One advantage of the BMM cargo hauling is that it is largest cargo ship that can land planet side. The larger hull series can only dock to a space station when full of cargo.
Eugene, this is a fantastic point that I had overlooked! I suspect the profitability of being the largest planetside hauler will be highly lucrative! And with its shop synergy you can then have locals browsing aboard while you’re offloading that cargo! What a fantastic idea, thank you so much for sharing!
This is actually something I came up with while daydreaming about this ship: But one thing you can do is pose as trader in order to infiltrate an enemy fleet. Put a Sabre Raven in your Hangar and just before you get close to the fleet, launch the ship and let it gather information about your enemies fleet prior to an attack. While the main fleet is distracted by your trade, the Raven can use its data collection to gather vital intel. Once it's all said and done, you could fly back, have your Raven land back in the Hangar full of data it collected. Then sell that Data to those who hired you. Not only do you make profit selling to the fleet, but also for the data you collected... Profit $$$
SgtTeddybear59, thanks for watching the video and leaving this awesome idea!! I love the premise of having a stealth data ship that you’re running counter-Intel with! Hell, if you make good money of the trading it’s an added bonus haha. Funnily enough, I remember reading on Reddit about someone who wanted to land a herald aboard a BMM for data mining while posing as a buyer. It’ll be insane the level of role playing that could go into pulling off some of these higher-level ploys! I really think Chris and CIG are pushing for the type of game that caters to that play style, with tremendous freedom and robust gameplay mechanics in SC to support it!
@@Shinzon23 Hahaha, yes!! Now if CIG can deliver this ship to us within a reasonable amount of time, it’ll be way more “testing” and less speculation! I don’t think I’ve ever been less patient or more excited for a ship release 😁!
A BMM/Defender combo is my fleet flagship. Lore says the Banu use BMM's as both warships and blockade runners, hence the armor and heavy firepower. It is also well suited as a VIP transport using the guest quarters and Banu's love for ostentatious luxury. These are besides the role of trader and cargo transport.
Absolutely agree! It’ll be the ship I spend the vast majority of time, and what I’ll be starting the verse off with! I was entranced by the initial concept of traveling bazaar, flagship, blockade runner and alien home. These recent updates have only confirmed everything again and then some! Honestly I was expecting some opulence after the Defender, but I was not expecting that level of wealth or sophistication! While everyone’s tastes differ, I’d much prefer to stay in a room aboard the BMM compared to an 890 Jump any day!
@RAYfighter I feel similarly about dangerous combat missions, although I could see the BMM running plenty of exploration missions if that’s the ship people are on when something “pops.” I suspect people would rather jump right to the action (especially with what will be a massive best in class range on the BMMs Q drive), rather than wait to swap ships. But we shall see! I definitely see the Carrack as a dedicated best in class explorer, which is used to acquire the goods to then deliver to the BMM! I think even if the BMM can do a lot of things, it should be beat by the dedicated ships in those specific roles, just from a balance standpoint.
@RAYfighter Hahaha, YES, I absolutely agree!!! I’m really hopeful CIG can keep metas to a minimum, although is suppose it’ll always be human nature to push for maximum efficiency in everything. But I don’t think you’ll be disappointed walking up to the BMM the first time you see it in your hangar! And I know for me personally, I’ll enjoy some good role playing and sightseeing! And I cant imagine a nicer vessel for me to do that in!
I have this ship, I’m pretty excited for its release… I also think it will be around 1k on release. Can’t see how a ship of this calibre could be any less.
I agree completely, especially given all of the new features they announced in this most recent update! What’s curious is that the Merchantman isn’t listed alongside the Banu Defender for the upcoming IAE sale. I’m wondering if they’re holding off on selling it, to price hike even more for alien week next year 🤔 But at least it’s not a problem for either of us, and congratulations on getting this fantastic ship before the massive price hike! And thank you as well, for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
When I first got the BMM it looked to me like a fast cargo hauler with an alien charm to it. But now........ Its nice to have something I can do a hell of a lot more with. With how much I play a flexable support role in other games, this just feels like I'm getting the ship that fits me more and more.
Absolutely! I’ve loved the changes the BMM has gone through as well. I got behind the fast blockade runner, but the recent upgrades and growth it’s undergone are absolutely legendary! It just offers so much in one package, I cannot wait to have it in game!
I built my fleet around a BMM and Endeavors. These two ships pair synergistically, with the BMM serving as a sales outlet for items which have been "enhanced" by the particle accelerator, or cultivated in the Endeavor's bio-domes and processed in her labs.
Mark Johnson, thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave these great comments! That’s my plan as well, using Endeavors as a production facility for at least some of the goods which will be sold aboard the BMM!
Yes this so much. I just need to figure out how to operate multiple ships at once lol! I wanted to do the same. The BMM being the central market and trading hub to sell the things I Mine, Salvage, Loot, or Create using the various other trade ships like the Orion, Reclaimer, Endeavour, etc. I just don't know how that will actually work in practice. I really feel like we need a way to hire other players. Like an actual game mechanic. Hiring them would give them a regular wage out of your bank account, give them access to specific ship permissions you give them but they can be "fired" at any time, reverting those permissions.
@@JohnVanderbeck The answer will be org recruitment. Assuming that, after SC goes live, ships will no longer be available for sale other than on the gray market, there will be a lot of new players who will be eager to gain experience on the larger, more aspirational, ships early in their gaming experience. I plan to have a mobile colony, much like the Battlestar Galactica fleet, with miners and salvagers feeding into the Endeavors in turn feeding the BMM, with combat ships for area defense, and medical, refueling, repair and refitting support, and exploration vessels off base looking for the next likely locale when it's time to relocate. Thus, members of my org will have the opportunity to pursue whichever game activities most appeal to them, and to easily transition from one career path to another as they choose.
@@JohnVanderbeck This is an excellent question, and one that CIG has yet to clarify specifically! Initially there were talks that multiple game packages would allow you to essentially have a free hireable NPC aboard, with some talks that it might also be a player which a friend can “free fly.” The only thing they were opposed to specifically, was having NPCs fly your other ships in any meaningful way (apart from deliveries). But with that said, having Org mates at least just at the helm, or even an alternate computer where you could keep a character logged in, seem to be the only currently viable options! While I suspect they will keep the majority of that, as Chris Roberts has been very specific in wanting the captain of the ship to be a player, we will definitely have to see how it all plays out! And thanks for taking the time to jump in to the feed and reply to some of the other comments, it really helps the channel and I really appreciate your engagement!
@@Shinzon23 Or just hunker down atop the bridge/sanctuary, and vent all the other decks 😂. Although Aliens has taught me this isn’t Xenomorph proof haha
Personally I’d like to use the BMM to be sort of a negotiation ship for maybe two rival orgs to enter it as neutral space and discuss ceasefires and trades and act as a mediator between them. The negotiation room look perfect for it.
Philip Miethke, this is such an awesome idea! And thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment! I love the idea of using the negotiation room as a place to discuss cease-fires and organize treaties! And if you pair this with an Endeavor Hope Class, and you’re an unstoppable force of good throughout the verse!
the problem is, the game will be mostly npc driven, so no big orgs owning space , its more of a landmarks for building on moons , also the direction the game moves gives you the option to not interact with bigger orgs at all , and still get flithy rich. The BMM will probably be a good long range trading ship where you will be able to make a fortune on selling rare goods to different systems and not rely on landing somewhere. So sadly you must involve alot of RP to use it with the purpose you described . Everytime i seee those super organized EVE-like orgs i feel a bit sad that it will never have the economy or the player interactions eve is offering. People alrdy cried when you kill them when they pick up illegal-drugs at jumptown . Same goes for people that haul cargo alone and complain that they loose everything without a escort
@@0BLACKESTFUN0 It’s true that NPC will define the majority of this Universe! Although seeing how big role-playing is in some of the largest Orgs, I could see there being a place for this kind of thing in game! And the BMM would be one hell of a ship to negotiate in! But I absolutely agree, unless CIG implements some kind of mission towards negotiation, the extent will largely be role playing, or emergent gameplay scenarios; wherein a BMM happens upon a war! And the ship really will be an absolute moneymaker! Even players independent of a large Org will be able to make a considerable fortune using the BMM!
@@ViciDeum The problem with this is that there would be way too many BMMs willing to act as said mediator. It would be bedlam in choosing who to use as said mediator.
@@ViciDeum for role-play i agree aswell will have a nice asset to work with also maybe getting boarded on such ship might be a amazing experience for both parties ^^Ye the longrange ability to nearly trade anything everywhere is just the best thing you can have and this in large ammounts ^^
I've got this crazy idea of housing tanks and opening the bottom tray and top hangar of the ship for offensive or defensive capabilities. All around though, i will use this as a home base while exploring with friends.
It won't surprise me if the dollar cost of the BMM breaks the $1k mark due to how many features it has. (Same goes for the Carrack.) I'm in complete agreement of all of these listed, but I add in that eventually, it can be used as a bounty hunting headquarters hosting high end sting operations for pirate / criminal orgs & their players if not NPCs. Fill the shops with contraband that the criminals would want, have all of the shop agents be replaced with skilled bounty hunters & once enough criminals are inside, incapacitate them with non-lethal weapons, drag them to an Avenger Stalker (or Cutty Blue if it'll fit) & have that take them to be turned in for the reward. Rinse & repeat.
The BMM and the Carrack will definitely see prices that reflect the value they offer, the Merchantman especially so! And I love that use case for this ship 🤣 A pirate honeypot would make the perfect sting haha
I bought this ship back in Jan 2015!! I am super excited to see how this ship has evolved all the way up until now and have been waiting patiently and holding onto it this entire time and I cant wait for its release!
Risking your BMM in combat would be foolish as this is a rare ship and will require longer insurance wait times for replacement, as a matter of fact I wouldn't be surprised of a minimum 48hrs on this ship.
Agreed, and I don’t think anyone should needlessly risk this ship in combat, as it will take an extremely long time to repair and there could be additional costs to reputation from the Banu Soli depending! But given its combat proficiency, using this ship to target much smaller ships and even working through the VHRT bounty hunting profession, I could see being highly profitable! Costs should be kept minimum as the predominance of the BMM’s weapons are laser canons (likely Tachyon), and with the BMMs ship armor it should negative most sub S3 ship weapons fire! I think the real differentiation for top-tier BMM pilots will be knowing when to engage and went to flee a situation. I see a lot of pilots being overconfident with this ship, and quickly being overwhelmed or outmaneuvered, especially if attempting to fly solo!
Congratulations on the pickups! Honestly the BMM is shaping up to be such a great forever ship in the verse, I can’t wait till I’m able to live permanently in mine!
I think the most overlooked use for the BMM is colonization support. The Pioneer will have 600 SCU of cargo space to haul building supplies - that’s not much of you’re trying to build a real outpost. Hauling building supplies and selling directly to the settlers will be very profitable. On the rogue/aggressive trading side of that, small orgs with minimal escort for their Pioneer can be leveraged with the BMM’s firepower - buy from us or kiss your outpost goodbye kind of thing. As a blockade runner, I think the BMM could also be used to enforce a blockade against settlers, further putting a squeeze on ‘customers’.
George Patton, I love this idea! I absolutely did overlook this, but that’s a really interesting game play synergy! And thanks for taking the time to be so thorough in your comment and for watching the video! I think with the merchantman’s massive cargo hold, the support both from Its SCU and those size 8 guns will really come in handy! And with the merchantman’s hanger, you also have a very convenient runabout should any detours arise!
@@ViciDeum absolutely, man! I’m in the process of building a fleet and org to get into the space racketeering business, so gameplay elements like that are kinda how I analyze any ship - how will this let my org leverage small orgs into paying for protection. We’re not regular pirates because we’ll help out and protect our customers, but we’re not exactly regular traders either. We’ll be a lot like the old Italian families or German robber barons. 😂
@@georgepatton9958 Haha, I love the idea of you and your Org running a semi-nomadic space racketeering gang, where you force people to pay, but still provide good protection! I’ll just make sure you stay out of your space lanes, or pay my dues accordingly 😉👍
As an owner of a Merchantman, I plan on using mine to sell items my other skillsets acquire. As a salvager, cargo runner, and miner I expect to have ample supplies to place on the BMM to collect and then go sell.
JAS Aerial, thanks for taking the time to watch the video and share your thoughts on your intended uses for the BMM! I think those are fantastic ideas, and the trading platform of the Merchantman really allows for that utility! Being a loot goblin, playing the different loops and using this as a refurbishment one stop shop is a fantastic idea, that’ll be fun and extremely lucrative!
@@ViciDeum Very much this... I am a bloody loot goblin too and I will need some way to offload all of the loot I hoover up as I go profit being the motive. When 3.16 comes out I will have soo many things to offload.
@@BetaX425 Here’s to hoping we get the BMM sooner in-game than later! I know I don’t want to worry about someone middle manning my profits away! I’m all about that direct to customer entrepreneurship 👍
Picking one up during alien week this year! Of the current selection of capital ships I think this will end up being one of the best for everyday use. Almost went Polaris but the BMM’s armor, point defense, and dual s8 guns that don’t have to be “restocked” settled it for me. Even at the current price it’s a steal for what it is/will be.
I completely agree, and will be using the BMM as my flotilla home when it’s finally released! And congrats on the pickup in advance, the BMM is one stunning ship, with everything you need to live lavishly out there in the verse!
Technically the larger hull series can land on a few planetside locations (like Orison) fully laden but the BMM can land anywhere and it's just about the largest planetside hauler there is. The only one that could compete is the newly released Drake Ironclad and it has half the capacity. Also it might be possible to load the hangar with more cargo containers.
I plan to use mine for the same thing as I did when I bought it. A travelling bazaar. Note, for #3 exploration, one important think you missed is scanners which I don't think the BMM will necessarily excel at. The BMM might be solid for exploring KNOWN space, but probably not for charting new space, new jump points, etc.
This ship makes such a fantastic traveling bazaar and its what sold me on it originally! The fact that it’s the only atmospheric ship current stated to allow players to sell goods is incredible! I am curious to see how the ship ends up panning out with regards to exploration, because I do think it’ll have great scanning but we’ll definitely have to see! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
I'm going to blast off day one on my Orion and my Odyssey, and get into all kinds of trouble with my salvage org, and then after a few years, I am going to fly to some of the starting areas, and sell all the new players 2 years of my adventures and tell them stories of what 2.0 was like; and old arena commander.
Hahahaha, I love this gameplay loop and your endgame goals! You will be a well-seasoned starship captain by then and all will come to revel in your tails of splendor and the days of old! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
To add a little tidbit, there is one other ship already in game--which just got a phantom price hike--and may be able to trade before the BMM comes online. CIG said (edit: maybe they didn't) a long time ago that the Drake Caterpillar will be able to equip modular shops when modularity comes online. Seems possible that could be on the hkrizon.
Can’t Snackbeard, thanks for watching the video and leaving this juicy tidbit! And wow, that’s really cool speculation I haven’t heard before! Are you suggesting it could be possible for the Cat to get a vendor/shopping module with it?! I welcome the idea and think it would be an absolute game changer if implemented!
@@ViciDeum Yes. There is an very old AtV episode I think where they showed early stages of the modules in development. Not sure if a shop module was shown, but I believe they mentioned it at one point as a possibility.
@@luckyqualmi Mr. Pink, I really appreciate you dropping that information! I’d love to check out a little more about the the Cat modularity! I’m definitely going to pickup one (at the very least in game), it’s just such a tremendously useful and downright iconic ship!
You are the first person to leverage the BMM as a logistics ship. People talk about the mall for other players, not necessarily affiliated. Where it shines is as a depot for an Org. You can sell gear at cost from the mall to org mates that need resupply, without losing that much money. Being able to have a bunch of replacement armor, multitools, weapons, and armor available to your org at cost, discount, or even profit is a huge advantage for operating in the black for a long time. This means that your org mates aren't leaving the system to go restock all the time, instead just the BMM has to go back and forth when it eventually burns through its huge supply. With its SCU capacity, you can hold tens of thousands of weapons and armor pieces in reserve. This also applies to exploration, like you brought up.
John Boyd, thank you for pointing that out! And I’m glad you appreciated my thoughts! The BMM has such tremendous utility aside from just the shopping mall, despite the usefulness of it! I’m really excited to see the combinations of things players come up with in terms maximizing the potential of this ship! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
Delarosa, thank you so much! I really love the BMM and I’m glad you enjoyed the video as well! And thank you for taking the time to engage in the comments and share your support, you rule!
Vagabond Prime, thank you so much for your kind words! I think I’ll predominately use my BMM for this as well, and I couldn’t be more excited for any other ship in-game! And thank you again for taking the time to drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum I appreciate any SC YT channel that puts in the work, I think you're going to be really happy with your growth over the next year. Keep up the amazing content, I'll be waiting for more!
@@vagabondprime1691 Thank you so much! I’m humbled by the community appreciation and already blown away by the growth I’ve seen these past few weeks! I’m really excited for the future of this channel and Star Citizen, and look forward to bringing you some awesome new videos every week!
I plan on using the BMM as part of my own personal fleet. I'm going to be running around the verse searching for salvage and then rip. Components, fuel, left behind cargo and items out of them and transfer them to the BMM so they can be repurchased. Seeing the items just laying around and not being used doesn't feel right but being able to pass them off to someone who can makes it worth it. Of course if anything nice shows up it winds up in the bazaar otherwise it's stockpiled into the cargo hold.
I think this is an awesome idea, and very reminiscent of the Star Wars Jawa and Sand-crawlers! It’ll be really cool if they introduce a smaller salvage ship that could fit within the BMM’s hangar, so you could have an onboard salvager under the extended range of that massive Merchantman quantum drive! And it sounds like it’s going to be extremely profitable! I’m really excited for the vendor gameplay loops and think CIG will do them justice! And thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate the engagement!
@@ViciDeum You hit the nail on the head, when I watch episode 7 and I see Rey pulling ship pieces apart to scrounge up something for that single meal she wants to eat. The idea of being on the brink of civilization... just you, an empty void of space, the ship, and her treasure trove waiting to be discovered. Pulling apart nick-nacks and doo-dads. I currently I'm running a vulture as my salvage ship, hopefully they introduce another salvage ship as you said that fits in the BMM but time will tell.
@@hitmanstallion2697 This is such a cool idea, I really hope the Pyro and Nyx systems bring this kind of outer world/scrapper homestead! I love the idea of going through a fresh capital ship wreck (or even a derelict Javelin), to pull apart bits and bobs to then sell for a living! I can only imagine the types of emergent gameplay that would have!!
As a former soldier, the BMM as a drop ship doesnt work really. The lift for the cargo is to slow and to small to ensure fast deployment. And the BMM is to big to come down fast and get the troops out. :D But yeah, it will be a support and transport vessel for my ORION in my org. Or if we decide to go to a long exploration journey with my BMM and the org Carrack or Endeavour. Our fleet is planned for long time travel without needing much outside support like nomads.
Hey Otto Normal, thanks for taking the time to watch the video, drop a comment and for your service! And I agree, the BMM is one really BIG ship! I definitely don’t see this dropping into a hot LZ anytime soon, especially with how sluggish the BMM’s flight handling would be! But depending on how they “gamify” Star Citizen, I could see it still functioning even if it wouldn’t make a great real world equivalent. In space I see the BMM working in this capacity as a snub carrier, opening the bay to let out a swarm of fighters. In low atmos like on moons, you could potentially drive out the opening without needing to wait for the bay to return altogether! But I see this best in situations where atmospheric conditions force ships to ground several km out from a point of interest (like the infamous 2016 Citizencon video). Then the fleet could deploy at a safe distance, with the BMM still bringing that force into the action! But I’ll likely use the ship as a long-distance deep trader as well! And I think it pairs excellently with the Endeavor, Orion and Carrack, as those ships can easily stockpile the BMM with its stores’ wares to then sell!
@@ottonormal3354 Same haha. Although it’s hard not to daydream about the PU. That’s why I think making these videos helps to satiate that hunger haha. And I can’t wait until SQ42 comes out. I would be stoked for end of 2022, especially if it generates new hype and revenue for Star Citizen! With the amazing content I’m already seeing with 3.15 PTU on a company with a split focus, I can only imagine what amazing content we’d get with everyone working together! It’s going to be legendary!
Great video that earned you my sub :) I think the BMM also will be a great mobile piracy base/ship for a small group of friends aswell. Imagine a Liberator, a Crucible, a Starfarer, a Retaliator and some hard hitting fighters inside/on the BMM and Liberator like Hurricanes and Eclipses. A small self sufficient fleet (repair, refuel would be possible without landing/docking) that would be able to take down cargo carriers and its protection. That fleet could carry all the cargo it "obtained" and could also sell the wares directly using the BMM.
Oh and "small group of friends" is relativ btw :) Anyway, the Crucible and Starfarer could stay away from the action and remain unmanned in an asteroid field or nebula. Once the attacking players return they can then man the Crucible/Starfarer and repair/refuel the fleet. That approach would drastically lower the amount of players that would be needed.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your support and welcome aboard! And I think that’s an awesome idea, using the BMM as an aggressive pirate fleet with some hard-hitting potential, especially pairing with hurricanes and eclipses! And with the massive cargo hold and easy loading drop down design, I could easily see positioning it effectively in that situation! And thank you so much for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts and support, I really appreciate your engagement!
Peep the area on the top of the bow of the BMM... People are speculating it's a s10 or larger weapon. If you look closely at it, it has the same exact design as the s8's on the port and starboard side. An interesting development indeed.
Hey Galactic Jack, that would be a really interesting development! And thanks for watching the video and taking the time to drop a comment! A size 10 weapon would be INSANE on top of the 2 size 8s that the BMM has. I saw some speculation from Lawless Baron about the hidden S10, but I just don’t think this speculation was founded, even if the front end has similar housing designs. While I love the idea, the DPS from that would outgun combat dedicated ships even larger than the BMM, and would be a bit too unbalanced in my opinion. But even with just the confirmed 2s8, the BMM will be an absolute powerhouse of combat, especially when paired with its escort fighter and with full PDS/turret coverage!
@@ViciDeum if it goes capital, it wouldn't be out of character at all tbh. That and the Banu are an alien race. This ship is their home, means of making money, exploring and funny enough, a combat ship for the Banu in times of war. So one more huge cannon wouldn't be too out of place if you really think about it. These ships are more then just their temporary abodes. It's their EVERYTHING.
@@galacticjack8480 I agree completely! This ship really is everything to the Banu, and I’m really glad to see they gave it such thoughtful attention. My only hesitation with that size 10 is balancing this ship in-game against the others. Since this was concepted as 3s6 initially, I just see the jump being a little too much for them to make with 2s8 and a s10, but we shall see! Im going to be stoked once this ship releases, even if it’s just those 2s8! But I suspect even with the new size increase it’ll stay sub-capital, with 2 or 3 large shields and a good amount of armor (especially reinforced within the cargo hold). This will be an absolutely deadly ship faced head-on, plus it’ll be able to withstand quite a lot! And once armor gets introduced, it’ll shrug off most weapons below S3 I’d imagine 🙌
@@DarthPulven I agree, and I think that the space would likely just be scanners, computers, and other equipment that the BMM would need. As these ships were likely pre-existing Banu designs retrofitted with newer components too, it’s possible that the ship just may not have an optimized internal layout!
It would be really interesting to see if the Valkyrie could overextend those landing pads on a Liberator for this capacity? But any extra ships with this ability are more than welcome in my eyes! Something like a dedicated combat dropship big enough for a Valk and a few tanks would be awesome! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate the engagement!
Random Task, thank you so much! Your support is tremendously encouraging and I really appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and leave these kind words!
I bought a CCU from a Hull C to one of these ages back, easy choice :) Figured that way I get to play with the Hull C before perm swapping over to the Merchantman. I know this needs doing Before the game goes live.
OniMetsuki, that’s a great CCU and an excellent pickup before both ships increase in price! Although until you apply that CCU, you’ll still have to pay for the price of the Hull C at the time. But thankfully there’s still time before it’s price hike/release (likely) next year! And the Merchantman is going to be so incredible, well worth the wait! And, thanks for taking the time to watch the video and drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum Thanks for the reply and tip. I bought the full set of various ships and CCU's ages back when they were first offered and got the best prices so I should be fine :) I've spent too much on this game, but wanted to back a project from start to finish and although a longer journey than expected it has been an excellent choice with far more feedback from the team than I could have dreamed of! That and I have been a long time fan of Chris Roberts games from Wing Commander to Freelancer (I almost backed Project CARS which gave Very little feedback to the community but SC appeared just in time ! ) Great video btw, I'm sure your channel will grow nicely ^^
@@OniMetsuki Thank you so much for the kind words, I really appreciate you saying to that! And that’s awesome, I’m just starting to build out my chains now! And I hear you, I backed this in 2014 so I feel you on the long journey; although it’s definitely tempered my patience haha. But it’s going to be such a worthwhile journey at release, it’s honestly such an incredibly immersive space sim already! And those 90s/2000s space games were so much fun! I grew up with tie fighter and dark forces too. Absolute classics!
@@ViciDeum Yeah, those games made for some great memories between myself and my brother. I almost got a Golden Ticket, even had the page open, but unfortunately decided to finish a work project off before diving into this exciting new game. Just re-reading my post, my full set of ships is certainly not The Full Set, I'm not that rich LOL But will be a nice set of options for play and honestly mainly to support the game. I've spent more money on "Free to Play" MMORPGs over the years than I've spent on Star Citizen which I know I'm going to love and have a load more fun with. So it felt rude to just buy a SC Starter package ! Because at the end of the day SC is far more F2P than those others...
@@OniMetsuki I absolutely agree, there just aren’t other games like Star Citizen! And as a baker of this game, the experience is so much different! Although they were legitimate initial issues from 2014-2016, CIG has reinforced a commitment to open development and directly incorporating community feedback! It’s so fantastic to see! Not only are we helping to support this game with our purchases, but through feedback posts and play-testing; we actively support development as well! It’s just so cool to be a part of that in real time! Haha, and that’s good to know! You would have quite the impressive investment put into Star Citizen if that was the case! And I’m not even concierge myself; although I have no doubts that I will be by the time this game is live 😅👍
Kyle Turner, I’m really glad you liked this! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave your thoughts! The engagement helps and I really appreciate it! I’m a hoarder in-game as well as a loot goblin, so this ship should help keep my inventory trim and my pockets full 😁👍
Got this back in 2016 ...... been waiting a long time to fly this. My only worry is cost to fly the ship day to day. I have a second medium ship for everyday use so I will use it to build up my funds at the start. Hopefully.
Picking up the Merchantman with cash will definitely save you a lot of grind in game, and running a medium ship will definitely help you kickstart this upkeep! Once you’ve got the Merchantman money-making though, you should be more than lucrative enough to keep it afloat! And congratulations on the pickup, this is one beast of a ship, especially for the price you paid back then!
I've got 2, with CCUs for 2 more. I plan to run a fleet of these. Protection by Redeemer and Retaliator, maybe a Hammerhead and Polaris in extreme cases.
Congratulations on the fleet pickup, those are some excellent ships! To get around the limitations flying only one ship at a time, are you planning on running multiple pcs to operate the fleet at once, or let Org members fly the ships on your behalf?
@@ViciDeum have a small org, each participant with at least 1 BMM, we will take Turns as to who's is in operation at any given moment, with the rest manning the ship and flying escort.
@@ViciDeum the real challenge will be finding time to play the game to the extent I'll need to. My wife is an attention hound, and she does not grasp the concept of a game that takes more than 30 minutes to play.
For me the BMM is both a home Base and a enabler, meaning I'd use the BMM (and whatever I'll put in it) as my base, rather than having a Pioneer build one for me. Also, I'm a huge fan of looting in RPG like Fallout/Skyrim. I'd take the ship from the BMM's Hangar while the BMM is safely stored away, explore caves and so on and bring the loot back to the BMM. I know doing this alone would be rather inefficient, since the BMM could easily handle a whole squadron of people dumping their loot into it and I hope to find others to do this with. But it's more about the Gameplay itself than maxing the profits. I never cared about the Kraken due to it's price (and I won't participate in F5-Wars), but I didn't know it couldn't land/take off when fully loaded.
MadIIMike, this was a fantastic read, thank you for sharing this comment and taking the time to watch the video! And this is my intention as well, but in tandem with either a main base or various outpost I set up along the way! But I suspect that the BMM will be my primary home, especially given how vast and dynamic space is! With its likely massive quantum range, I’m sure the Merchantman will always be able to get to where something interesting is happening! As a fellow loot goblin myself, being able to get to those interesting places and have a ship to not just store but sell all those goods will be incredible! And the synergy with the defender makes such a fantastic addition! During Xeno threat I used the defender as my primary ship, because of the easy loading front entrance and powerful combat prowess! It kicked ass and was really easy to load, able to take the entire cargo hold from the whole StarFarer! And thankfully, CIG has confirmed that with crew requirements the majority of the time those positions will be filled by hire-able NPCs who are expected to make up 9:1 of the roles and positions seen in the verse compared to real players! On the ship I see them being able to either work aboard or have their wages paid by the ships/vendors! And interestingly, the BMM is the largest trader and cargo hauler in the game that is capable of landing and leaving atmosphere unassisted while fully loaded! The Hull D and E can’t ever land when their cargo grids are loaded (they must dock at space stations), and the Kraken must use other ships! I see this being a big advantage for the BMM!
Eric Cattanach, thank you so much for those kind words! I really appreciate you watching this video and for your support! And I’ve got several more in this series upcoming so stay tuned for more!
I got this ship for 280 because it was a good deal. I wasn't interested in alien ships, but the closer it gets, the more it looks like the ultimate ship. I'm getting more and more hyped for it!
That’s an incredible deal for $280 and I don’t think you’ll regret that purchase for even a second once this ship releases! The BMM is truly shaping up to be one of the best ships in the entire game, I cannot wait to fly mine 😁👍 And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
You’ll have to be patient for sure as it seems the BMM won’t be coming out for another 1-2 years but it’ll be all worth it once it comes out. I recently bought the BMM this alien week.
@@baldmista1907 I honestly doubt it'll be worth it, obviously this video doesn't show the many design problems this thing has that would make it terrible for a lot of things it's supposed to be good at and it is overall very biased (for example I doubt this thing could be used in combat even npcs will be able to dodge its shots), now I could explain why I think it is really bad especially for trading if you want to read a long ass essay, but basically do not buy that thing as you will be disappointed, I would advise you to buy the polaris if you really want to spend your money on a "concrete" capital ship (that'll come out pretty "soon" apparently) except if you don't like combat
@@Stormyy6310 explain why cargo hauling on it will be bad. If anything it will be good. And the combat on it ain’t supposed to be good, it’s a fucking CARGO HAULER for christs sakes. It’s the largest cargo ship that will be able to land planet side. Meaning you won’t need to haul in cargo to a planet from orbit in something like the haul E.
@@Stormyy6310 also the combat on it won’t even be bad. If you have friends that can man turrets it will be good. Not to mention this thing will likely be able to hold a hurricane in its hangar bay. It’ll also be incredibly sturdy it seems judging by its capital shield and the amount of hp it will have. You’ll definitely be able to fend off pirates.
I have it and its my most anticiptated ship, i mean it looks awsome, its huge, it does everything well that you throw at it. I can see this easilly rise over 900 to 1000 dollars
Agreed, and my most anticipated ship as well! It’s a big ship but comes with such tremendous utility it’s really hard to find an equal! I can easily see this reaching (or surpassing) the $900-$1,000 mark! And thank you so much for watching the video and sharing your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
Love it I was so fortunate to pick up 2 last year on War bond for $335 I believe to link chain to Aquilas who I then continue to link to last year free referral bike and this year Argo for BMMs in the $200 or so USD range 😁 A wonderful ship that according to lore will be very difficult to get in game. (It reminds me of getting a G10 Glitter Boy in the Rifts RPG game, a multi-genoration total kick butt armor) but in ship format 😁 I plan to do all 5 of your recommendations plus lead my org Hadron from one of them 👍 Very good video, I subscribe 😉
Primeval Atom, thank you so much and welcome aboard! And congratulations as well, because that is an absolutely fantastic ship and those are some seriously killer savings! I’m honestly surprised that they didn’t price hike this ship more during the IAE, but I suspect CIG will find an opportunity to increase it several hundred more by release! And thank you so much for taking the time to watch this video, share and subscribe, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum Someone commented on the possibility they wanted some people to upgrade from the BMM into a liberator or Carrack to decrease the number of BMMs That is why it was price below them. While at the same time the Odyssey was price above the Carrack so that people would upgrade their Carracks to Odysseys. Just keep the money rolling in as people keep upgrading lol. Get that amazing ship that sales for $1000 USD for just $500 USD (Don't pay attention to the fact you pay $500 USD for a game asset on a video game ,😱) Ludicrous to imagine doing that just 10 years ago but very common now I guess. I am just happy - enjoy the idea of the ships and just don't have the time to grind in-game in order to get them so I was happy with buying them and spend my limited playing time hopefully flying them 😉
@@VICT0RLAZL0 That’s a fantastic point I hadn’t even considered, but it absolutely makes sense! I think from a marketing perspective, keeping the amount of BMM’s limited but also allowing people to then pay even more during upgrade paths to other ships is a fantastically clever idea! And I also buy these ships as a time savings as well, so I don’t have to earn them in-game and to test them out as soon as they go live! I do want to earn tons of ships in-game as well, but for the ships I know I absolutely can’t live without, I’m buying them with cash before launch!
@@ViciDeum one tactic I plan to use is buy the large ships, BMM & Endeavour, with CCU for under $250 USD. Then sell them in game for millions of UEC. Then buy any of the smaller sub-capital ships with the UEC. Example, let's say the Endeavour or BMM sell for the same as the 890 jump $32 mill or so. Then with that I can buy the Carrack for $24 mill and a Starfarer for $7 mill. So one $250 dollar ship gets me 1 $600 & 1 $300 dollar ship. Or something like that... I hope my plan works 😅
if the cargo bay is empty and it allows vehicles onto the pad from the empty cargo space id be using it as a carrier to haul friends to and from pyro and even around pyro ill also be using it like a outpost where i can land of dock in space and let friends and allies resupply with guns fuel ammo medical supplies and food that they cant get in pyro
It should allow you to shuttle ground vehicles up into its cargo bay using the Gavtech lift, as well as being an awesome platform for you and your friends to restock and resupply!
I never realized how big of a ship I bought till i saw the xray lmao. But my plans for it are really to kinda make a space city lol and try and be a traveling salesman sorta thing
I absolutely agree! For me personally, this is my favorite ship in game, and really represents the pinnacle of multi-role, sub-capital capabilities! And with its onboard marketplace, it’s just an added bonus atop it all! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I appreciate your engagement!
I used to not be interested in this ship but at least i was smart enough to buy a few CCUs when it was $250.. now im glad i did. This thing is amazing especially for $250 or less lol
The Drake, those are some fantastic CCU’s that you purchased! And congratulations on grabbing the BMM for its lowest price! As this ship slowly gets price bumps, you’ll pretty much be able to upgrade into almost any ship you want! That is if there still are any you’re missing haha! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
What I am concerned about is CIG breaking down the stats and capabilities of this ship into Variances so that not any one of them do it all. I would like your thoughts on that.
Atholl Moray, thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment! I’d love to explore this but just need a little clarification. Are you concerned CIG will create variants for this ship and the one you purchased won’t reflect the designs they mentioned? Like there will only be a medical BMM which has the medbay? Or are you referring to something else? I personally think the Merchantman will be more restricted than others in terms of modularity, and I could see them not creating variants for this ship. And in terms of the capabilities of this ship (and it being too op), I think there will be serious drawbacks like it’s sluggish handling (especially in atmospherics) and I can see it being outperformed by class-specific ships in the different tiers (aside from trading that is)!
Absolutely! I can’t wait for both of these ships in game, even though I haven’t bought an Orion yet myself. But both are going to be exceptional cash buys for the money, especially before their massive price hikes which I’m sure will hit them both of them very soon!
i just bought it because the loaner ship for it was the cat and i already had a cat but i wanted a fighter and the BMM came with a cat and a BD for a $50 upgrade from cat
And now that the loaners are a C2 and Banu Defender, that value just continues to rise! After several hours in the defender, I’ve fallen in love with it; especially its during Xenothreat! It’s a very capable fighter with a surprisingly large internal area, with two beds and weapons racks! But nothing is going to replace getting this ship in game, although it’s going to be well worth the wait! And thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
Hey Awesomenez Gamer, thanks for taking the time to ask a question! While they haven’t yet confirmed the BMM can directly repair from the hangar, they have stated that players can use hand repair tools and stowables aboard for some limited refueling/rearming in game. At the very least the hangar bay gives you a protected place to do that aboard the Merchantman! But with that said, I highly suspect the BMM will have advanced capacities to do this from within the hangar itself, at least with regards to the Defender specifically. Unfortunately we didn’t get an even longer panel, because it would’ve been fantastic to see some of the BMM’s future direction and to confirm more things! But based on lore, concept art, and it’s stated intentions, I foresee this hangar being incredibly useful beyond just a place to put a ship. For trading this is a separate secure entrance for other ships, but I suspect it’ll have a deeper unique benefit at least for Banu Defenders, where I think they will allow you to repair and refuel completely therein! While this current hangar setup only confirms limited repair and refueling via hand I suspect this will be expanded in future iterations. My reasoning is because the hangar isn’t bespoke and the developers hinted at a deeper interplay, and influenced by its in-lore use along with the most recent updates!
@@ViciDeum yes, pluss many of the ships that could fit into the hanger are single person ships, so while "engineering" game play isnt in, when it is in, this will at least allow the pilot a safe space to get out of their size 1 craft and repair it at least by themselves. so even if the hanger has no tools, any good medium to large ship should have a repair tool stuffed in storage to fix the ship, and being the merchantman, i think there is space for a few repair tools in storage.
@@15schmitd Absolutely agreed! And there’s a cargo area (labeled med bay) at the front of the hangar which looks like it could stow additional equipment for exactly that purpose! I suspect it may (given the labeling) have a Tier 3 med bay therein with some other utility features and space for cargo/storables. This would essentially have 2 separate med stations aboard the BMM, although I could also see some kind of access instead, just from there back to the med bay as well. Personally, I’m hoping the hangar itself directly allows ships to be repaired/refueled, or at the very least keeping that interplay with the Defender, and the existing capacity to hand repair/refuel any of the other S/M ships that fit!
What really gave me a chill pill for the BMM is the fact that this is a multiplayers ship. You cannot reliably expect to do much with it solo. The size 8 guns, fully functional fighter bay and point defences are a huge game changer. In fact, Perseus owners should start to worry about the fact that the Nautilus has now a pair of S7 gun and the BMM a pair of S8. Even the Idris S10 is starting to sound lacking.
Absolutely agreed! This is a ship that demands a crew, and I see as the flagship for an Org! Depending on how the hangar works out, running an Org from a BMM and having a crew of small ships refueling and repaired aboard a BMM’s hangar would be extraordinarily fun and useful! While I do some people inevitably running one solo, I can’t see that being a very successful operation! I do think a lot of balancing will come into play once armor values are properly implemented into game, where smaller arms fire won’t even be a consideration to larger ships. I’m very excited to see how it all plays out!
One S9 gun theoretically is more powerful than 3 S8 guns. so no S10 gun is not lacking. And you're forgetting that the BMM has to maneuver the whole ship in order to hit a target with those S8. And the same thing with the Nautilus. A Perseus can shoot at anything in a 360 degree area whilst moving a forward. The BMM is powerful for sure, but its not going to dominate everything. A Polaris will ruin its day, hell even a retaliator with some good shots in could devastate a BMM, not to mention the new Ares ships, with physicalized damage taking out some thrusters is all you have to do to make those S8 guns A LOT harder to use. I'm not a BMM owner, but I'm seeing a lot of people panicking about the BMM buffs, but IMO this ship has its weaknesses and is not OP.
@@brandonporter6223 I agree completely! Although after the most recent 3.14 combat balancing, 3 size 8‘ a could out DPS a size 10, seeing as 3 size 1’s out DPS a size 2 and even size 3’s currently! But I absolutely agree, the maneuverability of the ship will inevitably be its greatest weakness! That’s why I believe in combat, to be a memo excel in a zero threat type of vent where the targets are equally large, as long as there are enough fighters to help run escort! I actually see the BMM being countered by the Perseus, Ion and Inferno, due to their aggressive gun-based DPS, and noble handling potential since the BMM is likely sluggish but does have those 4 anti-missile and anti-torpedo turrets! And thank you for taking the time to share these thoughts, I really appreciate your contributions and the engagement!
Honestly massive front guns are useless if not used against others capital ships, so they can make them bigger and bigger to sell the ships because that do not affect the balance substantially.
Sedadox, you’re very welcome, I’m glad you enjoyed this video! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
Adam H, thank you so much for the kind words! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video, comment and subscribe! I really appreciate your channel engagement 😁👍
BMM owner, this ship will likely be around $1K when flight ready. I see this as a deep space resource explorer and trader with a Prospector (BD is larger than Prospector) and ROCs.
Vasili Zaitsez, I love this idea! Using the BMM as a mobile micro-mining operation with an assortment of ROCs and Prospector in the Hangar would be incredible!! Especially if the hangar allows any docked ships to be repaired/refueled! Although I think the Prospector can self-refuel if I’m not mistaken? And thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave your thoughts on this really unique, awesome usage for the BMM!
the banu defender and merchantman is the only ship i need in life got them with lifetime insurance and im pretty much going to do everything you said the video maybe more but i am going to be more of a passive trader that well buy and sell good to all walk of like if i am one of the banu race but dont get me wrong if you shoot first or anything i will attack back beside that im just going to be a passive trader in the verse
I agree completely, and this is my plan as well! I’ll predominately use the Banu Defender alongside my Merchantman for almost everything in game, and really look forward to the emergent gameplay that develops alongside being a trader! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum i am the same i only use my defender for every thing in the verse and once we do get the merchantman thats going to be my main ship and of course open shop for any one that wants to trade so come on down to Doctor HooDini Wondertainment where anything you buy is wonderful and useful
I don't see the Drop-Ship idea panning out (unless you're hot-dropping). Think one of the obvious cons will be speed/maneuverability. You Very Likely won't be getting in and out with any semblance of haste.
I agree RedSlate32, unless you were able to buy the BMM some time by running Hammerheads and other escorts, it would struggle in maneuverability. But if the captain could leverage terrain or another feature to try and position a long enough advantage for the Merchantman to deploy those troops, there might be a long enough window! With that behemoth comes shields, armor, and enough life support that hopefully lets everyone survive, at least through the landing haha. But looking forward to see how it all actually ends up panning out once it’s released! And thank you for taking the time to watch the video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
Hahaha, this is the correct answer! And the reward is diamond hands for every original backer that held out! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and drop a comment TheEVEInspiration, I really appreciate your engagement!
Nice video! I'm planning to buy the BMM and use it when the price rise enough to CCU it to the Polaris. But I'm scared it can rise too much the price. I would like to know your thoughts 😁
Eduardo, thank you so much for those kind words and I’m really glad that you enjoyed this video! After the recent modest price hike, I definitely think there’s a strong possibility it can still be used in a CCU chain! I suspect it will get another $50 or $100 price hike by alien week, although if they do have plans to release it before next IAE I could see that going higher! Worst case though, you’re still left with an amazing ship and one that would likely still be upgradable to a Polaris, Perseus and several others! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your questions, I really appreciate your engagement!
The BMM makes a fantastic token especially if you got it at concept! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I appreciate your engagement!
A while back CIG talked about the fact that they do not want to release new ships that do not have their functionality in-game anymore. So, do you believe that CIG will actually implement shops and vendors just in time when the BMM finally releases? Or do you think that CIG will make it solely as a cargo hauler on release and then develop the other gameplay loop later?
That’s a fantastic question! I believe their intention is to keep this for any new concept ships, but with an overall philosophy towards every new release! That being said, I highly suspect that this ship will release first with limited functionality, as just a cargo hauler, before the shops are in place, just due to their complexity and ongoing technical limitations with the game. I anticipate that the tier zero implementation of the BMM’s shop design will likely be static NPCs that spawn with the ship initially, but we will definitely have to see how it all plays out! But I’m hoping that we get the BMM sooner than having to wait several years after production finishes for the full implementation of its features personally! Either way I can’t wait for this awesome ship! And thank you so much for taking the time to watch this video and share that great question, I really appreciate the engagement!
Buying, selling, and looting is in 3.17. It’s already here, with some slight tweaking, a rough shop is already possible if the merchantman even released today. It’ll be there on release I’m sure.
P Bernad, thank you so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to not only watch the video and leave your thoughts, but subscribe! And on top of it, that this ship isn’t even particularly interesting for you! You rock, and I look forward to bringing you even more awesome new content! Stay tuned every Friday at 3 EST 😁👍
@@slissekgamingzone2385 Slissek Gaming Zone, thank you so much for sharing the video! Im really happy you think others will enjoy the content and I really appreciate the promotion!
i intend to stare at it in the stanton system and say "when they finaly give us somewhere to explore ill use this one day to do it" and then wait 10 years for pyro
Hahaha, an optimist I see! Hopefully sooner than that, but I agree it’ll be a long wait until we both see the BMM and even longer until we get its full gameplay implemented!
Just discovered your channel. Instant sub. I really like your enthousiasm! As a one ship Captain (meaning I own only one ship in the game plus it's fighter if he carries it) the choice was between the BMM and Polaris. I ended going for the Polaris, but still have a ccu chain to the BMM! Could you do a "5 best uses" video on the Polaris?
Jean-Kristof Bouton, thank you so much for the encouragement and your kind words! I’m really glad you enjoyed the content and my enthusiasm! And I love your objective as a “One Ship” captain. I think the restriction that gameplay decision imposes will lead to some really fun emergent gameplay! I’m designing my future play style around a similar concept with my BMM (in tandem with Endeavors), but I love the idea of using a Polaris for this! And speaking of, thank you for the fantastic suggestion! I will absolutely do a “5 Best Uses” for the Polaris video, and think that ship has a tremendous amount of potential! While I’ve got another video (in the same “5 Best Uses” series) already in production for this Friday, look for the Polaris video by next week or the one thereafter 😁!
@@ViciDeum Awesome! Can't wait to see next Friday's video! BMM and Endeavor tandem have the potential to make you so much money (or you know... producing illicit substance on your hydroponic pods on the Endeavor and selling it on your BMM)!
@@MonteKristof It’s going to be another good one, I hope you like it! And those are exactly my thoughts as well, with the Endeavor you can do so much from making illicit goods, legal consumables, or even a scrapper operation; Vulture (if it fits!) in tandem with an Endeavor using Hangar + Supercollider 👍
First of all, I like your videos so far. This is only my second. The corsair one and this one basically had the same use options, which should be a red flag for you. This is 4x the size of a corsair, both of which are not primarily designed for combat, yet both got that recommendation from you. There is a difference between being able to put up a fight when needed, and going out with the sole purpose of fighting. As for the BMM, I honestly do not know why they put 2x s8 on the nose of this thing. You will get one chance to fire those at a target. Anything smaller than an idris is going to easily stay off the nose of this shopping mall, meaning it will rely on turrets to defend itself. Taking a shopping mall into combat, exploration, and a drop ship situations would not be my suggestion. This thing is as much a drop ship as 2 football stadiums would be. This thing is absolutely massive. Try maneuvering 2 football stadiums in a combat situation. This thing is nearly a football field tall as well. Honestly if this thing turns faster than an iceberg, CIG will have completely lost it when it comes to ship performance metrics. Similar in size to an IDRIS. Larger than any other ships in game so far except the Javelin.
Power5, thanks for taking the time to watch this video and drop a comment as well, really appreciate your engagement throughout! Unfortunately there will be inevitable commonalities, as there will only be a limited number of gameplay loops throughout. However, ships in different sizes can run the same gameplay loop but with some differences between them! For instance, while the Corsair and BMM share combat as one of their gameplay loops, they both differ and how they execute that! Well the course I would be more apt towards bounty hunting in its current matter, the BMM would excel in a Xenothreat type dynamic event, where is maneuverability against large targets won’t be an issue!
I have the Merchantman and am so amped for the coming year. with size 8 guns and the way combat currently works i expect this to make relatively short work of a hammer head with just the pilot. clearly i dont see it taking down small ships solo, however it would be a good gunship if you got friends to go bounty hunting. cuz what is a small ship going to do? worst case scenario it has s9 torps. but then you have point defense guns. Also i got this then later thought of replacing it with the hull c or higher. thought about it, but as i traded with a catapillar then a hurcules c2, I was dealing with a lot of pirates and not having good defenses confirmed in my mind that i wouldnt want a space train (hull c thru e) i want cargo thats protected and a ship that can bite back, not just try to slowly limp away and put some poky quills like a porcupine. the C2 has some ok guns for the pilot but you realy have to have gunners or a escort ship to be protected. the merchantman looks like it can hit hard on the first hit. And has really good defenses. hope they put really good sheilds on it.
Absolutely agreed! And thanks for taking the time to leave another really thoughtful comment with some fantastic speculation! I feel the same way and think the BMM will be a deadly threat in Bounty Hunting as well! I personally see the BMM struggling solo, as the Hammerhead could outflank its guns and put massive pressure atop its fighters; given good enemy AI performance that is haha. But fully crewed I see this ship being an absolutely terrifying opponent. With this ship I would blast last the HH, decouple at full speed, 180 and bring those big 2S8 back to bear on target! I imagine it’ll make quick work once those shots start landing! And I completely agree, having the internalized armored and shielded cargo hold of the BMM will really provide significant protection against a large number of threats, as certain armor values entirely negate smaller arms fire! Rather than the current health pools which can be slowly whittled down, you’d need massive guns just to bring down the armor of a BMM!
yeah but the way to kill an HH NPC or PVP, is to out manoeuvre all of it's broadside cannons, We've tried with a carrack which almost has the same amount of fire power and no way in hell to defeat an HH with it, better luck with a bucc or a gladius solo. Best way is to just snipe them with cannons like with the 600i. I don't think the Banu will be that capable in combat.
@@juleswoodbury58 so every time you step up a gun size the range increases. the hammer head has size 4 guns. the BMM is planning on s8. if a s9 torp can go about 7.4 km and a s4 missile does about 4, we should be able to then accurately assume that range for guns will also increase past the current larges gun we have (currently s5 largest in game, soon to be s7 on Ares) so the BMM should be able to get at least a few hits in on the HH before its in range. Also the BMM has capitol class shields, the carrack and HH have s3 shields.
@@juleswoodbury58 I agree completely think that a solo BMM would definitely struggle. But paired with a good crew, and given both the scaling with distance and DPS on larger sized weapons, I suspect that the combat play style would be much different than the current meta, which relies on that maneuverability to survive long enough to whittle down shields. But once armor values are properly introduced, I think this style of gameplay will go away almost entirely, since the ships which could outmaneuver a hammerhead won’t have the penetration values needed to take down its armor. But while it’s all subject to change, I love the speculation and appreciate your participation in the discussion!
I want to get it but I have a lot of other money making ships. I'm on the cusp of just buying the rest of the ships in game. However, they say you'll possibly have to know the banu language to gain access to the bmm. And that it won't be an easy task. So buying one will probably be a lot more possible than actually earning one in game.
I’ve seen this as well and suspect it’ll likely be how they reinforce the rarity of this (and other alien) ships within the game, by reputation gating them behind certain factions (speculatively specific Banu Soli in this case). While I think you’ll still be able to buy them outright on the in-game markets (circumventing this reputation cost) the UEC cost of them will be likely be outrageously high! I suspect the cost to buy them from the Banu Soli directly will require end-game level rep and a wealth of UEC in its own right! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and drop your comments, your engagement means a lot!
@@ViciDeum "I suspect the cost to buy them from the Banu Soli directly will require end-game level rep and a wealth of UEC in its own right!"....as well as a working knowledge of the Banu language.
@@scullycasey I completely forgot, thank you! Yes, (while it’s all speculation) it’ll likely involve reputation with a particular Soli, knowledge of the Banu language (likely a prerequisite for the former), and a large amount of UEC! I can imagine reclaims on BMMs handled differently as well; at the very least being exceptionally long claim timers!
UnholySeoul, this is a fantastic idea! I’d love to do a video on the Kraken Privateer! Keep an eye out for that in the next few weeks! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave that suggestion, I really appreciate your feedback and engagement!
Gonna land this puppy on some fringe planet and have my crew sell goods, while I take off out of the hanger (with my avenger) and moonlight as a companion on said planet.
P-stylez, I love this idea, and it’s Firefly reference so much! They do say a companion brings a certain respectability! Just don’t forget that tea set and tapestries 👌 Thinking about that, I seriously love the idea of having Org mates with different rep rankings from various factions passing those privileges through the BMM which can be used to sell those goods (or services) aboard! I think would be really cool if somebody flew off in an avenger to meet up with a different faction (like around a contested plant on Pyro)!that they were specifically partnered with, to mesh together a one stop shop to then upsell at the BMM! It’s just an idea I had but it seems entirely possible! And thank you for taking the time to watch the video and drop a comment (and from one of my favorite Sci-fi shows no less), you’re a legend and a scholar!
Thank you, and me as well haha. I just love this ship and can’t wait to see the Merchantman in the verse! Fingers crossed we get to see it sometime this year! And thank you so much for taking the time to watch this video and share your support, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum oh it gets better. Phase 2: gather info on current client org. If contract is over but conflict is not. Re negotiate for a higher cost. If they refuse, pack up shop and offer your service and information for renegotiated price.
The ship isn't out yet. I'd wait to get on the hype train until it has been released and tested. It looks good on paper but expect it to be way worse than it looks like it should be. CIG will not allow a ship to be too op.
I agree that it will likely be balanced to fit within its role, but I do suspect that it will keep the large majority of its features including: twin size 8 guns, large cargo capacity, traveling bazaar and Defender hangar. As a trade-off though, I expect sluggish handling, especially slow atmospheric maneuverability, and likely multiple large components with just one or no capital class ones! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I appreciate your engagement!
do you think the BMM is worth it if its my only ship? im mainly a solo player that wants to do a bit of everything. BMM fits that but its minimum crew is 4. not sure if i could solo it. i could ccu to one from my caterpillar if i melt my entire hangar. not sure if thats wise. but at 550 it looks juicy. what do you think?
The BMM would definitely be difficult to solo! Even with NPCs it likely wouldn’t be very efficient, but absolutely possible; technically every ship can be flown with one person! But with that said, if you own the defender in tandem, and had even one other real player alongside, I could see a small crew running this with NPCs viably! You could start this ship off running in a partial capacity before scaling to fill its full potential! And at the current price of $550, a CCU would be an excellent idea; even if only leveraging the inevitable price bump towards another ship! I personally own a BMM, and will likely operate it alongside a few other people in my Org! And a ship like this will gravitate players naturally, as both a point of interest and to join as crew! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and leave a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
Hahaha, right on! It’s just become the sexiest ship in the verse, so that’s perfectly fitting! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment!
Unfortunately, I don't think that the BMM will play a major role in the Cobat, since the size 8 are tachion cannons and therefore hardly cause any damage
It is unfortunate that the current Tachyon canons are broken, but I think they’ll give them their proper balance before the final release! They used to be incredible, but unfortunately have had bad balancing in recent patches.
This would make for an amazing space club! The opulence surpasses the 890 jump in my eyes, especially if you’re a fan of the Banu aesthetic, which I absolutely am! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
Hahaha, here at Vici Deum productions we take no responsibility for purchases, influences or decisions made or inspired by these videos! But congratulations on the pickup, the BMM is one hell of a ship! And extend my warmest condolences to your wife! Although maybe pick her up a game pack too, you will need help crewing that behemoth and it’s hard to stay mad when you’re having so much fun 😁👍
I’d love to get the BMM assuming it’ll be cheaper than the liberator. But I had a referral ship that was a liberator and had CIG revert it to the merlin with LTI so I could possibly get it on IAE. But instead of the difference of 550$ being payed because the merlin was 25$ and the Liberator being 575, upon a reversion they jibbed me and only gave me 510 credit! it’s still a lot of credit but that 50$ can buy a whole ship, even two!!! Does anyone know the BMM price now?
Hey Phantom Ocelot, the BMM is such an amazing ship, I really hope you end up being able to get your hands on one! Unfortunately no one knows what the price difference will end up being at IAE, although I think $6-700 isn’t unreasonable, given it’s in-production and has had a massive recent updates. That really stinks though about the revision and the loss of credit. But fingers crossed, I’m holding out hope for you!
@@ViciDeum here’s to hoping, on one ticket they said 510 is what they can give even though neither the merlin or Lib changed prices. feels almost like extortion so let’s hope they correct it, or that breaks their site’s policy on exchange
@@PhantomOc3lot Yea that really stinks, and I’m still not sure why there is a price difference either. If one person in support isn’t helpful, try opening up another ticket and see if someone can help explain or assist further? I’m hoping someone can help you out!
I have to also take issue with both Drop Ship and Explorer ideas. There is no indication that it has scanning at the level needed to be an efficient explorer and there is there no indication that there is anywhere for troops to be for drops. Understand that because both of these game loops have not been fleshed out yet there are needs that are not yet explained. There are no seats for jump troops on this ship, it's meant to handle a "Family" of traders, not 50 Troopers, there are no seats for them. Just because it can carry cargo does not mean it has the height and width to carry tonks or ballistas etc. Range and medical facilities do not make an explorer, scanning does, the rest helps but without the scanning you got nothing. Trading is what this ship is designed to do, it's freaking awesome at it, cargo hauling as a secondary but it's a large, complex system that needs to make a big profit to keep working. It is NOT able to do anything else efficiently.
Hi Tim, thanks for taking time to leave such a detailed response! As I mentioned, these were just my speculative opinions. But I’m more than happy to support those positions, as they weren’t unfounded! You’re right that neither exploration nor capacities as a drop ship have been fully fleshed out, but we can infer a lot from what’s been developed so far. We know the Banu have used this ship in lore as their chief exploration vessel. Additionally, the holo table aboard the BMM shows a massive globe, which is often proportionate to star mapping capability. Additionally, it’s got a massive fuel scoop and medical stations, alongside the confirmed holo table! In its role as a drop ship, as mentioned in the video, the capacity of life support systems can be extended with shorter durations, and the main contingent of the force would be sitting within their vehicles aboard the gravity plated cargo hold, which could easily fit the number i mentioned! The Banu Merchantman won’t be the best at every role, but it is a dedicated multi-role generational flagship vessel of a race who use the very best technology available to them! I suspect this ship will excel in a number of capacities, even if a few dedicated ships edge it out in specific use cases!
For me 650$ no organization no experience no friends on citizen so I jumped in with both feet ...now what I have no idea what I'm doing or where to go...
It took a bunch of CCUs, but I built mine with LTI! Especially on a large ship like this, I can only imagine what those insurance costs would be like! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave your question, I really appreciate your engagement!
I imagine that with some of its increases in size, it may be lackluster in some parts of this role, but I do anticipate that it will shine with some of the best atmospherics for a ship of its size! And be more than capable of punching through any blockade with those size eight cannons! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum what i meant is it will be really good against pirate only if it can outrun QED ships but i doubt that. However now that i think about it the size 4 defence turrets have more range than the 2km qed range of a cutlass blue Also i didnt think about what you said baout target selection. True that as a pirate a fully crewed bmm wont be my first choice. Verry good point. Also i wonder if a mantis would fit in the hangar bay because it would make the bmm a verry powerfull pirate ship
@@038alpha Great points and a really cool idea pairing the BMM with a ship like the Mantis! I can’t wait to see this in game, fingers crossed we see it in 2022 😁🤞
All the ships in game carry varying degrees of armor, and I suspect the BMM will be especially strong! Atop that, if it has a shield generator like the Sukoran on the Defender, it’ll offer ballistic protection as well; only further bolstering it’s defenses!
Well I certainly hope that you are alive to see it! And I love the idea of a moving casino with rare items, possibly even as prizes? That could be an awesome idea! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave your comments, I really appreciate your engagement!
The moment it one shots a light fighter, and they complain about it, it will be nerfed into becoming as effective at expending combat firepower as an MPUV cargo. Wait for it...
I don’t think it will ever be as ineffective as a dedicated hauler, although I don’t suspect that it will be particularly effective against a fleet of fighters! But between those turrets, it’s front guns and it’s onboard fighter, I suspect the BMM will put up quite a fight! Although I do think it will go through a number of changes in balancing, as with all other ships in this game, especially after their release! But I appreciate you taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, thank you for your engagement!
@@Neogentronyx Thank you! I don’t think it’s going to be winning dogfights against fighter swarms anytime soon, but especially against slower targets and during events like Xenothreat I think it will be a sight to behold! But as with everything else and after balancing, we’ll just have to see!
@@ViciDeum That is all we can do. I have my BMM upgrade ready to deploy, but I must say, after the recent and controversial handling of another ship which was transformed into the exact opposite of what it was initially marketed, and sold as both in brochure and Q & A, I am a lot more hesitant to even consider giving them anything more. They control the game, but I control my wallet.
I think this is an excellent ship for transport, especially given its most recent design updates and its overall luxury stylings! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
This made me chuckle thinking of a Banu sales pitch about a BMM time share haha. I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy my delivery, but I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts! This is very much an iterative process and I take in all the feedback from these comments!
Thankfully you can buy every ship in-game, and get into the verse with just a $45 game package that includes a ship! Unfortunately the game is very unoptimized for almost every system, although newer ones definitely perform better. But I’ve played this game enjoyably even on 10+ year old hardware, using the settings guide on my channel to maximize performance! But I appreciate you taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, thank you for your comment engagement!
I think the BMM would hold its own against a smaller ship, and maybe a Polaris if it goes caught off guard, at least it could defend itself, but a Kraken....Those turrets on the underside of the Kraken are HUGE. What kind of shields does this thing have, Idris size, or bigger? A Kraken would either need a fleet of ships, with a few Polaris to bother it, or an Idris M, and good fighter support, or a Javalin, all the Idris-P's and K's will get wrecked, as they have no defense against the huge turrets, only the M has the missile bay to defend against that. So the BMM, without better anti-capital ship interceptors; not happening against Kraken, and even more so if it has all the fighters. An Idris P, yeah that be a fine match, those guns are big, and the P is crap. The K has some offensive abilities, but it's nothing that compares to the M, so I'd say they are about even. The BMM would get in trouble from 1 fighter to 3 fighters. But anything smaller than an Idris, no problem. Hammerheads will hate this ship.
I absolutely agree! The only scenario in which I think a BMM would beat the Kraken is in easy atmospheric landings and the convenience setting up shops inside a closed hanger planetside! Beyond that, I think a Kraken especially outfitted with fighter ships aboard its landed pads would be a serious challenge to contest the BMM! While I think a very skilled Aries or Ion pilot could outmaneuver and gun down a BMM, I don’t think that a hornet, gladiator, or Valkyrie could pose much of a threat. Especially if the size 8 guns are able to decimate the ship in a single shot! And I agree, there will be some ships that run in fear of the BMM and it’ll really come down to a skilled Merchantman captain to decide which targets are worth pursuing and which aren’t!
Jon Martin, thanks for watching the video and sharing your experience! And I agree, that’s an incredible deal! By the time the BMM finally releases, I suspect the price will be close to (if not over) $1,000!!!
What an epic group! Just had to watch the Helghast speech for some contest, man I don’t know the but I got chills haha. But I’d love the RP potential of ship-scale megaphones to engage in some psy-ops before combat, that sounds sick!
@@ViciDeum Admiral Orlock speech is pretty good too. Imagine what it would look like in star citizen on some organization base on some planet somewhere in the void.
@@INTHEWILDERNESS-00 Just watched it, absolutely chilling! It would be incredible to see something like that in Star Citizen, especially that fleet of ships! Even if just a fraction of that is possible with server meshing/future optimizations, I’ll be endlessly enthralled 🙌
One advantage of the BMM cargo hauling is that it is largest cargo ship that can land planet side. The larger hull series can only dock to a space station when full of cargo.
Eugene, this is a fantastic point that I had overlooked! I suspect the profitability of being the largest planetside hauler will be highly lucrative! And with its shop synergy you can then have locals browsing aboard while you’re offloading that cargo! What a fantastic idea, thank you so much for sharing!
The Kraken is the largest cargo ship that can land planetside.
@@schoolboymafia I stand corrected
@@schoolboymafia technically the kraken isn't even a cargo ship
However it doesn’t need to land planet side to sell if you heard park at space station sell planetside
This is actually something I came up with while daydreaming about this ship:
But one thing you can do is pose as trader in order to infiltrate an enemy fleet. Put a Sabre Raven in your Hangar and just before you get close to the fleet, launch the ship and let it gather information about your enemies fleet prior to an attack. While the main fleet is distracted by your trade, the Raven can use its data collection to gather vital intel.
Once it's all said and done, you could fly back, have your Raven land back in the Hangar full of data it collected. Then sell that Data to those who hired you. Not only do you make profit selling to the fleet, but also for the data you collected...
Profit $$$
SgtTeddybear59, thanks for watching the video and leaving this awesome idea!! I love the premise of having a stealth data ship that you’re running counter-Intel with! Hell, if you make good money of the trading it’s an added bonus haha.
Funnily enough, I remember reading on Reddit about someone who wanted to land a herald aboard a BMM for data mining while posing as a buyer.
It’ll be insane the level of role playing that could go into pulling off some of these higher-level ploys! I really think Chris and CIG are pushing for the type of game that caters to that play style, with tremendous freedom and robust gameplay mechanics in SC to support it!
Or just fire its EMP from within the hanger bay with the BMM powered down, power up, and start firing with the S8 guns
@@Shinzon23 Hahaha, yes!! Now if CIG can deliver this ship to us within a reasonable amount of time, it’ll be way more “testing” and less speculation! I don’t think I’ve ever been less patient or more excited for a ship release 😁!
@@ViciDeum ditto, though not sure people will enjoy the "testing"...
@@Shinzon23 Delends which side you’re asking 😂👍
A BMM/Defender combo is my fleet flagship. Lore says the Banu use BMM's as both warships and blockade runners, hence the armor and heavy firepower. It is also well suited as a VIP transport using the guest quarters and Banu's love for ostentatious luxury. These are besides the role of trader and cargo transport.
Absolutely agree! It’ll be the ship I spend the vast majority of time, and what I’ll be starting the verse off with!
I was entranced by the initial concept of traveling bazaar, flagship, blockade runner and alien home. These recent updates have only confirmed everything again and then some!
Honestly I was expecting some opulence after the Defender, but I was not expecting that level of wealth or sophistication! While everyone’s tastes differ, I’d much prefer to stay in a room aboard the BMM compared to an 890 Jump any day!
@RAYfighter I feel similarly about dangerous combat missions, although I could see the BMM running plenty of exploration missions if that’s the ship people are on when something “pops.”
I suspect people would rather jump right to the action (especially with what will be a massive best in class range on the BMMs Q drive), rather than wait to swap ships.
But we shall see! I definitely see the Carrack as a dedicated best in class explorer, which is used to acquire the goods to then deliver to the BMM! I think even if the BMM can do a lot of things, it should be beat by the dedicated ships in those specific roles, just from a balance standpoint.
@RAYfighter Hahaha, YES, I absolutely agree!!! I’m really hopeful CIG can keep metas to a minimum, although is suppose it’ll always be human nature to push for maximum efficiency in everything.
But I don’t think you’ll be disappointed walking up to the BMM the first time you see it in your hangar! And I know for me personally, I’ll enjoy some good role playing and sightseeing! And I cant imagine a nicer vessel for me to do that in!
I have this ship, I’m pretty excited for its release… I also think it will be around 1k on release. Can’t see how a ship of this calibre could be any less.
I agree completely, especially given all of the new features they announced in this most recent update! What’s curious is that the Merchantman isn’t listed alongside the Banu Defender for the upcoming IAE sale. I’m wondering if they’re holding off on selling it, to price hike even more for alien week next year 🤔
But at least it’s not a problem for either of us, and congratulations on getting this fantastic ship before the massive price hike! And thank you as well, for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
When I first got the BMM it looked to me like a fast cargo hauler with an alien charm to it. But now........ Its nice to have something I can do a hell of a lot more with. With how much I play a flexable support role in other games, this just feels like I'm getting the ship that fits me more and more.
Absolutely! I’ve loved the changes the BMM has gone through as well. I got behind the fast blockade runner, but the recent upgrades and growth it’s undergone are absolutely legendary! It just offers so much in one package, I cannot wait to have it in game!
I built my fleet around a BMM and Endeavors. These two ships pair synergistically, with the BMM serving as a sales outlet for items which have been "enhanced" by the particle accelerator, or cultivated in the Endeavor's bio-domes and processed in her labs.
Mark Johnson, thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave these great comments! That’s my plan as well, using Endeavors as a production facility for at least some of the goods which will be sold aboard the BMM!
Yes this so much. I just need to figure out how to operate multiple ships at once lol!
I wanted to do the same. The BMM being the central market and trading hub to sell the things I Mine, Salvage, Loot, or Create using the various other trade ships like the Orion, Reclaimer, Endeavour, etc. I just don't know how that will actually work in practice.
I really feel like we need a way to hire other players. Like an actual game mechanic. Hiring them would give them a regular wage out of your bank account, give them access to specific ship permissions you give them but they can be "fired" at any time, reverting those permissions.
@@JohnVanderbeck The answer will be org recruitment. Assuming that, after SC goes live, ships will no longer be available for sale other than on the gray market, there will be a lot of new players who will be eager to gain experience on the larger, more aspirational, ships early in their gaming experience. I plan to have a mobile colony, much like the Battlestar Galactica fleet, with miners and salvagers feeding into the Endeavors in turn feeding the BMM, with combat ships for area defense, and medical, refueling, repair and refitting support, and exploration vessels off base looking for the next likely locale when it's time to relocate. Thus, members of my org will have the opportunity to pursue whichever game activities most appeal to them, and to easily transition from one career path to another as they choose.
@@JohnVanderbeck This is an excellent question, and one that CIG has yet to clarify specifically! Initially there were talks that multiple game packages would allow you to essentially have a free hireable NPC aboard, with some talks that it might also be a player which a friend can “free fly.”
The only thing they were opposed to specifically, was having NPCs fly your other ships in any meaningful way (apart from deliveries). But with that said, having Org mates at least just at the helm, or even an alternate computer where you could keep a character logged in, seem to be the only currently viable options!
While I suspect they will keep the majority of that, as Chris Roberts has been very specific in wanting the captain of the ship to be a player, we will definitely have to see how it all plays out! And thanks for taking the time to jump in to the feed and reply to some of the other comments, it really helps the channel and I really appreciate your engagement!
7:54 Anyone else notice how the BMM’s shopping area looks like DS9’s Promenade?
You’re absolutely right haha, it definitely does share a resemblance!
If I find a small huge eared creature in mine, I'm flooding the deck with fluorine and watching everything dissolve...
@@Shinzon23 Or just hunker down atop the bridge/sanctuary, and vent all the other decks 😂. Although Aliens has taught me this isn’t Xenomorph proof haha
@@ViciDeum that's why the fluorine, because anything not made out of metal is going to have a very fun time with all the chemical reactions
So I could have a bar and a a dabu tables?
Personally I’d like to use the BMM to be sort of a negotiation ship for maybe two rival orgs to enter it as neutral space and discuss ceasefires and trades and act as a mediator between them. The negotiation room look perfect for it.
Philip Miethke, this is such an awesome idea! And thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment! I love the idea of using the negotiation room as a place to discuss cease-fires and organize treaties! And if you pair this with an Endeavor Hope Class, and you’re an unstoppable force of good throughout the verse!
the problem is, the game will be mostly npc driven, so no big orgs owning space , its more of a landmarks for building on moons , also the direction the game moves gives you the option to not interact with bigger orgs at all , and still get flithy rich. The BMM will probably be a good long range trading ship where you will be able to make a fortune on selling rare goods to different systems and not rely on landing somewhere. So sadly you must involve alot of RP to use it with the purpose you described . Everytime i seee those super organized EVE-like orgs i feel a bit sad that it will never have the economy or the player interactions eve is offering. People alrdy cried when you kill them when they pick up illegal-drugs at jumptown . Same goes for people that haul cargo alone and complain that they loose everything without a escort
@@0BLACKESTFUN0 It’s true that NPC will define the majority of this Universe! Although seeing how big role-playing is in some of the largest Orgs, I could see there being a place for this kind of thing in game! And the BMM would be one hell of a ship to negotiate in!
But I absolutely agree, unless CIG implements some kind of mission towards negotiation, the extent will largely be role playing, or emergent gameplay scenarios; wherein a BMM happens upon a war!
And the ship really will be an absolute moneymaker! Even players independent of a large Org will be able to make a considerable fortune using the BMM!
@@ViciDeum The problem with this is that there would be way too many BMMs willing to act as said mediator. It would be bedlam in choosing who to use as said mediator.
@@ViciDeum for role-play i agree aswell will have a nice asset to work with also maybe getting boarded on such ship might be a amazing experience for both parties ^^Ye the longrange ability to nearly trade anything everywhere is just the best thing you can have and this in large ammounts ^^
I've got this crazy idea of housing tanks and opening the bottom tray and top hangar of the ship for offensive or defensive capabilities. All around though, i will use this as a home base while exploring with friends.
I love the idea of deploying tanks from the BMM haha! And it'll make a fantastic home base to explore with friends!
It won't surprise me if the dollar cost of the BMM breaks the $1k mark due to how many features it has. (Same goes for the Carrack.) I'm in complete agreement of all of these listed, but I add in that eventually, it can be used as a bounty hunting headquarters hosting high end sting operations for pirate / criminal orgs & their players if not NPCs. Fill the shops with contraband that the criminals would want, have all of the shop agents be replaced with skilled bounty hunters & once enough criminals are inside, incapacitate them with non-lethal weapons, drag them to an Avenger Stalker (or Cutty Blue if it'll fit) & have that take them to be turned in for the reward. Rinse & repeat.
The BMM and the Carrack will definitely see prices that reflect the value they offer, the Merchantman especially so! And I love that use case for this ship 🤣 A pirate honeypot would make the perfect sting haha
I bought this ship back in Jan 2015!! I am super excited to see how this ship has evolved all the way up until now and have been waiting patiently and holding onto it this entire time and I cant wait for its release!
Congrats on your pickup! It's definitely been a long wait haha, but I can't wait to see the BMM in game as well!
Risking your BMM in combat would be foolish as this is a rare ship and will require longer insurance wait times for replacement, as a matter of fact I wouldn't be surprised of a minimum 48hrs on this ship.
Agreed, and I don’t think anyone should needlessly risk this ship in combat, as it will take an extremely long time to repair and there could be additional costs to reputation from the Banu Soli depending!
But given its combat proficiency, using this ship to target much smaller ships and even working through the VHRT bounty hunting profession, I could see being highly profitable!
Costs should be kept minimum as the predominance of the BMM’s weapons are laser canons (likely Tachyon), and with the BMMs ship armor it should negative most sub S3 ship weapons fire!
I think the real differentiation for top-tier BMM pilots will be knowing when to engage and went to flee a situation. I see a lot of pilots being overconfident with this ship, and quickly being overwhelmed or outmaneuvered, especially if attempting to fly solo!
Good point.
Just bought mine IAE last night, super pumped is scheduled to come out next year. Best ship ever
Congratulations on the pickup! The BMM is such a fantastic ship with so much potential, it’ll be an excellent companion for Pyro!
@@ViciDeum thanks, it's gonna be the perfect match, can't wait to tear out there in this beautiful ship
Watching this a year on and having just picked myself up a BMM and Defender, it genuinely looks like all the ship I'll ever need in the verse
Dev work on the bmm has paused you won't see it for a while
Congratulations on the pickups! Honestly the BMM is shaping up to be such a great forever ship in the verse, I can’t wait till I’m able to live permanently in mine!
I think the most overlooked use for the BMM is colonization support.
The Pioneer will have 600 SCU of cargo space to haul building supplies - that’s not much of you’re trying to build a real outpost. Hauling building supplies and selling directly to the settlers will be very profitable.
On the rogue/aggressive trading side of that, small orgs with minimal escort for their Pioneer can be leveraged with the BMM’s firepower - buy from us or kiss your outpost goodbye kind of thing. As a blockade runner, I think the BMM could also be used to enforce a blockade against settlers, further putting a squeeze on ‘customers’.
George Patton, I love this idea! I absolutely did overlook this, but that’s a really interesting game play synergy! And thanks for taking the time to be so thorough in your comment and for watching the video!
I think with the merchantman’s massive cargo hold, the support both from Its SCU and those size 8 guns will really come in handy! And with the merchantman’s hanger, you also have a very convenient runabout should any detours arise!
@@ViciDeum absolutely, man! I’m in the process of building a fleet and org to get into the space racketeering business, so gameplay elements like that are kinda how I analyze any ship - how will this let my org leverage small orgs into paying for protection. We’re not regular pirates because we’ll help out and protect our customers, but we’re not exactly regular traders either. We’ll be a lot like the old Italian families or German robber barons. 😂
@@georgepatton9958 Haha, I love the idea of you and your Org running a semi-nomadic space racketeering gang, where you force people to pay, but still provide good protection! I’ll just make sure you stay out of your space lanes, or pay my dues accordingly 😉👍
As an owner of a Merchantman, I plan on using mine to sell items my other skillsets acquire. As a salvager, cargo runner, and miner I expect to have ample supplies to place on the BMM to collect and then go sell.
JAS Aerial, thanks for taking the time to watch the video and share your thoughts on your intended uses for the BMM! I think those are fantastic ideas, and the trading platform of the Merchantman really allows for that utility! Being a loot goblin, playing the different loops and using this as a refurbishment one stop shop is a fantastic idea, that’ll be fun and extremely lucrative!
@@ViciDeum Very much this... I am a bloody loot goblin too and I will need some way to offload all of the loot I hoover up as I go profit being the motive. When 3.16 comes out I will have soo many things to offload.
@@BetaX425 Here’s to hoping we get the BMM sooner in-game than later! I know I don’t want to worry about someone middle manning my profits away! I’m all about that direct to customer entrepreneurship 👍
Picking one up during alien week this year! Of the current selection of capital ships I think this will end up being one of the best for everyday use. Almost went Polaris but the BMM’s armor, point defense, and dual s8 guns that don’t have to be “restocked” settled it for me. Even at the current price it’s a steal for what it is/will be.
I completely agree, and will be using the BMM as my flotilla home when it’s finally released! And congrats on the pickup in advance, the BMM is one stunning ship, with everything you need to live lavishly out there in the verse!
Technically the larger hull series can land on a few planetside locations (like Orison) fully laden but the BMM can land anywhere and it's just about the largest planetside hauler there is. The only one that could compete is the newly released Drake Ironclad and it has half the capacity. Also it might be possible to load the hangar with more cargo containers.
I plan to use mine for the same thing as I did when I bought it. A travelling bazaar.
Note, for #3 exploration, one important think you missed is scanners which I don't think the BMM will necessarily excel at. The BMM might be solid for exploring KNOWN space, but probably not for charting new space, new jump points, etc.
This ship makes such a fantastic traveling bazaar and its what sold me on it originally! The fact that it’s the only atmospheric ship current stated to allow players to sell goods is incredible! I am curious to see how the ship ends up panning out with regards to exploration, because I do think it’ll have great scanning but we’ll definitely have to see! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
Ditto.
I'm going to blast off day one on my Orion and my Odyssey, and get into all kinds of trouble with my salvage org, and then after a few years, I am going to fly to some of the starting areas, and sell all the new players 2 years of my adventures and tell them stories of what 2.0 was like; and old arena commander.
Hahahaha, I love this gameplay loop and your endgame goals! You will be a well-seasoned starship captain by then and all will come to revel in your tails of splendor and the days of old! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
To add a little tidbit, there is one other ship already in game--which just got a phantom price hike--and may be able to trade before the BMM comes online. CIG said (edit: maybe they didn't) a long time ago that the Drake Caterpillar will be able to equip modular shops when modularity comes online. Seems possible that could be on the hkrizon.
Can’t Snackbeard, thanks for watching the video and leaving this juicy tidbit! And wow, that’s really cool speculation I haven’t heard before! Are you suggesting it could be possible for the Cat to get a vendor/shopping module with it?! I welcome the idea and think it would be an absolute game changer if implemented!
@@ViciDeum Yes. There is an very old AtV episode I think where they showed early stages of the modules in development. Not sure if a shop module was shown, but I believe they mentioned it at one point as a possibility.
@@luckyqualmi Mr. Pink, I really appreciate you dropping that information! I’d love to check out a little more about the the Cat modularity!
I’m definitely going to pickup one (at the very least in game), it’s just such a tremendously useful and downright iconic ship!
You are the first person to leverage the BMM as a logistics ship. People talk about the mall for other players, not necessarily affiliated. Where it shines is as a depot for an Org. You can sell gear at cost from the mall to org mates that need resupply, without losing that much money. Being able to have a bunch of replacement armor, multitools, weapons, and armor available to your org at cost, discount, or even profit is a huge advantage for operating in the black for a long time. This means that your org mates aren't leaving the system to go restock all the time, instead just the BMM has to go back and forth when it eventually burns through its huge supply. With its SCU capacity, you can hold tens of thousands of weapons and armor pieces in reserve.
This also applies to exploration, like you brought up.
John Boyd, thank you for pointing that out! And I’m glad you appreciated my thoughts! The BMM has such tremendous utility aside from just the shopping mall, despite the usefulness of it! I’m really excited to see the combinations of things players come up with in terms maximizing the potential of this ship!
And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
i have seen al the info on bmm and your video is well constructed
Delarosa, thank you so much! I really love the BMM and I’m glad you enjoyed the video as well! And thank you for taking the time to engage in the comments and share your support, you rule!
Using it to haul race vehicles to the track like a boss.
That’s one hell of a flex haha. Or you can just supply for the entire race!
Nicely done video! I plan on using my BMM as a deep space explorer and trader. I really am excited for this ship!
Vagabond Prime, thank you so much for your kind words! I think I’ll predominately use my BMM for this as well, and I couldn’t be more excited for any other ship in-game!
And thank you again for taking the time to drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum I appreciate any SC YT channel that puts in the work, I think you're going to be really happy with your growth over the next year. Keep up the amazing content, I'll be waiting for more!
@@vagabondprime1691 Thank you so much! I’m humbled by the community appreciation and already blown away by the growth I’ve seen these past few weeks! I’m really excited for the future of this channel and Star Citizen, and look forward to bringing you some awesome new videos every week!
I plan on using the BMM as part of my own personal fleet. I'm going to be running around the verse searching for salvage and then rip. Components, fuel, left behind cargo and items out of them and transfer them to the BMM so they can be repurchased. Seeing the items just laying around and not being used doesn't feel right but being able to pass them off to someone who can makes it worth it. Of course if anything nice shows up it winds up in the bazaar otherwise it's stockpiled into the cargo hold.
I think this is an awesome idea, and very reminiscent of the Star Wars Jawa and Sand-crawlers! It’ll be really cool if they introduce a smaller salvage ship that could fit within the BMM’s hangar, so you could have an onboard salvager under the extended range of that massive Merchantman quantum drive!
And it sounds like it’s going to be extremely profitable! I’m really excited for the vendor gameplay loops and think CIG will do them justice! And thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate the engagement!
@@ViciDeum You hit the nail on the head, when I watch episode 7 and I see Rey pulling ship pieces apart to scrounge up something for that single meal she wants to eat. The idea of being on the brink of civilization... just you, an empty void of space, the ship, and her treasure trove waiting to be discovered. Pulling apart nick-nacks and doo-dads.
I currently I'm running a vulture as my salvage ship, hopefully they introduce another salvage ship as you said that fits in the BMM but time will tell.
@@hitmanstallion2697 This is such a cool idea, I really hope the Pyro and Nyx systems bring this kind of outer world/scrapper homestead!
I love the idea of going through a fresh capital ship wreck (or even a derelict Javelin), to pull apart bits and bobs to then sell for a living! I can only imagine the types of emergent gameplay that would have!!
As a former soldier, the BMM as a drop ship doesnt work really. The lift for the cargo is to slow and to small to ensure fast deployment. And the BMM is to big to come down fast and get the troops out. :D
But yeah, it will be a support and transport vessel for my ORION in my org. Or if we decide to go to a long exploration journey with my BMM and the org Carrack or Endeavour. Our fleet is planned for long time travel without needing much outside support like nomads.
Hey Otto Normal, thanks for taking the time to watch the video, drop a comment and for your service!
And I agree, the BMM is one really BIG ship! I definitely don’t see this dropping into a hot LZ anytime soon, especially with how sluggish the BMM’s flight handling would be!
But depending on how they “gamify” Star Citizen, I could see it still functioning even if it wouldn’t make a great real world equivalent.
In space I see the BMM working in this capacity as a snub carrier, opening the bay to let out a swarm of fighters. In low atmos like on moons, you could potentially drive out the opening without needing to wait for the bay to return altogether!
But I see this best in situations where atmospheric conditions force ships to ground several km out from a point of interest (like the infamous 2016 Citizencon video). Then the fleet could deploy at a safe distance, with the BMM still bringing that force into the action!
But I’ll likely use the ship as a long-distance deep trader as well! And I think it pairs excellently with the Endeavor, Orion and Carrack, as those ships can easily stockpile the BMM with its stores’ wares to then sell!
@@ViciDeum We will see, for the PU my dreams are on hold until they come near a beta. I simply wich to get SQ42 until end 22. ;)
@@ottonormal3354 Same haha. Although it’s hard not to daydream about the PU. That’s why I think making these videos helps to satiate that hunger haha.
And I can’t wait until SQ42 comes out. I would be stoked for end of 2022, especially if it generates new hype and revenue for Star Citizen!
With the amazing content I’m already seeing with 3.15 PTU on a company with a split focus, I can only imagine what amazing content we’d get with everyone working together! It’s going to be legendary!
Great video that earned you my sub :)
I think the BMM also will be a great mobile piracy base/ship for a small group of friends aswell. Imagine a Liberator, a Crucible, a Starfarer, a Retaliator and some hard hitting fighters inside/on the BMM and Liberator like Hurricanes and Eclipses. A small self sufficient fleet (repair, refuel would be possible without landing/docking) that would be able to take down cargo carriers and its protection. That fleet could carry all the cargo it "obtained" and could also sell the wares directly using the BMM.
Oh and "small group of friends" is relativ btw :)
Anyway, the Crucible and Starfarer could stay away from the action and remain unmanned in an asteroid field or nebula. Once the attacking players return they can then man the Crucible/Starfarer and repair/refuel the fleet. That approach would drastically lower the amount of players that would be needed.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your support and welcome aboard! And I think that’s an awesome idea, using the BMM as an aggressive pirate fleet with some hard-hitting potential, especially pairing with hurricanes and eclipses! And with the massive cargo hold and easy loading drop down design, I could easily see positioning it effectively in that situation!
And thank you so much for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts and support, I really appreciate your engagement!
Peep the area on the top of the bow of the BMM... People are speculating it's a s10 or larger weapon. If you look closely at it, it has the same exact design as the s8's on the port and starboard side. An interesting development indeed.
Hey Galactic Jack, that would be a really interesting development! And thanks for watching the video and taking the time to drop a comment! A size 10 weapon would be INSANE on top of the 2 size 8s that the BMM has.
I saw some speculation from Lawless Baron about the hidden S10, but I just don’t think this speculation was founded, even if the front end has similar housing designs. While I love the idea, the DPS from that would outgun combat dedicated ships even larger than the BMM, and would be a bit too unbalanced in my opinion.
But even with just the confirmed 2s8, the BMM will be an absolute powerhouse of combat, especially when paired with its escort fighter and with full PDS/turret coverage!
@@ViciDeum if it goes capital, it wouldn't be out of character at all tbh. That and the Banu are an alien race. This ship is their home, means of making money, exploring and funny enough, a combat ship for the Banu in times of war. So one more huge cannon wouldn't be too out of place if you really think about it. These ships are more then just their temporary abodes. It's their EVERYTHING.
@@galacticjack8480 I agree completely! This ship really is everything to the Banu, and I’m really glad to see they gave it such thoughtful attention. My only hesitation with that size 10 is balancing this ship in-game against the others. Since this was concepted as 3s6 initially, I just see the jump being a little too much for them to make with 2s8 and a s10, but we shall see!
Im going to be stoked once this ship releases, even if it’s just those 2s8! But I suspect even with the new size increase it’ll stay sub-capital, with 2 or 3 large shields and a good amount of armor (especially reinforced within the cargo hold).
This will be an absolutely deadly ship faced head-on, plus it’ll be able to withstand quite a lot! And once armor gets introduced, it’ll shrug off most weapons below S3 I’d imagine 🙌
yea i saw a video on the speculation. and i dont think it is. more likely computers.scanners. and so on.
@@DarthPulven I agree, and I think that the space would likely just be scanners, computers, and other equipment that the BMM would need.
As these ships were likely pre-existing Banu designs retrofitted with newer components too, it’s possible that the ship just may not have an optimized internal layout!
what we need is a flagship capable of transporting a dropship like the valkyrie, that can find LZ on planet surfaces with ease to carry land vehicles
It would be really interesting to see if the Valkyrie could overextend those landing pads on a Liberator for this capacity? But any extra ships with this ability are more than welcome in my eyes! Something like a dedicated combat dropship big enough for a Valk and a few tanks would be awesome! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate the engagement!
One hundred and seventieth subscriber!
Keep making videos like this and you'll get so many more! Great Work!
Random Task, thank you so much! Your support is tremendously encouraging and I really appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and leave these kind words!
I bought a CCU from a Hull C to one of these ages back, easy choice :)
Figured that way I get to play with the Hull C before perm swapping over to the Merchantman. I know this needs doing Before the game goes live.
OniMetsuki, that’s a great CCU and an excellent pickup before both ships increase in price! Although until you apply that CCU, you’ll still have to pay for the price of the Hull C at the time. But thankfully there’s still time before it’s price hike/release (likely) next year! And the Merchantman is going to be so incredible, well worth the wait! And, thanks for taking the time to watch the video and drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum Thanks for the reply and tip.
I bought the full set of various ships and CCU's ages back when they were first offered and got the best prices so I should be fine :)
I've spent too much on this game, but wanted to back a project from start to finish and although a longer journey than expected it has been an excellent choice with far more feedback from the team than I could have dreamed of! That and I have been a long time fan of Chris Roberts games from Wing Commander to Freelancer
(I almost backed Project CARS which gave Very little feedback to the community but SC appeared just in time ! )
Great video btw, I'm sure your channel will grow nicely ^^
@@OniMetsuki Thank you so much for the kind words, I really appreciate you saying to that! And that’s awesome, I’m just starting to build out my chains now! And I hear you, I backed this in 2014 so I feel you on the long journey; although it’s definitely tempered my patience haha. But it’s going to be such a worthwhile journey at release, it’s honestly such an incredibly immersive space sim already! And those 90s/2000s space games were so much fun! I grew up with tie fighter and dark forces too. Absolute classics!
@@ViciDeum Yeah, those games made for some great memories between myself and my brother.
I almost got a Golden Ticket, even had the page open, but unfortunately decided to finish a work project off before diving into this exciting new game.
Just re-reading my post, my full set of ships is certainly not The Full Set, I'm not that rich LOL
But will be a nice set of options for play and honestly mainly to support the game.
I've spent more money on "Free to Play" MMORPGs over the years than I've spent on Star Citizen which I know I'm going to love and have a load more fun with. So it felt rude to just buy a SC Starter package ! Because at the end of the day SC is far more F2P than those others...
@@OniMetsuki I absolutely agree, there just aren’t other games like Star Citizen! And as a baker of this game, the experience is so much different! Although they were legitimate initial issues from 2014-2016, CIG has reinforced a commitment to open development and directly incorporating community feedback! It’s so fantastic to see!
Not only are we helping to support this game with our purchases, but through feedback posts and play-testing; we actively support development as well! It’s just so cool to be a part of that in real time!
Haha, and that’s good to know! You would have quite the impressive investment put into Star Citizen if that was the case! And I’m not even concierge myself; although I have no doubts that I will be by the time this game is live 😅👍
This is the exact information I've been looking for, great stuff. I'm a hoarder when it comes to gaming so thinking I may need this
Kyle Turner, I’m really glad you liked this! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave your thoughts! The engagement helps and I really appreciate it!
I’m a hoarder in-game as well as a loot goblin, so this ship should help keep my inventory trim and my pockets full 😁👍
Got this back in 2016 ...... been waiting a long time to fly this. My only worry is cost to fly the ship day to day. I have a second medium ship for everyday use so I will use it to build up my funds at the start. Hopefully.
Picking up the Merchantman with cash will definitely save you a lot of grind in game, and running a medium ship will definitely help you kickstart this upkeep! Once you’ve got the Merchantman money-making though, you should be more than lucrative enough to keep it afloat!
And congratulations on the pickup, this is one beast of a ship, especially for the price you paid back then!
@@ViciDeum , thanks 😁.
I've got 2, with CCUs for 2 more. I plan to run a fleet of these. Protection by Redeemer and Retaliator, maybe a Hammerhead and Polaris in extreme cases.
Congratulations on the fleet pickup, those are some excellent ships! To get around the limitations flying only one ship at a time, are you planning on running multiple pcs to operate the fleet at once, or let Org members fly the ships on your behalf?
@@ViciDeum have a small org, each participant with at least 1 BMM, we will take Turns as to who's is in operation at any given moment, with the rest manning the ship and flying escort.
@@LordTiberius52 Awesome plan! Especially once you supplement any leftover crew positions with NPC, you’ve got an unstoppable armada 🙌
@@ViciDeum the real challenge will be finding time to play the game to the extent I'll need to. My wife is an attention hound, and she does not grasp the concept of a game that takes more than 30 minutes to play.
For me the BMM is both a home Base and a enabler, meaning I'd use the BMM (and whatever I'll put in it) as my base, rather than having a Pioneer build one for me.
Also, I'm a huge fan of looting in RPG like Fallout/Skyrim.
I'd take the ship from the BMM's Hangar while the BMM is safely stored away, explore caves and so on and bring the loot back to the BMM.
I know doing this alone would be rather inefficient, since the BMM could easily handle a whole squadron of people dumping their loot into it and I hope to find others to do this with. But it's more about the Gameplay itself than maxing the profits.
I never cared about the Kraken due to it's price (and I won't participate in F5-Wars), but I didn't know it couldn't land/take off when fully loaded.
MadIIMike, this was a fantastic read, thank you for sharing this comment and taking the time to watch the video! And this is my intention as well, but in tandem with either a main base or various outpost I set up along the way!
But I suspect that the BMM will be my primary home, especially given how vast and dynamic space is! With its likely massive quantum range, I’m sure the Merchantman will always be able to get to where something interesting is happening!
As a fellow loot goblin myself, being able to get to those interesting places and have a ship to not just store but sell all those goods will be incredible!
And the synergy with the defender makes such a fantastic addition! During Xeno threat I used the defender as my primary ship, because of the easy loading front entrance and powerful combat prowess! It kicked ass and was really easy to load, able to take the entire cargo hold from the whole StarFarer!
And thankfully, CIG has confirmed that with crew requirements the majority of the time those positions will be filled by hire-able NPCs who are expected to make up 9:1 of the roles and positions seen in the verse compared to real players!
On the ship I see them being able to either work aboard or have their wages paid by the ships/vendors!
And interestingly, the BMM is the largest trader and cargo hauler in the game that is capable of landing and leaving atmosphere unassisted while fully loaded! The Hull D and E can’t ever land when their cargo grids are loaded (they must dock at space stations), and the Kraken must use other ships! I see this being a big advantage for the BMM!
This series is the best
Eric Cattanach, thank you so much for those kind words! I really appreciate you watching this video and for your support! And I’ve got several more in this series upcoming so stay tuned for more!
I got this ship for 280 because it was a good deal. I wasn't interested in alien ships, but the closer it gets, the more it looks like the ultimate ship. I'm getting more and more hyped for it!
That’s an incredible deal for $280 and I don’t think you’ll regret that purchase for even a second once this ship releases! The BMM is truly shaping up to be one of the best ships in the entire game, I cannot wait to fly mine 😁👍
And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
You’ll have to be patient for sure as it seems the BMM won’t be coming out for another 1-2 years but it’ll be all worth it once it comes out. I recently bought the BMM this alien week.
@@baldmista1907 I honestly doubt it'll be worth it, obviously this video doesn't show the many design problems this thing has that would make it terrible for a lot of things it's supposed to be good at and it is overall very biased (for example I doubt this thing could be used in combat even npcs will be able to dodge its shots), now I could explain why I think it is really bad especially for trading if you want to read a long ass essay, but basically do not buy that thing as you will be disappointed, I would advise you to buy the polaris if you really want to spend your money on a "concrete" capital ship (that'll come out pretty "soon" apparently) except if you don't like combat
@@Stormyy6310 explain why cargo hauling on it will be bad. If anything it will be good. And the combat on it ain’t supposed to be good, it’s a fucking CARGO HAULER for christs sakes. It’s the largest cargo ship that will be able to land planet side. Meaning you won’t need to haul in cargo to a planet from orbit in something like the haul E.
@@Stormyy6310 also the combat on it won’t even be bad. If you have friends that can man turrets it will be good. Not to mention this thing will likely be able to hold a hurricane in its hangar bay. It’ll also be incredibly sturdy it seems judging by its capital shield and the amount of hp it will have. You’ll definitely be able to fend off pirates.
I have it and its my most anticiptated ship, i mean it looks awsome, its huge, it does everything well that you throw at it. I can see this easilly rise over 900 to 1000 dollars
Agreed, and my most anticipated ship as well! It’s a big ship but comes with such tremendous utility it’s really hard to find an equal! I can easily see this reaching (or surpassing) the $900-$1,000 mark! And thank you so much for watching the video and sharing your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
Love it
I was so fortunate to pick up 2 last year on War bond for $335 I believe to link chain to Aquilas who I then continue to link to last year free referral bike and this year Argo for BMMs in the $200 or so USD range 😁
A wonderful ship that according to lore will be very difficult to get in game.
(It reminds me of getting a G10 Glitter Boy in the Rifts RPG game, a multi-genoration total kick butt armor) but in ship format 😁
I plan to do all 5 of your recommendations plus lead my org Hadron from one of them 👍
Very good video, I subscribe 😉
Primeval Atom, thank you so much and welcome aboard! And congratulations as well, because that is an absolutely fantastic ship and those are some seriously killer savings!
I’m honestly surprised that they didn’t price hike this ship more during the IAE, but I suspect CIG will find an opportunity to increase it several hundred more by release!
And thank you so much for taking the time to watch this video, share and subscribe, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum Someone commented on the possibility they wanted some people to upgrade from the BMM into a liberator or Carrack to decrease the number of BMMs
That is why it was price below them.
While at the same time the Odyssey was price above the Carrack so that people would upgrade their Carracks to Odysseys.
Just keep the money rolling in as people keep upgrading lol.
Get that amazing ship that sales for $1000 USD for just $500 USD
(Don't pay attention to the fact you pay $500 USD for a game asset on a video game ,😱)
Ludicrous to imagine doing that just 10 years ago but very common now I guess.
I am just happy - enjoy the idea of the ships and just don't have the time to grind in-game in order to get them so I was happy with buying them and spend my limited playing time hopefully flying them 😉
@@VICT0RLAZL0 That’s a fantastic point I hadn’t even considered, but it absolutely makes sense! I think from a marketing perspective, keeping the amount of BMM’s limited but also allowing people to then pay even more during upgrade paths to other ships is a fantastically clever idea!
And I also buy these ships as a time savings as well, so I don’t have to earn them in-game and to test them out as soon as they go live! I do want to earn tons of ships in-game as well, but for the ships I know I absolutely can’t live without, I’m buying them with cash before launch!
@@ViciDeum one tactic I plan to use is buy the large ships, BMM & Endeavour, with CCU for under $250 USD.
Then sell them in game for millions of UEC.
Then buy any of the smaller sub-capital ships with the UEC.
Example, let's say the Endeavour or BMM sell for the same as the 890 jump $32 mill or so.
Then with that I can buy the Carrack for $24 mill and a Starfarer for $7 mill.
So one $250 dollar ship gets me 1 $600 & 1 $300 dollar ship.
Or something like that...
I hope my plan works 😅
if the cargo bay is empty and it allows vehicles onto the pad from the empty cargo space id be using it as a carrier to haul friends to and from pyro and even around pyro
ill also be using it like a outpost where i can land of dock in space and let friends and allies resupply with guns fuel ammo medical supplies and food that they cant get in pyro
It should allow you to shuttle ground vehicles up into its cargo bay using the Gavtech lift, as well as being an awesome platform for you and your friends to restock and resupply!
@@ViciDeum yea i just hope the lift has gravity and a cargo grid and some lights to see at night
I never realized how big of a ship I bought till i saw the xray lmao. But my plans for it are really to kinda make a space city lol and try and be a traveling salesman sorta thing
It’s absolutely massive, especially after the recent rework! I plan to use mine similarly, as a mercantile home away from home!
Plan to use mine as a base of operations as well as for vhrts and erts
I imagine this ship will shred VHRT and ERT, especially if flying with a crew! That nose canon and turret will absolutely dominate 🙌
@@ViciDeum agreed! While I will be solo most of the time, with a little practice I think I will make it work
It is the best multipurpose ship from the very beginning. Idk how would market work, but this activity is a huge point of attraction
I absolutely agree! For me personally, this is my favorite ship in game, and really represents the pinnacle of multi-role, sub-capital capabilities! And with its onboard marketplace, it’s just an added bonus atop it all!
And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I appreciate your engagement!
I used to not be interested in this ship but at least i was smart enough to buy a few CCUs when it was $250.. now im glad i did. This thing is amazing especially for $250 or less lol
The Drake, those are some fantastic CCU’s that you purchased! And congratulations on grabbing the BMM for its lowest price! As this ship slowly gets price bumps, you’ll pretty much be able to upgrade into almost any ship you want! That is if there still are any you’re missing haha!
And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
What I am concerned about is CIG breaking down the stats and capabilities of this ship into Variances so that not any one of them do it all. I would like your thoughts on that.
Atholl Moray, thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment! I’d love to explore this but just need a little clarification. Are you concerned CIG will create variants for this ship and the one you purchased won’t reflect the designs they mentioned? Like there will only be a medical BMM which has the medbay?
Or are you referring to something else? I personally think the Merchantman will be more restricted than others in terms of modularity, and I could see them not creating variants for this ship. And in terms of the capabilities of this ship (and it being too op), I think there will be serious drawbacks like it’s sluggish handling (especially in atmospherics) and I can see it being outperformed by class-specific ships in the different tiers (aside from trading that is)!
I am excited to see this ship and the Orion.......Both ships will be major game-changers to the verse
Absolutely! I can’t wait for both of these ships in game, even though I haven’t bought an Orion yet myself. But both are going to be exceptional cash buys for the money, especially before their massive price hikes which I’m sure will hit them both of them very soon!
i just bought it because the loaner ship for it was the cat and i already had a cat but i wanted a fighter and the BMM came with a cat and a BD for a $50 upgrade from cat
And now that the loaners are a C2 and Banu Defender, that value just continues to rise! After several hours in the defender, I’ve fallen in love with it; especially its during Xenothreat! It’s a very capable fighter with a surprisingly large internal area, with two beds and weapons racks!
But nothing is going to replace getting this ship in game, although it’s going to be well worth the wait!
And thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
Definitely getting one when the next IAE goes live
It’s such a fantastic ship, you won’t regret it!
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Congratulations on the pickup, that Merchantman will serve you and your Starburst slingers very well 😁👍!
When did they confirm the hangar can repair? If so that's a big game changer.
Hey Awesomenez Gamer, thanks for taking the time to ask a question! While they haven’t yet confirmed the BMM can directly repair from the hangar, they have stated that players can use hand repair tools and stowables aboard for some limited refueling/rearming in game.
At the very least the hangar bay gives you a protected place to do that aboard the Merchantman!
But with that said, I highly suspect the BMM will have advanced capacities to do this from within the hangar itself, at least with regards to the Defender specifically.
Unfortunately we didn’t get an even longer panel, because it would’ve been fantastic to see some of the BMM’s future direction and to confirm more things!
But based on lore, concept art, and it’s stated intentions, I foresee this hangar being incredibly useful beyond just a place to put a ship.
For trading this is a separate secure entrance for other ships, but I suspect it’ll have a deeper unique benefit at least for Banu Defenders, where I think they will
allow you to repair and refuel completely therein!
While this current hangar setup only confirms limited repair and refueling via hand I suspect this will be expanded in future iterations. My reasoning is because the hangar isn’t bespoke and the developers hinted at a deeper interplay, and influenced by its in-lore use along with the most recent updates!
@@ViciDeum yes, pluss many of the ships that could fit into the hanger are single person ships, so while "engineering" game play isnt in, when it is in, this will at least allow the pilot a safe space to get out of their size 1 craft and repair it at least by themselves. so even if the hanger has no tools, any good medium to large ship should have a repair tool stuffed in storage to fix the ship, and being the merchantman, i think there is space for a few repair tools in storage.
@@15schmitd Absolutely agreed! And there’s a cargo area (labeled med bay) at the front of the hangar which looks like it could stow additional equipment for exactly that purpose!
I suspect it may (given the labeling) have a Tier 3 med bay therein with some other utility features and space for cargo/storables. This would essentially have 2 separate med stations aboard the BMM, although I could also see some kind of access instead, just from there back to the med bay as well.
Personally, I’m hoping the hangar itself directly allows ships to be repaired/refueled, or at the very least keeping that interplay with the Defender, and the existing capacity to hand repair/refuel any of the other S/M ships that fit!
Resupply and a fence ship no questions asked smuggling between planets
It'll be such an amazing ship for selling stolen contraband, I can't wait!
What really gave me a chill pill for the BMM is the fact that this is a multiplayers ship. You cannot reliably expect to do much with it solo. The size 8 guns, fully functional fighter bay and point defences are a huge game changer.
In fact, Perseus owners should start to worry about the fact that the Nautilus has now a pair of S7 gun and the BMM a pair of S8. Even the Idris S10 is starting to sound lacking.
Absolutely agreed! This is a ship that demands a crew, and I see as the flagship for an Org!
Depending on how the hangar works out, running an Org from a BMM and having a crew of small ships refueling and repaired aboard a BMM’s hangar would be extraordinarily fun and useful!
While I do some people inevitably running one solo, I can’t see that being a very successful operation!
I do think a lot of balancing will come into play once armor values are properly implemented into game, where smaller arms fire won’t even be a consideration to larger ships. I’m very excited to see how it all plays out!
One S9 gun theoretically is more powerful than 3 S8 guns. so no S10 gun is not lacking.
And you're forgetting that the BMM has to maneuver the whole ship in order to hit a target with those S8. And the same thing with the Nautilus. A Perseus can shoot at anything in a 360 degree area whilst moving a forward. The BMM is powerful for sure, but its not going to dominate everything. A Polaris will ruin its day, hell even a retaliator with some good shots in could devastate a BMM, not to mention the new Ares ships, with physicalized damage taking out some thrusters is all you have to do to make those S8 guns A LOT harder to use. I'm not a BMM owner, but I'm seeing a lot of people panicking about the BMM buffs, but IMO this ship has its weaknesses and is not OP.
@@brandonporter6223 I agree completely! Although after the most recent 3.14 combat balancing, 3 size 8‘ a could out DPS a size 10, seeing as 3 size 1’s out DPS a size 2 and even size 3’s currently!
But I absolutely agree, the maneuverability of the ship will inevitably be its greatest weakness! That’s why I believe in combat, to be a memo excel in a zero threat type of vent where the targets are equally large, as long as there are enough fighters to help run escort!
I actually see the BMM being countered by the Perseus, Ion and Inferno, due to their aggressive gun-based DPS, and noble handling potential since the BMM is likely sluggish but does have those 4 anti-missile and anti-torpedo turrets!
And thank you for taking the time to share these thoughts, I really appreciate your contributions and the engagement!
Honestly massive front guns are useless if not used against others capital ships, so they can make them bigger and bigger to sell the ships because that do not affect the balance substantially.
Thx for this!
Sedadox, you’re very welcome, I’m glad you enjoyed this video! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
I got mine for 250 usd . I am happy
Congratulations on that awesome deal!
Liked, subbed, brilliant SC content. Keep it up
Adam H, thank you so much for the kind words! And thank you for taking the time to watch this video, comment and subscribe! I really appreciate your channel engagement 😁👍
BMM owner, this ship will likely be around $1K when flight ready. I see this as a deep space resource explorer and trader with a Prospector (BD is larger than Prospector) and ROCs.
Vasili Zaitsez, I love this idea! Using the BMM as a mobile micro-mining operation with an assortment of ROCs and Prospector in the Hangar would be incredible!! Especially if the hangar allows any docked ships to be repaired/refueled! Although I think the Prospector can self-refuel if I’m not mistaken? And thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave your thoughts on this really unique, awesome usage for the BMM!
the banu defender and merchantman is the only ship i need in life got them with lifetime insurance and im pretty much going to do everything you said the video maybe more but i am going to be more of a passive trader that well buy and sell good to all walk of like if i am one of the banu race but dont get me wrong if you shoot first or anything i will attack back beside that im just going to be a passive trader in the verse
I agree completely, and this is my plan as well! I’ll predominately use the Banu Defender alongside my Merchantman for almost everything in game, and really look forward to the emergent gameplay that develops alongside being a trader!
And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum i am the same i only use my defender for every thing in the verse and once we do get the merchantman thats going to be my main ship and of course open shop for any one that wants to trade
so come on down to Doctor HooDini Wondertainment where anything you buy is wonderful and useful
I don't see the Drop-Ship idea panning out (unless you're hot-dropping). Think one of the obvious cons will be speed/maneuverability. You Very Likely won't be getting in and out with any semblance of haste.
I agree RedSlate32, unless you were able to buy the BMM some time by running Hammerheads and other escorts, it would struggle in maneuverability. But if the captain could leverage terrain or another feature to try and position a long enough advantage for the Merchantman to deploy those troops, there might be a long enough window! With that behemoth comes shields, armor, and enough life support that hopefully lets everyone survive, at least through the landing haha.
But looking forward to see how it all actually ends up panning out once it’s released! And thank you for taking the time to watch the video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
1: Training patience :)
Hahaha, this is the correct answer! And the reward is diamond hands for every original backer that held out! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and drop a comment TheEVEInspiration, I really appreciate your engagement!
Nice video! I'm planning to buy the BMM and use it when the price rise enough to CCU it to the Polaris. But I'm scared it can rise too much the price. I would like to know your thoughts 😁
Eduardo, thank you so much for those kind words and I’m really glad that you enjoyed this video! After the recent modest price hike, I definitely think there’s a strong possibility it can still be used in a CCU chain!
I suspect it will get another $50 or $100 price hike by alien week, although if they do have plans to release it before next IAE I could see that going higher!
Worst case though, you’re still left with an amazing ship and one that would likely still be upgradable to a Polaris, Perseus and several others!
And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your questions, I really appreciate your engagement!
My best use of the BMM was using it as a Token.
The BMM makes a fantastic token especially if you got it at concept! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I appreciate your engagement!
A while back CIG talked about the fact that they do not want to release new ships that do not have their functionality in-game anymore. So, do you believe that CIG will actually implement shops and vendors just in time when the BMM finally releases? Or do you think that CIG will make it solely as a cargo hauler on release and then develop the other gameplay loop later?
That’s a fantastic question! I believe their intention is to keep this for any new concept ships, but with an overall philosophy towards every new release!
That being said, I highly suspect that this ship will release first with limited functionality, as just a cargo hauler, before the shops are in place, just due to their complexity and ongoing technical limitations with the game.
I anticipate that the tier zero implementation of the BMM’s shop design will likely be static NPCs that spawn with the ship initially, but we will definitely have to see how it all plays out!
But I’m hoping that we get the BMM sooner than having to wait several years after production finishes for the full implementation of its features personally! Either way I can’t wait for this awesome ship!
And thank you so much for taking the time to watch this video and share that great question, I really appreciate the engagement!
Buying, selling, and looting is in 3.17. It’s already here, with some slight tweaking, a rough shop is already possible if the merchantman even released today. It’ll be there on release I’m sure.
Definitely not a ship for me, but love your take on it! Thanks for the great content - youve earned another sub!
P Bernad, thank you so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to not only watch the video and leave your thoughts, but subscribe! And on top of it, that this ship isn’t even particularly interesting for you!
You rock, and I look forward to bringing you even more awesome new content! Stay tuned every Friday at 3 EST 😁👍
Great job describing all that.
Hi Slissek Gaming Zone, thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment! I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
@@ViciDeum I just shared your video in my org. Nicely done. 💪🏼
@@slissekgamingzone2385 Slissek Gaming Zone, thank you so much for sharing the video! Im really happy you think others will enjoy the content and I really appreciate the promotion!
i intend to stare at it in the stanton system and say "when they finaly give us somewhere to explore ill use this one day to do it" and then wait 10 years for pyro
Hahaha, an optimist I see! Hopefully sooner than that, but I agree it’ll be a long wait until we both see the BMM and even longer until we get its full gameplay implemented!
Watching this before i buy it on IAE next month.
Glad to have you here, and an early congrats on your purchase!
Just discovered your channel. Instant sub. I really like your enthousiasm! As a one ship Captain (meaning I own only one ship in the game plus it's fighter if he carries it) the choice was between the BMM and Polaris. I ended going for the Polaris, but still have a ccu chain to the BMM!
Could you do a "5 best uses" video on the Polaris?
Jean-Kristof Bouton, thank you so much for the encouragement and your kind words! I’m really glad you enjoyed the content and my enthusiasm! And I love your objective as a “One Ship” captain. I think the restriction that gameplay decision imposes will lead to some really fun emergent gameplay!
I’m designing my future play style around a similar concept with my BMM (in tandem with Endeavors), but I love the idea of using a Polaris for this!
And speaking of, thank you for the fantastic suggestion! I will absolutely do a “5 Best Uses” for the Polaris video, and think that ship has a tremendous amount of potential!
While I’ve got another video (in the same “5 Best Uses” series) already in production for this Friday, look for the Polaris video by next week or the one thereafter 😁!
@@ViciDeum Awesome! Can't wait to see next Friday's video! BMM and Endeavor tandem have the potential to make you so much money (or you know... producing illicit substance on your hydroponic pods on the Endeavor and selling it on your BMM)!
@@MonteKristof It’s going to be another good one, I hope you like it! And those are exactly my thoughts as well, with the Endeavor you can do so much from making illicit goods, legal consumables, or even a scrapper operation; Vulture (if it fits!) in tandem with an Endeavor using Hangar + Supercollider 👍
First of all, I like your videos so far. This is only my second. The corsair one and this one basically had the same use options, which should be a red flag for you. This is 4x the size of a corsair, both of which are not primarily designed for combat, yet both got that recommendation from you. There is a difference between being able to put up a fight when needed, and going out with the sole purpose of fighting.
As for the BMM, I honestly do not know why they put 2x s8 on the nose of this thing. You will get one chance to fire those at a target. Anything smaller than an idris is going to easily stay off the nose of this shopping mall, meaning it will rely on turrets to defend itself. Taking a shopping mall into combat, exploration, and a drop ship situations would not be my suggestion. This thing is as much a drop ship as 2 football stadiums would be. This thing is absolutely massive. Try maneuvering 2 football stadiums in a combat situation. This thing is nearly a football field tall as well. Honestly if this thing turns faster than an iceberg, CIG will have completely lost it when it comes to ship performance metrics. Similar in size to an IDRIS. Larger than any other ships in game so far except the Javelin.
Power5, thanks for taking the time to watch this video and drop a comment as well, really appreciate your engagement throughout! Unfortunately there will be inevitable commonalities, as there will only be a limited number of gameplay loops throughout. However, ships in different sizes can run the same gameplay loop but with some differences between them!
For instance, while the Corsair and BMM share combat as one of their gameplay loops, they both differ and how they execute that! Well the course I would be more apt towards bounty hunting in its current matter, the BMM would excel in a Xenothreat type dynamic event, where is maneuverability against large targets won’t be an issue!
I have the Merchantman and am so amped for the coming year. with size 8 guns and the way combat currently works i expect this to make relatively short work of a hammer head with just the pilot. clearly i dont see it taking down small ships solo, however it would be a good gunship if you got friends to go bounty hunting. cuz what is a small ship going to do? worst case scenario it has s9 torps. but then you have point defense guns. Also i got this then later thought of replacing it with the hull c or higher. thought about it, but as i traded with a catapillar then a hurcules c2, I was dealing with a lot of pirates and not having good defenses confirmed in my mind that i wouldnt want a space train (hull c thru e) i want cargo thats protected and a ship that can bite back, not just try to slowly limp away and put some poky quills like a porcupine. the C2 has some ok guns for the pilot but you realy have to have gunners or a escort ship to be protected. the merchantman looks like it can hit hard on the first hit. And has really good defenses. hope they put really good sheilds on it.
Absolutely agreed! And thanks for taking the time to leave another really thoughtful comment with some fantastic speculation! I feel the same way and think the BMM will be a deadly threat in Bounty Hunting as well!
I personally see the BMM struggling solo, as the Hammerhead could outflank its guns and put massive pressure atop its fighters; given good enemy AI performance that is haha.
But fully crewed I see this ship being an absolutely terrifying opponent. With this ship I would blast last the HH, decouple at full speed, 180 and bring those big 2S8 back to bear on target! I imagine it’ll make quick work once those shots start landing!
And I completely agree, having the internalized armored and shielded cargo hold of the BMM will really provide significant protection against a large number of threats, as certain armor values entirely negate smaller arms fire! Rather than the current health pools which can be slowly whittled down, you’d need massive guns just to bring down the armor of a BMM!
yeah but the way to kill an HH NPC or PVP, is to out manoeuvre all of it's broadside cannons, We've tried with a carrack which almost has the same amount of fire power and no way in hell to defeat an HH with it, better luck with a bucc or a gladius solo. Best way is to just snipe them with cannons like with the 600i. I don't think the Banu will be that capable in combat.
@@juleswoodbury58 so every time you step up a gun size the range increases. the hammer head has size 4 guns. the BMM is planning on s8. if a s9 torp can go about 7.4 km and a s4 missile does about 4, we should be able to then accurately assume that range for guns will also increase past the current larges gun we have (currently s5 largest in game, soon to be s7 on Ares) so the BMM should be able to get at least a few hits in on the HH before its in range. Also the BMM has capitol class shields, the carrack and HH have s3 shields.
@@juleswoodbury58 also ive used my connie to take out a npc HH when it seamed to be working correctly. although i do doubt i could pvp
@@juleswoodbury58 I agree completely think that a solo BMM would definitely struggle. But paired with a good crew, and given both the scaling with distance and DPS on larger sized weapons, I suspect that the combat play style would be much different than the current meta, which relies on that maneuverability to survive long enough to whittle down shields.
But once armor values are properly introduced, I think this style of gameplay will go away almost entirely, since the ships which could outmaneuver a hammerhead won’t have the penetration values needed to take down its armor. But while it’s all subject to change, I love the speculation and appreciate your participation in the discussion!
I want to get it but I have a lot of other money making ships. I'm on the cusp of just buying the rest of the ships in game. However, they say you'll possibly have to know the banu language to gain access to the bmm. And that it won't be an easy task. So buying one will probably be a lot more possible than actually earning one in game.
I’ve seen this as well and suspect it’ll likely be how they reinforce the rarity of this (and other alien) ships within the game, by reputation gating them behind certain factions (speculatively specific Banu Soli in this case).
While I think you’ll still be able to buy them outright on the in-game markets (circumventing this reputation cost) the UEC cost of them will be likely be outrageously high! I suspect the cost to buy them from the Banu Soli directly will require end-game level rep and a wealth of UEC in its own right!
And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and drop your comments, your engagement means a lot!
@@ViciDeum "I suspect the cost to buy them from the Banu Soli directly will require end-game level rep and a wealth of UEC in its own right!"....as well as a working knowledge of the Banu language.
@@scullycasey I completely forgot, thank you! Yes, (while it’s all speculation) it’ll likely involve reputation with a particular Soli, knowledge of the Banu language (likely a prerequisite for the former), and a large amount of UEC! I can imagine reclaims on BMMs handled differently as well; at the very least being exceptionally long claim timers!
Is this able to be purchased during alien week? I know it’s not out yet
Great question! Yes, this ship will be available (almost guaranteed) for purchase during Alien week, immediately following this Invictus!
Great job! Would love to see a similar video for the Kraken Privateer.
UnholySeoul, this is a fantastic idea! I’d love to do a video on the Kraken Privateer! Keep an eye out for that in the next few weeks! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave that suggestion, I really appreciate your feedback and engagement!
when does this come out
That’s the million dollar question, and sadly no one has an answer. I suspect we’ll see it in about 18 months, but that’s really just a guess!
Gonna land this puppy on some fringe planet and have my crew sell goods, while I take off out of the hanger (with my avenger) and moonlight as a companion on said planet.
P-stylez, I love this idea, and it’s Firefly reference so much! They do say a companion brings a certain respectability! Just don’t forget that tea set and tapestries 👌
Thinking about that, I seriously love the idea of having Org mates with different rep rankings from various factions passing those privileges through the BMM which can be used to sell those goods (or services) aboard!
I think would be really cool if somebody flew off in an avenger to meet up with a different faction (like around a contested plant on Pyro)!that they were specifically partnered with, to mesh together a one stop shop to then upsell at the BMM! It’s just an idea I had but it seems entirely possible!
And thank you for taking the time to watch the video and drop a comment (and from one of my favorite Sci-fi shows no less), you’re a legend and a scholar!
Wish I could upvote more than once >_
Thank you, and me as well haha. I just love this ship and can’t wait to see the Merchantman in the verse! Fingers crossed we get to see it sometime this year! And thank you so much for taking the time to watch this video and share your support, I really appreciate your engagement!
See, My plan was to be an iron merchant, following the tide of war.
That’s a smart idea, profiteering form the periphery while not being directly entangled in the conflict!
@@ViciDeum oh it gets better. Phase 2: gather info on current client org. If contract is over but conflict is not. Re negotiate for a higher cost. If they refuse, pack up shop and offer your service and information for renegotiated price.
The ship isn't out yet. I'd wait to get on the hype train until it has been released and tested. It looks good on paper but expect it to be way worse than it looks like it should be. CIG will not allow a ship to be too op.
I agree that it will likely be balanced to fit within its role, but I do suspect that it will keep the large majority of its features including: twin size 8 guns, large cargo capacity, traveling bazaar and Defender hangar.
As a trade-off though, I expect sluggish handling, especially slow atmospheric maneuverability, and likely multiple large components with just one or no capital class ones!
And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum It will be awesome to see it finally in game either way. Godspeed fellow citizen :3
@@gravitycat7874 Absolutely, it’s my most anticipated ship release! And thank you, you as well o7!
do you think the BMM is worth it if its my only ship? im mainly a solo player that wants to do a bit of everything. BMM fits that but its minimum crew is 4. not sure if i could solo it.
i could ccu to one from my caterpillar if i melt my entire hangar. not sure if thats wise. but at 550 it looks juicy. what do you think?
The BMM would definitely be difficult to solo! Even with NPCs it likely wouldn’t be very efficient, but absolutely possible; technically every ship can be flown with one person! But with that said, if you own the defender in tandem, and had even one other real player alongside, I could see a small crew running this with NPCs viably! You could start this ship off running in a partial capacity before scaling to fill its full potential!
And at the current price of $550, a CCU would be an excellent idea; even if only leveraging the inevitable price bump towards another ship! I personally own a BMM, and will likely operate it alongside a few other people in my Org! And a ship like this will gravitate players naturally, as both a point of interest and to join as crew!
And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and leave a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
I'm using mine as a space-brothel...
Hahaha, right on! It’s just become the sexiest ship in the verse, so that’s perfectly fitting! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment!
@@ViciDeum It was a good video, well thought through. Ty... liked and subbed xD
@@Nemoticon Thank you so much for your support, and I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
About 6mil auec in beryl sold to orison for 1.5mil auec in profit, done in one trip.
Congrats on your earnings, that’s one hell of a profit!
Hypothetically, if the Merchantman can indeed land on planet and take off with a full load of Beryl. Still stands to be seen. ;)@@ViciDeum
Unfortunately, I don't think that the BMM will play a major role in the Cobat, since the size 8 are tachion cannons and therefore hardly cause any damage
It is unfortunate that the current Tachyon canons are broken, but I think they’ll give them their proper balance before the final release! They used to be incredible, but unfortunately have had bad balancing in recent patches.
@@ViciDeum Ah ok
I hope so too
@@ViciDeum By the way Good Video
@@justingaminglp4440 Thank you so much!
space club 🎵🎵🎼🎼🎼🎼
This would make for an amazing space club! The opulence surpasses the 890 jump in my eyes, especially if you’re a fan of the Banu aesthetic, which I absolutely am! And thanks for taking the time to watch the video and drop a comment, I really appreciate your engagement!
Your video just made me buy the BMM , thanks i gues . My wife hates you
Hahaha, here at Vici Deum productions we take no responsibility for purchases, influences or decisions made or inspired by these videos!
But congratulations on the pickup, the BMM is one hell of a ship! And extend my warmest condolences to your wife! Although maybe pick her up a game pack too, you will need help crewing that behemoth and it’s hard to stay mad when you’re having so much fun 😁👍
I’d love to get the BMM assuming it’ll be cheaper than the liberator. But I had a referral ship that was a liberator and had CIG revert it to the merlin with LTI so I could possibly get it on IAE. But instead of the difference of 550$ being payed because the merlin was 25$ and the Liberator being 575, upon a reversion they jibbed me and only gave me 510 credit! it’s still a lot of credit but that 50$ can buy a whole ship, even two!!! Does anyone know the BMM price now?
Hey Phantom Ocelot, the BMM is such an amazing ship, I really hope you end up being able to get your hands on one! Unfortunately no one knows what the price difference will end up being at IAE, although I think $6-700 isn’t unreasonable, given it’s in-production and has had a massive recent updates. That really stinks though about the revision and the loss of credit. But fingers crossed, I’m holding out hope for you!
@@ViciDeum here’s to hoping, on one ticket they said 510 is what they can give even though neither the merlin or Lib changed prices. feels almost like extortion so let’s hope they correct it, or that breaks their site’s policy on exchange
@@PhantomOc3lot Yea that really stinks, and I’m still not sure why there is a price difference either. If one person in support isn’t helpful, try opening up another ticket and see if someone can help explain or assist further? I’m hoping someone can help you out!
I have to also take issue with both Drop Ship and Explorer ideas. There is no indication that it has scanning at the level needed to be an efficient explorer and there is there no indication that there is anywhere for troops to be for drops. Understand that because both of these game loops have not been fleshed out yet there are needs that are not yet explained. There are no seats for jump troops on this ship, it's meant to handle a "Family" of traders, not 50 Troopers, there are no seats for them. Just because it can carry cargo does not mean it has the height and width to carry tonks or ballistas etc. Range and medical facilities do not make an explorer, scanning does, the rest helps but without the scanning you got nothing. Trading is what this ship is designed to do, it's freaking awesome at it, cargo hauling as a secondary but it's a large, complex system that needs to make a big profit to keep working. It is NOT able to do anything else efficiently.
Hi Tim, thanks for taking time to leave such a detailed response! As I mentioned, these were just my speculative opinions. But I’m more than happy to support those positions, as they weren’t unfounded!
You’re right that neither exploration nor capacities as a drop ship have been fully fleshed out, but we can infer a lot from what’s been developed so far. We know the Banu have used this ship in lore as their chief exploration vessel. Additionally, the holo table aboard the BMM shows a massive globe, which is often proportionate to star mapping capability. Additionally, it’s got a massive fuel scoop and medical stations, alongside the confirmed holo table!
In its role as a drop ship, as mentioned in the video, the capacity of life support systems can be extended with shorter durations, and the main contingent of the force would be sitting within their vehicles aboard the gravity plated cargo hold, which could easily fit the number i mentioned!
The Banu Merchantman won’t be the best at every role, but it is a dedicated multi-role generational flagship vessel of a race who use the very best technology available to them!
I suspect this ship will excel in a number of capacities, even if a few dedicated ships edge it out in specific use cases!
For me 650$ no organization no experience no friends on citizen so I jumped in with both feet ...now what I have no idea what I'm doing or where to go...
Hahaha, full send! Honestly its a ship where the gameplay grows around you to support it!
Who else got the lifetime insurance?
It took a bunch of CCUs, but I built mine with LTI! Especially on a large ship like this, I can only imagine what those insurance costs would be like! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave your question, I really appreciate your engagement!
I just hope it's fast enough to be that blockade runner :)
I imagine that with some of its increases in size, it may be lackluster in some parts of this role, but I do anticipate that it will shine with some of the best atmospherics for a ship of its size! And be more than capable of punching through any blockade with those size eight cannons!
And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
@@ViciDeum what i meant is it will be really good against pirate only if it can outrun QED ships but i doubt that. However now that i think about it the size 4 defence turrets have more range than the 2km qed range of a cutlass blue
Also i didnt think about what you said baout target selection. True that as a pirate a fully crewed bmm wont be my first choice. Verry good point.
Also i wonder if a mantis would fit in the hangar bay because it would make the bmm a verry powerfull pirate ship
@@038alpha Great points and a really cool idea pairing the BMM with a ship like the Mantis! I can’t wait to see this in game, fingers crossed we see it in 2022 😁🤞
is the BMM actually armoured?
All the ships in game carry varying degrees of armor, and I suspect the BMM will be especially strong! Atop that, if it has a shield generator like the Sukoran on the Defender, it’ll offer ballistic protection as well; only further bolstering it’s defenses!
If I'm alive to see it.. a moving casino and rare items.
Well I certainly hope that you are alive to see it! And I love the idea of a moving casino with rare items, possibly even as prizes? That could be an awesome idea! And thanks for taking the time to watch this video and leave your comments, I really appreciate your engagement!
The moment it one shots a light fighter, and they complain about it, it will be nerfed into becoming as effective at expending combat firepower as an MPUV cargo. Wait for it...
I don’t think it will ever be as ineffective as a dedicated hauler, although I don’t suspect that it will be particularly effective against a fleet of fighters! But between those turrets, it’s front guns and it’s onboard fighter, I suspect the BMM will put up quite a fight!
Although I do think it will go through a number of changes in balancing, as with all other ships in this game, especially after their release! But I appreciate you taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, thank you for your engagement!
@@ViciDeum I admire your optimism.
@@Neogentronyx Thank you! I don’t think it’s going to be winning dogfights against fighter swarms anytime soon, but especially against slower targets and during events like Xenothreat I think it will be a sight to behold! But as with everything else and after balancing, we’ll just have to see!
@@ViciDeum That is all we can do. I have my BMM upgrade ready to deploy, but I must say, after the recent and controversial handling of another ship which was transformed into the exact opposite of what it was initially marketed, and sold as both in brochure and Q & A, I am a lot more hesitant to even consider giving them anything more. They control the game, but I control my wallet.
Maby ill use my bmm for transport for people
I think this is an excellent ship for transport, especially given its most recent design updates and its overall luxury stylings!
And thank you for taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, I really appreciate your engagement!
10 minutes of feeling like the BMM is a time-share being sold to me that I dont want, you weren't wrong but the cadence was odd
This made me chuckle thinking of a Banu sales pitch about a BMM time share haha. I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy my delivery, but I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts! This is very much an iterative process and I take in all the feedback from these comments!
I feel like this game is only for those who are loaded. These ships are expensive and the game require expensive parts to play smoothly
Thankfully you can buy every ship in-game, and get into the verse with just a $45 game package that includes a ship! Unfortunately the game is very unoptimized for almost every system, although newer ones definitely perform better. But I’ve played this game enjoyably even on 10+ year old hardware, using the settings guide on my channel to maximize performance!
But I appreciate you taking the time to watch this video and share your thoughts, thank you for your comment engagement!
I think the BMM would hold its own against a smaller ship, and maybe a Polaris if it goes caught off guard, at least it could defend itself, but a Kraken....Those turrets on the underside of the Kraken are HUGE. What kind of shields does this thing have, Idris size, or bigger? A Kraken would either need a fleet of ships, with a few Polaris to bother it, or an Idris M, and good fighter support, or a Javalin, all the Idris-P's and K's will get wrecked, as they have no defense against the huge turrets, only the M has the missile bay to defend against that. So the BMM, without better anti-capital ship interceptors; not happening against Kraken, and even more so if it has all the fighters. An Idris P, yeah that be a fine match, those guns are big, and the P is crap. The K has some offensive abilities, but it's nothing that compares to the M, so I'd say they are about even. The BMM would get in trouble from 1 fighter to 3 fighters. But anything smaller than an Idris, no problem. Hammerheads will hate this ship.
I absolutely agree! The only scenario in which I think a BMM would beat the Kraken is in easy atmospheric landings and the convenience setting up shops inside a closed hanger planetside!
Beyond that, I think a Kraken especially outfitted with fighter ships aboard its landed pads would be a serious challenge to contest the BMM!
While I think a very skilled Aries or Ion pilot could outmaneuver and gun down a BMM, I don’t think that a hornet, gladiator, or Valkyrie could pose much of a threat. Especially if the size 8 guns are able to decimate the ship in a single shot!
And I agree, there will be some ships that run in fear of the BMM and it’ll really come down to a skilled Merchantman captain to decide which targets are worth pursuing and which aren’t!
i have one i got it when it was 350$ best investment ever lol
Jon Martin, thanks for watching the video and sharing your experience! And I agree, that’s an incredible deal! By the time the BMM finally releases, I suspect the price will be close to (if not over) $1,000!!!
Check out how I bought it ;)
Congrats on the pickup and the CCU savings 👍
@@ViciDeum Thanks
sit it on a planet and load that big betty with mined ore
Absolutely! And while it’s being loaded up, open the marketplace and make a little extra profit in the interim 👌
Having 50 soldiers in formation in your cargo hold while you give your Helghast speech in orbit over the planet your about to invade.
What an epic group! Just had to watch the Helghast speech for some contest, man I don’t know the but I got chills haha.
But I’d love the RP potential of ship-scale megaphones to engage in some psy-ops before combat, that sounds sick!
@@ViciDeum Admiral Orlock speech is pretty good too. Imagine what it would look like in star citizen on some organization base on some planet somewhere in the void.
@@INTHEWILDERNESS-00 Just watched it, absolutely chilling! It would be incredible to see something like that in Star Citizen, especially that fleet of ships! Even if just a fraction of that is possible with server meshing/future optimizations, I’ll be endlessly enthralled 🙌