Trash or not, she was the first American woman to ever land a triple axel in competition...she earned a spot in the history books before this even happened. Sad.
I'm not saying she didn't know about it, but for people to say that she was directly behind it is completely unfair and incorrect. Her husband, who was placing money on Tonya's skating career, wanted Nancy out of the way because he knew that if Tonya got to the Olympics it would make him lots of money.
Exactly Tonya....ENOUGH APOLOGIZING!! She lost her career apologizing for something that she was a victim of as well makes her almost seem a party to it I think. It isnt like Nancy would accept it and befriend her again because of it so sometimes leaving things be is the best thing you can do.
No...not a fan just think that there is alot that we dont know about this story. Either way...when will the apologies be enough? They BOTH deserve to move on and live well.
just go and watch the damn film and shut the hell up, all of you. enough with the ignorance.. if nancy kerrigan, her circle, her managers had some kind of disagreement with tonya's film/documentary, we would of heard something by now! you guys don't even know what exactly had went down and who exactly planned the attack or what for but you all are so quick to pick a favorite and cast blame on another. go watch the movie and then come back here to edit or delete your comment in secret which you'll most likely do.
She's making money off the woman she had crippled. She can go to hell. And don't give me that she only heard bullshit. You can tell she is reveling in this. That look on her face pretty much said "Ya I crippled my rival and it's giving me fame and fortune."
@@romahnae youre as stupid as this trailer park trash. The only reason she made this movie is so she wouldnt be a broke joke anymore. She knew about it and then tried to hinder the investigation. Never once apologized. Even if she didnt do it, how hard is it to say, "Im sorry for what my fucked up husband did to you." Shes garbage and so is anyone defending her.
I feel sorry for her, after seeing that story, and the way the media demonized her and distorted things. She was effectively an accused witch in Salem. The media always loves to sensationalize a story. Remember what Sensei Johnny Lawrence says in Cobra-Kai: "The older you get, the more you realize that life's not fair."
Oh please she wasn't the victim, she CREATED this mess and she was in on it, she knew it was gonna happen! And she let it happen! How would you feel about this if it was your daughter she did this too? All the year's of training Nancy put in to doing what she loved, and Tonya thought she had the right to take it away from her! That's beyond wrong!!!
She paid the price. The most essential thing for her which is ice skating got taken away forever. She has the right to state her opinion about the truth, just like the movie.
Ramona Marple She didnt Pay the price! Nancy did. She took everything from her or what could have been. The ultimate price would be to have Nancy banged in the knee with a crowbar every year on the anniversary of what she did to Nancy for the rest of her life.
I watched the movie last night, and obviously it's just a movie so might not be correct, but Tonya had no money she came 4th in the Olympics so she lost sponsorships and was back to working as a waitress. The husband or bodyguard paid some guy to do it. Apparently, the bodyguard also sent Tonya a threatening letter. Why on earth he was a bodyguard, I don't know he really was super stupid in the film to the point of it being a bit of a laugh really.
Angie Lucas it's amazing how much time passes and the things you remember later on..I just think back and all the girls at school carried on about Nancy and Tonya..and the boys talked about OJ and the bronco chase..lol
Didn’t deserve her sentence wtf??? Open a fuckin book she took PLEA DEAL, meaning she pleads guilty to a much lesser crime. She plead guilty to covering it up and lying about it. So she actually did much worse and didn’t want it to come out in court, there was proof she knew about it beforehand and most likely would’ve gotten found guilty for orchestrating the attack.
Just finished I, Tonya a few minutes ago and I've learned a lesson today. That if you're poor, no money and powerless, without influence, everybody will gang up on you and they'll kick you as hard as they can when you're down and get away with it cuz they know you have nothing to fight them with. I feel sorry for Tonya. It won't happen to her or her career will not be ruined say if she's a daughtef of a wealthy politician or someone from a family with a wealthy background. It's just sad and I really feel sorry for her. 😔 Edit: woah! Almost 700 likes! I just revisited this cuz somebody made a rude comment, but hey! Appreciate the likes guys! Happy Holidays!
I don't believe that Nancy Kerrigan was all sweet and everything, that was evident when she was pretty rude to Oksana. Do I feel bad about what happened? Yeah I do. But I don't think Nancy Kerrigan is all innocent as far as being a decent person. And I'm glad Oksana ended up beating her, and won the gold. Well deserved.
I don't think the quality of sweetness or a person's character was at all the criteria why Nancy was the victim of a violence to prevent her from winning at the Nationals and the Olympics. It was a stupid evil plot by Tonya!s team for greed and money. But it backfired and Nancy, despite losing in the Olympics got all the benefits of endorsement. Bad Karma for Tonya.
So that makes it OK for Tonya to have somebody whack her knees? This was serious and had to have been a huge distraction both physically and mentally for Kerrigan to overcome. If it did not happen maybe she would have won the gold that Olympics.
The move is outstanding. Beyond the Tonya/Nancy saga, it was a painful demonstration of the potential consequences of poverty, social ostracization, parental abuse and domestic violence. Given her social circumstances it's actually pretty amazing she ever achieved anything at all in figure skating.
You warm to the girl cos of the film... and she was the only one/first to do the quadruple thingymijig! Ice skating? It's like balancing on a fence and you'll fall onto concrete. Skaters are like ballerinas in that it's a tough accomplishment and doubly so to make it look graceful. Those ballerinas stand on their tip toes! 👍
@@leon4000 there are really only 2-3 people that KNOW what happened, no matter how much you watch or read or think you know to be true. I don’t think it’s just people not wanting to be wrong.
@@audiofeinz5754 she didn’t even do it LMAO. HELLO? She’s was in a ABUSIVE relationship and household. She got painted as a horrible person when she didn’t even do it.
@@troll.0835 Exactly!! I hate how people won’t even give her a chance when she got accused of something she claims she didn’t know about. That is highly un-fair. Honestly, Nancy didn’t deserve what she got, but I’ll admit what Tonya HAD was MUCH worse.
I think the evil stepsister was Nancy on the final skate for the gold medal Nancy got silver and Oksana got the gold, Nancy was acting like a sore loser saying shit about Oksana crying and then came the moment of the medals watch how Nancy gives this ugly side eye glare at Oksana. U don't have to take my word for it check the video on UA-cam. Man Nancy is a hater! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When she said “I get my second chance in life to be loved and be happy” I really felt that. Most people have no idea how hard it is to come out of trauma/chaotic childhood, “make something of yourself”, and not screw it up by repeating the same patterns.
Oh so that gives her a right to do what she has done? I had a rough childhood and I don’t take it out on others! I was beat and molested! So fuck out of here
Tonya is one brave soul. Imagine she took all those blows since she was a child, she could have given up but she stood up and took everything. It makes me cry that no one believed her and everyone comes at her to drag her down.
It’s really brave having your ex husband injure your rival. It’s ridiculous to think she didn’t know, you fell for an interview where she’s trying to reinvent herself as a victim.
She's an easy target. Anyone poor, less-attractive, alone, is an easy target. Kerrigan was like a swan compared to Harding but the latter could do the triple thingy!
@@theastrologistandthephilos9544 I will forever stand by her because I believe she is innocent. She was an amazing figure skater and deserves the best recognition for it.
I am so fricking sick of people calling other people that happen to live in a trailer "TRASH". Those poor people that don't have a home, or live in a shack, would be so happy to live in a trailer. I don't see anyone calling people that rent apartments, apartment hoes, or people that live in big houses, scumbags.
honest to god, she didn’t do anything. what was she going to do? tell the authority’s she somewhat suspected something? she was training for the olympics and scared of her ex husband. give her a break
Scared of the ex husband she went back to several times? Willingly? Come on. Did she have a shitty life? Yes. I feel bad for that 100% but she had an idea of what was going on or what their intentions were. She should have gone to the authorities so that if anything did happen she covered herself by trying to inform them. The cops could have alerted Nancy Kerrigan to a possible attack like they did for Tonya when there was a death threat against her. For me it seems like she thought “hey if they do something it’s good for me and I wasn’t involved so oh well”. That’s how I feel.
@@frechiverse no I don’t believe that in her situation. Yes those situations exist but her husband has always been portrayed as somewhat of an idiot. He hit her but was truly in love with her and didn’t really have the smarts. He was never portrayed as threatening in any way. She just didn’t have any examples of good relationships, that’s why she went back to him. It was either her mom or him. The lesser of two evils I guess. That’s why I DID feel bad for her. I have NEVER, in any documentaries, got the impression she was petrified of him because he was always kind of a dunce. She had the opportunity to go from rags to riches had she surrounded herself with better people. Not every woman is a victim. Sorry. I know that’s the world we are living in today, where all woman are victims and never wrong but I don’t buy into it. Her situation was that she was rough around the edges, understandably, and didn’t know how to better value herself because of her moms shitty parenting. That’s why people will always have a soft spot for her, me as well, but she knew what was going to happen. Do I think she should have been banned for life? Not really. That was a huge blow to her. BUT Nancy Kerrigan is definitely no angel either! She always seemed stuck up.
No, but it wasn't Tonya's fault, so what does it matter if "her people" BRUISED her knee? It wasn't her. End. Of. Story. Losing the career she loved over someone else's actions was punishment enough don't you think??
Poor woman, shes been asked this several times when she didnt even know what was going to happen to nancy. Tonya didnt even do it. It was her body gaurd and boyfriends idea.
That's the reason why she heard them talking about the plot that it was going to get rid of nasty cure again but at the same time Tonya Harding Khalif apologized the whole situation but that was crazy they put her so much misery and pain
@@Gcool243 Her husband was an abusive ass hole! You have no idea the toll abuse and control like that takes on a person, even if she heard them talking about it, she may have been too scared of him at that point to even say anything... not to mention, if I heard someone saying they were going to "take out the competition" I wouldn't necessarily believe they would ACTUALLY do something, that sounds so far fetched and insane you might just think it was a joke...
@@slideshowgurlHe beats your ass and you’re so afraid that you’re a victim yet you don’t believe he’ll beat anyone else’s ass? Either you think he’s abusive or you don’t, but you can’t have it both ways. She knew and it wasn’t even her husband, it was an ex husband that she didn’t even have to be around, he had left and she brought him back; she can’t function without dysfunction.
@@slideshowgurlnot when money’s involved. People kill for that. Nancy has obvious prejudice against Tonya, Tonya harbored negative feelings against Nancy for being what she wasn’t (privileged, the favorite, etc) and Tonya had no support and a difficult life full of abusive people. She can’t control her abusers, but she overheard the plan and told no one. Thinking they were joking or not, you try your best to keep that away. Nothing is too outlandish, we all see that in the world.
If she knew her bodyguard and ex husband were up to something to screw Kerrigan out of the Olympics/skating competition, Tonya should have said something instead of keeping quiet. This is what flushed her career down the toilet. I hear Nancy wasn't perfect either but that doesn't excuse being attacked in that manner.
i get that but at the same time, what was the right thing to do in that situation? her ex husband was abusive. if she tried to go against his wishes he would hurt her. and even if she went to the police, what was she supposed to say? i think my abusive husband might be planning an attack on an unknown victim, but i have no evidence to prove it. tonya wasn’t perfect but she was painted to be an awful person and its not that simple.
I got chills and tears in my eyes when her character in the movie said "it felt like being attacked again. All of YOU (the media and public) were my attackers." After a literal lifetime of being beaten by her mother and husband 😞
Ppl are so corrupt. I feel bad for both girls however I think Tonya was the fall guy. I honestly don’t think she had anything to do with what happened to Nancy.
Part of Tonya Harding's problem is she is the victim of EVERY story she tells. This was a great opportunity to be an adult, accept culpability, and sympathize with the actual victim, but it's always more important to convince others that she's a victim too. If she drank, drove, and killed a little girl on a bicycle, she'd blame the kid. Tonya Harding's one of those people that's her own worst enemy, and I, sincerely don't think she's smart enough to understand why.
This, exactly, hits the nail on the head. She had 30 years to condemn the actions and apologize for having knowledge beforehand but doing nothing. She could have said, "Hey, I knew something was up but didn't think they were serious. I feel really bad for Nancy and hope she knows how sorry I am. " She's got to make herself the victim every time though. Over 3 decades now. She had time, she may not have kneecap'ed Karagan but that doesn't make her a good person.
"I, Tonya" is a great movie. I was somewhat apprehensive about it when I walked into the theater a couple of weeks ago. But I was very pleasantly surprised by the Scorsese-like craftsmanship of the whole thing.
Scott McGillivray I was wondering how old she was. I was going to Google it after I got done reading the comments. I know she was younger than me. Yep it does appear that she has had a rough life.
Kristina Romano...you're exactly right! Bottom Line = She was jealous of Nancy's looks, poise, performance and gracefulness on the ice, and doesn't like any competition! Nancy, to this day looks beautiful as opposed to Harding's fat ass!!
Whether it was Margot Robbie's brilliant portrayal / acting, or not, I found myself really sympathetic towards Tonya after watching this film, I wasn't before it. I feel she was very badly treated throughout her life and failed by almost all including those closest to her. Although she was a fighter, and rolled with the punches, it must of hurt her emotionally. She had a tough life, and despite it she was an amazing ice skater. Brilliant film.
To be straight I went to see this movie just thinking about Tonya and then i came out thinking about LaVona coz that's how brilliant Allison Janney is in this film
Tonya 🖤 was the first American woman to successfully land a triple Axel in competition, and the second woman to do so in history (behind Midori Ito). She is also a two-time Olympian and a two-time Skate America Champion. Nancy Kerrigan was a snotty, Biach! I witnessed her real character when 16 yr, old Oksana Baiul won the gold medal.
Great movie! having had a bit of a "Dickensian" childhood myself, and often felt the sting of classism despite academic achievement, I've always felt deep empathy for Ms. Harding.
Classism? I grew up in the town next to Kerrigan and it is very middle to lower middle class town. Her Dad was a blue collar worker. This whole idea of Kerrigan as a rich elite princess is total BS. Kerrigan's mother was blind - how tough was that as a kid and wanting your Mom to see you on the ice? Harding is just trashy trailer park trash and a horrible person. Kerrigan had WAY more style and grace but our country roots for people are are horrible people.
There's no apology in that face to face, D Leo. Definitely some feeling sorry for herself, yes ("I didn't have supportive parents like you...") - but no apology to Kerrigan.
Even though, if she apologized, do you think Nancy would have forgiven her? I don´t think so. Apology can´t be here because she did it on purpouse and the apology would be fake. Both of them know that.
One of our teachers once told us to take that approach to smooth things over if you didn't feel you were to blame for a situation. I am sure Tonya's Lawyer or her coach wrote the whole statement and told her how to deliver it, can't help but think she does however come over very sincere and sweet at that press conference when she was young.
Nancy's knee was bruised not shattered. There were no fractures and she recovered way to quickly for it to have been "broken". She was able to skate again. Tonya was given a LIFE SENTENCE. All she ever knew was skating, she dropped SCHOOL. And they took it away.
You know what Conspiracy time Nancy Kerrigan ordered the hit on herself and told them not to really injure her so she could pin it on Tonya and get her biggest competition kicked out of figure skating.
@@lyssagames4311 I don't think she would, she may be stuck up and snotty but what happened to her was definitely Jeff's fault. What happened to Tonya was also Jeff's fault. He ruined two people, one temporarily and the other for the rest of her life. He should be in jail.
Most who endure similar sufferings that Tonya has been trough in life end up on the streets or kill themselves. The fact that she is still alive and sane is amazing 👍👏
It was Jeff's fault, not hers. She just took the blame because everyone is so stupid to think she's behind it because she's insecure and competitive. PUT THE BLAME ON THAT MAN, HE'S A MONSTER!
Tonya: I knew it was going to happen, I gave them the details of where she was going to be (phone calls, text messages, bank statements all evidence during her trial that showed she knew and her saying she knew). People born after 2000’s after watching I, Tonya: But she didn’t know it was going to happen, if she did she didn’t say anything because he husband (ex husband) was abusive.” Out of Tonya’s mouth after the initial incident and y’all still don’t believe it. She wasn’t pushed into a corner, she just did what she wanted which makes her a bad person; yes two people can both be bad people but one didn’t commit a violent act (Nancy).
I remember watching Tonya commenting on the show ‘World’s Dumbest’ when I was a kid and I had no idea who she was but I always liked her and thought she was funny. Now that I’ve learned about the scandal and her career and have seen the film, I still like her. I believe her story.
That’s literally exactly how I found her. I would always watch that show, had no idea who she was, but she was always my favorite. Then I heard this Weird Al song where he sang about what happened, then years later saw I, Tonya.
I was on a skating team in Minnesota in Roseville oval center and I was clubbed far worst of the time and money was a discrimination against lynn deatherage who has a disabled conditions may not be able to skate again. It happened I quit it after the fact that it didn't even happened when I was pushed and clubbed right in front of tonya and Nancy both all due to a mild learning curve disorder which I was bullied by others who assumed I'm from a trailer park girl. Untrue. My old house 🏡 was fixed up nicely over the years ago.
I watched the movie and noticed something. Her mother used to heckle her and if it's true, paid people to heckle her. The "death threat" from Jeff to Tonya, when the Oregon police show up when they were together, I wouldn't put past her mother. Logically it makes sense.
OK lets be serious Nancy Kerrigan was not WHACKED on the knee. A police baton was hit to the BACK of her quadricep tendon. That is why she could skate only a few weeks later. She did NOT have a broken kneecap unlike what some people seem to think.
Maybe she made a mistake. But people have done so many worse fucking things and gotten let off with a warning. She wasn’t directly involved and she never deserved to have her pride and joy ripped away from her.
I saw I, Tonya and remember the actual events. We may never know if Tonya had prior knowledge but I have to say I like her. What you see is what you get. She's tough and had to be to overcome her challenges in life. I find her quite refreshing.
Me too!! I think now, 28 years later, we can reflect more objectively on what happened. The press had a great time with this story. Nancy vs Tanya. Good vs evil. I think today most people are much kinder in their opinion of Tonya. I haven't seen I, Tonya yet, but it sounds more like it tells her side of the story. I'm glad she is finally getting to do this.
I really believe that Tonya was more or less an innocent victim in all this I mean she would have to be certifiably insane to throw away all her years of hard work for a poorly thought out plan like that. Who in the world but idiots who don't understand sports would do anything like that?
You can’t be “more or less” innocent of a violent crime. You’re either innocent of being involved in it, or you are not. Tony Harding was involved in the attack on Nancy Kerrigan, and that makes her an absolute inhuman monster.
Heartbreaking to watch Tonya Harding. She might not hv been a very nice person but she hasn't had it easy all her life at all. When most kids were being coddled by their parents, she was pushed and cursed around by her mom. With a psycho mother like the one she had, it was hardly surprising that she got mixed up in all sorts of life troubles.
It kind of bothers me that people change their entire perspective on a movie that portrays a troubling past, as if that justifies needing to win so desperately that you go as far as to hurt your friend. What if that attack was a danger to Nancy's life? And what if that attack actually had to stop her career right on the spot? Would Tonya still feel bad, or would she be at least happy to win? I just think people need to think more for themselves than to choose pity
No matter what people say yes she may have over heard a conversation or two about the attack but no way should this be directly aimed at her and her only she was one of the best female skaters in history and to come from a family like that just shows how fast people can judge no matter where she is from she still counts I feel like that could have been one of the reasons she got the major blame
I can also understand Kerrigans point of view. Being clubbed with a steel crowbar on your leg while in prime condition to compete in the Olympics ? One would likely be pretty unsympathetic as to how much Tonya Harding had to do with what her "group" did. However from the outside looking in, ones sympathies might be more nuanced. I still have admiration for Tonya Harding for coming from what she did to compete at the top of her sport.
i can appreciate tonya for her hard work and her no nonsense attitude but if you attack or orchestrate an attack on another human being for no reason other than jealousy or spite then you're inherently not cool in my book.
Those two idiots did it on their own, I think. I could see the fat guy wanting her, too. I mean, he's hanging out at a skating rink to watch the other guy's wife all the time? Nope. Don't buy that.
On Dancing With The Stars Athletes addition. Tonya HArding acted like she was banned from skating for no reason. She said "they took away the thing she loves most." But she wasn't the victim. Nancy Kerrigan was.
If you think about it, it was the best thing that could have happened to Nancy Kerrigan. She's the most celebrated Olympic silver medalist in history. I mean, who gets to host SNL after winning a Silver?
It is interesting after all these years that Tonya Harding has the opportunity to "cash in" on the victimization of Nancy Kerrigan. It is also a fact that Nobody would be interested in this point and time in watching a movie about Nancy Kerrigan. Let's face it, It wasn't right what happened to her but she had the privilege at the time. Normal jealousy..sure....that doesn't make Tonya a villain. Tonya's husband let her down taking matters into his own hands. He destroyed her.
I was always in love w/ Tonya, . When things went down, I said " Tonya is not responsable for what other people do ", those idiots had a choice. The movie is about a person who has been BULLIED all the way to the judges. Yes, Nancy is our Queen and we love her. I voted for Nancy while on DWTS, she looks great, very happy for you Nancy, lets be happy for Tonya. The movie is about someone who didn't fold. Tonya, you look great.
Tonya was the victim of a rough childhood and some spousal abuse (according to the biopic), which is not ok. But, Nancy was the victim of this incident. Nancy being a poor sport (according to videos and many comments) doesn't justify the actions
I cannot believe people still think she had nothing to do with the attack. Pisses me off how gullible people are. She was the mastermind. The idea that her husband and bodyguard sabotaged her competitor behind her back so that she can go to the Olympics is the most laughable denial ever.
Y’all are ridiculous if you believe her. She could have told someone. She could have dropped it. She heard them planning it according to her. If that’s true, then she’s involved. She sat there quietly & waited for it to happen. Hahahaha society is literally so fucked if we cared to make this woman more money.
I actually felt sorry more for Tonya, but remember hearing about the "attack". But also remember how Nancy reacted to Oksana winning the gold medal too.
JIMMY PATTERSON.... Smoking can cause premature aging, but I didn't know it could cause you to look 20 years older than you are. Maybe it is just from smoking and maybe there are other things she does we don't know about.
my 2 cents and I am old enough to remember the event. Lots of people grow up poor and don't weaponize it as an excuse to stand by while someone gets hurt. If you know something say something. Tonya was punished and rightly so, for standing by and letting it happen. No skated for Nancy, she earned her place herself. Taking out the competition is not something you get to blame on poverty. Sometimes people raise themselves and do much better with having good values than Tonya did. Nancy was targeted because she was better than Tonya or there would be no point in attacking her. That stuff follows you. As someone said below, it is a sad story.
I agree! Unfortunately, these days ppl love to reward bad behaviour and romanticize criminals!! Her skating was her chance to live a better life and rise above her hardships. She was justly punished. I also believe that she deserved to live her life and try to make amends but I’m not going to reason away her involvement in this horrific act. Nancy has to live with the aftermath of that attack the rest of her life. I hope Tonya did not profit off that movie!
I think she’s still just as guilty as then. This is all just as sick as it was then. So much bitterness and crap in their hearts. Why do we still give it airtime?
Regardless what you think. The FBI after investigating this could not come up with any evidence that she knew prior to the attack. She was found guilty of hindering after the fact. Basically she found out days later after the attack . She didn't come forth. If it was you would you Snitch your husband off or throw him under the bus? You're the one who comes across as bitter. Fact FBI didn't have squat. The media painted a dark picture around this kid. She was 21.
Tonya was the underdog from beginning to end. Her skating style was fast and energetic while the others looked like ballerinas on ice. I don't think she knew that there was a plan to attack Nancy in an effort to get her out of the competition. Yet she was blamed for it all and treated unfairly.
@@ShanethefilmmakerThat must be why. I saw another movie made about this, and everyone still hated Tonya, but once Margot Robbie plays as her, the entire world LOVES Tonya. Wtf is wrong with people?!!! I just saw a short clip of the movie and Margot wasn’t even good at acting.
@@isisaphrodite3585 nothing wrong with her acting. You work what you're paid for. Problem was her star power makes all characters she played look sympathetic. Even Harley and Barbie. The script writer and director are to blame.
apparently, can't conceive human sympathy for someone's horrible and sad background without falling into the trap of justifying subsequent abuse. None of them ever reflects on the fact that any abuser, Tonya's mother included, was a victim in the past. The day they'll make a movie on her, will they praise her as well? We must be scared someone makes movies on Hitler, at this rate...
Why is she a bad person? Did she hit Nancy? What evidence do you have that she was a bad person? Nancy, on the other hand, made jokes about a fellow athlete on TV and was involved on a cheating scandal.
I remember I was watching a documentary about Tonya. And I agree with what a childhood friend said about her. She doesn’t take responsibility for her actions. It’s as if she lives in her own little reality.
Trash or not, she was the first American woman to ever land a triple axel in competition...she earned a spot in the history books before this even happened. Sad.
cocaine is a hell of a drug drug
Mrs Libertas I agree ..I remember when she did that triple axel ..now Tonya will forever be tarnished..
Without the ensuing drama she would've been the first female American to land it in Olympics
Mrs Libertas yes!! She was a badass all by herself.
I liked them both and I saw it all unfold. It was crazy!!
Dennis Galabo She competed in the Olympics, moron, she placed 8th.
I'm not saying she didn't know about it, but for people to say that she was directly behind it is completely unfair and incorrect. Her husband, who was placing money on Tonya's skating career, wanted Nancy out of the way because he knew that if Tonya got to the Olympics it would make him lots of money.
If she knew about it before it happened then yeah shes a part of it. She should have spoken out about it
I have seen your joker comment under the movie's trailer.
Yes. Nobody knows what really happened.
@@MrRayBnz they know Tanya knew she paid them to do it
Her handwriting was found on a piece of paper planning the attack. I, Tonya is a piece of revisionist history that people are taking as gospel. 🙄
Exactly Tonya....ENOUGH APOLOGIZING!! She lost her career apologizing for something that she was a victim of as well makes her almost seem a party to it I think. It isnt like Nancy would accept it and befriend her again because of it so sometimes leaving things be is the best thing you can do.
No...not a fan just think that there is alot that we dont know about this story. Either way...when will the apologies be enough? They BOTH deserve to move on and live well.
She's not a victim, give me a break. She's a disgrace. I will not watch this stupid film coming out.
just go and watch the damn film and shut the hell up, all of you. enough with the ignorance.. if nancy kerrigan, her circle, her managers had some kind of disagreement with tonya's film/documentary, we would of heard something by now! you guys don't even know what exactly had went down and who exactly planned the attack or what for but you all are so quick to pick a favorite and cast blame on another. go watch the movie and then come back here to edit or delete your comment in secret which you'll most likely do.
She's making money off the woman she had crippled. She can go to hell. And don't give me that she only heard bullshit. You can tell she is reveling in this. That look on her face pretty much said "Ya I crippled my rival and it's giving me fame and fortune."
@@romahnae youre as stupid as this trailer park trash. The only reason she made this movie is so she wouldnt be a broke joke anymore. She knew about it and then tried to hinder the investigation. Never once apologized. Even if she didnt do it, how hard is it to say, "Im sorry for what my fucked up husband did to you." Shes garbage and so is anyone defending her.
Tonya was the victim.
I feel sorry for her, after seeing that story, and the way the media demonized her and distorted things. She was effectively an accused witch in Salem. The media always loves to sensationalize a story. Remember what Sensei Johnny Lawrence says in Cobra-Kai: "The older you get, the more you realize that life's not fair."
Finally someone with a brain!!
Oh please she wasn't the victim, she CREATED this mess and she was in on it, she knew it was gonna happen! And she let it happen! How would you feel about this if it was your daughter she did this too? All the year's of training Nancy put in to doing what she loved, and Tonya thought she had the right to take it away from her! That's beyond wrong!!!
No. Nancy is the victim.
@@stardustgirl2904 thank you. Someone who gets what I'm thinking.
The media was a big part of her undoing, they made Nancy look like the perfect ice princess and Tonya the opposite. Which wasn’t all true
You are so right
Just like when media chose Justin over Janet, it's just so unfair
What did Nancy do besides get assaulted and tonya knew what was happening and never said anything?
This is why we, as audience, shouldn’t swallow every content we get, and question what media tells us to believe.
She got crowbarred in the fucking knee dude, wtf? Who gives a shit if she was a bitch, it’s assault.
How many times does tonya has to apologize and pay for it for the rest of her life and leave it alone . 1994 is in past focus on 2018.
nancy stevens ... she’s the one doing press about it more than Nancy ever has!
I agree!!
As far as I know she’s never apologized
as long as she can make $$$ on this don't expect it to ever go away .. Can't say as I blame her - She and Nancy have made millions off this
nancy stevens
I don't think she deserves continuous hate, but she doesn't deserve to be celebrated or have a sympathetic movie made about her.
She paid the price. The most essential thing for her which is ice skating got taken away forever. She has the right to state her opinion about the truth, just like the movie.
Finally somebody said it. I was thinking the same thing.
Ramona Marple She didnt Pay the price! Nancy did. She took everything from her or what could have been. The ultimate price would be to have Nancy banged in the knee with a crowbar every year on the anniversary of what she did to Nancy for the rest of her life.
I watched the movie last night, and obviously it's just a movie so might not be correct, but Tonya had no money she came 4th in the Olympics so she lost sponsorships and was back to working as a waitress. The husband or bodyguard paid some guy to do it. Apparently, the bodyguard also sent Tonya a threatening letter. Why on earth he was a bodyguard, I don't know he really was super stupid in the film to the point of it being a bit of a laugh really.
Nancy recovered and came 2nd at the Olympics. She was fine.
Seth M who is to say she couldn’t have been first.
I remember all of that...it was right around the OJ trial...those were the two most iconic news frenzies of my life.
SAME! I was born in 1980, so I was 13 & 14 at those times. :)
Angie Lucas it's amazing how much time passes and the things you remember later on..I just think back and all the girls at school carried on about Nancy and Tonya..and the boys talked about OJ and the bronco chase..lol
born in 81 and yup i remember both.
I too remember this in the early 90s as a young girl! Especially those special edition People/Time magazines in the grocery stores!
I grew up with 9/11 as my news frenzy. I envy the simpler times.
They did her dirty. Periodt she didn’t deserve her sentence
she's guilty
@@erictyson5947 she didn’t do it tho
@@christianmontgomery2666 ya she did
@@erictyson5947 the fuck she didnt
Didn’t deserve her sentence wtf??? Open a fuckin book she took PLEA DEAL, meaning she pleads guilty to a much lesser crime. She plead guilty to covering it up and lying about it. So she actually did much worse and didn’t want it to come out in court, there was proof she knew about it beforehand and most likely would’ve gotten found guilty for orchestrating the attack.
Just finished I, Tonya a few minutes ago and I've learned a lesson today. That if you're poor, no money and powerless, without influence, everybody will gang up on you and they'll kick you as hard as they can when you're down and get away with it cuz they know you have nothing to fight them with. I feel sorry for Tonya. It won't happen to her or her career will not be ruined say if she's a daughtef of a wealthy politician or someone from a family with a wealthy background. It's just sad and I really feel sorry for her. 😔
Edit: woah! Almost 700 likes! I just revisited this cuz somebody made a rude comment, but hey! Appreciate the likes guys! Happy Holidays!
History of the world. Tonya was a poor girl in a rich woman’s sport.
She's a professional victim.
You know that movie wasn’t a documentary, right?
bruh thats so true omg
i just finished watching it too
I don't believe that Nancy Kerrigan was all sweet and everything, that was evident when she was pretty rude to Oksana. Do I feel bad about what happened? Yeah I do. But I don't think Nancy Kerrigan is all innocent as far as being a decent person. And I'm glad Oksana ended up beating her, and won the gold. Well deserved.
I don't think the quality of sweetness or a person's character was at all the criteria why Nancy was the victim of a violence to prevent her from winning at the Nationals and the Olympics. It was a stupid evil plot by Tonya!s team for greed and money. But it backfired and Nancy, despite losing in the Olympics got all the benefits of endorsement. Bad Karma for Tonya.
Why does it matter whether Nancy was sweet or not? That’s not the point. This is about Tonya being complicit in an assault
So that makes it OK for Tonya to have somebody whack her knees? This was serious and had to have been a huge distraction both physically and mentally for Kerrigan to overcome. If it did not happen maybe she would have won the gold that Olympics.
jennifer wellman I'm from America,
I'm glad oksana won it too. Nancy is a evil witch like Tonya, as Nancy keeps using the victims card.
Jennifer wellman....don't you think you should do something about your face?? SMH!
The move is outstanding. Beyond the Tonya/Nancy saga, it was a painful demonstration of the potential consequences of poverty, social ostracization, parental abuse and domestic violence. Given her social circumstances it's actually pretty amazing she ever achieved anything at all in figure skating.
The 'movie' was BORING.....if you could call it a movie! SMH! Turned it off after 10 minutes!!
Yeah right. Top bad we don’t feel that compassion for ALL groups of people. Hypocrites.
Agreed
You warm to the girl cos of the film... and she was the only one/first to do the quadruple thingymijig!
Ice skating? It's like balancing on a fence and you'll fall onto concrete. Skaters are like ballerinas in that it's a tough accomplishment and doubly so to make it look graceful. Those ballerinas stand on their tip toes! 👍
@@tonisumblin2719wtf do you mean? You idiot
She worked so hard for her life and this is how the world treats her.
She shouldn't have sabotaged someone else to win
She made that bed
@@audiofeinz5754 I wish people could think outside their boxes about this. I guess people hate being challenged with what little they know.
@@leon4000 there are really only 2-3 people that KNOW what happened, no matter how much you watch or read or think you know to be true. I don’t think it’s just people not wanting to be wrong.
@@audiofeinz5754 she didn’t even do it LMAO. HELLO? She’s was in a ABUSIVE relationship and household. She got painted as a horrible person when she didn’t even do it.
Talk that if your knee broke by her ....🤣🤣🤣
"Evil Wicked Step Sister" oh hell no. That's just rude. 😡
it's the other way around. Tonya is the abused princess and that bitch is just some spoiled brat.
Nancy seems like a snobby bitch.
Ikr, nancy such a fuckin mama bitch that make me cringy
@@troll.0835 Exactly!! I hate how people won’t even give her a chance when she got accused of something she claims she didn’t know about. That is highly un-fair. Honestly, Nancy didn’t deserve what she got, but I’ll admit what Tonya HAD was MUCH worse.
I think the evil stepsister was Nancy on the final skate for the gold medal Nancy got silver and Oksana got the gold, Nancy was acting like a sore loser saying shit about Oksana crying and then came the moment of the medals watch how Nancy gives this ugly side eye glare at Oksana. U don't have to take my word for it check the video on UA-cam. Man Nancy is a hater! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When she said “I get my second chance in life to be loved and be happy” I really felt that.
Most people have no idea how hard it is to come out of trauma/chaotic childhood, “make something of yourself”, and not screw it up by repeating the same patterns.
Oh so that gives her a right to do what she has done? I had a rough childhood and I don’t take it out on others! I was beat and molested! So fuck out of here
You know who didn't get a second chance? Nancy
Who fucking cares Tonya sucks
True.
Tonya is one brave soul. Imagine she took all those blows since she was a child, she could have given up but she stood up and took everything. It makes me cry that no one believed her and everyone comes at her to drag her down.
It’s really brave having your ex husband injure your rival. It’s ridiculous to think she didn’t know, you fell for an interview where she’s trying to reinvent herself as a victim.
@Lildickgirl really?
She's an easy target. Anyone poor, less-attractive, alone, is an easy target. Kerrigan was like a swan compared to Harding but the latter could do the triple thingy!
@@theastrologistandthephilos9544 I will forever stand by her because I believe she is innocent. She was an amazing figure skater and deserves the best recognition for it.
@@sandrasorto8375 Women...always assuming other women can do no wrong.
I thing this whole drama can summed up as in 1:35 - Nancy wasnt all good, Tonya wasnt all bad
*Tonya was a CriminaL!!!! Nancy did Everything Honest!!!!*
“She wants forgiveness? She wants to see me? She wants to make amends and be apart of the family? HELL NO” lol go off Tonya!!
Oh brother….🙄
Still didn’t apologize for being apart of it….
@@alexisn97cause she wasnt… 🙄
@@alexisn97she wasnt
@@alexisn97she’s talking about her mother not Nancy!
“We were never trailer trash,” Tonya’s mother said. “We had a beautiful new trailer.” LOL
Haha that explains it 😂
I am so fricking sick of people calling other people that happen to live in a trailer "TRASH". Those poor people that don't have a home, or live in a shack, would be so happy to live in a trailer.
I don't see anyone calling people that rent apartments, apartment hoes, or people that live in big houses, scumbags.
Huh, where I come from trailers aren't cheap - we're talking 6 figures for a basic model!!
@@wk1810 Just wait a few years, it'll be worth 0.
@@wk1810 let’s not play stupid we’re talking about living in a cheap ass trailer park obviously is doesn’t take 6 figures to do that
@@wk1810 Wow! Not paying 6 figures for cardboard and tin.
It’s not because they are poor financially, it’s just the attitude and the disrespect they have for other human beings! That’s how I see it!
honest to god, she didn’t do anything. what was she going to do? tell the authority’s she somewhat suspected something? she was training for the olympics and scared of her ex husband. give her a break
Scared of the ex husband she went back to several times? Willingly? Come on. Did she have a shitty life? Yes. I feel bad for that 100% but she had an idea of what was going on or what their intentions were. She should have gone to the authorities so that if anything did happen she covered herself by trying to inform them. The cops could have alerted Nancy Kerrigan to a possible attack like they did for Tonya when there was a death threat against her. For me it seems like she thought “hey if they do something it’s good for me and I wasn’t involved so oh well”. That’s how I feel.
@@frechiverse no I don’t believe that in her situation. Yes those situations exist but her husband has always been portrayed as somewhat of an idiot. He hit her but was truly in love with her and didn’t really have the smarts. He was never portrayed as threatening in any way. She just didn’t have any examples of good relationships, that’s why she went back to him. It was either her mom or him. The lesser of two evils I guess. That’s why I DID feel bad for her. I have NEVER, in any documentaries, got the impression she was petrified of him because he was always kind of a dunce. She had the opportunity to go from rags to riches had she surrounded herself with better people. Not every woman is a victim. Sorry. I know that’s the world we are living in today, where all woman are victims and never wrong but I don’t buy into it. Her situation was that she was rough around the edges, understandably, and didn’t know how to better value herself because of her moms shitty parenting. That’s why people will always have a soft spot for her, me as well, but she knew what was going to happen. Do I think she should have been banned for life? Not really. That was a huge blow to her. BUT Nancy Kerrigan is definitely no angel either! She always seemed stuck up.
Don’t believe in everything you see in movies 🤣
Yeah, she should have given Nancy the same break she would have liked. Heads up, my family's looking to whack you..
@@ceteraurban I thought the committee told her they didn’t want her getting a divorce cuz it would look bad
Nancy wasn’t all GOOD & Tonya wasn’t all BAD ... but at the end of the day your people went to extreme measures to take Nancy out!
Who is Tony?
BeaCG ... it’s fixed lol
Michael Querol I always thought that Nancy Kerrigan was a bit of faking kind of arrogant
So Nancy deserved to have her knee bashed in?
No, but it wasn't Tonya's fault, so what does it matter if "her people" BRUISED her knee? It wasn't her. End. Of. Story. Losing the career she loved over someone else's actions was punishment enough don't you think??
This is Jeff’s fault not her’s.
That's the reason why she filed for divorce because her ex-husband Jeff and his sidekick started the whole thing
Finally somebody with sense. I’m so shocked that everybody is giving Tonya the heat & Jeff is walking unscathed
@@saigie3908 after all these years with Nancy Kerrigan went through I know it's hard
Don't forget her money she was just as greedy as Jeff and to them Tonya was money, money, money.
Poor woman, shes been asked this several times when she didnt even know what was going to happen to nancy. Tonya didnt even do it. It was her body gaurd and boyfriends idea.
She legit said she heard them talking about it. She knew
That's the reason why she heard them talking about the plot that it was going to get rid of nasty cure again but at the same time Tonya Harding Khalif apologized the whole situation but that was crazy they put her so much misery and pain
@@Gcool243 Her husband was an abusive ass hole! You have no idea the toll abuse and control like that takes on a person, even if she heard them talking about it, she may have been too scared of him at that point to even say anything... not to mention, if I heard someone saying they were going to "take out the competition" I wouldn't necessarily believe they would ACTUALLY do something, that sounds so far fetched and insane you might just think it was a joke...
@@slideshowgurlHe beats your ass and you’re so afraid that you’re a victim yet you don’t believe he’ll beat anyone else’s ass? Either you think he’s abusive or you don’t, but you can’t have it both ways. She knew and it wasn’t even her husband, it was an ex husband that she didn’t even have to be around, he had left and she brought him back; she can’t function without dysfunction.
@@slideshowgurlnot when money’s involved. People kill for that. Nancy has obvious prejudice against Tonya, Tonya harbored negative feelings against Nancy for being what she wasn’t (privileged, the favorite, etc) and Tonya had no support and a difficult life full of abusive people. She can’t control her abusers, but she overheard the plan and told no one. Thinking they were joking or not, you try your best to keep that away. Nothing is too outlandish, we all see that in the world.
If she knew her bodyguard and ex husband were up to something to screw Kerrigan out of the Olympics/skating competition, Tonya should have said something instead of keeping quiet. This is what flushed her career down the toilet. I hear Nancy wasn't perfect either but that doesn't excuse being attacked in that manner.
i get that but at the same time, what was the right thing to do in that situation? her ex husband was abusive. if she tried to go against his wishes he would hurt her. and even if she went to the police, what was she supposed to say? i think my abusive husband might be planning an attack on an unknown victim, but i have no evidence to prove it. tonya wasn’t perfect but she was painted to be an awful person and its not that simple.
Maybe she thought they were just a voucher of dumbasses talking shit. She probably didn't expect them to actually *do* anything.
I got chills and tears in my eyes when her character in the movie said "it felt like being attacked again. All of YOU (the media and public) were my attackers." After a literal lifetime of being beaten by her mother and husband 😞
Tonya was and still is a BADASS!!!!
Yikes
Robert Johnson and ugly
Hari Bala
Agreed, she plays the victim role.
EviLLivE Gaming
Yes, totally agree. By the way the crowbar attack on Nancy Kerrigan, its a disgrace. Have no sympathy with that.
True
Tonya and Nancy are the victim.
The victim of People's opinion 😭💀
Ppl are so corrupt. I feel bad for both girls however I think Tonya was the fall guy. I honestly don’t think she had anything to do with what happened to Nancy.
Part of Tonya Harding's problem is she is the victim of EVERY story she tells. This was a great opportunity to be an adult, accept culpability, and sympathize with the actual victim, but it's always more important to convince others that she's a victim too. If she drank, drove, and killed a little girl on a bicycle, she'd blame the kid.
Tonya Harding's one of those people that's her own worst enemy, and I, sincerely don't think she's smart enough to understand why.
This, exactly, hits the nail on the head. She had 30 years to condemn the actions and apologize for having knowledge beforehand but doing nothing.
She could have said, "Hey, I knew something was up but didn't think they were serious. I feel really bad for Nancy and hope she knows how sorry I am. "
She's got to make herself the victim every time though. Over 3 decades now. She had time, she may not have kneecap'ed Karagan but that doesn't make her a good person.
I sincerely don't believe in or agree with you. 0. If she ran over a child "sober" she would accept responsibility.
@@pete5819😂😂😂trash
I agree. The worst part about it is you have people defending her.
It seems to work though. Look at all the fools in these comments who believe her.
"I, Tonya" is a great movie. I was somewhat apprehensive about it when I walked into the theater a couple of weeks ago. But I was very pleasantly surprised by the Scorsese-like craftsmanship of the whole thing.
I am not into black comedy but it had it's moments.
agree. I liked it a lot from go, when the mother says, "You know I got better things to effing do..." I just cracked up. So incongruous. lol
No, they were all white .
Tonya is only 47 years old??? OMG that's a rough looking life.
Scott McGillivray I was wondering how old she was. I was going to Google it after I got done reading the comments. I know she was younger than me. Yep it does appear that she has had a rough life.
Donna Lynn Chain smoking will do that.
Brian B yep that explains it
I don't think she looks bad for someone pushing 50. We all age differently, at least she's not full of botox and fillers.
Kristina Romano...you're exactly right! Bottom Line = She was jealous of Nancy's looks, poise, performance and gracefulness on the ice, and doesn't like any competition! Nancy, to this day looks beautiful as opposed to Harding's fat ass!!
i saw the movie tonya,it was crazy how that girl grew up,Im surprized how she skated at all
Whether it was Margot Robbie's brilliant portrayal / acting, or not, I found myself really sympathetic towards Tonya after watching this film, I wasn't before it. I feel she was very badly treated throughout her life and failed by almost all including those closest to her. Although she was a fighter, and rolled with the punches, it must of hurt her emotionally. She had a tough life, and despite it she was an amazing ice skater. Brilliant film.
Saw it 3x.
But it’s not the truth. It’s glorifying a criminal. Just like how dahmer and anna delvey got sensationalised
*Cuz you are an Easy to BrainWash Person!!!!*
When I heard about the attack, I immediately felt that something was off, it was just too obvious and too indirect for it to be her.
To be straight I went to see this movie just thinking about Tonya and then i came out thinking about LaVona coz that's how brilliant Allison Janney is in this film
She was fantastic!
Tanya is a sociopath with no sympathy for anyone except herself!
Tonya.
I believe in you.
You deserve a good life and leave aside those all problems.
You are the best.
Tonya 🖤 was the first American woman to successfully land a triple Axel in competition, and the second woman to do so in history (behind Midori Ito). She is also a two-time Olympian and a two-time Skate America Champion.
Nancy Kerrigan was a snotty, Biach! I witnessed her real character when 16 yr, old Oksana Baiul won the gold medal.
It doesn't mean that Nancy deserved to be attacked. Both women were victim.
you write like chris-chan
Nancy von Kehrigen had her butt whipped on the Ice by Oksana Bayul!😊
*Nancy a SnotyBee itch!!!! Tonya a CriminaL!!!!*
The cast of the I,Tonya movie was astounding. Not only did the actors undertand the asignment. They also looked like em!
When tonya said "enough apologizing." I was like YES QUEEN!
Nah fuck this bitch
Great movie! having had a bit of a "Dickensian" childhood myself, and often felt the sting of classism despite academic achievement, I've always felt deep empathy for Ms. Harding.
WildwoodClaire1 right behind ya 👍🏻👌🏻
It's sad that people are judged on background but not the fault of those who have background that they do. Really sad story.
Classism? I grew up in the town next to Kerrigan and it is very middle to lower middle class town. Her Dad was a blue collar worker. This whole idea of Kerrigan as a rich elite princess is total BS. Kerrigan's mother was blind - how tough was that as a kid and wanting your Mom to see you on the ice? Harding is just trashy trailer park trash and a horrible person. Kerrigan had WAY more style and grace but our country roots for people are are horrible people.
Tonya was judged simply on the fact that she was a horrible person.
Nancy's brother murdered his dad, didn't he?
She have the passion and great talent! But sadly, she surrounded by toxic people.
Her husband was no prize. I could believe that he planned the attack without letting Tonya in on it.
*& SHE LOVED TOXIC PEOPLE CUZ Tonya was Queen of Toxic!!!!*
Nancy said she never did. She had heard her saying the she was sorry it happened to her in news conference. Never to her face.
There's no apology in that face to face, D Leo. Definitely some feeling sorry for herself, yes ("I didn't have supportive parents like you...") - but no apology to Kerrigan.
Even though, if she apologized, do you think Nancy would have forgiven her? I don´t think so. Apology can´t be here because she did it on purpouse and the apology would be fake. Both of them know that.
Audrey Saying you are sorry it happened is not an admission that you had anything to do with it. Any lawyer will tell you that. As I`m sure one did.
Lets say for one minute that Tonya had minimal involvement in all of it, do you expect her to say sorry for something she had not done.
One of our teachers once told us to take that approach to smooth things over if you didn't feel you were to blame for a situation. I am sure Tonya's Lawyer or her coach wrote the whole statement and told her how to deliver it, can't help but think she does however come over very sincere and sweet at that press conference when she was young.
Nancy's knee was bruised not shattered. There were no fractures and she recovered way to quickly for it to have been "broken". She was able to skate again. Tonya was given a LIFE SENTENCE. All she ever knew was skating, she dropped SCHOOL. And they took it away.
You know what
Conspiracy time
Nancy Kerrigan ordered the hit on herself and told them not to really injure her so she could pin it on Tonya and get her biggest competition kicked out of figure skating.
@@lyssagames4311 I don't think she would, she may be stuck up and snotty but what happened to her was definitely Jeff's fault. What happened to Tonya was also Jeff's fault. He ruined two people, one temporarily and the other for the rest of her life. He should be in jail.
Oh please.. 100% complicit
Most who endure similar sufferings that Tonya has been trough in life end up on the streets or kill themselves.
The fact that she is still alive and sane is amazing 👍👏
What an evil woman. She never apologized directly to Nancy. She’s only cried about how it effected her.
They never should have put Tonya and Nancy against each other.
It was Jeff's fault, not hers. She just took the blame because everyone is so stupid to think she's behind it because she's insecure and competitive. PUT THE BLAME ON THAT MAN, HE'S A MONSTER!
Tonya: I knew it was going to happen, I gave them the details of where she was going to be (phone calls, text messages, bank statements all evidence during her trial that showed she knew and her saying she knew).
People born after 2000’s after watching I, Tonya: But she didn’t know it was going to happen, if she did she didn’t say anything because he husband (ex husband) was abusive.”
Out of Tonya’s mouth after the initial incident and y’all still don’t believe it. She wasn’t pushed into a corner, she just did what she wanted which makes her a bad person; yes two people can both be bad people but one didn’t commit a violent act (Nancy).
I remember watching Tonya commenting on the show ‘World’s Dumbest’ when I was a kid and I had no idea who she was but I always liked her and thought she was funny. Now that I’ve learned about the scandal and her career and have seen the film, I still like her. I believe her story.
That’s literally exactly how I found her. I would always watch that show, had no idea who she was, but she was always my favorite. Then I heard this Weird Al song where he sang about what happened, then years later saw I, Tonya.
I was on a skating team in Minnesota in Roseville oval center and I was clubbed far worst of the time and money was a discrimination against lynn deatherage who has a disabled conditions may not be able to skate again. It happened I quit it after the fact that it didn't even happened when I was pushed and clubbed right in front of tonya and Nancy both all due to a mild learning curve disorder which I was bullied by others who assumed I'm from a trailer park girl. Untrue. My old house 🏡 was fixed up nicely over the years ago.
I wish she were more known for her skills than from what happened
Tonya hardings real life story is one of the most American stories ever told.
where is solid proof? yes some may find this sketchy, but she DOESNT deserve it. we don’t even know the truth or the fact.
I'm on Nancy Kerrigan's side in this, but I enjoyed the movie "I, Tonya" coz it was a good watch.
Me and my girls always liked Tonya better and she was definitely a better skater. Too bad her bf didn't believe in her ability.
crazycatlady1313 Its not her boyfriends fault she's a piece of shit.
EsotericOccultist you do realize he went to jail right . He was the scumbag.
Slick Wally ouch that hurt 😂😂😂😂😂😂
i think the mother didnt believe in tonya, and that rubbed off on jeff.
I watched the movie and noticed something. Her mother used to heckle her and if it's true, paid people to heckle her. The "death threat" from Jeff to Tonya, when the Oregon police show up when they were together, I wouldn't put past her mother. Logically it makes sense.
OK lets be serious Nancy Kerrigan was not WHACKED on the knee. A police baton was hit to the BACK of her quadricep tendon. That is why she could skate only a few weeks later. She did NOT have a broken kneecap unlike what some people seem to think.
Coitada ! Da pra vê no olhar dela o quanto sofreu nessa vida ! 😢 tomara que hoje ela esteja bem 🙏🏼
Maybe she made a mistake. But people have done so many worse fucking things and gotten let off with a warning. She wasn’t directly involved and she never deserved to have her pride and joy ripped away from her.
I saw I, Tonya and remember the actual events. We may never know if Tonya had prior knowledge but I have to say I like her. What you see is what you get. She's tough and had to be to overcome her challenges in life. I find her quite refreshing.
Me too!! I think now, 28 years later, we can reflect more objectively on what happened. The press had a great time with this story. Nancy vs Tanya. Good vs evil. I think today most people are much kinder in their opinion of Tonya. I haven't seen I, Tonya yet, but it sounds more like it tells her side of the story. I'm glad she is finally getting to do this.
@@peggypeggy4137 well I mean getting your ex husband to injure your rival is a pretty evil thing to do
I really believe that Tonya was more or less an innocent victim in all this I mean she would have to be certifiably insane to throw away all her years of hard work for a poorly thought out plan like that. Who in the world but idiots who don't understand sports would do anything like that?
You can’t be “more or less” innocent of a violent crime. You’re either innocent of being involved in it, or you are not. Tony Harding was involved in the attack on Nancy Kerrigan, and that makes her an absolute inhuman monster.
Heartbreaking to watch Tonya Harding. She might not hv been a very nice person but she hasn't had it easy all her life at all. When most kids were being coddled by their parents, she was pushed and cursed around by her mom. With a psycho mother like the one she had, it was hardly surprising that she got mixed up in all sorts of life troubles.
Thing is, she was an amazing person. She was down to earth and real. She had no part in the attack but took all the blame. It’s really depressing
*Tonya have no reason to hurt Nancy because she is better than Nancy*
It kind of bothers me that people change their entire perspective on a movie that portrays a troubling past, as if that justifies needing to win so desperately that you go as far as to hurt your friend. What if that attack was a danger to Nancy's life? And what if that attack actually had to stop her career right on the spot? Would Tonya still feel bad, or would she be at least happy to win? I just think people need to think more for themselves than to choose pity
No matter what people say yes she may have over heard a conversation or two about the attack but no way should this be directly aimed at her and her only she was one of the best female skaters in history and to come from a family like that just shows how fast people can judge no matter where she is from she still counts I feel like that could have been one of the reasons she got the major blame
no she wasnt, her 3a was sloppy
@@Dalatiidaeyou can’t even spell calling others sloppy lol
Tanya Harding is my HERO!
mine too
I wanna skate like her
Shes the most feisty, hilarious role model in skating I've ever seen. Shes amazing.
Where can I watch that
I feel really bad for her.. Every child should be raised in love and careness. There are no any other ways of raising a child, that's what i think.
It's more the media than tonya
I will always support tonya harding
Justice for Tonya
Im so sorry for what you endured Tonya.
If Tonya knew about the attack before it happened....she could have stopped it.
I can also understand Kerrigans point of view. Being clubbed with a steel crowbar on your leg while in prime condition to compete in the Olympics ? One would likely be pretty unsympathetic as to how much Tonya Harding had to do with what her "group" did. However from the outside looking in, ones sympathies might be more nuanced. I still have admiration for Tonya Harding for coming from what she did to compete at the top of her sport.
I don't believe that she didn't know about it.
i can appreciate tonya for her hard work and her no nonsense attitude but if you attack or orchestrate an attack on another human being for no reason other than jealousy or spite then you're inherently not cool in my book.
Those two idiots did it on their own, I think. I could see the fat guy wanting her, too. I mean, he's hanging out at a skating rink to watch the other guy's wife all the time?
Nope. Don't buy that.
On Dancing With The Stars Athletes addition. Tonya HArding acted like she was banned from skating for no reason. She said "they took away the thing she loves most." But she wasn't the victim. Nancy Kerrigan was.
If you think about it, it was the best thing that could have happened to Nancy Kerrigan. She's the most celebrated Olympic silver medalist in history. I mean, who gets to host SNL after winning a Silver?
It is interesting after all these years that Tonya Harding has the opportunity to "cash in" on the victimization of Nancy Kerrigan. It is also a fact that Nobody would be interested in this point and time in watching a movie about Nancy Kerrigan. Let's face it, It wasn't right what happened to her but she had the privilege at the time. Normal jealousy..sure....that doesn't make Tonya a villain. Tonya's husband let her down taking matters into his own hands. He destroyed her.
The husband was definitely a bad player.
I was always in love w/ Tonya, . When things went down, I said " Tonya is not responsable for what other people do ", those idiots had a choice. The movie is about a person who has been BULLIED all the way to the judges. Yes, Nancy is our Queen and we love her. I voted for Nancy while on DWTS, she looks great, very happy for you Nancy, lets be happy for Tonya. The movie is about someone who didn't fold. Tonya, you look great.
Red flag when Tonya said that she heard them talking about doing something and then she asked what the hell they are talking about? That pause? Hmmm!
What’s the music at 1:15?
People: Nancy, Tonya, Nancy, Tonya, Nancy, Tonya
Me: YA 👏🏽MA 👏🏽GU 👏🏽CHI
Oksana!
What about an interview with Tonya’s husband? Interviewed separately and simultaneously. They would probably have their own versions of the truth.
Tonya was the victim of a rough childhood and some spousal abuse (according to the biopic), which is not ok. But, Nancy was the victim of this incident. Nancy being a poor sport (according to videos and many comments) doesn't justify the actions
I cannot believe people still think she had nothing to do with the attack. Pisses me off how gullible people are. She was the mastermind. The idea that her husband and bodyguard sabotaged her competitor behind her back so that she can go to the Olympics is the most laughable denial ever.
Y’all are ridiculous if you believe her. She could have told someone. She could have dropped it. She heard them planning it according to her. If that’s true, then she’s involved. She sat there quietly & waited for it to happen. Hahahaha society is literally so fucked if we cared to make this woman more money.
I actually felt sorry more for Tonya, but remember hearing about the "attack". But also remember how Nancy reacted to Oksana winning the gold medal too.
This lady is only 47 but looks 65.
Kentucky Wildcat she hasn't aged well at all. The years have certainly not been a friend to her at all. I think she is a heavy smoker.
JIMMY PATTERSON.... Smoking can cause premature aging, but I didn't know it could cause you to look 20 years older than you are. Maybe it is just from smoking and maybe there are other things she does we don't know about.
I like your hair pulled back like that, you look young.
I'm 23 mom.
@@scruffyp9480 yess
my 2 cents and I am old enough to remember the event. Lots of people grow up poor and don't weaponize it as an excuse to stand by while someone gets hurt. If you know something say something. Tonya was punished and rightly so, for standing by and letting it happen. No skated for Nancy, she earned her place herself. Taking out the competition is not something you get to blame on poverty. Sometimes people raise themselves and do much better with having good values than Tonya did. Nancy was targeted because she was better than Tonya or there would be no point in attacking her. That stuff follows you. As someone said below, it is a sad story.
I agree! Unfortunately, these days ppl love to reward bad behaviour and romanticize criminals!! Her skating was her chance to live a better life and rise above her hardships. She was justly punished. I also believe that she deserved to live her life and try to make amends but I’m not going to reason away her involvement in this horrific act. Nancy has to live with the aftermath of that attack the rest of her life. I hope Tonya did not profit off that movie!
Some people are very easy to read and she's one of them...for the people that do pick up on this, know what I'm talking about.
she is famous and got many chances from her wrong doing . The real victim here is not her.
*the real Tonya Harding is actually more intense than the movie. I always thought movies exaggerate things, but this is different*
one of the most iconic dramas in my life
I think she’s still just as guilty as then. This is all just as sick as it was then. So much bitterness and crap in their hearts. Why do we still give it airtime?
Regardless what you think. The FBI after investigating this could not come up with any evidence that she knew prior to the attack. She was found guilty of hindering after the fact. Basically she found out days later after the attack . She didn't come forth. If it was you would you Snitch your husband off or throw him under the bus?
You're the one who comes across as bitter. Fact FBI didn't have squat. The media painted a dark picture around this kid. She was 21.
Tonya was the underdog from beginning to end. Her skating style was fast and energetic while the others looked like ballerinas on ice. I don't think she knew that there was a plan to attack Nancy in an effort to get her out of the competition. Yet she was blamed for it all and treated unfairly.
Why is a bad person suddenly praised to the sky? The media is a powerful tool indeed.
Because Margot Robbie played her and now suddenly she's hot to the crowd.
@@ShanethefilmmakerThat must be why. I saw another movie made about this, and everyone still hated Tonya, but once Margot Robbie plays as her, the entire world LOVES Tonya. Wtf is wrong with people?!!! I just saw a short clip of the movie and Margot wasn’t even good at acting.
@@isisaphrodite3585 nothing wrong with her acting. You work what you're paid for. Problem was her star power makes all characters she played look sympathetic. Even Harley and Barbie. The script writer and director are to blame.
apparently, can't conceive human sympathy for someone's horrible and sad background without falling into the trap of justifying subsequent abuse. None of them ever reflects on the fact that any abuser, Tonya's mother included, was a victim in the past. The day they'll make a movie on her, will they praise her as well? We must be scared someone makes movies on Hitler, at this rate...
Why is she a bad person? Did she hit Nancy? What evidence do you have that she was a bad person? Nancy, on the other hand, made jokes about a fellow athlete on TV and was involved on a cheating scandal.
I remember I was watching a documentary about Tonya. And I agree with what a childhood friend said about her. She doesn’t take responsibility for her actions. It’s as if she lives in her own little reality.