The 2020 Toyota C-HR Is A Weird Little CUV With Compromises
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The #ToyotaCHR started development as a vehicle for Scion, Toyota's youth orientated brand that was killed off in 2017 due to slow sales. Because of its roots, the #CHR had some noticeable quirky design details and it has carried over into the transition as a #Toyota model. For 2020, the #CoupeHighRider crossover gets some nice updates, mainly to address lack of a decent head unit and a lack of nice features. However, AWD is still not an option and the entry level Toyota SUV still lacks decent grunt and a usable trunk and back seat. - Авто та транспорт
Zero to 60 by lunchtime.
Naturally aspirated engine is key here. Will be reliable. Very agile to drive and handle. Comfortable seats for a long ride. Looks good to me.
Is it to slow ? Would have to drive it know for sure. I drive an 07 civic with 140 hp and im fine with that. It also has a all important naturally aspirated engine. Direct injection turbos will not last as long.
C-HR needs AWD and hybrid like it does in Europe...funky styling alone isn't enough. Keep up the great content 😎
I've been waiting for the all-wheel-drive I guess it's not coming.
That would add at least 5k to the price and everyone would buy a RAV4 or the competition instead of it. Be realistic, Kirk.
@@braetonwilson4296 well said
same issue that plagued the honda hrv, severely under-powered
The CH-R is indeed all compromised, and shows its Scion origins with the overly quirky design. Toyota really needs to offer it with a better engine, such as a 2.0T, and add AWD, to get it to make some sense in my mind. As it is, there is just some weird style, and little substance.
HRV severely underpowered? Not true at all in the case of the 1.5 turbo HRV. It's a quick car.
@@jdmguy44 Yes but then you have to deal with oil dilution and the fact that turbocharged engines don't last as long as naturally aspirated.
@@braetonwilson4296 the hrv has a 1.5t in North America?
3 Pedals no
this is a good vehicle for the kids in high school and college. anybody who wants something bigger than a sedan/compact car but not quite ready or in the need for full on suv territory as well.
No HS or college kid is buying this 🤣🤣
My parents bought one of these when they first came out. I'm glad they moved the backup cam image from the corner of the rear view mirror to the main screen.
The rear visibility looks awful
What a ras!!
That C-Pillar is so big and the rear window is so tiny
if this car has 230+hp with a turbo, it's a perfect little car.
That can be said with any car
It would also be much more expensive. Given that this is a Corolla on stilts, that’d be missing the point.
@@EclipseCircle def more for inter city driving
Would defeat the purpose of the hierarchy in the line up. Put this at 200 hp and everything else above it has to increase in power.
Also the general buyer wouldn't be revving it to use all 200+ hp so that's why Toyota didn't do it.
What it needs is the Corollas 2.0. since the CHR and Lexus UX use this same platform and underpinnings
EclipseCircle what it really needs is the 2.0l 4 cylinder and first gear enable CVT from my Corolla SE. That would give it more pep.
Thank you for mentioning car seats and the rear seat. I was actually looking at these but with the little room it’s a deal breaker with a small child.
It's not made for small children. Buy a Rav
I love how you criticize this for a “cheap interior” but loved the Venue and Seltos that are FILLED with cheap plastic too
You can see he editorializes- injects his opinions which are subjective. He doesn’t like Toyota’s.
Man I wish the TC would have lived on.
Me too, man. But remember, the tC used to live in the same platform as the Camry, and right now the Camry is so long that the tC would look very weird with two doors... Nonetheless, it really was great.
@@FidelF Not really, the TC at least the last generation used the Corolla platform with Camry drivetrain. So if they still had it around itd ride on the new TNGA-C(compact) platform with the camry 200hp engine, would be cool.
@@jimmypena2442 interesting. The tC is so heavy for a 2-Door that I thought it was completely on a Camry platform. Still a fun car, though. And a zippy one as well
Fidel Ferrer They’re about 3000lbs, the Civic si around my the age of my TC(2014) is about the same but the newer ones are about 2700lbs. Not light but not bad.
@@jimmypena2442 It doesnt look like a big difference, but the Si is 10% lighter than the tC... That's a significant amount. And like I said, for a 2-Door 3k pounds is a lot.
It is screaming for the hybrid engine available in other markets. It still may be slow but at least you get 40mpg
You are correct, in this video the C-HR is literally screaming. Adding a Hybrid drivetrain would quiet it down.
If you didn't know it was a Toyota, you might think it's something put out by GM.
You can always tell when a person hates a brand. Every toyota product this guy hates on so much more than the rest even tho is superior.
Wtong!! He gave the Rav4 Prime an excellent review. He actually ended up purchasing one.
Great review! Everything about the exterior and interior screams “cramped”.
I think it’s a small vehicle for people like me who need a small car. I have a large truck and large Infiniti suv - I need a run about that’s great on gas and getting a few groceries. This does the trick
Not at all cramped if you are a normal sized individual. Unfortunately, as many reports show, members of today's society are getting more and more obese and this causes problems not only in car accommodation but also air and coach travel. It's not the car manufacturers fault if someone can't fit inside properly.
The headlights are my favorite part of the entire car
Same Delgado same
I don't need to buy this. I can just turn a cordless vacuum on and throw it in my back seat. Thanks for saving us money Sofyan!
I actually like mine. Didn’t need fast or large. I have 2 other cars for that. This does great in traffic going to the grocery or drug store less than 5 miles away in the city. I knew what I was getting after driving many cars. Toyota is dependable and the dealer is close and the discount was good. But I bought the lower end model and not this expensive trim.
The funny thing is, this is one of the few cars I’ve seen him actively dislike yet I see them everywhere!
He hates all toyotas. Look at the reviews in the past and he nags over everything.
This guy will pick on the most trivial things because of his obvious dislike for Toyota and Lexus which dominates sales.Notice how he never complains about the other brands.there is nothing wrong with the 2.0 engine whatsoever and his facial expression is in rather poor taste.wonder what vehicle he drives because he has a very snobbish attitude...
@@kovilanmoodley7464 I think he has a Porsche Cayman.....so yeah lol
I almost bought one despite this review. People like them. Young & old and single or married. Style may be the reason but I liked it!
Kovilan Moodley has a Porsche if you watch this channel. He traded that recently. He has a Tesla and he bought his partner a Subaru Forester
"(…) this car was designed to be a Scion vehicle (…)", don't you mean "this car was designed by Toyota, but was to be branded a Scion in the US"? It kind of feels like a US-centric thing when it really isn't - this is a global car for Toyota.
Exactly.
I was reading that they are axing the C-HR for the new Toyota Corolla Cross-Over by 2021.... Not sure if it will come with AWD, but It will have the option manual option. I think that is why that the C-HR has no hybrid/awd/manual/sunroof... etc. I am sure that it will have more horsepower/torque. I am just curious tho, when you are doing the 0-60... do you have the car in Eco/ Normal mode or do you have it in Sport mode?
Where did you hear about the C-HR being discontinued? The Corolla Cross is slotting between the C-HR and the RAV4.
Why would anyone be touching the black plastic on the dash anyway you show sticking your fingers on that plastic and there are no buttons or any reason to touch this so why complain about it
Exaggerated. Doesn't happen. Put a micro cloth in side pocket. Wipe voila. Nonsense. Carrying on like it's China tea cups. Drive the car for Pete's sake
The new Yaris Cross is much more appealing than this. If you have $28,000 to spend there is a far superior RAV4 LE Hybrid waiting for you. This C-HR is popular in Europe but then again, so are French and Italian cars.
Its looks nice for young people with no kids.
Or grown ones who have their own cars.
@@moeanthony9308 nah it's not practical enough for that
@@sinisterwraith7050 You are right. Smart car is the way to go. Very Brilliant Sinister brilliant
@@moeanthony9308 can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
@@sinisterwraith7050 The truth is brah. To each is own, it's adequate for the needs of the buyer
Just skip this and go buy the CX-30. 184hp and a stepped automatic transmission plus much quieter and nice materials on the inside.
There has been recalls due to the cylinder deactivation technology in the Mazda engine. That worries me.
@@braetonwilson4296 Just get the lower trims without cylinder deactivation..they are solid
@@NaijaBull better yet, skip the first year and late the bugs escape.
Good that you found the cx-30 more suitable for you but it just depends on needs and the people’s styling preferences...for example, I find the plastics better than handle since they clean easily and can take some abuse meanwhile if all of your car is wrapped in leather you will worry to much about them getting damaged or torn; plus I think the CH-R looks more juvenile and the Cx-30 more like (I am a family guy)
The cx-30 looks uglier than Prius
Does it come in manual transmission? no? will this car be able to be driven for 20 years without major repairs? with that CVT onboard I don't think so.
Why would one want tinted rear windows? Maybe in a hot, sunny climate like AZ or FL but in the north, esp in winter, they greatly reduce both interior light and outward visibility, esp at night.
Naw
200hp could be the sweet spot for this small sporty looking s.u.v but at the very least they need to upgrade the engine to match the power of the Corolla...
So what is the purpose of this vehicle.....it has limited ground clearance, limited space, limited power, limited luxury features, no AWD........for $28,000 you might as well get a damn camry, or RAV4
I'd rather get the RAV4 XLE Premium
Can you please do a review on the 2020 NX 300h? Thank you!!
I looked at this car while looking at an corolla hatchback. Just the design itself was enough to make me look the other way and I didn't even look at the engine back then. Glad I averted this.
Your reaction to the lackluster acceleration: PRICELESS
Ouch that was rough.
In Europe it does come with the new 2.0 at 184hp combined, brings down 0-100 kph to 8.3 seconds.
I think the next gen will have Awd and hybrid system! Just be patient
And I’ve said this to you before the tail/brake lights are LED
If this was a dodge it would be trashed. Oh wait , it was. This looks like a new caliber ! But since it’s a Toyota it’s so “amazing”.
If this had a manual option and the new 2.0L with 169hp, I'd actually consider buying it. I love the funky styling and small size. But as it stands, the Corolla hatchback is a more compelling car. I really hope the rumours are true and they stick the GR Yaris powertrain under the hood.
Take a shot every time Sofyan says to check out the competition
Take a shot every time he says the word "standard" in any of his videos and youre going to have a bad time real quick.
which you should check out the competition
I'd be willing to get the Rav-4 or Highlander Hybrid which are bigger, more spacious, and get way better fuel economy plus AWD
I'd love to hear your thoughts/ take on who exactly this segment is meant for. Each car seems underpowered, cramped and lacking.
People want to sit up high with bigger tires and slightly more clearance, and dont want a bigger car.
Whenever we get people in our dealership looking at this, the simple exclusion of not having AWD turns off almost 95% of potential buyers. That, and a relatively cheap feeling interior, like most other Toyotas.
When you said, “like most other Toyota’s,” did you mean all their interiors feel cheap ?
@@joshua9073 no that's why he said 'most' and not 'all'.
The problem Toyota made was choosing design over practicality.They need to scrap this vehicle and come up with something new. The competition is far better than this.
Thanks for the upload. Well done. The CHR is way too compromised by its styling. The JDM all-wheel drive turbocharged version needs to be imported to the US market. The Kona and CX30 are better buys...
Sadly, in North America you don't have thr HR-V Sport 182cv, yes same engine from the civic we've got here in France, 0 to 60 in 7,8s, really a fantastic car (got one).
Dude my 10+ year old Honda has Civic base model has about the same HP as this car and this is suppose to be a SUV?
Thank you for posting this a better start of my morning I can't wait to pick up my 18 Civic Sport touring hatch.
sethy1 money doesn’t grow on trees...
sethy1 not everyone knows how to drive a manual
Hope you’ll get the 2.0 not the turbo, or you’ll have problems.
@@tails300 OT that wonky infotainment system.
Good thing you're not buying the base Civic LX trim because that has a very old small outdated infotainment screen that is not touchscreen and does not have apple carplay or android auto. That's one advantage of the 2021 Corolla, even the base L trim has touchscreen with apple carplay and android auto.
I like how you did videos before. Starting with the looks then the key fob and then interior and then the driving part. Idk the videos are a little weird but still love them
I think due to the virus, he's had to change the way he edits for the time being. His team of people can't get together.
Dan Bittner Thanks for the feedback! We are just trying something new but we’ll continue to make tweaks!
Redline Reviews absolutely I totally understand. I’m going to watch regardless bc I love the videos this channel produces. Just wanted to leave some feedback. Keep up the great work!!
I may be in the minority but I like how it looks but I don't want to have to feel like I need to floor it to merge onto an interstate. My much smaller 2005 Acura RSX-X has 210 hp. Hard to double the size and take a big drop in power especially with an automatic transmission.
When Sofyan said OMG and was gyrating his toned fit body back and forward while holding the steering wheel, I felt a stirring in my pants...what does that mean?
@Richard Favreau grind her?
@@moeanthony9308 Grindr. It's a casual gay hookup app. I use it all the time as does Richard apparently lol. Lots of cuties in there, you should check it out, Moe.
That you are a fan of soy.
Lol😁😂🤣
Not anti-gay . Just love puns .
Means you are a gay man
Except he isn’t toned or fit
I’m pretty happy with my 2018. I’m short so I find the seats comfortable, and it rides nice. The infotainment is terrible. That’s the biggest issue. Overall it does 90% of what I want it to do.
Next time, buy a Subaru Crosstrek.
Nothing weird about it, its a gorgeous car
Hei Sofian it’s a bloody little hybrid car. It’s 1,8 liter or two?
I've never had a chance to drive this car however just by the looks, love the front design, hate the rear tail light.
It’s okay that it’s small for single people or couples with no kids ... like me. I like it and don’t need a lot of space. I’m Sofyan’s size too. People can figure out space and size for themselves. I’m wishing Sofyan would show us things we can’t see like if the sun visors extend on 1 side or both and how’s the audio system. He didn’t open the glove box. He opened the center console but didn’t mention if it was spacious and it’s hard to see because it’s all black & dark. I need to decide between this & a Mazda CX-3. I can’t buy a car because I have back problems that make it hard to get into & out of the Mazda 3 or Toyota Corolla. Thanks for the review otherwise Sofyan.
Eh, Kona and Seltos 1.6T AWD all day, man! Those two, by far, are the only ones that matter in this segment! Though I’m curious what you might think about the Chevy Trailblazer/Buick Encore GX on that front.
the trailblazer and encore both have 3 cylinder engines and even they are faster than this thing 🤣
These things sell like crazy in other world markets. Toyota just sells them here in NA for the heck of it.
(you mean to say there's other markets than just USA???!?!😱😱😱)
It's almost everywhere here in japan too. Problem is they should have upped the power for US market because 'muricans needs to compensate
That is correct.
People that buy this car are probably the type of people to give gimmick gifts.
That's right we do. Jokes on you.
The best of this video is Sofyan bad face
28k is way too much for this car, it'd be fine if it was low 20ks
@Richard Favreau That is correct. Crap load of incentives
@Richard Favreau damn, you seem offended lol.
It is
@Richard Favreau furthermore, the base model is low 20's...this is the highest model, which like with every single car ever, isn't worth the price for the few extras included.
A used Toyota RAV4 is better or get the Corolla Hatchback, no? Not the same class but at this price point for a subcompact suv who cares. It is a neat looking vehicle though.
Looking forward to the review.on the 2020 Nissan juke
Not available in NA. Go to Europe car reviews
Are the seats real leather or Toyota’s softtex?
Ask the passengers and your backside when you get in.
Very good review, unfortunately 0-60 is so slow 😊
and it sounds horrible 😐
I like that red color. But if we’re buy a sub compact crossover, I’d go with the Subaru Cross-Treck.
I like Toyota but this car screams cluster phobic. My Kia Soul has more space and a sunroof and more horsepower than that. I prefer bigger and arm room. All that fake leather plastic rubber stuff will be scratched in one week of ownership depending on the person. I can never see myself drive it.
I think the problem with the C-HR is that it was originally designed to be a Scion. The facelift kind of helped but hopefully the second gen makes a departure from looking cheap and making changes to the engine
17yrs old girl wouldn't complain as first car for life. nvm 28k????
Needs a Hybrid & AWD badly. If you're not going to upgrade the power, at least give people better gas mileage...
I have a 2021 and love it.
They need to put whoever keeps loading up Toyota interiors with gloss black trim in the naughty corner.
They should've put the 4 banger from the Camry in it. Scion did it before with the XB and the TC. Thats the only deal breaker for me with this vehicle.
They need to put in the new 2.0 engine that's in the Corolla and also add AWD.
It needs the direct shift CVT with the first gear too.
@@tails300 yep thankfully Toyota is making those dreams come true. With the all new 2022 Toyota Corolla Cross.
I got the kia soul with 1.6l turbo 201hp 195ftlb. Much faster. Gas mileage is competitive compared to this chr. The soul has lots of space in the back hence box on wheels. Also it has dct which feels better than cvt. Im happy with my kia purchase
The soul is also GDI only and has a carbon buildup problem (as well as all GDI only engines, except for Mazda).
It looks good. I might like it if offered more power, a manual transmission, and AWD. The way it is now, no
I love how he tries to pretend that this is an objective and unbiased review, you don't like the CH-R, we get it dude.
I don't get why they don't add the 2.0 liter hybrid. It has 180 HP and does 0-60 in about 8 seconds..... Also gets good gas mileage.
It is a mystery why the hybrid is still not offered in our market.
America has too much or not enough money(?). Lexus 250h has the M20a hybrid.
Don't know about American spec cars but here in the UK the CHR comes from a Turkish factory. That together with the overly fussy styling - it's a no thanks from me. Would rather have a Mazda or Honda.
It needs more space!!! It’s just not good at anything,And that’s the reason why I didn’t buy it and ended up buying Corolla sedan !! I don’t like hybrids and don’t care if it’s not offered as a hybrid but it needs interior space and AWD !
Not if you are single driver of a two car household.
Why do you all say it needs interior space when it’s clearly a sub-compact ? Lol that’s like buying a 3 bedroom house and complaining that it doesn’t have more bedrooms. You know what you are getting so why not buy a larger car? The next class up
No way i could get in that back seat with no view and that plastic in my face---UGH! NOOOO!
They should've used the same power train as the Rav4
At whose expense?
The CH-R targets a much younger customer base that doesn't have children and doesn't want to pay the high insurance rates of having a super car, it's stylish and practical without breaking the bank. Try to see it from that perspective.
I have a 2016 Honda HR-V and yea it’s slow when merging but at least I have a ton of space, excellent on gas, and at least have sport mode😂🤷🏾♀️. Plus an HR-V is cheaper and you have an option to get a AWD🤣🤣
Also these a 1.2L turbo for this car overseas
In Europe more are sold as Hybrids.
aren't CVTs supposed to be able to optimize the engine's power at all times? why do they suck the life out of cars?
The one in my Corolla SE is pretty good, but it does have the added launch gear.
They CAN be good if they’re well-built and well-tuned. Accelerating uphill with a CVT, for example, is amazing since it’s smooth all the way without ever needing to shift gears.
The problem usually occurs when you try to quickly accelerate or decelerate. You feel that so-called “rubberbanding effect” from the CVT having to suddenly change ratios (since it can’t just drop/upshift a gear like regular autos). This combined with poor response to you putting your foot down is what sucks the life out of cars with CVT’s (usually).
The base Toyota Corolla L with the ancient 1.8 liter engine & CVT has a better power to weight ratio than this 2020 Toyota C-HR. That "boring" base Corolla is faster & more fun to drive than this C-HR and Corolla sedan has slightly more passenger & cargo space. For example, the Corolla sedan has 35 inches of rear legroom and this 2020 C-HR has 32 inches. Just shows how severely under powered and impractical this C-HR really is...no way am I paying over 20 grand for it.
What would you pay for the Corolla?
@@moeanthony9308 I would negotiate hard and buy the Corolla LE for 18k out the door.
@@braetonwilson4296 although not overly high but naw Corolla sits too low. I need ease of getting in and out. I have back pain. Not for me brah.
@@braetonwilson4296 Oh I don't live in the US. No way you getting a Corolla for 18k. No way
@@moeanthony9308 i guess back pain is an adequate reason for you to buy this mobility scooter lmao
this is the first and last C-HR from Toyota, i am sure that Toyota sell this Car for 3 - 4 years more and then Stops the Produktion.
Reading this comment gave me a stroke 🥴, but yes I agree.
Slap a turbo or hybrid powertrain, and a moonroof it would be the best little SUV
The 200 horsepower 2.5 naturally aspirated AWD Camry engine and power train would be perfect since it comes from Toyota's corporate parts bin .
my ancient craftsman lawnmower > c-hr
I want more bloopers.
Still looks amazing! I love the styling and the quirkiness! But I still won't buy it. No sunroof. No AWD. Tepid power train. I wish they would bring the hybrid version to the USA.
Toyota: we need to make C-HR cooler...I got it! Put some dimond patterns on the headliner!
The C-HR always had diamond patterns on the interior since it was created...
@Richard Favreau one of the best review ever for chr. Never screwed up his face once like Sofyan. Unique and different not the same boring luxary sedans he's accustomed to.
@@moeanthony9308 luxury* youre welcome.
CHR had more options in Japan, for some reason, they took them all out when they hit North America ,like Hybrid ..
Hybrid yuck
The Europeans may option this car to come with 2.0L hybrid producing 184hp, they also look better over there ;-; lucky Europeans/ seems more like it was built for the European market but it was brought to the us to see how well it sold 🤷🏾♂️
No sunroof, no awd, abysmal power, and no hybrid option. Why would anyone want this thing?
They would if they want a good value with decent practicality, geniunely fun ride and handling balance, edgy styling, competitive technology, and Toyota reliability.
I really love the look of it. But needs more power.
@@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947
I feel like most buyers are better off buying a 1-3 year used Toyota over buying the CHR new
@@Lucky8s A guess a used 2019 or 2020 model in a few years also would be a decent choice.
Because American consumers will buy any cuv there manufacturers throw at them. For a cuv this thing is useless
that front end looks way too similar to the old gen corolla
Hopefully Yaris cross replaces this. Otherwise Id get an HRV, Trailblazer or CX 30.
The Yaris Cross seems better in every way.
That’s not even coming to North America
@@f181234 Why not? Shouldn't Toyota have something to compete with the Venue and those other miniature CUVs? The Yaris Cross can deliver AWD and nearly 60 mpg which sounds pretty appealing to me.
if they put the camry 2.5 engine there, maybe they could have sold a lot
At what cost?
This car needs led tail lights and AWD! It would sell much better
Reminds me of a Hyundai Veloster
Interesting! How so? They look nothing alike.
Easily the worst car in Toyota’s lineup, just get seltos, or if you don’t mind slowness, get HRV for practically, if you need AWD, get crosstrek or seltos. If want fuel economy, get venue, much cheaper, has the latest safety features and tech. If you like Toyota cars, just get corolla hatch, or corolla sedan.
Safety features and tech from the Venue in which this car does come standard with.
?
IAmJustLordFarhan: The Normal Dude things like forward collision avoidance assist with pedestrian detection, blind spot monitor, and rear cross traffic alert, etc, go check out Hyundai website. The only thing I think venue is missing is that it doesn’t have leather seats as an option, you get half leather half cloth in denim edition.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Forward Collison warning with Pedestrian Detection and Auto Braking, Lane Departure Warning with Active Steering Assist, Full-Speed Adaptive Cruise Control, etc come standard on the C-HR. It's part of the Toyota Safety Sense package.
Upper trims do get Blind Spot Detection with Rear Cross Traffic Alert. Hence that the Venue doesn't actually compete with this car. The Kona does.
IAmJustLordFarhan: The Normal Dude yeah, just realized venue also missing adaptive cruise control. But venue does have many safety features, I view adaptive cruise control more as a driver convenience feature and not really a safety feature. Venue only missing a few features like the adaptive cruise control. But keep in mind venue cost much less than CHR. If you compare CHR to Kona, then Kona easily wins by having a turbo Powertrain with 201 HP, 0 to 60 in around 6 to 7 seconds.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Yea and drive it off the lot don't expect any value in return.
Headlights look like the 2011-2015 Elantra