Now, 5 years later, I'm revisiting the content of this video. A lot has happened since then and a lot more context informs my thoughts on this pontificate. I will say, for now, I'm far less eager to excuse the objectively poor leadership in the Church today, including Francis' pontificate. At this point in his Papacy, I was far more eager to give the benefit of the doubt. As a matter of charity, that still is my first impulse, but I also recognize the considerable problems in his behaviour and opinions (that get distributed as if they are magisterial). In short, take what I have to say in this video with a grain of salt and not as something that is fully reflective of my thoughts today.
I appreciate your video, especially this clarification. Im reformed protestant but I have been studying Church history and am inching closer to doing the RCIA but I have hinderances on certain topics like this Pope’s words and conduct not being in line with the Faith and it seems im not alone.
Brian, thank you for your content! I am Orthodox, but not hostile to Catholicism, I really appreciate the music, the legacy, etc. But some things still just rub me the wrong way. And this issue is a prime example of that. Some people think Vatican II was this liberal conspiracy. But look at Lumen Gentium: "This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking". Assuming this is literally canon now, is it really possible to criticize any word of any pope at this point? Even bishops? That's one of the main Orthodox objections to Catholicism, especially post-Vatican I: it seems like the Orthodox can still rely on their consciousness (given you are striving for a proper spiritual life) and the Church Fathers, whereas even the most liberal Catholic documents seem to indicate that the way to salvation is basically listening to the Pope 24/7. It's hard for me to accept the concept of "institutionalized charisma" of the papacy per se, but with regards to Vatican II it gets even more strange, considering the fact that a lot of trad Catholics are still comfortable enough going against the pope which essentially might mean going against their own canons. How do you deal with this issue? I'm genuinely curious, it's not a dig, even for me as an Orthodox Christian it's an open question. God bless.
The problem is the internet. Here is a video that shows how people get their information on the pope from people on the internet: ua-cam.com/video/uKUdy0xRjxI/v-deo.html
The Pontiff, doesn’t represent Christ. If he or any Bishop makes such a claim run away screaming. The Pontiff, Patriarchs, Bishops, Priests, Presbyters, Pastors or Ministers can at best represent the Church and least their individual churches.
The job of the Pope is to bring clarity and unity to the teachings of the Catholic Church not confusion and disunity which is where we seem to be with Pope Francis. I think most Catholics who take their faith seriously are pretty frustrated with this aspect Pope Francis' Papacy because our job of doing apologetics and evangalisation that much harder.
coldforgedcowboy I agree with what you said ambiguity is not the work of the Holy Spirit. The Pope needs to be very clear on the teachings of the church. Amoris Laetitia contradicts John Paul's exhortation familiaris consortio of 1981. John Paul had clear guidelines to whom communion should be distributed and who should approach Holy Communion. Those in the state of adultery or irregular unions were not allowed to receive the sacrament. It would be sacrilegious.
What rubbish. Blaming the Church for everything. Get a life. The Pope has brought a new inspiring perspective that embraces creation and a holistic outlook of integralism- something very needed in our times of atomised and specialised voices. Stop criticising and get out there and use your talents for the City of God.
Ardent But The Bible tells you that The Church (not "The Bible)....."IS THE PILLAR & FOUNDATION OF TRUTH?" (1 Tim 3:15) (1)How do you even know that 1 Peter is "God-breathed"? Because Catholic tradition held it as such; & 3 Councils of Catholic Bishops included it in their SELECTION of such books, permitted to be read from at The Holy Mass....Ratified by several popes, this selected library became known as "THE BIBLE"! All around 400 AD!.....after preaching The Gospel (with no Bible) for 350 years. (2)It is a routine error, of many Protestants, to equate "Word-of-God (The Lord)" with "Bible" ....which is the third part. (beware of bibliolatry) THE "WORD-OF-GOD" is (A) Jesus Christ. The Logos. (B)The Apostolic Traditions/Teachings (Acts 2:42; 1 Cor 11:2; 2 Thess 2:15 & 3:6) (C) The Bible....compiled circa 400AD by Councils of Catholic Bishops with Papal ratifications. (3)Jesus didn't write a book, Nor tell his Apostles to... "Go & write....", Nor did He use his tools to build the Printing Press to make Protestantism possible. Nor did He say: "There'll be a new book in 350 years" (or KJV in 1600 years!) He NEVER gave us a book to argue over the meaning of (This is a retrojection imagined by Protestants to expain the situation they find themselves born into ) The Jews were awaiting The Messiah that would "re-establish the Davidic Kingdom, that would last forever & encompass The Nations". They were not expecting "A New Book". So Jesus talks about "The Kingdom" incessantly. And in Matt 16:18-19 Jesus calls This Kingdom-of-Heaven "MY CHURCH" . He tells Peter IT WILL NEVER FAIL & He gives Peter "The Keys" of This Kingdom-of-Heaven. He selects 12 Apostles as the princes for the 12 tribes and sets Peter up as The Davidic Steward.....a succesive office. (cf Matt 16:18-19 with Isaiah 22:19-23) So, instead of writing a book Jesus founded a living Church... "that would never fail" (Matt 16:18); that he would be with until the end of time (Matt 28:20); & "lead into all Truth". (John 16:13). And if you want to hear this "Word-of-God" he said ""Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me." (You call this "being led by the nose, listening to the teachings of mere men") His Word was entrusted to His Apostolic Church.....not to a book. THE CHURCH IN ACTS (Acts 2:42) "And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ TEACHING and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers." ie "The Mass" & "The oral Apostolic tradition" (Notice "Apostle's Teachings"....NOT Scripture) HOW was this "Tradition" preserved? 2 Tim 2:2 Paul says "You therefore, my child, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that you have heard me say among many witnesses, entrust these to faithful men who will be qualified to teach others as well." You take what I taught you (1 generation) Teach this to others.... (2 generations) Who will teach others.... (3 generations) THREE GENERATIONS! THIS IS CATHOLIC ORAL APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION (Nothing there about writing books, printing them up, scripture studies etc.) So Paul told Timothy to prepare generation after generation of Apostolic Bishop-successors ..."to lead people by the nose". And we see these same in the writings of St Ignatius circa 105 AD & in the other Apostolic Fathers. it was these same Apostolic-Successors that much, much, much later discerned, SELECTED, compiled & authorised this "Bible-thingy" that many Protestants think fell from the sky! (4)The Church in Acts When the first major issue of contention arose ("Must Gentile converts observe the Jewish Law?") what did they do? Peter, the Apostles & Elders had a Council at Jerusalem(chapter 15). They discussed; and made a decision of what was required; NOT BASED ON SCRIPTURE, but solely ON THEIR AUTHORITY & FAITH TRADITION. They than sent their decision out to all the Church in a letter. (This was the first Ecumenical Council of The Catholic Church). The same Catholic Church still does this. This is exactly how they settled the confusion over which writings were inspired & created the Bible. It was the same Catholic bishops, & the same method, & the same authority. HERE'S WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO ....... In every local Church they said let's have a "Tanakh (Old Testament) Study". Then they all said "what the spirit is telling ME". Of course the "Spirit" told them all different truthes". So they said "Let's all do our own thing!; It doesn't matter as long as we "love Jesus" or "Have a personal relationship with Jesus" or "are born again" or "speak in tongues". And when we still disagree we can do Church-Splits or Church-Shopping". The absolute hoot is, these types of Christians claim to be the "biblical" Christians! Just how do they do it with a straight face? Do they read the Bible at all?.... or just a few misunderstood anti-catholic proof-texts? Reading The Bible "through Protestant lenses" is another form of "being led by the nose by the teachings of mere men".....Luther, Calvin, Smyth, White, Taize-Russell etc. etc. etc. or just "my pastor"
Pope Francis is very "selective" in his ambiguity.. He is ambiguous and inaccurate only on certain topics.. but at the same time he knows very well how to be understood when he talks of other topics: capitalism, ecology, social justice etc.. How's that? He can't respond to the "dubia", but He can rebuke Cardinal Sarah for not implementing "Magnum Principium". But what I question is not the Pope's selective ambiguity.. my first concern is that I can't recognize in Him a devout man of prayer, a man of God.. instead I see in Him only a smart politician and a good administrator. I would like to say more, but my English doesn't allow me to go any further.
Stop right there at 14seconds. I'm an I tenzi e student of scripture, born of the Spirit of God. Revelation will tell you to come out of the church of Rome, not in as many words but their coloured clothes and the enigmatic allusions. Do d an E a geki al protest-ant shut h and get it explain ed.
Hi Jerry, your English is just fine. I think God is telling us loud and clear, do not trust any church for your salvation, trust Jesus alone. He paid for your sins in full at the cross. I am a former Catholic and I know I am saved. Best to you.
I'm not sure if it is fair to equate some of the Pope's ambiguous statements with that of Jesus. Jesus had a specific purpose for speaking in parables, sometimes to ensure certain people didn't understand him, sometimes to test the apostles. Pope Francis on the other hand has not yet responded to some very important questions regarding Church teaching (such as with Amoris Laetitia), and he's even received criticisms from a lot of high profile clerics (one of which recently was an American who was forced to resign after releasing his letter to the public). Also, Christ gave Peter a mandate to "feed and tend" to us, his sheep. So while we should give the Pope the benefit of the doubt, and give due deference to his office as Peter's successor, I do think he also has a responsibility to try to clarify himself with the faithful are concerned, especially when the media is so ready to pounce on everything he says.
But what if Francis is trying to show us a parable too? What if he is trying to bring some fresh air into this and people do not want to the fresh air like that of the pharisees. What if Francis does also have a specific purpose to doing the things he does and says and we are just not properly understanding him? I feel as if his plan will not be completed until the end of his papacy.
If the section in Amoris Laetitia on Catholics in objective sin being allowed to the Eucharist is an Parable - then Francis has told us that the Argentinian bishops interpretation of it is the only correct one. (But that troubling section is no parable, of course not).
Mike, does a parable violate Church teaching? It's a silly argument. Jesus had a specific purpose in speaking in parables, he was either trying to confound enemies, illustrate points for not learned people, or doing it for the apostles. Part of the role of the Pope is to speak clearly on matters of faith and doctrine - that's why his role exists, to promote the unity of the Catholic Church. Not responding to his own bishops asking questions about Amoris Laetitia is not "a parable."
Dario Gagliano I think Jesus mostly taught in parables because the simple people of the time were familiar with passing on knowledge throigh story telling.There were no encyclopedias , no internet.People had knowledge entrenched and passed on through generations of story telling . I imagine right up until the different contributors to the Bible could put things in writng.Mark, Matthew Luke, John etc...
Brian, I can't believe this! We have identical stories. I, too, became Catholic during Benedict XVI and I, too, have significant disagreements with the current Pope Francis, yet I still love the Catholic Church and remain part of it. What concerns me that people/media who usually praise Pope Francis are the same people who have been and still are the enemies of the church. Pope Francis's tendency to want to be liked by everyone in spreading of his globalist message (which is very often in opposition to the fundamental teachings of the church) is concerning. Those people, unfortunately, are not flocking to the church. On the contrary, they are hoping that Pope Francis will tarnish the heart of the Church in order to "modernize" it to the liking of secular/atheist/globalist elites. This has nothing to do with being liberal on some issues. I am. I chose to ignore some of his controversial messages as the Church has existed long before Pope Francis and will exist after him. Instead, I focus on practicing and living my Catholic faith daily. Thank you for your videos.
I have problems with any organized religious power structure that big, regardless of its leader. Since we're talking about the Catholic church, the abuse of children remains a serious concern for many, one that many Catholics snidely dismiss.
Cornus....I have to agree with you! I'm still Catholic but also attend a Protestant church. I am holding Priests accountable no longer trusting. My eyes are open. I never liked him, he's a clown! I wouldn't be surprised if he's hiding his own secrets!
The Roman catholic church is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell! You follow doctrines of demons rather than the Word of God! You are all idol worshippers bowing and serving Satan and you don't even know it... Your eternal future is Revelation 21:8 Please seek Jesus and His Truth in the Bible only! " cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"
@@lydiapetra1211 how did protestant church got its bible?! If it is only sola scriptura why are there sooooo many denominations? Is it because all are intrepreting differently!
@@marcuslow1386 IAM not a Protestant..... you would have to ask them! At least Protestant don't serve and worship Satan.. like the Roman catholic church does!
It's gone beyond causing confusion and being misunderstood. He's made himself very clear on the proper interpretation of Amoris Laetitia and that is the problem amongst many. Having said this brother, I like your stuff. Keep posting and hang on tight, it's about to get far worse.
Brian Holdsworth is nothing less than a charlatan that is using the hook of religion to promote his own pocketbook. His comments are neither substantive or relevant and he is only making these videos in hopes of cashing in on some quick bucks.
Yes! A year-and-a-half later, and Pope breaks with tradition and uses his birth name Jorge Mario Bergoglio in the 2020 Vatican year book, he drops all previous Tittles and goes by 'Bishop of Rome'. Shades of Fatima.
@@rosamurphy6988 All is still good. Jesus is still in charge. He is just sleeping in the bow of the boat for the moment. Watch "The Chosen" for a little relief from your sufferings. The lead actor is a devout Catholic. It is wonderful stuff.
The Roman catholic church is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell! Please seek God and His Truth only in the Bible! please google:"cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"
@Assyrian Man this is coming from a loser who doesn't even know that he serves and worships Satan! Yep... you got that right! Satan is your god and Master!
@Assyrian Man Look at you... you don't even know God or His Word the Bible .. you have a worthless religion that's leading you to hell! You are Not a Christian... you don't even know what that means!!!
Remember in the Old Testament the people always got the shepherds they deserved that's how God works most of the time people are looking to point fingers at Pope Francis but the majority of us catholics don't realize that it is because of are infidelity to God that we have issues in the church. especially the hierarchy. God bless
Francis is but a lost sheep and yet he carries the crook and has been leading the others to the cliff... will we ever get a shepherd who can turn back the flock before it is too late?
No, he seemed to have planned his resignation as a retirement many years in advance. He made bishops all across the world resign by the age of 75, for him to resign himself is doing what he preaches.
This video seems even more relevant now than when it first came out. So many Catholics jump to conclusions based on what the media says about Pope Francis, rather than checking things for themselves.
I am a new Catholic as well (just Confirmed Aug. 2017), but my heart is eager and all in like you. I have to say, thank you for a level, thoughtful video.
If you read Chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia and his approved interpretation of it under the Buenos Aires bishopric, there is no ambiguity or confusion about what he says there. And he explicitly contradicts Our Lord's words on the indissolubility of marriage, or at best advocates a kind of moral relativism, like what Benedict condemned.
Im not sure your comparison of the ambigities in Pope Francis' s statements with the various interpretation of Our Lord's statements is a fair one. Jesus said "My sheep hear my voice." Anyone following the evil ways of the world who by choice had hardened his own heart would not understand Jesus. But those who had repented and made themselves humble and meek would understand the hidden meaning. This ambiguity of Jesus was intentional. It allowed him to call His own disciples spread the Gospel of the Kingdom while evading the authorities until the time when He would offer up His life for our sins. By contrast, Pope Francis' unclear statements have sown division and confusion within our Lord's holy Church. Is this the Pop'es intention?
where i disagree with this is that every parable Christ spoke he also provided the proper context of what it officially meant after, or the church provided its interpretation via the sacred tradition. The argument by Brian here is not only naive, but also sinister in the regard that most people coming into the church or who have grown up in the church have had little to no catechesis, and therefore have been relying on what the church officials have said, and now with the AL document those already malformed catholics will be caught unprepared theologically and even spiritually in a lot of cases, and who will Christ judge for the lack of instruction of his flock... those who were charged to teach the flock, and who is the head teacher... Pope Francis! Sorry but Brian needs to look at the fallicies within his own argument from a much broader standpoint, he might've had good instruction, but that doesn't mean every other catholic had a good catechist teaching them the faith, as we know by much more recent polls done by think tanks such as the pew institute, on various key issues such as Contraception, Abortion, and even same sex marriage a vast majority of catholics think these abhorent activities are okay. so this argument fall on its face as soon as you look at the much broader state of the church
Sister Lucia The Seer of Fatima mention that towards the end there would be a diabolical influence in the Vatican. She called it a diabolical disorientation. We know our lady of Akita also said that apostasy would begin at the top or with the Pope. Whether it's attentional or not he is working for an evil force. I do not know what's in his heart
i would like to say it was his formation, but even the post conciliar popes prior to Francis weren't as Marxist as this man, however i tend to go the way that many trads go as far as how the pontificate of Benedict XVI ended, and that's by obvious blackmail and strongarming by the far left, and how Francis hails from the land of liberation theology a theological philosophy the coincides with the leftist prelates and even the radical left wing ngo's of the UN, end point is this papacy has very evil plans for the church
what has Francis said that is so troubling & anti catholic? these claims that he’s marxist & anti biblical seem not only inaccurate but slanderous. which isn’t Christ like in the least.
If the Pope were merely lacking clarity in his speech, that would be fairly benign. The trouble is that he seems to _avoid_ trying to clarify what he means, even when explicitly asked to do so.
I have never read anything from our Pope that leads me to any sort of confusion or disagreement. In regards to the point that you mentioned about the waste of food and stealing from the poor, I strongly believe that Pope Francis point was and still is to make us realized how much food we waste, as we might go to a restaurant pay for a plate and then just eat a bit of it and trash the rest... as for at home it might apply the same, as sometimes we make more that what we already know we will eat and instead of saving it for the following day, or go and share it with a homeless person, instead we trash it...or we buy so much food that we think we will use to prepare our meals for the week or so, but in reality we end up letting some rotten in our fridge because we either take decisions of not cooking that day or other plans pop up... I strongly believe Pope Francis was calling us to be more conscious about our brothers in need, to realize that every bit of food we take we should ask our Lord to give same to those in need, and understand that if we have more that we ought to eat we should share it with others before we let it go to waste. Our Pope is simply following and teaching Jesus’s example and teachings. To best understand many things Pope Francis is saying and doing I recommend anyone to read “The Life of St. Francis of Assisi and The Treatise of Miracles” by Brother Thomas of Celano. Also life of St. Mother Terese of Calcutta, St. John Paul II The Great... when we read the life of the saints, it’s easier to see what God is working on and through His Vicar on earth... and division and confusion will definitely not be the case. Blessing to you, your family and your work.
That’s as deep as his concern for the poor goes. He lives simply, but not. You need to know that the people of Germany thought of him as a man of simple tastes. Well, to the help ,he was very kind and uncondescending to them. In many respects he was just an ordinary German Burger. That was one side of him.
Kika, I have read so many bad things about Pope Francis, I would not know where to start. Perhaps you need to do some basic research and find out just how bad a pope we have.
Thank you for expressing this. I agree with this completely especially with respect to the life of St. Francis of Assisi as a clarifier. There is a reason that this pope chose the name Francis.
@@barmy8219 Pope Francis changed the teachings of the Church on the receiving of Holy Communion by the divorced and remarried, and the teachings on the legitimacy of the death penalty.
The exact problem is that Francis is not clear. Yes, he can always be interpreted in a benign way, but he allows people, for example, to identify waste of food and stealing from the poor, which is false. You cite Mother Theresa, JPII, and so on, but the problem is exactly that you have to have recourse to them to make Francis acceptable. On his own terms, he is equivocal at best.
Well said. And always have happened this kind of disagreement in the Church (Galatians 2, 11-14; about St Paul and St Peter). We just need to trust in Jesus Christ above all things. Our Church is His Church.
I am a catholic and I disagree, that catholics must follow the authority of the church ( Vatican) many sensible catholic bishops and priests and lay people have come out of the 'ROME CATHOLIC CHURCH' but are still very strong , good practicing catholics, called the 'REMNANT CHURCH' Catholics must follow the 10 commandments and the True words of God, but not to any false or Sacriligious caused to the Body of Christ the church by any pope or priests. past popes and priests have led like flocks to the path of Hell, and the same thing is going on at the moment. I need no pope or priest to tell me what is right or wrong. I ask my Lord and the Blessed Mother and the Angels for their guidance.
The authority of the church is the Bible the Catechism of the Catholic Church and church tradition and if the clergy don't follow that you don't follow them all the way up to the Pope. We have had anti popes this is a fact in church history it can happen again.
disagreement does not mean that their is diversity or that you joined a different side completely. Disagreement means that discussion is fruitful and that their is passionate people who want truth to come forward. In our modern age, disagreement can often have such an adversarial notation attached to it, but it really should not. Difference does not mean hatred, suppression, or exclusion, it just means there are different ways of looking at the same paper. Think of it in this terms too. Just because you vote republican, does not mean you are going to agree with every single thing the republican leader does or says, but you still consider yourself a republican. Just because you disagree on small stuff does not necessitate in any form right away that a stark dichotomy exists. No! We need disagreement in the world, in our church, to continue to uncover the truth and what it really means to be a disciple of Jesus Christ. Difference and disagreement is healthy. I regard also to your worry about that phrase with wasting food and what the pope said. We must look at the larger picture. If we are just throwing away food on purpose and with full offence then it is a sin, where we rob from those who go without- we who are rich have taken from the poor. If we are making our best efforts not to throw away food, and to try and conserve as much as possible with kids, then there is no sin. The sin, I will hold, lies in the bigger picture. Remember also, to always go down the path that is least traveled. That is the path of the messiah. That is the hard path that no one else travels voluntarily. We are meant to follow the king down that path where he first lead us. So then, our faith life is called to be challenging. It is suppose to challenge us and keep us from comfort. I think it is amazing when we are challenged by the Pope or a rule by Christ because we are not to be complacent but active and thrive in the challenges. ( I am in no way judging your stance as a Catholic. I don't even know you, and I am just being highly general here for all Catholics)
I am a cradle Catholic. Your comparisons between Pope Francis and Jesus I find very insightful, I would take these comparisons a step further to not only looking at what they say, but (and more importantly) what they DO. Jesus, it seemed to me, frequently followed his sayings with ACTS To provide clarity and authority. Think about this, my compliments, you made me think..........
Good talk! I think you have a healthy approach to these issues. I would like to encourage you to study and learn about the Magisterium and Sacred Tradition in addition to the scriptures. This will enable you to know the mind of the Church. This is important for those times when the Holy Father seems not to be in sync with traditional Church teaching.
We as baptized Catholics are called to pray for our Pope,Bishop's and Priests daily.They need our prayers I need your prayers,you need prayers,this is a communion. Church Triumphant in Heaven. Church suffering in purgatory. Church Militant on Earth. Praying for the souls in purgatory, Church Triumphant praying and interceding for us , Church suffering praying for church militant when they get to Heaven
Thanks young man and thank you Lord for creating his kind of people. I always judge by the Beatitudes. What fits in, I believe. Pope Francis fits in. This is the generation in which the sheep are on one side and the goats on the other. With all the ambiguity, it is easy to determine who is what.
Ppl just don’t get it, one time the pope said Jesus is light and we compare him to the sun (metaphorically). But people were saying that pope Francis said Jesus was the sun.
you seem like a smart man. you should look up stuff on Fatima, and a Vatican insider by the name of Malachi Martin.He wrote so many good books about the faith ,the church, and about popes. or if you want you can look it up on UA-cam! God bless you:)
I know 3 people who became Catholic when Benedict XVI was pope. 2 of them now attend FSSPX masses and the other one goes to the same church as I (FSSP).
We must be patient with this pontificate, strive not to be scandalized to the point of abandoning the Church. Christ allowed this for a reason we don't understand now, He knows absolutely better than we do, and His ways are mysterious but not random or absurd at all. Let's not forget that everything is written. "But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved". (Matthew 24:13)
4:13 I disagree with you when you say " generations of theological clarification ". Are you trying to say that someone today can understand the religion better than someone who lived with the prophets? Sounds weird to me. In everything in life the further we go and the latest thing we have the more updated we are the better it is. But in understanding a religion it's the opposite. The more back you go the better. Just like a river, the water is clearer closer to the spring. How can someone be a better Jew/Christian/Muslim today than the people who lived among the prophets and knew the mentality and social norms of that time?
I think it’s important in trying to understand a pope is to try to understand where they are from. Pope Francis is the first modern pope who is not from the developed world. Most of his stances are not exactly progressive. For instance, despite the shortage of priests that is rapidly approaching a crisis point, I have not heard him even discuss changes in a requirement of celibacy or ordaining women. But he does have a concern, common in Latin America, regarding the global inequality of wealth, for many of those nations have large percentages of their population living in poverty or in genuine destitution. And this gap is growing even in the United States. This was an issue that Jesus spoke about quite often, even calling wealth an impediment to salvation. What Francis is saying is not really new, there have been Latin American theologians and bishops concerned about these issues for decades now. Francis other concern was that Western bishops have been so focused on abortion, birth control, homosexuality, to almost the complete exclusion of other moral issues. Francis is trying to restore the balance in moral theology. Ironically, Jesus himself never mentioned these sexual ethics issues. Not once. But he spoke about wealth and poverty, especially the neglect of the poor by the rich, quite frequently. But the pope does seem able to listen (something many of his predecessors were not good at), and even to publicly apologize for his mistakes. This happened recently over the crisis of sexual abuse of children by the clergy, with bishops enabling serial abusers to harm many more children, by keeping this all a secret. When the pope visited Chile a few months ago, he was not very kind in his treatment of victims. But when Boston’s Archbishop Sean O’Malley, who has had to deal with this a great deal, he chastised the Pope’s lack of understanding, and his response. And Francis did this, in apologizing. How much he commits to solving this problem remains to be seen, and he is trying to deal with an entrenched bureaucracy in Rome. They have been trying to throw all kinds of obstacles in the path of reform, and are continuing to try to protect bishops who covered up these crimes. Now in the past, this issue was more or less a crisis in developed nations, where victims are now encouraged to speak out. It’s only now beginning to be revealed in developing nations, and action is needed, or people will simply abandon the Church. At least, however, Francis seems more willing to deal with it than his predecessors. John Paul II was not a hands on administrator, and he delegated the resolution of this crisis to perhaps the most ill-equipped administrator of all, Joseph Ratzinger. Ratzinger was really the wrong man in the wrong position. He has a brilliant intellect, but not very good pastoral skills, not a good listener, and not a good administrator. He should have remained in academia, where his skills would have been better put to use. I’ll credit him for doing something revolutionary, that is retiring, and stepping away. I know many have a deep admiration for John Paul II, but when your health is at a point where communication is virtually impossible, it’s time to step away. Retirement is not a new idea for bishops - they are required to retire at 75. Pope Francis was retired when elected pope. Perhaps a rigid retirement date is not the best option. Some people are quite able and healthy well into their eighties, and Pope Francis looks quite fit as he approaches 82. Others, however, are not as fortunate, and should retire sooner. Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, but what each of these popes are really going to be remembered for is how they deal with this abuse crisis. It is not just going to go away, and bishops need to be held accountable. Civil governments are not going to sit back and do nothing. It’s now a crime for bishops to not immediately report even a suspicion of abuse to the proper legal authorities. This crisis is by far the most important crisis since the Reformation, and many bishops are really not aware of this. The laity in general “get it”, whereas it’s a huge blind spot for many bishops and prelates.
Thank you. Pope Francis was orthodox in his diocese before becoming pope. In addition, sensible cardinals guided by the Holy Spirit, elected him. Give him the benefit of the diubt
You spoke my thoughts about Pope Francis.. He worries me sometimes because his words spread confusion in our church. I want to love this pope more than I do because he is the pope, but....
I find it fascinating that so many people find fault with this Pope instead of looking at themselves first. The man is the first Pope from the Global South, the first one to not share a collective legacy of being the oppressor, but rather spending his life among the oppressed. As such, his teaching, praxis, and persona look more like Jesus (who also grew up among the oppressed) than any Pope in history. Like Jesus, he is more concerned with the health and wellbeing of the souls under his care than he is about the institutional power of the Roman Church. The reason his statements fall so discordantly on the ears of the Global North is that he isn't burdened with generations of having to assuage the guilt and fears of the powerful to advance the interests of the Church. His statements on things like capitalism, ecology, social justice, etc. are 100% biblical and within the ancient traditions of the Church, they're just not what Catholics have been led to believe in the West; the reason for this is simple: we sold out to 'conservative' economic and social power structures, baptizing them without requiring they conform to Scripture, or Jesus, in order that they would extend power and patronage to the Church. So when a man who is Christ-like to the core takes the head seat, most of the religion loses their mind (ironically, in almost the exact same way as the Pharisees, et al did in Jesus' day). In a very real sense, Pope Francis is the most qualified for the title of "Vicar of Christ", precisely because of the controversy he stirs, which stems not from a desire to cause controversy, but from a genuine calling to fulfill Christ's charge to St. Peter: If you love me, feed my sheep. He's feeding his sheep, including the Church, deep medicine: the kind that stirs controversy the same way a violent cough purges mucous, or the a fever fights a virus. The Church has been deeply sick for generations, and instead of keeping that sickness going, he's trying to be a healer.
Francis is an Argentine. He grew top under Peron and his whole settle of governing asa bishop and as pope is Peronist. Peron came in as a man of the right, but he adopted leftist policies as it suited him and his celebrity wife. Francis’ social and economic view reflect his peronism.
I am late to this conversation. But I am really struggling right now with Church hierarchy. I came into the Church in the early 90s. I have loved the past 2 popes. And I wanted to love Francis.....but I find some aspects of him; disturbing. I need to pray. Brian , God bless you and your family!!
You don't have to agree with the mere opinions of the Pope if you are basing your disagreement in previous Church teaching. This Pope will eventually die and we have to pray that the next one will be faithful to the Holy Tradition and Scriptures. This wouldn't be the first time that we have a Pope that is misleading it's flock (check the story of Pope Honorius). Remember that if you don't pray your daily rosary you are not part of the solution. God bless you!
Of course that demand of him absolute clarity is unrealistic, but the duty of our shepherd is to clarify not to confuse the flock. So, taking into account that he'll never be Cristal clear in all of his announcements and at the same time his duty as Vicar of Christ we conclude that he has to be more careful with the language and of course pay attention to the messenger and it's intentions. At the end of the day, of course there is space to disagree of the Pope, we just hate to have a legitimate reason to do so.
Not necessarily things he says but the things he does. like allowing idols in the church or allowing “ indigenous people”to have rituals in our church or his war on the Latin mass etc. those things kind of bother me.
My disagreement with Bergoglio is not based on the conservative or liberal labels, nor on whether how a source portrays him. I examine his words and actions carefully, seek other opinions and judge for myself. The more I dig, the more clearly I see the can of worms.
Good video. The Catholic Church, with all its faults, is a grown up church. It's okay to disagree with our Pope. Remember he is just our first of all equals.
The Holy Father is NOT a first among equals. That contradicts the very fundamental basis of the chair of Peter. The Papacy is the supreme office of The Church. If you don't accept that, you aren't Catholic.
www.catholic.com/tract/peters-primacy www.catholicfaithandreason.org/papal-supremacy-in-the-bible-and-church-fathers.html "The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter's successor, "is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful."402 "For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered." - Catechism of The Catholic Church If you do not accept that the Vicar of Christ is the Supreme Pontiff over the Universal Church then you are not Catholic. It is Hersey to not accept that. Period. Dominus Vobiscum.
I believe Pope Francis was referring to the wanton waste of food we see on an industrial scale with Countries reaching quota's. Also by raising awareness of the sin of wasting food is surly a good thing. I believe all great religions have a lot to say about wasting food and resources after all it is common sense. God Bless all.
Do any of you recall when Pope Benedict resigned on February 11th 2013, lightning struck the Vatican twice at 5:55 PM? Some took this as a sign that the Eternal Father was not pleased with the resignation of Benedict XVI. 555 in numerology refers to Genesis 3:15 Mary and Jesus will crush the head of Satan Mary is the new Eve Jesus is the new Adam. Mary will crush the head of Satan because of her faith in love and God. Look at it this way 555 has three fives. It also adds up to 15. Again, Genesis 3:15. Let's examine those numbers again. If you change those numbers you get 513 or 5/13 or May 13th. Mary's first Apparition at Fatima. I want to you to recall when Jesus rose from the dead, Jesus told his disciples to cast their nets into the sea. In their nets they caught a hundred and fifty-three fish or 153 which is 3:15 in reverse. There are exactly 153 Angelic salutations or Hail Mary's in a 15 decade Rosary. The rosary actually looks like an old-fashioned Fisherman's Net with the balls floating on top of the water. The symbol of the Fish represents Christ and Christ told his disciples and apostles become Fishers of Men. If you look at the Rosary it is a circle with the crucifix on the end. Mary always leads us back to Jesus. Now if you count the number of days between May 13th and October 13th you get a hundred and fifty three days. I do not believe this is a coincidence. The footnote in Amoris Laetitia that's giving us the most problems is footnote 351 which is the opposite of 153. We know that the final are divisive battle between Lucifer and Our Lady will be over marriage and the family. That is exactly what is happening today. We also know that the dogma of Faith would always be preserved in Portugal which would mean the Dogma Faith would that be preserved elsewhere. I believe that Dogma faith is transubstantiation. Pope Francis is trying to open up communion to those in irregular Unions, which would change the Intent of those who could receive communion. In order to have a valid consecration you have to have proper matter: unleavened bread and Wine. Form: this is my body this is my blood. The exact verbiage that Jesus used at the Last Supper must be proclaimed at the SACRIFICE at the MASS. Intention: The Church's intention must Mass Christ's intention is to give communion to those in the state of grace. Francis is trying to change the church's intention, which would invalidate the Eucharist. We know from Sister Lucy is memoirs at the true Mass would be suppressed. Francis is trying to promote sacrilege deliberately by allowing those in irregular Unions to receive the Eucharist. This is all under a guise of Mercy. It is even in scripture he who drinks the body of Our Lord unworthily, eats and drinks himself to condemnation. The Book of Daniel also speaks of the continuing sacrifice being taken away from the prince. The continuing sacrifice is the Mass the Prince is Jesus Christ. It is also in the catechism of the Catholic Church (675 & 677 ) that the church will go through a great trial. Many people will be deceived and the deception will shake the faith of many believers. The church will also walk the road to Calvary and die and resurrect, like Jesus did. Everything that I discussed seems to be pointing that we are living in the last days, like Our Lady of Fatima in Our Lady of Akita predicted. Our Lady of Fatima is a woman clothed with the sun in the Book of Revelation when she perform the miracle of the Sun at Fatima on October 13th. Our Lady of La Salette warned that Rome would lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist. Our Lady of Akita warned that apostasy would begin at the top. she wanted it would be Cardinal against Cardinal Bishop against bishop and that is what we're seeing today. Cardinal Burke issue the Dubia with 3 other Cardinals and Pope Francis ignored it. We are in serious Danger. Satan wants to claim as many Souls as possible and he is using the clergy and deception to do so. God help us pray the rosary to defeat heresy. one other thing the Saint Michael prayer was composed on October 13th 1884 by Pope Leo XIII. The pope heard Jesus and Satan arguing by the Tabernacle. Satan told Jesus he could destroy the church if he had the time and Power and the influence of the clergy to do his bidding. Jesus gave him the time and the power to do so. It is like a giant jigsaw puzzle and all the pieces are coming into place. It is time to wake up! Too many people are sleeping or ignorant other Catholic faith. Many priests are under diabolical disorientation as described by Sister Lucia in her memoirs. It is up to us to save our own Souls. We need to wake others up as well. I'm sorry if there are spelling and grammatical errors in this response. I used Google dictation to reply to this post.Read more Show less
catholics4unity That is a misinterpretation of Genesis 3:15. The Catholic bible goes so far as to say the serpent will bruise HER heel. The proper interpretation says the serpent will bruise HIS heel meaning Jesus. Jesus and Mary are not a tag team. There is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.
Andy Maynard The Original Latin Vulgate or Dewey Rheims version gives this feminine her heel. It would be her seed Jesus Christ and Her spiritual children will crush the head of Satan. We have statues of Our Lady of Grace with a serpent under her heel. We have the image of Our Lady Of The Miraculous Medal with the serpent under her heel. We have the life of the Blessed Virgin Mary written by Sister Mary Agreta. She wrote the City of God which is the life of the Blessed Virgin Mary. So newer versions are trying to distract from the role of Mary. God is using her again to usher in the second coming of Christ as he did the first coming. This also fits her promise that one day through the Rosary in the scapular she will save the world.
Martin Francis perhaps by dissuading people from believing what I wrote you are doing the work of Satan. Lucifer hates the Blessed Virgin Mary because he knows that she will crush his head. See the response I wrote below.
catholics4unity; Great post.You are right.I like the way you described the rosary circling back to the cross to Jesus and the rosary described as a fisherman's net balls floating on top of the water brilliant.I never heard of that description before.Very good. The miracle of the 153 fish caught is interesting.The miracle was not how many fish caught but that the net never ripped apart signifying the unity of the catholic church.Another point you made was the first apparition at Fatima May 13th to Oct 13th 153 days wow!
It is difficult to become a Catholic in the midst of this big storm, but 'storms' are our thing as Catholics since Christ. Times of apostasy and betrayal of which we were clearly warned by Christ himself and more recently by Our Blessed Mother. But, to be honest, being a Catholic Christian has never been an easy and comfortable task. We must remember that just in the US from its inception as a nation there was continual, often violent, harassment of Catholics by the many Protestant denominations.
I agree totally with you. Pope Benedict was a great theologian but because he was a conservative, he has been often demonized by the press, which has a strong ideological "liberal" bias (and for this reason has now a serious problem of credibility). Pope Francis is a media pope. His main concern is to please the press. Of course, he is not a bad man but he wants to be seen as a "modern" pope, a pope of our time. The danger is that to want too much to be "in", you run the risk of moving away from the traditional message of the Church that has made its strength. When the Church began to move away from its tradition, with the Vatican II, the consequences have been serious. For instance, before Vatican II, the Church had no problem with vocations. After Vatican II, the number of vocations fell dramatically as Rodney Stark (the great American sociologist of religions) points out. Why? Stark asserts (I hope not to betray his explanation that I summarize here from memory) that there is a deep psychological and "rational" reason for that. Christianity is a demanding religion and this exigency is also the condition of salvation, of an eternal joy. If this exigency is weakened, we no longer see why it is important to stay Christian and behave accordingly to get such a reward since the difference between Christianity and the "liberal way" is blurred or no longer exists!
Vatican II is in need of clarification without any doubt. In particular when people like you say it is wonderful. What in particular in the Vatican II documents is wonderful?
Pope Francis is a true Christian Catholic sent by God to our faith. Why are we possessing the spirit of the Pharisees ...? Why are we disagreeing what Pope Francis is telling us...? This things were never seen in the Church! Now, everyone wants to talk without any knowledge. Be careful people, The best way to sow a bad seed is through a good heart speech. We are here to love each other NOT TO ATTACK EACH OTHER. May God free us from criticizing his chosen one and may God's grace reach all sinners. Luke 5, 32 "I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners and need to repent.” 1 John 4 1 My dear friends, not every spirit is to be trusted, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets are at large in the world. 2 This is the proof of the spirit of God: any spirit which acknowledges Jesus Christ, come in human nature, is from God, 3 and no spirit which fails to acknowledge Jesus is from God; it is the spirit of Antichrist, whose coming you have heard of; he is already at large in the world. 4 Children, you are from God and have overcome them, because he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are from the world, and therefore the world inspires what they say, and listens to them. 6 We are from God; whoever recognises God listens to us; anyone who is not from God refuses to listen to us. This is how we can distinguish the spirit of truth from the spirit of falsehood. 7 My dear friends, let us love one another, since love is from God and everyone who loves is a child of God and knows God. 8 Whoever fails to love does not know God, because God is love. 9 This is the revelation of God's love for us, that God sent his only Son into the world that we might have life through him. 10 Love consists in this: it is not we who loved God, but God loved us and sent his Son to expiate our sins. 11 My dear friends, if God loved us so much, we too should love one another. AMEN, AMEN,AMEN
Apparently the pope said “lead me not into temptation” should be taken out of the Lord’s Prayer. I disagree. Why? Because Christ was led into the wilderness specifically to be tempted.
I was so nervous when I saw the title for this video, but Yes!! Once I watched I'm so glad you made this! The trend of disagreeing with the pope and calling him unorthodox frustrates me all the time. Well done
Ptony, maybe you would do well to consider why the faithful are so upset, shocked and disgusted with the worst pope we have ever had. Do some basic research and maybe you will become as frustrated as the rest of us.
On the subject of Father... do you feel this is ambiguous or is Christ who is the truth and not an inerpretaion of it mean exactly that.... Do you not think it extremely important to know and be like the Berean who searched scripture themselves to fund out if what they heard from mere men were true?
Watch the videos of Father Josiah Trenham of St. Andrews Orthodox Church in Riverside, Calif, if you want to have clarity between the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches.
Romans (8:26-27) Saint Paul states: In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.
A very good point. There are even many born Catholics who seems to be close minded and make their own stand against the Pope and the Catholic Church, especially Pope Francis. Thank you and God bless!
Boy what a joy to find your channel! On disagreeing, I don’t think it’s only about holding onto the overwhelming majority of things, but about our common obedience we have to the Magisterium of which he is custodian.
The only way to tell if a pope is trustworthy or not is to look at who his friends are. Pope Francis makes it a point to surround himself with many progressive minded clergy.
It’s good to realize that only God is without sin or error and should Our Pope be perfect? No a good moral earnest Catholic chosen by His Brethren and the Lord? Yes of course- Blind Faith is not okay when we are to discern all! Discussion and Questioning are necessary for growth! The only Judgement I need to fear is that of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
I would NEVER be upset at someone telling me that my actions could harm others. Not eating animals, going No-waste, being frugal, not polluting, not supporting child labor... only christians can get upset when their leaders suggest they ACTUALLY ACT WITH COMPASSION. ugh
I just know that Fr. Gabriel Bunge ( a famous Swiss Catholic theologian and hermit, who converted from Catholicism to the Orthodox Church) likes also Pope Benedict XVI much more than Pope Francis.
The Church is one thing: Faithful to Jesus's teachings. Whatever goes against what the Catechism teaches _is_ wrong, no matter who says it: *even the pope.* Currently, the pope is highly misleading people, and what he says on some subjects may lead some to heresy. This is why we will ALWAYS focus on what the Church always taught, because we sadly *know* what goes on in the Vatican right now.
Disclaimer: I’m Orthodox not Catholic. I found this to be an awesome take. I don’t involve myself much with internal Catholic disputes, particularly around Pope Francis, but when I did I found myself taken in by all the critique of Francis as a liberal, progressive, heretic, or whatever. He may or may not be one of those pejoratives, but people definitively tear into his statements too much. It’s too easy to believe the most uncharitable interpretation.
You should be disagreeing with the Pope, Brian. There are some statements he has made that are in their entirety that can be watched and listened to; Such as when he told the little boy who had an atheist father that he was in heaven and told the boy to pray to him. Catholic or not, this man has said things not only against Christianity but agains Catholicism also.
First video I've watched by you, thank you. I'm going to subscribe and come back when I have time. But regarding your comparison between Christ and Pope Francis, let's go with that, and here's the thing. When you get down to what Christ meant, it was good. For much of what Francis says, it is not good. Whether Francis knows it or intends it as such is another question, and maybe only God knows. But Francis, in far too much of what he says, unfortunately, is reckless and undeniably embedded with leftist politics. As followers of Christ, we must do the work necessary to remain in the will and truth of God. Vigilant! particularly in these times against political influence from any direction. Francis is all-to-happy in careless speech and deed. Not to worry, God's Church will prevail.
Of all the things you have a problem with Pope Francis, you chose an example that actually puts him well within ascetic Patristic beliefs and criticisms of the common people, especially St. Basil the Great and St. John Chrysostom. If you read these, you will feel personally uncomfortable with yourself, as I do with myself in the luxury of my household, and rightfully so! So I think you need to really test yourself and maybe that’s not something, even if out of context, that should trouble you of Pope Francis. There are other things he said that I find troubling, and quite at odds with Pope Benedict, who is much more exemplary in my opinion.
I enthusiastically support this pope's efforts to remind the spoiled Western world--and yes, Brian, that includes you and me--that we aren't though we could be doing more.
I had quite a few comments mostly responding to Jeff Fenske and a Mary Louise that I thought were very relevant and pointed out why we should be opposed to "pope" Francis and that he was destroying the Church. I spent a lot of time writing them and it seems to me the entire thread has been deleted! I think I made very valid points. Is this discussion being monitored to delete comments that show why your view is wrong?
You really got on the right track here. Don't let the media influence how you understand the Pope, they don't understand the Church or want to. Pope Francis is orthodox and faithful to the Magisterium though he has his shortcomings. He probably talks more than he should, but I should not be heard judging anyone for that. We got used to the precision of Ratzinger, but I think that Bergoglio may reach many people who his predecessors may not have.
@Brian Holdsworth I don't believe that the statement was directed towards unintentional mismanagement of resources, but of careless disregard of America's abundance. Have you ever worked at a restaurant, and seen how many TONS of food are in the trash bin annually?
Now, 5 years later, I'm revisiting the content of this video. A lot has happened since then and a lot more context informs my thoughts on this pontificate. I will say, for now, I'm far less eager to excuse the objectively poor leadership in the Church today, including Francis' pontificate. At this point in his Papacy, I was far more eager to give the benefit of the doubt. As a matter of charity, that still is my first impulse, but I also recognize the considerable problems in his behaviour and opinions (that get distributed as if they are magisterial). In short, take what I have to say in this video with a grain of salt and not as something that is fully reflective of my thoughts today.
I appreciate your video, especially this clarification. Im reformed protestant but I have been studying Church history and am inching closer to doing the RCIA but I have hinderances on certain topics like this Pope’s words and conduct not being in line with the Faith and it seems im not alone.
Brian, thank you for your content!
I am Orthodox, but not hostile to Catholicism, I really appreciate the music, the legacy, etc. But some things still just rub me the wrong way. And this issue is a prime example of that.
Some people think Vatican II was this liberal conspiracy. But look at Lumen Gentium: "This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking".
Assuming this is literally canon now, is it really possible to criticize any word of any pope at this point? Even bishops? That's one of the main Orthodox objections to Catholicism, especially post-Vatican I: it seems like the Orthodox can still rely on their consciousness (given you are striving for a proper spiritual life) and the Church Fathers, whereas even the most liberal Catholic documents seem to indicate that the way to salvation is basically listening to the Pope 24/7. It's hard for me to accept the concept of "institutionalized charisma" of the papacy per se, but with regards to Vatican II it gets even more strange, considering the fact that a lot of trad Catholics are still comfortable enough going against the pope which essentially might mean going against their own canons.
How do you deal with this issue? I'm genuinely curious, it's not a dig, even for me as an Orthodox Christian it's an open question.
God bless.
The problem is the internet. Here is a video that shows how people get their information on the pope from people on the internet: ua-cam.com/video/uKUdy0xRjxI/v-deo.html
Brian do you give perfect obedience to the holy father that's my question
The Pontiff, doesn’t represent Christ. If he or any Bishop makes such a claim run away screaming. The Pontiff, Patriarchs, Bishops, Priests, Presbyters, Pastors or Ministers can at best represent the Church and least their individual churches.
The job of the Pope is to bring clarity and unity to the teachings of the Catholic Church not confusion and disunity which is where we seem to be with Pope Francis. I think most Catholics who take their faith seriously are pretty frustrated with this aspect Pope Francis' Papacy because our job of doing apologetics and evangalisation that much harder.
coldforgedcowboy I agree with what you said ambiguity is not the work of the Holy Spirit. The Pope needs to be very clear on the teachings of the church. Amoris Laetitia contradicts John Paul's exhortation familiaris consortio of 1981. John Paul had clear guidelines to whom communion should be distributed and who should approach Holy Communion. Those in the state of adultery or irregular unions were not allowed to receive the sacrament. It would be sacrilegious.
where does it specify in church teaching of the Pope Obligation to "clarity" and "unity" please cite your statements that I may better understand it.
marcel Fiu...... Read the decrees of Vatican I. :-)
What rubbish. Blaming the Church for everything. Get a life. The Pope has brought a new inspiring perspective that embraces creation and a holistic outlook of integralism- something very needed in our times of atomised and specialised voices. Stop criticising and get out there and use your talents for the City of God.
Ardent
But The Bible tells you that The Church (not "The Bible)....."IS THE PILLAR & FOUNDATION OF TRUTH?" (1 Tim 3:15)
(1)How do you even know that 1 Peter is "God-breathed"?
Because Catholic tradition held it as such; & 3 Councils of Catholic Bishops included it in their SELECTION of such books, permitted to be read from at The Holy Mass....Ratified by several popes, this selected library became known as "THE BIBLE"! All around 400 AD!.....after preaching The Gospel (with no Bible) for 350 years.
(2)It is a routine error, of many Protestants, to equate "Word-of-God (The Lord)" with "Bible" ....which is the third part. (beware of bibliolatry)
THE "WORD-OF-GOD" is
(A) Jesus Christ. The Logos.
(B)The Apostolic Traditions/Teachings (Acts 2:42; 1 Cor 11:2; 2 Thess 2:15 & 3:6)
(C) The Bible....compiled circa 400AD by Councils of Catholic Bishops with Papal ratifications.
(3)Jesus didn't write a book,
Nor tell his Apostles to... "Go & write....",
Nor did He use his tools to build the Printing Press to make Protestantism possible.
Nor did He say: "There'll be a new book in 350 years" (or KJV in 1600 years!)
He NEVER gave us a book to argue over the meaning of (This is a retrojection imagined by Protestants to expain the situation they find themselves born into )
The Jews were awaiting The Messiah that would "re-establish the Davidic Kingdom, that would last forever & encompass The Nations".
They were not expecting "A New Book".
So Jesus talks about "The Kingdom" incessantly.
And in Matt 16:18-19 Jesus calls This Kingdom-of-Heaven "MY CHURCH" .
He tells Peter IT WILL NEVER FAIL & He gives Peter "The Keys" of This Kingdom-of-Heaven. He selects 12 Apostles as the princes for the 12 tribes and sets Peter up as The Davidic Steward.....a succesive office. (cf Matt 16:18-19 with Isaiah 22:19-23)
So, instead of writing a book Jesus founded a living Church...
"that would never fail" (Matt 16:18);
that he would be with until the end of time (Matt 28:20); &
"lead into all Truth". (John 16:13). And if you want to hear this "Word-of-God" he said
""Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me."
(You call this "being led by the nose, listening to the teachings of mere men")
His Word was entrusted to His Apostolic Church.....not to a book.
THE CHURCH IN ACTS
(Acts 2:42) "And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ TEACHING and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers."
ie "The Mass" & "The oral Apostolic tradition"
(Notice "Apostle's Teachings"....NOT Scripture)
HOW was this "Tradition" preserved?
2 Tim 2:2 Paul says
"You therefore, my child, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that you have heard me say among many witnesses, entrust these to faithful men who will be qualified to teach others as well."
You take what I taught you (1 generation)
Teach this to others.... (2 generations)
Who will teach others.... (3 generations)
THREE GENERATIONS! THIS IS CATHOLIC ORAL APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
(Nothing there about writing books, printing them up, scripture studies etc.)
So Paul told Timothy to prepare generation after generation of Apostolic Bishop-successors ..."to lead people by the nose".
And we see these same in the writings of St Ignatius circa 105 AD & in the other Apostolic Fathers.
it was these same Apostolic-Successors that much, much, much later discerned, SELECTED, compiled & authorised this "Bible-thingy" that many Protestants think fell from the sky!
(4)The Church in Acts
When the first major issue of contention arose ("Must Gentile converts observe the Jewish Law?") what did they do?
Peter, the Apostles & Elders had a Council at Jerusalem(chapter 15). They discussed; and made a decision of what was required;
NOT BASED ON SCRIPTURE, but solely ON THEIR AUTHORITY & FAITH TRADITION.
They than sent their decision out to all the Church in a letter. (This was the first Ecumenical Council of The Catholic Church). The same Catholic Church still does this.
This is exactly how they settled the confusion over which writings were inspired & created the Bible.
It was the same Catholic bishops, & the same method, & the same authority.
HERE'S WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO ....... In every local Church they said let's have a "Tanakh (Old Testament) Study". Then they all said "what the spirit is telling ME". Of course the "Spirit" told them all different truthes". So they said "Let's all do our own thing!; It doesn't matter as long as we "love Jesus" or "Have a personal relationship with Jesus" or "are born again" or "speak in tongues". And when we still disagree we can do Church-Splits or Church-Shopping".
The absolute hoot is, these types of Christians claim to be the "biblical" Christians!
Just how do they do it with a straight face?
Do they read the Bible at all?.... or just a few misunderstood anti-catholic proof-texts?
Reading The Bible "through Protestant lenses" is another form of "being led by the nose by the teachings of mere men".....Luther, Calvin, Smyth, White, Taize-Russell etc. etc. etc. or just "my pastor"
Pope Francis is very "selective" in his ambiguity..
He is ambiguous and inaccurate only on certain topics.. but at the same time he knows very well how to be understood when he talks of other topics: capitalism, ecology, social justice etc.. How's that?
He can't respond to the "dubia", but He can rebuke Cardinal Sarah for not implementing "Magnum Principium".
But what I question is not the Pope's selective ambiguity.. my first concern is that I can't recognize in Him a devout man of prayer, a man of God.. instead I see in Him only a smart politician and a good administrator.
I would like to say more, but my English doesn't allow me to go any further.
You've already succeeded in saying much that is true! Pls just remember to pray hard and for him too.
Stop right there at 14seconds. I'm an I tenzi e student of scripture, born of the Spirit of God.
Revelation will tell you to come out of the church of Rome, not in as many words but their coloured clothes and the enigmatic allusions. Do d an E a geki al protest-ant shut h and get it explain ed.
.....is he even a good administrator?
Hi Jerry, your English is just fine. I think God is telling us loud and clear, do not trust any church for your salvation, trust Jesus alone. He paid for your sins in full at the cross. I am a former Catholic and I know I am saved. Best to you.
HI Mary, I agree with everything you said. We are in the end times and Jesus is coming soon.
I'm not sure if it is fair to equate some of the Pope's ambiguous statements with that of Jesus. Jesus had a specific purpose for speaking in parables, sometimes to ensure certain people didn't understand him, sometimes to test the apostles. Pope Francis on the other hand has not yet responded to some very important questions regarding Church teaching (such as with Amoris Laetitia), and he's even received criticisms from a lot of high profile clerics (one of which recently was an American who was forced to resign after releasing his letter to the public). Also, Christ gave Peter a mandate to "feed and tend" to us, his sheep. So while we should give the Pope the benefit of the doubt, and give due deference to his office as Peter's successor, I do think he also has a responsibility to try to clarify himself with the faithful are concerned, especially when the media is so ready to pounce on everything he says.
But what if Francis is trying to show us a parable too? What if he is trying to bring some fresh air into this and people do not want to the fresh air like that of the pharisees. What if Francis does also have a specific purpose to doing the things he does and says and we are just not properly understanding him? I feel as if his plan will not be completed until the end of his papacy.
If the section in Amoris Laetitia on Catholics in objective sin being allowed to the Eucharist is an Parable - then Francis has told us that the Argentinian bishops interpretation of it is the only correct one.
(But that troubling section is no parable, of course not).
Mike, does a parable violate Church teaching?
It's a silly argument.
Jesus had a specific purpose in speaking in parables, he was either trying to confound enemies, illustrate points for not learned people, or doing it for the apostles. Part of the role of the Pope is to speak clearly on matters of faith and doctrine - that's why his role exists, to promote the unity of the Catholic Church. Not responding to his own bishops asking questions about Amoris Laetitia is not "a parable."
Dario Gagliano I think Jesus mostly taught in parables because the simple people of the time were familiar with passing on knowledge throigh story telling.There were no encyclopedias , no internet.People had knowledge entrenched and passed on through generations of story telling . I imagine right up until the different contributors to the Bible could put things in writng.Mark, Matthew Luke, John etc...
Mike R The question is, What is Pope Francis parable? Jesus parables are all the parables I need. No need to update or modernize Jesus parables.
Media who is inaccurate about POPE FRANCIS. Regardless what the media is saying POPE IS RIGHT.
Brian, I can't believe this! We have identical stories. I, too, became Catholic during Benedict XVI and I, too, have significant disagreements with the current Pope Francis, yet I still love the Catholic Church and remain part of it. What concerns me that people/media who usually praise Pope Francis are the same people who have been and still are the enemies of the church. Pope Francis's tendency to want to be liked by everyone in spreading of his globalist message (which is very often in opposition to the fundamental teachings of the church) is concerning. Those people, unfortunately, are not flocking to the church. On the contrary, they are hoping that Pope Francis will tarnish the heart of the Church in order to "modernize" it to the liking of secular/atheist/globalist elites. This has nothing to do with being liberal on some issues. I am. I chose to ignore some of his controversial messages as the Church has existed long before Pope Francis and will exist after him. Instead, I focus on practicing and living my Catholic faith daily. Thank you for your videos.
I have problems with any organized religious power structure that big, regardless of its leader.
Since we're talking about the Catholic church, the abuse of children remains a serious concern for many, one that many Catholics snidely dismiss.
Cornus....I have to agree with you! I'm still Catholic but also attend a Protestant church. I am holding Priests accountable no longer trusting. My eyes are open. I never liked him, he's a clown! I wouldn't be surprised if he's hiding his own secrets!
The Roman catholic church is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell!
You follow doctrines of demons rather than the Word of God!
You are all idol worshippers bowing and serving Satan and you don't even know it...
Your eternal future is Revelation 21:8
Please seek Jesus and His Truth in the Bible only!
" cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"
@@lydiapetra1211 how did protestant church got its bible?!
If it is only sola scriptura why are there sooooo many denominations? Is it because all are intrepreting differently!
@@marcuslow1386 IAM not a Protestant..... you would have to ask them!
At least Protestant don't serve and worship Satan.. like the Roman catholic church does!
It's gone beyond causing confusion and being misunderstood. He's made himself very clear on the proper interpretation of Amoris Laetitia and that is the problem amongst many. Having said this brother, I like your stuff. Keep posting and hang on tight, it's about to get far worse.
Andiamo Lire Forex & Crypto a year later.......... and it has
Brian Holdsworth is nothing less than a charlatan that is using the hook of religion to promote his own pocketbook. His comments are neither substantive or relevant and he is only making these videos in hopes of cashing in on some quick bucks.
Yes! A year-and-a-half later, and Pope breaks with tradition and uses his birth name Jorge Mario Bergoglio in the 2020 Vatican year book, he drops all previous Tittles and goes by 'Bishop of Rome'. Shades of Fatima.
@@rosamurphy6988 All is still good. Jesus is still in charge. He is just sleeping in the bow of the boat for the moment. Watch "The Chosen" for a little relief from your sufferings. The lead actor is a devout Catholic. It is wonderful stuff.
@@andiamolireforexcrypto wow....that's absolutely blasphemy against Jesus!
My issue with Pope Francis are less to do with things like how wasting food is bad, but when we blatantly promotes anti Catholic positions.
This hit me in the feels. I can no longer defend him. And I doubt you feel the same now as when you did when you made this.
Pope Francis is not perfect as Peter himself wasn't... and still Jesus chose him. We must pray for him and all our clergy in these turbulent times.
Marisela Becerra Well said. The Pope and the Church needs our prayers more than our criticisms...
The Roman catholic church is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell!
Please seek God and His Truth only in the Bible!
please google:"cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"
@Assyrian Man this is coming from a loser who doesn't even know that he serves and worships Satan!
Yep... you got that right!
Satan is your god and Master!
@Assyrian Man Roman catholics and Eastern Orthodox are Not Christians!...
@Assyrian Man Look at you... you don't even know God or His Word the Bible .. you have a worthless religion that's leading you to hell!
You are Not a Christian... you don't even know what that means!!!
Remember in the Old Testament the people always got the shepherds they deserved that's how God works most of the time people are looking to point fingers at Pope Francis but the majority of us catholics don't realize that it is because of are infidelity to God that we have issues in the church.
especially the hierarchy. God bless
What's your thoughts on Amoris Laetitia?
We love him and pray for his conversion. but today in 2019 we know his motives are. Not good for our church
Francis is but a lost sheep and yet he carries the crook and has been leading the others to the cliff... will we ever get a shepherd who can turn back the flock before it is too late?
Pope Benedict might have been forced to resign by the liberal cardinals
It seems to be that one has to believe the motive he gave himself and avoid such speculation.
No, he seemed to have planned his resignation as a retirement many years in advance. He made bishops all across the world resign by the age of 75, for him to resign himself is doing what he preaches.
Jesus said the first Mass in the vernacular, Aramaic. If the vernacular was good enough for Jesus should it not suffice for us?
Carmelo Junior he definitely was there's something going on. There's a reason why lightning struck the Vatican twice The Day He resigned
And here is the topic that will draw the attention of the crowd with shiny foil hats.
This video seems even more relevant now than when it first came out. So many Catholics jump to conclusions based on what the media says about Pope Francis, rather than checking things for themselves.
I am a new Catholic as well (just Confirmed Aug. 2017), but my heart is eager and all in like you. I have to say, thank you for a level, thoughtful video.
If you read Chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia and his approved interpretation of it under the Buenos Aires bishopric, there is no ambiguity or confusion about what he says there. And he explicitly contradicts Our Lord's words on the indissolubility of marriage, or at best advocates a kind of moral relativism, like what Benedict condemned.
I dont get it. Does that mean he isnt pope?
Im not sure your comparison of the ambigities in Pope Francis' s statements with the various interpretation of Our Lord's statements is a fair one. Jesus said "My sheep hear my voice." Anyone following the evil ways of the world who by choice had hardened his own heart would not understand Jesus. But those who had repented and made themselves humble and meek would understand the hidden meaning. This ambiguity of Jesus was intentional. It allowed him to call His own disciples spread the Gospel of the Kingdom while evading the authorities until the time when He would offer up His life for our sins. By contrast, Pope Francis' unclear statements have sown division and confusion within our Lord's holy Church. Is this the Pop'es intention?
where i disagree with this is that every parable Christ spoke he also provided the proper context of what it officially meant after, or the church provided its interpretation via the sacred tradition. The argument by Brian here is not only naive, but also sinister in the regard that most people coming into the church or who have grown up in the church have had little to no catechesis, and therefore have been relying on what the church officials have said, and now with the AL document those already malformed catholics will be caught unprepared theologically and even spiritually in a lot of cases, and who will Christ judge for the lack of instruction of his flock... those who were charged to teach the flock, and who is the head teacher... Pope Francis! Sorry but Brian needs to look at the fallicies within his own argument from a much broader standpoint, he might've had good instruction, but that doesn't mean every other catholic had a good catechist teaching them the faith, as we know by much more recent polls done by think tanks such as the pew institute, on various key issues such as Contraception, Abortion, and even same sex marriage a vast majority of catholics think these abhorent activities are okay. so this argument fall on its face as soon as you look at the much broader state of the church
AnnInFL - I was going to make the same point.
Sister Lucia The Seer of Fatima mention that towards the end there would be a diabolical influence in the Vatican. She called it a diabolical disorientation. We know our lady of Akita also said that apostasy would begin at the top or with the Pope. Whether it's attentional or not he is working for an evil force. I do not know what's in his heart
i would like to say it was his formation, but even the post conciliar popes prior to Francis weren't as Marxist as this man, however i tend to go the way that many trads go as far as how the pontificate of Benedict XVI ended, and that's by obvious blackmail and strongarming by the far left, and how Francis hails from the land of liberation theology a theological philosophy the coincides with the leftist prelates and even the radical left wing ngo's of the UN, end point is this papacy has very evil plans for the church
what has Francis said that is so troubling & anti catholic? these claims that he’s marxist & anti biblical seem not only inaccurate but slanderous. which isn’t Christ like in the least.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a year or two. NOT anymore......
If the Pope were merely lacking clarity in his speech, that would be fairly benign. The trouble is that he seems to _avoid_ trying to clarify what he means, even when explicitly asked to do so.
I have never read anything from our Pope that leads me to any sort of confusion or disagreement. In regards to the point that you mentioned about the waste of food and stealing from the poor, I strongly believe that Pope Francis point was and still is to make us realized how much food we waste, as we might go to a restaurant pay for a plate and then just eat a bit of it and trash the rest... as for at home it might apply the same, as sometimes we make more that what we already know we will eat and instead of saving it for the following day, or go and share it with a homeless person, instead we trash it...or we buy so much food that we think we will use to prepare our meals for the week or so, but in reality we end up letting some rotten in our fridge because we either take decisions of not cooking that day or other plans pop up... I strongly believe Pope Francis was calling us to be more conscious about our brothers in need, to realize that every bit of food we take we should ask our Lord to give same to those in need, and understand that if we have more that we ought to eat we should share it with others before we let it go to waste. Our Pope is simply following and teaching Jesus’s example and teachings. To best understand many things Pope Francis is saying and doing I recommend anyone to read “The Life of St. Francis of Assisi and The Treatise of Miracles” by Brother Thomas of Celano. Also life of St. Mother Terese of Calcutta, St. John Paul II The Great... when we read the life of the saints, it’s easier to see what God is working on and through His Vicar on earth... and division and confusion will definitely not be the case. Blessing to you, your family and your work.
That’s as deep as his concern for the poor goes. He lives simply, but not. You need to know that the people of Germany thought of him as a man of simple tastes. Well, to the help ,he was very kind and uncondescending to them. In many respects he was just an ordinary German Burger. That was one side of him.
Kika, I have read so many bad things about Pope Francis, I would not know where to start. Perhaps you need to do some basic research and find out just how bad a pope we have.
Thank you for expressing this. I agree with this completely especially with respect to the life of St. Francis of Assisi as a clarifier. There is a reason that this pope chose the name Francis.
@@barmy8219 Pope Francis changed the teachings of the Church on the receiving of Holy Communion by the divorced and remarried, and the teachings on the legitimacy of the death penalty.
The exact problem is that Francis is not clear. Yes, he can always be interpreted in a benign way, but he allows people, for example, to identify waste of food and stealing from the poor, which is false. You cite Mother Theresa, JPII, and so on, but the problem is exactly that you have to have recourse to them to make Francis acceptable. On his own terms, he is equivocal at best.
You’re not the only one who disagree with this Pope. Actually we are many, especially after the Amazon event.
Well said. And always have happened this kind of disagreement in the Church (Galatians 2, 11-14; about St Paul and St Peter). We just need to trust in Jesus Christ above all things. Our Church is His Church.
Love this video. I feel sorry for ANY pope..... but we Catholics must follow the authority of the Church. .. it will NEVER be overcome.. God bless
I am a catholic and I disagree, that catholics must follow the authority of the church ( Vatican) many sensible catholic bishops and priests and lay people have come out of the 'ROME CATHOLIC CHURCH' but are still very strong , good practicing catholics, called the 'REMNANT CHURCH'
Catholics must follow the 10 commandments and the True words of God, but not to any false or Sacriligious caused to the Body of Christ the church by any pope or priests.
past popes and priests have led like flocks to the path of Hell, and the same thing is going on at the moment.
I need no pope or priest to tell me what is right or wrong. I ask my Lord and the Blessed Mother and the Angels for their guidance.
The authority of the church is the Bible the Catechism of the Catholic Church and church tradition and if the clergy don't follow that you don't follow them all the way up to the Pope. We have had anti popes this is a fact in church history it can happen again.
disagreement does not mean that their is diversity or that you joined a different side completely. Disagreement means that discussion is fruitful and that their is passionate people who want truth to come forward. In our modern age, disagreement can often have such an adversarial notation attached to it, but it really should not. Difference does not mean hatred, suppression, or exclusion, it just means there are different ways of looking at the same paper. Think of it in this terms too. Just because you vote republican, does not mean you are going to agree with every single thing the republican leader does or says, but you still consider yourself a republican. Just because you disagree on small stuff does not necessitate in any form right away that a stark dichotomy exists. No! We need disagreement in the world, in our church, to continue to uncover the truth and what it really means to be a disciple of Jesus Christ. Difference and disagreement is healthy.
I regard also to your worry about that phrase with wasting food and what the pope said. We must look at the larger picture. If we are just throwing away food on purpose and with full offence then it is a sin, where we rob from those who go without- we who are rich have taken from the poor. If we are making our best efforts not to throw away food, and to try and conserve as much as possible with kids, then there is no sin. The sin, I will hold, lies in the bigger picture.
Remember also, to always go down the path that is least traveled. That is the path of the messiah. That is the hard path that no one else travels voluntarily. We are meant to follow the king down that path where he first lead us. So then, our faith life is called to be challenging. It is suppose to challenge us and keep us from comfort. I think it is amazing when we are challenged by the Pope or a rule by Christ because we are not to be complacent but active and thrive in the challenges. ( I am in no way judging your stance as a Catholic. I don't even know you, and I am just being highly general here for all Catholics)
I am a cradle Catholic. Your comparisons between Pope Francis and Jesus I find very insightful, I would take these comparisons a step further to not only looking at what they say, but (and more importantly) what they DO. Jesus, it seemed to me, frequently followed his sayings with ACTS
To provide clarity and authority. Think about this, my compliments, you made me think..........
Good talk! I think you have a healthy approach to these issues. I would like to encourage you to study and learn about the Magisterium and Sacred Tradition in addition to the scriptures. This will enable you to know the mind of the Church. This is important for those times when the Holy Father seems not to be in sync with traditional Church teaching.
This video is 4 years old. I have only had problems with Francis since he started undermining the Traditional Latin Mass in Traditiones Custodes.
Thank you for this,I feel the same way and have felt conflicted over it
I miss Benedict XVI as Pope. I'm somewhat worried with this current Pope.
I'm wondering what you're saying now over a year later after making this video.
We as baptized Catholics are called to pray for our Pope,Bishop's and Priests daily.They need our prayers I need your prayers,you need prayers,this is a communion.
Church Triumphant in Heaven.
Church suffering in purgatory.
Church Militant on Earth.
Praying for the souls in purgatory, Church Triumphant praying and interceding for us , Church suffering praying for church militant when they get to Heaven
Thanks young man and thank you Lord for creating his kind of people. I always judge by the Beatitudes. What fits in, I believe. Pope Francis fits in. This is the generation in which the sheep are on one side and the goats on the other. With all the ambiguity, it is easy to determine who is what.
I disagree with Pope Francis on some things, is that okay? Am I still a good Christian?
Ppl just don’t get it, one time the pope said Jesus is light and we compare him to the sun (metaphorically).
But people were saying that pope Francis said Jesus was the sun.
you seem like a smart man. you should look up stuff on Fatima, and a Vatican insider by the name of Malachi Martin.He wrote so many good books about the faith ,the church, and about popes. or if you want you can look it up on UA-cam! God bless you:)
Martin was a bit nuts. Lots of good stuff, lots of crazy stuff.
I know 3 people who became Catholic when Benedict XVI was pope. 2 of them now attend FSSPX masses and the other one goes to the same church as I (FSSP).
You ought to take a look at the fraternal Society of St Peter
We must be patient with this pontificate, strive not to be scandalized to the point of abandoning the Church. Christ allowed this for a reason we don't understand now, He knows absolutely better than we do, and His ways are mysterious but not random or absurd at all. Let's not forget that everything is written. "But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved". (Matthew 24:13)
4:13 I disagree with you when you say " generations of theological clarification ". Are you trying to say that someone today can understand the religion better than someone who lived with the prophets? Sounds weird to me. In everything in life the further we go and the latest thing we have the more updated we are the better it is. But in understanding a religion it's the opposite. The more back you go the better. Just like a river, the water is clearer closer to the spring. How can someone be a better Jew/Christian/Muslim today than the people who lived among the prophets and knew the mentality and social norms of that time?
I think it’s important in trying to understand a pope is to try to understand where they are from. Pope Francis is the first modern pope who is not from the developed world. Most of his stances are not exactly progressive. For instance, despite the shortage of priests that is rapidly approaching a crisis point, I have not heard him even discuss changes in a requirement of celibacy or ordaining women.
But he does have a concern, common in Latin America, regarding the global inequality of wealth, for many of those nations have large percentages of their population living in poverty or in genuine destitution. And this gap is growing even in the United States. This was an issue that Jesus spoke about quite often, even calling wealth an impediment to salvation. What Francis is saying is not really new, there have been Latin American theologians and bishops concerned about these issues for decades now.
Francis other concern was that Western bishops have been so focused on abortion, birth control, homosexuality, to almost the complete exclusion of other moral issues. Francis is trying to restore the balance in moral theology. Ironically, Jesus himself never mentioned these sexual ethics issues. Not once. But he spoke about wealth and poverty, especially the neglect of the poor by the rich, quite frequently.
But the pope does seem able to listen (something many of his predecessors were not good at), and even to publicly apologize for his mistakes. This happened recently over the crisis of sexual abuse of children by the clergy, with bishops enabling serial abusers to harm many more children, by keeping this all a secret. When the pope visited Chile a few months ago, he was not very kind in his treatment of victims. But when Boston’s Archbishop Sean O’Malley, who has had to deal with this a great deal, he chastised the Pope’s lack of understanding, and his response. And Francis did this, in apologizing.
How much he commits to solving this problem remains to be seen, and he is trying to deal with an entrenched bureaucracy in Rome. They have been trying to throw all kinds of obstacles in the path of reform, and are continuing to try to protect bishops who covered up these crimes.
Now in the past, this issue was more or less a crisis in developed nations, where victims are now encouraged to speak out. It’s only now beginning to be revealed in developing nations, and action is needed, or people will simply abandon the Church.
At least, however, Francis seems more willing to deal with it than his predecessors. John Paul II was not a hands on administrator, and he delegated the resolution of this crisis to perhaps the most ill-equipped administrator of all, Joseph Ratzinger.
Ratzinger was really the wrong man in the wrong position. He has a brilliant intellect, but not very good pastoral skills, not a good listener, and not a good administrator. He should have remained in academia, where his skills would have been better put to use. I’ll credit him for doing something revolutionary, that is retiring, and stepping away. I know many have a deep admiration for John Paul II, but when your health is at a point where communication is virtually impossible, it’s time to step away. Retirement is not a new idea for bishops - they are required to retire at 75. Pope Francis was retired when elected pope.
Perhaps a rigid retirement date is not the best option. Some people are quite able and healthy well into their eighties, and Pope Francis looks quite fit as he approaches 82. Others, however, are not as fortunate, and should retire sooner.
Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, but what each of these popes are really going to be remembered for is how they deal with this abuse crisis. It is not just going to go away, and bishops need to be held accountable. Civil governments are not going to sit back and do nothing. It’s now a crime for bishops to not immediately report even a suspicion of abuse to the proper legal authorities. This crisis is by far the most important crisis since the Reformation, and many bishops are really not aware of this. The laity in general “get it”, whereas it’s a huge blind spot for many bishops and prelates.
Read Amoris Laetitia it is pure heresy
What the bishops Argentine and Malta said is heresy, and he agrees with them.
That is an extraordinary accusation to make. What are your reasons for saying this?
Remember, the Pope is only in infallible when he speaks "ex cathedra." When he gives his opinion, he is just a a regular human.
Thank you.
Pope Francis was orthodox in his diocese before becoming pope. In addition, sensible cardinals guided by the Holy Spirit, elected him. Give him the benefit of the diubt
Doubt
You spoke my thoughts about Pope Francis.. He worries me sometimes because his words spread confusion in our church. I want to love this pope more than I do because he is the pope, but....
I find it fascinating that so many people find fault with this Pope instead of looking at themselves first. The man is the first Pope from the Global South, the first one to not share a collective legacy of being the oppressor, but rather spending his life among the oppressed. As such, his teaching, praxis, and persona look more like Jesus (who also grew up among the oppressed) than any Pope in history. Like Jesus, he is more concerned with the health and wellbeing of the souls under his care than he is about the institutional power of the Roman Church.
The reason his statements fall so discordantly on the ears of the Global North is that he isn't burdened with generations of having to assuage the guilt and fears of the powerful to advance the interests of the Church. His statements on things like capitalism, ecology, social justice, etc. are 100% biblical and within the ancient traditions of the Church, they're just not what Catholics have been led to believe in the West; the reason for this is simple: we sold out to 'conservative' economic and social power structures, baptizing them without requiring they conform to Scripture, or Jesus, in order that they would extend power and patronage to the Church. So when a man who is Christ-like to the core takes the head seat, most of the religion loses their mind (ironically, in almost the exact same way as the Pharisees, et al did in Jesus' day).
In a very real sense, Pope Francis is the most qualified for the title of "Vicar of Christ", precisely because of the controversy he stirs, which stems not from a desire to cause controversy, but from a genuine calling to fulfill Christ's charge to St. Peter: If you love me, feed my sheep. He's feeding his sheep, including the Church, deep medicine: the kind that stirs controversy the same way a violent cough purges mucous, or the a fever fights a virus. The Church has been deeply sick for generations, and instead of keeping that sickness going, he's trying to be a healer.
Francis is an Argentine. He grew top under Peron and his whole settle of governing asa bishop and as pope is Peronist. Peron came in as a man of the right, but he adopted leftist policies as it suited him and his celebrity wife. Francis’ social and economic view reflect his peronism.
You are a voice of reason in a sea of Pharisees. Thank you!
Mathew, I have never read such emotional tosh. Get a grip. We have a very bad pope. Wake up.
Agree!
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Great points Brian! Love this!
I am late to this conversation. But I am really struggling right now with Church hierarchy. I came into the Church in the early 90s. I have loved the past 2 popes. And I wanted to love Francis.....but I find some aspects of him; disturbing. I need to pray. Brian , God bless you and your family!!
You don't have to agree with the mere opinions of the Pope if you are basing your disagreement in previous Church teaching. This Pope will eventually die and we have to pray that the next one will be faithful to the Holy Tradition and Scriptures.
This wouldn't be the first time that we have a Pope that is misleading it's flock (check the story of Pope Honorius).
Remember that if you don't pray your daily rosary you are not part of the solution. God bless you!
This video is cognitive dissonance in action.
Of course that demand of him absolute clarity is unrealistic, but the duty of our shepherd is to clarify not to confuse the flock. So, taking into account that he'll never be Cristal clear in all of his announcements and at the same time his duty as Vicar of Christ we conclude that he has to be more careful with the language and of course pay attention to the messenger and it's intentions. At the end of the day, of course there is space to disagree of the Pope, we just hate to have a legitimate reason to do so.
God bless you...
Not necessarily things he says but the things he does. like allowing idols in the church or allowing “ indigenous people”to have rituals in our church or his war on the Latin mass etc. those things kind of bother me.
Converted to RC in 2003. After 4 years of Francis, I'm done. Moving on to Orthodoxy.
Kim Bo I
I can sympathize.
Kim Bo Jajaja, well, prepared to be dissapointed. After you realize that the orthodox churches have the same problem, what will you do?
Search on UA-cam for a sermon on Sensus Fidelium called "Christ is the Point". Great sermon and it helps give perspective to Francis.
Try Byzantine
My disagreement with Bergoglio is not based on the conservative or liberal labels, nor on whether how a source portrays him. I examine his words and actions carefully, seek other opinions and judge for myself. The more I dig, the more clearly I see the can of worms.
Good video. The Catholic Church, with all its faults, is a grown up church. It's okay to disagree with our Pope. Remember he is just our first of all equals.
no he isn't...
You can disagree with his "prudential" comments, i.e., when he is discussing topics that are not part of the deposit of faith.
Yes he is: www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=533453&Pg=&Pgnu=&recnu=
The Holy Father is NOT a first among equals. That contradicts the very fundamental basis of the chair of Peter. The Papacy is the supreme office of The Church. If you don't accept that, you aren't Catholic.
www.catholic.com/tract/peters-primacy
www.catholicfaithandreason.org/papal-supremacy-in-the-bible-and-church-fathers.html
"The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter's successor, "is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful."402 "For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered." - Catechism of The Catholic Church
If you do not accept that the Vicar of Christ is the Supreme Pontiff over the Universal Church then you are not Catholic. It is Hersey to not accept that. Period. Dominus Vobiscum.
I believe Pope Francis was referring to the wanton waste of food we see on an industrial scale with Countries reaching quota's. Also by raising awareness of the sin of wasting food is surly a good thing.
I believe all great religions have a lot to say about wasting food and resources after all it is common sense.
God Bless all.
Do any of you recall when Pope Benedict resigned on February 11th 2013, lightning struck the Vatican twice at 5:55 PM? Some took this as a sign that the Eternal Father was not pleased with the resignation of Benedict XVI. 555 in numerology refers to Genesis 3:15 Mary and Jesus will crush the head of Satan Mary is the new Eve Jesus is the new Adam. Mary will crush the head of Satan because of her faith in love and God. Look at it this way 555 has three fives. It also adds up to 15. Again, Genesis 3:15. Let's examine those numbers again. If you change those numbers you get 513 or 5/13 or May 13th. Mary's first Apparition at Fatima. I want to you to recall when Jesus rose from the dead, Jesus told his disciples to cast their nets into the sea. In their nets they caught a hundred and fifty-three fish or 153 which is 3:15 in reverse. There are exactly 153 Angelic salutations or Hail Mary's in a 15 decade Rosary. The rosary actually looks like an old-fashioned Fisherman's Net with the balls floating on top of the water. The symbol of the Fish represents Christ and Christ told his disciples and apostles become Fishers of Men. If you look at the Rosary it is a circle with the crucifix on the end. Mary always leads us back to Jesus. Now if you count the number of days between May 13th and October 13th you get a hundred and fifty three days. I do not believe this is a coincidence. The footnote in Amoris Laetitia that's giving us the most problems is footnote 351 which is the opposite of 153. We know that the final are divisive battle between Lucifer and Our Lady will be over marriage and the family. That is exactly what is happening today. We also know that the dogma of Faith would always be preserved in Portugal which would mean the Dogma Faith would that be preserved elsewhere. I believe that Dogma faith is transubstantiation. Pope Francis is trying to open up communion to those in irregular Unions, which would change the Intent of those who could receive communion. In order to have a valid consecration you have to have proper matter: unleavened bread and Wine. Form: this is my body this is my blood. The exact verbiage that Jesus used at the Last Supper must be proclaimed at the SACRIFICE at the MASS. Intention: The Church's intention must Mass Christ's intention is to give communion to those in the state of grace. Francis is trying to change the church's intention, which would invalidate the Eucharist. We know from Sister Lucy is memoirs at the true Mass would be suppressed. Francis is trying to promote sacrilege deliberately by allowing those in irregular Unions to receive the Eucharist. This is all under a guise of Mercy. It is even in scripture he who drinks the body of Our Lord unworthily, eats and drinks himself to condemnation. The Book of Daniel also speaks of the continuing sacrifice being taken away from the prince. The continuing sacrifice is the Mass the Prince is Jesus Christ. It is also in the catechism of the Catholic Church (675 & 677 ) that the church will go through a great trial. Many people will be deceived and the deception will shake the faith of many believers. The church will also walk the road to Calvary and die and resurrect, like Jesus did. Everything that I discussed seems to be pointing that we are living in the last days, like Our Lady of Fatima in Our Lady of Akita predicted. Our Lady of Fatima is a woman clothed with the sun in the Book of Revelation when she perform the miracle of the Sun at Fatima on October 13th. Our Lady of La Salette warned that Rome would lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist. Our Lady of Akita warned that apostasy would begin at the top. she wanted it would be Cardinal against Cardinal Bishop against bishop and that is what we're seeing today. Cardinal Burke issue the Dubia with 3 other Cardinals and Pope Francis ignored it. We are in serious Danger. Satan wants to claim as many Souls as possible and he is using the clergy and deception to do so. God help us pray the rosary to defeat heresy. one other thing the Saint Michael prayer was composed on October 13th 1884 by Pope Leo XIII. The pope heard Jesus and Satan arguing by the Tabernacle. Satan told Jesus he could destroy the church if he had the time and Power and the influence of the clergy to do his bidding. Jesus gave him the time and the power to do so. It is like a giant jigsaw puzzle and all the pieces are coming into place. It is time to wake up! Too many people are sleeping or ignorant other Catholic faith. Many priests are under diabolical disorientation as described by Sister Lucia in her memoirs. It is up to us to save our own Souls. We need to wake others up as well. I'm sorry if there are spelling and grammatical errors in this response. I used Google dictation to reply to this post.Read more Show less
What a load of crap.!!!!!!!!did you think this up by yoursel or you had help from Satan?
catholics4unity That is a misinterpretation of Genesis 3:15. The Catholic bible goes so far as to say the serpent will bruise HER heel. The proper interpretation says the serpent will bruise HIS heel meaning Jesus. Jesus and Mary are not a tag team. There is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.
Andy Maynard The Original Latin Vulgate or Dewey Rheims version gives this feminine her heel. It would be her seed Jesus Christ and Her spiritual children will crush the head of Satan. We have statues of Our Lady of Grace with a serpent under her heel. We have the image of Our Lady Of The Miraculous Medal with the serpent under her heel. We have the life of the Blessed Virgin Mary written by Sister Mary Agreta. She wrote the City of God which is the life of the Blessed Virgin Mary. So newer versions are trying to distract from the role of Mary. God is using her again to usher in the second coming of Christ as he did the first coming. This also fits her promise that one day through the Rosary in the scapular she will save the world.
Martin Francis perhaps by dissuading people from believing what I wrote you are doing the work of Satan. Lucifer hates the Blessed Virgin Mary because he knows that she will crush his head. See the response I wrote below.
catholics4unity;
Great post.You are right.I like the way you described the rosary circling back to the cross to Jesus and the rosary described as a fisherman's net balls floating on top of the water brilliant.I never heard of that description before.Very good.
The miracle of the 153 fish caught is interesting.The miracle was not how many fish caught but that the net never ripped apart signifying the unity of the catholic church.Another point you made was the first apparition at Fatima May 13th to Oct 13th 153 days wow!
It is difficult to become a Catholic in the midst of this big storm, but 'storms' are our thing as Catholics since Christ. Times of apostasy and betrayal of which we were clearly warned by Christ himself and more recently by Our Blessed Mother. But, to be honest, being a Catholic Christian has never been an easy and comfortable task. We must remember that just in the US from its inception as a nation there was continual, often violent, harassment of Catholics by the many Protestant denominations.
I agree totally with you. Pope Benedict was a great theologian but because he was a conservative, he has been often demonized by the press, which has a strong ideological "liberal" bias (and for this reason has now a serious problem of credibility). Pope Francis is a media pope. His main concern is to please the press. Of course, he is not a bad man but he wants to be seen as a "modern" pope, a pope of our time. The danger is that to want too much to be "in", you run the risk of moving away from the traditional message of the Church that has made its strength. When the Church began to move away from its tradition, with the Vatican II, the consequences have been serious. For instance, before Vatican II, the Church had no problem with vocations. After Vatican II, the number of vocations fell dramatically as Rodney Stark (the great American sociologist of religions) points out. Why? Stark asserts (I hope not to betray his explanation that I summarize here from memory) that there is a deep psychological and "rational" reason for that. Christianity is a demanding religion and this exigency is also the condition of salvation, of an eternal joy. If this exigency is weakened, we no longer see why it is important to stay Christian and behave accordingly to get such a reward since the difference between Christianity and the "liberal way" is blurred or no longer exists!
P Belgazo oh please, The Vatican II is one of the best things that have happened to the church.
Ie agree with the assesment of the man who says he is a dictator pope. He is a maverick. pope, Who is doing things unprecedented in church history.
I agree. Vatican ll is wonderful. Anyone who opposes it is not accepting the will of God.
Vatican II is in need of clarification without any doubt. In particular when people like you say it is wonderful. What in particular in the Vatican II documents is wonderful?
Pope Francis is a true Christian Catholic sent by God to our faith. Why are we possessing the spirit of the Pharisees ...?
Why are we disagreeing what Pope Francis is telling us...?
This things were never seen in the Church! Now, everyone wants to talk without any knowledge.
Be careful people, The best way to sow a bad seed is through a good heart speech. We are here to love each other NOT TO ATTACK EACH OTHER.
May God free us from criticizing his chosen one and may God's grace reach all sinners.
Luke 5, 32
"I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners and need to repent.”
1 John 4
1 My dear friends, not every spirit is to be trusted, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets are at large in the world.
2 This is the proof of the spirit of God: any spirit which acknowledges Jesus Christ, come in human nature, is from God,
3 and no spirit which fails to acknowledge Jesus is from God; it is the spirit of Antichrist, whose coming you have heard of; he is already at large in the world.
4 Children, you are from God and have overcome them, because he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
5 They are from the world, and therefore the world inspires what they say, and listens to them.
6 We are from God; whoever recognises God listens to us; anyone who is not from God refuses to listen to us. This is how we can distinguish the spirit of truth from the spirit of falsehood.
7 My dear friends, let us love one another, since love is from God and everyone who loves is a child of God and knows God.
8 Whoever fails to love does not know God, because God is love.
9 This is the revelation of God's love for us, that God sent his only Son into the world that we might have life through him.
10 Love consists in this: it is not we who loved God, but God loved us and sent his Son to expiate our sins.
11 My dear friends, if God loved us so much, we too should love one another.
AMEN, AMEN,AMEN
Let's pray for our pope Francis and our church🙏 very humble and caring🙏
Apparently the pope said “lead me not into temptation” should be taken out of the Lord’s Prayer. I disagree. Why? Because Christ was led into the wilderness specifically to be tempted.
Christianity background derived LOGOS. Logic is missing when he speaks, his ambiguity is lack of reason unfortunately.
I was so nervous when I saw the title for this video, but Yes!! Once I watched I'm so glad you made this! The trend of disagreeing with the pope and calling him unorthodox frustrates me all the time. Well done
Ptony, maybe you would do well to consider why the faithful are so upset, shocked and disgusted with the worst pope we have ever had. Do some basic research and maybe you will become as frustrated as the rest of us.
My bad I meant to say fraternal Priestly Society of st. Peter
On the subject of Father... do you feel this is ambiguous or is Christ who is the truth and not an inerpretaion of it mean exactly that....
Do you not think it extremely important to know and be like the Berean who searched scripture themselves to fund out if what they heard from mere men were true?
Watch the videos of Father Josiah Trenham of St. Andrews Orthodox Church in Riverside, Calif, if you want to have clarity between the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches.
Romans (8:26-27) Saint Paul states: In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.
A very good point. There are even many born Catholics who seems to be close minded and make their own stand against the Pope and the Catholic Church, especially Pope Francis. Thank you and God bless!
Wow! Brilliant! Thanks for your time in putting together this thoughtful and intelligent reflection.
Boy what a joy to find your channel!
On disagreeing, I don’t think it’s only about holding onto the overwhelming majority of things, but about our common obedience we have to the Magisterium of which he is custodian.
WE ARE LIVING IN THE APOCALYPTIC TIME.
The only way to tell if a pope is trustworthy or not is to look at who his friends are. Pope Francis makes it a point to surround himself with many progressive minded clergy.
It’s good to realize that only God is without sin or error and should Our Pope be perfect? No a good moral earnest Catholic chosen by His Brethren and the Lord? Yes of course- Blind Faith is not okay when we are to discern all! Discussion and Questioning are necessary for growth! The only Judgement I need to fear is that of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
I would NEVER be upset at someone telling me that my actions could harm others. Not eating animals, going No-waste, being frugal, not polluting, not supporting child labor... only christians can get upset when their leaders suggest they ACTUALLY ACT WITH COMPASSION. ugh
I just know that Fr. Gabriel Bunge ( a famous Swiss Catholic theologian and hermit, who converted from Catholicism to the Orthodox Church) likes also Pope Benedict XVI much more than Pope Francis.
Didn't Jesus lack clarity? Were not His disciples always asking Him to explain things?
I'm getting Baptized on Easter and I don't Like Fracis at all.
I'm not Catholic for him. Only for God.
The Church is one thing: Faithful to Jesus's teachings.
Whatever goes against what the Catechism teaches _is_ wrong, no matter who says it: *even the pope.*
Currently, the pope is highly misleading people, and what he says on some subjects may lead some to heresy.
This is why we will ALWAYS focus on what the Church always taught, because we sadly *know* what goes on in the Vatican right now.
Disclaimer: I’m Orthodox not Catholic.
I found this to be an awesome take. I don’t involve myself much with internal Catholic disputes, particularly around Pope Francis, but when I did I found myself taken in by all the critique of Francis as a liberal, progressive, heretic, or whatever. He may or may not be one of those pejoratives, but people definitively tear into his statements too much. It’s too easy to believe the most uncharitable interpretation.
Pope Francis is also Argentinian, not an eastern European
It "doesn't fit into these dichotomies"? So there is no "correct" and "incorrect" Catholicism?
Interesting and well articulated points. Unfortunately, I have so many problems with these statements that they are too exhausting to get into.
You should be disagreeing with the Pope, Brian. There are some statements he has made that are in their entirety that can be watched and listened to; Such as when he told the little boy who had an atheist father that he was in heaven and told the boy to pray to him. Catholic or not, this man has said things not only against Christianity but agains Catholicism also.
Brian, is being "Catholic" more important than describing about yourself as a "Christian"?
I don't think when the pope was talking about wasting food he was referring to your family's attempts at food management.
First video I've watched by you, thank you. I'm going to subscribe and come back when I have time. But regarding your comparison between Christ and Pope Francis, let's go with that, and here's the thing. When you get down to what Christ meant, it was good. For much of what Francis says, it is not good. Whether Francis knows it or intends it as such is another question, and maybe only God knows. But Francis, in far too much of what he says, unfortunately, is reckless and undeniably embedded with leftist politics. As followers of Christ, we must do the work necessary to remain in the will and truth of God. Vigilant! particularly in these times against political influence from any direction. Francis is all-to-happy in careless speech and deed. Not to worry, God's Church will prevail.
Anyone questioning Benedict XVI should read his books. Marvelous. Warm. He speaks about Jesus personally.
His life is like "Grapes are sour "
Pope Francis is the best advertisement for the Lutheran church.
Want to know about Jesus Christ and Christianity it's in the Biblical New Testament and by the influence of the Holy Spirit.
I love the way you explained this critical topic.
Thank you so much for enlighting me.
I look at Pope Francis' acts and behaviors. His acts and behaviors are suspect.
Of all the things you have a problem with Pope Francis, you chose an example that actually puts him well within ascetic Patristic beliefs and criticisms of the common people, especially St. Basil the Great and St. John Chrysostom. If you read these, you will feel personally uncomfortable with yourself, as I do with myself in the luxury of my household, and rightfully so! So I think you need to really test yourself and maybe that’s not something, even if out of context, that should trouble you of Pope Francis. There are other things he said that I find troubling, and quite at odds with Pope Benedict, who is much more exemplary in my opinion.
I enthusiastically support this pope's efforts to remind the spoiled Western world--and yes, Brian, that includes you and me--that we aren't though we could be doing more.
I had quite a few comments mostly responding to Jeff Fenske and a Mary Louise that I thought were very relevant and pointed out why we should be opposed to "pope" Francis and that he was destroying the Church. I spent a lot of time writing them and it seems to me the entire thread has been deleted! I think I made very valid points. Is this discussion being monitored to delete comments that show why your view is wrong?
It's okay Holdsworth you have the right to disagree with our Pope
You really got on the right track here. Don't let the media influence how you understand the Pope, they don't understand the Church or want to. Pope Francis is orthodox and faithful to the Magisterium though he has his shortcomings. He probably talks more than he should, but I should not be heard judging anyone for that. We got used to the precision of Ratzinger, but I think that Bergoglio may reach many people who his predecessors may not have.
@Brian Holdsworth I don't believe that the statement was directed towards unintentional mismanagement of resources, but of careless disregard of America's abundance. Have you ever worked at a restaurant, and seen how many TONS of food are in the trash bin annually?
2 years later after the pagan ritual and all his globalist position ( theology of the liberation) we now know who he is...