"Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope. I know very well that many defend themselves by boasting: “They are so corrupt, and work all manner of evil!” But God has commanded that, even if the priests, the pastors, and Christ-on-earth were incarnate devils, we be obedient and subject to them, not for their sakes, but for the sake of God, and out of obedience to Him." --St. Catherine of Siena [extract from the Florentine letters]
@@collectiveconsciousness5314 Yes they do. They've always relied on secular principalities to define their ecclesiastical authority and jurisdiction, which is far worse. At least Jesus appointed Peter. First the Byzantine emperor, then the Czars, then anyone that the church's could cozy up to. They even tried to do so with the Ottomans and the communists.
Brian Holdsworth But... what changes to their doctrine have they _actually_ made as a result? What heretic sects have sprung up from them? And it seems more that they have endured greater persecution from all those groups, particularly the latter two. They also have not done anything as despicable as pandering to *the World’s Foremost Problem* (who are also the communists BTW), who brought the RCC to its knees with Vatican II.
@@collectiveconsciousness5314 They haven't made changes to doctrine because they have no official doctrine and no mechanism to even discuss doctrine. They have no emperor to call councils which is why secular authority was never Our Lord's idea for the Church and why it has failed the East. It's no triumph to say that they haven't changed for a thousand years if that lack of change is due to paralysis.
Maybe the translation is not accurate, cause she would be implying basically that if the antichrist would become pope we must accept it. How would we be faithful followers of Jesus if we do nothing when false prophets, heretics and the corrupt enter the priesthood?
This guy is good. Lol . Both way, I don't watch all the videos, which I should, as much as I dislike this communist pope, I have to agree with him in some way. I watch church militant alot so its nice to watch here too
@@tomchipego CM has no choice but to call the pope on his BS that goes against the traditional true faith they aren't just Catholics criticizing, they have the unloved role of journalism for the faith why I too watch them.
@@shannonnezul4903 I agree, I was born in 65, so all I know is the new mass, but I was born in a family of great faith and I hear it in CM. I agree with their stance and support them. Its very interesting because I live in the Scranton diocese, which correctly CM has been banging on "bambi".its well known that the Scranton diocese has been a haven for homosexuals and pedophiles. You listen to this channel and you think, yes I can agree with that, but then you hear the St Patricks sermon this past weekend supporting blm, its well known to be an atheist communist front, and then you have the sermon in new England saying Catholics should support pro choice. Its nice to listen to this channel and think, yes this is where we should be, but its not realistic. Our friend here looks at things like a new born child, all new and shinny. But we are at a cultural and spiritual war. There have been anti popes before and there are anti bishops and priests now. We have to decide where we want to be. Maybe eventually after a break we will be a smaller more traditional Catholic church and that where I will be. Our friend here is standing in the middle of the road, when you stand in the middle you will get squashed. You pull 1 quote over 2000 years to support the pope, I'm sure we can pull 2000 quotes to support the defense of the faith against bad spiritual leaders
"The thing about temptation is that it's so easy to rationalise and justify as if you're doing something in the service of the greater good." ... yep, that hits home.
Yeah, kind of like cowardice masquerading as piety. When the rapists comes into your house and attacks you beloved wife, you don't sit idly by. You defend her and the family against the assailant.
I'm anticipating a few replies to some points I made so I'm going to respond here in anticipation of them. Regarding St. Paul and St. Peter, I didn't quite emphasize what I meant to in the way it came out (the downside of verbal communication vs. written). I understand that in St. Paul's account, he rebuked St. Peter publicly. The point I was trying to emphasize was that he did it personally. He had a personal relationship with Peter and was in a position to give that feedback directly. The same is true with St. Catherine of Sienna. This example stands in contrast to those who would publish public criticisms directed to the public (rather than the person being criticized) and not from a position of authority or personal relationship with the one criticized. I also think I overstated the fact that the laity/children don't have the right to offer critical feedback. They do, but just not in an indiscriminate way. Canon law says that the faithful have the right to share their thoughts and opinions with their pastors and to the rest of the faithful. That, to me, would be analogous to the family meeting. We discuss it among ourselves, but not in a way that is broadcast to the whole world. It's also important to note that it is supposed to be done in a way that is mindful of their dignity and with reverence.
@@thomasvonaquin2381 I'm afraid that would be a waste of time. People like Marshall or Michael Voris built their base and make their money by exploiting gossip and scandal, which is what Brian is very classily criticizing here. There's a virtually insurmountable class gap between those two.
To love is also to “will the good of the other” and “contains elements of struggle” (St. Pope John Paul II); so, sometimes love requires we speak out against error that our Pope may be engaged in ... but we must do this with charity, forgiveness, and hope.
Indeed. The last three parts can be the most challenging at times. Like St. Paul said, ""If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal. And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge, if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing. (1 Cor. 13:1-2)" Have all faith and preach all Truth, but no love = "a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal." Phew, that can be a tough one to master.
Thank you for this. I often see people mentioning St Katherine of Sienna to justify criticizing the Pope. But if you read her letters, you can see just how deferential, charitable and obedient she was. She knew her place, and it wasnt above the Pope. And thats a woman who had frequent ecstasies and received knowledge directly from Our Lord. We can never forget charity when criticizing anyone, let alone the leader of our Church.
Pray for Pope Francis - but if the father is abusing The Mother in this case the Church you need to step in as a family and protect her. Let us carefully watch what happens this Thursday May 6th through May 8th 2021, when the Pope will be in discussion with many pro -abortionists, communists and eugenicists. Also keep in mind when Pope Francis placed on the alter of St Peter the image of Pache Mama, a Amazonian deity known for destruction and he also made coins of her to sell. I am very concerned where the world is going at this time, so I pray the rosary every day for the USA and the world because of Globalism and the One World Order. I have in my 70 years on this earth never seen it so bad. This Pope also took 2 billion dollars from Communist China who is killing their Christians and other people of faith - to stand by and say nothing is not to protect the innocent from destruction and is an act of cowardice!
From the Catechism: Fidei Depositum: “Guarding the deposit of faith is the mission which the Lord has entrusted to his Church and which she fulfills in every age”. The Pachamama incident occurred in his presence (the Pope’s) so being silent to this event is to take part, we must defend the deposit of faith!!
Depends what you mean by deposit of Faith ? Is it your Faith or The Churchs Faith? You better know your history and I mean just not what You focus on but the entirety ? The Church has 2000yrs of history ! During the plague for example in the 13 century people used to receive communion Once a year and because of the plague they were denied this ! They had to look as the Host was elevated for all to see without partaking in it ...St Thomas of Aquinas came 1500 yrs after the first Christians. ...
When Jesus gave the apostles power to bind and loose he knew what he was doing. If you think the Church he built on the apostles, with all authority from the Father, can fail… you have already left the building. Enjoy your life as a Protestant.
I agree with you. Early in my childhood my Great-grandmother told me to pray for a parish priest I didn’t like. I have expanded upon that teaching. As a Religious Brother I prayed for my Superiors. As a priest, I prayed for my Bishops and Provincial Superiors. And since last year I have been praying a daily decade of the rosary for our Holy Father Francis.
"The Church is like Noah's ark that was full of both clean and unclean animals. It must have had an unholy smell, and yet it was carrying eight persons to salvation.” - Archbishop Fulton Sheen
Does this "criticism" include disagreement and pointing out issues that are problematic? Pachamama would be a good recent example. If we were all to stay silent on the Pachamama issue last year, the consequences of that would create more issues. Non-Catholics and new converts would think that it's ok to bow down to fertility statue as no Catholic was seen to disagree with it. So if there is a difference, then I think you should've addressed that and given examples of justified criticism/disagreement and schismatic criticism, otherwise it looks like you condemn all types of criticism which is quite vague and undefined, and like the example I gave earlier, could potentially cause worse issues down the line.
I don't think it does. But the key is not to criticize the man. As in the examples of pachamama or the Pope's condemning of the death penalty.... what someone like Brian Holdsworth or Taylor Marshall should do (if they disagree with the Pope) is to put out their own content in favor of the death penalty. I think the point of Brian's video is to say..... Rather than just teaching what they believe is true and putting out a pro death penalty argument, people like Taylor Marshall will just do a show about what an ignorant heretical moron the pope is. And that doesn't help anyone. What Taylor Marshall should do in that case, is put out a video in favor of the death penalty. That should be his response and his way of correcting errors that are being put out. Instead, he just does a show about what an evil infiltrator Francis is. That's why Taylor Marshall is essentially a gossip show, and Brian Holdsworth is not. Holdsworth is interested in discussions about issues and Marshall is interested in condemning Pope Francis.
@@zwijac i don't like the content of Taylor Marshall, nor is Michael Voris. They are essentially anti catholic and seek to deny that God doesn't know what He is doing.
Brian, this is why you have the best Catholic channel on the internet. Other UA-camrs who used to be in it to teach and discuss the faith, are now nothing more than Catholic gossip shows. You my friend are nothing like that, and it's a pleasure to watch your videos.
Thank you so much Brian. One of the reasons I tune in to your channel is precisely that you don't criticise the holy father. I was advised to turn every critical thought into a prayer for the person I found fault with. It has helped me a lot. Charity, above all charity, in our thoughts and words.
Dear Brian, I admire your work tremendously and particularly appreciate the clarity with which you express your thoughts. I often forward your videos because I find them very insightful and want to share your wisdom. My question for you which I do not believe has been addressed is that there are examples of cardinals and others in the Church who have gone directly to the pope, as you suggest, to request clarification of unclear statements he has made publicly (on a plane, via an exhortation or in an encyclical) which are causing first confusion and then division within the Church. The dubia is a prime example. To what avail? With no response from the pope, confusion and division only grow. As it doesn’t appear that the current pontiff responds to criticism when brought to him directly, then what? Anything beyond prayer, penance and almsgiving? Doesn’t the laity have a moral obligation to speak up to say no, it is not okay for a Catholic to bow to an image of a pagan goddess, for example? I greatly appreciate the work of the Taylor Marshall and Michael Voris, and while I understand the critique of tone and some characterizations, I admire and am grateful for their dedication and courage in speaking out. The fact is that Michael Voris was reporting on the horrific abuses going on in the church long before anyone else. And Taylor Marshall helped clear the confusion in my mind about many, many things happening in the church, even at a local level. He helped connect dots and made the situation intelligible. I can deal with the ‘tone’ if it means an end is put to harm done to so many, on so many levels. I can deal with the at times harsh characterizations because they are exposing the filth in the church. I tend to think that Michael Voris, for example, will be forgiven his missteps, because he “has loved much.” Love in the real and difficult sense, in Aquinas’ ‘willing the good of the other’ sense. One last point, Brian, and that is this: your comments seem to attribute a particular motivation to those who speak out in a critical fashion, that is, that they are motivated by a desire to increase clicks, subscriptions and even for financial gain. I would counsel greater discretion as only God can read hearts. They may in fact be answering a call from our our Heavenly Father to help our Mother clean house.
My thoughts exactly about some of the more direct commentators that sometimes can be less than charitable in tone, but I would never want them to be shut down because the faithful have a right to the truth.
I'm agree with you Karen. I'm not from USA but since l came to know about Voris and Taylor's videos l keep watching their comments and found out what is going on in the Church of Christ and is very heart breaking. God have mercy on us.
@Karen Bonvecchio Well said. Yes, Michael Voris does come off as a little too assertive (no one is perfect), I guess one can say, but Church Militant does a good job at exposing the evils within our very own Church, which is sad to know they exist. However, I have noticed Michael Voris has a strong tone only in regard to errors, sins, and other evils, whether they be within the Church or else where. Otherwise, he is a very loving person. He's a tough love kind-of guy. :)
I have been watching your videos for 2 days now. I pay attention to Catholic theology but have never heard these points before. They are articulated perfectly. I am astounded that your channel does not have millions of subscribers. Fantastic job!
I agree that we must be careful when we criticize the hierarchy, but we must call a spade a spade. Pope Francis has stepped in it many times. He has caused a lot of confusion and division with his words and actions. He spends too much time worrying about politics instead of the salvation of souls. I pray for our pope every day and I love our church even though she is truly hurting now. Prayer and penance are the keys to putting things back on track. We must let God be in charge and trust in His timing. Keep up the good work, Brian. You always show tact, charity, and great insight.
The Pope hasnt stepped in anything its ALWAYS the media lying about him or calling him left wing or some other such nonsense. His soul focus is the salvation of souls and we should all pray for his intentions daily
Yusef Yandron Wow you must have blinders on. I know the media is trash, but come on. Video evidence and his own documents cannot be manipulated by news agencies spinning what he said. Take your blinders off.
If you question his statements and actions, then instead of criticising, ask yourself, prayerfully and charitably, if the problem could lie with the institution itself.
@@physiocrat7143 it was warned and forerold beforehand, that Pope Benedict would be forced to step down. In his stead would be (not validly) elected the false prophet, who will usher in the New World Order. I mean we are seeing it rn. Bill Gates, Jefrey Sax and how they are called use bergoglio as a mascot for their "Great Reset". We need to pray for Pope Benedict. God bless.
“We wrestle not against flesh and blood (Pope, any other person) but against powers and principalities (satan and his minions of idolatry, corruption, perversion, etc. throughout the world). We can’t judge people and their motives but we can note behavior, especially our own, as we, by God’s Grace, try to walk the walk. Thanks Brian...always insightful.
Thanks for a very thoughtful video. I agree with you. I remember reading about a woman who encountered and spoke with Jesus during her near-death experience. She had not been living a moral life and would regularly complain about the pope, bishops, and priests. Jesus asked her, “how often did you pray for them?”. He let her know that her speaking ill of them was unloving and sinful, and that she would be held accountable for that and for not praying for them. That really had a profound impact on me. I don’t think I’ll ever forget it.
It is always an act of love to pray for others. It also requires no courage and costs almost nothing. It can also be an act of love (and often costs more and takes more courage) to call someone out when they sin. It is an even greater act of love when the person in error is leading others to sin (see verse referencing it being better to have a millstone around the neck). I appreciate very much the times people have called me out for errors in my thinking. Although my pride was offended at the time, their comments cracked that pride, ever so slightly. That’s all that was needed for God’s truth to flood in.
I think not praying for errant clergy is a sin of omission, that is, not doing the good we could have done, but calling out publicly propagated error by a pope cannot be a sin if it is done charitably.
This is one of many reasons we love your content, Brian. Thank your for exemplifying the Gospel. Thank you for not capitalizing on the scandal category. Let us justly and lovingly correct our brothers and sisters but not turn it into what some have in doing it wrongly and relentlessly.
It's part of his function to so attend the affairs of state, a state which the church maintains for the benefit is mankind. Francis is almost on a daily basis granting us his guidance via social media and is reported on daily.
Children do not have the right to offer correction to their parents? That's a fairly alien concept. If my father were beating my mother not only would I offer correction I would actively oppose him. If my Pope is trying to bring Idols into the Church and lay waste to the Faith I will do the same and for very similar reasons.
Dismayed Trinket - Absolutely, and when he tells us we have a duty to obey the UN, I know he is a Marxist plant into our Beloved Church. ANY antichrist, even in the guise of a Pope, needs to be challenged (1 John 2:18)
What idols is the Pope trying to bring into the Church? How is he trying to lay waste to the Faith? Give me specific examples please...don't tell me to do my research, because I have done it quite thoroughly.
@@JodianWarrior Look up Pachamama. I'm an outsider myself, as yet, but I have found the whole incident, as presented, rather disturbing. Not that that's going to hinder my faith or my eagerness to start RCIA next month. I have faith that whatever's the case, God is going to deal with it.
@@donm-tv8cm That is perhaps the most problematic and scandalous event in Pope Francis's papacy. However, given what the Pope has said in numerous other contexts, I think it's clear that it was not an act of idolatry on the part of the Pope. We don't know his interior attitude towards what happened. I suspect he was not involved with organizing the pachamama ceremony or whatever you want to call it, and that he was presented with a deceptive explanation of what the pachamamas actually were. Pope Francis takes a very different approach than past popes have, so his silence doesn't necessarily mean approval. I think the incident was wrong, no matter how you frame it, but I don't think it justifies calling Francis an idolater, heretic, or apostate, as many have done. Keep in mind that Pope Francis doesn't use the Internet, so he was probably oblivious to the level of scandal it caused.
"...Padre Pio. He never retaliated against the archbishop, nor even criticized him. In fact the angriest the famous mystical priest was seen to get was with a supporter - a Pio defender - who had attacked the archbishop. Although shattered, Pio was said to have submitted to the bishop’s attacks with what Father Agostino recalled as “holy resignation.” The same was true of Padre Pio’s spiritual director, Padre Benedetto Nardella, who uttered no complaint against the unfair sanctions. “God’s will be done,” Pio, a Capuchin monk, is quoted as saying. “The will of the authorities is the will of God.” Source: spiritdaily.org/blog/commentary/archives-padre-pio-and-obedience
Thank you Brian! I am so happy that you have spoken about this. I believe that if you do not agree with someone, you should pray for them. The Pope needs our prayers and our support. We may not agree with all he does but he is our Pope.
But there is a difference between saying something and criticizing out of your own pride. Many Catholics criticize the pope out of their own pride but look to justify it by saying that they are justs doing it for the church when its obvious that they are doing it for themselves.
"Enjoy the silence"- depeche mode Are we enjoying our silence yet? I feel like this is cope for cowardice. Is the little kid that said the emperor is naked a criminal for calling it how it is? And besides, how does someone like me criticise a PUBLIC FIGURE privately? Do I make an appointment? Do I slide in to his DM's? Do I just come over after sunday lunch? Enlighten me!
You don't need to criticize him. That's the point. It's not your place, it's the place of the bishops. Whether they do so or not is not your concern. Your concern is to live a good and holy Christian life and to pray for the pope, not to take him to task.
@@JodianWarrior What if the pope and all the bishops are corrupt, or if the pope and most bishops are bad apples, and the good bishops and priests and silenced, then what are we to do? Is being silent, and praying and fasting the only thing for us as laity to do?
@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 It depends what you mean. Because Jesus promised the Church would not fall. Rome will always be the guarantee of orthodoxy, at least in official pronouncements. Now, obviously there have been bad popes in the past and there have been times when most bishops were corrupt. This is why we distinguish between the office and the person. If a bishop is corrupt, you should still respect and obey him except when/if he commands something immoral (i.e. that goes against divine law). God will always work through our obedience, even if we disagree (for instance, I really don't like that bishops are forcing communion on the hand, but it's not against divine law, since that's how the Apostles and the early Christians received the Eucharist). However, canon law also says that lay people have a right to voice their objections, so we should continue to do so, in a respectful, charitable manner (by writing a polite letter, meeting in person if possible, etc.). So yes, we can do more than pray. But we also need to educate ourselves on what bishops can and can't do, and what the actual tradition of the Church is. I see a lot of people who seem to think of the tradition of the Church as being what happened in the last 500 years, and ignore the entire Patristic period. If something was widely permitted during the time of and by the Church Fathers, it can't be immoral. We can disagree with it (like communion on the hand, the sign of peace, Mass celebrated versus populum), but not on moral grounds.
Not every father is is a healthy member of the family and some fathers betray the idea of "father" completely. To become "healthy" the members must excise the wound in their member and expose the infection, not embrace it and cover it up. Then the whole can heal properly. Your ideas are expressed so well, thank you for making me think about things from new perspectives!
I am breaking my principles watching these videos - I like them before I even hear first sentence. We have had a share of bad popes. But, Christ chose disciples who were far from perfect - they were neither spiritually perfect, and sometimes they were downright dumb. But, our perfection is not what conditions the presence of Christ. However, lol, I am not so sure that Paul didn't criticise Peter publicly - I mean, he wrote (with quite a gusto) that he did that and to this days all christian comunities read about that 😀
And, Peter and Andrew did not answer back. Peter and Paul were in unity, they both tragically died in Rome. They are were still in unity with other disciples though they were far away from each other. The unity in Christ is the will of Christ, He prayed earnestly that we are ONE as Chris is ONE with the Father.
@Samy Nia We are the church. We are in it. We are in that ONE BODY. One of the strengths, the powers, of the Church is PRAYER. The question is also back to myself as a member, without closing my eyes to see around, and I wonder to myself if I often set a side a bit of the moment to PRAY for the church... what I do in every day life, as a member of ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH. The wisdom Holy Spirit slows me down to judge.
@Samy Nia I see. The main message I mean is that to KEEP IN UNITY. One of the strengths or powers of the Church is PRAYER. We are the church, the member of ONE BODY, the BODY OF CHRIST. I wonder, without closing my eyes to see around, to myself if I ever set aside a bit of the moment to have a bit prayer for each other, for the church, as ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC CHURCH. I wonder if I never did, or do anything against. I should both deeply LOOK OUT AND INTO MYSELF. BOTH MUST BE IMPROVED. The work of wisdom of the Holy Spirit makes us slow to judge. The power of prayer is real and really in mouth and heart of true, upright man. And it is true in the word of Cardinal Henry Newman that prayer is able to halt the power of natural law. LET US HAND IN HAND, IN OUR HEART WITH PRAYERS AND DEEDS TO STRENGTHEN EACH OTHER, AS THE MEMBER OF ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. GBU.
First of all, I'm very happy that BH has not gone down the path of constant criticism and scandal. That is why I'm still subscribed to this channel. I have watched a few videos of "Catholics" who have many videos criticizing and I would almost say, hating the Church, the Pope, bishops, cardinals etc etc... Those types of videos have never helped me to grow and love Catholicism more, quite the contrary. As viewers we are also tempted, tempted towards scandal, or to be part of a group that is in the right never questioning itself with easy answers and easy solutions, we are tempted into thinking that because we wrote a comment, we have actually acted out something etc... But at the end of the day, we must ask ourselves, does the content I watch help me grow in love for others, or on the contrary, do I grow in antagonism and hate for others? And I have come to the same conclusion as BH, those who constantly bash on the Catholic church and put out outrageous titles, are exactly like Luther, and creating a schism. Satan is the master of discorde. So thank you Brian for not going down the road of Catho bashing, and having the humility of recognizing that the easy and clickbait videos were a temptation. I encourage you do continue down the path your are already on, and help me, and many others learn and love even more our religion.
“But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews?” Galatians 2:14 St. Paul actually did correct St. Peter in front of everybody involved.
aside from your video today, gotta say thanks to you I discovered the Hallow app. i’ve been looking for a Catholic prayer app for so long and i feel like this is the app that i’ve been looking for! so i downloaded it from your link and subscribed to it. btw i’m not paid for saying this just in case!
Stupidity is having no discipline, when your tongue rules you, you are doomed and on the path to spiritual death as it offers no tangible result. It is spiritually edifying to pray. Many complain but offer no recourse. This is the sin of detraction, do it no more and I highly advise bringing this particular issue to the confessional. It is a dangerous road.
Saint Charbel Miracleworker Stupidity is the lack of a mind disciplined to discern truth from error. Buy yourself the Catechism of the Council of Trent and learn some mental discipline. (Not least because you do not seem to understand what the sin of detraction is.)
@@ransomcoates546 Lets play it out. How has gossiping, accusing and complaining helped your spiritual life? If you were smart you would pray, fast and shut up. The verbal diarrhoea all over social media and internet does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for your spiritual life and if some of that is the spreading of malicious lies, half truths and/ or "opinion" masquerading as truth then you are on a dangerous path - can't help people who want to self-destruct. Good luck to you.
Saint Charbel Miracleworker Identifying, for example, the Pope’s heretical religious indifferentism is is hardly ‘gossiping’. My last comment on the matter.
@@ransomcoates546 And who are you to decide/judge that it is indifferentism? Who are you to decide that Christ was wrong when He said the gates of Hell will not prevail.
I will not speak against the Lord's anointed head of our beloved Church. He was placed in this office by Divine inspiration & leading. Great video Brian, could not agree more w/ you!
Well, I'm not sure if it's a mortal sin to do so, but it's definitely a temptation that we give in to if we keep going on-and-on about it. It can become gossip, for sure, if we turn it into that. Sinful pride can definitely enter in if we are not careful.
@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 So true, we don't want to scandal our Catholic Faith any more than it is. The Church is incorruptible but the men inside are another story. We cannot gossip or publicly judge and condemn the pope, however, we also have to speak the truth. Francis has committed apostasy and needs prayers.
Peter himself viewed Paul as a fellow elder: Therefore, I exhort the elders among you, as your fellow elder and witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker also of the glory that is to be revealed, shepherd the flock of God among you, exercising oversight not under compulsion, but voluntarily, according to the will of God; and not for sordid gain, but with eagerness... 1 Peter 5:1 -2 As you can see, Peter does not view himself as “Holy Father” which is title that only our Heavenly Father can use.
When Michael Voris stood in front of the Vatican flag in a suit and told Pope Francis to resign for 'the good of his soul', that was pretty much it for me.
@@animgreat2719 I think it's okay to criticize the pope at times because he has his own views that many people might not share, but making a career out of just criticizing the pope and it being obvious that it's sensationalized for views and attention is where it crosses the line for me.
@@esetavea193 Yeah, your point of view is fine. Going out of your way to make your point of view the one Truth is where you'd start going off the rails. Church Militant and Taylor Marshall have crossed into this area and I don't know if they can ever come back from it. It almost feels like they're lying in wait to celebrate when Pope Francis finally dies.
@@abnd8025 One can damage its own soul, the Church and become an obstacle for others to convert to the only Church Christ founded not necesarily by making a carreer out of criticizing Pope, One can Sin way before reaching that extreme or any other. We most be cautious, I've seen people doing this while being far from the case you make.
I really like your title music. I think I should shift my music taste a bit more in this direction. Nothing against modern worship musics - but this one is musically better. And music IS important.
Good Points here. Several other Podcasters are looking ambitiously to grow, and have found that Criticism Sells, but at the end of it all, the Criticizers don't offer anything constructive, they're really not about trying to offer help, they just want to grow their followers, that is becoming more obvious.
I disagree. Truth is more important than unity. Unity in lies and silence is a false unity that we shouldn't pursue nor protect. Truth must be spoken and heard. It's up to the pope to react if he doesn't like the discontent.
Ok I understand. But seriously why did the pope wear the international symbol for pedophile. Not just him many bishops have been seen wearing it. Just asking.
Often times symbols have multiple usecases, similar to how the nazi's hijacked the Swastika. More likely than not it either has another meaning as well, or the person who stitched his robe simply didn't know that the symbol is also used by nambla. Obviously if the pope had bad intentions, he wouldn't openly wear a symbol like that.
@@Buceesfanmaarten You know maybe I can accept that if it was just that. But the fact that he choose the wear the boy lover symbol for World Youth Day just seems too suspicious.
I think the Pope has someone that chooses the garments he wears for him. Similar to how many celebrities have their own personal stylists (which is not to say the Pope is a celebrity). I have not seen Bishops wearing that symbol, but if it is true then it is worrying.
I usually agree with you Brian, but on this we have to remember that fraternal correction is acceptable and required out of charity. St. Paul did it for St. Peter...and thats good enough for me.
The temptation of scandal, as a early confused person I need guidance to keep away from it. So I need positive things I can do, I am praying for our Pope, I know he needs prayer very badly.
Following the example of Our Lord and few of his saints. I would say we must criticize the Pope if he openly teach heresy or do a sacrilegious or blasphemous act like Pope John Paul II kissing the quran. Many scholars of the Church agree that Christians are obliged to shout here is the wolf, if the Pope or any cleric teach heresy. But we must not criticize them if they do something immortal. In this case, we must pray for that person to convert. However if that person is dangerous to the society or community, than we must judge and condemn that person, for the sake of our neighbour. A good example is Cardinal Mccarrick.
Sorry, my child. JP II kissing the koran was not a big deal. It was not sacrilgious nor was it blasphemous. At most, it was his intention to show respect for his visitors, and such a gesture might be taken wrong. But the people that make a huge deal about this are pretty bad Catholics. Mostly, they are trying to inflate this incident because they are mad that JP II excommunicated their cult leader, Lefebvre. So spreading lies about JP II is how they get back at him for that. Yes, Cardinal McCarrick was an awfully bad person.
Tom thx The actions of JPII mentioned here were most definitely blasphemous. He treated a vile book such as the Koran with the same gesture of reverence we treat the Holy Bible. And now you who were all against judging a minute ago are calling others bad Catholics for condemning this.
Tom thx Now you make me have to ask. Was Pope Francis merely showing respect to indigenous Amazonian people or was he worshiping pagan idols? Showing respect to false teaching and idolatry is not how to convert people. Rather, it reinforces their present sinful state.
@@aretrograde7745 Right! Putting up Christmas trees, what a horrible pagan ritual that promotes a sinful state. Or how about the St John fires, that are lit every year in a village near where I live, which was a pagan ritual celebrating the end of harvest? Or how about Our Lady of Guadalupe, how could she use pagan symbols? Showing respect to another human being, is not only the first step of conversion but also profoundly Catholic. And as the old saying goes, you don't catch flies with vinegar, but with honey.
I just wanna add that the child does have the right to appeal to their parents about something that is hurting them, the same way anyone can appeal to any authority figure.
Galatians 1:8-9 [8]But even if we ourselves or an angel from heaven preaches to you a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let God's curse be on him. [9]I repeat again what we declared before: anyone who preaches to you a gospel other than the one you were first given is to be under God's curse.
I totally understand what you are saying and do agree to a point. What are we supposed to do though if we see things that confus us? If we don't understand why something is happening or a statement that doesn't quite sit right? If something is obvioius to us and others that it is not quite right or understnadable * at least from what we can see... what are we supposed to do?
1) Realize that often we read about this stuff in the papers and the internet, and that we don't have all the information. Often things are presented in a one sided manner on the internet, so it would be rash to come to any conclusion until we have studied the subject for a long time. 2) Many theological matters are far above the heads of us average people in the pew. When someone is accusing the pope of heresy, or of doing things wrong, it is almost certain that they just don't know what they are talking about. Many people on the internet have a half baked knowledge of church teaching, and history and theology. So they cannot be listened to. 3) You have to give the pope the benefit of the doubt. If it turns out that he really did something wrong, eventually everyone will agree that he did something wrong. If only a small group of internet people with big loud mouths are claiming he did something wrong, he probably did not. If bishops and cardinals and theologians who do not usually speak start coming out in large numbers, then maybe something is wrong, but it usually takes a year or two to figure it out. So just ignore the loud mouths.
@@tomthx5804 2. It may be true in some areas of theology it's above the heads of some but in other areas the deviation of Pope Francis from the deposit of faith is clear. As an example, the Pachamama outrage is Old Testament style idolatry. There is nothing complicated about it. Pope Francis is simply blind to it. 3. People did give Pope Francis the benefit of the doubt for a couple of years but after witnessing numerous unexplainable deviations from the deposit of faith and seeing that he ignored even Cardinals when they asked for clarification, people started to see that this guy, the Pope, just holds heretical views. Truth and morality are not subject to majority vote. So it does not matter whether its one deacon who sees error in the pope's pronouncement (as happened in the Ariane heresy) or whether the entire college of Cardinals that sees heresy; it's a matter of being right or wrong.
Straight forward and morally clear, as has been every video I've viewed. I do have a question though. Why isn't the dogma that the Holy Spirit chooses the Pope through the Cardinals enough to quell criticism. If God chose Francis through the College why is there criticism of his Papacy? Seems like a freshman question I guess, but I never see it addressed. Btw, I was Baptized and Confirmed but left in my teen years. Returned well into my 50's, trying to make sense of it all now. Love your channel. You have a trustworthy presence. God bless you Brian.
Dan, it is absolutely NOT the teaching of the Church that whoever was elected Pope, was the actual choice of the Holy Spirit. This has never been the official teaching at any time or any where. We know that the Holy Spirit is present at the conclave, and is always trying to inspire every soul to choose rightly, but neither our choices or the choices of the Cardinals in the conclave are guaranteed to be what the Holy Spirit actually wanted. The Cardinals who are present at the conclave continue exercising free will to accept the guidance of the Holy Spirit or to reject it. What we ARE taught, however, is to accept such decisions with a supernatural spirit of faith. For, even if one who was not “God’s Choice” was elected to the papacy, God has certainly permitted it, and He alone knows what other accidental goods can be derived from such a situation. So, a Pope may or may not be God’s objective will, but he is at least the result of God’s permissive will.
@@marka.byerly7009 Thank you for the extended response. It has been nagging at me the last few weeks, and it looks like something I'll have to pursue further. I googled it of course, and came away with too much information--and opinion--to process. Went to Catholic Encyclopedia and the Catechism for definitive answers but the question is buried in tightly packed doctrine I will have to explore. Your response makes sense to me, but is in a way dispiriting. I would love to believe that the Holy Spirit is working directly to guide the Church, and more importantly to protect her and the faithful. Thanks again for your response. God bless you, brother.
@@dannybaseball2444 You’re very welcome, Dan. You can email me at markbyerly@yahoo.com if you wish to continue the conversation more deeply. I can refer you to some sources which may be of help in the question. God bless you for your eagerness to get to the truth of things! Laudetur Jesus Christus!
I'm working currently on a defense of the papacy (which is not a defense of everything a pope says or does), so I found it nice that YT recommended your video. I was struggling with how to approach the criticism of the current pontificate and can appreciate your approach. As a priest I see an obvious negativ effect (sarcasm, bitterness, joy in failings, hate) for the spiritual life. Yet it is a bit more complicated than just submitting or ignoring the obvious problems - for as a father you might need to answer to your own children much like I as a priest, participating in the office of tending Christ's flock, need to answer to the faithful. People that are in your care (of whom you are the head either in the family or as a pastor) have a need to understand the "contradictions" and the contradictions. It is not a matter of trash talking someone, gossiping or harming the reputation of someone. Rather the faithful in your family and in a parish need to make sense of what they are (inescapably) hearing from the Vatican via the media or directly though its statements. What do footnotes in AL mean, for example? That is a real problem. It is real for the faithful and it is real for everyone in the hierarchy. The lack of clarity and actions in promoting a certain understanding by the pope himself (letters to bishop's conferences come to mind) is not a matter of conspiracy theories, but simply a given fact. And we have to deal with the fact if we want to witness to the Church's teaching on marriage or the teaching on sacraments. I think Joe Heschmeyer in his "Pope Peter" goes about it in the right way: we need to remember how and what the pope really is. We need to accept his fallabilty - much like we need to accept the fallability of our earthly fathers. The pope's special charism as universal shepherd has concrete limits. The reverence we owe to him is not incompatible with criticism - though it might be rightly asked - like you do - what is it good for and am I the one tasked with correcting this particular "brother" if he cannot even hear me. But while a child that is mistreated by its father might not speak out against him for fear of him, it would be right and just for the child to seek aid from someone who can correct the ill or make sense of the whole situation. You say that you can only think of schismatics that criticise a pope. But is it not a fact, that we have absolutely no problem showcasing the shortcomings of bad popes of the past. You were looking for a saint speaking badly about popes. Ven. Caesare Baronio, companion of St. Philip Neri and father of modern church history was the one who actually coined the phrase "dark ages" though he used it not like the enlightenment did for the middle ages but for the p*rnocracy of the evil popes at the end of the 1st millenium. He was writing against protestant polemics but it did not clould his judgement. In fact making the distinction between the rightful authority of the pope and his fallibility in all but a few matters is vital to defend the papacy to begin with. It makes it possible to say: "look, he is the pope, he is the universal shepherd, but not everything he says on a plane is an exercise of his office. So listen to the pope when he speaks or acts as universal shepherd, but otherwise pray for him and move on with your Christian life (much like people had to do when the Borgias were popes). In conclusion, I would agree that criticism for the sake of criticism has no aim. The obession with the failings of others - even when true - is detrimental to the spiritual life. But taking up criticism and showing how while the criticism is true, it is in fact compatible with what he understand the pope to be, is a service - a catechetical and apologetic service performed by father for his children, a youtuber for his audience, or a priest for his faithful. Just a thought. p.s. Just something curious on one of the examples you give: St. Paul might have corrected St. Peter as a fellow apostle and a brother - even in private maybe - depending on what "withstanding to his face" means. But we know of the incident how? Through a letter Paul sent to a local church where he spreads out the fault of Peter and his correction by him for everyone to know (in fact every Christian ever because his letter ended up in the NT). I'm bringing this to your attention, because it would seem the right course is probably closer connected to the exercise of the virtue of prudence that a strict interpretation of a rule (commandment).
Thanks for some great observations, especially on the family, respect due to family heads and how this relates to the Pope and church heirarchy and why we shouldn't publically criticize them.
"According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful .." Code of Canon Law, Canon 212. "It must be observed, however, that if the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly." Summa Theologica, IIa-IIae, q. 33, a. 4, ad. 2.
"Wherefore schismatics are those who refuse to submit to the Sovereign Pontiff, and to hold communion with those members of the Church who acknowledge his supremacy." St Thomas Aquinas
What do you do when the Pope is a schismatic? What if he promotes marxism, champions and protects homosexualists, panders to modernists and allows pagan idol worship at the Vatican? What do you do then?
@P K no he isnt a leftist thats calumny id advise you go to your confessor as soon as possible and im a leftist? thats news to me im actually a fascist politically so once again you are off base badly, perhaps some spiritual direction will help you find charity. No the latin mass shouldn't screen we should be working to get more people in to witness the holy sacrifice of the mass in this article you will find Pope Francis opinion on leftists catholiccitizens.org/views/85927/the-politically-incorrect-francis-14-shocking-statements/
@Samy Nia no he wouldnt. imagine being so prideful you think you can step into the shoes or the mind of a saint get off youtube and get out of my replies your prideful Pharisee. Saint Thomas would probably chase you away with a torch if he could
Thank you for this video, it comes at a very important time for Catholics in America right now, but also my own spiritual life. I feel like as I venture further into the traditional community, the more negatives I see about even great Popes like St John Paul II because of his roll in Vatican II, but especially about Pope Francis. So, thank you, because I sure needed this and I hope others take what you are saying to heart as well.
You can be sure someone is lying to you if they lead you to believe that JP II was bad or if Vatican II was wrong, This is a simple rule I have learned - if they bash JP II or Vatican II, there is something really wrong with them and eventually I find out they have been lying, exaggerating or distorting things. They may sound like they are wonderful people, full of rosaries and latin prayers and deeply devoted. But eventually they start trying to lure you into hating the Catholic church. Beware of such people. They want to break you away from the church, they have a breakaway cult they want you to join.
Tom thx What is this judging I am reading from you?!?!? If someone thinks one thing it’s because something is wrong with them? Really? Take a step back for a second.
@@tomthx5804 I don't think that's true. Most criticism of Vatican II comes the fear of the present state of the Church, completely justified I believe, and a longing for the rich tradition of our fathers. I don't think that the translation of the Mass into the vernacular is bad or was ill-intentioned, but I can't help but look at deterioration of the Church in the last century and not link it to the only major shift in the Church during that time. If I say that I prefer the Tabernacle in the main church, and I can't help but feel slightly heretical as I watch man sit in the place of Christ on the altar, I don't think I am lying or hating the Church. I genuflect before the true presence of Jesus Christ, not to the Chair of the Priest Celebrant.
@Samy Nia I'm not bothered by legitimate and necessary criticism, as long as it's done with the good of the whole Church in mind and not coming from a self-righteous superiority. Let's not forget that the word legitimate means conforming to the law. Do you think the Catechism or Canon Law gives a lay person the authority to publicly condemn the Anointed Vicar of Christ? Who do you think acted more legitimately when faced with a corrupted Church, Martin Luther or Ignatius of Loyola? One rooted his criticism in his own pride and took to the streets to show the errors of the Church, and the other submitted himself to the Church authority to be imprisoned and flogged repeatedly. Which man do you think Christ raised to the altar? I'm not saying we can't disagree with the Pope, but we have to make sure these disagreements stay within our realm of authority. Haven't you ever noticed how often the largest obstacles in the Saints' lives is the Church, sometimes the Church even has a hand in their martyrdom? We must follow our Priests, as they follow their Pastor, as they follow their Bishop, as they follow their Cardinal, as they follow Rome.
I just saw this Brian. This is absolutely spot on. I'm still fairly new Catholic.. Only 3 years but still feeling my way through this anti Francis movement. One channel even called him "a wicked evil old man". This from a traditionalist channel. Amazing.
In Matthew 23, Jesus is trying to get across that there are no levels. “Call no man rabbi or father, for you have one teacher and one Father in heaven.” That is to say, our teachers don’t stand above us, but serve us.
This Pope has added two new words to my vocabulary. One I will not repeat in polite company. The other is parrhesia or frankness. I am opposed to the publication of the Scicluna-Grech interpretation of Amoris Laetitia in L'Osservatore Romano. I am opposed to a papal knighthood for Lilianne Ploumen. I am opposed to Holy Communion for pro-abortion politicians and pro-homosexual cardinals. The State has the right to inflict the death penalty for serious offences, and to extradite fugitives from another country. Concerning the actions of previous Popes, I am opposed to a papal knighthood for Rupert Murdoch. I am opposed to the beatification of Karl Habsburg. Am I allowed to say anything? This is a dreadful time for the Christian Church. I favour using the Internet to distribute prayers. They can be carefully formatted on a spreadsheet, printed off as PDFs, and made available for downloading. Users can be encouraged to transcribe them as handwritten prayers over the course of time.
Very good. And challenging. As a Lutheran, I of course have a heritage of an individual (and others) speaking against the pope publicly, so your final comments are thought-provoking. Especially against the background of the fourth commandment. Thanks for being courageous. I tilt towards being, "let's get the dirty laundry out on the table" type, but of course wouldn't want mine there. Thanks for making me think. Again. God's Peace.
Love your comments on this issue. I just have one problem. The Pope who may be the current "Father" of our house is not as accessible as our actual parents at home. I can't bring Pope Francis to my dinner table and hold a discussion with my criticisms of him and how his confused teachings are harming our Family. So, I and many others have made it public so the word can travel upon the air and into his ears. I understand though your concept of the family. It is the same way my platoon in the Army would handle issues. But again the Pope is not so accessible and he is a public figure.
Couldn't like more. It helped me to understand why i should love and pray for the head shepherd of our family than criticizing him in public. Thank you!
Regarding Paul and Peter, Paul criticized Peter's behavior, not his doctrine. As Lumen Gentium 25 maintains, and which Paul did, we must give "religious submission of mind and will" to all teaching of the pope, with no exceptions provided.
I was so moved by the courageous visit to Irak and Erbill, our Pope looks so tired and drained but so acclaimed too by the people, he looks like he is feeling deeply all the harsh words said against him but mainly against his people and his church and certainly the pains of Jesus on calvary. The Pope doesn't need our criticism but rather our prayer support.
The family analogy doesn't really work here. Most laypersons have never met the Pope, there is no actual familial relationship. As far as the Pope is concerned, I don't exist. Also, rationally speaking, we aren't children. We are able to reason and follow a well formed conscience. I've spent a lot of time mulling over this very problem. I made excuses and tried to play the mental gymnastics, again and again, to see the justification for the many irregularities I've seen and heard from the Pope. At some point you have to ask yourself if he's gone too far. I personally think he's reached that point and it pains me to say it. It's gut-wrenching.
@@YusefYandron Yes, I've heard that before. I don't think it's a good idea to blindly follow any man, including the pope. If he says or does something that seems contrary to the faith, then he should be questioned. If he refuses to clarify, then do you simply follow without question? Some would say yes. It's certainly easier and more comforting to do so. I can't do that.
@@escabrosa1 i trust in Jesus Christ in his Church and HIS ordained VICAR YES ABSOLUTELY i will be loyal to him i am not a protestant. the Pope has posited no heresy not that you are fit to be a judge if he has
So blessed Brian! Cardinal Sarah says to criticize the Pope is to be outside the Church
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sorry but when one sees obvious blasphemy in the catechism - I will indeed criticize the Pope, and that means many Popes since Vatican II, AND **ALL** the Bishops, Cardinals and priests that just let it pass too. They are **NOT** Untouchables. They are **NOT** listening to anyone other than themselves and think of us as lesser than them. I am an adult, and will indeed criticize since all the letters that I have sent to them have been totally ignored.
I think one way to look at it is that we follow the see, the foundation not precisely the person. We follow the center of unity of the church, which is one as Christ is one with the father.
@@BrianHoldsworth If it was just a person it will have ended with Peter. But because is a seat, who holds the keys holds the power to open the door. When someone dies the keys remain and no matter how good someone is, the effectivity to open the door depends on the key and not who opens it. Sure it is a person who keeps the keys, but don't stand in its own capabilities and that is really good news for the church.
thanks brother Brian for that clear explanation and for depending our catholic family..God bless u more brother Brian... love frm ur family in the Philippines
Speaking the truth, even if it’s controversial and unpleasant, if done for the right reasons, it’s not wrong. Thus, pointing out the errors that a pope preaches and teaches is not wrong. It’s simply being objective.
You get it, Brian. 👊🏻thank you! We can disagree, without trash talk. If there is scandal and heresy we must discuss and denounce and then provide the truth in love. God gave us intellects and made us to love and be loved...We are not blind followers.
Each person has his own purpose in blogging. You are right to not get distracted. There is a right and wrong way to correct someone. We are allowed to ask questions and ask for clarification.
We aren’t working through our problems though. Nothing has been done about the scandal and this scandal touched my family personally. My brothers have left the Catholic family and feel no love for the Church. I pray they come back but I see how hard it is if they’ve been ignored!
A wise video, Brian - a sign of Christian maturity I would argue. It tends to be white conservative male (and interestingly previously Protestant) Catholics who are most offended by Francis. The Catholic Church, it turns out, isn't what they thought it was. We cradle Catholics do what Lumen Gentium 25 requires -- "religious submission of mind and will" to all teaching of the pope, without exception, as Lumen Gentium from an ecumenical council (Church's highest teaching authority) requires.
"On another occasion a group of pilgrims visiting him [Blessed Solanus Casey, Detroit, MI] had occasion to complain about some action of their local bishop. Solanus could not tolerate such criticism of the church whose representative the bishop was. He roundly scolded the complainers for their lack of love and respect for God's chosen minister." Source: "Meet Solanus Casey" by Brother Leo Wollenwevee, OFM, Cap. Pg 90. Servant. Copyright 2002.”
Respect for the Authority of the Church and its ordained is necessary if we do not want to fall into Protestantism and the focus of theologians and their interpretations of the Faith.
Okay, some point taken, but if everyone complained privately to the Pope, he could just ignore it, and everyone would think "it's just me". It seems that there *could* be reason to criticize publicly if the Pope were actively working against the faith, otherwise one could do nothing, or petition the Pope privately, which would also amount to doing nothing. In any case, there are many platforms doing this already, so you shouldn't feel compelled to join in.
I get so disheartened by the vitriol in Catholic circles. It is truly disgusting. Yes, we should call out sin, but we should also avoid the sin of detraction. We need to do this constructively with love and not in a destructive way that needs to further sin and ruin.
I agree that we should avoid the sin of detraction. Not to reveal a person's sin to another without a legitimate reason. But that does not apply in this case because Catholics are criticizing the Pope's publicly propagated errors. His actions are well know and public and some are scandals (like the Pachamama in St Peters basilica). These are not cases of detraction.
"Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope. I know very well that many defend themselves by boasting: “They are so corrupt, and work all manner of evil!” But God has commanded that, even if the priests, the pastors, and Christ-on-earth were incarnate devils, we be obedient and subject to them, not for their sakes, but for the sake of God, and out of obedience to Him."
--St. Catherine of Siena [extract from the Florentine letters]
That’s ridiculous, the Orthodox don’t tolerate any form of subversion whatsoever.
@@collectiveconsciousness5314 Yes they do. They've always relied on secular principalities to define their ecclesiastical authority and jurisdiction, which is far worse. At least Jesus appointed Peter. First the Byzantine emperor, then the Czars, then anyone that the church's could cozy up to. They even tried to do so with the Ottomans and the communists.
Brian Holdsworth But... what changes to their doctrine have they _actually_ made as a result? What heretic sects have sprung up from them?
And it seems more that they have endured greater persecution from all those groups, particularly the latter two. They also have not done anything as despicable as pandering to *the World’s Foremost Problem* (who are also the communists BTW), who brought the RCC to its knees with Vatican II.
@@collectiveconsciousness5314 They haven't made changes to doctrine because they have no official doctrine and no mechanism to even discuss doctrine. They have no emperor to call councils which is why secular authority was never Our Lord's idea for the Church and why it has failed the East. It's no triumph to say that they haven't changed for a thousand years if that lack of change is due to paralysis.
Maybe the translation is not accurate, cause she would be implying basically that if the antichrist would become pope we must accept it. How would we be faithful followers of Jesus if we do nothing when false prophets, heretics and the corrupt enter the priesthood?
This man put a timer so you could easily skip his ad placement. What an absolute hero.
This guy is good. Lol .
Both way, I don't watch all the videos, which I should, as much as I dislike this communist pope, I have to agree with him in some way. I watch church militant alot so its nice to watch here too
@@tomchipego CM has no choice but to call the pope on his BS that goes against the traditional true faith they aren't just Catholics criticizing, they have the unloved role of journalism for the faith why I too watch them.
@@shannonnezul4903 I agree, I was born in 65, so all I know is the new mass, but I was born in a family of great faith and I hear it in CM. I agree with their stance and support them. Its very interesting because I live in the Scranton diocese, which correctly CM has been banging on "bambi".its well known that the Scranton diocese has been a haven for homosexuals and pedophiles. You listen to this channel and you think, yes I can agree with that, but then you hear the St Patricks sermon this past weekend supporting blm, its well known to be an atheist communist front, and then you have the sermon in new England saying Catholics should support pro choice. Its nice to listen to this channel and think, yes this is where we should be, but its not realistic. Our friend here looks at things like a new born child, all new and shinny. But we are at a cultural and spiritual war. There have been anti popes before and there are anti bishops and priests now. We have to decide where we want to be. Maybe eventually after a break we will be a smaller more traditional Catholic church and that where I will be. Our friend here is standing in the middle of the road, when you stand in the middle you will get squashed. You pull 1 quote over 2000 years to support the pope, I'm sure we can pull 2000 quotes to support the defense of the faith against bad spiritual leaders
@@tomchipego TM just makes people angry. That opens the way for the devil to get in. Skip it.
@@tomchipego Pray about it. Try looking for a parish where the true faith is preached.
"The thing about temptation is that it's so easy to rationalise and justify as if you're doing something in the service of the greater good." ... yep, that hits home.
Yeah, kind of like cowardice masquerading as piety. When the rapists comes into your house and attacks you beloved wife, you don't sit idly by. You defend her and the family against the assailant.
Doesn’t change the fact that Pope Francis is still a Judas.
I'm anticipating a few replies to some points I made so I'm going to respond here in anticipation of them. Regarding St. Paul and St. Peter, I didn't quite emphasize what I meant to in the way it came out (the downside of verbal communication vs. written). I understand that in St. Paul's account, he rebuked St. Peter publicly. The point I was trying to emphasize was that he did it personally. He had a personal relationship with Peter and was in a position to give that feedback directly. The same is true with St. Catherine of Sienna. This example stands in contrast to those who would publish public criticisms directed to the public (rather than the person being criticized) and not from a position of authority or personal relationship with the one criticized.
I also think I overstated the fact that the laity/children don't have the right to offer critical feedback. They do, but just not in an indiscriminate way. Canon law says that the faithful have the right to share their thoughts and opinions with their pastors and to the rest of the faithful. That, to me, would be analogous to the family meeting. We discuss it among ourselves, but not in a way that is broadcast to the whole world. It's also important to note that it is supposed to be done in a way that is mindful of their dignity and with reverence.
Do you consider to have a conversation with Taylor Marshall ?
@@thomasvonaquin2381 It would be very nice.
@@thomasvonaquin2381 I'm afraid that would be a waste of time. People like Marshall or Michael Voris built their base and make their money by exploiting gossip and scandal, which is what Brian is very classily criticizing here. There's a virtually insurmountable class gap between those two.
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How do you come to the conclusion that the work of Taylor Marshall is exploiting gossip ?
@@thomasvonaquin2381 because I watched/heard him way more times than I should have.
To love is also to “will the good of the other” and “contains elements of struggle” (St. Pope John Paul II); so, sometimes love requires we speak out against error that our Pope may be engaged in ... but we must do this with charity, forgiveness, and hope.
Indeed. The last three parts can be the most challenging at times.
Like St. Paul said, ""If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal. And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge, if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing. (1 Cor. 13:1-2)"
Have all faith and preach all Truth, but no love = "a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal." Phew, that can be a tough one to master.
Thank you for this. I often see people mentioning St Katherine of Sienna to justify criticizing the Pope. But if you read her letters, you can see just how deferential, charitable and obedient she was. She knew her place, and it wasnt above the Pope. And thats a woman who had frequent ecstasies and received knowledge directly from Our Lord. We can never forget charity when criticizing anyone, let alone the leader of our Church.
Pray for Pope Francis - but if the father is abusing The Mother in this case the Church you need to step in as a family and protect her. Let us carefully watch what happens this Thursday May 6th through May 8th 2021, when the Pope will be in discussion with many pro -abortionists, communists and eugenicists. Also keep in mind when Pope Francis placed on the alter of St Peter the image of Pache Mama, a Amazonian deity known for destruction and he also made coins of her to sell. I am very concerned where the world is going at this time, so I pray the rosary every day for the USA and the world because of Globalism and the One World Order. I have in my 70 years on this earth never seen it so bad. This Pope also took 2 billion dollars from Communist China who is killing their Christians and other people of faith - to stand by and say nothing is not to protect the innocent from destruction and is an act of cowardice!
From the Catechism: Fidei Depositum: “Guarding the deposit of faith is the mission which the Lord has entrusted to his Church and which she fulfills in every age”. The Pachamama incident occurred in his presence (the Pope’s) so being silent to this event is to take part, we must defend the deposit of faith!!
Depends what you mean by deposit of Faith ? Is it your Faith or The Churchs Faith? You better know your history and I mean just not what You focus on but the entirety ? The Church has 2000yrs of history ! During the plague for example in the 13 century people used to receive communion Once a year and because of the plague they were denied this ! They had to look as the Host was elevated for all to see without partaking in it ...St Thomas of Aquinas came 1500 yrs after the first Christians. ...
@Samy Nia Pope Francis has done nothing that is against Scripture or the Catechism ! Slander is a mortal sin !
When Jesus gave the apostles power to bind and loose he knew what he was doing. If you think the Church he built on the apostles, with all authority from the Father, can fail… you have already left the building. Enjoy your life as a Protestant.
@@godisinchargesueowl8599 at least they got to go to Holy Mass, if what you say is accurate.
@@godisinchargesueowl8599 typical modernist response
I agree with you. Early in my childhood my Great-grandmother told me to pray for a parish priest I didn’t like. I have expanded upon that teaching. As a Religious Brother I prayed for my Superiors. As a priest, I prayed for my Bishops and Provincial Superiors. And since last year I have been praying a daily decade of the rosary for our Holy Father Francis.
"The Church is like Noah's ark that was full of both clean and unclean animals. It must have had an unholy smell, and yet it was carrying eight persons to salvation.” - Archbishop Fulton Sheen
Does this "criticism" include disagreement and pointing out issues that are problematic? Pachamama would be a good recent example. If we were all to stay silent on the Pachamama issue last year, the consequences of that would create more issues.
Non-Catholics and new converts would think that it's ok to bow down to fertility statue as no Catholic was seen to disagree with it.
So if there is a difference, then I think you should've addressed that and given examples of justified criticism/disagreement and schismatic criticism, otherwise it looks like you condemn all types of criticism which is quite vague and undefined, and like the example I gave earlier, could potentially cause worse issues down the line.
I don't think it does. But the key is not to criticize the man.
As in the examples of pachamama or the Pope's condemning of the death penalty.... what someone like Brian Holdsworth or Taylor Marshall should do (if they disagree with the Pope) is to put out their own content in favor of the death penalty.
I think the point of Brian's video is to say..... Rather than just teaching what they believe is true and putting out a pro death penalty argument, people like Taylor Marshall will just do a show about what an ignorant heretical moron the pope is. And that doesn't help anyone. What Taylor Marshall should do in that case, is put out a video in favor of the death penalty. That should be his response and his way of correcting errors that are being put out.
Instead, he just does a show about what an evil infiltrator Francis is.
That's why Taylor Marshall is essentially a gossip show, and Brian Holdsworth is not.
Holdsworth is interested in discussions about issues and Marshall is interested in condemning Pope Francis.
Joseph and Jessica Zwijac The Pope is effectively a Judas, end of story.
@@zwijac i don't like the content of Taylor Marshall, nor is Michael Voris. They are essentially anti catholic and seek to deny that God doesn't know what He is doing.
Brian, this is why you have the best Catholic channel on the internet.
Other UA-camrs who used to be in it to teach and discuss the faith, are now nothing more than Catholic gossip shows.
You my friend are nothing like that, and it's a pleasure to watch your videos.
Thank you so much Brian. One of the reasons I tune in to your channel is precisely that you don't criticise the holy father. I was advised to turn every critical thought into a prayer for the person I found fault with. It has helped me a lot. Charity, above all charity, in our thoughts and words.
Dear Brian, I admire your work tremendously and particularly appreciate the clarity with which you express your thoughts. I often forward your videos because I find them very insightful and want to share your wisdom.
My question for you which I do not believe has been addressed is that there are examples of cardinals and others in the Church who have gone directly to the pope, as you suggest, to request clarification of unclear statements he has made publicly (on a plane, via an exhortation or in an encyclical) which are causing first confusion and then division within the Church. The dubia is a prime example. To what avail? With no response from the pope, confusion and division only grow. As it doesn’t appear that the current pontiff responds to criticism when brought to him directly, then what? Anything beyond prayer, penance and almsgiving? Doesn’t the laity have a moral obligation to speak up to say no, it is not okay for a Catholic to bow to an image of a pagan goddess, for example?
I greatly appreciate the work of the Taylor Marshall and Michael Voris, and while I understand the critique of tone and some characterizations, I admire and am grateful for their dedication and courage in speaking out. The fact is that Michael Voris was reporting on the horrific abuses going on in the church long before anyone else. And Taylor Marshall helped clear the confusion in my mind about many, many things happening in the church, even at a local level. He helped connect dots and made the situation intelligible.
I can deal with the ‘tone’ if it means an end is put to harm done to so many, on so many levels. I can deal with the at times harsh characterizations because they are exposing the filth in the church. I tend to think that Michael Voris, for example, will be forgiven his missteps, because he “has loved much.” Love in the real and difficult sense, in Aquinas’ ‘willing the good of the other’ sense.
One last point, Brian, and that is this: your comments seem to attribute a particular motivation to those who speak out in a critical fashion, that is, that they are motivated by a desire to increase clicks, subscriptions and even for financial gain. I would counsel greater discretion as only God can read hearts. They may in fact be answering a call from our our Heavenly Father to help our Mother clean house.
My thoughts exactly about some of the more direct commentators that sometimes can be less than charitable in tone, but I would never want them to be shut down because the faithful have a right to the truth.
I'm agree with you Karen. I'm not from USA but since l came to know about Voris and Taylor's videos l keep watching their comments and found out what is going on in the Church of Christ and is very heart breaking. God have mercy on us.
Amen
@Karen Bonvecchio Well said. Yes, Michael Voris does come off as a little too assertive (no one is perfect), I guess one can say, but Church Militant does a good job at exposing the evils within our very own Church, which is sad to know they exist.
However, I have noticed Michael Voris has a strong tone only in regard to errors, sins, and other evils, whether they be within the Church or else where. Otherwise, he is a very loving person. He's a tough love kind-of guy. :)
I have been watching your videos for 2 days now. I pay attention to Catholic theology but have never heard these points before. They are articulated perfectly. I am astounded that your channel does not have millions of subscribers. Fantastic job!
I agree that we must be careful when we criticize the hierarchy, but we must call a spade a spade. Pope Francis has stepped in it many times. He has caused a lot of confusion and division with his words and actions. He spends too much time worrying about politics instead of the salvation of souls. I pray for our pope every day and I love our church even though she is truly hurting now. Prayer and penance are the keys to putting things back on track. We must let God be in charge and trust in His timing. Keep up the good work, Brian. You always show tact, charity, and great insight.
The Pope hasnt stepped in anything its ALWAYS the media lying about him or calling him left wing or some other such nonsense. His soul focus is the salvation of souls and we should all pray for his intentions daily
Yusef Yandron Wow you must have blinders on. I know the media is trash, but come on. Video evidence and his own documents cannot be manipulated by news agencies spinning what he said. Take your blinders off.
If you question his statements and actions, then instead of criticising, ask yourself, prayerfully and charitably, if the problem could lie with the institution itself.
@@physiocrat7143 it was warned and forerold beforehand, that Pope Benedict would be forced to step down.
In his stead would be (not validly) elected the false prophet, who will usher in the New World Order. I mean we are seeing it rn.
Bill Gates, Jefrey Sax and how they are called use bergoglio as a mascot for their "Great Reset".
We need to pray for Pope Benedict. God bless.
@@erathor9120 Ah yes, one of the many great conspiracies foretold by the internet...
“We wrestle not against flesh and blood (Pope, any other person) but against powers and principalities (satan and his minions of idolatry, corruption, perversion, etc. throughout the world). We can’t judge people and their motives but we can note behavior, especially our own, as we, by God’s Grace, try to walk the walk. Thanks Brian...always insightful.
Thanks for a very thoughtful video. I agree with you. I remember reading about a woman who encountered and spoke with Jesus during her near-death experience. She had not been living a moral life and would regularly complain about the pope, bishops, and priests. Jesus asked her, “how often did you pray for them?”. He let her know that her speaking ill of them was unloving and sinful, and that she would be held accountable for that and for not praying for them. That really had a profound impact on me. I don’t think I’ll ever forget it.
It is always an act of love to pray for others. It also requires no courage and costs almost nothing.
It can also be an act of love (and often costs more and takes more courage) to call someone out when they sin. It is an even greater act of love when the person in error is leading others to sin (see verse referencing it being better to have a millstone around the neck). I appreciate very much the times people have called me out for errors in my thinking. Although my pride was offended at the time, their comments cracked that pride, ever so slightly. That’s all that was needed for God’s truth to flood in.
I think not praying for errant clergy is a sin of omission, that is, not doing the good we could have done, but calling out publicly propagated error by a pope cannot be a sin if it is done charitably.
This is one of many reasons we love your content, Brian. Thank your for exemplifying the Gospel. Thank you for not capitalizing on the scandal category. Let us justly and lovingly correct our brothers and sisters but not turn it into what some have in doing it wrongly and relentlessly.
It seems to me , that the Pope is more concerned about the affairs of the State , than the affairs of the Roman Catholic church .
It's part of his function to so attend the affairs of state, a state which the church maintains for the benefit is mankind.
Francis is almost on a daily basis granting us his guidance via social media and is reported on daily.
Children do not have the right to offer correction to their parents? That's a fairly alien concept.
If my father were beating my mother not only would I offer correction I would actively oppose him.
If my Pope is trying to bring Idols into the Church and lay waste to the Faith I will do the same and for very similar reasons.
Dismayed Trinket - Absolutely, and when he tells us we have a duty to obey the UN, I know he is a Marxist plant into our Beloved Church. ANY antichrist, even in the guise of a Pope, needs to be challenged (1 John 2:18)
Well said!
What idols is the Pope trying to bring into the Church? How is he trying to lay waste to the Faith? Give me specific examples please...don't tell me to do my research, because I have done it quite thoroughly.
@@JodianWarrior Look up Pachamama. I'm an outsider myself, as yet, but I have found the whole incident, as presented, rather disturbing. Not that that's going to hinder my faith or my eagerness to start RCIA next month. I have faith that whatever's the case, God is going to deal with it.
@@donm-tv8cm That is perhaps the most problematic and scandalous event in Pope Francis's papacy. However, given what the Pope has said in numerous other contexts, I think it's clear that it was not an act of idolatry on the part of the Pope. We don't know his interior attitude towards what happened. I suspect he was not involved with organizing the pachamama ceremony or whatever you want to call it, and that he was presented with a deceptive explanation of what the pachamamas actually were. Pope Francis takes a very different approach than past popes have, so his silence doesn't necessarily mean approval.
I think the incident was wrong, no matter how you frame it, but I don't think it justifies calling Francis an idolater, heretic, or apostate, as many have done. Keep in mind that Pope Francis doesn't use the Internet, so he was probably oblivious to the level of scandal it caused.
"...Padre Pio. He never retaliated against the archbishop, nor even criticized him. In fact the angriest the famous mystical priest was seen to get was with a supporter - a Pio defender - who had attacked the archbishop. Although shattered, Pio was said to have submitted to the bishop’s attacks with what Father Agostino recalled as “holy resignation.” The same was true of Padre Pio’s spiritual director, Padre Benedetto Nardella, who uttered no complaint against the unfair sanctions.
“God’s will be done,” Pio, a Capuchin monk, is quoted as saying. “The will of the authorities is the will of God.”
Source: spiritdaily.org/blog/commentary/archives-padre-pio-and-obedience
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! Finally some one practicing what we preach 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you Brian! I am so happy that you have spoken about this. I believe that if you do not agree with someone, you should pray for them. The Pope needs our prayers and our support. We may not agree with all he does but he is our Pope.
When there is error if we say nothing we sin by omission.
But there is a difference between saying something and criticizing out of your own pride. Many Catholics criticize the pope out of their own pride but look to justify it by saying that they are justs doing it for the church when its obvious that they are doing it for themselves.
"Enjoy the silence"- depeche mode
Are we enjoying our silence yet? I feel like this is cope for cowardice. Is the little kid that said the emperor is naked a criminal for calling it how it is? And besides, how does someone like me criticise a PUBLIC FIGURE privately? Do I make an appointment? Do I slide in to his DM's? Do I just come over after sunday lunch? Enlighten me!
You don't need to criticize him. That's the point. It's not your place, it's the place of the bishops. Whether they do so or not is not your concern. Your concern is to live a good and holy Christian life and to pray for the pope, not to take him to task.
@@JodianWarrior You're right. Not my concern.
@@JodianWarrior What if the pope and all the bishops are corrupt, or if the pope and most bishops are bad apples, and the good bishops and priests and silenced, then what are we to do?
Is being silent, and praying and fasting the only thing for us as laity to do?
@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 It depends what you mean. Because Jesus promised the Church would not fall. Rome will always be the guarantee of orthodoxy, at least in official pronouncements. Now, obviously there have been bad popes in the past and there have been times when most bishops were corrupt. This is why we distinguish between the office and the person. If a bishop is corrupt, you should still respect and obey him except when/if he commands something immoral (i.e. that goes against divine law). God will always work through our obedience, even if we disagree (for instance, I really don't like that bishops are forcing communion on the hand, but it's not against divine law, since that's how the Apostles and the early Christians received the Eucharist).
However, canon law also says that lay people have a right to voice their objections, so we should continue to do so, in a respectful, charitable manner (by writing a polite letter, meeting in person if possible, etc.). So yes, we can do more than pray.
But we also need to educate ourselves on what bishops can and can't do, and what the actual tradition of the Church is. I see a lot of people who seem to think of the tradition of the Church as being what happened in the last 500 years, and ignore the entire Patristic period. If something was widely permitted during the time of and by the Church Fathers, it can't be immoral. We can disagree with it (like communion on the hand, the sign of peace, Mass celebrated versus populum), but not on moral grounds.
Not every father is is a healthy member of the family and some fathers betray the idea of "father" completely.
To become "healthy" the members must excise the wound in their member and expose the infection, not embrace it and cover it up.
Then the whole can heal properly.
Your ideas are expressed so well, thank you for making me think about things from new perspectives!
I’m definitely with you on this one... Thankyou for taking the time to put this together.
I am breaking my principles watching these videos - I like them before I even hear first sentence.
We have had a share of bad popes. But, Christ chose disciples who were far from perfect - they were neither spiritually perfect, and sometimes they were downright dumb. But, our perfection is not what conditions the presence of Christ.
However, lol, I am not so sure that Paul didn't criticise Peter publicly - I mean, he wrote (with quite a gusto) that he did that and to this days all christian comunities read about that 😀
And, Peter and Andrew did not answer back. Peter and Paul were in unity, they both tragically died in Rome. They are were still in unity with other disciples though they were far away from each other. The unity in Christ is the will of Christ, He prayed earnestly that we are ONE as Chris is ONE with the Father.
@@AdFontes8701 He knew we would have problems with that....
@Samy Nia We are the church. We are in it. We are in that ONE BODY. One of the strengths, the powers, of the Church is PRAYER. The question is also back to myself as a member, without closing my eyes to see around, and I wonder to myself if I often set a side a bit of the moment to PRAY for the church... what I do in every day life, as a member of ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH. The wisdom Holy Spirit slows me down to judge.
@Samy Nia I see. The main message I mean is that to KEEP IN UNITY. One of the strengths or powers of the Church is PRAYER. We are the church, the member of ONE BODY, the BODY OF CHRIST. I wonder, without closing my eyes to see around, to myself if I ever set aside a bit of the moment to have a bit prayer for each other, for the church, as ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC CHURCH. I wonder if I never did, or do anything against. I should both deeply LOOK OUT AND INTO MYSELF. BOTH MUST BE IMPROVED. The work of wisdom of the Holy Spirit makes us slow to judge.
The power of prayer is real and really in mouth and heart of true, upright man. And it is true in the word of Cardinal Henry Newman that prayer is able to halt the power of natural law. LET US HAND IN HAND, IN OUR HEART WITH PRAYERS AND DEEDS TO STRENGTHEN EACH OTHER, AS THE MEMBER OF ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. GBU.
Chiaroscuro He also chose Judas, does that mean one like him should be allowed once again in our midst and not booted out?
Thank you so much! I'm going to send this to a couple of friends who do not seam to understand that it is not our place to trash talk the pope 😉
What are you talking about? If he is wrong, yes it is your responsibility.
So true, 'we learn to love God by loving each other in human relationships." Thank you!
First of all, I'm very happy that BH has not gone down the path of constant criticism and scandal. That is why I'm still subscribed to this channel.
I have watched a few videos of "Catholics" who have many videos criticizing and I would almost say, hating the Church, the Pope, bishops, cardinals etc etc... Those types of videos have never helped me to grow and love Catholicism more, quite the contrary.
As viewers we are also tempted, tempted towards scandal, or to be part of a group that is in the right never questioning itself with easy answers and easy solutions, we are tempted into thinking that because we wrote a comment, we have actually acted out something etc... But at the end of the day, we must ask ourselves, does the content I watch help me grow in love for others, or on the contrary, do I grow in antagonism and hate for others?
And I have come to the same conclusion as BH, those who constantly bash on the Catholic church and put out outrageous titles, are exactly like Luther, and creating a schism. Satan is the master of discorde.
So thank you Brian for not going down the road of Catho bashing, and having the humility of recognizing that the easy and clickbait videos were a temptation. I encourage you do continue down the path your are already on, and help me, and many others learn and love even more our religion.
“But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews?” Galatians 2:14
St. Paul actually did correct St. Peter in front of everybody involved.
I really respect the way you express your ideas. I think we need more voices like yours, more neutral.
As an ex-sedevecantist im starting to LOVE this channel
aside from your video today, gotta say thanks to you I discovered the Hallow app. i’ve been looking for a Catholic prayer app for so long and i feel like this is the app that i’ve been looking for! so i downloaded it from your link and subscribed to it. btw i’m not paid for saying this just in case!
Heresy is heresy, no matter who preaches it. Catholics are not required to be stupid.
Stupidity is having no discipline, when your tongue rules you, you are doomed and on the path to spiritual death as it offers no tangible result. It is spiritually edifying to pray. Many complain but offer no recourse. This is the sin of detraction, do it no more and I highly advise bringing this particular issue to the confessional. It is a dangerous road.
Saint Charbel Miracleworker Stupidity is the lack of a mind disciplined to discern truth from error. Buy yourself the Catechism of the Council of Trent and learn some mental discipline. (Not least because you do not seem to understand what the sin of detraction is.)
@@ransomcoates546 Lets play it out. How has gossiping, accusing and complaining helped your spiritual life? If you were smart you would pray, fast and shut up. The verbal diarrhoea all over social media and internet does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for your spiritual life and if some of that is the spreading of malicious lies, half truths and/ or "opinion" masquerading as truth then you are on a dangerous path - can't help people who want to self-destruct. Good luck to you.
Saint Charbel Miracleworker Identifying, for example, the Pope’s heretical religious indifferentism is is hardly ‘gossiping’. My last comment on the matter.
@@ransomcoates546 And who are you to decide/judge that it is indifferentism? Who are you to decide that Christ was wrong when He said the gates of Hell will not prevail.
I will not speak against the Lord's anointed head of our beloved Church. He was placed in this office by Divine inspiration & leading. Great video Brian, could not agree more w/ you!
Great vídeo! I’ve been struggling with the same issues. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Samy Nia I’ve chosen to follow Christ and His Church. Not to criticize the Pope publicly but pray for him.
This is such a refreshing video, I've listened to many Catholics claiming to be catholic yet can't stop criticizing the pope.
Well, I'm not sure if it's a mortal sin to do so, but it's definitely a temptation that we give in to if we keep going on-and-on about it. It can become gossip, for sure, if we turn it into that.
Sinful pride can definitely enter in if we are not careful.
@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 So true, we don't want to scandal our Catholic Faith any more than it is. The Church is incorruptible but the men inside are another story. We cannot gossip or publicly judge and condemn the pope, however, we also have to speak the truth. Francis has committed apostasy and needs prayers.
Peter himself viewed Paul as a fellow elder:
Therefore, I exhort the elders among you, as your fellow elder and witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker also of the glory that is to be revealed, shepherd the flock of God among you, exercising oversight not under compulsion, but voluntarily, according to the will of God; and not for sordid gain, but with eagerness... 1 Peter 5:1 -2
As you can see, Peter does not view himself as “Holy Father” which is title that only our Heavenly Father can use.
Anyone know what music is used at the intro? :)
When Michael Voris stood in front of the Vatican flag in a suit and told Pope Francis to resign for 'the good of his soul', that was pretty much it for me.
In my point of view the pope support the bad ones.
Anna you did right, following people who constantly critizise Pope, actually make sdamage to your faith
@@animgreat2719 I think it's okay to criticize the pope at times because he has his own views that many people might not share, but making a career out of just criticizing the pope and it being obvious that it's sensationalized for views and attention is where it crosses the line for me.
@@esetavea193 Yeah, your point of view is fine. Going out of your way to make your point of view the one Truth is where you'd start going off the rails. Church Militant and Taylor Marshall have crossed into this area and I don't know if they can ever come back from it. It almost feels like they're lying in wait to celebrate when Pope Francis finally dies.
@@abnd8025 One can damage its own soul, the Church and become an obstacle for others to convert to the only Church Christ founded not necesarily by making a carreer out of criticizing Pope, One can Sin way before reaching that extreme or any other. We most be cautious, I've seen people doing this while being far from the case you make.
I really like your title music. I think I should shift my music taste a bit more in this direction. Nothing against modern worship musics - but this one is musically better. And music IS important.
Good Points here. Several other Podcasters are looking ambitiously to grow, and have found that Criticism Sells, but at the end of it all, the Criticizers don't offer anything constructive, they're really not about trying to offer help, they just want to grow their followers, that is becoming more obvious.
I disagree. Truth is more important than unity. Unity in lies and silence is a false unity that we shouldn't pursue nor protect. Truth must be spoken and heard. It's up to the pope to react if he doesn't like the discontent.
Ok I understand. But seriously why did the pope wear the international symbol for pedophile. Not just him many bishops have been seen wearing it. Just asking.
Often times symbols have multiple usecases, similar to how the nazi's hijacked the Swastika. More likely than not it either has another meaning as well, or the person who stitched his robe simply didn't know that the symbol is also used by nambla.
Obviously if the pope had bad intentions, he wouldn't openly wear a symbol like that.
@@Buceesfanmaarten You know maybe I can accept that if it was just that. But the fact that he choose the wear the boy lover symbol for World Youth Day just seems too suspicious.
I think the Pope has someone that chooses the garments he wears for him. Similar to how many celebrities have their own personal stylists (which is not to say the Pope is a celebrity). I have not seen Bishops wearing that symbol, but if it is true then it is worrying.
I assure you Pope Francis is not a pedophile. But many of his bishops and priests are.
@@Buceesfanmaarten and why wouldn't he..? Those symbols are used overtly all the time... It's how they signal to each other.
Thank you for sharing your view on this. I would like to affirm you of the great work you are doing.
I usually agree with you Brian, but on this we have to remember that fraternal correction is acceptable and required out of charity. St. Paul did it for St. Peter...and thats good enough for me.
Really starting to like your channel! What a great message.
The temptation of scandal, as a early confused person I need guidance to keep away from it. So I need positive things I can do, I am praying for our Pope, I know he needs prayer very badly.
Yes. Please keep the prayer going. :) We all need it.
Following the example of Our Lord and few of his saints. I would say we must criticize the Pope if he openly teach heresy or do a sacrilegious or blasphemous act like Pope John Paul II kissing the quran. Many scholars of the Church agree that Christians are obliged to shout here is the wolf, if the Pope or any cleric teach heresy. But we must not criticize them if they do something immortal. In this case, we must pray for that person to convert. However if that person is dangerous to the society or community, than we must judge and condemn that person, for the sake of our neighbour. A good example is Cardinal Mccarrick.
Sorry, my child. JP II kissing the koran was not a big deal. It was not sacrilgious nor was it blasphemous. At most, it was his intention to show respect for his visitors, and such a gesture might be taken wrong. But the people that make a huge deal about this are pretty bad Catholics. Mostly, they are trying to inflate this incident because they are mad that JP II excommunicated their cult leader, Lefebvre. So spreading lies about JP II is how they get back at him for that. Yes, Cardinal McCarrick was an awfully bad person.
Tom thx The actions of JPII mentioned here were most definitely blasphemous. He treated a vile book such as the Koran with the same gesture of reverence we treat the Holy Bible. And now you who were all against judging a minute ago are calling others bad Catholics for condemning this.
@@tomthx5804
Would you kiss koran as well?
Tom thx Now you make me have to ask. Was Pope Francis merely showing respect to indigenous Amazonian people or was he worshiping pagan idols? Showing respect to false teaching and idolatry is not how to convert people. Rather, it reinforces their present sinful state.
@@aretrograde7745 Right! Putting up Christmas trees, what a horrible pagan ritual that promotes a sinful state. Or how about the St John fires, that are lit every year in a village near where I live, which was a pagan ritual celebrating the end of harvest? Or how about Our Lady of Guadalupe, how could she use pagan symbols? Showing respect to another human being, is not only the first step of conversion but also profoundly Catholic. And as the old saying goes, you don't catch flies with vinegar, but with honey.
I just wanna add that the child does have the right to appeal to their parents about something that is hurting them, the same way anyone can appeal to any authority figure.
Galatians 1:8-9
[8]But even if we ourselves or an angel from heaven preaches to you a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let God's curse be on him.
[9]I repeat again what we declared before: anyone who preaches to you a gospel other than the one you were first given is to be under God's curse.
I totally understand what you are saying and do agree to a point. What are we supposed to do though if we see things that confus us? If we don't understand why something is happening or a statement that doesn't quite sit right? If something is obvioius to us and others that it is not quite right or understnadable * at least from what we can see... what are we supposed to do?
That's a lot harder to answer and something I struggle with too. I would say study, pray, fast, and do penance. The Holy Spirit will lead you.
1) Realize that often we read about this stuff in the papers and the internet, and that we don't have all the information. Often things are presented in a one sided manner on the internet, so it would be rash to come to any conclusion until we have studied the subject for a long time.
2) Many theological matters are far above the heads of us average people in the pew. When someone is accusing the pope of heresy, or of doing things wrong, it is almost certain that they just don't know what they are talking about. Many people on the internet have a half baked knowledge of church teaching, and history and theology. So they cannot be listened to.
3) You have to give the pope the benefit of the doubt. If it turns out that he really did something wrong, eventually everyone will agree that he did something wrong. If only a small group of internet people with big loud mouths are claiming he did something wrong, he probably did not. If bishops and cardinals and theologians who do not usually speak start coming out in large numbers, then maybe something is wrong, but it usually takes a year or two to figure it out. So just ignore the loud mouths.
@@tomthx5804 well said Tom thx.
@@BrianHoldsworth Thank You and God Bless You!
@@tomthx5804 2. It may be true in some areas of theology it's above the heads of some but in other areas the deviation of Pope Francis from the deposit of faith is clear. As an example, the Pachamama outrage is Old Testament style idolatry. There is nothing complicated about it. Pope Francis is simply blind to it.
3. People did give Pope Francis the benefit of the doubt for a couple of years but after witnessing numerous unexplainable deviations from the deposit of faith and seeing that he ignored even Cardinals when they asked for clarification, people started to see that this guy, the Pope, just holds heretical views. Truth and morality are not subject to majority vote. So it does not matter whether its one deacon who sees error in the pope's pronouncement (as happened in the Ariane heresy) or whether the entire college of Cardinals that sees heresy; it's a matter of being right or wrong.
Straight forward and morally clear, as has been every video I've viewed. I do have a question though. Why isn't the dogma that the Holy Spirit chooses the Pope through the Cardinals enough to quell criticism. If God chose Francis through the College why is there criticism of his Papacy? Seems like a freshman question I guess, but I never see it addressed. Btw, I was Baptized and Confirmed but left in my teen years. Returned well into my 50's, trying to make sense of it all now. Love your channel. You have a trustworthy presence. God bless you Brian.
Dan, it is absolutely NOT the teaching of the Church that whoever was elected
Pope, was the actual choice of the Holy Spirit. This has never been the official teaching at any time or any where. We know that the Holy Spirit is present at the conclave, and is always trying to inspire every soul to choose rightly, but neither our choices or the choices of the Cardinals in the conclave are guaranteed to be what the Holy Spirit actually wanted. The Cardinals who are present at the conclave continue exercising free will to accept the guidance of the Holy Spirit or to reject it. What we ARE taught, however, is to accept such decisions with a supernatural spirit of faith. For, even if one who was not “God’s Choice” was elected to the papacy, God has certainly permitted it, and He alone knows what other accidental goods can be derived from such a situation. So, a Pope may or may not be God’s objective will, but he is at least the result of God’s permissive will.
@@marka.byerly7009 Thank you for the extended response. It has been nagging at me the last few weeks, and it looks like something I'll have to pursue further. I googled it of course, and came away with too much information--and opinion--to process. Went to Catholic Encyclopedia and the Catechism for definitive answers but the question is buried in tightly packed doctrine I will have to explore. Your response makes sense to me, but is in a way dispiriting. I would love to believe that the Holy Spirit is working directly to guide the Church, and more importantly to protect her and the faithful. Thanks again for your response. God bless you, brother.
Dan, The Holy Spirit does NOT choose the Pope. That's a common misunderstanding.
@@dannybaseball2444 You’re very welcome, Dan. You can email me at markbyerly@yahoo.com if you wish to continue the conversation more deeply. I can refer you to some sources which may be of help in the question. God bless you for your eagerness to get to the truth of things! Laudetur Jesus Christus!
Thank you, thank you and thank you!! May God continue to bless your ministry!!
I love your videos, but honestly the music in the background is very distracting for me, I have auditory sensory issues .
I'm working currently on a defense of the papacy (which is not a defense of everything a pope says or does), so I found it nice that YT recommended your video. I was struggling with how to approach the criticism of the current pontificate and can appreciate your approach. As a priest I see an obvious negativ effect (sarcasm, bitterness, joy in failings, hate) for the spiritual life. Yet it is a bit more complicated than just submitting or ignoring the obvious problems - for as a father you might need to answer to your own children much like I as a priest, participating in the office of tending Christ's flock, need to answer to the faithful. People that are in your care (of whom you are the head either in the family or as a pastor) have a need to understand the "contradictions" and the contradictions. It is not a matter of trash talking someone, gossiping or harming the reputation of someone. Rather the faithful in your family and in a parish need to make sense of what they are (inescapably) hearing from the Vatican via the media or directly though its statements. What do footnotes in AL mean, for example? That is a real problem. It is real for the faithful and it is real for everyone in the hierarchy. The lack of clarity and actions in promoting a certain understanding by the pope himself (letters to bishop's conferences come to mind) is not a matter of conspiracy theories, but simply a given fact. And we have to deal with the fact if we want to witness to the Church's teaching on marriage or the teaching on sacraments. I think Joe Heschmeyer in his "Pope Peter" goes about it in the right way: we need to remember how and what the pope really is. We need to accept his fallabilty - much like we need to accept the fallability of our earthly fathers. The pope's special charism as universal shepherd has concrete limits. The reverence we owe to him is not incompatible with criticism - though it might be rightly asked - like you do - what is it good for and am I the one tasked with correcting this particular "brother" if he cannot even hear me. But while a child that is mistreated by its father might not speak out against him for fear of him, it would be right and just for the child to seek aid from someone who can correct the ill or make sense of the whole situation. You say that you can only think of schismatics that criticise a pope. But is it not a fact, that we have absolutely no problem showcasing the shortcomings of bad popes of the past. You were looking for a saint speaking badly about popes. Ven. Caesare Baronio, companion of St. Philip Neri and father of modern church history was the one who actually coined the phrase "dark ages" though he used it not like the enlightenment did for the middle ages but for the p*rnocracy of the evil popes at the end of the 1st millenium. He was writing against protestant polemics but it did not clould his judgement. In fact making the distinction between the rightful authority of the pope and his fallibility in all but a few matters is vital to defend the papacy to begin with. It makes it possible to say: "look, he is the pope, he is the universal shepherd, but not everything he says on a plane is an exercise of his office. So listen to the pope when he speaks or acts as universal shepherd, but otherwise pray for him and move on with your Christian life (much like people had to do when the Borgias were popes). In conclusion, I would agree that criticism for the sake of criticism has no aim. The obession with the failings of others - even when true - is detrimental to the spiritual life. But taking up criticism and showing how while the criticism is true, it is in fact compatible with what he understand the pope to be, is a service - a catechetical and apologetic service performed by father for his children, a youtuber for his audience, or a priest for his faithful. Just a thought.
p.s. Just something curious on one of the examples you give: St. Paul might have corrected St. Peter as a fellow apostle and a brother - even in private maybe - depending on what "withstanding to his face" means. But we know of the incident how? Through a letter Paul sent to a local church where he spreads out the fault of Peter and his correction by him for everyone to know (in fact every Christian ever because his letter ended up in the NT). I'm bringing this to your attention, because it would seem the right course is probably closer connected to the exercise of the virtue of prudence that a strict interpretation of a rule (commandment).
Respect to you for taking this stance! You are a good man.
Thanks for some great observations, especially on the family, respect due to family heads and how this relates to the Pope and church heirarchy and why we shouldn't publically criticize them.
"According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful .." Code of Canon Law, Canon 212.
"It must be observed, however, that if the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly." Summa Theologica, IIa-IIae, q. 33, a. 4, ad. 2.
This should be pinned.
"Wherefore schismatics are those who refuse to submit to the Sovereign Pontiff, and to hold communion with those members of the Church who acknowledge his supremacy." St Thomas Aquinas
What do you do when the Pope is a schismatic? What if he promotes marxism, champions and protects homosexualists, panders to modernists and allows pagan idol worship at the Vatican? What do you do then?
@@filiusvivam4315 yeah he doesn't do any of that everything you just said is bullshit, you sound like a protestant
a leftist groupie who attends latin mass prays the rosary daily in latin and is loyal to the vicar of Christ wow thats quite the contradiction
@P K no he isnt a leftist thats calumny id advise you go to your confessor as soon as possible and im a leftist? thats news to me im actually a fascist politically so once again you are off base badly, perhaps some spiritual direction will help you find charity.
No the latin mass shouldn't screen we should be working to get more people in to witness the holy sacrifice of the mass
in this article you will find Pope Francis opinion on leftists
catholiccitizens.org/views/85927/the-politically-incorrect-francis-14-shocking-statements/
@Samy Nia no he wouldnt.
imagine being so prideful you think you can step into the shoes or the mind of a saint get off youtube and get out of my replies your prideful Pharisee. Saint Thomas would probably chase you away with a torch if he could
I generally try not to skip ads on UA-cam catholic channels.
Thank you for this video, it comes at a very important time for Catholics in America right now, but also my own spiritual life. I feel like as I venture further into the traditional community, the more negatives I see about even great Popes like St John Paul II because of his roll in Vatican II, but especially about Pope Francis. So, thank you, because I sure needed this and I hope others take what you are saying to heart as well.
You can be sure someone is lying to you if they lead you to believe that JP II was bad or if Vatican II was wrong, This is a simple rule I have learned - if they bash JP II or Vatican II, there is something really wrong with them and eventually I find out they have been lying, exaggerating or distorting things. They may sound like they are wonderful people, full of rosaries and latin prayers and deeply devoted. But eventually they start trying to lure you into hating the Catholic church. Beware of such people. They want to break you away from the church, they have a breakaway cult they want you to join.
Tom thx What is this judging I am reading from you?!?!? If someone thinks one thing it’s because something is wrong with them? Really? Take a step back for a second.
Tom thx Do you have any evidence of such break away cult you are proposing such people are recruiting for? I caution potential baseless accusations.
@@tomthx5804 I don't think that's true. Most criticism of Vatican II comes the fear of the present state of the Church, completely justified I believe, and a longing for the rich tradition of our fathers. I don't think that the translation of the Mass into the vernacular is bad or was ill-intentioned, but I can't help but look at deterioration of the Church in the last century and not link it to the only major shift in the Church during that time. If I say that I prefer the Tabernacle in the main church, and I can't help but feel slightly heretical as I watch man sit in the place of Christ on the altar, I don't think I am lying or hating the Church. I genuflect before the true presence of Jesus Christ, not to the Chair of the Priest Celebrant.
@Samy Nia I'm not bothered by legitimate and necessary criticism, as long as it's done with the good of the whole Church in mind and not coming from a self-righteous superiority. Let's not forget that the word legitimate means conforming to the law. Do you think the Catechism or Canon Law gives a lay person the authority to publicly condemn the Anointed Vicar of Christ? Who do you think acted more legitimately when faced with a corrupted Church, Martin Luther or Ignatius of Loyola? One rooted his criticism in his own pride and took to the streets to show the errors of the Church, and the other submitted himself to the Church authority to be imprisoned and flogged repeatedly. Which man do you think Christ raised to the altar?
I'm not saying we can't disagree with the Pope, but we have to make sure these disagreements stay within our realm of authority. Haven't you ever noticed how often the largest obstacles in the Saints' lives is the Church, sometimes the Church even has a hand in their martyrdom? We must follow our Priests, as they follow their Pastor, as they follow their Bishop, as they follow their Cardinal, as they follow Rome.
Excellent arguments. I am going to use them as in my life as in an argumentative reply.
I just saw this Brian. This is absolutely spot on. I'm still fairly new Catholic.. Only 3 years but still feeling my way through this anti Francis movement. One channel even called him "a wicked evil old man". This from a traditionalist channel. Amazing.
Any update today?
In Matthew 23, Jesus is trying to get across that there are no levels. “Call no man rabbi or father, for you have one teacher and one Father in heaven.” That is to say, our teachers don’t stand above us, but serve us.
Obviously there are levels. Laypeople can't submit papal bulls.
I’ve seen several go full blown negative. However, there is plenty to be concerned about today.
This Pope has added two new words to my vocabulary. One I will not repeat in polite company. The other is parrhesia or frankness. I am opposed to the publication of the Scicluna-Grech interpretation of Amoris Laetitia in L'Osservatore Romano. I am opposed to a papal knighthood for Lilianne Ploumen. I am opposed to Holy Communion for pro-abortion politicians and pro-homosexual cardinals. The State has the right to inflict the death penalty for serious offences, and to extradite fugitives from another country.
Concerning the actions of previous Popes, I am opposed to a papal knighthood for Rupert Murdoch. I am opposed to the beatification of Karl Habsburg.
Am I allowed to say anything?
This is a dreadful time for the Christian Church. I favour using the Internet to distribute prayers. They can be carefully formatted on a spreadsheet, printed off as PDFs, and made available for downloading. Users can be encouraged to transcribe them as handwritten prayers over the course of time.
Very good. And challenging. As a Lutheran, I of course have a heritage of an individual (and others) speaking against the pope publicly, so your final comments are thought-provoking. Especially against the background of the fourth commandment. Thanks for being courageous. I tilt towards being, "let's get the dirty laundry out on the table" type, but of course wouldn't want mine there. Thanks for making me think. Again. God's Peace.
Would love for you to do a podcast, and revisit this subject with Tom Woods as a guest
Love your comments on this issue. I just have one problem. The Pope who may be the current "Father" of our house is not as accessible as our actual parents at home. I can't bring Pope Francis to my dinner table and hold a discussion with my criticisms of him and how his confused teachings are harming our Family. So, I and many others have made it public so the word can travel upon the air and into his ears. I understand though your concept of the family. It is the same way my platoon in the Army would handle issues. But again the Pope is not so accessible and he is a public figure.
Couldn't like more. It helped me to understand why i should love and pray for the head shepherd of our family than criticizing him in public. Thank you!
Regarding Paul and Peter, Paul criticized Peter's behavior, not his doctrine. As Lumen Gentium 25 maintains, and which Paul did, we must give "religious submission of mind and will" to all teaching of the pope, with no exceptions provided.
For most people, I would recommend watching the previous video _Disagreeing with Pope Francis_ , it goes hand-in_hand with this one
Your videos always seem to make my day man. Keep it up. God be with you brother.
I was so moved by the courageous visit to Irak and Erbill, our Pope looks so tired and drained but so acclaimed too by the people, he looks like he is feeling deeply all the harsh words said against him but mainly against his people and his church and certainly the pains of Jesus on calvary. The Pope doesn't need our criticism but rather our prayer support.
The family analogy doesn't really work here. Most laypersons have never met the Pope, there is no actual familial relationship. As far as the Pope is concerned, I don't exist. Also, rationally speaking, we aren't children. We are able to reason and follow a well formed conscience.
I've spent a lot of time mulling over this very problem. I made excuses and tried to play the mental gymnastics, again and again, to see the justification for the many irregularities I've seen and heard from the Pope. At some point you have to ask yourself if he's gone too far. I personally think he's reached that point and it pains me to say it. It's gut-wrenching.
sound protestant you should stop watching the "news"
@@YusefYandron Yes, I've heard that before. I don't think it's a good idea to blindly follow any man, including the pope. If he says or does something that seems contrary to the faith, then he should be questioned. If he refuses to clarify, then do you simply follow without question? Some would say yes. It's certainly easier and more comforting to do so. I can't do that.
@@escabrosa1 i trust in Jesus Christ in his Church and HIS ordained VICAR YES ABSOLUTELY i will be loyal to him i am not a protestant.
the Pope has posited no heresy not that you are fit to be a judge if he has
Yusef Yandron I think you are confusing papal infallibility with impeccability. You might want to clarify your understanding of papacy.
@@aldrichemrys naaah im good Pope Francis hasn't spread or propagated any heresy
So blessed Brian!
Cardinal Sarah says to criticize the Pope is to be outside the Church
sorry but when one sees obvious blasphemy in the catechism - I will indeed criticize the Pope, and that means many Popes since Vatican II, AND **ALL** the Bishops, Cardinals and priests that just let it pass too. They are **NOT** Untouchables. They are **NOT** listening to anyone other than themselves and think of us as lesser than them. I am an adult, and will indeed criticize since all the letters that I have sent to them have been totally ignored.
What makes the changes to the catechism blasphemous?
I think one way to look at it is that we follow the see, the foundation not precisely the person. We follow the center of unity of the church, which is one as Christ is one with the father.
Except Jesus didn't choose a jurisdiction, a chair, or a constitution to be his Vicar. He chose a person. We, therefore, follow the person.
@@BrianHoldsworth If it was just a person it will have ended with Peter. But because is a seat, who holds the keys holds the power to open the door. When someone dies the keys remain and no matter how good someone is, the effectivity to open the door depends on the key and not who opens it. Sure it is a person who keeps the keys, but don't stand in its own capabilities and that is really good news for the church.
@@RicardoGarcia-ib8ro It's not an either or, it's a both.
Thanks so much, appreciate it.God bless you and your mission.🕊
Many people do not understand the principle of Authority
I dont see anything wrong with critiquing the Pope. NOR do i see anything wrong with critiquing those who critique the Pope. Bingo!
I agree with the video... finally someone says it
Absolutely not. I agree with Christ selecting Peter (and his successors) as Vicar of Christ and that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against it.
thanks brother Brian for that clear explanation and for depending our catholic family..God bless u more brother Brian... love frm ur family in the Philippines
Speaking the truth, even if it’s controversial and unpleasant, if done for the right reasons, it’s not wrong. Thus, pointing out the errors that a pope preaches and teaches is not wrong. It’s simply being objective.
You get it, Brian. 👊🏻thank you! We can disagree, without trash talk.
If there is scandal and heresy we must discuss and denounce and then provide the truth in love. God gave us intellects and made us to love and be loved...We are not blind followers.
Thank you. I needed this🙏
Each person has his own purpose in blogging. You are right to not get distracted. There is a right and wrong way to correct someone. We are allowed to ask questions and ask for clarification.
We aren’t working through our problems though. Nothing has been done about the scandal and this scandal touched my family personally. My brothers have left the Catholic family and feel no love for the Church. I pray they come back but I see how hard it is if they’ve been ignored!
Someone like you should criticise his horrible actions, he has done nothing but create more division between fellow Christians.
Thank you Brian, well put.
A wise video, Brian - a sign of Christian maturity I would argue. It tends to be white conservative male (and interestingly previously Protestant) Catholics who are most offended by Francis. The Catholic Church, it turns out, isn't what they thought it was. We cradle Catholics do what Lumen Gentium 25 requires -- "religious submission of mind and will" to all teaching of the pope, without exception, as Lumen Gentium from an ecumenical council (Church's highest teaching authority) requires.
"On another occasion a group of pilgrims visiting him [Blessed Solanus Casey, Detroit, MI] had occasion to complain about some action of their local bishop. Solanus could not tolerate such criticism of the church whose representative the bishop was. He roundly scolded the complainers for their lack of love and respect for God's chosen minister."
Source: "Meet Solanus Casey" by Brother Leo Wollenwevee, OFM, Cap. Pg 90. Servant. Copyright 2002.”
Respect for the Authority of the Church and its ordained is necessary if we do not want to fall into Protestantism and the focus of theologians and their interpretations of the Faith.
I can't even tolerate looking at him. I am a 2 month old Catholic.
Pope Francis is very bad for the Church! He is a hypocrite and dictator lover! I can condone what he is doing to the church!
Okay, some point taken, but if everyone complained privately to the Pope, he could just ignore it, and everyone would think "it's just me". It seems that there *could* be reason to criticize publicly if the Pope were actively working against the faith, otherwise one could do nothing, or petition the Pope privately, which would also amount to doing nothing. In any case, there are many platforms doing this already, so you shouldn't feel compelled to join in.
I get so disheartened by the vitriol in Catholic circles. It is truly disgusting. Yes, we should call out sin, but we should also avoid the sin of detraction. We need to do this constructively with love and not in a destructive way that needs to further sin and ruin.
I agree that we should avoid the sin of detraction. Not to reveal a person's sin to another without a legitimate reason. But that does not apply in this case because Catholics are criticizing the Pope's publicly propagated errors. His actions are well know and public and some are scandals (like the Pachamama in St Peters basilica). These are not cases of detraction.