The US Military Budget: Too much or too little?

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  • Опубліковано 24 чер 2023
  • Mike, Jake, and Tim break down how the US military spends $850+ BILLION PER YEAR. Where does it all go? Who gets what? What are the trends to track? Is it too much money…or not enough? Tune in to find out. We'll make you smart on the defense budget-we guarantee it.----
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    Show Notes
    (00:30) intro
    (02:39) joke time
    (04:24) Jon Stewart’s interview
    (05:54) the budget basics
    (08:19) slices of the pie, by branch
    (11:49) slices of the pie, by use
    (12:47) RDT&E slice
    (17:21) procurement slice
    (26:37) personnel slice
    (36:00) O&M slice
    (37:10) Why O&M is so high
    (39:10) innovation in production
    (43:51) how much is enough? Toplines
    (46:37) GDP
    (51:25) NATO GDP
    (54:16) balancing the budget
    (56:32) defense vs. non-defense
    (59:48) sequestration lessons not learned
    ( 1:02:17) outro

КОМЕНТАРІ • 44

  • @WilliamMacLeod-en3pm
    @WilliamMacLeod-en3pm Рік тому +5

    I love a good manometer / mais non mais non joke (a manometer is a device used to read gas pressure and NOT, as I had originally assumed, a device used to take the measure of a man)

  • @Wiz99999
    @Wiz99999 11 місяців тому

    As a Navy Supply Corps Officer stationed in Guam, this one was a really interesting watch. There are all these rules, tools, and regulations in place to ensure reduction in waste at the lowest level that become burdensome (and sometimes for very trivial savings) to getting the actual mission done. I’d love to see how the audit process is done at the upper echelons of our beloved DoD. This is quickly becoming one of my favorite podcasts. Keep it up!!!

  • @dikirkland
    @dikirkland 10 місяців тому

    Thank you all three for the wonderful discussion on the mil budget!

  • @emmettjones5165
    @emmettjones5165 Рік тому +4

    Great commentary on procurement, budget allocation, and amazing insights into how procurement and R&D has changed over time. Your example of comparing the Century Series with the F-35 program really illustrates how these costs are paying for a 66-year expected lifecycle, with expected upgrades, maintenance, and even the fuel to operate them over those years are included. Loved your iPhone analogy, and the jokes at the end were much better.
    Found you by way of your appearances on Ward Carroll's channel. Definitely subscribed, love your content, and will share.

  • @greenfire6924
    @greenfire6924 Рік тому +3

    Appreciate the mention of the US Forest Service as a legit form of service to the nation at about 32:20.
    Boring backstory... Out of high school I joined the Forest Service for Wildland Firefighting. After one fire season I was willingly drafted into the US Army (Spring 1971). I volunteered for Airborne every chance I got. Not only did the Army send me Airborne they also sent me to Non-Commissioned Officer Candidate School. I became a hard stripe Sargent (E5) only 8 months into my enlistment.
    ETS in 1973 I returned to the Forest Service and enjoyed a 28-year career taking fire assignments all across the lower 48 states.
    I highly recommend both the US Forest Service and the US Army as career commitments.

    • @TheMergeMedia
      @TheMergeMedia  Рік тому

      Great story, thanks for sharing.

    • @greenfire6924
      @greenfire6924 Рік тому +1

      @@TheMergeMedia Thanks for noticing my little comment. I'm signed up for, read and enjoy much of The Merge email content as well.
      I really enjoyed and was rewarded by my short time in the Eighty Deuce. Had it not been for the USFS and my desire for Wildland Firefighting I likely would have reenlisted. No surprise, I am Lifetime Member of the 82nd Airborne Division Association, The 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment Association and the US Hot Shots Association.
      In other words, I frequently stink up reunions...

  • @brianrmc1963
    @brianrmc1963 10 місяців тому

    This is all completely fascinating, while at the same time you are making it fun. 👏🏻

  • @ulaanbataar4479
    @ulaanbataar4479 11 місяців тому

    Thank you from Italy!

  • @NoGoodHandlesComingToMind
    @NoGoodHandlesComingToMind 10 місяців тому

    32:31, bringing back bad memories.

  • @oleran4569
    @oleran4569 11 місяців тому

    Fascinating discussion! Thanks!

  • @tomwilson1006
    @tomwilson1006 11 місяців тому

    Until we can build an actual Death Star, the US defense budget will NEVER be enough.

  • @dikirkland
    @dikirkland 10 місяців тому

    It is non-discretionary budget that is eating an increasingly large slice of funds….MEDICAID in particular. Those who are on MEDICARE actually paid and continue to pay for it…..except for those who paid nothing but are “allowed” to take.

  • @DC-uj5rq
    @DC-uj5rq 7 місяців тому

    Good presentation. A point to consider. Time stamp 39:00 In the cost over the lifetime, I wonder how much added GDP is gained from such programs? It is economic activity, you pointed out yourself that such figures even include the cost of the fuel. Someone has to produce that fuel and the spare parts and the R&D over time. It all adds up to jobs and taxes and economic activity, probably right here at home.

  • @davegt27
    @davegt27 Рік тому +3

    You need more Beer, you can't solve all the worlds problems without beer (so to speak).
    on another note how many Jets did the AF get rid of last year ??

  • @bret9741
    @bret9741 11 місяців тому

    The human costs are eating up the budget.

  • @dikirkland
    @dikirkland 10 місяців тому

    Sequestration for non-discretionary spending…needs to happen soon.

  • @BV-fr8bf
    @BV-fr8bf Рік тому +2

    In the short term (5 years), the Air Force is the heavy lift to defend Taiwan. The US Navy is too far behind on ship and submarine builds. Block 5 Virginia class subs were just delayed another year (ie, Ohio class SSGNs will start to retire before their replacements enter service.)

  • @dikirkland
    @dikirkland 10 місяців тому

    Smarter than we are smart.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Рік тому +3

    It’s criminal this video only has 381 views so far. I guess people need headlines about Hunter’s laptop or Kushner’s Saudi deals to click.

    • @TheMergeMedia
      @TheMergeMedia  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for the support! We'll figure out this internet thing eventually.😂

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Рік тому +2

      @@TheMergeMedia Typically, it’s just a matter of criticality. You slog for months or a couple years with slow growth and then all of a sudden you start growing in leaps and bounds. There are also ways to game the system to grow faster. I am sure you can easily find them. As long as you’re using the tactics to grow a channel with original content rather than just being another channel that repackages other people’s content, it’s a legit way to grow.

  • @markharvey8706
    @markharvey8706 Рік тому +2

    "Submarine"? ... keep your day job. ✨️

  • @mcb4067
    @mcb4067 Рік тому +2

    While the future is unpredictable I wonder if the US army is now lacking a purpose. The US's number 1# pacing threat is China, which will be the job of Marines/air-force/navy. For example In what other scenarios would the Army's 5000+ main battle tanks be relevant?

    • @TheMergeMedia
      @TheMergeMedia  Рік тому +2

      I don't think there are easy answers, especially when a force has to be sized and equipped for multiple futures at once. Very few wars in history were predicted accurately.

  • @dikirkland
    @dikirkland 10 місяців тому

    Smarter, faster, better, etc……than I am.

  • @jared9191
    @jared9191 Рік тому +2

    How about we take all of the money heading to Ukraine and put that into things that will actually help us in the Pacific..

  • @Notmeeeeeee69
    @Notmeeeeeee69 11 місяців тому

    If you’re an E-2 you make too much money to get food stamps in CALIFORNIA…. I am a bit perplexed by Jon’s words.

  • @everythingman987
    @everythingman987 11 місяців тому

    It would actually be pretty easy to start closing tax loopholes, increase taxes substantially (including capital gains) for the top 1% of earners, and the largest most profitable companies.
    It would also be pretty easy to fine corporations who skirt and break regulations in every economic sector ungodly amounts of money, especially repeat offenders.
    Most of the national debt is owed to ourselves! Especially through social security.
    That would help to decrease the national debt but it won’t eliminate it. Unfortunately Congress as an institution is broken.

    • @everythingman987
      @everythingman987 11 місяців тому

      Addition: most national debt is owed to ourselves through not only social security, but also the federal reserve, local and state governments and other domestic institutions.

  • @dikirkland
    @dikirkland 10 місяців тому

    How about a podcast on the subject of just “how long a real war would last in the near future?” Say for instance, China takes Taiwan and we and our allies decide to declare war on China….how long will it last? Many other choices available for the basis of discussion.

  • @mrmuffin5046
    @mrmuffin5046 Рік тому +1

    the government doesnt need to fund. let the private market do it and they will make the product even better. Though government should be in control of the military and not privatize it.

    • @vmpgsc
      @vmpgsc Рік тому

      That's the requirements game. DoD has a very hard time buying anything off the shelf; they have to exquisite the shit out of whatever it is.

  • @johngilbert6036
    @johngilbert6036 Рік тому

    Interest on the debt is 2 billion per day that does not leave much.

  • @rpapplebee
    @rpapplebee Рік тому

    Aren't we talking with the PI government wrt access to our former bases on Luzon?