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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- The rare Stadium Events NES game was discussed in detail in an article on ESPN.com
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"Stadium events, whch as you know, was rebranded as.." *GHOSTS 'N GOBLINS logo fades in*
if stadium events was ghosts n goblins that would legitimately make it good I hate how nintendo makes shit expensive on purpose by doing shit like that, they just did that with game and watch, that makes me go "I'm not collecting this shit if they're making it collectible on purpose"
It would be so satisfying if they found in some warehouse 100 pallets of NES stadium events sealed cases and they decide to mass sell them.
even better if it was like target, lol
I don't think Pat really cares, his main income isn't coming from reselling his collection. Hes a collector. And his collection is complete.
And that might actually happen, IIRC there's one dude who has 2 6 game cases of it sealed.
well then it wouldn't be rare anymore and there'd be no esteem for owning it, it would just be a generic track game.
He has said it a few times he sells them for a little less than other people do.
All this does is attract more scum bag scammers to the retro game market.
when I saw this article pop up on my phone the other morning on my Google Now cards I was already wanting to beat my head against my brick fireplace knowing this might be the result of the article, with the sports collector assholes reading it since it's on ESPN, and thinking it's just something they can make even more money off of that they don't really give 2 shits about. *SIGH*!!!!
***** That's a very good valid point as well with both being to blame, but if we can cut off the scumbag sellers then that means there are not games for the scumbag buyers to grab up.
As long as people pay high amounts and there is a market to make money they will keep on coming. People whos desperate to have an item and actually pays is the cause for this.
I place my bets on it being in some bandai warehouse
Nagifan7496, me too.
Do you think Stadium Events will be worth as much as Detective Comics #27 or a Honus Wagner card one day? What do you think happened to the unsold game copies?
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Who knows? There are some people that are willing to break the bank, and loaded, so it's possible... I would rather pick up an NES Classic for retail price, and have enough money left over to buy a warm meal.
I think you are partly right about games not getting there in 20 years. I think it will be more like 50 years. Super hero comics have been a thing for right at 100 years. Baseball cards more like 150 years and feature people most people have never heard of yet these still get huge prices. They aren't as popular as like Batman or Superman either. So video games starting in the 60's/70's I think around 2070 something like Stadium Events might get up there but not 20 years.
Jd Combs I agree. Plus, think about it, rare comics, collectible cards and the like are rare partly because paper is fragile, so how many copies of [insert rare comic from like 50+ years ago] are still in decent shape? I mean, a video game cartridge takes actual effort to FUBAR even with moderate use while paper things (like comics, books, cards etc) often fall apart due to age alone if not stored correctly, so it's a lot easier to accidentally reduce the damage of a game than say a comic or a baseball card (not counting throwing out boxes and manuals anyway). Besides, even boxes and manuals have a better chance of being in decent shape than things like comics because a high value comic (or collectible card) could concievably be over a century old while even the earliest, most obscure video game cartridge won't be more than like 40 years old at this point.
Pat the NES Punk i agree they male millians and they wouldnt all be created
No fuck you! X 100 (that's IF we're gonna be extra childish about this).. I want to get my hand on those games to play. honest.
I will forever love Tim Atwood for inspiring Pat to give us the greatest SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAALLLLLLLED ever. Hahaaaaaa
In the original Tim Atwood video to be clear, the one in this video is solid, just not as glorious as the original lol.
lol Damn Pat call James over to finish that level for you.
lmao thats a good one
Better call Mike, James is really not that good at most games.
Souper13 James beat this game for the episode he did
Souper13 James to Ghost and Goblins is Bootsy to Battletoads.
I'm going to laugh so damn hard if Bandai ends up going all "Oh, here's 5,000 sealed copies of Stadium Events. Let's put them in the wild". Anybody who's a real collector will either not care or be glad that more people will be able to work towards completing their collection.
I keep checking in to see it Ian is back...Pat talking to himself isnt the same.
Man I'd love to see an interview of Tim or someone like him to find out what got them into collecting so early and how they went about it. Things were so much different before the internet made finding information about availability so easy.
Ian needs to come back right before the xmas day CU podcast as a pleasant surprise for the viewers... it'd be a nice gift. haha
get well soon man
it just breaks my heart that I'll never get some rare games worth 4 figures let alone 5. but in my short time the market has gone up a bit. but I love collecting for me and have fun
Ian must have been snoodled by Pat.
Why the hell is Ghosts & Goblins playing thru this?
I'm in Michigan. I remember seeing stadium events at woolworths. My mom worked there and I would look at the nes games waiting for her to get off of work. One day she decided to buy me a game but it had to be a cheap one. I had my choice between stadium events or ikari warriors. I went with ikari warriors. My guess is they were clearance out and what ever remained was thrown in the garbage.
Hey Pat, I totally agree with everything here. I sort of believe that, in 2090, the history from 100 years earlier (1990) just won't have the same value or rarity factor as something from 1910 (such as a Honus Wagner card) has today. We're far more aware of that stuff now, and that Honus Wagner card had to live through multiple wars, a depression no one watching this channel could even imagine, and a complete dearth of information until the internet. Part of the intrigue of Honus Wagner is that there's so much mystery around it; production, quantity, etc. Some of that exists with Stadium Events, sure, but nowhere to the level of Honus, nor will it be easy or likely for any similar collector's item to have ever again.
my local game store here in Charlotte (save point video games) just had a stadium events brought in to the store last week. They were the store that verified the one that lady found 4 years ago.
"My favourite game to talk about" But it's stadium events pat, not Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat!!
greed in videogame collection shouldn't go hand and hand but it does sometimes
referring to the floor mat. I know a lot of brand new mat/game sets were sold from France last year (or the year before) via ebay, if i remember right they were £179 each and were PAL B. hey had been uncovered in a distribution warehouse, so it just goes to show that there are still some out there, finding them depends on when a warehouse needs the space!
Shit some people think Pat is too cocky
but that just helps give him the ability to call out cocky assholes who think they have a fortune
I love it when he calls these people out! The Feels
Pat's collection ( from what I have learned ) is amazing. He is also a funny guy, but he seriously needs to take it easy on the caffeine ! :D
saw the article last week, was a fun read
I was hoping you'd talk about this. I get espn magazine and saw your quote in it. It's weird being in espn and all but I enjoyed the article and seeing your name Pat. It was like "I know that guy!!" even though I dont haha
Seems that these pads are more common in Europe. I could find these all over the place a couple years ago.
Every German toys r us and simmilar stores in 89-91 had a "Athletic World" test setup for it and a huge health insurance company by the name of BAMER had one setup per store, too.
These alone would make ~1000 pads.
The orthodontist already sold the game. He was in the documentary/movie Nintendo Quest where he sold the second copy to the collector making that movie
And 5 years later we've already seen games go in excess of 500k.
Thanks for the coverage pat!
There is some good that came out of this. Someone who previously owned a video store found a copy of stadium events and it's in the hands of a collector on nintendo age. Take with that what you will.
Very interesting about the information from Howard Phillips.
I literally just watched a documentary on amazon prime about a collector trying to buy all the nes games. I bought Todd’s 1st copy he mentioned that had the year in the back cover. Small world
with companies recieving a sendback or recall issue. the workers either threw em in the trash or decided it was good trash and took em home.
Exactly - people seem to think of "rarity" as being the same thing as "social relevance"
Stadium events will never hold the same level of "social relevance" as Batman, so eventually the price will kinda top off to what the niche collector market is willing to pay for its "rarity"
Well put as always Pat!
I remember seeing SE at KB once. However, I don't ever recall seeing the original pad though
That orthodontist you mentioned sold it he appears doing it on Nintendo Quest documentary
That guy did sell his other copy. It was all in the Nintendo Quest documentary
Watching that right now lol
The future of video game collecting is really a mystery. Prices might crash instead of rise as collectors get old and die off and younger generations don't care about things like the NES. Not to mention there will come a time when these ROM chips simply die and the games will be paper-weights,
Christopher Blair i think they will crash eventually
Just look at the 2600 and early Atari games collector market. It was the "hot" thing and now most of the stuff is cheap. It seems like the NES will follow a similar path.
Christopher Blair Banana
Christopher Blair Believe me, the kids will carry on its value. You would be surprised on how many kids, specifically nintendo fans, love retro games. Retro collecting will not grow but it will stay stagnant, when the old die, the young will take over but it won't grow past its peak a few years agom
I remember going into a Fred Meyer store when I was a kid and seeing about 8 copies on the counter, with other various items... I asked the guy at the counter if they were on clearance, thinking they were probably like Konami Track and Field and was told no it is a game that we are no longer able to sell, not sure what was done with them, but I know they would not give me one, I had no clue what they were or would become, I was just hoping to get a free game when he said they couldn't sell it, this was in Boise, Idaho, sorry I can't tell you more, but I can say they were at one time on the shelves at that particular store for a time, and were pulled from shelves, and treated as any other item that was pulled at the time, so my guess is a lot of copies ended up in dumpsters because of company policies, surrounding items they can no longer sell. The only reason I remember it was that game is because it led to a conversation about the power pad, and that was something that sounded really cool to me at the time.
Is that Joker in the thumbnail holding the game? "My prices are like me.. crazy, insane."
Pat, love your idea to find out what happen to that dam game, and why we got limited numbers floating around!
I hope Stadium events becomes the next Caltron 6 in 1. It probably won't, but I hope it does.
Keep it up Pat, always interesting and enjoyable content. Thank you.
More gameplay more often please
If only Pat knew what 2021 will hold. 1.6m for a Mario 64 would have caused a heart attack for 2016 Pat!!!
Could you make still image smaller so we can better see the gameplay?
You know how some dude ate a complete plane. My bet is that someone ate most of the stadium events and is currently trying to get his teeth in the last remaining ones. Of course, plastics and electronics are pretty hard and the only way to hide this conspiracy would be with frequent dental work... Weird how an orthodontist coincidently bought a few.
"I'm keeping it real!" I love it when Pat goes street. If Ian was here he would not have let that slide.
LOL tim atwood looks like the angry video game nerd in 30 years
i get the urge to make a perfect repo label of stadium events buy a $3 sports cart and apply label and then gut the cart and stuff a raspberry π zero in it. just for the joy of someone seeing it. ;)
Only 200 copy let out to the public. A good 45% of them broke or thrown out. that price range could be possible. Pat under
selling video game collecting. Everyone knows that collecting something doesn't make you rich right away, but I'm pretty sure people do there homework before selling or buying collectibles. He keeps going on about Ebay like it's the end all be all of price guiding. It is not. The story that read is about someone that got lucky and got help by a old video game and that's a good story. Does it make go and buy every NES game out there in the hope have the same luck? Fuck no because I'm not an idiot.
"Only 200 copy let out to the public. A good 45% of them broke or thrown out. that price range could be possible." *No evidence* of that - that's the point of the article.
I've been going to about 8 thrift stores a week and I've never seen the pad or stadium events. and I've been going for about 20 years.
8 shme your doing it wrong
Have you been going to the conventions or checking online as well?
Feeding the trolls My local thrift stores don't have crap. The best thing I found was a Sega Nomad for $10.
No I like the thrill of the hunt. I've never seen the original power pad or events game .it would be like finding fine art it just doesn't happen. she got lucky.
I found a snes for 3 dollars at a goodwill one time my best find sofar.
"If I ever want to have kids..." But you already have a kid. It's 436 pages long.
And really, I'd argue that mail order NTCS games are rarer than shit like stadium events. Power Strike for the master system, for example, would be pretty rare.
I had this game as a kid
Pat, surely you have some insight into the profitably of producing a NES cart back in the day. Knowing Nintendos licensing fees, as well as the cost to produce these carts, and assuming a shoestring budget for development, how many Stadium Events would Bandai produce in their initial run? What's your guess for how many exist? 1000? How do you arrive at that?
(If Tim was watching) Hey Tim great to see your okay!
Shit, imagine if it did come out that there were like several thousand Stadium Events units in a warehouse somewhere. I just wanna see the reactions of everyone on Nintendo Age in slow motion. You know, savor the moment. Just slabs of boxes filled with un-shipped or returned units, covered in dust and lost in the annals of time.
Save Point, the video game store in Charlotte that purchased Stadium Events just had another person walk in and sell them another one. They boasted about it on their fb page. Not sure if it's the same cartridge circling back or a different one.
I used to play this game as a kid at my friends house. We would cheat and use our hands on the mat. Good times. Can't believe its worth so much these days.
i remember there being a copy of stadium events at the video store i went to as a kid, oh what I'd give to go back and get it. probably ended up in a landfill sonewhere
Nice! Thanks for making this a topic!
Great point, Pat! People forget why something becomes collectable in the first place: history and desirability.. rarity is created by desirability: people who own, covet and WON’T part with their item thus making it hard to find. Quantity or lack there of DOESN'T constitute collectability. While i will agree that educated guesses on how many Micky Mantle cards survived to this day considering that many kids bought cards for the chewing gum DOES weigh in on the value, Micky was a great Hall of Fame baseball player. Add to that the huge market for baseball card collecting and you see WHY a Micky Mantle rookie card is so valuable. The limited examples only contribute part of the value : THEY DON'T DICTATE IT... Stadium Events , on the other hand, SUCKS. It is rare because production was haulted. There were no orders for it so the game was scrapped: NOTHING GREAT ABOUT THAT... the fact that its a SHITWARE game with no decent gameplay that was made to peddle that stupid mat kills any value it could have had. .. its monitary value is created by collectors: NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT THE GAME...
I just found a Family Fun Fitness CIB (pad and game CIB) this weekend for $40 at a local game store. They clearly had no clue what they had. It didn't have Stadium Events, but Athletic World CIB. This might be my best find in the wild, but I have no idea what they are worth if anyone knows. Not going to sell it, but just curious on my prize. Been looking, but haven't found much... even found an old post by Pat on NintendoAge.
Nicky Nooch eyes in the sky / bird's eye view
The FFF pad used to sell on ebay anywhere from $50 to ~200 depending on condition. AW is what, a $10 game loose ? You might get $250 if its in great shape and you find the right buyer, but you might not even get your $40 back out of it if the interest has dried up. Seeing as how you got it at a game store, i'm thinking the latter is the more likely scenario.
Oh well. I'm hanging onto it anyway. I just never see these in the wild, so I thought it might be a find. I know the AW with the "family fun fitness" on the top is a little more rare than the other version. Still a cool addition to my collection!
Definitely cool and I would love to have one too just for the fact the FFF stuff is an interesting piece of NES history. For $40 I think you snagged a good deal.
This is a good example of how interest in the overall NES market may be waning, especially now that the speculation is beyond ridiculous. 4 years ago a FFF pad would bring over $100 on ebay and a CIB AW could bring $80, now you can find both CIB in a game store for $40.
Pat sounds like he has a gun held to his head when speaking lol
Any updates on Ian's health issues? Hope he gets well soon
Why is Ghosts'n'Goblins playing in the background? lol
Hehe Found the West German PAL Stadium Events lose for 7€ on a Fleamarket 2 Years ago! Sold it to a Canadian!
great episode
He probably died of starvation waiting for that sandwich
Pat, keeping it real. Giving the people what they want.
I just found a Family Fun Fitness CIB (pad and game CIB) this weekend for $40 at a local game store. They clearly had no clue what they had. It didn't have Stadium Events, but Athletic World CIB. This might be my best find in the wild, but I have no idea what they are worth if anyone knows. Just curious on my prize,. Been looking, but haven't found much... even found an old post by Pat on NintendoAge.
Wow so I learned there are two stadium events here in Indiana
Stadium Events: the most expensive video game label ever.
Last gamer " all your base belong to us"
So there are ten thousand of these somewhere....
Why do some copies I see of Stadium Events have that white border at the bottom of the label like the one shown in this video and then some don't have it and both are real with value..
ys ghost and goblins plaing in back ground lol
Why ghosts and goblins in the background, why not stadium events? lol
Plus that Wagner card is over 100 years old. Look at the prices of the card in the 70's early 80's. It was maybe 10 grand then. So like Pat said we'll be dead before these games ever hit that price level.
I have one of those fitness pads. Are they worth someone without the game?
I found one a goodwill for 1.99 the other day. Sold it for 12k plus trade
do you still have your nwc carts Pat?
it takes you like 3 hours to unscrew a cap to a bottle
This boils down the basics of collecting. The only way any of these will be worth anything, is if video game fans of tomorrow will give a shit about what came before, and whether many of them with more money than sense will want rare items just because.
That's pretty much it. I've been a toy & pop culture collector for 20+ years. Heavily into Star Wars. A vinyl caped Jawa on the card is worth thousands and thousands. I don't give a shit and I'm a collector, but enough people do. Fast forward 30 years and will kids today still care about Star Wars? Will they care about toys in general?
The culture of collecting was intimately tied w/ comics and cards at an early stage and lasted for generations. Video games have never clicked with their user base as a "collectible" item. Yes, there are collectors, but there are collectors of anything. So without that same kind of connection, this shit will likely be worth much, much less as people who remember NES die off.
Or maybe 3 multi-billionaires will be game collectors and will bid millions for it. *shrug* But the odds are it will become worthless
Pat you should look up "snoodling" in the urban dictionary xD
ESPN is struggling for life.
Yeah someone has a Stadium Events complete but not sealed on ebay for 65,000....good luck with that.
watch it be found in some warehouse one day
I love this video your rant is so funny and awesome
pat where did you get his contact info? ive been trying to throw him a pm.
I like you pat, you're always on the offense
Yea we need Ian
Pat I know that when you say it's never gonna get that expensive but come 2036 someone's gonna quote you on that
Let's hope it doesn't get that expensive
The people on the ship carrying the game got pissed and threw it overboard. Case closed. Source: Japanese friend.
why aren't you playing Stadium Events footage? Ghouls and Goblins is throwing this video off.
hey pat just FYI the PlayStation 2 is the best selling system of all time
i like your rainbow keyboard pat c:
I thought it was a pretty interesting article as an outsider to the NES collecting world.
What is Stidiumivints?