Shuriken is honestly one of the most busted characters in the game , blessed with the Range , Mobility , and Damage you may want in a Ranged Phighter , and is not as easily catchable as the supposedly mobile Slingshot due to Shuriken's perch being a very annoying mechanic when you're playing a melee However if you were to actively acknowledge his existence in the team , he almost becomes immediately redundant as he somewhat relies to SURPRISING the enemy , paired with his decently high skill floor , may prove to be REEEEEAAAALLLY challenging , especially in servers bunched with pros and veterans . However it can be fairly ignored if you were to change your role from a flanker to a frontline dps , his position in a team is much more flexible as he is very versatile (possibly much more versatile than a Phighter like Scythe) due to his already high damage and high mobility , he's a cracked jack-of-all-trades in Ranged Phighter terms and with how satisfying to use his kit is , he's definitely a phighter to try and main or atleast learn to play effectively
i'm glad you're having fun with shuriken since i personally love his gameplay and kit. but the only thing i'm worried about for him is the recent "nerfs"? or E rework that they said in bogcom that's now in testing. the damage nerfs were kinda deserved because he can be very deadly if you hit your shurikens but with the E rework i'm a bit nervous about the gameplay without the teleporting :
i really hope they keep the teleport, it'll keep shuri from becoming a burst dmg phighter like skate and bio and more like a "if you dont actively check for me, i am an active threat to you" kinda phighter. shuri's so fragile that he would not be as good without the teleport, it would be really hard to escape battles :/
@@maplebanan this, getting out of battles is very important with shuri!! and activating your E before you go into one will give you an escape if you aren't able to gain the upper hand. if his teleport is removed it leaves him with only his Q and passive for mobility, sure they're good but Q can easily get cancelled or put you in a vulnerable position and his passive is nice but only provides speed and jump height along with the wall grappling. hopefully the nerfs they give him aren't too bad :')
@@mochsushpep I’m sure that the nerfs won’t be too powerful when removing his mobility, Shuri still does have his charged M2 and the extra passives and q. They already released the patch of no TP Shuri but I guess this leads to smarter ways of playing with your decoys? I can kinda see Shuri becoming a trick phighter, using his decoy and then q’ing away or behind them if necessary too also they lowered the time it takes to send out the clone from the startup, which imo makes it harder because the clone startup time gives you invisibility to hide away if you’re really low, so his e is gonna be a lot harder to use to flee :
His E rework is both good...and insanely bad. I love the idea of his normal E being used as a strategic offensive tool and escape tool, which works greatly for Shurikens mobility DPS game plan as it can allow him to setup some great kills or simply help him escape danger easier. In execution, it works well but thr ability feels very clunky due to the cooldown and overall how slow you become during the abilities activation. The new E is a more offensively inclined tool but I feel it just makes his E much less versatile in exchange for most consistent offensive power against melees but it more or less seems like a nerf unfortunately.
@@NiicoNexus With the patch, the new E feels more like a tiny bit of damage dealing (that requires a bit of planning) in replacement of once was a pretty important part of Shuri’s kit. Since Shuri is really really fragile, I feel like he really needed that escape option rather than the extra 20 damage being easier to fire. He’s really good for dishing out damage if not taken care of already though, so I can see why they needed to limit his movement options. His synergy with the slow from M2 and the decoy bomb works pretty well, but he ends up being a lot more close ranged to really maximise the decoy :/ “Close ranged ranged glass cannon” is really goofy sentence and a really strange character idea-
im so upset that they are basically turning his E into "a slow moving aoe projectile" because the current one gives him so many opportunities, you can: let the clone roam free or teleport to it to deal some slowness and extra damage, use the clone as an escape option, use the clone as an extra source of damage by spamming M1, which also gives the enemy a 50/50 guess on which clone is real if you stand still which can be high risk/reward, and you can trick the enemies into chasing the clone for a decent amount of time, easily distracting them, especially since if you clone your teammates it doesn't attack. The rework really just feels like one of those joke rebalances people make where they take away all unique factors from a phighter and make them useless.
I'm pretty sure they changed shuris e because the opponent get punished for killing the shuris clone and punished for sparing the shuri clone. They could've done the rework differently to still make e interesting and skillfull but you basically just throw it at the enemy and sometimes pretend to be the clone.
as the only person who knows too many glitches with shuri you forgot to talk about his secret techniqe uhhh clipping out of (almost) every map even rocket arena
dang i played so much rocket that the arching at 60 studs is common knowledge to me. i found out about it through just messing around and trying to snipe roger/rojer from across the intermission lobby, then noticing that my rockets would eventually just end up hitting the ground before they reached the dummies.
When I first tried Phighting, Shuri was the first class I tried, and really disliked. As a bio main now, I really like his playstyle and is a nice change of pace while keeping the backline playstyle and amazing mobility. Shame E got buchered recently
CoolioSchmoolio and UprisingCoolio are two different people? Anyway theres many recognizable pros who are good at Shuriken, did you mind whats their reaction to this?
I do know theres pros like Coolio who are very good at the game for sure. As for the second part of the comment, I mainly make these videos knowing well I would probably get something wrong and really just play characters like how I see it. If a pro player does see this video though, it would be cool but I don't really ask for input as I mainly like doing this stuff on my own and slowly learning things for the most part, if that makes any sense.
Me when the sneaky ninja
Shuriken is honestly one of the most busted characters in the game , blessed with the Range , Mobility , and Damage you may want in a Ranged Phighter , and is not as easily catchable as the supposedly mobile Slingshot due to Shuriken's perch being a very annoying mechanic when you're playing a melee
However if you were to actively acknowledge his existence in the team , he almost becomes immediately redundant as he somewhat relies to SURPRISING the enemy , paired with his decently high skill floor , may prove to be REEEEEAAAALLLY challenging , especially in servers bunched with pros and veterans . However it can be fairly ignored if you were to change your role from a flanker to a frontline dps , his position in a team is much more flexible as he is very versatile (possibly much more versatile than a Phighter like Scythe) due to his already high damage and high mobility , he's a cracked jack-of-all-trades in Ranged Phighter terms and with how satisfying to use his kit is , he's definitely a phighter to try and main or atleast learn to play effectively
i'm glad you're having fun with shuriken since i personally love his gameplay and kit. but the only thing i'm worried about for him is the recent "nerfs"? or E rework that they said in bogcom that's now in testing. the damage nerfs were kinda deserved because he can be very deadly if you hit your shurikens but with the E rework i'm a bit nervous about the gameplay without the teleporting :
i really hope they keep the teleport, it'll keep shuri from becoming a burst dmg phighter like skate and bio and more like a "if you dont actively check for me, i am an active threat to you" kinda phighter.
shuri's so fragile that he would not be as good without the teleport, it would be really hard to escape battles :/
@@maplebanan this, getting out of battles is very important with shuri!! and activating your E before you go into one will give you an escape if you aren't able to gain the upper hand. if his teleport is removed it leaves him with only his Q and passive for mobility, sure they're good but Q can easily get cancelled or put you in a vulnerable position and his passive is nice but only provides speed and jump height along with the wall grappling.
hopefully the nerfs they give him aren't too bad :')
@@mochsushpep I’m sure that the nerfs won’t be too powerful when removing his mobility, Shuri still does have his charged M2 and the extra passives and q. They already released the patch of no TP Shuri but I guess this leads to smarter ways of playing with your decoys? I can kinda see Shuri becoming a trick phighter, using his decoy and then q’ing away or behind them if necessary too
also they lowered the time it takes to send out the clone from the startup, which imo makes it harder because the clone startup time gives you invisibility to hide away if you’re really low, so his e is gonna be a lot harder to use to flee :
His E rework is both good...and insanely bad.
I love the idea of his normal E being used as a strategic offensive tool and escape tool, which works greatly for Shurikens mobility DPS game plan as it can allow him to setup some great kills or simply help him escape danger easier. In execution, it works well but thr ability feels very clunky due to the cooldown and overall how slow you become during the abilities activation.
The new E is a more offensively inclined tool but I feel it just makes his E much less versatile in exchange for most consistent offensive power against melees but it more or less seems like a nerf unfortunately.
@@NiicoNexus With the patch, the new E feels more like a tiny bit of damage dealing (that requires a bit of planning) in replacement of once was a pretty important part of Shuri’s kit.
Since Shuri is really really fragile, I feel like he really needed that escape option rather than the extra 20 damage being easier to fire. He’s really good for dishing out damage if not taken care of already though, so I can see why they needed to limit his movement options. His synergy with the slow from M2 and the decoy bomb works pretty well, but he ends up being a lot more close ranged to really maximise the decoy :/
“Close ranged ranged glass cannon” is really goofy sentence and a really strange character idea-
What makes me sad is they nerfed my guy shurikens E and now he can't teleport to the other clone
Fr thats 1 minus in his mobility 😭
"spy is a bad class"
soundsmith, 2023, probably.
im so upset that they are basically turning his E into "a slow moving aoe projectile" because the current one gives him so many opportunities, you can: let the clone roam free or teleport to it to deal some slowness and extra damage, use the clone as an escape option, use the clone as an extra source of damage by spamming M1, which also gives the enemy a 50/50 guess on which clone is real if you stand still which can be high risk/reward, and you can trick the enemies into chasing the clone for a decent amount of time, easily distracting them, especially since if you clone your teammates it doesn't attack. The rework really just feels like one of those joke rebalances people make where they take away all unique factors from a phighter and make them useless.
I'm pretty sure they changed shuris e because the opponent get punished for killing the shuris clone and punished for sparing the shuri clone. They could've done the rework differently to still make e interesting and skillfull but you basically just throw it at the enemy and sometimes pretend to be the clone.
i dont care about that i just really like the windup animation for the e that they REMOVED
as the only person who knows too many glitches with shuri
you forgot to talk about his secret techniqe
uhhh
clipping out of (almost) every map
even rocket arena
dang i played so much rocket that the arching at 60 studs is common knowledge to me. i found out about it through just messing around and trying to snipe roger/rojer from across the intermission lobby, then noticing that my rockets would eventually just end up hitting the ground before they reached the dummies.
shuriken’s projectiles pierce boombox’s shield LOL (i learned this both the easy way and the hard way)
I HEAR TRICKSTAB… OH MAH GAWD SHPI TEE EF TOO!
I love the way Nico make complex characters look so simple! Could someone help me with the guide Nico mencioned in 15:40? I can't find it
I wanna see him without his hood. I love him
When I first tried Phighting, Shuri was the first class I tried, and really disliked. As a bio main now, I really like his playstyle and is a nice change of pace while keeping the backline playstyle and amazing mobility. Shame E got buchered recently
i like to play and have fun
Shuriken jumpscare
I think shuriken needs more skins
TRUE!!
Is every character weird at this point or
Yes
CoolioSchmoolio and UprisingCoolio are two different people? Anyway theres many recognizable pros who are good at Shuriken, did you mind whats their reaction to this?
I do know theres pros like Coolio who are very good at the game for sure.
As for the second part of the comment, I mainly make these videos knowing well I would probably get something wrong and really just play characters like how I see it. If a pro player does see this video though, it would be cool but I don't really ask for input as I mainly like doing this stuff on my own and slowly learning things for the most part, if that makes any sense.
Shurikin🎉🎉🎉🎉
do u plan on one of these for scythe next
how dare you
My idiot son
frailty, sneakiness, flanking, backstabbing. watching good players inspires you to play more? This is Spy in Phighting then.
guess what
*spy*