This One Simple Hack Cleaned Our Drinking Water
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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Another day, another problem with our water supply... But this time, we have a cunning plan (actually, our Patrons had the cunning plan, and it's a genius solution).
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00:00 Last Week
01:10 Sailing to Tioman Island
03:17 Anchored in Tioman Island
09:07 Polishing our fresh water
16:54 Outro
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Cruising: the fine art of making repairs in exotic locations...
This is a brand new boat, you paid a fortune for it, as far as I'm concerned the company who built it should step up and replace everything from the ice maker to the pumps and tanks. Good luck, I hope things work out. This is not looking good on the builders and a lot of people would think twice before buying one of their boats.
Why wouldn’t you while at marina just pump all the water overboard, fill up, stir up, dump overboard, repeat, repeat until clean. Use a simple bilge pump. Also use a shop vac with 1-2” water in tank to vacuum up.
They would rather whine and bitch than do the simple cures.
They have to get the boat to Phuket. They were trying to fix it at the marina before they left, but it wasn't the watermaker that was the problem but the tank. I had a similar problem this weekend, dish washer kept turning off mid-cycle, no idea why, took the whole thing apart and found nothing wrong. Put it back in place, still didn't work. Problem: drains were clogged. It's an more common bamboozle than you'd think.
Why would you not start with the most likely fault, drain clogged, rather than tear down and rebuild the whole thing. 😂
Marina water is usually terrible water it goes thru long pipes and hoses in the sun it’s usually not drinking water
@@d-rot Women were watching
You folks are to be commended for truly telling it like it is, warts and all. You certainly show that cruisers have to be yacht knowledgeable, tool and maintenance savvy, capable of handling electrical and plumbing issues - with high degrees of patience and creativity when it comes to problem solving. Hang in there!👏
The amount of boat jobs even on a new build is mind boggling, one would think with a new build everything would work! ... Stay Safe & Fair Winds!! ☘
That’s the mind bender for me too. It’s been one glitch after another since they launched.
You easy solution to your problem is to install a 10" filter housing after your pressure pump. This housing should be clear and house a 1 micron filter. That's right. 1 micron. This will remove everything from your water tank without messing around with a polishing system. We have this as standard on our boat. It is the barometer of your water tank. We have this filter located immediately before a similar 10" clear housing containing a carbon filter. This means that every water outlet on your boat has nice tasting clean filtered water. It also protects the watermaker from chloride should you ever fill up from land based water supplies. The carbon filter lasts longer because of the 1 micron prefilter. We change out filters about every 6 months. You may need to change your 1 micron filter a few times if the tank is as dirty as you believe
Clean fuel and clean water is so important on a boat.
You looked at so many boats and sorry to see you ended up with a lemon!
I can't remember if your boat has a rain water recovery system but if you do that might have been the ingress point. I would hope that it would have a recover/bypass valve. Run the polishing system while under way so the wave action helps stir up the debris. Put some of the freshly filtered algae in clean water and see if it grows. No growth and the algae is dead and the system cleaner worked. Best of Luck.
Sea Wind needs to build the polishing system send it and technicians to you and fix this! Now! Same with the other ongoing issues. They should have never released your boat until it was right.
says the guy who never bought a yacht
Yeah, that's not how any of this works. 😂
@@krionicwhen you pay half a million plus on a boat, you have expectations. The lack of quality control at boatbuilders is quite frankly not acceptable. Being “accepting” of this is half the problem.
@@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk your other option is don't buy a new boat.
@@krionic that’s a poor argument for delivering shitty work from the factory. Custom work that is. And because apparently it’s all builder not just one, they all should work on their quality control.
Warranty work costs a lot more than doing it right the first time. This is a financial issue for builders as well. And they are businesses, so it’s literally all about money.
Maybe Seawind could be the first Catamaran company to sell a Ultrasonic Transducers in the water tanks to effortlessly mix and filter the water.
Tioman looks like its changed a lot since I was there in the 80's with the Royal Navy. I remember anchoring off with a host of US, Aus, Malayasian and Kiwi warships and then jumping into a RIB and driving enmasse for the beach. The look on the locals and tourists faces when they looked up from their sun beds to see hundreds of hairy ar*ed matelots steaming for the shore with a fleet of warships on the horizon is something that still makes me chuckle.
With that level of mess, you need a couple strainers before filter and if you can fashion even a siphon get that bulk out of the bottom of the tank.
Basic pool maintenance...
Given the effort that Seawind went to in designing and building the cat but leaving the tanks and lines full of crap and the washers etc. not checked is IMHO a reflection on them - they specified the water makers, they installed and built the system in their boat and they sent it out as completed with their stamp of approval (to be fair if I ever buy a new boat I'm checking the water system myself after this!). Filtering it might not work because if there's large sediment particles at the bottom fo the tanks you might not get them all out. If you don't have inspection hatches you can unbolt you might need to cut some and then wash and hoover out the tanks directly and THEN flush the pipes
Do Ya'll ever miss the days of drifting thru the canals and passing the locks one after another? Only real issue i remember from those good old days was the grass or weeds wrapped around the prop. I Know the dreams of a bigger boat and the time spent following it's build has seemed to leave you guys spending more time doing repairs and fixes on a new boat and much more thwn the old one. Either way i still enjoy the adventures
Fair is fair and I accept there will be issues with a new boat that are not necessarily the fault of the builder. That said, to me, contaminated water tanks seems to be on another level of just plain wrong.
thats what happens when you have 3rd world workers build a million dollar boat
Employed by 1st world capitalist's who can make more money from said 3rd world workers.
@@krionic That's why it's a million dollar boat. If it was built by first worlders it would be a two million dollar boat.
The tank manufacture should have cleaned the tank out before sending it to the boat manufacturer .. After the tank was installed it should have been cleaned out again .. Then .. Before handing the boat over .. The tank should have been cleaned out a 3rd time for good measure .. Just one more thing to put on the list for Seawind to do in their hand over list
@@krionic But the boat builders don't put the water in the tank. They have got some crappy water from somewhere.
Sounds like you need to pipe in whole house filter on your tank outlet. I think that’s what you are using I would probably run another on a hose before the other devices to make sure it’s out of the lines.
You should have on the input too.
Double whole house filters on input work amazing.
Is that a rain collection tank? Its contents certainly look as though it is. I'm wondering if it is and has been plumbed incorrectly.
@6:37 I can't get enough of that feeling! I wish I felt like that all the time.
The boat is under warranty ---- Demand they correct the issue, At a port and time, that you and the manufacturer can agree upon.
Wonder what may be in your fuel system?
Now that you have proved out the water polishing system give a thought at least as to whether you will ever use water you did not make on board in your tanks. If that is at all likely, make some provision for a properly plumbed filtration arrangement. Remembering also that a good carbon filter will remove chlorine if any gets into the system.
Land sickness , I have never gotten seasick, but I get landsickess every time I do a passage over three days.
I get “land sickness” every time I leave the bar. I think it must be the air or something, weird….
its called disembarkment syndrrome
That's a fancy door lift!
G'day, from Hastings Australia. cheers Rustie..
What has become clear in all these videos is that yacht builders gotta plan far better regarding less than ideal boating-cruising circumstances. Not all water is going to be clear and pseudo pristine before it comes on board. Sometimes it’s gonna be silt filled, sandy, muddy - or outright crap. They have got to have far better pre-cleaning and filtration options, higher capacity filters, and simplicity of design and maintenance throughout. Difficult parts, odd hoses, and weird bits in inaccessible places is not ideal! 😮
I also personally feel that the whole “flecks of fiberglass, grit, and gelcoat” thing shouldn’t have been yours to solve at all. That’s on the builder to have done, and made sure it was taken care of. They owe you for that: it’s cost you a lot of time, effort, and money!
I always enjoy when I’m having my morning coffee and see that you’ve uploaded a new video.
Enjoy your coffee mate
Thanks so much for this video folks. We had a weird one. Some sort of water treatment left a yellow sediment in our tanks. A brand new toilet brush managed to stir it up. I pumped the water out and gave it a blast out. We use only filtered water for drinking but because I saw this video I tried to remember when I changed the filter. Thinking, thinking....never. Off to Bunnings on Monday! I must make one of those water polishing filters up. Brisbane water already has built in "character".
Go today, there’s a sausage sizzle !
Always a unique experience stepping on land after you've been used to the ocean for several weeks. I think all of us experience that notion of motion when there is none. The other odd thing especially if you're in a monohull is looking at everything on land that's not tied down and secure. Our brains are incredible creations.
Nick`s `mk.1 eyeball` for the win!
This reminds me of a new hotel I stayed in. I must have been the first person to turn on the heat because there was so much sediment in the ducts it set off the fire alarm.
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Maby consider loading tank with ice cubes on ruff day with plenty of boat movement ...cycle that crap out....
The secret of happiness is when life meets, or exceeds, your expectations. So low expectations do help.
I always enjoy watching your channel. Thanks for sharing your experience, good and bad. I am sure that your plate is full with filming and getting the videos ready. Until next time, safe travels.
The fitting you need for the housing is those fittings you throw away when you have those hoselock tap fittings... the bush converts 3/4 to 1/2 inch.
Nice, -- SOLUTION -- If you want to agitate the water in the tank, get your power drill and attach a paint stirrer to it. Then "stir" the water. The attachment is cheap and about two or three feet long and will mix up that water totally as it is designed to mix together paint colors in 5 gallon buckets. Water will be easy.
That's not what James Bond would do
Also running the polisher while sailing will keep the water agitated. Rough weather good.
@@jackblah5842 ..LOL... but believe me, that metal paint stir would whip up that water better, probably, than anything else - essentially a small metal propeller on a metal rod. Paint is thick like mud before we mixed it and the drill would stir it perfectly. Best mix solution you will ever find and easy to use.
@@jackwickman2403 ,,,maybe.
@@Coleen-Love Shaken not Stirred
I hope seawind realize that this a big stuff up
That they ensure that it does not happen on other boats.
You have been troopers. Truly. Not having water is huge.
You guys are my favorite sailing channel . I have been a subscriber for a very long time and love to watch you deal with the challenges of a life at sea. Now you have moved to the next level and even more fun. There is nowhere out of your reach and I plan on being with you all the way! No more free rides, I will be joining your patreon soon! 🐬🐬🐟
You two crack me up, your perfect for each other, for the most part mild tempered and easy going! Stay safe, enjoy the journey!
BRILLIANT..!
I agree. While in teh marina, drain the water tank then with the MArina's water hose spray into the water tank to disloge and stir up the sediment. Keep just enough water for teh pick up to work. Continue until all teh crap is flushed out and overboard.
You guys are the best. Great video and awesome editing as usual. You're living the dream!
Pulau Tioman has certainly changed since I was there in 1970.
Great Edit. Making good content is a lot harder than folks think it is. Editing is such a tedious task. Thanks for sharing your awesome edits. -EZ
I appreciate it!
@@sailingrubyrose Is the Sailrite onboard RRII?
Hello and Thanks for posting Theresa,
Yum as always.
And hello to Nick.
Cheers, SV Good Karma as Grins in the summer humid heat of Sint Maarten area.
Really enjoyed watching!
I have an island packet. The aluminum tanks prevent using chlorine. We use food grade hydrogen peroxide as a water treatment to prevent algae. I will use your idea for the water tank cleaning. I have pumped it out annually, but a polishing is a great idea.
Excellent call. Can you give an idea of how much peroxide per hundred litres or however you work out how much to add please?
@@soggybottom3463 Depends, how long are you expecting to live?
So satisfying to see the progression of filters, hope it got clear for you, what a pain!
Are you pre-polishing the fuel before putting it in the tanks? You never know what is in a dirty jerry can or when was the last time the fuel truck got cleaned out in "exotic" locations. Hot and humid + Diesel is a bad combo.
this is all pretty much SOP when you buy a new yacht. The good news is you will know your boat and you will learn your boat, you will figure out how fix/repair/operate your new boat (such as how to anchor a catamaran). Personally, I'd never buy a new yacht and take it out of the shipyard and go cruising. I'd hang out in local waters getting the boat right. But, I know you guys have to get your boat to a boat show or something in Europe to show it. Hopefully, you got a good deal from Seawind for that inconvenience.
Taking delivery and staying in the country where the boat is built may mean that you have to pay tax to that country. If the boat is exported it can change your tax situation. It may be worth it to pay tax and get the boat debugged at the factory.
Enjoy going past Singapore. I was based there and once sailed from Borneo past Singapore up to Langkawi.
All under sail (no motor what so ever).
High pucker factor.
Nick, you need a DIY version of a Gama Jet from Alfa Laval to power wash the inside of your tanks and a wet vacuum to suck out the dregs. I've used them in oil and gas to clean large tanks. 360 Rotary head attached to a pressure washer with bio-friendly soap.
That’s like a whole house filter that I have in my house. Maybe you should install one in line leaving the water tank.
I told you before!!! You should have bought a Privilege!!!!
Underwater lights looked great in the intro. Frustrating with the water issues. Hope you get sorted. Wonder if hull one has similar problems.
'This is my plan'
'Oh god!'
😂
Where are you two from originaly, only been following a few months. Keep it real as you seem to do and dont change.
You guys are awesome! I enjoyed this episode very much. I always love seeing people solve complex issues with what they have on hand. Very cool 😎
Thanks for taking me along again 😊
Thanks mate
So glad that you had ample stock of filters and that the fix is in progress. All other branches off main water supply will also need to be cleared of particulates so that your failed equipment can be restored. Brilliant solution. It’s nice to note that land legs exist. Thanks for the sweet ride.
Hope that finally got your water system cleared up. Look forward to next weeks episode
As for line weights for fishing, I like the cigar ones that I add a snap swivel to and can clip in front of the lure and main fishing line
Micro plastics are only a problem when you think they are a problem.
Personally, I think they are quite tasty and give the water a bit more mouthfeel. We should bottle it and sell as “premium enhanced” water.
Clean water and clean fuel are so important. LOL as we see them taking on rubbish fuel from dirty jerry cans from an unknown source on a remote island at 9mp at night … I can see the next episode in the making. Smart money, given 60% remaining in tanks and on their way to Phuket would be to sail another 120 miles to Singapore and take on clean fuel and clean water from a 5 star Marina.
I am just surprised that boat builder does not do two basic things that are very important , they do not wash the hull or install a water tank polishing system by default.
I hope that the polish fixes that water issue!
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My goodness. You haven't popped up on my UA-cam feed for a long time!
Terysa, you do not look terrible Sweetheart, you always look lovely. You have lost weight tho', hope you're alright? Nick, stop fixing things with a pound-shop glue gun and get drinking!
Polishing assume you want to reuse the water...what you need to do is multiple 100% "FLUSHES"...and please verify there's nothing going on within your water system generating the debris.
Question. do you think you would ever go back to a mono hull after experiencing the comfort of a Catamaran?.
For small harbours yes of course
I would add a suction strainer to the pump inlet to catch the big lumps and not have them run through the pump my RV has one with 1/6" mesh stainless steel screen in it.
There is a product used for sanitising brewing equipment called sodium per carbonate , they claim no rinse necessary, could be good to flush the system.
I would say .. Keep your nifty water polisher for future needs if needed .. No need to rebuild the wheel when you already have it
There is a reason the boat acronym says bring out another thousand. For those that demand that the manufacturer be accountable is justified BUT it is like a marriage relationship. There is give a take. If you “demand” things the manufacturer can make your life extra difficult. Slow responses, no parts available etc. As a boat owner you have to create a relationship that works both ways. It’s not like you can go to a local dealer and trade in because you are not satisfied. It is a complex relationship that requires diplomacy from both sides. I feel for Nick because I experienced the same thing with our Spectra and decided to change it out. It is not easy- supply chain issues, costs etc. the cruising community is VERY small.
Put in a submersible pomp to move the water and therefor the dirt.
We polished our fuel and did the same with the water tank but we emptied it and went in with a vac to pick up all the crap the refilled and did the filtration system, it just cut down the time it took to filter it
Land sick is worse than sea sick for me. . .why I like to stay offshore once there!!
Potable water system not potable due to poor workmanship where the potable water system is concerned. This was a mistake on plumbers part? Now you have to polish the water after you use the system? How can a world cruising boat make it through inspection? You guys are way more forgiving than you should be. Potable water is a necessity for a healthy life especially when doing what the boat is built to do. You guys either have great prescriptions and or patience of a saint with a expendable time while creating, planning and reaching your goals!
Every Desal I have ever worked on had 3 stage filtration, usually a sand or wire gauze strainer then 2 cartridge filters 10um and then 5um. You should not have any visible material getting to your pressure pump at all
I'm surprised there isn't a whole boat filtering system for your drinking water. Seems like it's something you should add along with a UV purifier. That's what most people have with shallow wells on land to clean their water.
Dude just get in there with a Shop-Vac
Good idea. A shop vac as the first step will get 90% of the crud quickly. Then start filtering to get the rest of it.
Someday you might want to disinfect your system too. 4mg/L of Chlorine is used in the US for city water systems. You can use higher concentrations to sanitize the system if you thoroughly flush the system with known clean water after you are done.
Why don't you use the dinghy pump and pump directly from the tank. Pump as much as you can. Add a few inches of water and pump that out. Repeat until clean. Then deal with the lines thru-out the boat.
You might want to polish your water while sailing in rough seas, which will constantly stir for hours.
that's an impressive tender.. very spiffy.. to steal from Mads..
Glad that you figured out the water problem. Water filters are an astounding way to see what is really in the water. Can that water filter system be added to your current system? So that you would be filtering it twice until you're able to clean the tanks?
Just wondering. Have you put any chlorine in the water tank? I know it’s not optimal but, neither is the current situation.
Chlorine will kill germs and algae but won't do anything to remove particles. Stuff doesn't disappear when chlorine hits it, it just dies. The dead material is still there and needs to be filtered out.
Progressis being made with the water system.
If there are microplastics in your water, can you imagine what's in the fish!! I have seen first hand the amount if microplastics that a researcher found in a fish stomach!!
I think I would have been tempted to dump the water during your passage the movement of the boat would have kept the SHoneT suspended and therefore once the tank was empty most of it should have been gone.
Then fire up the water maker on the passage maybe half-fill the tank let it slosh around a bit, and then dump that as well.
Only once the tank had been refilled again would I have used the polisher.
Sounds like a rigmarole, but I think trying to clean the debris out of the water in the tank will take forever.
01:00 something reddish bobbing, off of port bow?
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I love receiving your videos and watching your travels❤️. Question I have is based on Canadian requirements, when I was looking for a potable water tank I was hard pressed to find one that was certified for potable water. When I chatted with a plastics shop they explained that they could make the tank I was looking for but it would not be certified for potable water due to the grade of material they used. So did your tank come certified for potable water, if not that may indicate why you are having the issues you are. I hope you find the solution❤️❤️
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Great to see you getting all the water tank issues sorted. Given that there is actual hard matter in the tank, wouldn't it be worth getting is drop out and blasted clean? If not you might be going through filters PREMATURELY for the next two years or more - and what would that cost in filters when buying them in the Med.?
I don't understand why you wouldn't spend more time in that region if you are enjoying it. Especially since it's (I would assume) rarer content compared to Mediterranean stuff.
I do wonder about the viability of Seawind as a company going forward, it's not a good look for them, with all the problems you seem to be having with your boat. You should be charging them for all the repair work you do!
Being RR is boat no. 2 .. Seawind is getting all the info from RR and fixing these issues on the boats after RR .. So .. RR is a test bed for all the other ones coming out of that factory
Having now spent some time on the catamaran, what are your thoughts about slicing through the water in a mono hull versus bobbing on top in catamaran?
Merci beaucoup!!!
I loved the going on shore …exploring…it is great fun to see what is available…
Make longer or release more frequently videos is a request of adoration of your adventures!
Always a Pleasure….
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Viel Spaß
Dankeschön
Many Blessings of Love upon your Holy Waters!
Land sickness, been there, done that and it is very, very weird. I only got it though after about 6 weeks at sea.
Glad to see the water polishing has worked. Do you think it’ll be a permanent fixture now or jury rig as and when needed?