Funny how Sony increased the price of the console this generation two times: first with a 50 increase, and then by reducing the overall bulk and materials they use while maintaining the same price. Ouch.
Over the past year and a half he has shifted toward accelerating his subscriber count. There has been a great increase in popular opinion mirroring for the sake of views and it’s working. Whichever way the tide is turning at the moment, he will be there nodding in agreement. It’s a pity too, the views and logical reasoning on many things expressed in older videos were much more respectable.
I'm gonna say it right now that I hate how he vaguely titles his videos to garner clicks, then you watch the video and it's so disappointing. Would be so much better if the titles were clear. I mean I watch other tech news channels and they all have more views despite having clear titles. So yeah for me that's the reason I'm not subscribed anymore and why I don't watch all his videos.
The new SSD control is actually a bit faster and more efficient. The new design may look and literally is cheaper to make but it’s optimized to compensate for the smaller frame.
For current ps5 owners these doesn't offer something new or substantial to move on to, but for a newcomer, yea, if you find these at a decent price, go for it
If Sony just reduced the distance between the dye and the cold plate of the cooler they wouldn't have to use so much liquid metal and they would drastically reduce the risk of spillage and pretty much totally eliminate the risks of hot spots and dry spots. They're basically just using it incorrectly which is why it is having issues. My main computer has had liquid metal between the IHS and the dye on my CPU for over 5 years and I've never had to replace it or had any hot spots develop. The temperature difference across all cores has remained at 4 degrees for over 5 years. Sony is just doing it wrong.
@@Mindwalker030 I have more years of experience using liquid metal than they do... and they clearly don't understand the concept either. You don't have to listen to me. Literally anyone including Spawn Wave will tell you they use way too much. Hell, buy a tube of liquid metal and read the instructions. It clearly describes the properties and how to correctly use it. Explicitly mentioning to use it sparingly so it doesn't spill 😂But carry on coping, Sony pony.
I'd rather see a Steam Deck Oled teardown. Now that's how you do a proper revision of a product. Kudos to Valve for getting that announced right before the PS Portal shipping out.
The modular disc drive is the best feature I’ve seen on a console in ages. So awesome to be able to upgrade a digital version. Also for easy replacement for broken drives.
Thank you for actually saying why there are so many screws. People just think sony is just trying to make it harder to repair. But with the heat being created, you don't want the solder or traces to break or crack
Thanks for physically showing us the full liquid metal system reveal. I'm receiving a Slim (Disc) in a few days and it's great to see what I'm getting with the heat system with this.
I'm not a big fan of the glossy and matte panels. But I do like the overall look of the new ps5. Probably just buy some aftermarket panels. The size really doesn't matter since I'm just going to put it on the shelf anyways. And I really like how everyone keeps tearing it down to its components just to cure my curiosity. And I do also like the removable disk drive. With the future in mind I'm sure eventually it's going to not work properly and I'll have to replace it. And the new PS5 disk drive would be the easiest to replace.
Picked one up last night to upgrade from my launch beast that’s been set up vertically for 2 years. I’ve had no heat issues and I’m semi-confident that Liquid Metal rumor has been put to bed. However I just like the look of this “slim” unit better plus, I get a little more storage and a free spidey game. Also, since I still have my OG ps5 box and it’s minty clean, I can sell it on marketplace for 400. So realistically, I’m like 100 bucks or so out of pocket for the upgrade.
Just realized the Sony shapes on the bottom side is so the console doesn't rest directly flat on the disk drive. Looking closely at it horizontally, it rests on those raised shapes
You would think they would cut a few dollars off considering it doesn’t have the stand anymore. Either way I recently picked up a second ps5 and decided to get the bigger one just because to me looks much better and the fact they’re discontinuing it.
I have both series x and recently got the ps5 slim, when ever I game on the ps5 you can hear the fan coil whine and its annoying at night because i can hear it from 3-5 feet away, while the series x is dead silent, but the dual sense is just too good.
@@imo098765Since 1998, I've been a fan of PlayStation, so while the Xbox news is great, I believe console wars are childish and we should have grown out of them by now.
Can confirm with the new height that the OG ps5 was a little too big to fit in my entertainment cubie, but the new one is only slightly larger then a ps4 which fits pretty comfy in there, so it's the right size for me. Still backwards compatible so going to consider getting one in the new year, maybe sooner if I can find a deal during black Friday. Will have to see.
Needing to log to the internet to use the disc drive is a terrible idea. After PS5 support/shop is taken down, there will be no way to use a new drive with the console. Important because many people want to keep their consoles for decades as they like playing on original hardware. What if their disc drive fails in 10 or 20 years time? RIP the entire console if they can not get a new disc drive to work. Well not entirely RIP, it just becomes a digital only console at that point . . . but only good for games already on the console/storage as the shop is long since dead at this point.
Thank you for showing the PSU in detail. It will probably help someone. I have a PS5 Slim from Japan that says 100V on it's case. I've bought it day-one and there is no info online can I use this revision with 220V outlet or not. I've disassembled my unit just to check the PSU label to confirm that it's also universal, like the one used in fat PS5.
Taking the seal off around the main chip is very brave and confident of you, even for those who are skilled, once you remove the foam protective layer it's permanently compromised, even if you put down your own glue I would never have it vertical ever again.
@@Enzed_ I don't doubt that I'm familiar with his past in repair shops n all, I to have done work like that but I'd love to see a video of him putting it back together to see how he reapplied the sealing material, working with thermal paste is one thing but liquid metal is quite another, I wanted to ask him if he ever had the PS4 Pro he used liquid metal on in a vertical orientation after but never got the chance to ask.
The OG PS5 is a behemoth. If I hadn’t bought the slim one, there was no way the OG would fit in my media cabinet horizontally. I would have had to keep it vertically standing next to my TV. I tried to see how the Slim looks in that configuration and it sticks out. I can’t imagine how much of a sore thumb the OG PS5 would have been 😅
I just noticed, in minute 7:43, the stands for the PS5 digital are not compatible with the PS5 with Blu ray, because the digital ones are in fact, shorter than the physical ones. So, you buy a PS5 slim digital, and later, you buy a PS5 Blu Ray, you have to also buy the horizontal stands? Do they come with the Blu ray? Does the white plastic with the eject button is included too? Seriously, that's bullshit, I wonder why Sony made that decision. Edit: grammar
What happened to the PS5 3D audio? I am on PC so may be out of the loop, in the early days there was a lot of talk of 3D audio and RT audio yet it's never mentioned now?
@@54356776Liquid Metal has better conductivity but it riskier than thermal paste because it can leak and destroy the electronics. Sony should go with thermal paste and 5nm process.
The PS5 original looked better than the "slim" out of the box. I was hoping Sony could have taken design ideas from the DBrand Dark Plate 2.0 which has my PS5 looking way nicer than it did stock
Don’t bother with the slim it’s made cheap and the panels are a pita to get back on if you have to take them off, If you can manage to find the original ps5 grab one while you can because they are being discontinued
This thing is going to be like the Wii all over again, glossy white plastic, but as someone that doesn’t have a PS5 yet, might pick one up once they make replacement covers
Held out on buying the phat and planning to get this soon! Hoping they'll make a special FF7R version 🤞🏻 (that or Japan might just get special plates again 😂)
Man, so glad you tested the stand vertically. I was worried it wouldn't work.
That caught me off guard and I laughed so much
I'm glad he left the legs in too. That was really necessary 😉
It took me 3 replays to notice but when i finally noticed it was funny as hell😂
@@daanyal6266u dumb ?
That vertical stand though 😂
*horizontal
Other teardowns have been online, but I've been waiting for THIS ONE. Great work, and very detailed, as expected.
Man i would have never guessed that the stand worked vertically, thanks for testing that out!
Lmao!!!
5:33 I love how in the side by side comparison the slim looks like an Alibaba knockoff
I thought the PS5 couldn't get any uglier.
These are some of my favorite Spawn Wave videos. I love the knowledge and breakdowns!
Funny how Sony increased the price of the console this generation two times: first with a 50 increase, and then by reducing the overall bulk and materials they use while maintaining the same price. Ouch.
It wasn't increased everywhere.
The bit you had seeing if the stand works vertically definitely got me
Best teardown I've seen done yet. Bigger outlets didn't go as far to give us a detailed look at the APU. Great work as always.
You should take a look next into why you don’t have a million subs already with all the quality content you’re producing
He needs only fans to get a million subs
Over the past year and a half he has shifted toward accelerating his subscriber count. There has been a great increase in popular opinion mirroring for the sake of views and it’s working. Whichever way the tide is turning at the moment, he will be there nodding in agreement. It’s a pity too, the views and logical reasoning on many things expressed in older videos were much more respectable.
@@commando21I mean...🤤
Many big channels regurgitate popular opinions.
I'm gonna say it right now that I hate how he vaguely titles his videos to garner clicks, then you watch the video and it's so disappointing. Would be so much better if the titles were clear.
I mean I watch other tech news channels and they all have more views despite having clear titles.
So yeah for me that's the reason I'm not subscribed anymore and why I don't watch all his videos.
Hopefully the disc drive board does get hacked. No reason for there needing to be online DRM on the disc drive.
The new SSD control is actually a bit faster and more efficient. The new design may look and literally is cheaper to make but it’s optimized to compensate for the smaller frame.
Great breakdown & teardown as usual Jon. Appreciate it. .
What an excellent size comparison for the box
Ahhh, without that IQue comparison I would have never been able to compare size. 😅
If only this existed back in the early 00's so many trips to a repair technician would have been saved.
It's a nice touch that the stand works horizontally and vertically.
Looks cheap, doesn't consume less wattage and the digital model is actually more expensive.
It's a good deal...for Sony.
Now name the positives instead of being angry bc there is way more positives than negatives.
@@aureliacortez3625 He did name the positive. It's a good deal, for Sony.
@@Crono1973Speaking facts
F*** Sony
$550 and they give you a plastic delivery pizza box support and a digital code. Shame on you Playstation. What a joke.
Bros expecting a solid gold ps💀💀💀
@@GeekyGamer412 Bro’s defending a billion dollar corporation’s horrible decisions
@@Packin-Heat I wish they didn’t look cheap though. I don’t love my original stand but it APPEARS sturdy. These do not. They appear cheap as possible.
@@ge0ne0 I’m not defending but go off broski
Can’t wait for Sony to release the ps5 super slim for 800 dollars with no power cord included
It will also come without side panels, you can buy those separately.
Can't believe that stand also works vertically! 👏👏👏
OK got me laughing with the "Yes the stand does work vertically" 😂
For current ps5 owners these doesn't offer something new or substantial to move on to, but for a newcomer, yea, if you find these at a decent price, go for it
Thank You for what you do. Your videos are always like a treat to look forward to.
If Sony just reduced the distance between the dye and the cold plate of the cooler they wouldn't have to use so much liquid metal and they would drastically reduce the risk of spillage and pretty much totally eliminate the risks of hot spots and dry spots. They're basically just using it incorrectly which is why it is having issues. My main computer has had liquid metal between the IHS and the dye on my CPU for over 5 years and I've never had to replace it or had any hot spots develop. The temperature difference across all cores has remained at 4 degrees for over 5 years. Sony is just doing it wrong.
Look at this pro over here, you should teach the hardware experts at Sony.
@@Mindwalker030 I have more years of experience using liquid metal than they do... and they clearly don't understand the concept either. You don't have to listen to me. Literally anyone including Spawn Wave will tell you they use way too much. Hell, buy a tube of liquid metal and read the instructions. It clearly describes the properties and how to correctly use it. Explicitly mentioning to use it sparingly so it doesn't spill 😂But carry on coping, Sony pony.
This makes me want to replace the liquid metal in mine and apply it the correct way
I'd rather see a Steam Deck Oled teardown. Now that's how you do a proper revision of a product. Kudos to Valve for getting that announced right before the PS Portal shipping out.
The modular disc drive is the best feature I’ve seen on a console in ages. So awesome to be able to upgrade a digital version. Also for easy replacement for broken drives.
"and yes I checked... The stand does work vertically."
Nice.
Thank you for actually saying why there are so many screws. People just think sony is just trying to make it harder to repair. But with the heat being created, you don't want the solder or traces to break or crack
Wow. Now that’s a choice. I’m so glad he showed how the layout would look.
Those stands look like something you would find at a dollar store. I would keep an eye on those if I had one.
Well since I don’t have a ps5 ima get the Spider-Man 2 bundle
They didn't move the eject button. They put a disc drive on the digital PS5, which obviously had no eject button.
Oh, I didn't think of that! You're a genius tbh lol
Thanks for physically showing us the full liquid metal system reveal. I'm receiving a Slim (Disc) in a few days and it's great to see what I'm getting with the heat system with this.
Would it damage the ps5 if I stand it vertically
Nice job, Jon. Very thorough.
I'm not a big fan of the glossy and matte panels. But I do like the overall look of the new ps5. Probably just buy some aftermarket panels. The size really doesn't matter since I'm just going to put it on the shelf anyways. And I really like how everyone keeps tearing it down to its components just to cure my curiosity. And I do also like the removable disk drive. With the future in mind I'm sure eventually it's going to not work properly and I'll have to replace it. And the new PS5 disk drive would be the easiest to replace.
Sweet, Thanks for the tareaway video
8:19 thank you for this important information, I really needed to know
You do the BEST teardown videos on UA-cam 👌👌
Picked one up last night to upgrade from my launch beast that’s been set up vertically for 2 years.
I’ve had no heat issues and I’m semi-confident that Liquid Metal rumor has been put to bed. However I just like the look of this “slim” unit better plus, I get a little more storage and a free spidey game. Also, since I still have my OG ps5 box and it’s minty clean, I can sell it on marketplace for 400. So realistically, I’m like 100 bucks or so out of pocket for the upgrade.
I’m so glad the stand works vertically too.🙃
Just realized the Sony shapes on the bottom side is so the console doesn't rest directly flat on the disk drive. Looking closely at it horizontally, it rests on those raised shapes
The bundles sure worked well for Sony because the PS5 slim sold out within 10 minutes of launch
The new system look very slick. I am loving it
(Unpopular opinion) it looks like a ps5, but smaller
8:18
"The stand does work vertically"
Waiting for that
You would think they would cut a few dollars off considering it doesn’t have the stand anymore. Either way I recently picked up a second ps5 and decided to get the bigger one just because to me looks much better and the fact they’re discontinuing it.
I have both series x and recently got the ps5 slim, when ever I game on the ps5 you can hear the fan coil whine and its annoying at night because i can hear it from 3-5 feet away, while the series x is dead silent, but the dual sense is just too good.
I'm still waiting for a PS5 I can have lying down in my entertainment center.
I wish the PS portal was able to just download the games avaliable on your PS5 and play them natively. No lag would be amazing.
Great video man. Love the tear downs
What about the PlayStation Portal? You gonna unbox that one too? It just launched yesterday.
I wouldn’t blame him if he didn’t waste the money on it lol.
I am excited to finally buy mine after waiting for the perfect size. I can now enjoy playing Final Fantasy 7 and the upcoming Rebirth. I'm thrilled!❤
Happy for you enjoy!
Whats funny the slim is bigger than the Xbox One VCR, yeah the chungus one we all laughed at is smaller. Its mad how big consoles are this generation
@@imo098765Since 1998, I've been a fan of PlayStation, so while the Xbox news is great, I believe console wars are childish and we should have grown out of them by now.
I would love to see a custom shell that makes the ps5 a rectangle, that way it could sit flat and look batter
Like many have said already I was looking forward to your breakdown cuz I know you take a deep deep dive! Nice work!
Can confirm with the new height that the OG ps5 was a little too big to fit in my entertainment cubie, but the new one is only slightly larger then a ps4 which fits pretty comfy in there, so it's the right size for me. Still backwards compatible so going to consider getting one in the new year, maybe sooner if I can find a deal during black Friday. Will have to see.
Just got my slim with spider man 2. The smaller size was a big selling point since i kive in a dorm
I noticed that the slim doesn't have a USB port like the other one does.
???
Yes it does
I kinda prefer the look of the original, the slim looks like a cheap knock off that has illegal ROMs loaded on it
Why did they move the HDMI port up so high and not near the power port like the OG Ps5 ??
I still play my PS3 Slim and I always have noticed a popping sound from the flexing board
It's weird, that nobody notices that they are not using Panasonic HDMI controller anymore, but other from Nuvoton.
Is that good or bad? 😅
Is there any performance or quality difference?
I doubt it's worse quality. But probably cheaper to get vs Panasonic which is brand.@@coffeedudeguy
Needing to log to the internet to use the disc drive is a terrible idea. After PS5 support/shop is taken down, there will be no way to use a new drive with the console. Important because many people want to keep their consoles for decades as they like playing on original hardware. What if their disc drive fails in 10 or 20 years time? RIP the entire console if they can not get a new disc drive to work. Well not entirely RIP, it just becomes a digital only console at that point . . . but only good for games already on the console/storage as the shop is long since dead at this point.
The stand does work vertically! 😂😅
Thank you for showing the PSU in detail. It will probably help someone. I have a PS5 Slim from Japan that says 100V on it's case. I've bought it day-one and there is no info online can I use this revision with 220V outlet or not.
I've disassembled my unit just to check the PSU label to confirm that it's also universal, like the one used in fat PS5.
So how woukd a digital version sit horizontally without the disc drive ?
My old friend was saying that 3D audio is something new on this PS5 😅 people some times ready something online and say its new
John from spawnwave, the only content creator who goes ahead and buys a new Playstation 5 slim and decides to refurbish it. Whatta guy
Taking the seal off around the main chip is very brave and confident of you, even for those who are skilled, once you remove the foam protective layer it's permanently compromised, even if you put down your own glue I would never have it vertical ever again.
Jon used to repair consoles he's very much a pro at this now, I think his ps5 will still be fine.
@@Enzed_ I don't doubt that I'm familiar with his past in repair shops n all, I to have done work like that but I'd love to see a video of him putting it back together to see how he reapplied the sealing material, working with thermal paste is one thing but liquid metal is quite another, I wanted to ask him if he ever had the PS4 Pro he used liquid metal on in a vertical orientation after but never got the chance to ask.
I hate how the disc drive sticks out and makes a hump. Does not look sleek at all.
Its already been tried that you can register the disc drive to several ps5's
The OG PS5 is a behemoth. If I hadn’t bought the slim one, there was no way the OG would fit in my media cabinet horizontally. I would have had to keep it vertically standing next to my TV. I tried to see how the Slim looks in that configuration and it sticks out. I can’t imagine how much of a sore thumb the OG PS5 would have been 😅
I just noticed, in minute 7:43, the stands for the PS5 digital are not compatible with the PS5 with Blu ray, because the digital ones are in fact, shorter than the physical ones.
So, you buy a PS5 slim digital, and later, you buy a PS5 Blu Ray, you have to also buy the horizontal stands? Do they come with the Blu ray? Does the white plastic with the eject button is included too?
Seriously, that's bullshit, I wonder why Sony made that decision.
Edit: grammar
What happened to the PS5 3D audio?
I am on PC so may be out of the loop, in the early days there was a lot of talk of 3D audio and RT audio yet it's never mentioned now?
Why Did they stop showing games on the back of the box?
The liquid metal thing is the first time I've seen a company double down on its mistakes.
Ignorant 😂😂
What mistake ?
@@54356776Liquid Metal has better conductivity but it riskier than thermal paste because it can leak and destroy the electronics. Sony should go with thermal paste and 5nm process.
@@wilmanflores5772 Test your PS5 in the vertical position yourself, then touch grass.
@@54356776 He said it himself that units have malfunctioned due to the liquid metal melting, because of how much they put in it.
I’ve never used a stand when using my PlayStation consoles vertically and I never will
The PS5 original looked better than the "slim" out of the box. I was hoping Sony could have taken design ideas from the DBrand Dark Plate 2.0 which has my PS5 looking way nicer than it did stock
I do wish Sony would focus less on console revisions, and more on games.
They are every first party they own are making 2 games each you can't have games release every year
We saw it right here folks the stand does indeed work vertically 😂
😲 Thursday Tech Wave 🌊
I have the digital edition. Suppose I gave mine to a family member for christmas, should I purchase the slim disc version or OG disc version?
Don’t bother with the slim it’s made cheap and the panels are a pita to get back on if you have to take them off, If you can manage to find the original ps5 grab one while you can because they are being discontinued
Im wondering, does this include both disc and digital or only disc?
do all the 3rd party nvme heatsinks fit?
This thing is going to be like the Wii all over again, glossy white plastic, but as someone that doesn’t have a PS5 yet, might pick one up once they make replacement covers
That vertical stand looks nice
I wheezed at the vertical stand
That was great. Thank you. I will get one eventually.
won't be able to hook up the psvr2 on the slim
Hahaha the stand does work vertically
Thank you for the vertical check with the stand one less thing to worry about 🤣🤣🤣🤣...
Fantastic Teardown Vid Jon(SW).
The PS5 Slim isn't a nice looking System but it is very functional and I would say User Friendly aswell.
What firmware version for the ps5 slim ?
Held out on buying the phat and planning to get this soon! Hoping they'll make a special FF7R version 🤞🏻 (that or Japan might just get special plates again 😂)
Bought a crucial 2TB SSD over the summer and a Chinese heat sink, has worked great so far!
What’re the read speeds thinking about buying it?
I need one for my PS5. That's my only complaint. It needs a bigger drive. But it keeps cost down. Other than that I love PS5
@@GeekyGamer412 don’t remember but I got either the p5 or p5 plus
@@lemonlime8949 bet bet
I love that it comes with a first party Microsoft game.
I thought the new one didn’t have a disc drive?
Does it boot without the disc drive?
I will wait for the ps5 pro and hopefully Dolby Vision, the HDR just isn't good enough or the VRR.