No. Adding random ball mechanics to note playback is not helpful for the creation of music. It is adding to the rhythmic difficulty for no real advantage and considerably less precision.
As a drummer and a pianist of 14 years myself I couldn't agree more, that's the main reason I'm saving up for a decent mesh electric drum kit, cos with the other ones which are just a pad, as my m8 used to have one, even though I was playing in time, when played together I was out of time by a tiny fraction, and of course, that's not gonna work, I've gigged festivals in the band I used to be in, but unfortunately cos we were BLOODY GOOD,, unfortunately the guitarist had some very difficult mental health issues and needed help so the band had to end, but yeah, I couldn't agree more with your comment,!!
A decent music teacher with multiple kids would be able to help creating a simple rhythm, adding layers to make it complex.... Wouldnt take much I my eyes 🤷♂️
A room of kids with huge bouncing balls that make noise 😮 I consider myself a good music teacher, but nope! Besides our budget would let me buy one a year 😂
It's at best an electronic drum that you can control with much less precision and much more difficulty. Or really, an electronic squeaky dog ball. I have no idea why they got any offers at all. That's like the definition of a product that would be fun to play with, and then you get bored in five minutes tops.
I agree. I can’t see people using this for long, if they can turn it into a fad, it may make a lot of money for a short period of time but it won’t go beyond that.
I'm amazed they didn't have a decent sport juggler on - the possibilities for that are endless! An old-schooler like Mike Moschen could have done loads with this!
What a lot of people don't get in the comments is the fact they refused Deborah's deal not really for the 3 percent but rather because they wanted different investors. If it was Peter who offered them they 10 percent I guess they would've accepted that.
I have just bought one of these and they don't work. You have to take everything that is in your Bluetooth list and discard it, as it won't pair to your phone if anything else is on your paired devices, then it won't play sounds. Trying to get any customer support is near impossible, as I emailed the customer support 5 times, but was ignored until I left a scathing review on their app in the game store and then they didn't offer any real help. The things they tell you to do don't work and loads of the troubleshooting can not be done, as there is no way to do it, as neither my Samsung phone, Samsung tablet, or my sons Samsung phone has the things they tell you to turn on, or disable!! Honestly it's the most frustrating piece of rubbish invented. I've asked for a refund several times, but that is being completely ignored. They want you to pay almost £90 for something that just isn't fit to sell. If you are lucky to get them to work, then apparently they lag and have severe latency issues. I wish I'd checked out the reviews on the game store before ordering it, as they have dreadful reviews.
Just searched and can't even find where to buy one, no website or anything. Yeah they fkd up. Every proposal where a deal is struck you always see a great website, clearly successful product etc. This will go nowhere.
If you watch this, don't buy them. I bought three a month ago, to start on their web they say it takes between 5 to 7 days to arrive, it arrived after 15 days. And what's worse two of them no longer work (I only played them once!!!), I feel robbed
They didnt want Deborah on board, simple as that. I think refusing her offer was the polite way of showing that. Had Peter made the same offer they'd be all over it. It was not about the percentage.
They don't work. They don't pair with devices eg phone properly and then when you do get them paired for a few minutes, they don't play music. My son is autistic and has severe anxiety. I thought it would be a cool thing for him, but the problems with these just make them the most frustrating things you could give to anyone with mental health issues. I'm going to have to go through PayPal for a refund, as no amount of emails get a response from the company
Bloody hell why the blood hell did they bloody refuse???? Like if they went with Deborah,, that's a whopping 3%,,like bloody hell, as you can tell by the amount of bloody bloody's I'm using I'm utterly bloody shocked,, 🤔,, I mean I'm a musician, a drummer who has gigged festivals in the band I used to be in, I'm now in another, but we have only just got together, and a pianist of 14 years,, like I'm just BLOODY HEHEHEHE SHOCKED, I REALLY THINK THEY WILL LIVE TO BLOODY REGRET THAT,!!!!!
There are two (2) minor issues , 1. The deceiving video demonstration was way too short but promising. 2. They did not include the virtues of body exercise, dance and the health benefits with each use of an inertial musical ball. This would have showcased an added potential of happy user. 🐾
If they asked 7% for Debra and Tucca to share, they’d have gotten a great team and an office to boot 😂 crazy . Greed can be savage. 15% of millions is more than 100% of not much. That aside, tucca would’ve got it made cheaper and brought it down to a better price. They definitely need to work on their videos.
Yes I agree, when Deborah said "everyone has music in them" no,, hehe, no they don't, we all our talents, I'm a musician, drummer who has gigged festivals /pubs, and a pianist of 14 years,, but i struggle with changing a flat tyre, also a published poet, I'm Aspergic also so communication can be tricky, some people have no sense of rhythm, so these balls ain't gonna work for them,, and making a decent melody is harder than you think, so, yeah,, of course Deborah is completely entitled to her opinion, but of course I am also completely entitled to utterly disagree, take care man
I was bored with this product idea after watching them bounce it twice. Maybe it's different in real life, and maybe it's a huge seller, but ot looks boring to me and I love music and games.
This is ABSURD!... I just can't believe that NO ONE, neither the pitchers nor the potential investors saw the actual value and the path to take with this!!!... All they had to do was make deals with a few top notch musicians, so they'd use the ball when performing music!!! Just imagine Taylor Swift dropping a tune with that in one of her videos, and viola! I have no idea what happened with these guys, but the move they had to make just had to be presenting the ball as a "musical instrument", not a gimmick or a toy! How couldn't any of the dragons see THAT potential?!?
Yeah, I'll just call her up now. Hey Tay Tay, wanna bounce a shitty ball in one of your music videos for us? No??!!! I guess I'll just call the next biggest, richest artist on the planet then🎉
It's funny how they pedal the lie that there is no gap between non musician and professional, as I have been part of amateur musician groups for years.
@23sec in Deborah n Sara say mucical balls, I'm sure they had a few in there day Edit: during the whole pitch they said make musical balls n balls that can make me music numerous times🤣 funny shit
It's a complete fraud!... Neither do they have a singing voice not do they have other talent which could turn out to be a profitable business!.. . Not every freaking idea is successful!.....
I love the gay african dude. He is quite funny, but ruins the vibe of dragons den completley.Its supposed to be a serious show and not a platform for LGBTQ plus audience. Its a shame that divessity controls this amazing programme.
Are you referring to the dragon Stephen Bartlett? You do know he’s worth more than Debora Medan and Sarah Davies combined right? And he made his money in social media marketing which is arguably more relevant to business than the other dragons’ expertise. Business is about adapting with the times; having the same fossils sat in the chairs would pretty disingenuous.
Absolutely crazy not to accept Deborah.
They were very lucky to get the chance at 10%. I thought 20% would be a more likely offer.
They really blew their chance
No. Adding random ball mechanics to note playback is not helpful for the creation of music. It is adding to the rhythmic difficulty for no real advantage and considerably less precision.
As a drummer and a pianist of 14 years myself I couldn't agree more, that's the main reason I'm saving up for a decent mesh electric drum kit, cos with the other ones which are just a pad, as my m8 used to have one, even though I was playing in time, when played together I was out of time by a tiny fraction, and of course, that's not gonna work, I've gigged festivals in the band I used to be in, but unfortunately cos we were BLOODY GOOD,, unfortunately the guitarist had some very difficult mental health issues and needed help so the band had to end, but yeah, I couldn't agree more with your comment,!!
A decent music teacher with multiple kids would be able to help creating a simple rhythm, adding layers to make it complex.... Wouldnt take much I my eyes 🤷♂️
A room of kids with huge bouncing balls that make noise 😮 I consider myself a good music teacher, but nope! Besides our budget would let me buy one a year 😂
As a musician I agree - try just bouncing a ball to a beat - it’s harder than using a drum
It's at best an electronic drum that you can control with much less precision and much more difficulty. Or really, an electronic squeaky dog ball. I have no idea why they got any offers at all. That's like the definition of a product that would be fun to play with, and then you get bored in five minutes tops.
The ONLY reason they got offers was because of their sales in the 7months prior to filming. Think they said they were making 80k a month
I agree. I can’t see people using this for long, if they can turn it into a fad, it may make a lot of money for a short period of time but it won’t go beyond that.
My cats would love this. Lol
I'm amazed they didn't have a decent sport juggler on - the possibilities for that are endless! An old-schooler like Mike Moschen could have done loads with this!
They didn't want an offer...they wanted the publicity.....that all.
Meanwhile Jenny Campbell is at home screaming at the telly how this is exactly the thing she has been looking for for her portfolio. 🤣
lmfaooo
It always makes me laugh when Jenny talks about her "portfolio". I am like, does she even have at least two products to call it a "portfolio"? :))
They weren't there for an investment
10% was a great offer for the stage they are at with the business. It's nothing.
So what if this product is short lived, so we’re fidget spinners and the inventor is now minted.
They didn't want Deborah
What a lot of people don't get in the comments is the fact they refused Deborah's deal not really for the 3 percent but rather because they wanted different investors. If it was Peter who offered them they 10 percent I guess they would've accepted that.
Debra would’ve used Peters’s contacts anyway, so was foolish.
I have just bought one of these and they don't work.
You have to take everything that is in your Bluetooth list and discard it, as it won't pair to your phone if anything else is on your paired devices, then it won't play sounds.
Trying to get any customer support is near impossible, as I emailed the customer support 5 times, but was ignored until I left a scathing review on their app in the game store and then they didn't offer any real help.
The things they tell you to do don't work and loads of the troubleshooting can not be done, as there is no way to do it, as neither my Samsung phone, Samsung tablet, or my sons Samsung phone has the things they tell you to turn on, or disable!!
Honestly it's the most frustrating piece of rubbish invented. I've asked for a refund several times, but that is being completely ignored. They want you to pay almost £90 for something that just isn't fit to sell.
If you are lucky to get them to work, then apparently they lag and have severe latency issues.
I wish I'd checked out the reviews on the game store before ordering it, as they have dreadful reviews.
I could see these 2 were a couple of vvankaz just by the introduction prior to the pitch
Definitely should've got Debra on board.
Who?
iF THIS TAKES OFF i WILL EAT MY SHOES.
Eat your shoes then lol
Just searched and can't even find where to buy one, no website or anything. Yeah they fkd up. Every proposal where a deal is struck you always see a great website, clearly successful product etc. This will go nowhere.
I spilt spot remover on my dog, now he’s gone.
This is gonna be so short lived lol
If you watch this, don't buy them. I bought three a month ago, to start on their web they say it takes between 5 to 7 days to arrive, it arrived after 15 days. And what's worse two of them no longer work (I only played them once!!!), I feel robbed
Oh my god that demonstration video was so bad. Nathan Barley esque
Ahaha 'really annoying ringtooone'
Fk need to rewatch Nathan. Batley, cheers!
Foolish of them not to take Deborah's offer, I think.
Perty cool.
Had they had Bill Bailey do the demonstration, they would’ve had Peter Jones and Steven Bartlett. 😁
Super idea
"I am a pain in the arse. I am a pain in the arse"
They didnt want Deborah on board, simple as that. I think refusing her offer was the polite way of showing that. Had Peter made the same offer they'd be all over it. It was not about the percentage.
Did they say it made music? I just seems to churn out noise. Silly kids.
"What stops it from fizzling out?"
"Well the thing about our balls... "
I would sell it as a mental health product, WEF in Davos said the wellness industry is now worth over a trillion dollars
They don't work. They don't pair with devices eg phone properly and then when you do get them paired for a few minutes, they don't play music. My son is autistic and has severe anxiety. I thought it would be a cool thing for him, but the problems with these just make them the most frustrating things you could give to anyone with mental health issues. I'm going to have to go through PayPal for a refund, as no amount of emails get a response from the company
Throwing away dragon for 3% is wild.
what is it for?
Theses guys look like they are stuck in 80s
Bloody hell why the blood hell did they bloody refuse???? Like if they went with Deborah,, that's a whopping 3%,,like bloody hell, as you can tell by the amount of bloody bloody's I'm using I'm utterly bloody shocked,, 🤔,, I mean I'm a musician, a drummer who has gigged festivals in the band I used to be in, I'm now in another, but we have only just got together, and a pianist of 14 years,, like I'm just
BLOODY HEHEHEHE SHOCKED, I REALLY THINK THEY WILL LIVE TO BLOODY REGRET THAT,!!!!!
Odd ball s
Should have taken 10%
Wonder Peter did no ask why they were not wearing suits the prat
make i a fetch ball for dogs and a play thing for cats and children
There are two (2) minor issues ,
1. The deceiving video demonstration was way too short but promising.
2. They did not include the virtues of body exercise, dance and the health benefits with each use of an inertial musical ball.
This would have showcased an added potential of happy user.
🐾
If they asked 7% for Debra and Tucca to share, they’d have gotten a great team and an office to boot 😂 crazy . Greed can be savage. 15% of millions is more than 100% of not much. That aside, tucca would’ve got it made cheaper and brought it down to a better price. They definitely need to work on their videos.
Another marketing ploy!
Trivializes music.
Yes I agree, when Deborah said "everyone has music in them" no,, hehe, no they don't, we all our talents, I'm a musician, drummer who has gigged festivals /pubs, and a pianist of 14 years,, but i struggle with changing a flat tyre, also a published poet, I'm Aspergic also so communication can be tricky, some people have no sense of rhythm, so these balls ain't gonna work for them,, and making a decent melody is harder than you think, so, yeah,, of course Deborah is completely entitled to her opinion, but of course I am also completely entitled to utterly disagree, take care man
Well shite
Too kind
She had me at "musical balls"
Then the pitch started
Good creators, bad decision at the end 🤔
They could have got a dragon for an extra 3%. Fools.
Sara: I'm out.
Im looking for balls to make music
these guys are crazy for not accepting Deborah's offer.
Honestly, what is the point of Touker in this show? Constantly overvalues himself and gives outrageous offers.
I was bored with this product idea after watching them bounce it twice. Maybe it's different in real life, and maybe it's a huge seller, but ot looks boring to me and I love music and games.
Id like to play with that.
Deborah just loves the young guys......money to burn
It would be great in Starbucks but nowhere else thanks very much.
I think I agree with you.
Such an average idea.
Of all the ideas pitched to the Dragons, this was definitely one of them.
Putting music over the dragons test is a major fail! It simply makes NO sense.
This product would also be great for autistic people
This is ABSURD!... I just can't believe that NO ONE, neither the pitchers nor the potential investors saw the actual value and the path to take with this!!!... All they had to do was make deals with a few top notch musicians, so they'd use the ball when performing music!!! Just imagine Taylor Swift dropping a tune with that in one of her videos, and viola! I have no idea what happened with these guys, but the move they had to make just had to be presenting the ball as a "musical instrument", not a gimmick or a toy! How couldn't any of the dragons see THAT potential?!?
Lol!!! Taylor Swift isn't going to practice bouncing a ball for a month just to land a couple notes!
Yeah, I'll just call her up now.
Hey Tay Tay, wanna bounce a shitty ball in one of your music videos for us?
No??!!!
I guess I'll just call the next biggest, richest artist on the planet then🎉
It's funny how they pedal the lie that there is no gap between non musician and professional, as I have been part of amateur musician groups for years.
gay
@@prizma45 You don't have to discuss your sexuality with me.
Who's the wannabe gansta rapper dragon with all his jewellery?
This gay man keeps Argos in business for 12 months of the year. Ha.
@@rossgriffin5703 Are you the guy who keeps posting racial/homophobia slurs on every video?
Sara is annoying here because she dangles a possible investment and then says no. 👎🙄
Peter millions
I guess they don't want to make money
Its so boring after one bounce.
Is it patented?
Yessss so don’t try to rip it off in India
@@ButtrflyEffect it's not worth ripping off. No one will buy it here! Maybe YOU were thinking about it?☺️☺️☺️
@23sec in Deborah n Sara say mucical balls, I'm sure they had a few in there day
Edit: during the whole pitch they said make musical balls n balls that can make me music numerous times🤣 funny shit
I just don't get this product at all...
It's a complete fraud!... Neither do they have a singing voice not do they have other talent which could turn out to be a profitable business!.. . Not every freaking idea is successful!.....
I love the gay african dude. He is quite funny, but ruins the vibe of dragons den completley.Its supposed to be a serious show and not a platform for LGBTQ plus audience. Its a shame that divessity controls this amazing programme.
Ew. Go be a bigot somewhere else. UA-cam is supposed to be a place for videos, not a platform for ignorants like you.
Which box is the gay african dude in?
Are you referring to the dragon Stephen Bartlett? You do know he’s worth more than Debora Medan and Sarah Davies combined right? And he made his money in social media marketing which is arguably more relevant to business than the other dragons’ expertise. Business is about adapting with the times; having the same fossils sat in the chairs would pretty disingenuous.
@@mattsmith8031 he's on there because he's black and gay, pretty naive to think otherwise
Where is your source that he is gay? Oh yea, you don't have one.