Why Boston Dynamics Should Be Worried About The Competition || They Need A Steve Jobs ASAP
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Boston Dynamics is my favorite robotics company but they need to shift focus from research to business in my opinion.
Should they worry about the competition? - Наука та технологія
It's easy to do things at a cut price when you don't do any of the R&D.
the problem with that statement is that they do the r&d themselves
it's not like they bought a Spot and just made a knockoff, they engineered these on their own
sure they look the same, but that's because the thing they're basing them on is the same
Aech Dee not even comparable, BD probably spent hundreds of millions more than this relatively unknown Chinese company. Obviously it’s not like anyone can just buy one and copy it, they will need an efficient team and structure, but if you look them up, it all points to just basic intelectual property being stolen/copied at a simpler level
Sloth Armstrong yeah , clearly has been working for chinese companies, since most big tech companies have factories there too they also have ease of production when copying stuff. It doesn’t usually lead to long lasting and stable market, but the cheaper alternatives do have a huge demand to fulfill
Aech Dee lmao what are you talking about? it’s china....of course they just took spot and reversed engineered it 😂 just like everything else in china it’s a stolen design
@@TheAechBomb yeah whatever. 100% stolen IP
This video seems to blindly assume that Boston Dynamics/Softbank intend to sell their robots as toys to consumers. Boston Dynamics simply aren't targeting consumers. They probably don't mind that companies like Unitree Robotics are ripping off their hardware to sell to consumers. The majority of Boston Dynamics' IP is software anyway, which I'm sure is carefully guarded. The Unitree robot may look similar to Spot at first glance, but you can be assured that Spot has many more features and is a much more polished platform. The $75,000 price ticket does not reflect manufacturing costs, it is recouping R&D costs. As a toy, a robot dog really isn't that useful or entertaining, and will see limited sales with a price that is puts it out of reach of most consumers. Boston Dynamics knows this, which is why they're targeting military/industrial applications.
Chinese software engineers are nothing to sneeze at. They have very talented people. To discount them is foolish. And dangerous.
Lance Monotone Kindly point out the part of my comment where I discounted Chinese software engineers.
Lance Monotone I agree talented at stealing cause you still need talent for that 😂
@@gameintheglitch1860 The red-pilled can believe whatever conspiracy they want; it doesn't change the facts out here in the real world. In the end, it doesn't matter how the Chinese got ahead of us. I have read that their coders are every bit as good as ours, others say they must have stolen their knowledge because American brains are exceptional against all evidence to the contrary. Shrug. The only thing that matters is that they have it and know what to do with it.
@@rusmiller816 I said nothing about Chinese engineers. It's obvious that the A1 is a blatant ripoff of Spot. A reasonable quality ripoff by the looks of it, but a ripoff nonetheless. Regarding the featureset/completeness of each product, all you have to do is visit each company's respective website and read the documentation. Spot is an industrial product with extensive documentation, the A1 doesn't even have a user manual. A cool toy, but Unitree has a long way to go before they can be considered a serious player in the robotics research space.
copying is less expensive than studying, investing, creating and testing.
Ever had of something called patents.. Unitree is far more manuvarable the don't have the same gates.. Boston is just another hyped up company with the luxury of being American
Uh
Chinese companies are good at copying.. 🤔
@@jaysonmokhwanatsi7365 ever [had] of theft? You edited your comment and still you missed that.
@@timtunnel1996 copying is the first step to innovation
2020: Even dogs will get unemployed
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dog: fired！😂😂😂
Haaaaaa....
Throw a rug around it and get it to bark to keep potential bugulars away from your house. 😂
But those sniffing nose are hard to replace tho.
when aliens will invade us, don't worry, the chinese will make a perfect copy of their tech at low cost the next day
It actually needs skills and technology to do a good reverse engineering and clone. Japan did that, US did that by adopting German tech after WW2... So the cycle of life Iguess
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The Philadelphia company too will be on point to help with also making those copies. So it's closer to home cuz by then, China and US would have banned each other to oblivion 🤣
@@pitot1988 they dont reverse engineer they copy everything and make some adjustment. They look the same they cant change its look because of how the program works they just dont look the same but move the same too
First person who makes this dog 5 grand and useable to carry groceries, will be the next big thing.
Or as a replacement for a wheelchair.
I’d like to see what a real dog thinks of it?
See James Bruton's channel.
China will probably have this in a year or two. look at what happened to segway, they went from $3,000 items, down to $300 after China took them over.
@@alphagt62 go watch the unbox therapy video. the dog started freaking out lol
If you like Boston Dynamics, the last thing that you want is a Steve Jobs in the company.
Yes you wouldn’t want a COE who built or resurrected multiple multiple billion dollars corporations. Yes continue to loose money until your patrons cut you off and you go bankrupt.
@@matthewhuszarik4173 you didn't seem to get the point, but i'm not exactly surprised by that fact...
@@Darusdei What IS the point?
Ahhh yes Steve jobs the guy who took a salary of 1 dollar just to make the company grow will ruin the company.........nice
@@triptabhagoria7279 $1 *to avoid tax :)
It’s amazing how cheap you can sell things when you don’t have to pay for R&D! Why doesn’t everybody just steal someone’s else tech?
Because that's not a good thing to do
@@m0nk3yman53 yes, a moral obligation towards fair business practices will surely stop companies from partaking in immoral acts that could get them a greater level of profit and influence.
because there's no one to copy from
Sarcasm people, the chinese are doing what they do best, finding a product that already works and making poor quality versions of it.
Wow, a Chinese company which has a direct copy of Boston Dynamics robot which took many years of R&D in only a couple years? Wonder how they did that?! 😂
stealing as usual
LOL, I guess Ghost Robotics are also thieves eh
Buy the original, reverse engineer it, sell it cheaper. But of course with shitty quality.
Talking about quality is a subjective point. If 90% of the world population only can afford cheaper technology then that's how business works. As a businessman, I will chase 90% of buying capability than 10%. Not everyone can buy expensive thing while we can get it at a lower price without compromising the quality too much. For example, if I could buy 10 dollar product which is durability can be up to 1 year why should I buy 100 dollar product for 3 years durability. Don't forget that tech evolving and improving very fast if I spend 100 dollars for 1 product after a year, the technology I have might be not that relevant as what as I got a year before. So should I missed out the new revolution of enhanced product for another year or spending another 100 dollars for the new one. The smartphone is a classic example.
@@srykextraodinairecreation9962 you mean "theft" of thechnology. China never innovates, they steal and make cheap.
Once an innovator shows what is possible, others follow more quickly. Just like breaking the 5 minute mile. (Edit: 4 minute mile in 1954, surpassed only 46 days later.)
You mean 4? 5 was broken probably 300 years ago
Albert Weedstein The Thug Genius you got
me! Roger Bannister 3:59.4 May 6, 1954.
@@billrumbley now athletes dont have to innovate, shoe companies do it for them.
effexon LOL. Talent + tools + practice + desire + resources.
@@effexon how do you innovate? You just fucking train hard. Modern athletes train no less harder than older athletes
“A1” eh? ... I guess that means we are a little way from the “T800” series. Which is good news.
You might think so now but just wait until they start to self-replicate. It seems T800 is not so far away after all ...
Unless they jump from S10 to S20 like some smart phones :o
Pilipino ka?
I'm currently working with both (Spot and Unitree A1) and only can say if you spend literally for every part a 7th less as Boston Dynamics sure you'll get an affordable Robot but you'll get what you pay for and as an enginner myself the Unitree feels like a toy and Spot like an industrial solution and an industrial solution will and should never be the cheapest consumer product. It should be made for the task and therefore should be well engineered. Can't say that for the A1.
Are they even the same league? Is the unitree robot as functional as spot?
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Can’t wait to see one competing on American Ninja Warrior.
My university has a robot Nina warrior course. Not legged robots though
Check out robomaster competition
Atlas could do it today.
Now that Hyundai bought BD, they will surely improve on commercialization department
Probably yeah, and for sure in their own production and factories.
Commercials aint problem shiy Boston dynamics is well known and famous, they need to cut down costs and target a market
@@drained1177 so far they have a market and are making big money selling these expensively. While companies will buy them no point making it cheaper to appeal to the more common public
@@jaidenoliver7165 Big screen 4k TVs are EXPENSIVE but are selling like hotcakes! There are a LOT of RICH people in the world!
pretty sure BD's main target are contracts. And not necessarily the SPOT model, but their programming. Sure they can sell many SPOT's at $75,000 each, but the real money is either in mass market where they can sell metric more than what SPOT is selling at a massive volume or government/corperate contracts that go into tens or hundreds of millions.
Kind of reminds me of WiFi in Australia, we invented it and yet everyone else in the world has surpassed us and improved on it.
Kind of embarrassing when you think about it
Stolen it you mean
@@HazyHerbivore
Can't steal something that was never ours, Australia fumbled the ball and everyone else picked it up.
Uh no a hollywood actress made wifi that only thing that australian scientist did was transform it and make it better plus this isnt the same since the u.s is the tech hub
By the same token France invented the internet (minitel). Bet you didn't know that
Why is there a need to monopolize anything you invent? All of science and computing is the collective effort of thousands of amazingly clever people. Its laying the first stone so others can build a pyramid.
I dont think Friedman and the physicists of the 20th century expanding on the theory of relativity mean Einstein dropped the ball, even if Friedman proved Einstein wrong about a static universe.
Claiming sole ownership of something only matters if you want to patent it and make money, its useless in terms of pushing humanity forwards. Inventing something that inspires others to work on it is not embarrassing.
Calling the Department of Homeland Security a public safety entity is a bit of a stretch.
Just wait until a gun equiped robot dog points a gun at yah lol
@Vibrant JAPAN I'm subbing
He knows - "... and other ...ah... public safety entities."
@Vibrant JAPAN Fuck it, I'll subscrie too! Succeed, damn it!
New battery tech from EVs will advance this industry tremendously. Batteries are getting more and more efficient.
U own tesla stock
and more dense, we truly live in a wonderful era
actually bateries had allmost reached their max in energy density allready...maybee they could get 15%(if that!) more for the same volume , but thats it...
@@Lipi19821 there will always be more solutions, as you know numbers are infinite
@@HoloScope enyoj that 1 more milimeter of range 5 years latter...ant then 0,01 mm in next 5...
I just wonder when they'll release the first leged wheel chair. Remembering my late friend Lennart who was bound to a wheelchair that would have been such an incredible upgrade!
Joe
@@KoolAids-vj1ll mama?
Do it. What's stopping you ?
As I understand it, 3D printing can help reduce costs in prototyping and small-batch production, but at this point, traditional tooling is still more efficient for mass production.
Yes
How many units are they producing to sell at $70k is the real question? Maybe it could be more cost effective at their scale?
the technology is basically out there for anyone to use the tricky part comes with the programming and visual recognition mostly, not so much getting the servos and step motors to work
Facts. The open source stuff seems great though.
Yeah. Many people that aren’t familiar with control theory often over look how difficult it is tune control algorithms .
@@jesuseyez619 😂The challenge that will hit Engineers in this century will be so great I bet that books will be written about it in the next.
Boston Dynamics has already open sourced its code on many stuff. They already did the hard work.
@@l0_0l45
🤔Welp
Lemme dig my fingers into some of the code.
"John, shouldn't we be making these technologies more affordable?"
"Naw, i think it's Goodenough"
That what I was thinking 😂😂
Naw let it B. Goodenough :)
@Vibrant JAPAN dude- great content man- You've sold me
Affordable robots to replace you in your job, thats going to be so great for ya!
😂😂😂😂😂
In reality the simile is between Microsoft, and just about every other software company of the eighties. While everybody else was doing technology, Gates was was doing business.
*BD has unlimited amount of money because all comes from US Army; you know all that taxes we paid go to.*
Boston Dynamics definitely have the fan base to go commercial.
What do you mean when you say commercial
@@sr_aron
What he means is that they have the fanbase to go into the consumer market.
Everyone: uses spots for Industries
Me: uses him as a dancing buddy
"I don't know who would have a use for Parkour robots"
Disney would be interested for Disney world attractions where dangerous stunts are done by people. They're ready developing them
Military and police. Thats who BD are aiming for.
A big push for robotic development was the nuclear disaster in Japan.
A robotic cop in pursuit of an outlaw?
@@michaelpettersson4919 a ROBOCOP
We need to send these robots to the moon and build a moon base
Would need a massive engineering effort to keep the regolith from destroying it's components. Every flake of it is like a shard of glass. Astronaut's suits were ruined by it.
You're not wrong.
@@Scott_C Why not have wheels on legs that can adjust its height with most of the construction equipment on a robotic arm on the back. The hopping motion of the dog will kick up more moon dust than a slow moving rover.
For the wheels can be directly driven with a motor inside the hub.If the weight is too heavy for the motor-in-wheel design, then a motor in the arm connected to a drive shaft directly that goes down to a small differential that can slide up and down and act in harmony with a suspension made of some springy composite material can work too, and possibly the latter design would be easier to make than the prior if you include seals at each component that moves against each other and what separates the components from the inside to the outside world just like many car components .
@@31bank wheeled robot would make sense. However, take a minute to go research the wheels used on the Moon Buggy NASA made for the Apollo Missions. That may help you understand what you're suggesting.
They'd only last mechanically a few days. They likely wouldn't work on the lunar surface at all due to cosmic particle bombardment. Space hardware needs to be rad hardened.
They need a Steve jobs for what, to make it more expensive?
Yeah they would need to make it more expensive just to cover his salary.
@Sergio Balaguera Sush, stop worshiping a dead man.
In future these ai machines will share those clips saying " see how a human kicking our ancestors its time to avenge"
I think you hit the nail on the head. I've always kind of known this on a subconscious level but you really made it clear.
Robots you can bang, that's the future.
😂🤣😂 Yep. 😂🤣😂
That's going to happen watch the porn industry...! If it's going to happen they are the ones to do it.
How could it be any other way in 'murica? (? xD
@@barriewright2857 Someone once told me, a new technology has matured as soon as the Porne industry uses it in a substantial way.
To make a robot that can walk is easy if compared to a robot that can give you hugs and comfort.
Its not like anyone wants to fuck a hung of metal, what we all seek is deeper and way more complex interaction.
So i have my doubt about sex robots, and if we ever make a robot cable of feeling human enough to imitate love. we gonna run into the AI problem of the singularity.
In fact I feel pretty secure in saying its stupid dream that'll never come true, because sex is more than putting stuff in holes.
An here is why:
Without a truly human feeling brain, its gonna be be huge turn off for most sane people, and with a human feeling brain you no longer have a robot but a human.
Because we only want the perfect human, we all know how to spot a fake human, it's in our instincts. so anything less will hit right in the uncanny valley and be a huge turnoff.
I do not see how you gonna make a perfect copy of human, that somehow is not a human.
All that said, people are probably in the end fine with paying high cash for fake sex, it will mostly only be for men as the robots won't be much more than a glorified sexy toy.
Chinese companies are relentless in cut throat competition, they will bring down the cost of a 4 legged robot to that of an iphone, not the 75k of Boston Dynamics.
For the good of mankind, imagine buying one of these to help your grandparents haul their weekly groceries for them because this relentlessness of chinese competiton
@@youngz13o What village do you live in ? , they just have Uber drop it off on the front porch
out in the sticks ? A drone will do it , having the dog carry it ? Not that feasible
@@youngz13o for the good of mankind ? You do realize that one of the reasons why Chinese products are cheap is because of Chinese labor. So witch mankind are you talking about. Because it's definitely not these working in the factory.
Have you any idea how overpriced an iphone is?I live in india...For the price of a brand new iphone i could buy a New 100-200cc motocycle.Its ridiculous.Let me give you another example..Hv you heard of the interceptor from re?its probably the cheapest 650cc bike in the states..but in india it costs half of that😂😂😂
Toms River sorry but you are part of the crowd that lives in a bubble. Do you know who are the 800 million people that were lifted out of poverty? It was the people that worked in the factories
It really depend on what customer the company is targeting on. Anyway, Boston Dynamic is my tea as it means creativity. Someone already said that to make something cheaper is much more easy than create something new, and it's true. To keep the creation we need to "keep" the creators
The hardest and most important part of engineering is driving down the cost of amazing tech until it is compelling enough to he affordable.
The fact that their competitors cant charge a higher price should give you a hint about who got leverage.
There's considerable functionality difference.
When you r&d for ten years and some rips you off making it impossible to again make something else amazing
How much of that chinese knock off do you think they obtained directly from BD? (official or not-so)
You can't tell just from the looks. BD could use for copyright or design patents if people could confuse the two products, but no telling what is copied and what just basically works because form follows function.
It looks as though they bought one and reverse engineered it, they are far too similar. They could have at least changed the aesthetics a bit.
Its the feeling you get when you go on Alibaba and see your design copied ,
And its only half price , China passes the "slavings" on to you !
I ended up just "Leaking" the designs I knew would fail ,
Looked good on paper , prototype showed numerous core problems
Let them waste there time and resources
Chinese 🤣🤣
Its so depressing when people like you focus on profitability instead of pushing the boundaries and making the most advanced tech possible...
Yes, Spot is not meant for the average consumer but instead focused on Industrial and probably military applications. And Spot probably had more High quality parts and functions. Its not only about the money.
Companies that are not profitable go out of business and in the private sector profits are needed in order to push the boundaries! Only government can push the boundaries without making a profit because they have tax slaves like you and me!
you potato, what drives progress and development IS PROFITABILITY! No one works for free. Humankind ALWAYS developed new technology, BETTER technology beause of PROFIT. People invent stuff to do things better, faster and CHEAPER so that they will PROFIT off the time saved by using new tech, you are totally ignorant about what technology is.
Without the PROFIT INCENTIVE you have stagnant societies like tribals societies or communists.
Have you even wondered why North Korea is stuck in the 1960? Because there's no PROFIT INCENTIVE so no one uses better technology or tries to improve things. Why would they? They don't get paid more...so why bother taking years inventing new stuff?
You’re calling someone a potato while also making wildly stupid claims. R&D for tech is expensive, and if you want to innovate, you’re going to need to pay expensive specialists (roboticists, engineers, electricians, software devs) to play around with technologies-unprofitably- and sort out their potential/applications. For ex, Hyundai owns a controlling stake in Boston Dynamics. it’s not profitable for them now, but they have many other sources of profit that can offset their losses here. Because the technology they’re funding could have real utility in the future, they’re hoping their bet pays off.
Also, North Korea has been subject to strict sanctions from the western superpowers for over half a century, and is basically cut off from the rest of the world economy. Tourism, immigration, new knowledge and strong international partnerships? Forget about it. This seems to be generally why they struggle. Communist social/political structure can be used with free market characteristics, as is the case with China, which does not consider itself truly capitalist. And they’ve progressed quite quickly in very little time. You’re not smart
@@bc5588 you double potato, you invest into companies because you hope for future gains. When people invest in Boston dynamic they expect it to become profitable in the future.. Do you seriously think the opposite its true???
China is NOT communist lol
North Korea is NOT poor because of sanctions. Sanctions are only on guns, you double potato. That's the excuse dictator use to quell the protests. "no guys it's totally not my fault why u have to eat grass, it's the evil US banning us from having nuclear missiles, if only we had them you could be eating better"
You realized the nonsense you write?
No one is stopping tourism or immigration in NK. You can buy a ticket and go there.. Why don't you?
Answer me.
Good video with a very salient point. Hope BD sees this.
A good example is Honda’s ASIMO, where did that go?
Jumped on the back of the prototype honda D18 and escaped human capture to start the robotic rebellion from a inhospitable wasteland near fukushima power plant.
Robotics that imitate basic human structure/movements/coexistence don't seem as commercially viable as something more specialized, like a rescue bot or something.
@@gluttonousmaximus9048 is commercially viable unless is too expensive. Most basic jobs for humans require basics set of motions. And the think is basic human motions, like leg movements, are far more flexible then whelled motion.
And besides huge costs, far bigger then todays robots, ASIMO had problems performing basic motions and was very slow for most of them. You are making a dumb comparisson.
Was that ever supposed to be a product?
US acquire them....
why is the background trying to hypnotize me?
They want YOU to become their Steve Jobs
It would be fascinating to see all of these robots in a “head to head” challenge, my point being that although some of the competitors maybe cheaper that isn’t necessarily synonymous with better. I think the narrator in the vid is correct, Boston Dynamics definitely need something with the drive and insight of a Steve Jobs or Ellon Musk like figure.
U can expect innovating companies like boston dynamics to show less progress reports (cool robot videos) publicly in the future.
Thanks, Winnie.
To be fair, you don’t discuss the technical differences between the two. Whilst the Chinese knock off might appear similar to BD’s Spot, I’m pretty sure Spot is in a completely different league in regard to technical ability and real word applications. One is a toy, the other a scientific instrument.
is it? spot doesn't have much intelligence on its own, you have to program it to do tasks, very far from a siri automated helper.
@@churblefurbles siri spies on you
Churble Furbles so what’s your point? Spot does have learning abilities, it can map the area it walks, and adapt. As well as having many ways to expand its sensors and functionality. It’s primarily designed to function in industry, not an expensive toy. Not forgetting ALL devices require a level of programming since true AI isn’t here. It’s a matter of selecting the tool that fits the purpose.
@@rodd1000 shhh don't tell the idiot he's an idiot
Didnt he mention that Boston Dynamics are still big step ahead technologically, his argument is that without a business model it is unlikely to stay that way for long.
Being an American company, could some of this relate to a focus on military applications--with the history of an over-priced industry?
Excellent perspective and commentary.
I wish I could go back in time to 1984, go to a Terminator premiere, pick a few people after the show, get them in a room and show them this YT video. The reactions I'd get would be priceless.
they would 400 percent shit themselves or pass out lmao
I agree with you imagine if BD had a Musk type person leading the company what a difference. Marc Raibert stated that the use cases for their bots are Emergency Response, Parcel Delivery, Security, Entertainment, Warehouse Iogiistics, Elderly & Disabled Care. I hope BD takes your advice also I want to see a competition human vs bots in Olympic type sports. Seems they need to power a bot for at least 8 hours of use and build up from their, the battery tech is not their yet!
if you don't think musk is heavily and secretely funded by the gov't you need to lay off the meth.
Totally Agree... not only they need.. any of us need to have this instinct for the business.. great video.
I work for nuclear industry, and Chinas stuff is last thing you want. I used to work for a company that designed and manufactured bespoke ROVs that would cost well more than $74k. Still, specification of environment, requires best possible equipment. It may cost less to purchase a Chinese knock off but it can cost more in time to resolve any issues, problems, instabilities, and projects not delivered on time. So I would not worry about BD as long as they deliver reliable equipment.
Very interesting comparison, seems that black robots from Unitree has more features than the robots from Boston Dynamics, it can totally flat, then rotating back to walking position. Also seems it has less bulk size. If it can carry 5kg, this is really something to end-user market. The price is definitely something will determine the winner of the market.
So can Spot... And Spot carries 14 kilo...
I love Boston Dynamics passions to give their best on their robots instead of cutting off price for certain parts just to make their robot relevant than the others. Other companies make cheaper robots but people will look up to Boston Dynamics as the best in the robotics business
Boston Dynamics needs to make the programming and distribution of apps for their robots as easily as possible, that way they can become the PC of consumer robotics.
I like the analog but I do not think that is Boston dynamics Job. With PCs users Flunder usecases themselves Spot. Many users became experts and published Software, way more than a Single manufacturer alone ever could...
Given enough time and granted that the spot Plattform is open for this I see a lot of Potential in these things.
But remember the days when only 400 PCs have been Sold... there is still along way to go, such communitys usually Take time to grow.
Spot is a really gute step though, as atlas will be and I guess one that will o ly really be understood in a faraway, future, what a great time to live in and watched this development
Seriously, his name is John Goodenough!
It’s simple: the military.
Looks like unitree just copied Boston, and I mean flagrantly copied (stole) their design, now is selling below market price to starve the competition.
That's just vile
actually Unitree launched their product to customers a few months before Boston Dynamics did. Also there are about 100 different quadrapeds which all look the same. This isn't cutting edge. It was announced to the world like 10 years ago, which is just after the 1st iphone. Now every phone in the world almost looks the same. You can learn to build them yourself online.
AGREED.....
@@arthurzettel6618 dude I saw your reply but totally forgot the context. Please elucidate..;)
Oh I saw the title, it rings a bell. Chinese copying. What do you think about it
They obviously stole the technology. China do it all the time.
Great video. I agree with you that the market may be about to change. I liked your comparison with Parc and Apple.
When do we get the first domestic house robot who can do the diches, dusting, vacuum cleaning, cleaning the toilet and bathroom, washing, ironing, cooking and gardening?
Just like anything new, _how can we weaponize it?_
YES! With a $10K price tag, 4-leged robots will fly off the shelves. The $70K+ was simply too much for the average consumer.
LOL, yes. Personally, I waited to get my first smartphone until they came down to $5K.
@@AlecMuller wait what? Smartphones for 5k ?!
It’s similar to drone photography/ surveying, only it’s in it’s own specialised role. If your doing maintenance jobs in buildings, vents or tunnels, these small drones are perfect for the task of fitting into small or hazardous spaces. From a business standpoint if this makes a $60,000p.a worker 20% more efficient, you will have already turned a profit on the investment within the first year.
@@kubajackiewicz2 I had to read that again
A $10K party novelty gets old really fast.
They need to make an intrinsically safe spot for Class 1 zones per the NFPA
Cyberdyne Systems have some interesting developments along with Skynet.
Everyone gangsta till one of the bots asks for a Plasma Rifle in 40 watt range
Everything in tech needs competition other wise they’ll just have high priced units until competition comes in the game and offers cheaper prices
any competition in the tech world would only make the market better and better in terms of price, quality, and value for customers
We need pressure on innovation not price. Price pressure means R&D becomes too expensive and innovators cannot enter the market, so you end up with a race-to-the-bottom with everyone selling the same cost-cut-to-the-bone design.
@@panduadikara9078 any competition in any time of market is good
Hell, even in an individual level, competence can be good
“Developed” by Unitree
J J yeah just skip all the other amurican companies doing the same thing and blame the chinese company, real class.
Winnie the pool
@@missyxixi Hey, just show us one of those "other companies" claiming to have "developed" it and we'll laugh at them too.
@@missyxixi there are no other companies, this is literally the iron man meme where Ton Stark shows how behind all the other countries are, they literally stole the idea and built a toy that wont do what it was made for
Good point. Application application application. An acrobatic robot is a great proof of concept. But can't see a market or use for it in any area of life. As novelty and entertainment it gets old real fast too.
Do you think Hyundai after buying them will change that and make them have a vision? (Like affordable robots to be as abundant as quad drones)
I feel like big companies can still take advantage of more advanced robots like an automated ultraviolet light path clearing robot in virus infested areas or hospitals.
Why do you think I went to school for a MS in mechanical engineering?! To be a robot supervisor or repairman 🤔😁😂
Clearly a repairman
Repairman and your robot overlords will let you live. 😄
Dont you forget the military-industrial comples where Affordability isnt that important because the Military will pay for the best espically in the US with there Military Budget.
And so i guess they will focus on that market where you can earn damn good money (for example lokk at Lockheed ).
What makes you think the 74k $ retail price are their production cost for a spot robot? Do you really mean production cost as in materials and assembly costs? I am convinced the price is chosen to agree with what buyers are prepared to pay and is supposed to cover some of the huge R&D costs over the anticipated number of sales...
BD spent a tremendous time giving the ML for their robots with physical training task, which came with the package cost, but all that ML can be copy translated into software, allowing blackmarket sales of far more affordable entity/mechs.
Imagine 1:1 gundam in Japan has movement system by boston dynamics
I find it hilarious he just said a salesman was a visionary and an engineer just wanted to create stuff.
The title should read: "Why the world should be worried about Chinese IP theft".
Basically. Who cares if the Chinese or other parties steal the tech, they won't innovate on it because thats not what they care about. They just want to profit off it as long as possible until it becomes outdated and they have to buy another to steal a new design. Well that and generating tons of e waste with products that go straight from the production line to the landfill.
@@AshleyBrown-fj3wh , China is filing more patents than any other nation actually.
@@HR-yd5ib yeah that'll happen when you have a billion people with the potential to file them. Look I'm not saying the Chinese are bereft of creativity or other such racist nonsense, but to pretend they don't steal designs and ignore patants and copyright law is pretty foolish.
@@AshleyBrown-fj3wh , hence my suggestion to change the title of this video!
yeah, it is not like Chinese ever beat US in anything, like, i dunno 5G...
A response from the CEO or CTO or just anyone from Boston Dynamics would be appreciated! Can you interview them?
'They have the Tesla, they need the Edison!!'
It's fun seeing our future robot overlords while they're still young and cute
a parkour rbot isnt made for parkour. its to test a robots agility, its balance, its battery life, power usage. so many things go into moving a robot. so yes they made a parkour robot but you have no idea how much of a leap that is if you see it as just a "parkour robot"
It seams to me that BD aggregates money for development. I think this is fine, I'm also a developer and happy when I just can build my ideas. Maybe a concept like ARM would work, deliver the concept /software for a license. Forcing a developer to aim for money will kill their joy on developing stuff (happened to me).
"I'll believe i t when I see it" as the saying goes. Intent to produce something at an affordable price is in no way related to actually achieving that goal. That chinese robot already looks like it's using the exact same movement software as Boston Dynamics, so I wouldn't put it past Chinese sticking to their regular theft of intellectual property.
There's the SOLO8, too. Open source to boot. :)
Yes you are correct in my opinion their tech is amazing put how can I use it in my life affordably create a product for the masses and also for industry and military purposes.
This script of this video feels like the sort of thing I'd expect to read in a Hacker News comment.
Personally I think you might be right. Boston Dynamics does a ton of awesome research but I've yet to see them demonstrate a viable path to commercialization for most of their products. Even Spot seems rather expensive for what it does. That said, I'm not sure the cheap Chinese knock-offs are any closer to commercialization either. Being cheaper is only a small part of the equation.
Well done Dude! Very insightful! We owe you a beer!
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The wheeled robots like evoBOT and Boston Dynamics Handle are the future or robots that are useful and ai will just improve them.
Humanoid robots is one model for generalized use but that doesn't mean its the only one, like how a mouse isn't the only way to interact with a computer and Steve Jobs came up with the specific touch screen interaction and zoom functions. We could see a more general purpose robot that doesn't look anything like us, like maybe it has 6 arms and extending legs on wheels.
US makes research and development.
Chinese scientist copy paste the next day selling cheaper.
Are these news?
Yeah communism is too restrictive for inventive creatively. So they copy stuff
I really liked the analogy of John Goodenough
it's a really sad story imaginging the amount of time he took to develope the Lithium Ion batteries and not being compensated for that achievement as he should.
He is actually working on developing a promising new type of batteries that could change the landscape of energy storge
Lucky innovators and techie people like goodenough isn’t business-minded.. else we won’t hv Steve jobs ‘s apple
would love to see a new video regarding the recent acquisition !
As long as people call Boston dynamics competition „the other guys“, I don’t think they have much of a problem.
Just my opinion:
- Just because they look the same, doesn't mean China have spies or reverse engineer the BD's robot.. It looks like that because it follow the shape of 4-legged animal. And just because the outer shape looks the same, doesn't mean the internal hardware and software also the same.
- I don't think military is interested with (current) BD's robots. It's slow, expensive, and one bullet is enough to disable it, if you add metal armor, it'll be even slower. Flying or wheeled drone is more suitable for military use.
I don't think it's for direct combat
>chineese "developed"
>looks more or less the same as the og
hmmmm*
@@woodypigeon thats what soviets/chineese always did. The copied a design and either improved it slightly or made it worse due no quality control... But its still copying either way
@@pottasium7117 So would the world (other than Germany) please stop making cars which are all copies of the original design made by Carl Benz.
Good. Then _you_ make one. Easy-peasy, no?
@@Kah7654 implying that major improvements on old shit and copying (with downgrading or slight changes to the design ) is one and the same
@@bazoo513 give me as big of a budget as those companies have and just as many personel and sure, even a monkey could lead a group of engineers with big budget without resorting to espionage
It reminded me of a scene from the Iron Man movie, where people from all over the world were trying to make their own powersuites
great respect for boston dynamic for it's original research
this is what I've been telling them!
I’ve always felt really suspicious about those guys.
There are at least a couple of basic business concepts at play here. One is that the first to the market doesn't necessarily win in the long run because of their greater engineering investment and start up costs. Another is that you must continually innovate. There is a saying that, "If you don't obsolete your own product, somebody else will". While a "me too" competitor is a threat, usually with pricing. It is the competitor who gets ahead of you that is perhaps the greater risk. Another is the protection of intellectual property. It is costly and difficult. But it should be part of the corporate business plan and operations nowadays.
Boston dynamics are not selling to retail but to military and engineering customers. The robots are high specification, high load carrying and capable of working reliably in dangerous environments. They are semi-autonomous tools for industry not a toy for public play things. In view of this $70K is not expensive for these customers.
Michael reeves is gonna be pissed that he could've bought that 10k one instead of a 100k one XD
It wouldn't have been able to hold the beer though
The 10k one is just ripping bostons hardware. Bostons mostly sells software. Bostons robot is in every way superior
The Boston Dynamics boys should have a serious chat with Elon Musk who is currently a mass production guru. The only man on earth to establish a space ship production line.
Just think of how much fun they would have with their robots on the Moon or Mars! Imagine the acrobatics they could do!
Good idea!
He is currently using at least one Spot at his Boca Chica Spacex manufacturing and testing facility.
> The only man on earth to establish a space ship production line.
Just Factorio
I’m sure Elon will have 🤖 on Mars building base camp etc
No need for ELON in this case. ATLAS should just learn to assemble itself.