Fiasco: The AIDS Crisis | Episode 1 | Gay Plague

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  • Опубліковано 11 лис 2024

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  • @Ode2Ash
    @Ode2Ash 12 днів тому +3

    That story about the bird at the end is bone chilling. Bless those men for facing both bigotry and their own mortality years before their time.

  • @matthewjones1959
    @matthewjones1959 9 місяців тому +39

    Wow. I'm a historian who writes about HIV/AIDS (specifically music and the AIDS crisis), and I teach a course at Oklahoma City University about music and HIV/AIDS. Just discovered this series, and it's quite good! Can't wait to share with my students.

    • @audible
      @audible  9 місяців тому +6

      Excited about the impact it'll have in your course. Sharing knowledge is powerful! 🧠 💪

    • @tebogomathete
      @tebogomathete 9 місяців тому +1

      Cool Prof! Anything of yours I can read ? Hi from South africa

    • @ChrisBeech-j4r
      @ChrisBeech-j4r 8 місяців тому +1

      then maybe u could write a song to cure aids

    • @dondamon4669
      @dondamon4669 8 місяців тому +3

      Why is that a job? It's like free money! Why do you need someone to talk about aids/hiv? Everyone knows

    • @budbundy4014
      @budbundy4014 7 місяців тому +1

      WTF does music and aids have in common?

  • @Rodmic-hd9pn
    @Rodmic-hd9pn 5 місяців тому +20

    I was a new graduate from Nursing-school. I had 2 uncles who had AIDS die from IVDA. I chose to work on the AIDS UNIT. IT WAS 1987. It was a spiritual experience. Many of them were discarded by family

    • @ArohaStill
      @ArohaStill 5 місяців тому +3

      Thank you for being by their sides

  • @jgkidd82
    @jgkidd82 10 місяців тому +14

    Glad I got the chance to listen to this podcast. I was born the year after the CDC first reported on the cases in the MMWR in 1981 so I wasn't really around to understand the gravity of what was going on back then.

  • @thebandit666
    @thebandit666 Рік тому +25

    So many thanks for covering this issue. Rest in power, Nurse Bobbi ❤❤

  • @KatieBlue16
    @KatieBlue16 5 місяців тому +14

    These episodes and this whole season is so enlightening. I was born in 1981, and when I was just turned 2, I had a really bad accident. Really bad. I'm a miracle to be alive. Anyway, I had to have blood transfusions. No biggie, until the untraced/unscreened blood scandal come out. People who needed blood transfusions back then, such as the likes of myself or haemophiliacs - it was Russian roulette as to what blood you got. I am so thankful and so very blessed, for both the fact I lived to tell the tale from my accident and also, that I didn't get a "bad batch" of blood 🙏🏻

    • @audible
      @audible  4 місяці тому +3

      Such an inspiring story. Thanks for sharing!

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 22 дні тому

      I was born in February 81. Glad you made it through. A massive percentage of people who got blood transfusions in the late 70s and early 80s weren't unfortunately. AIDS was terrifying for all of us who lived through that time. I wish treatment came earlier but am glad it was finally discovered and utilized.

  • @cesaroso863
    @cesaroso863 Рік тому +11

    Amazing, really appreciate all the effort in compilation of the testimonies of several actors of these first days of the epidemic that continues surround the world

  • @simonbailey8814
    @simonbailey8814 10 місяців тому +9

    Some great contributions from those who were there in this documentary.

  • @kencook7580
    @kencook7580 2 місяці тому +3

    Looking back now, the level of ignorance is more frigthtening than the chances of catching this deciese itself.
    This period of time with the benefit of hindsight is a lesson to us all. To treat people with respect, and give them the health care that they are entitled too. God bless all of them.

  • @jacquelinegrayden4706
    @jacquelinegrayden4706 3 місяці тому +3

    Cant stop listening, so well put together

  • @Siss2012
    @Siss2012 4 місяці тому +2

    Fantastic job, well done!👍 👏

  • @NECOLEsadiah
    @NECOLEsadiah 5 місяців тому +2

    THANKS FOR THE UPLOADS❤
    I TOOK the CHANCE to look if THIS was here
    And😮BAMM!!!
    THANNNNKss AUDIBLE

    • @audible
      @audible  5 місяців тому +1

      No worries! 🫶 🫡

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka 2 місяці тому +3

    They now believe that HIV had been brought to the West several times over the decades, but had not taken hold and died out because it didnt meet the right social conditions. In 1969, 16 year old Robert Rayford died in St Louis of a different strain of HIV to the one that later caused the epidemic in the west. They're srill not sure how he got it, whether it was through sex work, child abuse or perhaps even being born with it. Either way, it points to HIV being present in the USA far earlier than anyone thought. The strain that did cause the epidemic was brought to the USA from Haiti by one single person, to New York, in c. 1969. It only then took hold because New York provided a tinder box of social conditions: a city in a state of collapse with a lot of poor people with no access to healthcare, drug use out of control, prostitution rife, the culture from the 1960s of free love resulting in an explosion of promiscuity among both straight and gay people, and a sub section of the gay community who were very promiscuous. It was only noticed when more affluent gay people started dying, but as far back as 1978, an explosion of pneumonia deaths in drug users and in women's prisons in New York were being noted. It's now widely believed that they were caused by HIV

    • @Milt-g4f
      @Milt-g4f Місяць тому

      Stop it. You don't know, and stop the agendas.

  • @lumberland8404
    @lumberland8404 11 місяців тому +5

    Thank you.

  • @zoozoopeddles114
    @zoozoopeddles114 11 місяців тому +4

    Good info of the past.

  • @ReannaPeters12
    @ReannaPeters12 8 місяців тому +4

    2 to 3000 padners is wild. 😮

  • @SiobhanNkodithePom
    @SiobhanNkodithePom 6 місяців тому +2

    What an angel. ❤️🙏

    • @audible
      @audible  6 місяців тому

      🧡 🧡 🧡

  • @jamesstroud9697
    @jamesstroud9697 11 місяців тому +12

    It’s not over…It’s never over

    • @edgadalinski7493
      @edgadalinski7493 11 місяців тому +3

      That's a line from 1st Rambo Movie!

    • @kevinsmith86418
      @kevinsmith86418 5 місяців тому

      ​@@edgadalinski7493right on the nail

    • @ArohaStill
      @ArohaStill 5 місяців тому +1

      It could be over it's a choice for it not to be over

  • @michaelglenn367
    @michaelglenn367 7 місяців тому +3

    Correction: the disease received it's official name on July 27th, 1982 at a meeting in Washington DC.

  • @bryanbradley6871
    @bryanbradley6871 10 місяців тому +3

    who is HW? What is his name?

    • @marshalmallow7192
      @marshalmallow7192 7 місяців тому +2

      I’m assuming that they are using HW to protect the persons privacy. The doctor cannot legally provide a patients name with consent

    • @georgidimitrow-kl4ix
      @georgidimitrow-kl4ix 7 місяців тому

      Rick Welikoff

    • @bryanbradley6871
      @bryanbradley6871 7 місяців тому +1

      @@georgidimitrow-kl4ix HW= Rick Welikoff, MAKES SENSES

  • @Rodmic-hd9pn
    @Rodmic-hd9pn 5 місяців тому +2

    We all would never let our patients die alone.The cases I was seeing was IVDAs and homosexuals.

  • @Rodmic-hd9pn
    @Rodmic-hd9pn 5 місяців тому

    He’s a special nurse.

  • @AndresDahl-k1g
    @AndresDahl-k1g 2 місяці тому

    Mertz Center

  • @JasonCunningham-o4j
    @JasonCunningham-o4j 2 місяці тому

    Alexandro Shoal

  • @michaelspeyrer1264
    @michaelspeyrer1264 6 місяців тому +3

    For some strange reason, as a matter of absolute scapegoating, Aids activists keep wanting to make this about the Regan Administration and Christian Conservatives, who didn't cause this epidemic, weren't responsible for telling the Gay community to continue with behavior that was directly leading to their infections rates, or slowing the process for developing drugs to help them.

    • @ArohaStill
      @ArohaStill 5 місяців тому +5

      It was still a very sensitive time for the gay community I believe. People really only started Living openly as gay people and demanding rights in the 1970s and this unfortunately immediately followed that Liberation so calls to limit sexual contact and close down bathhouses Etc were mistakenly taken as an attempt to infringe on the rights of gay people instead of being taken as the dire warning that it was it's very unfortunate and very complex. And there was actually a major division amongst members of the gay community because there were Advocates Like Larry Kramer who advocated for safe and monogamous sexual relationships and they were criticized

    • @ArohaStill
      @ArohaStill 5 місяців тому +8

      And to be fair the Reagan Administration did not publicly acknowledge what was happening for some time and that definitely hindered the research it deleted by a long time and it prevented treatments from being developed so there is that legitimate criticism

    • @LMB222
      @LMB222 4 місяці тому

      Reagan's perfidy in keeping silent about this disease killed many people, not only gay.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 2 місяці тому +4

      Eh? The point is that the Reagan admission wilfully ignored the problem, while other countries (such as the UK and Australia) went all out to educate the public about the dangers and as a result, infections were a fraction of what they were in the USA. If the Reagan administration had actually bothered to look, they would have found that HIV had already been entrenched in large sections of the heterosexual population, often to a higher level than with gay people. But because those people were largely poor women, they were ignored in the rush to blame gay people for it all. HIV was never a gay disease. it was already affecting many heterosexual people before anybody even knew it existed. It's just that people only noticed when relatively affluent gay people started to die, and they provided a convenient but inaccurate scapegoat.

  • @jasonandersen1562
    @jasonandersen1562 4 місяці тому +2

    Crazy that Hollywood still promotes this lifestyle, especially considering the number of actors that have died of something totally preventable.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 2 місяці тому +1

      What lifestyle??

    • @Milt-g4f
      @Milt-g4f Місяць тому

      ​@@zeddekayou know.

    • @Milt-g4f
      @Milt-g4f Місяць тому

      Exactly

    • @DsaGoodies
      @DsaGoodies Місяць тому

      @jasonandersen1562 the homo lifestyle, obviously.