It's Not A Crossover, But Still Worth A Look | 2021 Toyota C-HR
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- When is a SUV/CUV not an SUV/CUV? I'm honestly not sure. I think this is more like porn in the Jacobellis v. Ohio Supreme Court decision: I know it when I see it, and this isn't it. On the other hand, the CH-R is something else just as tasty: a better Corolla.
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This car when it was first released about 5 years ago wasn't great. Since then they've made some pretty good improvements. What I don't get is the lack of love this car gets. It's very comfortable, handles well, and is a great little daily driver. It's a great all around daily and actually has some unique styling. It's not a cookie cutter looking car. Early models were lacking and yes there is always room for improvement. However this is a good car for it's intended purpose.
What have been the improvements?
@@th3m3du54 Android auto, Apple car play, 8" screen... just to name a few. There's been others. It depends upon trim line. Plus now they actually have trim line options. It was a mono spec car planned for Scion originally. There's full speed adaptive cruise and all sorts of safety tech like lane trace, lane keep where it will steer, stop you, and start driving again. Pedestrian and bicycle detection... a lot of stuff has been added. It's all standard now. They've changed a lot. It's got dual zone climate standard, heated windshield, etc. You can get heated steering wheel, seats, blind spot monitoring, power folding mirrors, one touch up down for all windows. Like I said, they're not bad cars.
@@jeeperwill6262I've got 90% of that in my 2017 model
I love the exterior. I test drove one several years ago and thought it was too soft and mushy on the road. Also, the back seat felt like being in a dungeon.
As a owner of this vehicle I will say it’s best for a single person or maybe a couple, not a family or somebody that has to haul a lot of cargo daily. You can definitely tell this car was designed around the drivers experience not so much for the passengers which I appreciate because I’m the only one usually in it. The limited trim model is actually worth it because you have an eight way power adjusting driver seat the seat is extremely comfortable and just hugs you. I will say I am 5’9” and weigh around 168 this car would not be great of someone of substantial horizontal size might feel a little bit squashed but with that said there’s plenty of headroom throughout. It’s a fantastic little car are you gonna be doing burn outs at stop lights absolutely not but I find the CVT to be very smooth for a 2 L four-cylinder. The CHR looks and feels way more expensive than what you’re gonna pay for it compared to the other vehicles in this category.
My wife owns a C-HR Limited and I know from first hand that there’s a reason why these thing don’t sell all that well. Simply put, the C-HR is just not a big car. Virtually everything dwarfs the C-HR inside. Toyota also did a poor job marketing this car and really should have offered it with AWD and a Hybrid.
But like most things, when you live with it you get to understand it. And with that, I’m actually gonna go up to bat for the C-HR. You can actually live with this car. My wife (who’s name is also Alex lol) has had the C-HR for 2 years and we’ve carried dressers, countless ikea trips, and we’ve hauled plywood from The Home Depot several times (3’x5’). She also had roof bars which further expands the usability. I say if you like it, buy it. It’s good for a small family of 3 but you really shouldn’t push it much more than that.
My wife bought one based on its looks (so superficial aye) . It's the 1.8 litre hybrid and it gets 60mpg combined hilly/highw driving. Not bad for a lead foot.
I looked at the CH-R before I settled on the Kia Soul. All wheel drive isn't 4 wheel drive and after getting stuck in Vermont snow a couple of times in my 2017 Forester I realized that AWD is overblown and not necessary in 99% of driving situations. Room? The Kia Soul has more interior space than my Forester did and blows the CH-R away. The clucky Subaru entertainment meant it constantly lost my blue tooth connection. Kia's works and works and works. The Forester's clutch blew out at 30k so we will see how long Kia's lasts but it just seems better made. Plus it's not as expensive. I get better mileage than rated BTW.
I don’t know why Toyota don’t sell this hybrid AWD like they do in Europe
The gas version already sells poorly, hybrid CHR will cost more, people who buy a car in this segment don’t want to pay more for something unnecessary, like AWD, bad MPG, or Hybrid power train that costs $2000+ more.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 the Niro sells pretty well as a subcompact hybrid
I test drove one early in 2020, I would have purchased it if it were hybrid and AWD with a sunroof. I decided on a totally different Toyota.
This feels like something they threw out there because everybody else was. It's strictly a bargain offering, and hybrids aren't seen as appealing to.the young (for no good reason).
@@gondorian1006 Kia has a weird magical ability to make niche vehicles successful. For instance, The Soul's success compared to other mini-boxes is unprecedented and is the only one of its kind left now. They do have better marketing than Toyota and Honda so maybe that helps?
The most comprehensive comparison review I have ever seen! Those looking @ the sub compact SUV segment, this is ur video. This is the best!
how does this get worse MPG than a rav4 that has much more horse power/torque
Because the C-HR is underpowered for its weight and needs the extra fuel just to get moving.
The engine is super outdated, the Corolla's engine is far superior in every aspect.
@@gns942 its the same engine ( 1.8l ) xD only the chr can come with the 2.0 l while corolla stops at the 1.8 btw am talking hybrid engines
The EPA ratings are bunk. The CH-R gets much better than rated. Many private reviewers confirm this with long distance test drives. I can also verify this as I own one.
The most reliable bicycle helmet ever created
Except that despite being a Toyota, Consumer Reports indicates this is one of the lower reliable vehicles in its class. Shame, as I love the styling, and REALLY love the green/white color combo they had in years past.
@@BoopSnoot Consumer Reports as nothing more than a bought out Ad Agency.
Thanks, now I can’t unsee it
@@michaelduke4500 That doesn't make sense, as not only do they not accept any revenue from manufacturers, or advertising, and purchase the vehicles they test themselves, but they rate almost all other Toyota products as top reliability with the exception of the C-HR which they list as slightly below average reliability with low consumer satisfaction rate.
The Toyota Prius for example is still their most recommended in class vehicle for a decade now.
Alex, why the clickbait title? C-HR is not a better Corolla. Corolla is more affordable, has much better fuel economy, more powerful engine, faster 0-60 time, and more fun to drive. The C-HR despite being more like an crossover/SUV, still has cramped rear legroom and tiny cargo space so it doesn't beat Corolla in that department either.
Agreed.
Loving this channel for the comparison size charts they show. And great reviews even about little things. Awesome
Toyota needs to drop this Scion relic and bring the Corolla Cross to North America.
I expect an announcement in the next 6 months.
What about the Yaris Cross?
@@kristians2704 either is better than the CH-R
@@kristians2704 It was make sense to sell that here as well.
The Corolla Cross is bland as hell. The Yaris Cross is slightly more attractive at least. Toyota needs some soul.
My biggest issue with this is that it's way too underpowered. We wanted Toyota reliability and looked at this vs. Corolla h/b - the Corolla with the 169 hp engine is more fuel efficient and much quicker. We also liked the interior design, materials quality, visibility and layout better. Without AWD, why bother with this? I get that this is crossover-esque, but in some cases, I think the Corolla hatch is a more direct and very relevant comparison that I wish Alex made - like he's done with the RAV4 vs. Venza.
Agreed.
Yep, the Corolla hatch not only has the more powerful engine, it also has the CVT with a physical launch gear which makes it faster off the line and also more reliable. This 2021 C-HR has the old-school CVT with no physical launch gear.
To add further insult to injury, the Corolla hatchback also weighs several hundred pounds less than this bloated C-HR which makes it even faster and much more fuel-efficient.
@@braetonwilson4296 - agree with you and +Right Lane Hog for sure. I also felt the Corolla handles better (huge improvement over past Corollas too because of TNGA), and the digital instrument TFT in our XSE is much more attractive than the CH-R set-up.
A lot of haters in the comments.. This car is great and better looking than the Corolla. If it’s not convenient for your lifestyle then it’s not for you.. But don’t knock it!
Thank you for the video. I, myself, am an owner of the 2019 Toyota C-HR. Do you think the hybrid version will ever come to the United States now that gas prices are going to start climbing high?
In Australia, CHR comes with 1.2 Turbo and AWD. There's a 1.8 Hybrid model.
In Australia you can walk right passed this in the Toyota dealership and buy a GR Yaris.
FWD with stability control & winter tires(Nokian Hakkapeliitta) is all I needed over any head gasket eating Subaru.
I love this car! Wish there was one in my garage instead of the HRV, but in Canada it's a deciding factor
BMW tech here. Get a Toyota.
Yes, just not this one. Get a RAV4 or the upcoming Corolla Cross instead.
This reminds me of Toyota Matrix with an upgraded look.
The Toyota Matrix XRS and Pontiac Vibe GT were so much better than this CHR
An uglified Matrix with less rear seat room, cargo space, and performance. The Matrix's only big problem was a truly ugly dash seemingly inspired by a boom box.
I don't think so Alex, I sat in the rear seat briefly and closed the door, and felt claustrophobic, that rear high door line is terrible.
He does note that it's pretty claustrophobic back there. It's such a cramped back seat that I can't imagine who this would appeal to. Add the grotesque styling, uncomfortable front seats, small cargo area, and slow acceleration and it's hard to see who this would appeal to. The super cheap Hyundai Venue is roomier, more comfortable, and better looking, for a direct competitor. It's only major negative is a Spartan interior, but the Toyota is only a little better - it has a proper center console and armrest, but material quality is about the same.
I agree. I think this is a 2 adult car.
We are actually collecting CHR Orange Edition 2.0 litre Hybrid tomorrow. It is the top of the range model in UK comes with every available option Toyota makes including Adaptive LED headlights, dynamic turn indicators, all full LED front and rear, heated steering wheel/seats, Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, Lane assist and adaptive cruise control, JBL sound etc all for £30k after £4k discount. Still a bargain compared to entry level 2 litre diesel German cars that will come with poverty spec without any options and technology.
You're making the smart choice. Here in the USA, we laugh at people who buy German cars because German cars are overpriced unreliable heaps of junk.
I'm jealous. We don't have half those features in US models. Best wishes with it.
Those huge blind spots are a deal breaker for me. I need to see traffic before I change lanes. Yes, I know they have blind spot monitoring, but until cars start driving themselves (and pay for the insurance), I’m still the operator. Thanks for the video, now I know what I won’t be missing!
I haven't noticed blind spots being an issue. Mind you, I drive a truck for a living where rear view mirrors don't exist.
@@samueladams5503 I drive a school bus and rely on my 4 (total) side view mirrors. The problem with many standard side view auto mirrors is there’s STILL a blind spot (in my personal car, I’ve attached fish eye mirrors to eliminate the problem). I still think this design sacrifices safety for style.
If only Toyota would hurry up and bring the Corolla Cross to NA.
agreed!
ill be very happy even with the yaris crosstrek
They’re gonna rebadge this and give us a corolla cross 😆
Anything would be better than this monstrosity. It has nothing going for it but presumed reliability and standard safety tech, and that's just not enough. There are too many better competitors.
This actually deserves a 6sp manual...
The Hyundai Venue had a manual for like six months and now is no longer available. And EVs outsold manuals in 2020, which tells you how the manual is dying. That is beyond sad, and I could not see myself buying any of these underpowered cars with an automatic.
The CHR has a manual in many markets outside the US. While it would be cool, no one would buy a manual CHR in the US/NA...look at how few buy manual Corolla..
@@LearnAboutFlow Why not? Every performance test I've seen in years has shown automatics outperforming manuals. An 8-10 speed autobox or a cvt simply has more gear ratios and can change them more quickly. No big mystery.
@@markmiller3279 Um, please provide proof of your claims in this class. We're not talking Veloster N here.
Nope! It needs to be put to rest!!! RIP!! Bring over the Corolla Cross from Thailand....hurry
Great honest and straightforward review! We have a 2019 C-HR XLE and LOVE it! I also agree about the comment made about the clumsy drive mode selection. There needs do be a dedicated "Sport" button near the drive selector. There are blank buttons there after all. It not only remembers "Eco" mode when you shut it off but it also remember "Normal" mode but not "Sport". For me and my family, what attracted us to this car was its styling, size, safety features and price. Somehow they packed 10 airbags in this little car. We do live in So Cal so not having AWD is not a issue. If people are interested in this car, don't listen to all the hate and drive it yourself. It is a great driving little car and feels more expensive than its list price. I have been seeing more of them on the road now. Recently we came to appreciate having an actual spare tire and not a fix a flat kit. The only issue we have had was a rattling noise from a loose bushing in the exhaust but Toyota fixed that under warranty and we have had zero issues since. For those who got this car and want even more performance I highly suggest getting the TRD Air Intake Kit and TRD Lowering Springs to squeeze out even more performance out of this car. You will give up some MPGs but for us the added performance was worth it. We have the parts and will never go back. You can get these parts directly from your Toyota dealership. Again, great review!
2021 Corolla also has 10 airbags. TRD Air Intake Kit is a great idea though considering the C-HR already has worse fuel economy than the Corolla, IDK if reducing the fuel economy even further is smart. Also, one of it's very few advantages is it's decent ground clearance. You neutralize that advantage by using the TRD lowering springs so that makes little sense. You should have just bought the Corolla with the 2 liter engine instead if you wanted performance.
@@braetonwilson4296 Teach each their own. The C-HR is perfect for us. It is not just ground clearance but seating position that is important for us. It sits higher than the Corolla which was an important factor for my wife. My mother is elderly and when I have to go to her house to drive her around the higher seating position makes a HUGE difference allowing her to get in an out easier. As far as getting a Corolla, our 2019 Honda Civic Type R does everything infinity better than any Corolla can. The C-HR and Type R both complement each other well for needs of my family and they both actually fit in our garage which was important. Buy what works for you and your family and don't worry about what other people think. In the end these other people are not paying your bills and they don't have to do what you have to do.
@@StandingUpForBetter I would much rather buy the 2021 Corolla SE sedan over the 2021 Honda Civic Type R. Type R is overpriced with dealer mark-up, has a nasty unreliable direct injected turbo engine, and has had problems with it's manual transmission (gears crunching). Your point at the end is spot on though.
@@braetonwilson4296 We are LOVEING our Type R. It has made both my wife and daughter car enthusiasts. No problems with reliability and no issues with gear crunching. We are also keeping this for a long time. It is one of the best manuals I have ever driven. In short it drives like a dream and has an incredible amount of room AND we got it at MSRP which is something we could not pass up. Enjoy your rides because we are enjoying ours :)
Blind spot monitoring should be standard even on the LE model.
I can’t think of a reason to buy this. Why hasn’t Toyota brought the Corolla Cross to the US?
Let's hope Toyota spy follow Alex and his followers and read all the comments on here then maybe they might bring over the Corolla Cross. Best if they give it the option AWD for people like me living in the Pacific Northwest with snows.
C-HR is a left over Scion product which is just a placeholder for a real Toyota product like the Corolla Cross.
Yes! They need to bring the Corolla Cross to North America!
The Corolla Cross would make 1000% more sense. I get that Toyota already spent money on developing the C-HR for Scion, but they need to cut their losses and bring the Corolla Cross to the US.
@@panzer_TZ Toyota is bringing the Corolla Cross in 2022 and it will likely replace this C-HR.
I thought it had finally upgraded to the 2L engine & launch gear CVT from the Corolla. Disappointing. And looking at the options, what's the point of the Nightshade edition? Seems expensive for different door handles & badging.
Well, It does have the 2L engine, but it makes less horsepower than the 2L engine with physical first gear from Corolla and Corolla hatchback, which has similar price point, I don’t understand why people would buy CHR than Corolla Hatchback.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 The 2 liter engine in the C-HR is very different from the 2 liter engine in the Corolla. As you wrote, Corolla has a different transmission as well with the physical first gear. Corolla's powertrain is superior in every way.
I get the differences in that this is several years old by now. The Corolla just got the latest 2L and the latest cvt.
That cruise control stack has been in Toyota's part bin longer than I've been alive.
C-HR Toyota hybrid, half saves keep filling up on unleaded Beautiful car, sounds quite. Better for environment. I love mine. The only problem is, that the back passenger seats, not enough leg room or enough space for a shopping trolley in between the back seat of the floor. Also a sliding sun roof would be nice, for the summer.
I got in back of one.... Claustrophobic nightmare. Family still has 2 old Pontiac vibes (Toyota matrix sister) and that feels so much roomier. Be interested if they bring the corolla cross to US.
My Vibe turns 16 this month. The Matrix and Vibe were highly practical, rational and functional designs which is the opposite of this C-HR. Expect the Corolla Cross to arrive when the new Alabama plant comes online within the next year.
No Trunk comfort index??? - Sad face-- Maybe i missed it.
Would it kill Toyota to put a better engine in it?
They should put gr Yaris engine in it
Bonus with the tall doors and kids is that if my kid can't reach the handle I don't trust them to open their door in a parking lot. Therfore stopping my kids from smashing the car beside and my door. Once kids are tall enough to reach the door, they should be responsible enough to open a door without hitting anything
im a mom of two teens looking to get rid of my odyssey. we rarely travel with more than three "adults". I want to fit a full grown human, but im tired of being the default party car when i spend 80% of my time driving dolo
we cant get the Yaris GR, so they should put the 1.6 turbo in this.
The 1.6 turbo and awd in this will sell like hot cakes...
If the Yaris GR came to the US, Honda would cry because it would lose big money for the Civic Type R.
I tested this, and the rear doors are absolutely stupid, way too claustrophobic with those tiny windows.
No comfort for rear passenger and no rear visibility for the driver. Stupid.
I just wish the ch r had a lower belt line and more glass area in the rear to improve airiness and rear visibility
Amen! The overall shape looks interesting on the outside but once you get inside it's cramp. Not even mimi me want to own this stupid CHR. I'm glade Toyota decided to drop this poor selling vehicle and bring in the Corolla Crossover but not here in the USA yet. Currently, only available in Thailand cause that's a shame.
I love my
Toyota CHR! It’s a joy to drive!
Agreed
I test drove one and one thing that killed the whole deal was the blind spots ,they are horrible , that design of the rear doors with them placing the door handles that high ,makes all that area so “thick” ,and if you sit at the back you literally can’t see outside,terrible design.
Agreed.
Yup. The back seat is nearly useless. You feel like you're sitting on the floor of a black pit with your knees being crushed. The cargo area is poor, too, so it's not as if that's where the space went.
@@markmiller3279 on top of that , it doesn’t even offer a sunroof for the price , or AWD .
This car also feels bigger than a corolla, but smaller on the inside. What market does this even cater for.
@@MiguelRPD exactly, the Corolla feels bigger in the inside , the CH-R is not well positioned.
Cute car definitely would choose this over a corolla
Pass. I know you got 9.4 sec 0-60, but CD got 11.0 and MT got 10.1. These are all dangerously slow, at least where I live where merging onto highways can be full throttle affairs.
Why not at LEAST put in the updated 2.0 169HP from the Corolla.
It is all about price and MPGs. Getting the price right and hitting that 30 MPG number is very important for this segment. The C-HR is a cross over and is not as aerodynamic as the Corolla form factor and I believe the C-HR is a little heavier than the Corolla because there is physically more car there. Increasing the HP will bump it out of the 30 MPG combined range which is why Toyota offers the first party after market TRD Air Intake Kit which increases torque and horsepower but they don't factor it in with their MPG estimates of the car. The TRD Air Intake Kit allows the engine to breath better but you do give up some MPGs. We have the upgrade and it is well worth it.
Why don't they put the Corolla 2.0 instead of the under powered 2.0, rather have the Corolla hatch.
Exactly! I can't believe Alex called this underpowered overstyled overpriced C-HR the "better Corolla". Puh-leeze!
I've seen & been to one. It's smaller inside than a Corolla. How is that better? I guess if your height is 5'5" & weigh less than 150.
This would be the perfect crossover if it was AWD and had a sunroof just like the new 2022 Toyota Corolla Cross AWD
My thoughts exactly, it really needs a sunroof.
Yes a sunroof will it give it more light since the back windows are very small and leather seats would be a nice option.
For a small engine with a CVT I think that MPG is terrible. My 2017 Impala Gets over 33 MPG Hwy.
hopefully Toyota brings the corolla cross to America .It won't have awd either, but may have hybrid verison.
I’d rather get Corolla
I'm going for Corolla hatchback in 5 or 6 speed manual. Worried about CVT automatic.....
Lmao. "That bobbleheaded feeling"
My mom has a FWD 2019 EcoSport Titanium and it definitely does give that feeling over uneven road and it handles tight enough but it's not confidence inspiring at all 🤧
I actually think the design is really sharp. But that 0-60 of 11 sec just kills if for me
This was really helpful information. Thank you!
I believe that is the slowest 0-60 I have seen in quite awhile.
Slowest seller too!
@blacknester the Chevrolet and Buick sell about twice as many in North America. It is not a good value here.
I dig the aesthetics of this car...
@@notsure1135 you'll love the better selling Chevrolet Trailblazer! Probably cost much less too.
@@normt430 I am in Australia, that car ain’t here. Toyotas are stalwarts, I love how this looks.
I can't think of a single reason to buy this.
I saw the mpg numbers and immediately eliminated it from consideration. You get better fuel economy from a Ford Escape plus all the room, awd, and a hybrid option...all for a similar price.
There is a picture of the Toyota Corolla Cross on youtube. The vehicle looks good. It looks bigger than everyone thinks. Hopefully it will be in the U.S. for the 2022 model year.
I've been interested in the C-HR since it came out. But I can't accept the weak engine, CVT, (both of which are better in the lower weight Corolla), no sunroof, no manual, and no AWD. Love the styling, but it's hard to justify buying this over the Corolla.
I fully agree. These look so aggressive and sporty but they have absolutely NO sporting intentions. Between the awful visibility, the underpowered and inefficient power train and the higher cost compared to the undeniably more versatile Corolla hatchback its days are numbered in Toyota’s lineup. I wish they would incorporate the Yaris-GR power train and make it a proper competitor to the upcoming Kona N
Isn't this very similar to the Corolla hatchback? The Corolla is a much better choice.
Most of these lifted CUVs drive like crap, too, compared to their compact car versions. But try telling that to your average driver "I can't see waaahh"
CHR has only 0.8 inches more ground clearance than Corolla Hatchback, if the reasoning for people to buy CHR is because of ground clearance, then it doesn’t make much sense, because the difference is barely noticeable. I simply don’t understand the actual reason. Even though Corolla hatchback is also cramped, but at least better than CHR in other areas.
@@GoodMenstruationAttitude Drove both before I bought the CHR. Glad I went with the CHR. Prices of these went up, and forget about negotiating. They won’t.
Alex, Can we agree to call this a #CrossUnder ? I expect we won't wait too long for the Corolla Cross and Yaris Cross to meet Toyota's 'obligation' to the small CUV market. In the meantime, the Corolla hatch offers an extra 10 mpg, 25 extra hp, a manual option and much better visibility for less money. Lastly, the C-HR is very popular in Europe but so are French and Italian cars :-()
I really wish that Toyota would make this vehicle available in hybrid form for the US market. Even the Corolla hybrid is available with a higher trim level in the neighboring Canadian market; why not here? I think Toyota is being a bit shortsighted in not making more of these options available to the US market.
Agreed.
I have 2018 C-HR and here's my take on it.
The Bad:
The engine is extremely under powered, CVT on it is HORRIBLE, rear seat is a joke, rear windows look good from outside but inside is another story, interior is too dark, trunk room is poor because the way the hatch is designed, NO AUTO DOOR LOCKING (doors do not lock automatically when you start driving the car), poor fuel economy - car is heavy for this crappy engine, extremely poor visibility with HUGE BLINDSPOTS, loud cabin with lots of road/wind noise, side mirrors have a design flaw - if you;re driving with your windows rolled down you will hear the whistles when wind hits the side mirrors, the gloss black interior trim is finger print and dust magnet, the plastic trims on doors and dash is off poor quality and there is a decoloring on few spots, the USB/AUX controls are too down hidden that you can't even see them, the cup holders are oddly shaped - one cup holder is too far stretched and the other one is too close to the center console that you have to stretch your arm between the seats to easily reach the cup to take out of the cup holder, 2018 cam with an ancient stereo with no AA or Apple Car play and the rear view mirror display was cramped in the rear view mirror, collision warning system malfunctions in rain and snow
The Good:
Good looks, seats are very comfortable and lumbar support is a bonus, All auto windows up/down is good, handles extremely good on corners and feels more like a hatchback than a crossover, nice wheels on Premium model, technology like blind spot monitoring, rear traffic alert, collision warning and adaptive cruise work perfect
This is niche car, they know it wont sell much in north america and more in Europe. It is not meant to dethrown the Rav4.
So you're saying a used Juke would be better?
@@jayhiggins5239 A used juke Nismo would be better but Nissan have their own issues to deal with lol. All comes down to what you like tbh...if you want the performance, C-HR is not a great performer. You will have more fun in Juke but only if you like don't mind driving one. I personally like the Juke Nismo but a lot of people find it too ugly to even consider it. So all comes down to what you like.
One thing for sure though, you will save a lot of money if you bought a used Juke
Not only that, but the Backup Camera is located on the left side of the rearview mirror on the 2018 model. Too small.
I looked. I sat in it. I walked away.
The only reason I am not considering the CHR is because it doesn't have a awd system. Had Toyota included it here in North America, it would have been a great car for me
“This is the same screen and button arrangement we find on the RAV4”
That’s not a plus for the CHR, that’s a massive letdown for the RAV4 which can reach $42k in change
At least it works and it has hard buttons and knobs
That can’t be said for the venza w the 12.3in screen m
To me the Subaru Crosstrek is a much better value at a price range of $22K to $28K. More powerful, better ride, quieter, more space and, of course 4 wheel drive.
Great review! 👋👋👋👋. Toyota must bring the turbo anf the hybrid to USA. They should add a moonroof and they should not hide the rear exhaust pipe! They must put the real chrome exhaust pipe and not fake! Then, they will have a perfect, beautiful, funcky modern litle crossover!!!
Thanks for video!
Tho I really think this is the ugliest thing among sub compact SUVs...
Toyota really F’ed up on this. They have this great unique looking vehicle and they messed it up with a lack luster CVT (not even the new one from the Corolla), no AWD, it being several hundred pounds heavier than the Corolla and the terrible back seat view. Seriously. Go sit back there. You can’t see anything on the side as a passenger.
Get a Corolla hatch. Lift it 2-3 inches. You now have a superior vehicle to the CHR.
Edit: This is MORE EXPENSIVE than a Corolla, and it’s less equipped. The hell.
Edit 2: Get a Corolla Cross.
It’s a CUV version of the Corolla. What the CHR should have been. Literally same motor, transmission and much of the interior is the same. Only this has AWD.
Exactly, you're spot on. Alex is dead wrong for stating that the C-HR is a better Corolla.
@@braetonwilson4296 I actually own a 2019 Corolla hatch. Before I got it I sat inside a CHR. It was slow as hell, interior looked dated and overall visibility was terrible. Not to mentioned lacked a lot of features the Corolla had.
Seriously. Anyone wanting a CHR. Go drive the Corolla hatch.
I will say though. It looks NICE on the outside. Inside is ehhh.
One of the worst and most useless cars in its segment. Weak engine, no AWD, no rear legroom, very small trunk, over styled, over priced. Who in their right mind buys these?
Women. Women are crazy about crossovers/SUVs etc. Perhaps to compensate for being small, they like to drive these huge heavy vehicles. Now if they can't afford a RAV4/Highlander, this CHR is nice choice. They would pick a CHR over a Corolla just because the CHR is lifted and looks more like an SUV.
That’s why this car sells poorly.
The Chevy Trax sells more at almost 3 to 1!
@@normt430 Chevy Trax is a lot cheaper than the Toyota C-HR after discounts. You can buy a new Trax for $14,000 after discounts. I would much rather buy a Corolla over a Trax or a C-HR.
Selling very well in Europe, mostly in hybrid form. Styling probably has a lot to do with it. Let's see what happens with it when Toyota introduces the Yaris Cross and Corolla Cross.
This needs a EV version. It's not fair that Japan doesn't want to release the manual GR version in the U.S.
As small as that thing is it's MPG is criminal.
The Toyota CH-R is worse than the AWD Honda HRV, Subaru Crossstrek, and Hyundai Kona 😔
Crosstrek is so much better than this thing, AWD, Space, and Power.
OMG! This is pitiful!
SMH. This crossover is full of compromises, and that 9.4 sec from 0-60 is pathetic. A Hyundai Venue will outrun this thing in 8.8 sec.
@@JT-fq2bl I have to agree, Hyundai venue is a better suv/hatchback than CHR. At least Hyundai has best warranty, much lower MSRP, wireless carplay, gets better MPG.
Man, you can't compare chr to hrv.. you haven't been to indonesia right? Check the price here... chr is about half billion rupiah whereas hrv prestige 400 something rupiah
C pillar from hell.
I don't think you are being fair to hell.
Interesting review. I’m in lockstep with everyone you said...HOWEVER, your title poses the question if this is the better Corolla...and then you NEVER ANSWER IT!!!! IS IT??
I would love to get the Honda, but they need to scrap that infotainment system...worst one I’ve ever used...so sad...their cars are great otherwise. I wish our 2017 CRV would just disappear!! Can’t wait for the RAV Prime to be made in decent numbers to get one. The Toyota infotainment system isn’t anything to brag about though...UNLESS you are coming from a Honda! Then it’s amazing!!!
No it's not and Alex knows it, which is why he never answered it. It was just a clickbait title to get views. Shame on Alex.
Although I own two Toyota a Camry and a Corolla, I would prefer HRV or the Crosstrek over the C-hr. The back seat in the C-hr is only good for children which they can't open the door from the outside so it's basically useless.
That says it all. Expect the Corolla Cross and/or Yaris Cross to come to market soon and really compete in this sector.
Why not build a Camry wagon with this ground clearance ?
They did it's called the Venza
The original Venza was like that.
Maybe you're not old enough to remember but before the venza was an actual Camry wagon. Camry grill Camry doors Camry dash but with a squared off station wagon roof line. Not some leaned in capacity cutting abomination we have nowadays.
The corolla hatchback manual is way better!
Great review as always, but the second it was stated that this is CVT-only, I switched out. The Corolla Hatch is now the one I am looking at, since it has an available Manual Transmission.
I like this little machine
...said no one ever in this comment section except you.
@@normt430 I guess opinions don’t exist in General Motors world
We have one and LOVE it!
@@joskjj3625 no one is high fiving each other over a CH-R.
@@normt430 just like no one is high fiving each other over a general motors product
Change that theme music to something more upbeat, the one now is good for curing insomnia.
Toyota will do whatever to avoid getting their RAV4 out of the sales throne. So they don't give an awd so won't canibalize the RAV4 sales. No wonder this sales so poor in western Canada
It sells poorly everywhere. I doubt many people would see an awd version of this as any competition for a RAV4. They're dramatically different in shape and size. This is really a car, whatever they call it.
It doesn’t sell well not only because it lacks AWD but because the styling is funky and ugly! Plus poor rear visibility, rear roof design is raked (too low), engine lethargic and CVT...enough said! They’d be better jacking up the Corolla with the Corolla-Cross just like what Mazda did with their Mazda 3 turn into CX-30. The CX-30 seems to be doing well for Mazda...
Cannibalize RAV4 sales...ummmm no lol
This is one of the worst vehicles Toyota's brand has produced in many years Looks great, but has no power, is not really efficient, is not roomy, you can't see out of it, it doesn't even offer a moonroof, and in a crossover market, it doesn't offer AWD, or any ground clearance. It does literally nothing well or even decently
Look. All compact SUVs do not have a lot of room in the back. You will see every dealership representative complain about being crushed in every car brand.
Hi Alex, my name is Luis Urbieta and even though no cars are perfect I love the videos. Why doesn't the CHR come with Leather?
It does in the "Limited" trim.
improve. Thanks
Because it's sbitbox
We don't have this in our country... I got the Corolla Cross
I personally have always liked these, probably because it was supposed to be a Scion and not a Toyota. Does anyone know if these will be discontinued?
Hope the designer for its rear doors and quarter panel still has the job after the sales flop. Why would someone create awful visibility, borderline unsafe like this in the name of styling? It is as if they hate all rear passengers in the world.
So more than 50% of people buy fwd vehicles in a class that is 95% fwd. Corporations totally missing the fact that more people would buy AWD if they actually offered AWD. For me, FWD is automatically less desirable than anything that offer any other option.
The design got old real fast. That's the problem with over styled cars, they look fresh at first, but age real quick.
This one looked bad from the very beginning, a complete muddle of crude, disjointed shapes.
Best Toyotas are the Camry and the 4Runner. This model has terrible visibility and makes you feel claustrophobic. Honda H-rv has the same weak engine but has great visibility and has a boxy style that people like right now.
I like the way it looks but my like my CX30 better. It's a luxury feel plus the Mazda has way more power. Also the CVT I've heard can be troublesome.
This car makes ZERO sense, until you in put a Scion badge on it. No, wait, it still makes no sense.
It gets less gas milage than the larger RAV4.
MY EYES OH MY GOD WHY WOULDN'T YOU WARN ME
I don't approve of the title.
Can't wait when this Scion relic gets axed from Toyota's lineup. Corolla Cross is so much better.
It’s just counterintuitive. It’s basic a raised hatchback which is fine if it had space. It’s too tight just like the Mazda CX-3
If you are gonna do a comparison to the Sub=Compact CUV, you can also add the Kia Soul and Kia Seltos. The Soul offers no AWD, and the Seltos does offer AWD.
A bit amazed that this tiny underpowered thing gets really marginal mpg...
It returns pitiful fuel economy for sure. I get 40mpg out of my full sized Honda Clarity sedan when running in HV mode. The CH-R makes no sense at all. Marginal mpg, CVT, underpowered, tiny cargo area. A Corolla hatchback makes far more sense.
Agreed. I though Alex went pretty soft on the issue of the inexplicably poor fuel economy. A neighbor has one and it is a big car with a tiny cabin and trunk. Lot of extraneous body. Just make a Camry wagon or a Corolla wagon and tack on some Crossover styling ( Honda did kind of do that with the Crosstour and it didn't take though ).
Offering a hybrid CHR in the US would probably hurt Prius and Carolla hybrid sales.
As long as the check is payable to Toyota , why would they mind?
what about the CX-30? isn't that a good competitor?
This is worse than the Toyota Matrix in every measurable way. Less room, less cargo space, less fuel efficient, less ground clearance (!), less power. 15 years of progress taking 2 steps back. Yay crossovers.
The Matrix/Vibe was squarely focused on practicality and completed succeeded in that mission. The C-HR was intended to compete with the bizarre French and Italian cars popular in Europe. In Europe it succeeds at that mission and sells well. Over here it is just weird. Many of us are expecting the new Corolla Cross to arrive soon to reclaim the practical space the Matrix once occupied. The Corolla wagon sold in Japan and Europe could also play the role the Matrix once fulfilled but Toyota does not want to offer it to us.