Colin that was a wow moment for me when you said your daughter always edits in proxies. I've been shopping for a new laptop for 2 months now. Big bucks. Bought a new dell precision power house unit and returned it already. It did not cut it at all on my 60P intra GH6 10bit 422 at 600mgps footage. Was thinking about a M1 PRO or even M2 pro but I see from watching videos after video, it does not really cut either. I mean, it's great but I'm not dropping 3 grand just to do OK. It was this that drove me to this proxy video. The reality is, no laptop can truly and freely edit hi frame rate, hi quality, color graded footage not to mention effects and transitions and graphics. So hearing your pro pros daughter uses proxies full time has saved me 3 grand. When I'm on the road I am going to use my older model i7 laptop and use proxies. Hallelujah. Thank you.
I am just learning how to use proxies and wanted to use the @4:52 add watermark option but didn't know where it was until this video!! Thanks for sharing
Same here! My guess: the Premiere version. Although I´m running 2022, as Colin, it might by an earlier 2022 one. Would be great to know the version he is running.
With respect, I disagree with you on using proxies on HD footage. I mostly use HD but mix in 4K footage within my videos. My 2018 MacBook Pro with Radeon Pro Vega 20 4 GB it runs a lot smoother with proxies on everything. I do think I need to upgrade my computer so I can switch to 4k fully but that's a different discussion. Before I started using proxies my computer would lag terribly even after rendering. I even worked with Adobe Support remoted into my computer and they recommended proxies. That's just my 2 cents, other than that I appreciate your videos very much! Thank you!
Thank you Collin for this video. Question: after a project is finished and ready to be archived, can I delete all the proxy files without losing any editing info? Proxies also take up disc space... so if you are no longer making any changes to the project my guess is that there shouldn't be any issues to delete them. Am I right?
@VideoRevealed, When I use the ingest setting for 1920x1080 video and reduce it to half = 960x540. But the preset for PreRes low res QuickTime proxy, the resolution is different; it is 1024x540? why is that, how come not 960 half of 1920? original video file is H.264 Thank you
the problem with proxies that when you start using warp stabilizer and morph cut effect ( which i know shouldn't be used that much) would start to slow the timeline quite a bit, as it uses the original file instead of the proxy ( which also understandable) but as if the using proxies isn't that beneficial with that use case, on m1 macs would slow everything after it which is really annoying
create a proxy file manually by normal export, import to project as a normal video, edit it with your heavy effects, replace footage to original video, done
Appreciate the update. Had some confusion. Sorry you can't read comments here?? I want to Ingest and create proxies, so I can go to bed while it works. Now totally confused about "copies" vs transcode and proxies. And I always want to use Lightroom at first so I have the clips in a database. So I don't want copies I think.
My problem with canon raw proxies. The footage looks god awful when viewed in proxy. Especially when color graded. Cfast raw but also records to sd card proxies. Also it won’t seem to sync all of the proxies that are made in camera. I have to link one at a time. Even tho it says locate all. I checked the boxes for media start time. Then tryed all the boxes.
I shoot wildlife in 4k 120p a lot and then "interpret" it to 60p or 30p before adding it to the timeline. In the past, when I made proxies for the interpreted footage, I had to "tell" Media Encoder that it was interpreted for the proxies to turn out right. The option to select interpreted footage in ME is disabled now and the proxies. How do I make proxies for interpreted footage now?
@@pheasantpluck I was very happy with my workflow the way it was ... until a couple of udpates ago. It was much cleaner setting frame rate at the file level in the media browser before creating a sequence/timeline. It also allowed you to use Warp Stabilizer which you cannot do if you slow down the footage on the timeline. There were LOTS of advantages.
@@rghurst So darn true.....such a dang shame that framerates with proxy is so unreliable. Would love to just make proxies that automatically have the same framerate as source footage no matter what...!!
You create the proxies without interpreting at all then slow down the footage by frame rate, the proxies will match. Matt Johnson did a great video on this.
I work in full 4K ProRes footage without proxies at all 😂 (although I do place audio on another drive as I found that sometimes audio would drop out otherwise) 7200RPM HDDs striped together for even better performance. Works pretty well. But performance wasn't even terrible when using the drives separately either.
I wish I have a 2.5TB project and holy crap I dont have a large enough drive to transcode it all to 422 IDK how these larger projects keep up with the storage. I have an 85TB NAS but it isnt fast enough now to edit off of. But even if I could I would only get like 8 projects on it before it would be full. How on earth do people have all their footage in ProRes and not have to keep buying drives. Also I got my nas a few years ago. All 5400 rpm drives. Do you notice a large speed difference between 5400 and 7300. I let like 100MB/sec with 6 drives total, 2 being redundant. I have a 10gbe port but it is so incredibly slow. I even have ssd cache but it doesnt seem to do much. would love to chat
@@billycrowe4501 I only keep the footage for my current project. I have 16TB of SSD space now which will cover the majority of my projects (and gets 1GB/s striped), but I still have an extra 28TB of HDD space from the drives I used to use for this stuff if I ever need more, now attached externally. I may add another SSD at some point to expand that footage storage if it becomes common that I need it. I only archive the finished project.
Also, H.264-H.265 aren't delivery codecs that are meant for editing. Yes there are prolly situations in the past where you have been able to handle it but it came at a cost. The concept of using proxies isn't a new concept and the fact that you expect editing software to edit with a highly compressed codecs is a bigger joke in itself
@@progrockrules I also edit h264 without any issues. For years now. But recently bought a Canon R6 and when shooting in Clog3 it saves in h265 10bit and now it does lag. So now if I decide to shoot in Clog3 I will need to create proxies.
Colin that was a wow moment for me when you said your daughter always edits in proxies. I've been shopping for a new laptop for 2 months now. Big bucks. Bought a new dell precision power house unit and returned it already. It did not cut it at all on my 60P intra GH6 10bit 422 at 600mgps footage. Was thinking about a M1 PRO or even M2 pro but I see from watching videos after video, it does not really cut either. I mean, it's great but I'm not dropping 3 grand just to do OK. It was this that drove me to this proxy video. The reality is, no laptop can truly and freely edit hi frame rate, hi quality, color graded footage not to mention effects and transitions and graphics. So hearing your pro pros daughter uses proxies full time has saved me 3 grand. When I'm on the road I am going to use my older model i7 laptop and use proxies. Hallelujah. Thank you.
I am just learning how to use proxies and wanted to use the @4:52 add watermark option but didn't know where it was until this video!! Thanks for sharing
Thank you, Colin! So great to understand these Proxy update!!
I just reduce the playback resolution to half. It plays back fine. Is that not a good idea?
I can't see proxy badges in my clips. I already have activated it in my sequence but it isn't showing...
Same here!
My guess: the Premiere version. Although I´m running 2022, as Colin, it might by an earlier 2022 one.
Would be great to know the version he is running.
With respect, I disagree with you on using proxies on HD footage. I mostly use HD but mix in 4K footage within my videos. My 2018 MacBook Pro with Radeon Pro Vega 20 4 GB it runs a lot smoother with proxies on everything. I do think I need to upgrade my computer so I can switch to 4k fully but that's a different discussion. Before I started using proxies my computer would lag terribly even after rendering. I even worked with Adobe Support remoted into my computer and they recommended proxies. That's just my 2 cents, other than that I appreciate your videos very much! Thank you!
Thanks...
how do you create a proxy preset ? This has me stumped.
Thank you Collin for this video. Question: after a project is finished and ready to be archived, can I delete all the proxy files without losing any editing info? Proxies also take up disc space... so if you are no longer making any changes to the project my guess is that there shouldn't be any issues to delete them. Am I right?
Thanks so much Colin!
Do you still have to toggle on the "proxy" icon in the program window with this new feature of creating proxies with watermarks?
Yes
I'm confused as to why you selected "Transcode" rather than "Create Proxies" at 2:31
Very helpful tutorial, thank you!
How to add proxy files created in camera (Lumix S5M2X)
@VideoRevealed,
When I use the ingest setting for 1920x1080 video and reduce it to half = 960x540. But the preset for PreRes low res QuickTime proxy, the resolution is different; it is 1024x540? why is that, how come not 960 half of 1920? original video file is H.264
Thank you
Hi please help on some problem on premiere when I open other project in present project audio clips is change like its unsync any solutions for that
Hows it feel to have a petabyte?
Great Tutorial, Thanx a Lot.
the problem with proxies that when you start using warp stabilizer and morph cut effect ( which i know shouldn't be used that much) would start to slow the timeline quite a bit, as it uses the original file instead of the proxy ( which also understandable) but as if the using proxies isn't that beneficial with that use case, on m1 macs would slow everything after it which is really annoying
create a proxy file manually by normal export, import to project as a normal video, edit it with your heavy effects, replace footage to original video, done
@@vooshmoozik6185 makes good practical sense
@@vooshmoozik6185legend 👌
Appreciate the update. Had some confusion. Sorry you can't read comments here?? I want to Ingest and create proxies, so I can go to bed while it works. Now totally confused about "copies" vs transcode and proxies. And I always want to use Lightroom at first so I have the clips in a database. So I don't want copies I think.
My problem with canon raw proxies.
The footage looks god awful when viewed in proxy. Especially when color graded. Cfast raw but also records to sd card proxies. Also it won’t seem to sync all of the proxies that are made in camera. I have to link one at a time. Even tho it says locate all. I checked the boxes for media start time. Then tryed all the boxes.
what is lucid 1PB ? is it a ext ssd ?
I shoot wildlife in 4k 120p a lot and then "interpret" it to 60p or 30p before adding it to the timeline. In the past, when I made proxies for the interpreted footage, I had to "tell" Media Encoder that it was interpreted for the proxies to turn out right. The option to select interpreted footage in ME is disabled now and the proxies. How do I make proxies for interpreted footage now?
I think you might be better off keeping the footage at source frame rate and making proxies from that, and then slowing it down in the timeline
@@pheasantpluck I was very happy with my workflow the way it was ... until a couple of udpates ago. It was much cleaner setting frame rate at the file level in the media browser before creating a sequence/timeline. It also allowed you to use Warp Stabilizer which you cannot do if you slow down the footage on the timeline. There were LOTS of advantages.
@@rghurst So darn true.....such a dang shame that framerates with proxy is so unreliable. Would love to just make proxies that automatically have the same framerate as source footage no matter what...!!
You create the proxies without interpreting at all then slow down the footage by frame rate, the proxies will match. Matt Johnson did a great video on this.
are we still not able to create 120fps proxies?
@@progrockrules they haven’t allowed creation of 120fps pro res proxies since 2019
I work in full 4K ProRes footage without proxies at all 😂
(although I do place audio on another drive as I found that sometimes audio would drop out otherwise)
7200RPM HDDs striped together for even better performance. Works pretty well. But performance wasn't even terrible when using the drives separately either.
other formats don't playback as well as ProRes though.
I wish I have a 2.5TB project and holy crap I dont have a large enough drive to transcode it all to 422 IDK how these larger projects keep up with the storage. I have an 85TB NAS but it isnt fast enough now to edit off of. But even if I could I would only get like 8 projects on it before it would be full. How on earth do people have all their footage in ProRes and not have to keep buying drives. Also I got my nas a few years ago. All 5400 rpm drives. Do you notice a large speed difference between 5400 and 7300. I let like 100MB/sec with 6 drives total, 2 being redundant. I have a 10gbe port but it is so incredibly slow. I even have ssd cache but it doesnt seem to do much. would love to chat
@@billycrowe4501 I only keep the footage for my current project. I have 16TB of SSD space now which will cover the majority of my projects (and gets 1GB/s striped), but I still have an extra 28TB of HDD space from the drives I used to use for this stuff if I ever need more, now attached externally. I may add another SSD at some point to expand that footage storage if it becomes common that I need it.
I only archive the finished project.
sample but now it doesn't work.
Yea... You conveniently left out the BIG issues with original files of say 60fps made into proxies and then those proxies used on a 24fps timeline!
We make proxies not because of the 4k videos, but because of how premiere playbacks h264, which is still a joke 😂
Exactly. I make ProRes proxies to make scrubbing smooth as butter. 🧈😎
Also, H.264-H.265 aren't delivery codecs that are meant for editing. Yes there are prolly situations in the past where you have been able to handle it but it came at a cost. The concept of using proxies isn't a new concept and the fact that you expect editing software to edit with a highly compressed codecs is a bigger joke in itself
@@progrockrules I also edit h264 without any issues. For years now. But recently bought a Canon R6 and when shooting in Clog3 it saves in h265 10bit and now it does lag. So now if I decide to shoot in Clog3 I will need to create proxies.
carefull with proress proxys and RED R3D files. For those its better to use H264 proxys because of the audio streams.