2:05 Tbh, I think the game should add something to phinishers where you are incapable of taking any damage while preforming it similar to Genshin Impact. This’ll allow it to function as a last card and prevent snipers from killing you and dying to whatever means. This has always been a huge problem that was very annoying because the phinishers are supposend to finish right? WHY DA FREAK ARE WE STILL ABLE TO DIE DOING IT? Like please, let us have immunity doing so. I shouldn’t need to beg a medic to Q on me so I can get that immunity while using my phinisher 😭
Exponentially Launched Rocket: Rocket pulls out an Exponential Rocket Launcher, and charges up a rocket for 1.5 secs before firing a rocket in the selected area (area selected similar to his ult now) which destroys all shield of Phighters caught in its range, as well as dealing 10% of health + 50 damage after.
nice video. two things tho, yes you are underating ban ult. and secondly you are massively underating boombox ult. you dont use it to save someone you use it to shift the momentum of a fight by doing it mid fight to deny the last couple of enemies of killing your team to clutch out conquer. or just to engage in a fight. the extra shields allows characters to have more point presence and really deny the entire enemy team. I have so many games where the boombox presses f on overtime and we lose.
Yeah I definitely agree I placed Ban ult way too low, I was just really annoyed with working on this video I didn't wanna change my placements anymore. In terms of Boom ult I feel it could definitely go up quite a few spots after thinking about what you said. His placement is probably my bias coming into play as I've primarily played in Open servers (trying to play more Scrims) and I also just don't have much experience on Boombox compared to most other Phighters.
I feel like that Boombox's ult is kind of useless. Yes it can be used to change the momentum of a fight, and engage in a fight. But since the shield decays very fast, it can only keep your teammates alive for a short period amount of time. On top of that Phighters that do wide range of damage like Sword could completely erase the permanent 50 shield, thus leaving them alive for a very short period of time. I don't really main Boombox a lot but I just think that Raining Tacos could not make a big impact and since Boombox has been nerfed a lot, other phinishers could overshadow it. It can save people hit by phinishers that stun them. The good stuff is that the shield could make Phighters like Biograft, Ban Hammer, and Sword more of a threat and Supports more alive, making your team alive. Overall, in my opinion, it's a good phinisher. Also hi CRABLOOSHI!! :D
Every time i get a Bh finisher off just before it i say, "mods....... crush his skull" or "blow up his house" and its the best feeling ive ever had i love it so much please Boggio never nerf it
SAAAAAMEEEE- When i joined Phighting for the first time, I looked at Biograft's angy little face and was immediatly hooked- Still my Main to this Day. Edit: Mispelled something
to be fair atleast in TF2 they have to actually aim for the head, or hell even charge the shot for a little while depending on your class you don't even have to aim for the head with hyper LMAO
Great video (I was thinking of making this but I agree a lot with most of your points, shame that Rocket PHINISHER got buffed a few hours after this video LOL) To be honest you landed pretty much all the reasons why the PHINISHERs are good or flawed, I got nothin much to add for them however I do have a few disagreements I would like to bring up because this is a fun video. Honestly I wouldn't think Boombox's PHINISHER should be 13th as I would move it up a couple spots. While the windup is long, Boombox has many ways with map layouts and his E shield to make sure he can get out his ult better. I kind of see it as a weird side-grade to Medkit's PHINISHER with how much shield it gives and how much defensive and offensive power this can give to a team with proper position (just like Medkit.) And combining that this ult has great synergies with mainly Biograft, Banhammer (to an extent) and Sword, I would argue it's around 8th personally. I feel like you overrate Sling and Bio PHINISHERS too much. Maybe it's the competitive player in scrims genetics coming out, but Sling ult is fine but not really all that good. It's dependent on the map layout sometimes and it's rather easy to know when the Sling will go for ult shots so you could spread out with your team a tiny bit and react accordingly, which could also lead to the Sling holding onto ult shots for longer than he should which is always great to have. Bio PHINISHER main issue is mainly a player difference, as some characters can literally decimate you in ult (Sword, Skate, and Tana) if you play too reckless, and Bio ult might make someone play more reckless which can lead to you sometimes getting very minimal value which can be an absolutely devastating feeling, but again I feel like the inconsistencies of the value it can give make it more around 7th or 6th as opposed to 3rd. Also yes, you may be bias on that Hyperlaser spot but to be fair, it is reasonable to put it at #1 (Personally I consider Medkit's PHINISHER to be outright the better one for many reasons but yeah Hyper has a very stupid one, just a very hard one to use consistently.)
Boom's Phinisher I will 100% agree I mad underrated when making this video (Along with Judgement). I have been trying to play more Scrims so I can get a better understanding of things from a competitive pov, so my Open server bias kicked in hard. I can definitely see me overrating Leg Day and Overdrive (I already think Leg Day should be around like 9th now :sob:) Overdrives placement was highly influenced by the fact I was going on a Biograft power trip in opens around the time I was making the final ranking. (Aidn hates me and is punishing me by reworking Rocket's Phinisher twice not even 24 hours since I released this video)
Something else worth noting about coil’s Phinisher is that right when it starts, if you hit another player, you pick them up and jump forward which does a some damage, I feel like this helps me a lot so you can get a single player alone and just do a whole lotta damage to them
@@pedrovitorlima2756 Fool counter? More like Im gonna count the amounf of fools that hit me before turning that into how many times you slam your desk out of rage.
Personally i find hyperlaser's phinisher very rewarding (as a hyper main) hyperlaser being a phighter that can get eaten up real easy by any melee or anything just faster than hyper making him a very vulnerable which his phinisher makes it a good recover for him being somewhat vulnrebale.
Rocket's phinisher got reworked,now you can turn a specific area into a minefield,and it stays for quite a long time,which means you can now lock the enemy team from going on point for a while more efficiently.
WAIT SUBSPACE IS THAT LOW? Well, it’s damage isn’t that great, and its radius is balanced, but its capability of trapping and immobilizing an entire team (very unlikely but still) seems way too insane to put it anywhere besides the top 5. That’s just my preference though.
In elim it’s like katana where the time to cast is so long that everyone can just leave but in stuff like koth and cart it can be very good at buying some time
I never thought of Hyperlasers ult being so broken, because so many random effects happens all the time in the game. It could range from Biograft blinking away or your friendly Subspace or Rocket throwing them off.
The fact you can get multiple people in one execution is so funny, I got like the entire team once and my teammates damaged them, which made it so I could kill them and it was probably one of my favorite moments from this game
7:23 i think one thing vinestaff is underrated for is dps. Vinestaff can output RIDICULOUS amounts if used well. It’s low cd stun is ridiculously effective as a get off me tool, and if you manage to spam a stream of m1s and m2 on the enemy, the explosion damage + m1 damage is ABSURD, and makes vinestaff one of the BEST units to fight banhammer - so long as you actually stay out of range and don’t charge in like an idiot. The main thing that holds vinestaff back is that scythe, bio and skate ANNIHILATE it, especially skate. It also struggles a LOT with boombox - although the rework actually made it sort of weaker to vinestaff, but not by much. Rocket used to be not too bad, since it’s self damage was so dangerous for it you could just stay close the whole time and they couldn’t do much, especially if you use your root right as they’re about to use their q. But the rocket buffs/nerfs made its self damage pretty laughable, AND gave it a faster firing rate, which is INSANE since its direct shot rockets deal a LOT. I still feel bad for rocket that its range got reduced though, i don’t think that nerf was really deserved since rocket does still get countered by a lot of phighters.
while not very good in annihilate(unless you have like a ban or bio) bb’s ult is a game changer in conquer imo. quite literally it can force/deny overtime if timed right(which I have done a few times) and it’s kinda underestimated for that, bb himself is pretty good in conquer, especially in maps with smaller points aka iron cafe, Roblox mall, sfoth etc… it can also kill low health opponents(tho that chance is low but usually I ult when a tank is fighting another tank so usually I don’t get kills with it often) but it’s still very useful(if not one of the best imo) ults for conquer matches
one thing to note about katanas ult is that you can use cover to cover yourself from enemy damage but still hit them and apply stacks of dread and damage
The best part of judgement is that you don’t have to do super complicated math to use it like EE, just see if they have less that 50% on the bar above their head and you’re good
personally I think what makes a good phinisher is how effectively it can flip the table in games katana for example, although yes it is easy to get out of range and damage the katana while he's using it, you can't deny how good it is at making enemies abandon the point in conquer beside in reality in a game, enemies are fighting your teamates too, so your teamate also work as a distraction so the enemies can't run out of your effective range (cause they aren't aware) or allowing your teamate to do extra damage while the enemies are busy fleeing Judgement is completely different though, it's short range and killing condition makes it a move you have to consider carefully before using and not one you can simply use and help the team in tough situations, not only it is hard to use but it also makes ban extremely vulnerable depsite being fairly quick. The time it takes for him to slam the hammer onto the ground, lift it up and swing it is already enough for him to take a lot of damage, especially when you consider that he's a frontliner which means he'll have to face multiple enemies. If you use the move at the wrong time it'll be extremely punishing
20:20 I’d also like to remind that if you are able to keep your health up by consistently killing Phighters for health, or having a healer on your team to keep it up, you’re getting at least even MORE kills than 5
Ranking Phinisher's based on how good they are in conquer (IMO) Conquer: 1st - Judgement 2nd - Noxious Void 3rd - THE COOL, RAD, COFFIN!! 4th - Eviscerating Ray 5th - All Mighty Axle Arc 6th - Leg Day 7th - Divine Resurrection 8th - Frostbite Fusion 9th - Guillotine Blossom 10th - Final Serenade 11th - Grand Cannonade 12th - Soul Splicer 13th - Overdrive 14th - Lotus of the Den 15th - Raining Tacos 16th - Stalking Ambush
rockets ult does amazing chip damage even if u cant hit every rocket, and if u hit the main rocket it does 50 damage and is practically unavoidable if your smart about it also its amazing for getting people out of the point in conquer and for doing chip damage to the entire enemy team
as a coil main or whatever heres some things i wanna say sycthe gun phinisher cant kill coil unless he absorbs the damage with regen E so you could KINDA apply the same thing like katanas counter also thank you for putting frostbitten fusion high on the list it has geuinly turned the tides with some games but id say the dowside of fusion is defintly its mobilty imo because ground e dosent get you that far compared to speed E and m2 not to mention the phinisher almost makes you fucking invicible if you keep jumping and spamming s rank M2 for 10 seconds thats a good deal and can absloutely decimate enemies if you just spam all your moves
Hyper was my main early on, and I always felt like I was hitting the ult more than regular body shots, and I would get mvp in maps where I dominated with his ult
6:15 something i think you missed about vine staff is that her ultimate is very teammate dependent while also being average on annihilate, not just flat out bad. but again, this is assuming your teammate knows how to play with a vine staff. her ultimate benefits a lot from your teammates being around you when you first pop it and if they aren't, 5 sprouts (or 50 regen and 25% haste) completely goes to waste - not even including it's future levels. it's a pro and con; it makes vine staff much more dependent on their teammates (a con) while being able to reset her teammates' health (in both annihilate (when entire team is retreating of course) and conquer; a pro)
I feel like bio and hyper’s placements should be switched because the windup time for hyper laser makes him quite vulnerable and unless it’s in a map that has good sniping spots like protect Telamon it’s a pretty big setback
Might be bias, but slingshots PHINISHER is actually one of the best in my opinion. On maps such as domino valley and Roblox HQ/ maps with long straight paths which not much other mobility, it’s insanely broken. The amount of times I’ve gotten kill streaks in Roblox HQs downstairs hallway is insane. Also, Slingshot can get around the long start up time via the fact he can get to high places very quickly, and the double speed allows you to basically murder any ban hammer that walks a little to close to you. Sure the damage is just okay but due to Slingshots decently high damage output (By the time I right this you can hit around 40 damage from his bounce shot ability if your good enough, and M2 doing 30 damage) It’s basically just saying goodbye to all the enemy’s sheild and like half there health. Also wall hacks and full map range make it just that much better. So yeah, I think Leg Day is amazing
I love banhammers ult. I love it. How it can be chained, requires luck or setup, and it effectively halves your enemies health until it stops charging also does banhamger have 4 eyes or 2 eyes
the ults rlly just show how much phighting is inspired by other games rocket ult : pharah ult katana : orisa ult shurkien ult : jett ult vine staff ult : lifeweaver ult rifle finisher : literally just reaper ult sword finisher : raze ult (kind of) scythe ult : yoru ult ban ult : also jett ult sub ult : zarya ult slingshot :sova ult coil ult : ramattra ult skate : big hammer guy forgot his name bio : winston ult but self damage medkit ult : old mercy ult hyper : mccree/cassidy (anyone you look at dies)
I feel like banhammer ult would go in Number 2 or just somewhere in incredibly strong or maybe first in noteworthy imo. I have proof of getting a penta kill with that phinisher
I think that shuri’s ult is rated too low, it deals a ton of damage if you know how to use it right. Also, it functions also as a double jump that can save you from the void.
i dont think you should call 100% defense Iframes because any move that does 50 or more damage will ignore it and even if it does under 50 for example medkit bullet it will still heal on headshot meaning the shot counts but no damage is done
22:53 okay, I feel like this is too highly rated due to the biggest flaw in this: AIM. Most people can’t aim right and the hit box for the shot is janky and sometimes won’t hit correctly. Oh, and the fact that a biograft can just annoy you when you’re trying to save a shot, is another big flaw, overall I just personally don’t agree with this.
the main issue with this argument is that ranking somethings viability based on skill is extremely volatile. hyper feels quite weak at a low level of play but once youre consistently hitting shots he feels unfair to fight because his ult just oneshots 3 times and even outside of that he, the longest ranged phighter in the game, wins a dps race against nearly every other phighter in the game who can attack him it feels incredibly uninteractive for your life to be completely out of your own control and entirely dependent on if someone ELSE can land shots, which is why hyper can be so frustrating to fight. from experience, you can get to a point of high consistency with hyperlaser, and the flaws in his design do begin to show at that point
I prefer to use vine’s ult more as a self heal, it can heal her like 80 health almost immediately, so i just use it if i’m low and close to death. Never use it in the open though LMAO you’ll get nuked
honestly i dissagree with the wholw list but for a different reason, i belive that all phinishers are equal in power and considering im a rocket main i can say that rockets phinisher is a pretty high skill thing to land but if its pulled of properly i have made a katana quake in there boots and especially in conquer me and several other people have done this because of the high skill cap but low skill floow for it and for most of them same reason or it depends on your playstyle. cool list though!
@crystalshards672 dude I looked at the nerfs, the only nerfs that hold weigh are LOS checks and slightly less survivability, his damage and combo potential have gone through the roof though and now he has counterplay, so its overall a good patch
Damage output just isn't that good compared to most others and his support is pretty lackluster. His biggest strength in my opinion is the fact he's got crazy mobility and stupidly high damage while in Fusion Mode.
Is a roblox game. Is like a Overwatch etc. Use a cool guy and help you team to get on point or kill the other team. It draws some inspiration on Splatoon to
as a certified support main, i believe boombox's ult should be dead last the absolutely pitiful range, the long windup, and the fact that the ult gets heavily nerfed if you dare to play any healer next to him (which sucks cause he performs way better with one) is a major part of why i think boombox is the worst character right now... the best use for bb's ult right now is as an engagement tool. having everyone gather and going in as soon as they get the shields. it is not good at saving teammates and helping them live, that would be medkit's ult, as it gives a major chunk of health, grants immortality, and revives dead teammates all within three seconds... enjoyed the video, though.. was a fun watch.. keep it up, king :3
So i've never actually watched high level phighting gameplay(i main katana and hyperlaser) i havent even watched through the entire video and i can see the hyperlaser OHKO ptsd leaking through LOL
I genuinely thought boombox’s phinisher would be like 14th just because the radius isn’t that optimal, and also that Katana’s would be in the top 12 at least because of its pretty good damage to all the people within its radius plus the shield he gains from it.
I’m only on number 12-13 so far and I already want to tear my eyes out. How does this man put shuriken ult below BB ult? Rocket ult is INFINITELY better than BB ult.
![The Current State Of PHIGHTING! [ALPHA]](/img/n.gif)
Not my finest work, this video got really screwed over by being in production hell. But at the very least, it's done and I can work on better videos!
the rocket changes making it the new best phinisher right after this video drops:
2:05
Tbh, I think the game should add something to phinishers where you are incapable of taking any damage while preforming it similar to Genshin Impact. This’ll allow it to function as a last card and prevent snipers from killing you and dying to whatever means. This has always been a huge problem that was very annoying because the phinishers are supposend to finish right? WHY DA FREAK ARE WE STILL ABLE TO DIE DOING IT? Like please, let us have immunity doing so. I shouldn’t need to beg a medic to Q on me so I can get that immunity while using my phinisher 😭
You forgot to mention Hyperlaser can hit MULTIPLE enemies with the SAME SHOT
poor guy finished the video as soon as rocket ult was buffed 😭
Fr, you can weave the rockets now you have to actually get out the blast zone or suffer the damage
the rocket ult rework rework
*phinished*
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The feel of banning 5 people in a row gives me such a fa dopamine hit
how about nitrus
this video comes out then there's an experimental patch that turns rocket ult into a nuke
Exponentially Launched Rocket:
Rocket pulls out an Exponential Rocket Launcher, and charges up a rocket for 1.5 secs before firing a rocket in the selected area (area selected similar to his ult now) which destroys all shield of Phighters caught in its range, as well as dealing 10% of health + 50 damage after.
That feeling when your playing medkit and die the second the crystal gets an inch from the ground 😭
I can understand you 😭
Also cool profile photo btw (I play Terraria)
...Rocket got a small change to his ult and uuuh... lets just say it fixes literally everything it had wrong
nice video. two things tho, yes you are underating ban ult. and secondly you are massively underating boombox ult. you dont use it to save someone you use it to shift the momentum of a fight by doing it mid fight to deny the last couple of enemies of killing your team to clutch out conquer. or just to engage in a fight. the extra shields allows characters to have more point presence and really deny the entire enemy team. I have so many games where the boombox presses f on overtime and we lose.
Yeah I definitely agree I placed Ban ult way too low, I was just really annoyed with working on this video I didn't wanna change my placements anymore. In terms of Boom ult I feel it could definitely go up quite a few spots after thinking about what you said. His placement is probably my bias coming into play as I've primarily played in Open servers (trying to play more Scrims) and I also just don't have much experience on Boombox compared to most other Phighters.
also you do NOT know how annoying it is when a boombox prioritizes his ult to happen RIGHT AFTER YOU DO IT FIRST
you
@ :D
I feel like that Boombox's ult is kind of useless. Yes it can be used to change the momentum of a fight, and engage in a fight. But since the shield decays very fast, it can only keep your teammates alive for a short period amount of time. On top of that Phighters that do wide range of damage like Sword could completely erase the permanent 50 shield, thus leaving them alive for a very short period of time. I don't really main Boombox a lot but I just think that Raining Tacos could not make a big impact and since Boombox has been nerfed a lot, other phinishers could overshadow it. It can save people hit by phinishers that stun them. The good stuff is that the shield could make Phighters like Biograft, Ban Hammer, and Sword more of a threat and Supports more alive, making your team alive. Overall, in my opinion, it's a good phinisher.
Also hi CRABLOOSHI!! :D
Every time i get a Bh finisher off just before it i say, "mods....... crush his skull" or "blow up his house" and its the best feeling ive ever had i love it so much please Boggio never nerf it
"mods...... ban that guy" "mods...... gets him out of my stream/chat"
I bet hyper laser’s phinisher will be ranked very high
Edit: I knew it
Who would have thought. lamo
I bet 3.4 bux hyperlaser was gonna be ranked 1
It is Broken bro, and I must confirm it, as a weirdo who mains Hyperlaser ON MOBILE (and with an internet from LATAM)
biograft my beloved
i love being an angry robot
SAAAAAMEEEE-
When i joined Phighting for the first time, I looked at Biograft's angy little face and was immediatly hooked- Still my Main to this Day.
Edit: Mispelled something
bio wasn't my first main but i've been playing them since april now and i'd say they're the character i'm best at. i looooove grafting it up
Bro hearing you complain about Hyper's phinisher is really funny as a TF2 fan.
Really funny. What a good joke. Please help me.
also tf2 fan and player here, I agree LOL
to be fair atleast in TF2 they have to actually aim for the head, or hell even charge the shot for a little while depending on your class
you don't even have to aim for the head with hyper LMAO
Great video (I was thinking of making this but I agree a lot with most of your points, shame that Rocket PHINISHER got buffed a few hours after this video LOL)
To be honest you landed pretty much all the reasons why the PHINISHERs are good or flawed, I got nothin much to add for them however I do have a few disagreements I would like to bring up because this is a fun video.
Honestly I wouldn't think Boombox's PHINISHER should be 13th as I would move it up a couple spots. While the windup is long, Boombox has many ways with map layouts and his E shield to make sure he can get out his ult better. I kind of see it as a weird side-grade to Medkit's PHINISHER with how much shield it gives and how much defensive and offensive power this can give to a team with proper position (just like Medkit.) And combining that this ult has great synergies with mainly Biograft, Banhammer (to an extent) and Sword, I would argue it's around 8th personally.
I feel like you overrate Sling and Bio PHINISHERS too much. Maybe it's the competitive player in scrims genetics coming out, but Sling ult is fine but not really all that good. It's dependent on the map layout sometimes and it's rather easy to know when the Sling will go for ult shots so you could spread out with your team a tiny bit and react accordingly, which could also lead to the Sling holding onto ult shots for longer than he should which is always great to have.
Bio PHINISHER main issue is mainly a player difference, as some characters can literally decimate you in ult (Sword, Skate, and Tana) if you play too reckless, and Bio ult might make someone play more reckless which can lead to you sometimes getting very minimal value which can be an absolutely devastating feeling, but again I feel like the inconsistencies of the value it can give make it more around 7th or 6th as opposed to 3rd.
Also yes, you may be bias on that Hyperlaser spot but to be fair, it is reasonable to put it at #1 (Personally I consider Medkit's PHINISHER to be outright the better one for many reasons but yeah Hyper has a very stupid one, just a very hard one to use consistently.)
Boom's Phinisher I will 100% agree I mad underrated when making this video (Along with Judgement). I have been trying to play more Scrims so I can get a better understanding of things from a competitive pov, so my Open server bias kicked in hard. I can definitely see me overrating Leg Day and Overdrive (I already think Leg Day should be around like 9th now :sob:) Overdrives placement was highly influenced by the fact I was going on a Biograft power trip in opens around the time I was making the final ranking.
(Aidn hates me and is punishing me by reworking Rocket's Phinisher twice not even 24 hours since I released this video)
Something else worth noting about coil’s Phinisher is that right when it starts, if you hit another player, you pick them up and jump forward which does a some damage, I feel like this helps me a lot so you can get a single player alone and just do a whole lotta damage to them
katana's foul counter is called foul for a reason
Foul Counter? More like "Fool Counter"
@@pedrovitorlima2756
Fool counter? More like Im gonna count the amounf of fools that hit me before turning that into how many times you slam your desk out of rage.
bro was hit with one too many eviscerating rays LOL
Day 1 Hyperlaser hater I will never give that man a break.
@@fluxeLztruth
That kill on 1:39 was so damn cool
pretty good ranking considering that phinishers are kinda balanced
Wahhh i love rocket!!! N his ult, its so cool to get like on average 2-3 kills immediately. Also that's me at 20:48 🤩
finally someone who understands the power of hyper ult, and you didnt even mention how good it is at getting ult shutdowns
the "worst" one being rockets right before the buff is so funny
New term unlocked:
“I’m gonna Phinish”
Weaker, but still good
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0:44 Rocket
2:23 Katana
3:56 Shuriken
4:50 Boombox
Good, average strength
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6:15 Vinestaff
7:45 Scythe (rifle)
9:29 Sword
10:28 Scythe
Noteworthy
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11:35 Banhammer
13:01 Subspace
14:34 Slingshot
Incredibly Strong
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16:11 Coil
17:41 Skateboard
19:09 Biograft
20:21 Medkit
Broken
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22:00 Hyperlaser
Personally i find hyperlaser's phinisher very rewarding (as a hyper main) hyperlaser being a phighter that can get eaten up real easy by any melee or anything just faster than hyper making him a very vulnerable which his phinisher makes it a good recover for him being somewhat vulnrebale.
Rocket's phinisher got reworked,now you can turn a specific area into a minefield,and it stays for quite a long time,which means you can now lock the enemy team from going on point for a while more efficiently.
the banning thing has a learning curve, I personally still suck at phighting but its still ok to use as a beginner/amateur.
WAIT SUBSPACE IS THAT LOW? Well, it’s damage isn’t that great, and its radius is balanced, but its capability of trapping and immobilizing an entire team (very unlikely but still) seems way too insane to put it anywhere besides the top 5. That’s just my preference though.
Honestly I would argue it’s one of if not the best in the entire game due to its nature
@ Exactly
In elim it’s like katana where the time to cast is so long that everyone can just leave but in stuff like koth and cart it can be very good at buying some time
@ That’s true
I never thought of Hyperlasers ult being so broken, because so many random effects happens all the time in the game.
It could range from Biograft blinking away or your friendly Subspace or Rocket throwing them off.
The fact you can get multiple people in one execution is so funny, I got like the entire team once and my teammates damaged them, which made it so I could kill them and it was probably one of my favorite moments from this game
Bro your probably the biggest content creator for this game wow
7:23 i think one thing vinestaff is underrated for is dps. Vinestaff can output RIDICULOUS amounts if used well. It’s low cd stun is ridiculously effective as a get off me tool, and if you manage to spam a stream of m1s and m2 on the enemy, the explosion damage + m1 damage is ABSURD, and makes vinestaff one of the BEST units to fight banhammer - so long as you actually stay out of range and don’t charge in like an idiot. The main thing that holds vinestaff back is that scythe, bio and skate ANNIHILATE it, especially skate. It also struggles a LOT with boombox - although the rework actually made it sort of weaker to vinestaff, but not by much. Rocket used to be not too bad, since it’s self damage was so dangerous for it you could just stay close the whole time and they couldn’t do much, especially if you use your root right as they’re about to use their q.
But the rocket buffs/nerfs made its self damage pretty laughable, AND gave it a faster firing rate, which is INSANE since its direct shot rockets deal a LOT.
I still feel bad for rocket that its range got reduced though, i don’t think that nerf was really deserved since rocket does still get countered by a lot of phighters.
while not very good in annihilate(unless you have like a ban or bio) bb’s ult is a game changer in conquer imo. quite literally it can force/deny overtime if timed right(which I have done a few times) and it’s kinda underestimated for that, bb himself is pretty good in conquer, especially in maps with smaller points aka iron cafe, Roblox mall, sfoth etc… it can also kill low health opponents(tho that chance is low but usually I ult when a tank is fighting another tank so usually I don’t get kills with it often) but it’s still very useful(if not one of the best imo) ults for conquer matches
I remember the time hyperlaser's ult was his WHOLE AMMO SUPLY, and not only one shot, man, THAT WAS OP!
skipped to broken and saw hyperlaser i am now happy
as a rocket main, I cried during this video
i think my heart shattered into 14 million pieces when katana was second last
Man one of my old favorite ult combos was boombio it was so fun to have an invincible maniac as my dog
one thing to note about katanas ult is that you can use cover to cover yourself from enemy damage but still hit them and apply stacks of dread and damage
The best part of judgement is that you don’t have to do super complicated math to use it like EE, just see if they have less that 50% on the bar above their head and you’re good
personally I think what makes a good phinisher is how effectively it can flip the table in games
katana for example, although yes it is easy to get out of range and damage the katana while he's using it, you can't deny how good it is at making enemies abandon the point in conquer
beside in reality in a game, enemies are fighting your teamates too, so your teamate also work as a distraction so the enemies can't run out of your effective range (cause they aren't aware) or allowing your teamate to do extra damage while the enemies are busy fleeing
Judgement is completely different though, it's short range and killing condition makes it a move you have to consider carefully before using and not one you can simply use and help the team in tough situations, not only it is hard to use but it also makes ban extremely vulnerable depsite being fairly quick. The time it takes for him to slam the hammer onto the ground, lift it up and swing it is already enough for him to take a lot of damage, especially when you consider that he's a frontliner which means he'll have to face multiple enemies. If you use the move at the wrong time it'll be extremely punishing
20:20 I’d also like to remind that if you are able to keep your health up by consistently killing Phighters for health, or having a healer on your team to keep it up, you’re getting at least even MORE kills than 5
Ranking Phinisher's based on how good they are in conquer (IMO)
Conquer:
1st - Judgement
2nd - Noxious Void
3rd - THE COOL, RAD, COFFIN!!
4th - Eviscerating Ray
5th - All Mighty Axle Arc
6th - Leg Day
7th - Divine Resurrection
8th - Frostbite Fusion
9th - Guillotine Blossom
10th - Final Serenade
11th - Grand Cannonade
12th - Soul Splicer
13th - Overdrive
14th - Lotus of the Den
15th - Raining Tacos
16th - Stalking Ambush
13:46 you can kill them pretty easily with q > m2 then m1 spam, even if they're not that low
rockets ult does amazing chip damage even if u cant hit every rocket, and if u hit the main rocket it does 50 damage and is practically unavoidable if your smart about it
also its amazing for getting people out of the point in conquer and for doing chip damage to the entire enemy team
as a coil main or whatever heres some things i wanna say
sycthe gun phinisher cant kill coil unless he absorbs the damage with regen E so you could KINDA apply the same thing like katanas counter
also thank you for putting frostbitten fusion high on the list it has geuinly turned the tides with some games but id say the dowside of fusion is defintly its mobilty imo because ground e dosent get you that far compared to speed E and m2
not to mention the phinisher almost makes you fucking invicible if you keep jumping and spamming s rank M2 for 10 seconds thats a good deal and can absloutely decimate enemies if you just spam all your moves
not me clicking this epik vid just to see that ONE phinisher i want to see he ranked (aka biograft)
yay it reached top 3!!
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@@nohintshere LETS GOOO
RISE BIO FANS
man remember when hyper can have 3 insta kill shots without needing to kill someone? good times..
Hyper was my main early on, and I always felt like I was hitting the ult more than regular body shots, and I would get mvp in maps where I dominated with his ult
bro, I was playing phighting right now on the same server as you and coincidentally I just found your channel xddd
now the rocket phinisher is justefied with the nerfs
22:51 also it can pierce through enemies with enough hitbox manipulation
(move roger to the left for like 5 studs then shoot at rojer but make it the roger hitted because the hitbox is so big)
6:15 something i think you missed about vine staff is that her ultimate is very teammate dependent while also being average on annihilate, not just flat out bad. but again, this is assuming your teammate knows how to play with a vine staff. her ultimate benefits a lot from your teammates being around you when you first pop it and if they aren't, 5 sprouts (or 50 regen and 25% haste) completely goes to waste - not even including it's future levels. it's a pro and con; it makes vine staff much more dependent on their teammates (a con) while being able to reset her teammates' health (in both annihilate (when entire team is retreating of course) and conquer; a pro)
I feel like bio and hyper’s placements should be switched because the windup time for hyper laser makes him quite vulnerable and unless it’s in a map that has good sniping spots like protect Telamon it’s a pretty big setback
Might be bias, but slingshots PHINISHER is actually one of the best in my opinion. On maps such as domino valley and Roblox HQ/ maps with long straight paths which not much other mobility, it’s insanely broken. The amount of times I’ve gotten kill streaks in Roblox HQs downstairs hallway is insane. Also, Slingshot can get around the long start up time via the fact he can get to high places very quickly, and the double speed allows you to basically murder any ban hammer that walks a little to close to you. Sure the damage is just okay but due to Slingshots decently high damage output (By the time I right this you can hit around 40 damage from his bounce shot ability if your good enough, and M2 doing 30 damage) It’s basically just saying goodbye to all the enemy’s sheild and like half there health. Also wall hacks and full map range make it just that much better. So yeah, I think Leg Day is amazing
I cant belive that you put a scythe invis form or spamable sword ult higher than skate ult
I love banhammers ult. I love it. How it can be chained, requires luck or setup, and it effectively halves your enemies health until it stops charging
also does banhamger have 4 eyes or 2 eyes
you forgor to mention the fact it resets all cooldowns on biograft so you should use m2 + ult for insane damage
the ults rlly just show how much phighting is inspired by other games
rocket ult : pharah ult
katana : orisa ult
shurkien ult : jett ult
vine staff ult : lifeweaver ult
rifle finisher : literally just reaper ult
sword finisher : raze ult (kind of)
scythe ult : yoru ult
ban ult : also jett ult
sub ult : zarya ult
slingshot :sova ult
coil ult : ramattra ult
skate : big hammer guy forgot his name
bio : winston ult but self damage
medkit ult : old mercy ult
hyper : mccree/cassidy (anyone you look at dies)
15:12 the fact you were ignoring Medkit dying was so funny :sob:
20:21 divien is crazy
I feel like banhammer ult would go in Number 2 or just somewhere in incredibly strong or maybe first in noteworthy imo. I have proof of getting a penta kill with that phinisher
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Before Marvel rivals
Me and another ban use are Ulysses and we somehow killer each other
is this why people always target me when i play hyperlaser
oof, having rockets ult at the bottom was a bad move.
just got reworked and now its CRAZYYY good.
Imagine they just turn grand cannonade tenta missiles from splatoon to make it better
I think that shuri’s ult is rated too low, it deals a ton of damage if you know how to use it right. Also, it functions also as a double jump that can save you from the void.
My boi sword made it top 10!!!!!! Not very high but i am very happy about it
As a medkit main i wish my team would die in a set area so i can actually revive them all
Parrying scythe ult (you one shot everything in her path)
i dont think you should call 100% defense Iframes because any move that does 50 or more damage will ignore it and even if it does under 50 for example medkit bullet
it will still heal on headshot meaning the shot counts but no damage is done
20:21 "Divien ressurrection"
SUBSPACE SUPERIORITY!!!!!
What FOV you play on? I'm curious
22:53 okay, I feel like this is too highly rated due to the biggest flaw in this: AIM. Most people can’t aim right and the hit box for the shot is janky and sometimes won’t hit correctly. Oh, and the fact that a biograft can just annoy you when you’re trying to save a shot, is another big flaw, overall I just personally don’t agree with this.
the main issue with this argument is that ranking somethings viability based on skill is extremely volatile. hyper feels quite weak at a low level of play but once youre consistently hitting shots he feels unfair to fight because his ult just oneshots 3 times and even outside of that he, the longest ranged phighter in the game, wins a dps race against nearly every other phighter in the game who can attack him
it feels incredibly uninteractive for your life to be completely out of your own control and entirely dependent on if someone ELSE can land shots, which is why hyper can be so frustrating to fight. from experience, you can get to a point of high consistency with hyperlaser, and the flaws in his design do begin to show at that point
@@outspade fair argument good sir
I prefer to use vine’s ult more as a self heal, it can heal her like 80 health almost immediately, so i just use it if i’m low and close to death. Never use it in the open though LMAO you’ll get nuked
shuriken ult above katana's? rlly? katana's ult in conquer is insane, it does like 70 dmg, massive range, gives shield, etc.
honestly i dissagree with the wholw list but for a different reason, i belive that all phinishers are equal in power and considering im a rocket main i can say that rockets phinisher is a pretty high skill thing to land but if its pulled of properly i have made a katana quake in there boots and especially in conquer me and several other people have done this because of the high skill cap but low skill floow for it and for most of them same reason or it depends on your playstyle. cool list though!
im still rather lost on how people consider Coil to be low tier. Its gotta be the fact hes in support isnt it?
bros got tickle monster damage
@fluxeLz ...i dont follow im afraid
now everyone is going to call him garbage because of the nerfs he just got
@crystalshards672 dude I looked at the nerfs, the only nerfs that hold weigh are LOS checks and slightly less survivability, his damage and combo potential have gone through the roof though and now he has counterplay, so its overall a good patch
Damage output just isn't that good compared to most others and his support is pretty lackluster. His biggest strength in my opinion is the fact he's got crazy mobility and stupidly high damage while in Fusion Mode.
I never heard of this game before, is this like splatoon?
Is a roblox game. Is like a Overwatch etc. Use a cool guy and help you team to get on point or kill the other team. It draws some inspiration on Splatoon to
@ oh ok!
as a bio main, boombox is the best ult
as a certified support main, i believe boombox's ult should be dead last
the absolutely pitiful range, the long windup, and the fact that the ult gets heavily nerfed if you dare to play any healer next to him (which sucks cause he performs way better with one) is a major part of why i think boombox is the worst character right now...
the best use for bb's ult right now is as an engagement tool. having everyone gather and going in as soon as they get the shields. it is not good at saving teammates and helping them live, that would be medkit's ult, as it gives a major chunk of health, grants immortality, and revives dead teammates all within three seconds...
enjoyed the video, though.. was a fun watch.. keep it up, king :3
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as a retired bb main… yes
as BB main...
sadly yes.
I had many times where I thought the shield would go to the player and the guy didnt get it 😢
SWORD ULT IS GOOD??? SINCE WHEN>?>>?? (i havent played the game in twenty zepcillion years)
I need a phinisher ranking with lag
(it gives infinite phinishers :) )
So i've never actually watched high level phighting gameplay(i main katana and hyperlaser)
i havent even watched through the entire video and i can see the hyperlaser OHKO ptsd leaking through LOL
17:38 - low tier phighter?
hehe katana e go brrrr
Justice for sub ult
I genuinely thought boombox’s phinisher would be like 14th just because the radius isn’t that optimal, and also that Katana’s would be in the top 12 at least because of its pretty good damage to all the people within its radius plus the shield he gains from it.
I’m only on number 12-13 so far and I already want to tear my eyes out. How does this man put shuriken ult below BB ult? Rocket ult is INFINITELY better than BB ult.
@ pre buffs rocket ult wasn’t better (which is when this vid came out), but yeah shuri ult is better then BB ult
Oh hey, I’m in the video, sorry for calling you a nerd :/
Nah it was funny lol
@ I also thought it was funny so I’m glad we both enjoyed it :D
Nice video. But unfortunately, Account terminated.
Tfw you absolutely dumpster that stupid sling main with ban ult after they bullied you the entire round:
They buffed rocket his phinisher is better now
move slingshot down to 8 andbring ban hammer and subspace up I find skingshot super easy dodge and kinda mid
i too hate hyperlaser
bh finisher needs better placement due to how annoying he is, imagine getting 3 bh ult in a row couldnt be me lol hahahahahaha..ha..haha..ha.....
I’m gonna be honest your voice put me to sleep