Wow. Not only is the figure skating section terrible, it's also set to the slowest, saddest version of "Waltz of the Flowers" I've ever heard in my life. It sounds like HAL 9000 shutting down at the end of _2001: A Space Odyssey_ .
I'm not a member of any collector community by any stretch, but instantly recognizing the reference at the start and why it was used in this episode still gave me a (1) warm fuzzy feeling.
Whoa. I had no idea there were boxes for Mario/Duck Hunt/Track Meet. I thought it was like Nintendo World Cup/V'Ball or Mario World/All-Stars, where there were only pack-in copies that came as just a cart with manual, no box. I learned something today!
I don't think there were. I'm guessing that's a mock-up so that it can look nicer on the shelf, like ones that can be found for Slither for Colecovision that came with their roller controller. I looked on eBay and some are called "Re Pro" boxes.
World Class Track Meet was a pretty big source of family strife during my childhood, especially when one person would quietly press down on the back two Side A sensors while the other person attempted a long jump. If I were to catalog every fight I ever had with my older brother, I'd say at least 85 percent of them were Power Pad related.
Ooh, that happened to me. On the other hand, you could step off the mat instead of jumping, watch tour avatar leap a superhuman distance, and step back on to land.
@@DrCorndog1 Is that not how you were supposed to do it? I definitely jumped off to the left and tapped my right foot on the 1 pad when I wanted to land. Tap it a few times in a long rhythm for the triple jump lol
I like that they put the noise I make whenever I want a cat to come towards me across the bottom of the screen for that speed skating game, nice touch by Epyx
According to Wikipedia, that is the programmer's soul (trapped eternally in the programming code as a curse for their work here) crying out for the merciful release of True Death
Turns out for Figure Skating, you basically HAVE to read the instruction manual to have any chance. The instruction manual tells you exactly how to perform each move, stick the landings, and how the scoring system works.
I remember seeing a copy of stadium events as a kid at our Meijer store. I was super into the power pad and had World Class Track Meet that was bundled with it. I remember going to Meijers and seeing it and thinking about buying it because I thought I was a different game for the power pad. I never did buy it but for some reason seeing it in store sticks with me to this day. I really wish I would have bought it now lol.
Augh! I'm pretty sure I saw it at the Ionia location when I was a teen. I know I saw the game with the camp events. If only I knew then what I know now...
I remember the local video store had a copy of Stadium Events, I'll bet it ended up in their sale bin at some point and more than likely in the trash eventually.
The trick to world-class track meet as a kid was just making very fast baby steps, or at least that is how I remember beating cheetah as a kid. I recall at a sleepover one night all the kids trying to find ways to exploit using the pad for the long jump. Jumping off the pad entirely than jumping back on, doing a jumping jack, stuff like that
@@OmegaDez People demanded a ROM dump of Bio Force Ape, so some pranksters created an elaborate hoax, with screen shots that seemed like they could be real... until one of the characters blasted away half the onscreen graphics with a fart. The real game eventually was posted online, but the scary thing is that it's not any less strange than the hoax. O_o;
Athletic World's retrospective gameplay capture, complete with exhausted performance of an 80s montage classic, is Jeremy's magnum opus World Class Track Meet will always be a sentimental favorite because it was the ONE game our parents would allow us to hook up the NES willingly (otherwise, we were capped at one hour, one day a week), since it was something all four siblings could play and played honestly, was a pretty good indoor workout for a kid. So it slid under the technicality of being something to do together and involve moving. Why I have THREE copies of this game today, I have no idea
Stadium Events sounds like an "overly fancy" joke name you'd use for a game that was actually called "Field Games" or something. "Yes, I enjoy listening to Strange Albert, drinking Elevated Peak Condensation, watching General Issue Joseph, and playing Stadium Events."
As a kid, I somehow figured out (during the long jump) that jumping off the power pad and jumping back on at the last second made it possible to post ludicrous distances 😂😂
Wait, on the World Class Track Meet title screen it says "Side B" in the corner... was that game a sloppy Disk System port? Also hehe "Wii Fit this ain't" under pictures of Ring Fit for Switch
"Side B" here refers to which side of the Power Pad you were supposed to use. The screen indicator displays the same Star Trek: TNG-looking font that's printed on the Power Pad, so it's pretty intuitive in practice.
I really, really enjoyed the 2600 version of Winter Games. It's primitive, yes, but does a fantastic job of packing a multi-event challenge into a game system released in the 1970s. Not every event is fun, but some of them- particularly hot dog- are extremely entertaining. I rented Winter Games for the NES later, expecting a next generation experience, and got... well, what you're seeing here.
try as I might to find the image referenced in the intro I couldn't, but damned if I didn't see it in my head LOL! but I'm sure my power pad is long gone, but I still have the grey 3-in-1 cart with smb and duck hunt on it as well!!
I was working in a retro game shop when the Stadium Events story hit. A guy came in one day and spotted a copy of World Class Track Meet for $.99, looked at me incredulously and said, "Do you know what that is?" I said, "Yes, I do." "The price is right?" "Yeah, it's a buck." He bought it and started chuckling at me and, as he was walking out the door, said, "Do you know how much money you just lost?" I said, "Yes, I did." I did not see him again.
@@masterrserch3971 Lots of sports titles in September 1987. Next episode is Double Dribble (Konami) and presumably Ring King (Data East), which would be better than Winter Games.
Why on earth did they put the worst events into that Winter Games version and not the sublime Biathlon (skiing and then shooting). Bizarre decision :-(
There's some question as to whether or not Atlus actually developed those-there's evidence Atlus subcontracted its early NES games out to other studios.
@@JeremyParish Huh, no kidding? I'd never heard that. Still, I'd find it totally plausible that, at least, Atlus developed Friday the 13th. It has a level of ambition and creativity in its design (even if it doesn't always pull it off) that feels like something Atlus would do. Subcontractors usually don't try that hard, especially in an era when they could have just phoned in a generic licensed platformer. But that's just my gut reaction, of course.
Hmm, looks like it was Jaws that was almost definitely developed by Westone for Atlus, while the others were Atlus *possibly* in conjunction with unknown subcontractors: gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Blog:6
ugh ... Winter Games was one of the greatest games on C64 but holy cow was it terrible on NES. I spent many nights at a friend's house playing the C64 version, truly great couch (or desk, rather) multiplayer fun and then when I finally got it on NES it was one of the most depressing conversions.
10K is a secondhand quote from "Game Over." I've never read firsthand confirmation of the actual minimums, and it's possible those numbers varied per publisher. Nintendo was known to give favored publishers advantageous terms.
Both Jeremy and Retronauts have ALWAYS been a thing, pal :) And these videos have been crossposted to the Retronauts blog ever since they began, so I think it's fair for them to adopt the Retronauts branding on YT as well!
Retronauts has been back since 2013 and my primary concern for the past three years, chief. That's why it's mentioned in every single outro title card in every single video on this channel... I just moved the mentions forward to the front now that the videos are starting to approach the same level of popularity as the podcast, so more people will be aware of the show. People like, uh... you.
Then it worked. I always leave as soon as the credits began, never read them and assumed Retronauts ended years ago. Dumb mistake of mine, and I apologise.
Anybody who goes out and buys this shit game needs to have their bank account taken from them and preferably needs to be given a psych evaluation and their parental guardianship back since they can't be trusted to make sound healthy sane financial decisions.
Jeremy is descending farther into insanity with each title, that bit at the start threw me off haha
By NES Works #120 I expect this will have devolved into full-on _Mad_ magazine-style parody.
@@cinnamonnoir2487 Honestly, I wouldn't complain.
Wow. Not only is the figure skating section terrible, it's also set to the slowest, saddest version of "Waltz of the Flowers" I've ever heard in my life.
It sounds like HAL 9000 shutting down at the end of _2001: A Space Odyssey_ .
More like Wilting of the Flowers, amirite?
Beating Cheetah on hurdles legit with my feet and jumping remains one of my greatest gaming achievements.
A Bio Force Ape (kinda) reference combined with the song segment automatically elevate this episode to godhood
I'm not a member of any collector community by any stretch, but instantly recognizing the reference at the start and why it was used in this episode still gave me a (1) warm fuzzy feeling.
Whoa. I had no idea there were boxes for Mario/Duck Hunt/Track Meet. I thought it was like Nintendo World Cup/V'Ball or Mario World/All-Stars, where there were only pack-in copies that came as just a cart with manual, no box.
I learned something today!
I don't think there were. I'm guessing that's a mock-up so that it can look nicer on the shelf, like ones that can be found for Slither for Colecovision that came with their roller controller. I looked on eBay and some are called "Re Pro" boxes.
Take that stadium events you’re not that special you have to share a video with Winter games
lol
World Class Track Meet was a pretty big source of family strife during my childhood, especially when one person would quietly press down on the back two Side A sensors while the other person attempted a long jump. If I were to catalog every fight I ever had with my older brother, I'd say at least 85 percent of them were Power Pad related.
Ooh, that happened to me. On the other hand, you could step off the mat instead of jumping, watch tour avatar leap a superhuman distance, and step back on to land.
@@DrCorndog1 Is that not how you were supposed to do it? I definitely jumped off to the left and tapped my right foot on the 1 pad when I wanted to land. Tap it a few times in a long rhythm for the triple jump lol
I like that they put the noise I make whenever I want a cat to come towards me across the bottom of the screen for that speed skating game, nice touch by Epyx
According to Wikipedia, that is the programmer's soul (trapped eternally in the programming code as a curse for their work here) crying out for the merciful release of True Death
@@JeremyParish Bro me too.
Turns out for Figure Skating, you basically HAVE to read the instruction manual to have any chance. The instruction manual tells you exactly how to perform each move, stick the landings, and how the scoring system works.
I remember seeing a copy of stadium events as a kid at our Meijer store. I was super into the power pad and had World Class Track Meet that was bundled with it. I remember going to Meijers and seeing it and thinking about buying it because I thought I was a different game for the power pad. I never did buy it but for some reason seeing it in store sticks with me to this day. I really wish I would have bought it now lol.
Augh! I'm pretty sure I saw it at the Ionia location when I was a teen. I know I saw the game with the camp events. If only I knew then what I know now...
I’m so glad these are up and running as soon as I get ready for work Wednesday’s thank you Jeremy
I remember the local video store had a copy of Stadium Events, I'll bet it ended up in their sale bin at some point and more than likely in the trash eventually.
I loved the AVGN episode for Winter Games. His bit for Hot Dog Aerials is short, but a riot. Good memories for an ABSOLUTELY AWFUL GAME.
That song segment though. 😂
The trick to world-class track meet as a kid was just making very fast baby steps, or at least that is how I remember beating cheetah as a kid. I recall at a sleepover one night all the kids trying to find ways to exploit using the pad for the long jump. Jumping off the pad entirely than jumping back on, doing a jumping jack, stuff like that
Woo, Double Dwibble! I've sunk many hours into that game. I played it recently and it's still pretty good.
I cut my teeth on bwades of steel.
By "cut your teeth" I assume you mean "had your teeth punched out by an opposing player"
@@JeremyParish
Haha I won my fair share if scraps but lost quite a few as well. The fighting and shoot outs were the best part of the game imo.
I can't stop staring at Slalom's (ahem) behind... 😵
Stadium events' long jump/triple jump had a trick: if you jump BUT fall outside the powerpad you will be flying until the end,
I’m glad I hung around to see the promise of one of my favorite NES games coming up.
It's a Multi-Event Sports Spectacular.
I.e. these games are a MESS
Oh shit, Double Dribble's next?
...please mention the "amazing" rendition of the American National Anthem in the arcade version, _PLEASE._
When I was a kid, I honed my drumming skills by using my hands on the Power Pad! And, World Class Track Meet was perfect for that!
That one-liner at the start... That's an obscure reference. Sort of. Takes me back to NintendoAge...
"Only ’90s kids who are familiar with an extremely esoteric NES preservation controversy will get this"
@@JeremyParish I'm an 80s kid, so I don't get it. T_T
I'm also an ’80s kid, but I'm young at heart so they grandfathered me in
@@OmegaDez People demanded a ROM dump of Bio Force Ape, so some pranksters created an elaborate hoax, with screen shots that seemed like they could be real... until one of the characters blasted away half the onscreen graphics with a fart. The real game eventually was posted online, but the scary thing is that it's not any less strange than the hoax. O_o;
Athletic World's retrospective gameplay capture, complete with exhausted performance of an 80s montage classic, is Jeremy's magnum opus
World Class Track Meet will always be a sentimental favorite because it was the ONE game our parents would allow us to hook up the NES willingly (otherwise, we were capped at one hour, one day a week), since it was something all four siblings could play and played honestly, was a pretty good indoor workout for a kid. So it slid under the technicality of being something to do together and involve moving. Why I have THREE copies of this game today, I have no idea
Haha, I just about spit out the water I was drinking at that moment out as soon as I heard 'I am der butter'
Stadium Events sounds like an "overly fancy" joke name you'd use for a game that was actually called "Field Games" or something. "Yes, I enjoy listening to Strange Albert, drinking Elevated Peak Condensation, watching General Issue Joseph, and playing Stadium Events."
Bahaha, that first line had me in stitches. Yay for old, obscure things I didn't think anyone else remembered!
I saw World Class Track Meet on the NES sometime in the eary 90's. It was compatible with the Power Pad, but I didn't own the game for my NES.
as a kid in the 80s, we winter games and summer games by epyx on the c64. I remember feeling specifically let-down w the NES versions because of that
Not sure whether I really loved World Class Track Meet as a kid, or whether I just loved that the promise of exercise helped get an NES in the house.
As a kid, I somehow figured out (during the long jump) that jumping off the power pad and jumping back on at the last second made it possible to post ludicrous distances 😂😂
Wait, on the World Class Track Meet title screen it says "Side B" in the corner... was that game a sloppy Disk System port?
Also hehe "Wii Fit this ain't" under pictures of Ring Fit for Switch
"Side B" here refers to which side of the Power Pad you were supposed to use. The screen indicator displays the same Star Trek: TNG-looking font that's printed on the Power Pad, so it's pretty intuitive in practice.
That singing was glorious
Thanks, I'm available for weddings and bar mitzvahs
I really, really enjoyed the 2600 version of Winter Games. It's primitive, yes, but does a fantastic job of packing a multi-event challenge into a game system released in the 1970s. Not every event is fun, but some of them- particularly hot dog- are extremely entertaining. I rented Winter Games for the NES later, expecting a next generation experience, and got... well, what you're seeing here.
Winter Games may be cold, wet garbage, but at least it has that fabulous Epyx neon art.
Worth mentioning how the PAL Stadium Events is radically more common & thus more affordable - like $300 loose, $500 CIB? Something like that?
Once I was able to land a single trick on the ski jump lol
try as I might to find the image referenced in the intro I couldn't, but damned if I didn't see it in my head LOL! but I'm sure my power pad is long gone, but I still have the grey 3-in-1 cart with smb and duck hunt on it as well!!
It lives on forever: knowyourmeme.com/photos/911329-gif
@@JeremyParish Were you in the Digital Press community when that originally happened?
My brother, sister and I used to jump off the pad and then jump back on for the long jump.
I was working in a retro game shop when the Stadium Events story hit. A guy came in one day and spotted a copy of World Class Track Meet for $.99, looked at me incredulously and said, "Do you know what that is?" I said, "Yes, I do." "The price is right?" "Yeah, it's a buck." He bought it and started chuckling at me and, as he was walking out the door, said, "Do you know how much money you just lost?" I said, "Yes, I did." I did not see him again.
U should review WORLD GAMES... I just remember that big pole smashing me in the head every other time I tried CABER TOSS lol
That would have to wait for NES Works 1989 which would seem to at least a few years away.
@@absolutezeronow7928 oh... thought he would just do themes
This has always been and will always be a chronological trip through the NES library, like it says on the box.
Jeremy Parish I got thrown off at the end of this video when u said u were doing sports titles next video, but good ones
@@masterrserch3971 Lots of sports titles in September 1987. Next episode is Double Dribble (Konami) and presumably Ring King (Data East), which would be better than Winter Games.
Wow thanks for another great video, had no idea that the original Bandai release was so rare hence why its stupidly expensive. Cheers Jeremy.
Next episode: FMV comes to the NES.
Not sure I'd call that FULL motion, precisely....
Why on earth did they put the worst events into that Winter Games version and not the sublime Biathlon (skiing and then shooting). Bizarre decision :-(
It really says something when an Atari 2600 version of a game is better than its NES counterpart.
Whatever it says can't be repeated in polite company.
Jeremy is really gonna hate The Karate Kid as published by LJN, isn't he? (Nice follow-up on Athletic World)
Funfact: The Karate Kid was the second title that Atlus ever developed. And the third was the (underappreciated) NES Friday the 13th.
There's some question as to whether or not Atlus actually developed those-there's evidence Atlus subcontracted its early NES games out to other studios.
@@JeremyParish Huh, no kidding? I'd never heard that. Still, I'd find it totally plausible that, at least, Atlus developed Friday the 13th. It has a level of ambition and creativity in its design (even if it doesn't always pull it off) that feels like something Atlus would do. Subcontractors usually don't try that hard, especially in an era when they could have just phoned in a generic licensed platformer.
But that's just my gut reaction, of course.
Hmm, looks like it was Jaws that was almost definitely developed by Westone for Atlus, while the others were Atlus *possibly* in conjunction with unknown subcontractors: gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Blog:6
What figure on that Ice Skater >
She looks almost vaguely human!
I don't know what I was expecting when we were promised a return to Athletic World with the Power Mat, but it certainly wasn't... this
I'm afraid to ask if Winter Games used the Power Pad too.
Antonio Francisco Magaña Gómez No.
is that ending theme from NGE, sounds so familiar?
Had no idea that I had actually played Stadium Events!
Wow. I was hoping that, since the AVGN episode, people would have figured out how the skating game works.
I understand the concept, but the timing required to make transitions is inexplicable.
Is Double Dribble controversial? Everyone I knew loved it back at the time and it still seems well-regarded.
Bandai stadium events / world class track meet is very very expensive game and it's very very rear. 😀👍🎮
Yay Double Dribble. Can’t wait
Double dribble is what happens when you forget to shake it off
Lane Argent I thought that was when you gotta find somebody who appreciates all the love you give
Great videos man
Is the end song some classic tune? Or is it video game music?
Chiptune version of the episode preview music for Evangelion I think.
@@absolutezeronow7928 yeah I knew it from somewhere, thanks
ugh ... Winter Games was one of the greatest games on C64 but holy cow was it terrible on NES. I spent many nights at a friend's house playing the C64 version, truly great couch (or desk, rather) multiplayer fun and then when I finally got it on NES it was one of the most depressing conversions.
The Karate Kan't.
never actually seen the gameplay of this notoriously expensive title
But World Class Track Meet isn't expensive, and it's the same gameplay.
True, but how many people these days want to dig up a Power Pad to play the handful of not-great games that work with it?
But, like, the minimum print run was like 10,000 or something like that...
That's an awful lot.
10K is a secondhand quote from "Game Over." I've never read firsthand confirmation of the actual minimums, and it's possible those numbers varied per publisher. Nintendo was known to give favored publishers advantageous terms.
I have never been this early for one of these before. May I ask why Retronauts is appearing at the start? Are you a thing again?
Both Jeremy and Retronauts have ALWAYS been a thing, pal :) And these videos have been crossposted to the Retronauts blog ever since they began, so I think it's fair for them to adopt the Retronauts branding on YT as well!
I thought they stopped ages ago, and that's why Jeremy didn't use their branding in these.
Retronauts has been back since 2013 and my primary concern for the past three years, chief. That's why it's mentioned in every single outro title card in every single video on this channel... I just moved the mentions forward to the front now that the videos are starting to approach the same level of popularity as the podcast, so more people will be aware of the show. People like, uh... you.
Then it worked. I always leave as soon as the credits began, never read them and assumed Retronauts ended years ago. Dumb mistake of mine, and I apologise.
It's all good. But you have several hundred podcasts to catch up on!
This was a lot of fun for me and the boys back in kindergarten. Great party game
I missed this video because it was vetted and placed in the junk mail folder.
......
Next episode: Controversy.
I could care less about sports games... but it's double dribble. I give credit to it lol
Don't forget the other thing Slalom offered that Winter Games doesn't: That butt.
Slalom: Sexy ass
Winter games: Is ass
Dev: Human?
20k monies? Man, inflation sucks :'(
It's actually 41k monies but I fudged the details a little
Passing off Stadium Events as dur butter is the actual fudge. (Also, man, 2k monies once seemed like a lot ...)
@@StianSchultz Well, yeah, but I can't justify covering Bio Force Ape in this series unless someone publishes it.
Here's to hoping someone one day does exactly that. :)
I'll talk to my people...
point and laugh folks the video's got 669 likes
Stadium events, the NES game people buy for the plastic and a box yet it's a worthless game in the end
Anybody who goes out and buys this shit game needs to have their bank account taken from them and preferably needs to be given a psych evaluation and their parental guardianship back since they can't be trusted to make sound healthy sane financial decisions.