guitar in the square.
It’s strange how a black screen appears light grey in the nier replicant footage. Seems to me the video settings were fucked up on the left, low contrast high brightness
As someone who has play the old version of nier (ps3) and seeing the new one makes me pump up
Pls bring back daddy nier as I DLC AND NOT A PLAYABLE LEVEL
Yes, I too want Papa Nier to be playable for the story and not just the DLC level.
0:44 for some reason I prefer the old version for this shot
I was expecting the right side to be the remaster because the blacks in the background at the beginning was actually black. Now we got grey which is weird.
I actually got a little confused at the beginning too 😂
Yeah I was struggling then and is it just me but does the left side just look more blander than the right? I don't know but my eye was just drawn to the right as far more visually exciting.
Why does weiss look way more detailed in the ps3 version?
best game wich really got a new input in my life
some characters are looking better in their old version. Looking at Emil who looks in dat scene so much darker and better than this shiny new one. On the other hand you can see a lot of good new things. I will love this game for sure but I rlly think the old face with the less animeish nose style + the darker theme is a bit better for some characters. Nvm Bought it allready :D
devola and popola r so fine in the remake
The protagonist seems more human imo 👉🏻👈🏻
To be able to copy down to the slightest detail every frame still astounds me with remakes
"Why the long face?" - Everyone in the original
did ya hear that NieR Gestalt is now compatable with the One/Series model Xboxes?
yep, I already made a video comparing a cutscene between Gestalt and Replicant ver.1.22...
Now I'm just wondering, why did they change Kaine's eyecolor from blue to brown?
The same reason the tower/big ben/empire state building differ between game versions. Localization
@@andersonrayregalia8378 its Yoka Taro we are talking about here.
If he changed the eye color, it likely has nothing to do with localization.
@@andersonrayregalia8378 They're blue in the original Japanese version of the game, same with the brown eyes in the remake. You don't seem to know what localization is.
@@Schneeregen_ Oooo, did I piss you off? I'm sorry but my rational conjecture doesnt care about your feeling and not just mine but most
@@andersonrayregalia8378 No, I'm just saying that if something wasn't changed between regional versions of a game then it is not localization, and that you don't seem to know what that word means.
Love the new versions of them don't look so buggy eyed.
the original was trying to look conform to anime face shapes (daddy nier looks out of place in this context)
given this version of the game is after automata, automata set the standards of how anime face proportions would look like in 3D, while still looking somewhat realistic.
as added bonus, because the faces in this version dont look like anime, their faces can do more expressions.
example: you can visually see how pissed kaine looks now.
there are certain elements and setpieces i like more from the original but overall, the changes are positive.
It looks like the game lost alot of its black in the transition, but it's probably just the recording.
Ky Kiske and Sol Badguy side by side
Damn son! Kaine is wild as fuck I like it.
Incredible Work 👍
Kaine in remake looks like Zero (Drakengard 3) that's cool
Ah, spoilery like the original! NieR is back!
I have to say, even if the remaster is more advanced and will certainely run at a much better framerate, I prefer the art direction of the original. I just wanted the base game with minor changes and 60 FPS...
automata player plays the original prequel:
YOU CAN'T SHOOT MAGIC WHILE ATTACKING?
YOU NEED TO STAND STILL TO SHOOT MAGIC ATTACKS?
WHY IS THE CHARACTER'S RUNNING SO STIFF? NO ACCELERATION?
WHERE'S THE Z-TARGETING OPTION ON NORMAL? (the lock-on option)
WHY IS THE DODGE BUTTON IN AN AKWARD POSITION?
I've seen some gameplay of the OG nier, and these are the problems.
it's gonna suck if you cannot enjoy the story when you need to fight the controls.
having picked the game up today, glad it plays a lot like automata.
I actually dig original graphics more. Like, sure, there is a lot of changes for the better but they also made everything plastic clean, whereas original had a lot more texture, on Emil's head for instance. Kaine's face seemed more expressive in original as well.
Ikr. Kaine’s face seems to have some more emotion in the original. While some people don’t like the way her eyes pop out, I think it gives it her design some uniqueness and charm and more human-like even though it might be strange looking
man i knew they made kaine look more like 2b her chin and nose
is it me or some scenes look way better on the old version?
I think it has to do with the lighting systems they are using, I'm assuming they are using some sort of global illumination which makes some scenes seem alot more natural but sacrifices some of the artistic integrity of some of the scenes
@@MemeticVirus I noticed some of the scenes in the new version are missing some of the affects in the old opening
Eh, I straight up ignored the original release of Nier because I didn't like the look of the father. Felt his character model looked kinda crummy and I didn't want to play as him through the whole game. So this is a much welcome remaster.
@@sanictheedgehog Actually having started this series with NieR Automata I have to say that the older bloke is far more appealing to me as an MC than some rather bland bishonen character. I admittedly never even knew this game existed when it first came out and I regret it because the dad seems a lot more cooler to me coming from Japan than the cookie cutter pretty boys they usually have.
@Caio Coelho And yet you cared enough to reply to me.
Same here. I heard about how great game it was but when I found out about this and it's technical experience it threw me off. I would not like running around with a character i'm not comfortable with
side by side I think the Replicant remake looks better technically but at the same time I feel like some aestheticvs got lost in translation. Like yes, technically it looks better, the lighting is beter and obviously the mechanics are a million times better. That being said, th color and lighting look completley different and they havea completley different feel. That and all of the cahracters look more conventionally pretty whereas everyone in the original game had a weird look to them; and I wouldnt hold that to the fault of the modlers, but rather a stylistic choice.
But above all else.... I miss Father Nier.
Am I the only one that feels like aspects of the original look better? A few stylised things (like the duller look of the dark lances and the big lizard shades cross eye) and the lighting looks a better in places, even if it's not *technically* better.
Worthy trade-off regardless - I've been playing the remaster the past few days and most of the environmental stuff and all of the characters look soooo much better. So happy to be reliving this game again after all these years.
Also the gameplay is much cleaner lol
I thought that hansel and gretel looked better in the original. The shadowlords room too
2:43 my god kaine looks really bad at the old one
It looks happier.
Lucena woke must of woke up and lost falchion
The characters in the original version looks like they come from the xbox360 spider man 3 game for some reason
The "original" was the XBox 360 version in Japan but was released as both Xbox 360 and PS3 world wide, while the remake is based on the Japanese PS3 version
The part from 0:00 to 00:23 if only motivational speaker had that zeal in their voice and words then only maybe then they'd finally reach their true potential
Why did they have to go and change the music, voice acting, and models so much? Original Kaine looks like she will be me up for looking at her the wrong way. Nu-Kaine looks like an anime doll and doesn't sound so angry.
I like both
Christ the difference is uncanny
:c no se, extraño el temazo original de _The Shadowlord_ con ese bellisimo organo con tonos graves y a papa Nier. Aun así, el opening con unos buenos spoilers esta genial
A que no hay comparación entre la musica amtigua de shadowlord y la de ahora? La de ahora no lleva casi nada de instrumentos, la anterior estaba cargada de ellos, mucha percusion, sonidos de fondo, el violin detras que nunca paraba, las otras voces que habian ademas en el coro... :""/ que decepción
No one knows what you're saying
@@CFEKOSMOS I wasn't speak for the people who know english, bro xD
@@CFEKOSMOS traslate: I miss the old theme of _the shadowlord_ drums and organs... I miss it and papa nier... Papa nier I miss you
@@CassyRiv Si? Que mal por tí.
i totally would like 2 remasters or at least a special free DLC update to the remaster of a Gestalt verse.
I love the new graphics and looks for the characters but still love the older looks on the older graphics shame I can't have both xD unless I have the original game which i do :)
Qué temazo...pinta bien la acción.
As someone not looking at this with out nostalgia glasses the old one looks, just not good. It seems to have suffered the fate of any PS3 game imo, I also never played the OG but every comparison I've seen and already having put like 50 hours in replicant here I can say I'd likely still prefer the new one. The old version seems clunky af gameplay wise as well.
What I don't get are the age differences of the MCs between new and old. O_O That's trippy.
context: the "Father" was the main character for Nier gestalt in the JP's Xbox 360 version
and for US and EU, they had this character for all the versions.
apparently it's to appeal to a more edgier audience.
so the "Brother" was exclusive to the JP audience.
until this version, where it was consistently Brother nier for the international release.
Wow.. ^ ^
huh? 1300 changed to 1400 years in future?
I prefer the remake one, well aside from i never played gestalt version😂, i found it a little ridicilous if the relationship is between father and daughter, brother and sister is more make sense for me
Colors and tone looks better in the original to me
Better? Different.
It looks good, but the new one feels too bright, or something. I forget the actual word, but the lighting/shading felt too bright.
1400??? They change timeline？
No, the nier gestalt version time is wrong. And this is Nier replicant not Nier gestalt.
@@jimrainer136 its not "wrong", its intentionally different as gestalt and replicant are different timelines
No Replicant is like 100 or 1000 years after Gestalt
@@Jester8492 wrong. 1000 years before is modern world
Hahaha, nerds
"This game is not a remake or a remaster, just an enhanced version"
Can someone explain to me who the hunk is in the original and why we playing as someone else???
Japan likes bishonen characters, so the original was developed with this younger character (Yonah's brother), but because the western audience doesn't like bishonen, in all versions outside of Japan they replaced him with the older character you see in this video (Yonah's father).
The game and story are exaclty the same, just some dialog is a little different and the relationship to other characters changes very slightly.
The remake only has one version based on the japanes version in which you play as the brother.
@@EVPointMaster Oh okay that makes sense now, I thought it might've been her father. We play as him in replicant in this side quest kind of thing. Was pretty cool.
Basically there were 2 versions made the older man was meant to appeal more to western audiences whereas the young teenage boy was meant to appeal to the Japanese audience. I personally like the old man better, but technically the younger version is the original version.
When the original Nier was made in Japan they made exclusive versions for PS3 and Xbox 360. Replicant the one with the brother as the protag was PS3 exclusive while Gestalt the one with the father as the protag was Xbox 360 exclusive. When Nier came out on PS3 in the west chose Gestalt because they thought westerners like the parent-child dynamic more
The golden textures are better in the old version lol
they pretty much remade the game theyre just being too humble about it
The entire environment and feel of the game, and characters, have completely changed. While I'm glad I got the replicant version, this makes me want to play the original as well.
But who pulled off the look better as the main protagonist? :3
Brother Nier all the way
Papa Nier is better imo, I also prefer his line delivery
I miss papa Nier but brother Nier is not bad honestly
I prefer dad Nier. He fits the tone better.
@@NateTheGreat101-c7l Papa nier>>>>brother nier
Jeez man, only 20% of Replicant footage looks better than original.
Color grading have been made white-blue ish (similar to Automata), shadows are off, many effects look tame, and biggest of all the character models look so off.
It's almost a different game to look at.
Man, for every improvement Toylogic made (esp combat), they undid something that didn't need rework.