Nice video, but I suspect most folks like myself will use this truck as a daily driver. I’ll be using it to drive to/from work, run errands, take kids to ball practice, tote my kayak to a from the lakes in this area for a little fishing, take the family camping and making occasional trips to the Home Depot for bags of mulch and dirt.
Then you may not want to spend the additional cost for the extended range battery pack and all the other upgrades you need to take to get the extended battery.
Saved money except on the extra 15000 for the truck and extra 4 hrs(time is money) of charging time. And of course you lost 7hrs of vacation time where you could have been sitting on the beach(6hrs charging - 2 from comparable gas stops + 3hrs for driving at 60mph vs 75. Sell it and get a gas truck. And dont forget about the higher insurance youre paying on an EV.
This is great. I agree that while most ppl will use this truck as a daily, even small businesses, for very local runs and deliveries seeing as how EV/BEV trucks are on the rise, it’s VERY important that they improve to the point of being as practical as their gas and diesel counterparts! Honestly I find it ridiculous to pay upwards of $90k for a mid-range or considerable amount over $120k for a top-tier EV truck just to run errands, to/from work, etc. etc. and it’s just basically a “cool looking”(always plugged-in & charging) driveway ornament! For that money, one should be able to use it like a truck and enjoy long distance road trips, and heavy hauls without time or severe distance restraints!
That video should come with a warning: Caution High Anxiety and Stressful Scenes!! As an EV owner, watching you eek out those last few miles TWICE was a bit stressful. You were calm and confident though. No fear! Nice truck! We will be waiting for part 2 of this road trip.
@@alexzabala2154 I watched that one as well. That was a range test though and not a road trip...but The Fast Lane Truck or TFLEV posted the first road trip with the lightening (at least Part 1) prior to this.
Ford is coming for the EV top spot. I can only imagine it’s only up from here. Great video I have a Mach E on order for the wife and after this video I’ll be buying the lighting.
Great video. Can you please cover more of the charging metrics when you stop? I would love to see what time you plug in, what kind of charging speeds you’re getting at different battery percentages, what time you unplug, etc. Thanks and can’t wait for the next video.
Really great video! I certainly enjoyed riding along with you down to Florida :) I'm getting ready to take my brand new lightning PRO on a 1400 mile trip through several Western states! The southwest to the west has a lot more fast charging stations... The fast charging infrastructures has developed quite nicely in this area of the country. So I don't expect the challenges that you encountered, however this vehicle has a standard range battery! So I'm gonna be probably a little more frequent in regards to how many stops I make. I think getting below 10% would make me a little nervous - given it's such a long trip! Obviously the closer I get to the destination, better I'll feel! :) Anyway thanks for the video! This is such an inspiration as I head out on this adventure!!
Great video summary for such a long ride. Also very helpful information, at the end especially, for those new to electric vehicles. I stumbled across your channel when searching for U-Haul towing … I’m now subscribed and have been enjoying the rest of your content. No nonsense. To the point. Thanks for taking the time to do it.
Reduced speeds greatly increases range. Going 60mph that first stretch instead of 70mph was huge for him. Can tell it isn't his first time driving an EV
I’m in Dover Ohio and just got my 22 platinum lightning three weeks ago! So nice to see your video on a Trip. I wanted to drive mine to Illinois next Friday but I think I’m gonna chicken out because okawville Illinois is like 72 miles from the last charger on the way…I’m having range anxiety just thinking about it lol I decided to take my Powerstroke…I have a 12’ flatbed trailer to take there and back so I don’t want to chance my range.
E-Hermes yes, platinum is standard with ext range battery. It’s just a12’ flat bed trailer that I’ll be hauling a 400lb old neon sign back to Ohio to restore and hang up in my shop! I think I’m gonna take my 21 f150 lariat 3.5 ecoboost just because it’s so much softer and plush lol And I plan to idle it about 10 hours in two days for AC for my dog that will be with me!
4:20 yes, WV 50 kW charging is slow, but it’s only 1/3 the speed of electrify America 150 kW. So 15-80 charge would be 1.5 hours instead of 40 minutes, still doable when towing, just makes the trip slower
Honestly looked like a good trip. I’m concerned with being in outside sales that I really need to have a lot of range. I may only have to wait for the 2nd gen lightning to get closer to the 4-450 mile extended range battery
@@Gumballs66 gas cost 4x sometimes even 5x what it cost to drive an EV and charge @ home Gas is getting phased out by hybrid and EV and I’m all for it And I own a 2014 Silverado V8 w 164k miles but after owning it a few years you care less about the exhaust noises and more about the savings and environment tbh Also I like the idea of hydrogen fuel cell and other alternatives that will eventually come (hydrogen too expensive right now tho)
It really is incredibly comfortable. I’ve only gone on a 247 mile round trip in my platinum lightning as the farthest in one day, but at some point soon I’ll get brave enough to stray farther lol This thing is honestly the best truck Ford has ever made in my opinion…and I’ve owned a lot of new Ford trucks in the last 8 years.
I will be posting a new one of a 1,300 mile trip in the next few days. Truck is really quiet so the noise you are hearing might be from the recording equipment.
The one big thing that originally got me interested in EVs was knowing that the “fuel” was made locally supporting American jobs. Oil/gas comes from all over the world and i hate the idea of any of my money leaving the country. I wish we could track gas and stations could verify American gas at stations. Love this Ford Lighting!
Generally pretty good. For some reason, chargers on east/west trips seem to work much better than chargers on north/south trips on I-77 and I-75, but that may just be a snapshot in time.
great info and thanks for taking the time to make the video and post it. i hope to be able to make a few when my truck shows this summer. my only desire would be to see more video of the charging sessions, but as you mentioned, you were doing other things while charging. can you share how many actual minutes the truck sat on the chargers, from the EA summary emails you have ? i am guessing about 200 or so, given the total KW's you used.
@@EHermes gotcha. 10-15 to 80% in my mach e GT takes a little longer. i figured the lightning would be a bit faster real world, based on other videos and your info.
@@EHermes mach e battery 99KW, 91KW usable in the larger pack. my lightning will be a platinum, so i am losing some range due to the 22's. and the BMS software is s little different in the lightning, i think. it holds well over 100KW deeper into the pack, mainly due to the larger pack size on the extended range variant.
Then I could charge to 70% in Cambridge in 20 minutes, stop again in say Charleston for another 20 minutes and then stop in Wytheville. 40 minutes of charging instead of 2 hours to get to 100% in Cambridge and drive 60 mph to make sure I make it through WV.
@@fathercook yeah for sure thats why electric vehicles aren't ready for this time yet or long trips specially my case since i travel to mexico twice a month 1200 miles and theres no chargers in mexico my truck i only stop one time to fill up 36 gallons f150 takes me 16 hrs to get to my destination
@@EHermes I know EV is an option IF you drive little and never take long trips. The ONLY way to go right now is hybrid and Toyota and Honda REFUSING to go "ALL IN" Like GM Fools and are going for Hydrogen or something other than the FULL EV B.S. There are MANY vids of people who are VERY discusted by being SCAMMED into a FULL EV Truck only to get to charge stations that are broken, and since it's ONLY EV, they have the vehicle TOWED to the dealer.
@@henryhill3778 I drive about 50,000 miles a year between our two EV's and I couldn't be happier, but you do you. I don't think anyone is scammed; some folks may regret their decision, but maybe EV's just aren't right for them either.
It would only take 40 extra minutes for the whole trip to go through Cincinnati, you could easily make that up with shorter charging times and have backup options in case the only charger around is full or not working.
@@EHermes I copied your trip and modified it to travel I75 through Cincinnati and skip W Virginia like you said you'd do if you were pulling a trailer and it estimates that the trip would take 40 minutes longer than the one you took. That one charge that took you 2 hours cost you at least 40 minutes.
@@mikemorin76 ua-cam.com/video/FMwSM_-f7No/v-deo.html. I did that trip. While the chargers were placed much more evenly spaced, they were in terrible condition.
I have a spreadsheet, but it does not cut and past well. From 8% to 86% took 30 minutes; From 22% to 85% took 51 minutes so it depends on the charger location.
@@EHermes at the EA stations did you always connect to a 350 KW if it was available? Obviously the truck does over 150 KW sometimes when charging so would definitely not want to just use a 150 if there is a 350 available. I wonder if that changed the time any when charging.
@@brysonfry9612 If it was available and not crowded, i used the 350. If there was only one 350 available I would not use it as others can get a much greater advantage from that output than me, but if others aren't around, I use it.
It is best to keep and EV between 20% and 70% generally, but on road trips there is minimal downside for pushing the limits unless you do it all the time, every day.
@@EHermes nice to see you go to cambridge ohio . I have charged there a couple times. West Virginia should get some. The electric company is working with other electric companies to install interstate charging. Lots of hills . I have went thru west vs on my way to Roanoke va for d 3 football title and myrtle beach . You have to be the 1st lightening to go through West Virginia. Even Kyle Connor of out of spec on UA-cam hasn’t done it with the lightening. He did take a bmw i3 from rocky mount to Colorado Thu west va but had to put gas in the 2 gallon range extender to get it. There. I a m impressed with your truck.
Out of Spec guy would regularly take his model 3 to near 0% on roadtrips..watch his videos..car has 100,000 miles on it ...degradation is around 10% or so...pretty normal.
I will stick with my 2021 hybrid as I only have to stop one time in 1200 miles for gas and I am not a Walmart fan and would not want to stop there to charge. I would stop at a hotel with a good restaurant to gas up. This having to follow a map to use charging stations is not for me. Th EV would be great for city use only even though my hybrid get 24-25 mpg in city.
After 1900 miles in my 22 platinum lightning so far, I believe Ford has it fairly nailed but only time will tell. My build date was 4/19/22. Received it 6/6/22.
That two hours at the first charging station was an anomaly only because the state of West Virginia refuses to install any non-Tesla DC fast chargers. On a long road trip like this it is typically 30-40 minutes and costs about $25.00.
…and then there’s “the button” that you can press to milk another emergency 10? But it’s very hard on the battery and ford says don’t do it but a couple times a year.
C’mon, it will be fun. Seriously, you have to really try to not make it. Goodness knows I have tried and come close, but never run out in almost 60,000 miles of electric travel. The on board systems tell you, beg you and nag you to go to a charger well before you run out.
So when gas was $2.50 ,,ish the cost would be much closer and the time saved in a regular f150 would be about 8 hours ,since you could travel at 70 to 80 (,lets say 75) mph in the ICE f150 as well? But gas is now $5...still not sure of the time lost charging and driving slow is worth the $ saved.
You spent over 2 hours to "fuel" up? I get you said you wouldn't normally do that but that's so so so inconvenient. I'd really like to know how long you spent collectively charging throughout this trip and how much you spent on charging on this trip. Also i noticed none of the chargers have over head awnings like a traditional fuel station. I get most people wouldn't do this but if Evs are to replace ICE eventually they have be on par with how convenient they are as well. That's also just my own opinion but i think a lot if not most people would agree with that.
Watching you stop every 250 miles reminds me of when I was in high school driving an old Jeep Cherokee - very inconvenient. I have to say, I've gotten used to my range of 806 miles, although I usually go around 750 between stops.
@@devinmoore1352 For trips I drive my 2020 Ram 2500 with the Cummins Turbo Diesel. It does remarkably well through the mountains of WV (my home state) and I get 26MPG on the highway and 22MPG around town. Although around town I do prefer driving a Toyota Corolla for more economy.
West Virginia lives on Coal BUT still surprised at ZERO but I live in Costal South Carolina which is also a charging desert other than 1 good size 120 Kw Supercharger Station in Myrtle Beach
I know, but you can (not saying you should) make electricity from coal. You can't make gasoline from coal. You don't need a lot of them, just well spaced.
I love the idea of an electric car. I just don't think the battery and charging technology is there yet. At least not for me. I don't want situations that make me plan my entire day or life around my car. Hopefully one day it gets there.
Long road trips do require planning, no doubt about it. But everyday driving couldn't be less complicated (if you own your own home where you charge overnight while you are sleeping).
Man, West Virginia really needs to wake up and join the present. Sounds like they prefer to be left behind stuck in the past. I wonder how long it took them a century ago to switch over to those doggone horseless carriages.
Honestly if and when the world we live in and 80% of vehicles become electric. Charging stations need to be way more out there, and more advanced. They better start working now because that doesn't take overnight..
The US needs far more charging infrastructure ..think of when even 25% of cars are EVs.. you'll need 50 stalls at each stop (or more). I don't think people are thinking about what happens when millions of EVs are on the road. Not everyone will charge at home.
Kind of chicken and egg situation, but as demand increases, I am confident that the infrastructure will grow as well, but I do think it will be somewhat uneven.
Never charge past 85% or so on road trips unless you’re eating a big meal. Just hop to next charger site when you’re charging slower than 45 kW. If you’re eating, then fully charge for sure
2 hours for half a tank of juice? That would suck on a long trip. Every 3 hours of driving, then 2+ hours to juice up. So a 6 hour trip would take 10 hours. No thank you.
I’ve been in a similar situation years ago in my Tesla crossing Kansas in a headwind. Drafting semi truck-trailer rigs helped extend my range significantly between chargers.
And they had to push it to the charging station. They run the same known route with all their tests and get close to the charging station and go back and forth so they are never too far. I do know there is some useable buffer which is why I got to 1-2%.
I dont think you gave the old gas f 150 enough credit at 16 mpg. Even back in the 90 I was getting 18 mpg going to Florida from KY in a 95 chevy pickup. Last year when we went to Florida I averaged 24 mpg in my 2021 gmc sierra with the 5.3
@@EHermes even after a week of driving in florida and returning home and driving a couple of days almost 2000 miles total my average was still at 19.7 mpg
It was stressful just watching this video. Can I notice you skipped out on what the costs is for using a public charging station. In one instance the charger cut off and you said nothing about the costs then showed it was just over 4 bucks when you restarted it. Crazy how stressful it is to drive this truck. I never have this kind of stress driving a Tesla.
It was only stressful that first charge because West Virginia has no non-Tesla DC fast chargers. Other than that, the trip was very similar to the trip I have done multiple times in my Tesla Model Y. In fact, while their stated ranges are about the same (320 ish), I believe the truck’s real range is substantially greater than the Tesla.
On long road trips there are challenges. In day to day use when you charged at home every night, wake up to a full charge every morning and drive in comfort, quiet and performance, it can’t be beat. Never going back to a gas powered vehicle.
You're video isn't great for promoting traveling in your EV. You're trip may have cost less per mile, but too much time was spent fueling. I'm glad I chose the Powerboost.
That video, particularly the second leg of my trip, does highlight the lack of infrastructure in one spot in the country (the Adirondack mountains of New York and the upper great plains are the others), but they are the exception not the rule. I believe that with one charger somewhere in the state of West Virginia I would have save an hour and the trip would have added 2 hours instead of 3 to what I used to do it in. There is no doubt it adds time to a long trip. However, I never go to a gas station, ever. You may not think about it but it takes 10 minutes or so when you do go save all those 10 minutes throughout the year because I usually fuel up in my garage.
I have since had the opportunity to road trip with a friend in a Lightning. Not as long as this trip, but it was all day one way. Overall, it wasn't bad. Not bad at all. The trip did take longer than a gas vehicle. But... For me it was actually nice to stop every couple of hours to stretch. I wouldn't do this in a gas vehicle. On our trip we were able to run down to and charge in the 20-80% range so our down time was at the minimum. We encountered only one troublesome charging station.
You could've just got a little bump at the 50kw's in WV. Might have been a little quicker...Charge until you hit 50 at the previous stop and then just get a quick top off in WV.
@@EHermes I must have heard you wrong. I thought you said there was a couple in WV. I guess it was just that 29kw unit. Really impressed the truck went the 262 miles at 90something %
I don't mind electric stuff, i actually prefer it but not in my vehicles. I have assortment of garden/ yard tool that are battery operated including my mower. Love it but i just don't think our infrastructure is ready for EVs yet.
@@EHermes It may be getting better but it's still nowhere even close to being ready. The closest EV charger to me is over 100 miles away according to Google. I know you can have one at your house obviously, but still. What if my charger malfunctions during the night and doesn't charge or something and there are no chargers close to me that I can use as backup? Now I'm stuck without a vehicle. Until there is a proper infrastructure, I'll stick with gas.
I agree that at least some electricity still comes from coal and West Virgina does not produce any meaningful oil, so EV's would be better for their immediate economic interests. Mine mostly run on solar but some certainly run on coal fired electricity.
@@EHermes I’m fine with EVs if the marketplace wants to buy them. Most power plants are going Nat gas anyway. My Ford Lightning is supposed to come next week, so I’ve enjoyed watching all your videos to get ready. Drove a demo for a week and loved it. I have a 50 amp outlet at my driveway on a 100 amp dedicated circuit. So, looking forward to the 80 amp Ford Charger Pro arriving in a few weeks. Will probably go for the Intelligent Power house power thing, but it’s expensive! But no more than a good generator. Thanks for your good work on these vids!
Nice video, but I suspect most folks like myself will use this truck as a daily driver. I’ll be using it to drive to/from work, run errands, take kids to ball practice, tote my kayak to a from the lakes in this area for a little fishing, take the family camping and making occasional trips to the Home Depot for bags of mulch and dirt.
Then you may not want to spend the additional cost for the extended range battery pack and all the other upgrades you need to take to get the extended battery.
@@EHermes will take under consideration.
Saved money except on the extra 15000 for the truck and extra 4 hrs(time is money) of charging time. And of course you lost 7hrs of vacation time where you could have been sitting on the beach(6hrs charging - 2 from comparable gas stops + 3hrs for driving at 60mph vs 75. Sell it and get a gas truck. And dont forget about the higher insurance youre paying on an EV.
I think you're making a few too many presumptions of @MrBigBoy4Life's driving habits there, Ed.
This is great. I agree that while most ppl will use this truck as a daily, even small businesses, for very local runs and deliveries seeing as how EV/BEV trucks are on the rise, it’s VERY important that they improve to the point of being as practical as their gas and diesel counterparts! Honestly I find it ridiculous to pay upwards of $90k for a mid-range or considerable amount over $120k for a top-tier EV truck just to run errands, to/from work, etc. etc. and it’s just basically a “cool looking”(always plugged-in & charging) driveway ornament! For that money, one should be able to use it like a truck and enjoy long distance road trips, and heavy hauls without time or severe distance restraints!
This is the best real world range test yet. Well done.
Thank you!
That video should come with a warning: Caution High Anxiety and Stressful Scenes!!
As an EV owner, watching you eek out those last few miles TWICE was a bit stressful. You were calm and confident though. No fear!
Nice truck!
We will be waiting for part 2 of this road trip.
All of this "excitement" is about to be gone when they can all charge at Tesla Superchargers
10:30 arriving with 4% is amazing. Great work optimizing on that leg.
Great video, looking forward to the slow trip back home video.
This has to be one of the first Lightening trips on UA-cam. Well done sir.
3rd....another UA-camr went from Detroit to Colorado...another ran in circles around Denver until he ran the battery empty
@@alexzabala2154 I watched that one as well. That was a range test though and not a road trip...but The Fast Lane Truck or TFLEV posted the first road trip with the lightening (at least Part 1) prior to this.
Ha!
Liked the video. Honest and informative. Thank you.
Ford is coming for the EV top spot. I can only imagine it’s only up from here. Great video I have a Mach E on order for the wife and after this video I’ll be buying the lighting.
Good luck they’re sold out
Not anymore
Great video. Can you please cover more of the charging metrics when you stop? I would love to see what time you plug in, what kind of charging speeds you’re getting at different battery percentages, what time you unplug, etc. Thanks and can’t wait for the next video.
Really great video! I certainly enjoyed riding along with you down to Florida :) I'm getting ready to take my brand new lightning PRO on a 1400 mile trip through several Western states! The southwest to the west has a lot more fast charging stations... The fast charging infrastructures has developed quite nicely in this area of the country. So I don't expect the challenges that you encountered, however this vehicle has a standard range battery! So I'm gonna be probably a little more frequent in regards to how many stops I make. I think getting below 10% would make me a little nervous - given it's such a long trip! Obviously the closer I get to the destination, better I'll feel! :) Anyway thanks for the video! This is such an inspiration as I head out on this adventure!!
It is not whether you can find a charger, it is a question of whether it will work. Enjoy your trip; the truck is wonderful.
Nice trip! Bummer about WV, but like you said later, you’ve got the big battery so may as well use it. Glad to hear the F150’s a good road tripper.
Great video!
Here's the question.....not can you make it one charger to the next but, how long did you spend at the Sheetz in Withvillle to go from 4% to 70%?
Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Just finished a 28 hour, 1,300 mile trip. Video should post in next few days.
Great video summary for such a long ride. Also very helpful information, at the end especially, for those new to electric vehicles.
I stumbled across your channel when searching for U-Haul towing … I’m now subscribed and have been enjoying the rest of your content. No nonsense. To the point.
Thanks for taking the time to do it.
Thank you for subscribing!
Quite impressive it actually achieved its range with normal highway driving and foul weather
It did?
Reduced speeds greatly increases range. Going 60mph that first stretch instead of 70mph was huge for him. Can tell it isn't his first time driving an EV
I’m in Dover Ohio and just got my 22 platinum lightning three weeks ago! So nice to see your video on a Trip. I wanted to drive mine to Illinois next Friday but I think I’m gonna chicken out because okawville Illinois is like 72 miles from the last charger on the way…I’m having range anxiety just thinking about it lol I decided to take my Powerstroke…I have a 12’ flatbed trailer to take there and back so I don’t want to chance my range.
Platinum has extended range battery? What are you towing?
E-Hermes yes, platinum is standard with ext range battery. It’s just a12’ flat bed trailer that I’ll be hauling a 400lb old neon sign back to Ohio to restore and hang up in my shop! I think I’m gonna take my 21 f150 lariat 3.5 ecoboost just because it’s so much softer and plush lol And I plan to idle it about 10 hours in two days for AC for my dog that will be with me!
4:20 yes, WV 50 kW charging is slow, but it’s only 1/3 the speed of electrify America 150 kW. So 15-80 charge would be 1.5 hours instead of 40 minutes, still doable when towing, just makes the trip slower
Honestly looked like a good trip. I’m concerned with being in outside sales that I really need to have a lot of range. I may only have to wait for the 2nd gen lightning to get closer to the 4-450 mile extended range battery
Or you could get the Silverado EV that starts at 300 mile range
Or wait for Ram EV supposed to have up to 500 miles range
@@gregb9264 both very viable options
@@gregb9264 or buy a gas truck.
@@Gumballs66 gas cost 4x sometimes even 5x what it cost to drive an EV and charge @ home
Gas is getting phased out by hybrid and EV and I’m all for it
And I own a 2014 Silverado V8 w 164k miles but after owning it a few years you care less about the exhaust noises and more about the savings and environment tbh
Also I like the idea of hydrogen fuel cell and other alternatives that will eventually come (hydrogen too expensive right now tho)
If someone put a fast charger in Beckley I feel like they make good money there since it's half way through WV
Beckley or Charleston, either one would for both north/south and east/west drivers.
I love EV road trip videos. It seems like the F-150 Lightning is a pretty good road trip vehicle,
It really is incredibly comfortable. I’ve only gone on a 247 mile round trip in my platinum lightning as the farthest in one day, but at some point soon I’ll get brave enough to stray farther lol This thing is honestly the best truck Ford has ever made in my opinion…and I’ve owned a lot of new Ford trucks in the last 8 years.
Love Charlotte! It is a great city. That is our usual stop on our way home from Florida. Hope you make time to check it out a bit. 😊
“Anything above 5% is bad form” - I agree!
I enjoy the recording while you are driving on the interstate. I was REALLY curious about the interior noise.
I will be posting a new one of a 1,300 mile trip in the next few days. Truck is really quiet so the noise you are hearing might be from the recording equipment.
This was great. Thanks.
Thank you for watching
Great video! Please do another video on your way back home
Should’ve stopped at the new Circle K 180kW DCFC in Rock Hill, SC just off I-77 past Charlotte.
Thanks for the video. If possible I would like to see more charging videos showing the charge rate & cost.
The one big thing that originally got me interested in EVs was knowing that the “fuel” was made locally supporting American jobs. Oil/gas comes from all over the world and i hate the idea of any of my money leaving the country.
I wish we could track gas and stations could verify American gas at stations.
Love this Ford Lighting!
20:45 two percent range?!? The boss!! Way to plan that leg of the trip
Took my Telsa to zero range one time, but that was near my house.
It is pretty easy to control your range (within reason) by modulating your speed. A few miles an hour make a huge difference.
just catching this video now, how was your experience at all the EA stations overall?
Generally pretty good. For some reason, chargers on east/west trips seem to work much better than chargers on north/south trips on I-77 and I-75, but that may just be a snapshot in time.
12:50 nice to hear the Ford Lightning charging curve is good even up to 75%
Tell me an EV that doesn’t have a fast charging curve to 80%? What’s impressive is those that do above 80% and are 400-800v systems
great info and thanks for taking the time to make the video and post it. i hope to be able to make a few when my truck shows this summer. my only desire would be to see more video of the charging sessions, but as you mentioned, you were doing other things while charging. can you share how many actual minutes the truck sat on the chargers, from the EA summary emails you have ? i am guessing about 200 or so, given the total KW's you used.
Except for that first session, most sessions are 30-40 ,imutes.
@@EHermes gotcha. 10-15 to 80% in my mach e GT takes a little longer. i figured the lightning would be a bit faster real world, based on other videos and your info.
@@evquietcornerct3210 I'm surprised. Lightning has a 130 kWh battery. I believe Mach-E is around 70. I thought their charging speeds were similar.
@@EHermes mach e battery 99KW, 91KW usable in the larger pack. my lightning will be a platinum, so i am losing some range due to the 22's. and the BMS software is s little different in the lightning, i think. it holds well over 100KW deeper into the pack, mainly due to the larger pack size on the extended range variant.
Interesting how even one additional DC charger in the middle of West Virginia would make things way better.
Then I could charge to 70% in Cambridge in 20 minutes, stop again in say Charleston for another 20 minutes and then stop in Wytheville. 40 minutes of charging instead of 2 hours to get to 100% in Cambridge and drive 60 mph to make sure I make it through WV.
@@EHermes must be a regulatory affairs matter. I think West Virginia is a hard core State?
I take it back...that was awesome...a little tense but awesome.
Good old Cambridge oh I have been there several years times
Enjoyed the EV road-trip. I’m a sucker for long distance driving. The longer, the better! … Love that Ford Lightning! 😎🛻
Well stay tuned, we are about to release the 1,700-mile, 8-day, seven-night return trip.
how come the amount of time spent charging comes up? you are correct only 6 hrs of charging that is nothing, maybe a nights sleep lol
How long did it take you to get there? Trying to figure out if that WSJ article was BS
32 hours. Slept 6 hours, charged (peed, shopped, ate) for 6 hours.
So what I am hearing is that megawatt battery packs are the long-term goal for cross country runs.
If you never want to stop, yes. More likely more efficient batteries with much shorter charging times.
Every time I charge I shop in the stores at the charger. It’s a smart idea for a business to add some chargers.
Backup takes a long trip high efficient small Honda generator 240v was used twice charging station was down. PLAN B Stress release.
My backup is a commercial campground. Even in the most remote areas you are seldom far from a private campground/RV park with a 50 amp outlet.
How many hours did that took you since you left your home till your destination?
Too long. Long then be in a gas car.
@@fathercook yeah for sure thats why electric vehicles aren't ready for this time yet or long trips specially my case since i travel to mexico twice a month 1200 miles and theres no chargers in mexico my truck i only stop one time to fill up 36 gallons f150 takes me 16 hrs to get to my destination
32 hours total including 6 hours when I stopped to sleep.
@@EHermes wow definitely electric not for me it takes me 16hrs to drive 1200 miles 1 fuel up and 4 stops total for walk n restroom use
How long did it take you to charge when the battery was at 4%?
Thanks for convincing me not to buy a fully EV.
We will never go back to gasoline powered vehicles, but you do what is best for you.
@@EHermes I know EV is an option IF you drive little and never take long trips. The ONLY way to go right now is hybrid and Toyota and Honda REFUSING to go "ALL IN" Like GM Fools and are going for Hydrogen or something other than the FULL EV B.S. There are MANY vids of people who are VERY discusted by being SCAMMED into a FULL EV Truck only to get to charge stations that are broken, and since it's ONLY EV, they have the vehicle TOWED to the dealer.
People are starting to WAKE UP after buying one for a LONG trip. Sad.
@@henryhill3778 I drive about 50,000 miles a year between our two EV's and I couldn't be happier, but you do you. I don't think anyone is scammed; some folks may regret their decision, but maybe EV's just aren't right for them either.
It would only take 40 extra minutes for the whole trip to go through Cincinnati, you could easily make that up with shorter charging times and have backup options in case the only charger around is full or not working.
40 extra minutes for what?
@@EHermes I copied your trip and modified it to travel I75 through Cincinnati and skip W Virginia like you said you'd do if you were pulling a trailer and it estimates that the trip would take 40 minutes longer than the one you took. That one charge that took you 2 hours cost you at least 40 minutes.
@@mikemorin76 ua-cam.com/video/FMwSM_-f7No/v-deo.html. I did that trip. While the chargers were placed much more evenly spaced, they were in terrible condition.
What was the average time it took the truck to get from Below 5% to 80% on the fast chargers?
I have a spreadsheet, but it does not cut and past well. From 8% to 86% took 30 minutes; From 22% to 85% took 51 minutes so it depends on the charger location.
@@EHermes at the EA stations did you always connect to a 350 KW if it was available? Obviously the truck does over 150 KW sometimes when charging so would definitely not want to just use a 150 if there is a 350 available. I wonder if that changed the time any when charging.
@@brysonfry9612 If it was available and not crowded, i used the 350. If there was only one 350 available I would not use it as others can get a much greater advantage from that output than me, but if others aren't around, I use it.
Nice trip. It was my belief that it’s not best practice to draw below 20% charge on a regular basis.
We’ve road tripped our nearly 10 year old Tesla and gone down to 7% most of the legs of big trips. Still have 95% battery capacity.
It is best to keep and EV between 20% and 70% generally, but on road trips there is minimal downside for pushing the limits unless you do it all the time, every day.
@@EHermes nice to see you go to cambridge ohio . I have charged there a couple times. West Virginia should get some. The electric company is working with other electric companies to install interstate charging. Lots of hills . I have went thru west vs on my way to Roanoke va for d 3 football title and myrtle beach . You have to be the 1st lightening to go through West Virginia. Even Kyle Connor of out of spec on UA-cam hasn’t done it with the lightening. He did take a bmw i3 from rocky mount to Colorado Thu west va but had to put gas in the 2 gallon range extender to get it. There. I a m impressed with your truck.
Out of Spec guy would regularly take his model 3 to near 0% on roadtrips..watch his videos..car has 100,000 miles on it ...degradation is around 10% or so...pretty normal.
I will stick with my 2021 hybrid as I only have to stop one time in 1200 miles for gas and I am not a Walmart fan and would not want to stop there to charge. I would stop at a hotel with a good restaurant to gas up. This having to follow a map to use charging stations is not for me. Th EV would be great for city use only even though my hybrid get 24-25 mpg in city.
What hybrid do you have
@@vspinkboi f150 ford guard bumper. Fox shocks 2 inch lift. Will install 100 hp tune when available
@@JCL43 lok
Wait so is the 320 mile range at 100% charge?
Or is the 320 mile range 80% charge?
The range, and the range the vehicle calculates, is based on your driving. The 320 mile range is not for 70-80 mph highway use.
Good truck for everyday use
Oh man, 2 hour charge-time.....I'm not ready for this technology
This was an anomaly. Usual charge is 30-40 minutes.
What was the average miles between charges?
About 250 miles
It’s nice to see all these new EVs. Personally, like my electronics, never purchase 1st or 2nd generation. I wait for 3rd iteration of things.
After 1900 miles in my 22 platinum lightning so far, I believe Ford has it fairly nailed but only time will tell. My build date was 4/19/22. Received it 6/6/22.
That's crazy that there is no charging in West Virginia
To be clear, there are chargers, just no DC fast chargers.
What is the cost of these charge stations…two hours in a Walmart yuck!
That two hours at the first charging station was an anomaly only because the state of West Virginia refuses to install any non-Tesla DC fast chargers. On a long road trip like this it is typically 30-40 minutes and costs about $25.00.
Specs of truck?
Ford F-150 Lightning Extended Range Battery, Lariat Edition, Equipment Package 511-A, factory spray in bed liner.
guys remember. his truck is almost 90k.
From other videos i have seen on the lighting there is roughly an 8 mile buffer after you hit zero.
…and then there’s “the button” that you can press to milk another emergency 10? But it’s very hard on the battery and ford says don’t do it but a couple times a year.
6 hrs vs's 40 seconds, let me think. I guess it takes 6 hrs to eat. Hahaha
So owning one of these things is like a game, lets call it "Will I Make It or Not."
C’mon, it will be fun. Seriously, you have to really try to not make it. Goodness knows I have tried and come close, but never run out in almost 60,000 miles of electric travel. The on board systems tell you, beg you and nag you to go to a charger well before you run out.
Same game when you're running on fumes in the middle of nowhere.
So when gas was $2.50 ,,ish the cost would be much closer and the time saved in a regular f150 would be about 8 hours ,since you could travel at 70 to 80 (,lets say 75) mph in the ICE f150 as well? But gas is now $5...still not sure of the time lost charging and driving slow is worth the $ saved.
Most charging occurs at home at about 1/3 the cost of DC fast chargers on the road.
Crazy video seeing how in 3 months this island would be destroyed by hurricane Ian
And the Lightning saved the day then too: ua-cam.com/video/Qz9NIMSXWok/v-deo.html
what a hassle lol
You spent over 2 hours to "fuel" up? I get you said you wouldn't normally do that but that's so so so inconvenient. I'd really like to know how long you spent collectively charging throughout this trip and how much you spent on charging on this trip. Also i noticed none of the chargers have over head awnings like a traditional fuel station.
I get most people wouldn't do this but if Evs are to replace ICE eventually they have be on par with how convenient they are as well. That's also just my own opinion but i think a lot if not most people would agree with that.
End of the video I describe the statistics for the trip.
@@EHermes i will re watch
@@vspinkboi Cool
Sounds like Electrify America strikes again.
Take it down to 1% lol! Then pull in and find charge station is temporarily out of order...Here's Your Sign!
Watching you stop every 250 miles reminds me of when I was in high school driving an old Jeep Cherokee - very inconvenient. I have to say, I've gotten used to my range of 806 miles, although I usually go around 750 between stops.
What do you drive with that kind of range if you dont mind?
Clearly you have a far superior bladder.
I could not imagine driving more then 200 or 300 miles without stopping ice or electric car.
@@EHermes It's a challenge lol
@@devinmoore1352 For trips I drive my 2020 Ram 2500 with the Cummins Turbo Diesel. It does remarkably well through the mountains of WV (my home state) and I get 26MPG on the highway and 22MPG around town. Although around town I do prefer driving a Toyota Corolla for more economy.
Seems illogical that a company selling EVs wouldn’t make sure to have charging stations at each dealership.
Most of them have a charger, but it is a level 2, 8kW typically. Fine overnight but not great to get you back on the road.
In order for a dealership to be allowed by Ford to sell an EV, they must have a level 2 charger on premises
West Virginia lives on Coal BUT still surprised at ZERO but I live in Costal South Carolina which is also a charging desert other than 1 good size 120 Kw Supercharger Station in Myrtle Beach
I know, but you can (not saying you should) make electricity from coal. You can't make gasoline from coal. You don't need a lot of them, just well spaced.
[0:47] amazing.
Tesla Superchargers work now YAY!!!
I love the idea of an electric car. I just don't think the battery and charging technology is there yet. At least not for me. I don't want situations that make me plan my entire day or life around my car. Hopefully one day it gets there.
Long road trips do require planning, no doubt about it. But everyday driving couldn't be less complicated (if you own your own home where you charge overnight while you are sleeping).
Man, West Virginia really needs to wake up and join the present. Sounds like they prefer to be left behind stuck in the past. I wonder how long it took them a century ago to switch over to those doggone horseless carriages.
Not surprised that WV has no DC fast chargers. They are still big coal.
which is stupid because u use coal to make electricity..so that could fuel evs.
@@mistermister2085 Coal electric plants are still cleaner than thousands of internal combustion engines running around.
You are good at planning your route.....I liked how you handle Virginia!!!!
How can I get in contact with you?
ehermes87@gmail.com
Honestly if and when the world we live in and
80% of vehicles become electric. Charging stations need to be way more out there, and more advanced. They better start working now because that doesn't take overnight..
Way too much stress for me, I will wait for longer range batteries and better charging infrastructure before I would consider switching to EV
I will keep my Ram 1500 ecodiesel, over 700 miles range no having to travel looking for charging stations.
I feel what you’re saying but filled up at $7 a gallon yesterday so it definitely had me considering electric for a daily
Wow, you can drive 10 straight hours without eating, drinking, stretching your legs, or taking a leak and don't mind a $150 fill up. You rock!
@@ohger1 Only when you definitely, positively have to be there, on time 👍.
Amen, brother.
On a good day my eco 2015 gets about 550 miles on a full tank. How do you get 700?
The US needs far more charging infrastructure ..think of when even 25% of cars are EVs.. you'll need 50 stalls at each stop (or more). I don't think people are thinking about what happens when millions of EVs are on the road. Not everyone will charge at home.
Kind of chicken and egg situation, but as demand increases, I am confident that the infrastructure will grow as well, but I do think it will be somewhat uneven.
Never charge past 85% or so on road trips unless you’re eating a big meal. Just hop to next charger site when you’re charging slower than 45 kW. If you’re eating, then fully charge for sure
He couldn’t in West Virginia
He didn’t have a choice
You should have went to the 50 kw charger as it would have been faster as you would pull the full 50 kw and also keep a faster road speed.
There is no 50 kW charger. There might be a 25-30 kW charger, but even that is uncertain.
2 hours for half a tank of juice? That would suck on a long trip. Every 3 hours of driving, then 2+ hours to juice up. So a 6 hour trip would take 10 hours. No thank you.
This was an anomaly. Usual charge is 30-40 minutes. One DC fast charger in West Virgina and we would be golden.
You should be drafting big trucks.
I'd rather just set the adaptive cruise control and let the truck do its thing.
I’ve been in a similar situation years ago in my Tesla crossing Kansas in a headwind. Drafting semi truck-trailer rigs helped extend my range significantly between chargers.
@@treborg777 Oh yes, I do not doubt the efficiency gain.
Without that Tesla super charger network, these long road trips are bad anxiety fuel.
A passive aggressive move in coal country?
West Virginia shame!
Remember you do have a buffer once you hit zero. Watch out of spec range test.
And they had to push it to the charging station. They run the same known route with all their tests and get close to the charging station and go back and forth so they are never too far. I do know there is some useable buffer which is why I got to 1-2%.
I dont think you gave the old gas f 150 enough credit at 16 mpg. Even back in the 90 I was getting 18 mpg going to Florida from KY in a 95 chevy pickup. Last year when we went to Florida I averaged 24 mpg in my 2021 gmc sierra with the 5.3
What speed do you drive?
@@EHermes depends on the traffic but usually 5 to 10 mph over the speed limit.
@@TheTtacket02 I never got close to that with my 2016 F-150.
@@EHermes even after a week of driving in florida and returning home and driving a couple of days almost 2000 miles total my average was still at 19.7 mpg
It was stressful just watching this video. Can I notice you skipped out on what the costs is for using a public charging station. In one instance the charger cut off and you said nothing about the costs then showed it was just over 4 bucks when you restarted it. Crazy how stressful it is to drive this truck. I never have this kind of stress driving a Tesla.
It was only stressful that first charge because West Virginia has no non-Tesla DC fast chargers. Other than that, the trip was very similar to the trip I have done multiple times in my Tesla Model Y. In fact, while their stated ranges are about the same (320 ish), I believe the truck’s real range is substantially greater than the Tesla.
Wouldn’t have one if you gave it to me! Total hassle
On long road trips there are challenges. In day to day use when you charged at home every night, wake up to a full charge every morning and drive in comfort, quiet and performance, it can’t be beat. Never going back to a gas powered vehicle.
You're video isn't great for promoting traveling in your EV. You're trip may have cost less per mile, but too much time was spent fueling. I'm glad I chose the Powerboost.
That video, particularly the second leg of my trip, does highlight the lack of infrastructure in one spot in the country (the Adirondack mountains of New York and the upper great plains are the others), but they are the exception not the rule. I believe that with one charger somewhere in the state of West Virginia I would have save an hour and the trip would have added 2 hours instead of 3 to what I used to do it in. There is no doubt it adds time to a long trip. However, I never go to a gas station, ever. You may not think about it but it takes 10 minutes or so when you do go save all those 10 minutes throughout the year because I usually fuel up in my garage.
I have since had the opportunity to road trip with a friend in a Lightning. Not as long as this trip, but it was all day one way. Overall, it wasn't bad. Not bad at all.
The trip did take longer than a gas vehicle. But... For me it was actually nice to stop every couple of hours to stretch. I wouldn't do this in a gas vehicle. On our trip we were able to run down to and charge in the 20-80% range so our down time was at the minimum. We encountered only one troublesome charging station.
every 50 miles!!!
That is a silly take
Hook up a trailer and see how far you go 🤣
Depends on the trailer
BTW it's pronounced with-ville VA.
You could've just got a little bump at the 50kw's in WV. Might have been a little quicker...Charge until you hit 50 at the previous stop and then just get a quick top off in WV.
+1!!
Please tell me where the 50kW charger is in West Virginia. I cannot find one anywhere.
@@EHermes I must have heard you wrong. I thought you said there was a couple in WV. I guess it was just that 29kw unit. Really impressed the truck went the 262 miles at 90something %
Just that one 26kW and there is some doubt about its operation. I am checking it out on the return trip. Stay tuned
I don't mind electric stuff, i actually prefer it but not in my vehicles. I have assortment of garden/ yard tool that are battery operated including my mower. Love it but i just don't think our infrastructure is ready for EVs yet.
The infrastructure is getting better every day.
@@EHermes It may be getting better but it's still nowhere even close to being ready. The closest EV charger to me is over 100 miles away according to Google. I know you can have one at your house obviously, but still. What if my charger malfunctions during the night and doesn't charge or something and there are no chargers close to me that I can use as backup? Now I'm stuck without a vehicle. Until there is a proper infrastructure, I'll stick with gas.
DONT CHARGE FROM 80-100% IF YOU DO T HAVE TO. Takes 40 minutes to charge from 10-80% and AN HOUR FROM 80-100!
Ironic that West Virginia has no fast chargers, since all EVs run on coal.
I agree that at least some electricity still comes from coal and West Virgina does not produce any meaningful oil, so EV's would be better for their immediate economic interests. Mine mostly run on solar but some certainly run on coal fired electricity.
@@EHermes I’m fine with EVs if the marketplace wants to buy them. Most power plants are going Nat gas anyway. My Ford Lightning is supposed to come next week, so I’ve enjoyed watching all your videos to get ready. Drove a demo for a week and loved it.
I have a 50 amp outlet at my driveway on a 100 amp dedicated circuit. So, looking forward to the 80 amp Ford Charger Pro arriving in a few weeks. Will probably go for the Intelligent Power house power thing, but it’s expensive! But no more than a good generator.
Thanks for your good work on these vids!