2010 Camaro L99 to LS3 Conversion (AFM/DOD Delete)
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- This video was shot in early 2020. In this video we converted the L99 engine in this 2010 Camaro to an LS3 by deleting all of the AFM/ DOD and VVT and installing a Texas Speed Camshaft Package.
*Work performed at Kyle Hirt's Performance Shop
#Cammed #L99 #Camaro
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About how much does this cost with parts and labor?
im like 98 percent sure you wont respond but did you happen to get a bigger stall converter? and if not how was the drivability? looking to do a dod delete and cam swap hopefully in the next few months so im trying to figure out what im gonna go with
I just did mine if you still need info, depends on stage I went with a stage 4 and have a 3600 converter and still shakes the car pretty bad id get one unless your running stage one
Any higher then 2 you needa get new one
I doubt you’ll answer lol seems how this was years ago but would this make my auto a manual then or no and I wanted to stage 2 cam mine and couldn’t find a stall converter rated 2800+ for my 2011 2SS camaro.
Is the car drivable after this conversion? Or would I have to flatbed it to a tuner?
You should always tune the ECU prior to driving the vehicle after these mods.
But to answer your question... Maybe. Sometimes they idle ok after this work and sometimes they don't want to idle at all. It really depends on your specific circumstances and the parts used
What lifters did you install?
About how long does a job like that take and i was wondering do you have a link or parts list to the kit you used on the camaro? Thanks again for the video and great job!
This is roughly a 4-6 hour job. I don't have links for the exact parts on this one but all of these parts were from Texas Speed. If you give them a call they can put together a kit for your specific application.
@@ChrisVaughnTech thank you for responding I appreciate it and will definitely give them a call.. thanks again keep up the great work and videos
I like!!
@@ChrisVaughnTech wait....4 to 6 hrs? Yall do these a lot? I'm not scared but I thought it would take a lot longer than that. Any info is appreciated!
@B. R. MATLOCK For someone who is familiar with 5th Gen Camaros or LS motors in general you could easily do this job in 4-6 hours. Most cam swaps are only a 1 day job. Of course there are exceptions but typically these jobs shouldn't take longer than a day assuming all parts are on hand.
What did you have to do with the cam sensor? Change it? Harness? Nothing, just use l99 sensor? Did you take the oil pan off? Remove the timing tensioner and just use ls2?
The original harness and cam sensor will work just fine with the new cam gear but you do have to swap the timing covers. Oil pan did not have to come off for this job.
@@ChrisVaughnTech how did you get the timing chain tensioner off without removing the oil pump? I'm trying to do that today
@@IllMakeItWork if you are replacing the tensioner then you would have to remove the oil pump. Otherwise if you are keeping the tensioner you can swap the cam gears without removing the oil pump. It's a little tricky but it can definitely be done. If the tensioner is in good shape then I would just swap the cam gears without removing the oil pump.
What size cam? How does it driver with the stock converter?
Not too bad. Obviously a higher stall converter would be better but this is still easily a daily driver
Did you ever seen on any L99 (LS3) oil leak from head gasket? I have small leak coming somewhere from top, couldn't determine, is it valve cover or head gasket leaking :(
Could be coolant check all lines
@@tylerkinler3646 no its engine oil)
Did you ever find out
Nice job !!
Thanks!
Will my stock l99 make the same horsepower as a stock ls3 if i do the conversation kit
I wouldn't think so. Going to lose more power through auto trans than with a manual.
Honestly im going to just save me the headaches & just buy a manual ls3 lol
It's only about 4-5 hours of work lol
@@ChrisVaughnTech let him learn. M cars have weaker rear ends, driveshaft and clutch need to be upgraded.
@@olveramelinda Also they’re overally slower
Any chance you have a video that you can send me that's not time lapsed like this? I'm about to do the same exact thing. Vvt delete. Dod delete, cam kit .. there's not any videos really showing the details breaking it down n installation.
Unfortunately I don't. I typically do Time lapses of these jobs because they take hours and it's difficult to cut and edit hours of footage. The file sizes would be huge. I plan on doing this in the future but right now I only have time lapse videos of these jobs. I will have real time videos with detailed breakdowns soon so please subscribe!
@@ChrisVaughnTech Will do! If I have any questions or issues once I start breaking it down and doing installation, would you mind if I contact you for help if needed?
Feel free to contact me anytime! You can find our Facebook page as well if that's easier!
Can you do a cam on a L99 without the LS3 conversion kit? If yes what kind of cam would you recommend for a 2010 L99?
I wanna know is the L99 the same as a Ls3..
520 D'Block basically the same but l99 is the automatic build and has an eco boost mode when driving that’s why it has a massive lag when you cruise around, l99 has a different displacement too and just a bit less durable, just goggle the info and it’ll tell you more
The L99 and the LS3 are basically the same engine except that the L99 has all of the DOD / AFM / VVT stuff that the LS3 does not have. By deleting those things you're basically changing the L99 back into an LS3.
If you are going to change the cam in an L99 then you have to delete the AFM/ DOD stuff because some of the lifters are different and ONLY work with DOD / AFM specific camshafts. The AFM style lifters are known to fail so most people get rid of the AFM equipment and then upgrade the engine just as you would any other LS3
@@jethrogomez7921 Thank you
@@ChrisVaughnTech Thank you
Did you put a stall converter for that cam?
No for this job we did not swap the converter
Don't need to the stock trans on the 5th gen can hold 600whp np anything higher than you'll have to make mods
@@ssjohnny6311 No Kidding there, I installed the TSP235248, not only did I have to change the converter I had to install a vacuum canister, the brakes were so bad.
im doing this to mine did you replace oil pump
How you get the timing marks lined up? Isn't the oil pump in the way?
Yes it is kind of in the way but with a flashlight you can look behind the oil pump and see the timing mark on the crank gear. The easiest way is to line up the marks before you take off the old cam gear. That makes it easier to line up the new one with the pump still installed. In most cases it is recommended to swap the oil pump as well while doing this job so typically you would be removing the oil pump anyway.
@@ChrisVaughnTech Thank you for replying! I really appreciate the help!
You don’t need to buy a cam kit for this conversation right? You just did it since you had the motor apart.
If you are deleting the DOD/AFM system then you must swap the lifters and swap the cam shaft. Engines that come with the DOD/AFM system have specific lifters and camshafts for that system so when you delete it you have to remove those parts too. So a cam kit is essential for doing this type of conversion
@@ChrisVaughnTech copy that and thanks for the clarification. I’m actually going to go l99 to ls3 to lsa.
Complete blower, heat exchanger, bronze trunnion kit, 160* thermo, accs drive kit, solid iso and 850cc injectors already purchased along with the l99 to ls3 kit from phastekperformance just arrived today.
Hey man you probably never hear about a follow up but I completed this mod along with that blower I mention, e85 and a bunch of other mods. Your vid popped up on me and I noticed I had asked you some stuff.
This is a fuel pump trap door vid I made but in the first 2 mins I show some of the motor work I completed for the build. I’m dropping a link just in case you would like to see another Camaro with some real quality mods.
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Did you changed out high volume oil pump and gotten rid of pressure valve inside oil pan too?
Yep
Is it VVT-1.2 ? Stage 1? And what about the torque converter or transmission? Any other upgrades ??
The VVT was deleted and converted to a 3 bolt Cam Gear. The Cam is a Stage 2 LS3 N/A Cam
No transmission upgrades on this one.
Can you list everything you purchased to make this conversation done correctly please and thanks.
- New Valley plate
- New front cover
- 3 Bolt cam Gear
- ARP Cam bolt kit
- Camshaft kit ( cam, springs, valve seals, pushrods)
- New LS7 style lifters & Trays
- New Head Gaskets
- ARP Head Bolt kit
- Camshaft retaining Plate (recommended)
- New Oil Pump (recommended)
- New Timing Chain (recommended)
@@ChrisVaughnTech I really love the list you provided. The parts are much cheaper than these advertised “L99 to LS3 conversion kits”. Would all these parts be enough to convert my L99 to a cammed LS3 like this one, if I took the car with all them parts to a shop worth their two cents?
@@velasteven00 These are all the major parts you would need to do this job. Other than some small gaskets I might be forgetting this is pretty much everything. Every shop is different and they may want to replace the oil pump and possibly drop the pan so I would discuss with the shop how they plan to do it and what the costs involved would be. You may also want to go ahead and install longtube headers as well so you can have it tuned with them installed. If the driveability becomes an issue then you may have to look into a higher stall converter for your trans depending on what cam you chose
@@ChrisVaughnTech yes of course, was going to stick with a lighter cam to stick with stock converter. I appreciate the knowledgeable response. Got my long tubes and been needing my tune, so I’ll wait until I do the conversion for the tune. Again thank you!! God speed brother
What is the point of deleting VVT? Is it easier to tune?
That would be a better question for a tuner.. but from my understanding the VVT is not very beneficial when your running the car at higher RPMs with larger cams.
@@ChrisVaughnTech Jessie from TSP told me before buying my TSP 3.2 CAM that the VVT makes more power and make better torque. Jessie tumed my car and all of the TEXAS SPEED race cars. Most people do the VVT delete because the tune is easier. It is hard to find tuner who can tune the VVT in the LS motors.
Did you watch the video?
The guy got a big boy cam 229/244 with 111 LSA , he definitely needs stall and I think the issue with vvt cams is timing, can’t do a lot of timing
I agree this setup should probably have a higher stall converter but customer chose to do that at a later time. We didn't have the headers yet when this video was filmed so those were installed as well.
Hello 👋, I'd like to purchase a 102 mm High Ram Ls3 intake, but I would like to know if it's compatible with my L99 out of a 2010 Camaro SS. Will it work?
I believe so. You may have some clearance issues where the intake might touch the cowl near the rear of the engine. You may have to dent it some to get clearance but otherwise it should work.
@@ChrisVaughnTech thank you!
Stock exhaust ?
Yes at the end of this video it was all stock exhaust but we added headers shortly after
How much power did it make?
I'm not sure since it wasn't going to be dyno tested at the time. I would guess it's somewhere in the 400 hp range
How rwhp after the swap?
This one did not go on the Dyno unfortunately so I'm not sure.
u make a automatic to a ls3??? How much did that cost you
It’s a 750$ kit around most online shops. Then you can start looking at cam kits.
Bill Cosby Your in prison and still putting. Work on your camaro.