with my PRO and with over 15,000 miles and LOT of travel, and much with my camper, I typically use the FordPass app to Active a charger when I am arriving, whether EA, or Chargepoint, or EVgo...and what I like about the FordPass app is that FORD charges me for the power, NOT the Charge providers, and there is no 'balance' resets that they typically do when you drop below a certain $5 level, etc, within your account. Ford also sends you an email, and/or a text, for the time/kwh/charge and totals. This has nothing to do with the 'free' EA charging when you first get your vehicle, it's just the built-in method to start charging, basically a 'plug-n-charge' within your FordPass app. Love it.
I found this video more informative than many of the "professional" reviews. Thanks for taking the time. I drive a Tesla, but I'm always willing to try new and different EVs.
Glad you’re having a good trip so far and good weather. Be careful you’ve got some severe weather coming up ahead of you, so take your time and be safe.
Just a beautiful drive through Tennessee. Prior to my mother passing I'd make two trips from central Illinois to Cleveland TN every year. It was right at a 12 hour drive for me stopping for gas and a couple rest stops.
Hello Dave. Very interesting to see your experiences with the Electrify America charging network and the Ford Lightning so far on this trip. I’ve also watched your previous videos on your experiences with the EA charging network and your Ford Mach-E. When I compare your previous experiences with the Tesla Supercharging network and your Tesla’s, along with my experiences with the Tesla Supercharging network and my Tesla’s, it pretty clear the best reliability and performance goes to Tesla and its Supercharging network. I really enjoy your road trip videos. Safe travels, Jeff.
Another fun video Dave, thanks for sharing! Interesting how different a Ford EV trip is compared to a Tesla one, and definitely requires a lot more planning, but still doable.
I'm a fellow Lightning Lariat ER owner but EV Dave needs to cheer up. Don't be sad. You know in advance EA will be questionable. I did get 183 Kw on a new EA BTC 350 unit at 40% SOC at 45 F, so they can sometimes work. We are off on a 3,500 mile 6 week trip to FL end of March in our Lightning.
Excellent video. Especially from a Tesla owner who can compare the two experiences. It's great to see the charges prices, which are very reasonable where you are traveling. And also great to see more and more of your generation accepting and adopting the EV experience, as oppose those out there who are much less willing to try new things and listen to the wrong crowd.
My limit between charging stops is 100 to a max of 150 miles. The car can do much more but I need a break long before it does. I can also just take a road break but it’s nice to combine the two needs into one stop. I also don’t drive 600 miles in a day unless I absolutely have to. That shows where I am.
I admit I haven't watched all of your videos, but concurrent with the range issue is how long does each recharge stop take, time wise. Would help us non-EV types to understand the issues. I know I can fill my Subaru Ascent with 400+ miles of gas in under 5 minutes. You give percents but no times to compare with. Thanks.
The Ford charges slow as compared to Teslas, probably 30-40% due to its design. What ICE drivers usually ignore is time to do other needed things during trip that takes time. Eating, using the restroom and taking a breaks. During charge times you can do these things without having to park after the 5 minute fill up. If your bladder is giant you simply hold it until you gas up every 7-8 hours of driving non stop. I try to show start and stop chargers times, I’ll try to make it more pronounced.
thank you EV Dave- quick question for you on the dashcam/security features of the Lightning. Is it your long term goal to install a dashcam/security cam for the truck?
Are you retired? If your family was with you, would that be an issue? If it was 20 degrees all day, is it still the same charging/stop time? Thank you, hope you’re well.
Hi Dan, it is a fact that I am retired and no having my family with me is not a problem. Depending on what EV you’re planning or are driving depends a lot on how far it will go on a charge and at what temperature. In the winter time the vehicle uses more energy to keep you warm. Just like an internal combustion engine vehicle would. In my trips at 20°. I think the range for a 320 mile Tesla model Y is around 170 to 200 miles per charge. In the hot weather that seem range will be 185 to 270 miles but there’s a lot of factors such as wind and terrain that change that. The exact same physics act on internal combustion engine vehicles as well. If you’re driving a Tesla, unlike some of the other EV brands it calculates your route and your charge stops based upon all of these factors. You know I like to say that my preference is to stop between 170 and 240 miles my bladder likes it the best. That’s between 2 1/2 and four hours of driving. If you were going to be driving a non-Tesla EV they do not perform as well and therefore it is more cumbersome to drive in a non-tesla EV only because Tesla vehicles are highly engineered and every little range enhancing feature has been designed in it and they drive wonderful what do I say? I hope this answers some of your questions. Dan have a look at my videos being an engineer. I am not a salesman I only show you what the vehicle does and how easy it is to drive a modern and electric vehicle like a Tesla. I hope this answers some of your questions.
The newer Apple iPhone software updates pull data from the vehicle on my Mach-e and shows state of charge at the destination when using Apple Maps. That doesn’t happen with the lightning?
No one does road trips like you Dave. If you want to know the reality of road tripping in an EV this is the place to come. I'm sure you are (like me) anxious to add a CyberTruck to your EV collection. My guess is it will be bye bye Lightening once the CT arrives.
Hey Dave, Derek from HSCC, can you tell me when you charge the lighting to 80 percent does the range always stay the same? Im looking at and used F150 and the range seems way off for and extended range at 53% it shows 135 miles
Eric, above 60 degrees the extended range battery will show 320 at 100 percent. 80 percent showed I think about 287ish . If you drive 60-65 you will get that range and it’s about 2 miles per kWh
When using the EA app, your account is charged for energy used. Why didn’t you use plug-N-charge to take advantage of Ford’s free charging that comes with Lightning? Isn’t free better? Lightning needs an over the update to improve charging information.
The charging experience is what is keeping me from going electric. I know the Tesla charging system is much better, but I would prefer a truck, and the Tesla truck is not my thing.
564 miles trip. Charged 5 times PLUS the initial charge at home. 6 charges. 564/6 = 94 miles per charge. About 45 - 60 min per charge = 270 - 300 min sitting at the charging stations. ICE initial fillup, 20 min.....plus 1 - 2 other fill-ups.....20 - 40 min. Using round numbers, 300 min EV vs 60 min ICE sitting at charging/gas stations. EV takes 5 times as long to "refuel" on long trips, using generally round numbers. EV fabulous for around town......not so great for longer trips.
Shouldn't charge beyond 80 percent. Even if you get 290 at 100 percent real-world miles and only 80% after that. Say 232 miles. It should only take you to charge maybe 2.5 as long. So roughly 40 mins x three is no more than 120 mins total. So, twice as long but half the price of fuel, not 5x as long. State of Charge channel proof that this truck fluctuates in charges and it's normal. 😅
What a really shitty way to drive then wait an hr for a charge then have to worry where your next charge will be ...gas is still the way and lightning is a major scam
with my PRO and with over 15,000 miles and LOT of travel, and much with my camper, I typically use the FordPass app to Active a charger when I am arriving, whether EA, or Chargepoint, or EVgo...and what I like about the FordPass app is that FORD charges me for the power, NOT the Charge providers, and there is no 'balance' resets that they typically do when you drop below a certain $5 level, etc, within your account. Ford also sends you an email, and/or a text, for the time/kwh/charge and totals.
This has nothing to do with the 'free' EA charging when you first get your vehicle, it's just the built-in method to start charging, basically a 'plug-n-charge' within your FordPass app. Love it.
I do enjoy seeing how to use the navigation and locating chargers.
I found this video more informative than many of the "professional" reviews. Thanks for taking the time. I drive a Tesla, but I'm always willing to try new and different EVs.
Glad you’re having a good trip so far and good weather. Be careful you’ve got some severe weather coming up ahead of you, so take your time and be safe.
Just a beautiful drive through Tennessee. Prior to my mother passing I'd make two trips from central Illinois to Cleveland TN every year. It was right at a 12 hour drive for me stopping for gas and a couple rest stops.
Hello Dave. Very interesting to see your experiences with the Electrify America charging network and the Ford Lightning so far on this trip. I’ve also watched your previous videos on your experiences with the EA charging network and your Ford Mach-E. When I compare your previous experiences with the Tesla Supercharging network and your Tesla’s, along with my experiences with the Tesla Supercharging network and my Tesla’s, it pretty clear the best reliability and performance goes to Tesla and its Supercharging network.
I really enjoy your road trip videos. Safe travels, Jeff.
Really great video Dave. Thank you. Drive safe...
good video Dave glad the weather is holding up for you.
Another fun video Dave, thanks for sharing! Interesting how different a Ford EV trip is compared to a Tesla one, and definitely requires a lot more planning, but still doable.
I'm a fellow Lightning Lariat ER owner but EV Dave needs to cheer up. Don't be sad. You know in advance EA will be questionable. I did get 183 Kw on a new EA BTC 350 unit at 40% SOC at 45 F, so they can sometimes work. We are off on a 3,500 mile 6 week trip to FL end of March in our Lightning.
Excellent video. Especially from a Tesla owner who can compare the two experiences. It's great to see the charges prices, which are very reasonable where you are traveling. And also great to see more and more of your generation accepting and adopting the EV experience, as oppose those out there who are much less willing to try new things and listen to the wrong crowd.
I’m only here for the range anxiety and frustration with EA chargers…
You came to the RIGHT PLACE
Interesting, it’s a pickup with a tow capability of 10,000#, a trip like this with a 10K box trailer would be entertaining…
@@henrycolie1220 you'd be stopping every 50 miles to charge
31 minutes just to find out how long it took you charge the vehicle at tha stores and no mention
2010 called and wants their AppleCarPlay back😂😂😂😂😂 Savage EV Dave😎😎😎
Did you have all the charging stops entered in, so that you could pull up from the list? that's what it looked like you were doing Great video.
10 minutes into your video and I’m already feeling the drama of electrify America and thoughts of getting rid of this truck ford
My limit between charging stops is 100 to a max of 150 miles. The car can do much more but I need a break long before it does. I can also just take a road break but it’s nice to combine the two needs into one stop. I also don’t drive 600 miles in a day unless I absolutely have to. That shows where I am.
I didn’t notice on your first charge stop, or possibly you didn’t mention how long your elapsed time for charging was?
to avoid the problems of reduced range and finding charging stations, these trucks need to be hybrids with a gasoline engine onboard.
Hi Dave another good video. But one question does ford supply your internet
Trees for now but understand I’ll need to pay soon
I admit I haven't watched all of your videos, but concurrent with the range issue is how long does each recharge stop take, time wise. Would help us non-EV types to understand the issues. I know I can fill my Subaru Ascent with 400+ miles of gas in under 5 minutes. You give percents but no times to compare with. Thanks.
The Ford charges slow as compared to Teslas, probably 30-40% due to its design. What ICE drivers usually ignore is time to do other needed things during trip that takes time. Eating, using the restroom and taking a breaks. During charge times you can do these things without having to park after the 5 minute fill up. If your bladder is giant you simply hold it until you gas up every 7-8 hours of driving non stop. I try to show start and stop chargers times, I’ll try to make it more pronounced.
thank you EV Dave- quick question for you on the dashcam/security features of the Lightning. Is it your long term goal to install a dashcam/security cam for the truck?
Nice video Dave. Safe travels. How efficient is the Ford?
Are you retired? If your family was with you, would that be an issue? If it was 20 degrees all day, is it still the same charging/stop time? Thank you, hope you’re well.
Hi Dan, it is a fact that I am retired and no having my family with me is not a problem. Depending on what EV you’re planning or are driving depends a lot on how far it will go on a charge and at what temperature. In the winter time the vehicle uses more energy to keep you warm. Just like an internal combustion engine vehicle would. In my trips at 20°. I think the range for a 320 mile Tesla model Y is around 170 to 200 miles per charge. In the hot weather that seem range will be 185 to 270 miles but there’s a lot of factors such as wind and terrain that change that. The exact same physics act on internal combustion engine vehicles as well. If you’re driving a Tesla, unlike some of the other EV brands it calculates your route and your charge stops based upon all of these factors. You know I like to say that my preference is to stop between 170 and 240 miles my bladder likes it the best. That’s between 2 1/2 and four hours of driving. If you were going to be driving a non-Tesla EV they do not perform as well and therefore it is more cumbersome to drive in a non-tesla EV only because Tesla vehicles are highly engineered and every little range enhancing feature has been designed in it and they drive wonderful what do I say? I hope this answers some of your questions. Dan have a look at my videos being an engineer. I am not a salesman I only show you what the vehicle does and how easy it is to drive a modern and electric vehicle like a Tesla. I hope this answers some of your questions.
The newer Apple iPhone software updates pull data from the vehicle on my Mach-e and shows state of charge at the destination when using Apple Maps. That doesn’t happen with the lightning?
No one does road trips like you Dave. If you want to know the reality of road tripping in an EV this is the place to come. I'm sure you are (like me) anxious to add a CyberTruck to your EV collection. My guess is it will be bye bye Lightening once the CT arrives.
Do you have a tripod for your camera instead of holding in your hand the entire time?
Enjoying watching your journey. What’s the fastest charge rate you’ve had in the lightning?
I noticed you purchased the truck with about 2400 miles on the odometer. Was it used or a demo?
This…..just doesn’t seem like progress to me. I like the idea of a Lightening, but I guess for commuting only.
Is it just me, or is the entire trip about finding charging stations?
With cold range about half and flaky CCS charging equipment and not much of it as you saw it was an adventure.
All lightning truck owners worry about the next charge lol...for 100 grand no thanks
Hey Dave, Derek from HSCC, can you tell me when you charge the lighting to 80 percent does the range always stay the same?
Im looking at and used F150 and the range seems way off for and extended range at 53% it shows 135 miles
Eric, above 60 degrees the extended range battery will show 320 at 100 percent. 80 percent showed I think about 287ish . If you drive 60-65 you will get that range and it’s about 2 miles per kWh
If you like to drive it call Keith he will give you my cellphone then text me
Bought one, love it....
@@evdave528 is 60 mph realistic on the highway? who drives 60 -65 mph on the highway -- answer: no one unless you are pulling a trailer.
It turns like the titanic because you trying to drive it like it's a car. You have too swing the front end out before turning
Dave why don't you ever start out at 100% when at your home leaving for a trip?
At 80-80% I’ve got plenty of range to reach the supercharger
Can you make 4k videos
I can but prefer HD
When using the EA app, your account is charged for energy used. Why didn’t you use plug-N-charge to take advantage of Ford’s free charging that comes with Lightning? Isn’t free better? Lightning needs an over the update to improve charging information.
The charging experience is what is keeping me from going electric. I know the Tesla charging system is much better, but I would prefer a truck, and the Tesla truck is not my thing.
@@jeremylighthart1910 I agree, and Tesla’s truck is the ugliest thing I have ever seen. Reminds me of the GMC Avalanche only worse.
564 miles trip. Charged 5 times PLUS the initial charge at home. 6 charges. 564/6 = 94 miles per charge. About 45 - 60 min per charge = 270 - 300 min sitting at the charging stations. ICE initial fillup, 20 min.....plus 1 - 2 other fill-ups.....20 - 40 min. Using round numbers, 300 min EV vs 60 min ICE sitting at charging/gas stations. EV takes 5 times as long to "refuel" on long trips, using generally round numbers. EV fabulous for around town......not so great for longer trips.
The thing just charges too slow
Shouldn't charge beyond 80 percent. Even if you get 290 at 100 percent real-world miles and only 80% after that. Say 232 miles. It should only take you to charge maybe 2.5 as long. So roughly 40 mins x three is no more than 120 mins total. So, twice as long but half the price of fuel, not 5x as long.
State of Charge channel proof that this truck fluctuates in charges and it's normal. 😅
Boy so much legacy buttons what happened to the new technology Ford?
No way I'm willing to deal with this constant charging bullshit.
You don’t put fuel in your car?
What a really shitty way to drive then wait an hr for a charge then have to worry where your next charge will be ...gas is still the way and lightning is a major scam
These electric vehicles are junk
Don’t class modern EVs with the Lightning it’s old tech
@@evdave528 all electric vehicles are junk