Tonya Harding - 1990 U.S. Figure Skating Championships, Ladies' Free Skate
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Salt Lake City, Utah, USA - 1990 United States Figure Skating Championships, Ladies' Free Skate - Tonya Harding wasn't able to skate to her potential due to her suffering from pneumonia. She would drop from 2nd to 7th Place overall.
me with a temperature and a chest infection: stays in bed for 4 days, can't lift arms at all.
Tonya Harding with a temperature and a chest infection: skates slightly slower than normal.
Ikr? If you look at her face towards the end of the program, she was as white as a ghost, I actually fully expected her to pass out, she looks so ill. But she kept going and even managed her jumps (albeit doubles not triples) - most of the other skaters would be carried off on a stretcher after that
Yes. It's amazing how she managed to do her program without a single fall despite the condition she was in. (I probably would also have been laid up in bed with this temperature). You can see literally in her eyes (when she is sitting there after her program) that she had a really high temperature. They are Kind of glazed over (I hope this is the Right phrasing... English isn't my native language)...
Very dangereous it was!
She actually had pneumonia here but you can tell she was in great shape. Had she delivered the type of performance here that she did at Skate America earlier that season Trenary wouldn’t be national or probably even world champ either. Such a shame that really should have been her year.
This was a wonderful performance, you can see how hard it was for her because she was really sick. It hurts to see her like this. She did her best and did well. Real fighter!
Tonya said she would have to on her death bed not to skate. What a trooper.
A jewel. My goodness, even in her fragile moments, she's incredible.
Understanding why anyone else would dare take the ice, knowing she exists, is a complete mystery.
Tonya skating is lovely!
She is absolutely a amazing skater and a queen of high jumps and her strong but soft choreography.
What? There is no choreography at all! She only did some arm moves! She could have skated to every other music - no one would have noticed!
Тоня очень талантливая фигуристка.
Несравненная!!!! Приятно смотреть на ее катание!
I think she was the best skater ever.
What? No choreography at all, slow and simply spins, only 1 tripple jump - every junior skater was better than that!
That's what grit gives you, it makes you unstoppable but it will cramp your body, your soul will progress
I like this program! Should of used it for the olmpics
I think Tonya no bad girl. Problem education mother( money money). Mother spend money for teacher.Tonya responsable attack Kerrigan, but no sense. In Olimpycs 8 place. Without Nancy 7place. Tonya i much respect for you..
Um well if you got the flu and asthma, yes that is an excuse to not perform well that day. That's a fucking excuse to not even go out that day. Sheesh, no mercy in those days, huh.
Anybody know how her compulsories generally went?
Third
At ‘90’s Nationals, that is.
@@schneil01 Never knew that. Speaks to sound foundations.
Great skater but inconsistent.
That must have been be the lowest scores she’s ever gotten
I just read that she did this with a 103 degree temperature.
Penny I heard her temp was so high she skated in a coma and on the way to the emergency room she gave a lady one of her kidneys and was back out on the ice for practice the next morning.
Aspen Robinson lol
It's really impressive (but also a bit insane...she would have belonged into bed, not on the ice) to me this proof AGAINST all those accusations that she faked all her Problems in her Performances. You can see in her face and in her posture that she felt absolutely terrible and she still did some impressive jumps… she really was (and is!) a fighter.
@@gisazurnieden9058 Yeah, but not a true champion. I am seen very few programs Tonya didn't pop and miss several jumps.
@@aspenrobinson8797 This isn't About her perfectness (I guess we'll never see eye to eye About this, anyway) but About her toughness.
So grateful footage exists of Tonya's amazing, breathe taking ... physicality and beyond human ability.
Tonya you were and are an amazing sportsperson. If you hadn't smoked throughout your athsma, just imagine.
If I had been put through the things you survived..,.I would have been a ( very poor) skater on heroin.
Poor Tonya here....😢😢. She was battling the flu and complications with her asthma. Regardless of whether you love or hate her, you have to agree she once was a phenomenal athlete....a strong and athletic jumper. Way ahead of her time with her jumps. She was actually smart to modify her program/jumps here. She would’ve been falling all over the place if she’d attempted all those triples, no doubt. Skating while sick? Gutsy💪
Yes, it was impressive and at the same time I feel sorry for her. I would have been laid up in bed with a 103 Degree temperature and not would not have been able to do anything… and she skated at the U.S. Championship...
I think she did pretty well just to turn up, tbh. I was surprised to hear the commentator even mentioning if she was going to do the triple axel - it should have been obvious that she wasn't going to be doing it that day.
@@chooseyourpoison5105 To it sounds that the commentators (especially the male one) didn't realize how sick she was...
She’s still great
@@iAmMadeOfSoup I haven’t seen her skate or compete in many many years, so my comment was simply based upon that :)
This outfit is beautiful.
I ADORE TONYA HARDING....she has OVERCOME SOOOOOOO MUCH in her life and still does!
💜💜💜!!!
This is the slowest I've ever seen her skate. She was obviously very sick here but had said 'I'd have to be on my deathbed to not skate'
Now that I saw your comment, I was wondering why she wasn't skating the same. Talk about determined :O When I'm ill, I act like I'm dying until it's over 😂
Best skater ever with the worst of luck...
Asthma is a very rough condition to deal with if you do this particular sport. What a fighter.
*A Chain Smoke Bitch on ICE SKATES!!!*
Jane Eyre you realize she smokes . Watch her performances..if her marks are high she is all happy hugging coach if they are lower she then starts coughing on que. Her asthma can't be that bad if she can inhale smokes . I have asthma and even the cold air outside fills my chest and my everything gets tight. I can't imagine putting a cigarette into my lungs for fun. Poor Tonya ...she is her own worst enemy...very sketchy.
Aspen Robinson yes she just might have. To be honest, I never cared for her. I DO admire her strength and jumps though of course.
Haha you're so full of shit.
How about in '94 when she won the gold at nationals?? She was still coughing then! Obviously she should not have been smoking but come on. She was not faking it because of her low scores (which were bullshit.)
@Aspen Robinson: And what About the Original Program at the world Championship 1991? She did VERY well there but was coughing hard afterwards. Not for the camera, that was clearly the real Thing. And regarding Smoking: Yes, it's self-destructive or even some Kind of self-harm to smoke if you have Asthma.
But Trauma (through the abuse by her mother and later Jeff Gillooly) does strange Things to you. Some People e.g. cut themselves, some smoke in spite of Asthma. If someone is (at times, not Always in Tonya's case) their own worst enemy that's Always for a reason. I speak from experience.
despite her flu she didn't have a single fall.
Still better to watch than Nancy’s performance here in my opinion 😂 this is really her skating like Nancy! Slow and not the usual power and passion behind every move
That's what I thought, too ;)
For Tonya it was very slow (she REALLY was very sick here) but for the other Skaters this "Speed" was normal...
Still higher jumps than Nancy.
A lot of skaters today would have been pissed off if they put that level of skate but she looked sad to me. Indeed, her life is so complicated.
stanley052380 . Your comment is great. To say her life was complicated is an... understatement...it's been a horror show. To grow up with the level of abuse she did, takes beyond guts to survive, let alone thrive.
She made a lot of mistakes, but do do we all.
Enough is enough,...I hope she enjoys a joyful life from now on.
Still the greatest ever.
At least she's try her best 😢💙
I don't think those scores were fair. They never were fair. Tonya did remarkably well and is a fantastic skater. She showed initiative to adapt her routine and despite not being her 'potential', it was a very clean technical performance that took things slower to match the speed of many other skaters. I think it was a slower pace, which in fairness matches the tempo of the music, but it maintained a high technical level. Tonya was always robbed the credit she deserved. The commentary of this program was also so terrible. You'd be lucky if they awknowledged 1 good move in the performance.
Eilidh Clague Well maybe the judges had a abusive upbringing, or a bad mother or a abusive husband or they were poor or they had asthma . Don't be hard on the judges marking , they have been through a lot and if they solicited another judges leg to be bashed in I wouldn't blame them one bit.
Aspen Robinson I agree that everyone faces their own battles in life and perhaps Tonya was unlucky that judges tended to take out their bitterness on her, as a result of them coping with a hard life. I highly doubt it though especially when other skaters were rarely under-marked to the same extent as Tonya. Personally I find it hard to watch such bias take place, but if you don't share this opinion then that's cool too.
Eilidh Clague I agree and respect your opinion. I was comparing the judges actions to those of TONYA's that she seems to use anytime something goes wrong. Lol. Skating is very political and not slways fair at all. 💙💙💙
Eilidh Clague I think lots of people saw that movie and decided that the judges were never fair to her-because that is what the movie portrayed. Here, she landed one clean triple, and the entire program was a mess. I think the scores were actually pretty generous.
@@aspenrobinson8797 what the fuck
I was rooted for her, she had so much talent, that seemed to elude get after 1992 season.
7th!? Wow. Probably could have placed higher at this competition, really
She looks really pretty to me...I mean, she actually looks thinner than normal. Almost like she's lost a few lbs. Maybe because of the sickness.
I sure miss Dick Button's commentary. A lot.
Sandy Vale Tara and Johnny are awful.
Sandy Vale The way he got tongue-tied and made no sense at times?😃😃
@@waynehentley4332no, the way he squealed with delight when skaters did their best, and his excellent command of the English language.
I'm trying to find the short program, I noticed she finished 7th on the Jill LP video you have up, and so I like to go back and see what happened :P
Can someone please tell me the name of this music
Theme from one of the Batman movies.
Batman Theme, 1989
I don't like the judges giving her low scores
Well, she missed many jumps in the program! Many.
When you think about all the obstacles she had to overcome if she had not resorted to the horrific incident she would have been a role model for so many young girl. What a damn shame. She will go to her grave denying her involvement but she was involved and resorted to the wrong path. For those that think they were against her if you listen to the commentators they were always encouraging and supporting. She just didn’t perform up to par in her later years. I think considering the abuse and trials she had to deal with it really is quite a miracle that she got as far as she did. Her only real obstacle was herself in the end.
46foryounger Livestreams One of the best comments I have read , she was her own worst enemy.
If she was sometimes her own worst enemy it was BECAUSE of the abuse. Trauma often makes you act irrational and even self-destructive/self-harming/self-sabotaging. Her real enemies were her mother and later her husband. I don't mean that as an excuse for everything that went wrong in her life, but as an Explanation. Yes, it IS quite a Miracle that she got as far and nobody and Nothing can take that away from her. Some commentators were supporting by the way, some were not. It wasn't everything just in her head.
Tonya Harding is got very nice arm lines.... vs Nancy Kerrigan... Nancy Kerrigan got hyper-extended arm lines that's not pretty!
I think that if she was honest and admitted to her role she could use that story to help many young people not take the wrong path.
46foryounger Livestreams yeah but she didn’t know that her ex husband was going to do that by that time she had a restraining order against him
I'm not actually sure what you mean - the FBI (the guys who investigate that sort of thing for a living) did not charge her with anything more than attempting to cover it up. Yes she should have come clean and told the cops everything she knew the minute he was arrested, but considering her husband's propensity for violence, can you really blame her? If there's any lesson for others to take away here: Ladies, if your man ever hits you, get out then and there - your love can't change him and you owe him no loyalty - kick him to the curb and don't look back.
damn, she's was fine.
Do you mean her Performance or the physical state she was in? Her Performance was certainly as fine as it could be under the circumstances, but she was really very sick here (pneumonia and a temperature of 103 Degrees).
I miss Dick Button too. There was always something bout Tanya. Always some drama about something. I have asthma, but I would get so sick of seeing her and her inhaler.
So why don't you go out there and try doing it with asthma, cold or flu then? Or doing whatever it is you do because it probably isn't figure skating.
Pancake 52 Tonya smoked cigarettes regularly as well. She slways coughed more when her marks were low and not so much when her marks were high, because she didn't need something to blame it on or sympathy.
Aspen Robinson good point. Also if she was really dedicated she would have quit the smoking.
You try doing an incredibly difficult sport when you have a clinical breathing problem and not using your inhaler afterwards. What a stupid comment! In many of her skates shes in rag order and yet she doesn't reach for inhaler, she should be!
so if you think it was all Drama and faked: why did she cough so hard then after the short program at the World Championship 1991 when she had delivered a perfect program??
Yes, Smoking in spite of Asthma IS self-destructive or even self-harming, but - i know I repeat myself here in the commentary section, but obviously I'm not he only one here ;) - traumatic experiences (her abusive upbringing) make you often act "strange" and irrational and even self-harming. The pain has to find some outlet. This is not About excuses, but About explanations.