@@Maxvla Thanks, this is good to keep in mind! I'm currently specced into entrapment since Freya, and didn't think about how being rooted could make them target melee instead. I'll have to get that changed
Back in the day, we would have a healer put on righteous fury before the adds came out so they ran for the healer. Placed traps and push backs to keep adds away from pally healer.
Holy smokes, these are easily the best classic guides I have ever seen. Definity subscribing and I can't wait to tell everyone to come watch these videos. Thanks mate.
A tip for healers: Hpalas should prioritize beacon on first 2 RANGED marks since they are the most dangerous, if you have enough mele marks is best for rshaman to start spamming chain heal on mele camp that plus the healing from holy light glyph should be enough to keep those marks alive.
I couldn't play the PTR but I'm fairly certain that dmg from Mark of the Fallen Champion did generate Blood Power in Vanilla WotLK. To the effect that the frequency between the marks would increase exponentially.
Wow, our raid didn't knew about the mark not giving runic power, and the runic power on the boss is kinda strange on the PTR rn as it updates kinda slowly. ty for the tips, we'll probably get him tonight
Hey Joardee I dont get why you wouldnt explain the strat you guys did with your guilds Holy Pries? And also never actualy show an Holy priest as an viable option in any of your videos, even he seems to be an integral part of your prog runs
It's a trade-off between appeasing the melee so they don't get parried when DBS turns around to cast abilities on the raid, or easier add killing. One strat is friendlier to melee, the other friendlier to ranged.
due to my poor observation, Does starfall ignore the blood beast's hard skin buff? feel free to reply with a bit of trash talk. I appreciate all replies eitherway XD
But Joardee, where's the Gunship Battle guide? How are we supposed to kill that super hard kill without a detailed guide and composition recommendation? ...yes I am not being serious. Fight is a joke, but also a welcome breather.
They moved all marks to the same group for prayer of healing. Strategy is only viable if you are running a holy priest. Disc can PoH also but it's probably better to let them do their normal thing.
You tell the ranged to stack in groups of two instead of solo spread. In general for pugs it's going to be easier to just tell ranged to stack as two. Else you risk the chance of hitting three or more targets with Blood Nova instead of just two.
Anyone know the exact rules on blood nova? It looks like he only targets ranged, is there a minimum number of ranged targets you need in order to grantee no melee get targeted? On the PTR we ran a strategy where the marked targets move in for chain heals.
@@erioyo Gotcha, I just quickly noticed at 9:50 that he had them all stacked in a group and thought it was so he didn't have to mouse around to heal them all, didn't notice priest in center of the 4 marks.
Hello dear Jordee, I find it very disheartening that the Deathbringer Saurfang video came before the amazing epic vehicle 3d chess strategy encounter. I am not able to defeat such incredible strength encounter thus this video adds no real information to me and my elitist guild before we can progress the flying boat experience in the next 5 weeks.
i love how your first solution to deal with the beasts is have a lock gimp their damage instead of maybe, I dunno, a prot warrior shockwave? Timers were always spot for this fight back in the day (to be fair I used bigwigs which has greatly more reliable and accurate timers than DBM) and I don't see it being any different, there is a difference between recommending the class that makes it easier and being against a particular class/spec. Give all the options and let raid teams do what's best for them instead of just copying how 1 team did it. In the 18 years history of youtube video guides all the best guides give examples of all classes that can do particular jobs, be the best Joardee because people can't think for themselves anymore so you need to do it for them.
GOOD LUCK ON THAT DBW! But lets get real you're prob getting the mail belt.
XD
Who is DBW prio though?
@@Kristocxtank priority 😂
feral 1> feral 2> feral 3> feral 4>tank> warr@@Kristocx
FROST DK BABY LETS GOOO
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How will we ever overcome Gunship without a guide?!
Trying to convince him to do a short on Gunship - TBD 😂
It should be the very last, in terms of prio! Good job Joardee on the videos, they are really great!
Hunters entrapment talent that roots all targets in frost trap or snake trap could be good
@@H-D-D No you want to snare beasts, not root them. Rooted targets will attack anyone within melee range.
@@Maxvla Thanks, this is good to keep in mind! I'm currently specced into entrapment since Freya, and didn't think about how being rooted could make them target melee instead. I'll have to get that changed
Simply the best ICC prep videos series!
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Thanks Joardee!
Back in the day, we would have a healer put on righteous fury before the adds came out so they ran for the healer. Placed traps and push backs to keep adds away from pally healer.
Holy smokes, these are easily the best classic guides I have ever seen. Definity subscribing and I can't wait to tell everyone to come watch these videos. Thanks mate.
A tip for healers: Hpalas should prioritize beacon on first 2 RANGED marks since they are the most dangerous, if you have enough mele marks is best for rshaman to start spamming chain heal on mele camp that plus the healing from holy light glyph should be enough to keep those marks alive.
Chaman healers are the key
@@jpswiss_gva Beacons & Hots, and shields ofc!
Wow, I love this video!
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I just need this guys guide now
you can use tailoring nets to stop the adds , but no melee in range or they will die
There is no magic damage in this fight. So mages. AMPLIFY MAGIC on entire raid before start! This will help your healers keeping you up.
Woo! Finally a Lust during execute! Drain soul rejoice
I couldn't play the PTR but I'm fairly certain that dmg from Mark of the Fallen Champion did generate Blood Power in Vanilla WotLK. To the effect that the frequency between the marks would increase exponentially.
It did originally but it was changed in a later patch, which is the reference patch we're playing on.
Hardest part of this fight is the battle agains't the FPS.
We named him Dranosh...
Having 2 Boomys here is fantastic to knockback + daze the adds
4:52 Blosses Blood Bleast Blamage - gottit
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MORE GUIDES JOARDEE!! HURRRYY!
Wow, our raid didn't knew about the mark not giving runic power, and the runic power on the boss is kinda strange on the PTR rn as it updates kinda slowly. ty for the tips, we'll probably get him tonight
Wow, I love this video too!!!
Hey Joardee, i'm guys.
Hey my guy
Hey Joardee I dont get why you wouldnt explain the strat you guys did with your guilds Holy Pries?
And also never actualy show an Holy priest as an viable option in any of your videos, even he seems to be an integral part of your prog runs
Melee just Pewpew!
also iirc if the tank starts with his back right on the wall the beasts spawn more stacked, allowing for more cleave.
It's a trade-off between appeasing the melee so they don't get parried when DBS turns around to cast abilities on the raid, or easier add killing. One strat is friendlier to melee, the other friendlier to ranged.
On our heroic kill melee did not attack beasts at all. Better to leave it for ranged and not risk a melee getting aggro and dying.
due to my poor observation, Does starfall ignore the blood beast's hard skin buff? feel free to reply with a bit of trash talk. I appreciate all replies eitherway XD
But Joardee, where's the Gunship Battle guide? How are we supposed to kill that super hard kill without a detailed guide and composition recommendation?
...yes I am not being serious. Fight is a joke, but also a welcome breather.
@Joardee when do you plan to release the P4 Loot Prio Sheet? :)
Lol, I love that you skipped from Deathwhisper straight to saurfang. Lootship not even worth a guide 😂
Shouldn't need raid cooldowns til about 70% blood power.
Hope they fix the DI strat, but I bet they don't. It's gross and trivializes an otherwise challenging but not ridiculous fight.
they need to fix DI chesee
Olive treat or riot
Most powerful dk?! Doubt it. He doesn't even have any parses...
What type of auto marker are you using for adds? Is that a Weak auras?
Joardee what's the reasoning for the group swaps we kept seeing on this boss?
They moved all marks to the same group for prayer of healing. Strategy is only viable if you are running a holy priest. Disc can PoH also but it's probably better to let them do their normal thing.
can Devotion Mastery minimize the Blood Boil and Blood Nova DMG?
can healers melee for mana return?
Yes you just need to make sure you have at least 8 ranged or other healers standing away.
Gooder
Can you bubble Mark of the fallen champion?
iceblock ?
Gunship guide where?!?
8 ranged dps spots isn't a very realistic amount for the average raid... If you have a wonky comp with like 13 ranged, where do you put them all?
You tell the ranged to stack in groups of two instead of solo spread. In general for pugs it's going to be easier to just tell ranged to stack as two. Else you risk the chance of hitting three or more targets with Blood Nova instead of just two.
@@QPoily that makes sense!
You can put some in melee also, you simply need 8 ranged or healers not standing in melee to avoid novaing the melee pile.
Anyone know the exact rules on blood nova? It looks like he only targets ranged, is there a minimum number of ranged targets you need in order to grantee no melee get targeted? On the PTR we ran a strategy where the marked targets move in for chain heals.
this would be great to know!! trying to find info as well
8 ranged
What was the purpose of shuffling people into different groups through the fight ?
I think He was moving Marked people into a line on raid frames so they are easier to heal.
moving them to shadowpriest group for passive healing
@@erioyo Gotcha, I just quickly noticed at 9:50 that he had them all stacked in a group and thought it was so he didn't have to mouse around to heal them all, didn't notice priest in center of the 4 marks.
It was for the holy priest to spamm his prayer of healing to his group of marks, not for a shadow priest
Does DI remove the mark? Or does the person have to sit in the DI for the rest of the fight?
the last 1
You DI the mark player and they sit there in timeout for having the audacity to be marked
Can you iceblock it away?
why do you want a frost dk when you are using a blood dk tank? doesnt the tank give the same buff as the frost dk
Imp Icy Talons or 3% Dodge is your option as a Blood DK.
For progression you definitely want your blood DK to be specced into maximum survival, not allocating precious points to a raidbuff
How hard would you rank heroic saurfang in terms of difficulty
Easy , is just some Numbers you Need to pass
@@MrDrunkeNN your moms easier she's just some holes you need to fill
dps wise hard, mechanics wise medium. overall medium boss
can mages iceblock the mark?
I believe the mark is kind of like going insane against Yogg. It persists, even after death.
does warrior cleave work on blood beasts?
no they have 95% aoe reduction dmg just like faction champs.
@@JeetGameplays cleave isn't considered AOE, its a multi-target attack. I'm not 100% positive it won't be impacted, but its not AOE
"wtb fps ffs" maybe don't use ElvUI then :P It's one of the worst addons you can use performance wise. Grid2 would be the best swap you can do for fps
Hello dear Jordee,
I find it very disheartening that the Deathbringer Saurfang video came before the amazing epic vehicle 3d chess strategy encounter. I am not able to defeat such incredible strength encounter thus this video adds no real information to me and my elitist guild before we can progress the flying boat experience in the next 5 weeks.
i love how your first solution to deal with the beasts is have a lock gimp their damage instead of maybe, I dunno, a prot warrior shockwave? Timers were always spot for this fight back in the day (to be fair I used bigwigs which has greatly more reliable and accurate timers than DBM) and I don't see it being any different, there is a difference between recommending the class that makes it easier and being against a particular class/spec. Give all the options and let raid teams do what's best for them instead of just copying how 1 team did it. In the 18 years history of youtube video guides all the best guides give examples of all classes that can do particular jobs, be the best Joardee because people can't think for themselves anymore so you need to do it for them.
This is hilariously aggro
why do low IQ people always refer to anger? seems more like a projection of your own issues mate.@@Hydr0flask
People use prot warriors?
prot warrior LMAO
the 5 ppl playing wrath classic gon need this lmao
retail kek
@@harrydiekralle9785 laughs in classic era
5 people? Retail is dead, wotlk classic has multiple servers over 20k
@@galeitiaa i hate retail. I'm talking about classic era popping 😎
@@xarbinchaoticneutral1785cringe
As a dps DK, is gripping the add not an option? It could cause a melee hit. But if timed right, could work?
I'd recommend against it - they hit really hard. You could grip and then rocket away. Your ranged should be able to handle them!
If anything you taunt them, not grip. but you only do that if one is deep into your casters and its not going to cause you to get hit.
even if you don't die, every 2.5k damage they do adds a blood power to boss. if someone is in danger, they should run, not you grip
Wow, I love this video!