Notably, Ivara has probably the best use for Huras Kubrows also, since they will not attack enemies that are not alerted as long as Ivara + Companion are invisible, meaning the dog can constantly dig up 2-3 energy orbs every x meters. Additional usage for Limbo: Deimos bounties. You can banish the Grineer so they can't aimbot kill squishies to mess up your bonus chain while all your allies are struggling to discern enemies from the landscape at range.
@@theunhingedgamer3762 i agree because eximus can still attack from range and silence only pauses them for 2 seconds. Still an excellent subsume ability but I personally prefer sentient wrath subsumed over stasis for crowd control and damage
@@VetriVade The stun is only 2 seconds, but they still can't use their abilities within the field. Just build for range, yes I know a range Limbo is heresy, it works pretty damn well.
That's why I subsumed banish onto my ivara. Makes even high level rescues super easy. Just banish the rescue target as soon as you find them, then you've got 70+ seconds to get to extraction while invis and no worries at all.
Mesa is downed like that due to a bug yes, it's a bug related to the fact that the game now thinks that Mesa is from the Patient Zero quest. The game is then confused when you take them down so she acts like a tenno specter and gets 'downed' forcing you to finish her off.
RIP to all Limbo mains. They were all killed in great eximus rework of 2022. You will be missed in Hieracon, and there will never be enough cryotic again.
@@mutilationgaming2978 I remember hearing how Limbo was screwed, and immediately tried this to test how he does with silence. I love reducing eximi to glorified neon units.
Nah eximus killing Limbo is overrated, abilities still affect you but projectiles remain frozen. Honestly have more trouble dealing with nullifiers like Violence or just Mania’s air shield.
A fun one is using Ivara to cheese high level interception missions. You could sleep the entire area and as long as you can keep them slept, more enemies won’t spawn until the current group dies. Makes doing the solo interception riven easy.
you actually have to refresh sleep on enemies, if you just use xaku you can lift them up and with decent duration you will only have to cast your ult 1-2 more times/ round w/o needing to refresh the stun duration on anyone.
Another thing I saw on Reddit was to use Wisp. Her passive makes her invisible in the air, so you can just bunny hop your way behind your target, and knock them down with a finisher
Be aware the next MR test(MR20) is the Archwing flight test. You can beat that by just equipping the speed mod 'Hyperion Thrusters' to an Itzal(like an unranked one). You can beat it in like 15 seconds and only hitting a couple of rings at the most. Edit: actually I got it in 8 seconds without using the rings. You just need to make sure to use the archwing dash when it's ready.
As someone already mentioned, wisp is great for this too, add on Aerodynamic and Patagonia with Motus Signal and float for days. I used Xoris over Redeemer for mr19, but both are great choices! Gl!
for even more cheese with Ivara use the twin Basolk with its augment now if the spy vault has an enemy in it you can just teleport into the vault through the glass Amar's set works too but with a lower range
For the stealth challenge cheese, you can also just use literally any Glaive, with they’re heavy attack being a massive, silent, high damage explosion, and frame can work. Heck, throw on ivara and you don’t even need to mod for enemy radar.
you can also use the skiajati and only use finishers so you're perma invisible, did it with gauss so I could get to enemies faster and keep the invisibility up
Kengineer is too right with this one, Wether it's using max duration efficiency assimilate nyx absorb to be permanently immune to damage, ash smoke and loki invis to fight liches and sisters without them fighting back, wukong cloud to speedrun spy missions, and the list goes on; the game has so many cheeses to be used
Limbo’s only real disadvantage is that no one likes being in a squad with Limbo, because everyone who isn’t Limbo doesn’t want to get dragged into his dimensional shenanigans.
As long as I know I've got a limbo I can take something to work around it. Like speedva, just make the enemies sprint into the frozen bubble at the speed of sound
@@tavianarmstrong974 I actually didn't know that, but I don't really use frames with exalted weapons so I guess it makes sense. Maybe I take the jellyfish out
@@tylerprime6741 yeah you can be banished or in cataclysm and kill enemies outside or vice versa with exalted abilities. Cheesed many defense missions doing so. Mesa being the easiest to abuse the combo
the eximus rework killed Limbo for me, Vauban with Repelling Bastille augment to stack duration on the Vortex is the way to go to cheese MD, Excav and Defense
I cheesed the junctions with Excalibur. Just radial blind and exalted blade. Almost everything else I abuse with Ivara. She's been my main frame for years due to how bloody well she nullifies the need to actually play to the mechanics of most missions. Only defense and mobile defense missions can't be cheesed by her at all. Edit: oh wow lol I wrote this before finishing the video. Love seeing my girl get the credit she deserves
The other way to cheese the MR9 test is to use something like the xoris or other glaives, especially with the explosion radius increase. The glaive explosion is entirely silent and therefore can be used to delete the enemies, sometimes multiple at once.
The cheese you left out especially with the jackal is operator mode, you can just crouch in operator mode and the jackal lasers won't hurt you and you can bypass pretty much everything else that way too lol
Hildryn with Balefire and Aegis Storm. I can solo lots of missions and you just stand there and everything dies. Or use Khora, using the helm, Pull from Mag. Then just use Strangledome, then Pull. Everyone gets sucked in and dies.
I’m a bit late, but Wisp’s 2 also has the ability to cross Corpus lasers without triggering an alarm, plus, she’s fully invisible when not touching the ground.
For the mastery test I did wisp + glaive. If you bunny hop with wisp you are permanently invisible since there is a grace period when you land where you stay invisible. This is not disabled as it is a passive, not strictly an active ability, so with glaive you can just look around corners and slap people. They will be unable to alert to you no matter what you do, as long as you don't ground slam or face slam. Pretty fun not gonna lie. Certainly not as ranged as redeemer but another option.
Lull Ivara is what got me to MR 30, that 500% affinity stealth boost made levelling anything that wasn't the mk-1 strun easy peasy. Definitely the best way to go for people like me that don't have friends.
Ahh... The stealth MR tests. Brings me memories. Long time ago, when there was no gunblades, I used my trusty glaive to cheese the most enemies. I remember a weird fixed camera this test have though which kinda made this cheese method a lot harder.
Good old Limbo maxed range for collectibles was the true cheese for ez syndicate rep up, before Parallax. He can also be used to protect the operative on Defense and Rescue missions.
Except for one single specific case where the operative dies instantly without any revives, it is always better to just bring any nuke frame instead of a defensive one (for this case even gara is better than limbo because it can give him defence while also being able to nuke) for Defense missions because they are basically just stationary exterminate missions. If there is no risk of losing from them dying (as they can simply be revived for the very few cases they even die) bringing a frame that is focused and only used to prevent said event that can't happen is a little pointless to begin with. It's like, because you misunderstood when your parents said to always wear protection, you put on a condom even though there's nobody to have sex with around, yes you will feel like you're doing what they said/what the objective says, be protected/defend X, but at the end of the day you'll probably just end up walking really weird everywhere not understanding how others aren't having trouble completing their objective while not using the protection like you are.🤣
about a year ago, i had an idea to take the limbo cheese further by infusing perspicacity over rift surge (helminth ability that makes you instantly hack the next console you open) and farming for the parazon mod untraceable (15 seconds invis after hacking) i was able to make a build of max efficiency + sprint speed that simply waltzed through every spy mission perspicacity even works in sorties, so you dont need ciphers or have to worry about last second hacks if the vault is being wiped ive since been trying to get runtime for a sprint speed buff after hacking but been pretty unlucky with the drops and never motivated for more than a few runs at a time
using ash fatal teleport is also a easy way to cheese killing eximises ( probs spelt that wrong) since ya can stil do finishers on them but they are immme to cc with their over guard active but ya can still use fatal teleport to do a finisher on them, which usually insta killes them even with over guard on them
Nother tip for jackal i use pretty often but dont see others do is the operator/drifter void mode can ignore the laser walls and your warframe will wont take any real damage it will still slam you across the room but its a quick void sling back to transfer for the finisher queues.
You can now also use melee while in air as operator to instantly switch to warframe and do a melee ground slam under the jackal after it's stomp, if you are spamming x you will also cancel the slam before reaching the ground and be put into the jackal animation.
Limbo is the perfect index frame. If you lock down the deposit point all the enemies will come to you, add enemy radar to see them and use a high slash or high single target damage weapon to one shot index enemies. Have a second limbo to pickup the points and deposit them at literally no risk, use rolling guard to exit the cataclysm bubble and then dodge to enter the rift and just run to the enemies deposit
2:38 I prefer using wisp with any weapon for this one. Her passive to go invisible while airborne makes it so that you could bullet jump and ground slam right in front of them and you'd be fine. Quick and easy, no sound or sight.
I remember using limbo to run specifically Pavlov-Lua had to endure 80+ runs to get my Ivara chassis, 8-6 minutes a run. By the end i wasnt sure whos cheesing who
I Cheesed my junctions with Nyx and her Mind Control, all damage you do to a target while they are controlled will be inflicted when you ability ends. So just bring you highest damage weapon and keep bonking the mind controlled enemy until the ability ends XD
Yup. Been using Limbo for all spy missions, going on for years now. Clanmates were non-believers until I showed them my spy build with max range Cata-bomb, move speed, and Persipacity Helminth skill 🤣
I used limbo for spy missions until I picked up Infiltrate on Ivara. Limbo is good, but some vaults have things that limbo has to respect. Mostly Kuva vaults with their invincible cameras, but still
Alternative for stealth mastery challenges: bunny-hopping Wisp. Her passive is invisibility while airborne. Alternative for spectres: Mag bubble. Make enemy projectiles work for you instead of against you and increase damage spectres receive.
I remeber cheesing the junctions on the normal star chart with mag, just popping her bubble on the specters and watching them kill themselves. I assume on steel path, it would work more or less the same, but now i have a mini nuke i can through in in the form of a small pistol or other random weapon
Junction spectres can also be cheesed by revenant with some strength. Mesmer skin and get hit or enthrall them and they become friendly. Reave through them and they die-
Another way of cheesing MR tests that requires stealth is using Wisp and bunny hopping. I'm not kidding, I managed to do those tests with her because of her passive of being invisible in the air.
I think the Wisp and Skiajati were left out On Purpose due to them being Unrealistic to Expect MR 8 Players playing through The Sacrifce Quest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Banshee is MR 0 and Redeemer is MR 4 so that's more realistic for the Average Tenno
I'd not thought about the Ivara tripwire trick...I do know you can wall latch above the lasers, and loki has bonus wall latch time...but there are a few nooks you can sometimes land upon and not fall...
Not useless, but it requires more thought. Use a reduced range build just big enough to cover the defense target and hide in there - the Nullifiers usually won't pop it because their pistol attack has a far enough range to try and shoot you or the target without having to get close enough for the bubbles to interact with each other. When they do pop it, it's usually because they were jumping up or down to get to the target's level and 'accidently' bumped it. It does make him incredibly vulnerable to Eximus, however. No reaction time or distance to see something moving through the rift and dump a full burst from a Laetum in that general direction. At least solo.
@@Darthmufin I really hope they rework the nullifiers from being dumb kamikaze units, b/c currently that's all they are (with exception to the sniper who still uses this ai but sometimes hangs back) I kinda also wish that DE would halve the nullifier bubble size & fix the current visual bug of the bubble not going away when popped.
I had a hard time with the MR 19 test when I first took it, but I eventually found a way to cheese it: I used a Kestrel and loaded all the Projectile Speed mods I could on it (including it's Syndicate mod), along with Volatile Quick Return. I was able to complete the challenge easily by either one-shotting the Grineer from nearly across the map, or knocking them off the platform from Volatile Quick Return's explosion if the one-shot failed. 😅
Octavia is amazing for cheesing almost everything And for the jackal just go operator form and stand directly below him in void mode when he does the laser walls, when he falls down sometimes you'll be popped directly up and back down to interact with him sending him to the next phase in record time
+1 for octavia. Her 1 and 2 just straight up short circuit enemy AI, which combined with teabagging to become see through makes nearly all content easy.
Wisp is my go-to cheese frame. Doing spy vaults? Your passive is undetectable to cameras (just don't bump into anyone), and her 2 can pass through barriers. All you need is a glaive to break any difficult cameras. Doing literally anything else? Health motes and jumping will give you space to heal, use silence if there's eximi, and worst case, use glaives or an exodia contagion zaw to slowly, but safely clear all the enemies (maggots from the infested glaive can use shock motes, too). Also, Limbo + Silence. Yes, the Eximi can still move in your world of stopped time, but all you need is to turn off their powers, and be able to kill like 5 enemies max. Another fun combo is Nidus + Hirudo. Before I figured out how to start modding for steel path, I went in with max health and range, and max crit. I gave up after 30 minutes because neither of us were dying.
That banshee strat for those mr test reminds me of the ranged melee plus whisp combo we used, cool to see this can also be done with one of the dojo frames.
One curious rhing iv notices playing fossa against jackal is even high mr players...tend to die sometimes at nightmare mode. Because they try to jump evading lasers or trying to take cover with pilars. And i havent seen anybody doing what I do, just parkour the wall and stick to it refreshing the spiderman once in a while. I dont pretend to sound the "smartest guy in the room" because I always learn something new or and mindblowing interactio.n in this game...its just curious
Revenant is a pretty good cheese frame too. Just cast mesmer skin and you're unkillable to almost everything and then you turn them into allies afterward allowing for free kills
I remember one shotting every junction boss , and then having my friend literally give me control so I could kill the bosses for them, and wondering why I was so much more powerful then they are. I then realized it's because I obtained condition overload, and had every status on my primary and secondary, I literally shot, they died or I exalt and they die. I had no i dea berserker (before the nerf) and condition overload would make a new player look experienced. Now I'm mr 26 and try to make hated frames viable and op. I'm proud of my rift torrent ensnare limbo. Actually made the boring game fun again. Revenant is just to op, I had to stop relying on being a god, those stats at the end of the mission had me feeling some type of way.
For the first thing revenant still stuns the specters with his mesmar skin meaning they literally cant do anything after they shoot you once and you could probably whittle them down with a mk1 paris if you wanted to. Also wisp still has her invis passive for the MR9 and 19 test and thrown melees and contagion zaws also dont alert enemies so you can jump above their heads and contagion them or just yeet your glaive at them.
Limbo truck doesn't work on Archont quest. Enemies just don't care that you in different reality. It also really annoying in normal gameplay since nulificators are everywhere, and they just pop your bubble.
i got through most of the gates with any warframe i had, loki helped the setup alittle bit more but in essence you grab the bo staff and knock the enemy up in the direction of the front window, once they land on the console they get stuck and after a couple seconds they get declared dead
my first time ever cheesing this game is the junctions. when i got rhino i accidentally learned how to push spectres off the junction room by luring them to the glass and charging to them
I usually combine operator's void immunity to do spy with limbo (cuz can be invisible and intangible to hack comouters while limbo stays on rift, even inside cataclism) and to avoid jackal laser or any thing like that by voudmoding
And if you combine Ivara with low energy cost with a Kubrow with Dig and Arcane Energizer, you can be infinite amount in the Prowl. Since Dig has 270% change to give you energy orbs or what ever you might need, this is kinda funny to see.
Yes, did the MR9 test just sometime during last month with some other frame and the Redeemer. While the sound effect makes your ears ring, the Grineer were oblivious to it.
unless they changed something, all melee weps are silent, even with redeemer unless they "nerfed" that at some point. it makes noise, but it never alerted the enemies according to the wiki
@@Kakkoroto I did the MR9 test two or three weeks ago with either Nyx of Valkyr and the Redeemer. Although that weapon has a very loud sound effect, it didn't alert anyone.
@@Turjan_Miir well that's what i'm getting at, for years, the wiki has always stated that the wep itself while having sound effects to it has never actually made noise for the A.I. to hear. that is to say, it's not an alerting sound as melee weapons never had an alert status to them, so the A.I. is incapable of hearing something that isn't programmed in. probably an oversight on DE's end, but one that I hope they never discover if that's the case as they'll take a nerf stick to anything and everything without so much as play testing or feed back as they keep killing the fun aspect of the game in the name of "balance" imo.
31,5k daily Ostron rep grind catching wildlife using Ivara taking 8mins, add 2-3 min to it if u want to scan them on SP to get around 20k Simaris rep too. Fun activity, actually enjoyable for me and its efficient. (:
Even simplier: Just play Titania lol. The game was not designed with players having flight in mind. So many enemies and bosses just can't attack you, and even if they have guns you are smol and have boosted evasion, not to mention your flies distracting the enemy. Acolytes just have to stand there and let you shoot them. Flying also bypasses a lot of environment balancing. That huge gap in some Corpus missions? Just fly over it. Any mission that requires wall running? Just fly over it. Ayatan Sculpture puzzles? Just fly over it. Dragon Key debuffs? Flying is still faster than bullet jumping. I think at some point the devs said they regretted making Titania and I don't blame them.
Don't forget about birb aka Zephyr. She could evade any projectiles that comes to her body. Only for herself? No, it's for squad and objective too (Mobile Defense/Excavation/Defense with hostage). But don't decrease her range too much. While on Excavation sometimes i leave her on drill and i use Operator to pick up the battery.
Wisp with a Exodia Contagion setup solos the whole damn game. Perma Invis nukes? Teleports that bypass security lasers? Health regen to absurd amounts for any defense mission? Just lacks in trash mob clearing, but can 2 tap acolytes on a budget with some armor stripping
Just spam heavy attacks at junction bosses. This method doesnt need mods, or specific warframes. When you need either of those 2, at that point its just a build and NOT a cheese.
I've actually done the stealth MR tests with glaive type weapons (I think Orvius being my favourite). Just the same with being able to attack at range, while also being fully viable for standard melee.
If you want to cheese leveling. Any Warframe that can put enemy to sleep is a good pick. Then go to Ext Mission. Put enemies to sleep and kill them with a silent weapon. This will generally only work with weapons but you have far more of them to rank up than Warframes.
Legendary rank one, where you just have to kill with primary, you can use your opperator when you die, do this with all the passives that you do more damage you can just not die in any way
Wukong has really been buffed since he first came out, I remember people hating his cloud form (I can’t remember if this was at the time when you could take out frames powers back when they were actually mods... damn this game has changed over the years.
You should have changed intro to "Let's cheese a practical problem". Such a cheesed opportunity.
Think that's a bit too cheesy mate.
@@edwuncleriii3798 totally cheesy
So cheesy
Damn beat me to it. Glad to see this is the top comment though 😁
cheese
Notably, Ivara has probably the best use for Huras Kubrows also, since they will not attack enemies that are not alerted as long as Ivara + Companion are invisible, meaning the dog can constantly dig up 2-3 energy orbs every x meters.
Additional usage for Limbo: Deimos bounties. You can banish the Grineer so they can't aimbot kill squishies to mess up your bonus chain while all your allies are struggling to discern enemies from the landscape at range.
Limbo also works with operative Defense missions: Send the operative to the rift (banish first ability), and just pay attention to Eximus units.
Or just subsume Silence onto Limbo and turn off their abilities by standing around.
@@chaosgyro that doesn't work as well as you think it does lol
@@theunhingedgamer3762 i agree because eximus can still attack from range and silence only pauses them for 2 seconds. Still an excellent subsume ability but I personally prefer sentient wrath subsumed over stasis for crowd control and damage
@@VetriVade The stun is only 2 seconds, but they still can't use their abilities within the field. Just build for range, yes I know a range Limbo is heresy, it works pretty damn well.
That's why I subsumed banish onto my ivara. Makes even high level rescues super easy. Just banish the rescue target as soon as you find them, then you've got 70+ seconds to get to extraction while invis and no worries at all.
Mesa is downed like that due to a bug yes, it's a bug related to the fact that the game now thinks that Mesa is from the Patient Zero quest. The game is then confused when you take them down so she acts like a tenno specter and gets 'downed' forcing you to finish her off.
Very informative, thank you Darthmufin!
It's actually Really Cool, I wish all the Specters did That.. Including the Grove Specters.. 😆
Finish Him or they'll get up after 5s with 30% health
Corpus Garvey?
RIP to all Limbo mains. They were all killed in great eximus rework of 2022. You will be missed in Hieracon, and there will never be enough cryotic again.
rip Limbo indeed, now its Vauban's time to shine, with Repelling Bastille you can cheese MD, Excav and Defense
Banshees silence solves this ;)
@@mutilationgaming2978 I remember hearing how Limbo was screwed, and immediately tried this to test how he does with silence. I love reducing eximi to glorified neon units.
I was a limbo main, my first prime and also favourite Warframe design and concept wise but damn he got canned hard.
Nah eximus killing Limbo is overrated, abilities still affect you but projectiles remain frozen. Honestly have more trouble dealing with nullifiers like Violence or just Mania’s air shield.
A fun one is using Ivara to cheese high level interception missions. You could sleep the entire area and as long as you can keep them slept, more enemies won’t spawn until the current group dies. Makes doing the solo interception riven easy.
you actually have to refresh sleep on enemies, if you just use xaku you can lift them up and with decent duration you will only have to cast your ult 1-2 more times/ round w/o needing to refresh the stun duration on anyone.
I just use limbo for that riven
Yooo thanks for this
I use Octavia with her 1 augment
This is crazy I just ranked up to MR 19 and I've been struggling with the mastery test and then boom this shows up. Perfect thank you so much!
Another thing I saw on Reddit was to use Wisp. Her passive makes her invisible in the air, so you can just bunny hop your way behind your target, and knock them down with a finisher
@@jeebiv4961 ohh damn thanks this helps alot can't wait to go home and try these! Thanks!
Be aware the next MR test(MR20) is the Archwing flight test. You can beat that by just equipping the speed mod 'Hyperion Thrusters' to an Itzal(like an unranked one). You can beat it in like 15 seconds and only hitting a couple of rings at the most.
Edit: actually I got it in 8 seconds without using the rings. You just need to make sure to use the archwing dash when it's ready.
As someone already mentioned, wisp is great for this too, add on Aerodynamic and Patagonia with Motus Signal and float for days. I used Xoris over Redeemer for mr19, but both are great choices! Gl!
That was crazy range on the gun blade. How you get that much range?
for even more cheese with Ivara use the twin Basolk with its augment now if the spy vault has an enemy in it you can just teleport into the vault through the glass
Amar's set works too but with a lower range
Oh... Smart I didn't know you could TP through walls with that, I need to go get myself a Basolk now
@@BenjaTheOne yeah the only downside is the range doesn't stack with the amar set
Junctions : Valkyr punches them in the face
Refuses to elaborate
For the stealth challenge cheese, you can also just use literally any Glaive, with they’re heavy attack being a massive, silent, high damage explosion, and frame can work. Heck, throw on ivara and you don’t even need to mod for enemy radar.
you can also use the skiajati and only use finishers so you're perma invisible, did it with gauss so I could get to enemies faster and keep the invisibility up
Wisp's passive works in those mastery tests as well and you can just be perma invisible while staying in the air
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for everyone having problems with the SP junction just use revenant cast your 1 on it and fly through him with the 3 and its done basically
press 2 to win, click once :)
Wisp is my favorite cheese frame as she covers so much.
Kengineer is too right with this one, Wether it's using max duration efficiency assimilate nyx absorb to be permanently immune to damage, ash smoke and loki invis to fight liches and sisters without them fighting back, wukong cloud to speedrun spy missions, and the list goes on; the game has so many cheeses to be used
Limbo’s only real disadvantage is that no one likes being in a squad with Limbo, because everyone who isn’t Limbo doesn’t want to get dragged into his dimensional shenanigans.
As long as I know I've got a limbo I can take something to work around it. Like speedva, just make the enemies sprint into the frozen bubble at the speed of sound
limbo doesnt affect exalted weapons. So ivara and the like abuse his abilities
@@tavianarmstrong974 I actually didn't know that, but I don't really use frames with exalted weapons so I guess it makes sense. Maybe I take the jellyfish out
@@tylerprime6741 yeah you can be banished or in cataclysm and kill enemies outside or vice versa with exalted abilities. Cheesed many defense missions doing so. Mesa being the easiest to abuse the combo
the eximus rework killed Limbo for me, Vauban with Repelling Bastille augment to stack duration on the Vortex is the way to go to cheese MD, Excav and Defense
I cheesed the junctions with Excalibur. Just radial blind and exalted blade.
Almost everything else I abuse with Ivara. She's been my main frame for years due to how bloody well she nullifies the need to actually play to the mechanics of most missions. Only defense and mobile defense missions can't be cheesed by her at all.
Edit: oh wow lol I wrote this before finishing the video. Love seeing my girl get the credit she deserves
I wish I had ivara 🥲
@@johnathangee1161 Her parts drop from spy missions and you can buy the blueprint for her in the in-game market
@@elizabethyoung5304 I hate spy's ESPECIALLY CORPUS and I know how to get her, i just don't get the partysssss
I used to cheese junctions with valkyr's 4.
Literally spin to win
Bro ever since i played the game again in 2020 ive just been oneshotting them with Xoris
The other way to cheese the MR9 test is to use something like the xoris or other glaives, especially with the explosion radius increase. The glaive explosion is entirely silent and therefore can be used to delete the enemies, sometimes multiple at once.
The cheese you left out especially with the jackal is operator mode, you can just crouch in operator mode and the jackal lasers won't hurt you and you can bypass pretty much everything else that way too lol
Hildryn with Balefire and Aegis Storm. I can solo lots of missions and you just stand there and everything dies. Or use Khora, using the helm, Pull from Mag. Then just use Strangledome, then Pull. Everyone gets sucked in and dies.
I’m a bit late, but Wisp’s 2 also has the ability to cross Corpus lasers without triggering an alarm, plus, she’s fully invisible when not touching the ground.
They changed that? On release her 2 would trigger lasers. This is amazing :D
For the mastery test I did wisp + glaive. If you bunny hop with wisp you are permanently invisible since there is a grace period when you land where you stay invisible. This is not disabled as it is a passive, not strictly an active ability, so with glaive you can just look around corners and slap people. They will be unable to alert to you no matter what you do, as long as you don't ground slam or face slam. Pretty fun not gonna lie. Certainly not as ranged as redeemer but another option.
Lull Ivara is what got me to MR 30, that 500% affinity stealth boost made levelling anything that wasn't the mk-1 strun easy peasy.
Definitely the best way to go for people like me that don't have friends.
Ahh... The stealth MR tests. Brings me memories. Long time ago, when there was no gunblades, I used my trusty glaive to cheese the most enemies. I remember a weird fixed camera this test have though which kinda made this cheese method a lot harder.
Good old Limbo maxed range for collectibles was the true cheese for ez syndicate rep up, before Parallax. He can also be used to protect the operative on Defense and Rescue missions.
Except for one single specific case where the operative dies instantly without any revives, it is always better to just bring any nuke frame instead of a defensive one (for this case even gara is better than limbo because it can give him defence while also being able to nuke) for Defense missions because they are basically just stationary exterminate missions.
If there is no risk of losing from them dying (as they can simply be revived for the very few cases they even die) bringing a frame that is focused and only used to prevent said event that can't happen is a little pointless to begin with.
It's like, because you misunderstood when your parents said to always wear protection, you put on a condom even though there's nobody to have sex with around, yes you will feel like you're doing what they said/what the objective says, be protected/defend X, but at the end of the day you'll probably just end up walking really weird everywhere not understanding how others aren't having trouble completing their objective while not using the protection like you are.🤣
For the Limbo one: Eximuses say hello and goodbye.
about a year ago, i had an idea to take the limbo cheese further
by infusing perspicacity over rift surge (helminth ability that makes you instantly hack the next console you open) and farming for the parazon mod untraceable (15 seconds invis after hacking) i was able to make a build of max efficiency + sprint speed that simply waltzed through every spy mission
perspicacity even works in sorties, so you dont need ciphers or have to worry about last second hacks if the vault is being wiped
ive since been trying to get runtime for a sprint speed buff after hacking but been pretty unlucky with the drops and never motivated for more than a few runs at a time
how i wish i knew about that banshee cheese long time ago when i did those stealth tests, it would have saved me so much time and nerves
using ash fatal teleport is also a easy way to cheese killing eximises ( probs spelt that wrong)
since ya can stil do finishers on them but they are immme to cc with their over guard active
but ya can still use fatal teleport to do a finisher on them, which usually insta killes them even with over guard on them
Nother tip for jackal i use pretty often but dont see others do is the operator/drifter void mode can ignore the laser walls and your warframe will wont take any real damage it will still slam you across the room but its a quick void sling back to transfer for the finisher queues.
You can avoid the knockback with good timing on a transfer back to the frame.
You can now also use melee while in air as operator to instantly switch to warframe and do a melee ground slam under the jackal after it's stomp, if you are spamming x you will also cancel the slam before reaching the ground and be put into the jackal animation.
Limbo is the perfect index frame. If you lock down the deposit point all the enemies will come to you, add enemy radar to see them and use a high slash or high single target damage weapon to one shot index enemies. Have a second limbo to pickup the points and deposit them at literally no risk, use rolling guard to exit the cataclysm bubble and then dodge to enter the rift and just run to the enemies deposit
5:30 Fun tip for Wukong: Natatuk. If you equip it, your Celestial Twin _will_ spam it. No ammo issues.
Nataruk is still op af
2:38 I prefer using wisp with any weapon for this one. Her passive to go invisible while airborne makes it so that you could bullet jump and ground slam right in front of them and you'd be fine. Quick and easy, no sound or sight.
and then one of the other enemies sees you kill one of the others. better luck tomorrow
Use the skiajati with wisp and stealth kill everything
I remember using limbo to run specifically Pavlov-Lua
had to endure 80+ runs to get my Ivara chassis, 8-6 minutes a run. By the end i wasnt sure whos cheesing who
I Cheesed my junctions with Nyx and her Mind Control, all damage you do to a target while they are controlled will be inflicted when you ability ends. So just bring you highest damage weapon and keep bonking the mind controlled enemy until the ability ends XD
Yup. Been using Limbo for all spy missions, going on for years now. Clanmates were non-believers until I showed them my spy build with max range Cata-bomb, move speed, and Persipacity Helminth skill 🤣
I used limbo for spy missions until I picked up Infiltrate on Ivara. Limbo is good, but some vaults have things that limbo has to respect. Mostly Kuva vaults with their invincible cameras, but still
@@edschramm6757 yeah forgot to mention my Parazon has a mod that let's u become invisible after hacking
@@lanceandrew1319 I mean, I run that too, but if that times out in a bad spot, it's not great
For the jackal fight you can also just pop into operator form and enter stealth mode and the laser walls won't damage you
thats the real cheese
Alternative for stealth mastery challenges: bunny-hopping Wisp. Her passive is invisibility while airborne.
Alternative for spectres: Mag bubble. Make enemy projectiles work for you instead of against you and increase damage spectres receive.
I remeber cheesing the junctions on the normal star chart with mag, just popping her bubble on the specters and watching them kill themselves. I assume on steel path, it would work more or less the same, but now i have a mini nuke i can through in in the form of a small pistol or other random weapon
If you don't move as Iwara in invisibility for like an hour, you become completely invisible, no stardust effect. Happens to me a lot.
Bro why are you not moving in invisibility for an hour, a lot?
Junction spectres can also be cheesed by revenant with some strength. Mesmer skin and get hit or enthrall them and they become friendly. Reave through them and they die-
I like to refer to lategame as a "violence sandbox" with how crazy modding gets
Ah yes, I have a specific “Goal keeper Limbo” load-out for the Index, specifically for the NW mission that pops up sometimes
That Ash build has mad Vulcan vs Kurz vibes.
Finishers are so underrated. Millions of damage and several moves open enemies up to finishers.
Oh, the junction specters now have a boss title card. That’s pretty cool
Another way of cheesing MR tests that requires stealth is using Wisp and bunny hopping.
I'm not kidding, I managed to do those tests with her because of her passive of being invisible in the air.
I think the Wisp and Skiajati were left out On Purpose due to them being Unrealistic to Expect MR 8 Players playing through The Sacrifce Quest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Banshee is MR 0 and Redeemer is MR 4 so that's more realistic for the Average Tenno
I'd not thought about the Ivara tripwire trick...I do know you can wall latch above the lasers, and loki has bonus wall latch time...but there are a few nooks you can sometimes land upon and not fall...
Also i find it REALLY odd you didn't mention nullifier bubbles instantly pop limbo's catalysm, it makes limbo useless for corpus.
Not useless, but it requires more thought. Use a reduced range build just big enough to cover the defense target and hide in there - the Nullifiers usually won't pop it because their pistol attack has a far enough range to try and shoot you or the target without having to get close enough for the bubbles to interact with each other. When they do pop it, it's usually because they were jumping up or down to get to the target's level and 'accidently' bumped it.
It does make him incredibly vulnerable to Eximus, however. No reaction time or distance to see something moving through the rift and dump a full burst from a Laetum in that general direction. At least solo.
@@gork8468 Don't forget about vapos nullies who rush you with melee
@@Darthmufin I really hope they rework the nullifiers from being dumb kamikaze units, b/c currently that's all they are (with exception to the sniper who still uses this ai but sometimes hangs back)
I kinda also wish that DE would halve the nullifier bubble size & fix the current visual bug of the bubble not going away when popped.
It's designed to be cheesed but the Devs sure hate it when we do it
For the banshee cheese, Skiajati and Wisp are also usable.
Cheese
Edit: i'm glad you used the James May clip at the end
i cheesed junctions just by using vaubans explosive mines every second so the specter would be stunned, worked like a charm
You can also use Wisp for the MR 9 Test since her Passive ist still working
I had a hard time with the MR 19 test when I first took it, but I eventually found a way to cheese it: I used a Kestrel and loaded all the Projectile Speed mods I could on it (including it's Syndicate mod), along with Volatile Quick Return. I was able to complete the challenge easily by either one-shotting the Grineer from nearly across the map, or knocking them off the platform from Volatile Quick Return's explosion if the one-shot failed. 😅
Octavia is amazing for cheesing almost everything
And for the jackal just go operator form and stand directly below him in void mode when he does the laser walls, when he falls down sometimes you'll be popped directly up and back down to interact with him sending him to the next phase in record time
+1 for octavia. Her 1 and 2 just straight up short circuit enemy AI, which combined with teabagging to become see through makes nearly all content easy.
Wisp is my go-to cheese frame. Doing spy vaults? Your passive is undetectable to cameras (just don't bump into anyone), and her 2 can pass through barriers. All you need is a glaive to break any difficult cameras. Doing literally anything else? Health motes and jumping will give you space to heal, use silence if there's eximi, and worst case, use glaives or an exodia contagion zaw to slowly, but safely clear all the enemies (maggots from the infested glaive can use shock motes, too).
Also, Limbo + Silence. Yes, the Eximi can still move in your world of stopped time, but all you need is to turn off their powers, and be able to kill like 5 enemies max.
Another fun combo is Nidus + Hirudo. Before I figured out how to start modding for steel path, I went in with max health and range, and max crit. I gave up after 30 minutes because neither of us were dying.
That banshee strat for those mr test reminds me of the ranged melee plus whisp combo we used, cool to see this can also be done with one of the dojo frames.
One curious rhing iv notices playing fossa against jackal is even high mr players...tend to die sometimes at nightmare mode. Because they try to jump evading lasers or trying to take cover with pilars. And i havent seen anybody doing what I do, just parkour the wall and stick to it refreshing the spiderman once in a while. I dont pretend to sound the "smartest guy in the room" because I always learn something new or and mindblowing interactio.n in this game...its just curious
ivara doesn't just bring the cheese she brings the cheese string and parmesan as well
Revenant is a pretty good cheese frame too. Just cast mesmer skin and you're unkillable to almost everything and then you turn them into allies afterward allowing for free kills
Octavia in SP survival. You just sit there and everyone dies including the acolytes
I remember one shotting every junction boss , and then having my friend literally give me control so I could kill the bosses for them, and wondering why I was so much more powerful then they are. I then realized it's because I obtained condition overload, and had every status on my primary and secondary, I literally shot, they died or I exalt and they die. I had no i dea berserker (before the nerf) and condition overload would make a new player look experienced. Now I'm mr 26 and try to make hated frames viable and op. I'm proud of my rift torrent ensnare limbo. Actually made the boring game fun again. Revenant is just to op, I had to stop relying on being a god, those stats at the end of the mission had me feeling some type of way.
For the first thing revenant still stuns the specters with his mesmar skin meaning they literally cant do anything after they shoot you once and you could probably whittle them down with a mk1 paris if you wanted to. Also wisp still has her invis passive for the MR9 and 19 test and thrown melees and contagion zaws also dont alert enemies so you can jump above their heads and contagion them or just yeet your glaive at them.
Limbo truck doesn't work on Archont quest. Enemies just don't care that you in different reality. It also really annoying in normal gameplay since nulificators are everywhere, and they just pop your bubble.
For junction specters I just used my starter mag, cast magnetize and let them kill themselves.
got a riven mod that needed me to beat extermination without enemies triggering the alarm system, so i went to the void where they dont have alarms
This is a great video and funny enough is exactly how I play the game most of the time. My favourite cheese is to use the MIGHTY SEER and do anything
He actually says "Nothing personnel", i love it
i got through most of the gates with any warframe i had, loki helped the setup alittle bit more but in essence you grab the bo staff and knock the enemy up in the direction of the front window, once they land on the console they get stuck and after a couple seconds they get declared dead
my first time ever cheesing this game is the junctions. when i got rhino i accidentally learned how to push spectres off the junction room by luring them to the glass and charging to them
"Let's solve a practical cheese." was a missed opportunity. Still love your stuff!
As an Ivara main I knew you would put her last. Concentrated arrow also cheeses Liches and Sisters
Aldo Limbo 4, Xaku 4, and the neutron star (with nerfed range) can pop containers really far.
Warframe is basically a game about finding the cheese.
Could you make this into a series? im a big cheese Fan
You have a dog named gromit by chance ?
for junctions you can also just grab a polearm with a stance that guarantees knockdown, and just yeet them into the abyss
When he said that at 04:46, I thought it was a set up for a sponsor for a VPN
I usually combine operator's void immunity to do spy with limbo (cuz can be invisible and intangible to hack comouters while limbo stays on rift, even inside cataclism) and to avoid jackal laser or any thing like that by voudmoding
And if you combine Ivara with low energy cost with a Kubrow with Dig and Arcane Energizer, you can be infinite amount in the Prowl.
Since Dig has 270% change to give you energy orbs or what ever you might need, this is kinda funny to see.
Gunblades are silent already, unless they changed smth while I was away.
Yes, did the MR9 test just sometime during last month with some other frame and the Redeemer. While the sound effect makes your ears ring, the Grineer were oblivious to it.
unless they changed something, all melee weps are silent, even with redeemer unless they "nerfed" that at some point. it makes noise, but it never alerted the enemies according to the wiki
also side note, i tested this myself in the past and it never alerted.
@@Kakkoroto I did the MR9 test two or three weeks ago with either Nyx of Valkyr and the Redeemer. Although that weapon has a very loud sound effect, it didn't alert anyone.
@@Turjan_Miir well that's what i'm getting at, for years, the wiki has always stated that the wep itself while having sound effects to it has never actually made noise for the A.I. to hear. that is to say, it's not an alerting sound as melee weapons never had an alert status to them, so the A.I. is incapable of hearing something that isn't programmed in. probably an oversight on DE's end, but one that I hope they never discover if that's the case as they'll take a nerf stick to anything and everything without so much as play testing or feed back as they keep killing the fun aspect of the game in the name of "balance" imo.
31,5k daily Ostron rep grind catching wildlife using Ivara taking 8mins, add 2-3 min to it if u want to scan them on SP to get around 20k Simaris rep too. Fun activity, actually enjoyable for me and its efficient. (:
Even simplier: Just play Titania lol. The game was not designed with players having flight in mind. So many enemies and bosses just can't attack you, and even if they have guns you are smol and have boosted evasion, not to mention your flies distracting the enemy. Acolytes just have to stand there and let you shoot them.
Flying also bypasses a lot of environment balancing. That huge gap in some Corpus missions? Just fly over it. Any mission that requires wall running? Just fly over it. Ayatan Sculpture puzzles? Just fly over it. Dragon Key debuffs? Flying is still faster than bullet jumping.
I think at some point the devs said they regretted making Titania and I don't blame them.
@thekengineer on the jackal fight there's multiple spots on the edge of the arena you can stand that are above the lazer walls
Don't forget about birb aka Zephyr. She could evade any projectiles that comes to her body. Only for herself? No, it's for squad and objective too (Mobile Defense/Excavation/Defense with hostage). But don't decrease her range too much. While on Excavation sometimes i leave her on drill and i use Operator to pick up the battery.
Wisp with a Exodia Contagion setup solos the whole damn game. Perma Invis nukes? Teleports that bypass security lasers? Health regen to absurd amounts for any defense mission? Just lacks in trash mob clearing, but can 2 tap acolytes on a budget with some armor stripping
Before they seal shut the junction specter boss fight room, I could heavy slam them out into space and watched them freeze
you could even void dash into them in *spoiler mode, to knock them out of the zone.
I agree. The point of the game is to find the cheese.
its the point of life. like cheesing taxes
Thank you for this amazing video. Im gonna recommend this to every new player i come across. :D
Just spam heavy attacks at junction bosses. This method doesnt need mods, or specific warframes. When you need either of those 2, at that point its just a build and NOT a cheese.
I never thought of using the hunter frame to hunt smh
Ivara is my "can't be bothered" go to frame
I've actually done the stealth MR tests with glaive type weapons (I think Orvius being my favourite). Just the same with being able to attack at range, while also being fully viable for standard melee.
If you want to cheese leveling. Any Warframe that can put enemy to sleep is a good pick.
Then go to Ext Mission. Put enemies to sleep and kill them with a silent weapon.
This will generally only work with weapons but you have far more of them to rank up than Warframes.
Legendary rank one, where you just have to kill with primary, you can use your opperator when you die, do this with all the passives that you do more damage you can just not die in any way
Wukong has really been buffed since he first came out, I remember people hating his cloud form (I can’t remember if this was at the time when you could take out frames powers back when they were actually mods... damn this game has changed over the years.
Lua puzzles: the power test is rendered trivial with the operator. Same with the Jackal.
Like how whenever there's a specific weapon type only you often see excalibur, Titania ect. .
fun fact that last ivara cheese works on the Amar fight
Your videos always make me want to play the game.