There’s one reason people are angry about Isabelle and one reason only. Because it’s not the character that they personally wanted. That’s how it’s always been with new characters
Maybe she wouldn't have got as much hate if the Direct wasn't so underwhelming for some people. You're right in a way but some people are thinking differently.
InsertDecentName I know where you’re coming from but see how you’re saying she’s a waste of a character slot? The only way a wasted character slot is bad is if you’d prefer another character to be in that slot That’s the point I’m making here. It’s not a problem with Isabelle herself
GEEKFOREVER Agree with you there. I’m generally saying that when you think about it, the only reason any of us are upset with characters is because we want other ones
@InsertDecentName "Random secretary bitch"? Isabelle is the face of one of Nintendo's most popular and successful franchises. She's the head of the Animal Crossing Twitter page, she was in Smash 4 as both an assist trophy and a mii fighter costume, she guest starred in MK8, she was the starter figure in Amiibo Festival, etc. She's an extremely relevant and promoted character and essentially a Nintendo icon at this point. Besides the Inkling, she was probably the most important Nintendo character not playable in Smash yet. I'm not even hyped for her myself, but to say that she is a random or unimportant character is ridiculous. Not everything revolves around what you think or know.
I think Isabelle is a tier above Dr Mario in uniqueness. She’s about as different from Villager as Wolf from fox or Lucas from Ness. Or even Luigi from Mario, though Luigi is probably a bit more distinct compared to Mario. Anywho, She has some standard attacks that are borrowed, some that are unique, and she has some specials that are obviously derivative but also function quite differently. Whereas, Doc has most of the same moves with the exception of just one standard, one special, and different movement and hit box properties.
Did you know that you cannot quantify the word unique or different. Weird right? But you can quantify persay the number of differences? What? Mind blown.
@BallBoy Yeah. You cannot quantify uniqueness because there is no such thing by that definition. Something is either unique or it isnt. It can't be more of the only one of it's kind, and the same goes with the word different. It cant be less not the same. But you can highlight multiple differences to create a sum. But that sum will always be the same - unique or different and not more and not less
@BallBoy Of course, most of that is true, but you cant say that something is more unique than something else or less different than something else. It can only be properly said as: it is unique or it is different Of course these differences and similarities can be built up to something that has more things the same than different or vice versa but you cant state it as if it is less unique or less different than something else. That's improper use of these terms
Reasons why Isabelle deserves her spot in Smash Ultimate: -AC is one of Nintendo's most popular and best selling series today and despite that it only had one representative in Smash. -She is an extremely popular character among AC fans. -Even though she has appeared in just one main game of the series (New Leaf), she plays a major role in that game. -She has become the poster girl of the AC series. -More female fighters are always welcomed. -She likely performed very well in the Smash Ballot.
A lot of people don't play animal crossing though, I mean I've known about the game for the few years it's been a thing and I still don't know where Isabelle came from. It's just not an exciting series that's partially the reason why people are upset now, that Nintendo is wasting their time with Animal Crossing while they can be utilizing as many people to try and make Smash the best it can considering this smash may be the last.
I can go darker, Villager has slowly been torturing the other animals with slingshots, nets, pitfalls, slowly driving them under his foot. Isabelle caught on and confronts him, unfortunately she hadn't realized how unhinged he really was and he punished her with unspeakable means. Trying to hold on to her sanity, Isabelle slowly developed an ignorant bliss in the form of Stockholm syndrome and served him. when villager left for smash Isabelle slowly recovered and aided the other animals in their recoveries as well. only to have an order show up in the mail forcing her to join villager in smash. Now she puts aside the safety she has in order to end the abomination that has plagued her. (also tom nook is Hitler, have fun!)
I hate when people say " No one asked for this character." When in all reality there probably just as if not MORE wanted then a character you want in smash.
She was definitely requested by many but not as much as other characters, which some would (in a certain way) make more sense. (Skull Kid, Geno, Ken, Shadow, ...) That's also to be considered.
@@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 While your not wrong, it still gives no one the right to say that any of them are a waste of space. Mind you, I dont play animal crossing. But I'm stillglad she got in as she's been highly requested.
Okay, Geno is not as present in video games but he's highly requested and Sakurai himself wants him in and Skull Kid is also requested and is an iconic villain of an iconic games.
People are far fetching what echo fighters are. As someone who knows how games are made and how 3D assets work, I can tell you the definition of echo fighter is obvious to me, and actually quite simple. An echo fighter is a character that reuse most of another one animations, saving the development team a lot of animation work. That's it. _And animations are a lot of work in Smash, echo fighters can probably be done in half the time, compared to regular fighters._ Dark Pit, Lucina, Daisy, Richter, Chrom, and Dark Samus use like 99% of the animations of their respective original characters (I mean, the animation data, from the same files, or copies). Meanwhile, Dr Mario, Isabelle, and all the clones or semi-clones all have their own animations (with different data, even if they're only slightly different, they're still whole new data). An exemple : Link, Young Link, and Toon Link spin attacks may look the same, but they don't use the exact same bones rotations, therefore the artists have to make each one separatly.
Eric Meldonian I also have a theory why Dr. Mario is not a echo. First of all Dr. Mario is just Mario, he’s like a costume swap, like Samus and Zelda before, yet they are in fact the same person, it’s just Mario in a costume. You can argue that with Dark Samus and Pit, but unlike Dr. Mario they are literally clones, while Dr. Mario is still Mario, like Samus and Zelda. So in conclusion an echo fighter has to be entirely different from the character they’re based, they have minor changes. Dr. Mario is still different from regular Mario unlike Dark Pit. Isabelle is way too different for Villager so I’m glad they didn’t echoed her. PS. Also a theory; the reason why Chrom is an echo, is because we have too many FE char. No hate, if I was Sakurai adding another swordsman while trying to differentiate moves form one another is rather tiring, so it’s a safe bet they made Chrom an echo of Roy
That's why I said _most of the animations_ and not -all the animations.- They're still gonna rework some of them if they feel they should, but reworking a few animations amongst hundreds is no big deal. They gave Dark Samus the floating idle/walk/run to make her more faithful to the character, but you can see she goes back to Samus anim as soon as she does anything else. And for Chrom, honnestly, I think they cheated here : I think Marth, Roy, and Ike have the same skeleton to begin with, so Chrom can borrow animations from any of them. Also Sakurai stated that each echo will have its own taunts.
Don't know why some people here think Smash ISN'T good for the attention and marketing of their characters. Before Melee and Brawl, I had no idea who Captain Falcon was... or Ice Climbers, Pit, Ness, Lucas, Marth, Roy, Olimar, etc. Hell, I didn't really even know who Snake was. Sure, I may have seen some of these characters or a bit of their games. But never have I played the games, nor gotten to know the characters. From that point, I've fallen in love with Fire Emblem and Metal Gear. And I know that pretty much all these characters have wonderful games. (And if Nintendo needs more villains I personally vote for Black Shadow because F-zero needs more love) New people are going to see characters, like Isabelle, and if they love Smash just as I do, they're going to be curious about who these fighters are. Thus, more attention are brought to these games. In short, Nintendo knows how to wring money of out people.
Isabelle looks fun, her attacks look indirect and she’s just here to have fun, which really fits her personality and is something new for SSB. Complaining about it doesn’t really help anything but bring more toxicity to the Smash Community, which is already a problem.
anything where there's competition will eventually breed toxicity on the internet. anything where there's opinions will eventually breed toxicity on the internet. anything where there's internet will eventually breed toxicity on the internet. i almost deleted this pessimistic post without submitting it because i don't like to be a downer but the absurdity of it made me laugh a bit so i'm posting it anyway
trekman1701 you’re right but this is supposed to be a community of people enjoying Smash Brothers for letting us fight as characters we’ve appreciated throughout Nintendo’s history, not a group of people suddenly wanting Nintendo to cater to their every need.
We got Ridley, K Rool, OoT Ganondorf, Cloud, and Snake all in one Smash Bros game, and people are complaining. Can you people not be grateful for all the hard work Sakurai is putting into the game? Isabelle is a popular character from a popular series. Your character still has a chance. Rather than being upset, be happy for everyone who wanted her in the game. (As for me, Isabelle is gonna be my new main)
I'd say that it's more like the Luigi treatment. Isabelle has a few wholly unique moves and completely different characteristics. Luigi is like Mario but has a few wholly unique moves and completely different characteristics; you see my point?
Before Isabelle: WE NEED ISABELLE RIGHT NOW WE WILL TAKE HER AS ECHO BUT NEWCOMER WILL BE EPIC}{After Isaballe: What the hell Nintendo she doesn't deserve to be in smash
people don't understand that when that happens you are just hearing the loud people. both of those statements are made from different people. one half of the people complained that she is not in it so the other half stayed quiet. but now since she is in it that quiet half is vocal. thats how this works. i don't know why people are always surprised at this happening
No man, that trailer was boring as sin. I'd rather have newcomers being introduced alongside other Nintendo icons than just them getting a fucking letter.
I think Isabelle will be fun. What are your thoughts on seeing Birdo, Petey Piranha, Shy Guy, and Paratroopa being added to Mario Tennis Aces alongside the Ring Shot mode and New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe?
I think they'd all be good additions to the roster, I believe all except Petey were confirmed. The new mode looks like it could be fun and the only interesting part of NSMBU is that peachette thing lol
That is untill you consider the lore peachett brings: Ask yourself this, why does peach rule over a bunch of mushrooms (don't ask matpat) the answer: because she used TO BE ONE evidence: nintendo stated many years ago that a "female toad" is just a variation of toad and that toads have no genders. Now we see that the "female" variation can become "human" (or whatever mario's race is called now) after attaining a ROYAL mushroom. these "toadetts" can be promoted to a ruling variation that the other toads follow and gain a weird ability to float (both peach and peachett do this) now why peach and peachett look different, probably a further form of of metamorphosis, also they seem to carry their own form of hairstyle with them through the process One issue, There is information that suggests peach is Rosalina's mother and either mario or luigi is her father, this wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for the fact that we have seen Rosalina as a child with no sign of a mushroom hat. to counter, Nintendo also stated that that was the original intention (Rosalina's relation) but was scrapped, therefore proving the theory false (it also involves convoluted time shenanagens to happen which is a bit complicated for writers of a non-rpg mario title) this leaves Rosalina simply having a mother with a similar hairstyle to peach, and a new cannon more focused on explaining toads rather than fulfilling fanfics. (also rosalina COULD be Peach's daughter, and because the lucky Mario bro is a "human" or whatever, the hybrid shares strictly human properties, which is the sort of macabre stuff Nintendo would normally do)
DOES SHE RIDE A GYROID?DOES SHE HAVE A BOWLING BALL?DOES SHE HAVE A SHOVE?DOES SH HAVE FIREWORKS? No.She only has the pocket(seems legit),the up B(that might be different) the dash that seems it doesn't go as far.SHE is more unique compared to young link to the old Twilight Princess Link,Dr mario to Mario and Luigi,Pichu to Pikachu and Ganon to Cptain falcon.She deserves to be called a CLONE and not Semi clone...
Lucas shares 3 of Ness specials....is he not a semi clone now?, Falco and Wolf share half of Foxes moves are the not either? Toon Link shares ALL of Links moves..but he's not an echo...so where is your argument going?
This thinking of "This character shouldn't be in Smash because my character should be in that slot" is pretty stupid and egoistical. I want with all my heart for Masked Man or at least Ninten as an echo to be in smash but i don't get mad for another character to get in even when they are from a series that i usually don't play because i know that there's people who loves them as much as a love my games and my characters, so i feel happy about them too. But in Isabelle's case it's just pretty much ignorance of these people, Animal Crossing is one of Nintendo's main series and apart from the game coming next year Isabelle has been the face of the series since her debut in New leaf, she totally deserves to be her own character and represent her series and fans. it's a big role that she fills with eficiency.
If it sells well i don't that's a problem to worry about,but Sakurai did say that bring all this ncharacters from another companies can be quite dificult in next instailments.Still that's not a excuse for such behavior.
Lancorve You saying that it might be the last is like saying that the next Mario game or the next Zelda game might be the last. Nintendo will always make new games in a series or else they wouldn't be getting that much money and hype. That's the exact reason why they have stayed in the business for so long, because they have extremely strong IPs.
Lancorve Well if people do think that then that's pretty dumb on their part. Not to deflate on your argument though, because there are pretty dumb people out in the world.
"many people" No. A very few cry babies who think the world revolves around them. Honestly I've not seen many people at all complain. I've seen more people saying other people complaining than I have seen people playing.
Sorry but I did see MANY people complain about her inclusion, including myself before I calm myself down and admit that I was just hoping for another character. I understand you don't like people complaining for the wrong reasons but calling them "a few cry babies" isn't gonna make things better.
Eh I saw a few trolls in the live stream but every video about her has mostly likes and ive not seenmany complaining at all. Are they all bitching on reddit or something? Not see very much hate here on YT. Of course there are people with think less than 1 cent per day is an outrageous price for an online service so... Eh I don't pretend to keep up with the nit-picking people intentionally force themselves to be upset with. Honestly, and I know I'm over exaggerating here, but some times it REALLY feels like people just sit there and do mental gymnastics, forcing themselves to be mad at everything.
cry babys: ISABELLE IS JUST A SEMI CLONE AHHHH! me: we havent even seen her full moveset also she had a bunch of completly diffr- cry babys: SHES A WASTE OF A SLOT UGH WERE IS GENO WAHHHHH.
Thank you so much for this, made my day I don't particularly care all too much for Isabelle because my experiences with Animal Crossing were games that didn't include her, but i totally understand how much of a mascot for the franchise she is now, that adding her as playable seemed like the most logical option. Looking at the footage of her, she looks CONCEPTUALLY similar, but plays differently on the whole. As for the Geno Comment, yes... i'm sick and tired of seeing this character be requested... SMRPG isn't that good, frankly I think it's incredibly mediocre, and wouldn't really represent mario RPGs very well, nor would they even make a good moveset for him, at all... Taking a character from Paper Mario would hold more relevance, and could spark interest for a HD remaster of TTYD, which sorely NEEDS to happen due to the sheer rarity of that game and it being on the Gamecube which still totally lacks any official source of Emulation. Make him an assist, it's the best fitting spot, characters with some potential to do something but not enough to really be a full fighter on the Roster. Heck it's why Waluigi is still an Assist
Bottom line, just be appreciative thay Sakurai is giving us all these characters at all. The world doesn't revolve around you and it won't end if a character is not playable in a fighting game. Be glad the game exists at all.
@@MegaMaster1021 Back in an interview with Sakurai, he claimed he was a big fan of fire emblem series. However the only fire emblem characters in smash are lazy Marth clones. No lance or axe wielders in sight
Sakurai said not to expect many newcomers, and we've gotten 8 so far. (4 if you don't count Dark Samus, Chrom, Richter, or Isabelle). Whether they are clones or not, someone had to model and animate them, give them unique taunts and animations, so every character is a character in my book. Echos (or clones) are not inferior to Regular Characters, so stop being a stick in the mud and appreciate what Sakurai has given you already. And on the same note, if Sakurai thinks a character should be added, they WILL be added. This game will probably have DLC like Smash 4, so not all hope is lost if your character doesn't get in right away. (Geno, Bandanna Dee, etc.)
The only way Dark Samus could help sales of Metroid Prime 4, is if Nintendo actually said ANYTHING ABOUT Metroid Prime 4. :p It seems to have dropped completely off the radar.
People who are upset are people who expected a clone of Sonic to be announced. We wanted a clone not a new character! Waaah we're mad! No one is taking the place of anyone stop crying y'all, if anyone is even crying. Tbh i haven't seen a single person complain about Isabelle and it could just be people making drama out of nothing.
to be fair it would be absurdly easy to make a shadow echo and even could make his assist trophy skill his final smash. not really rallying for it, just adding my 2 cents.
I don't know *too* much about Mega Man, and I know less about Fire Emblem, but they couldn't be echoes. It's my understanding that, for Black Knight, he would have to be much bigger and heavier than Ike, what with the armor. Apparently there's also lore reasons for it to not make sense, but I haven't really bothered reading up on those because I'm pretty indifferent to FE. Now, for Protoman, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have the same power absorption that Mega Man has, so even a model swap a la Alph wouldn't make sense.
Just to be sure, you know that Dr Mario was introduced in Melee, right? From the way you talked you just made it sound like he came in Smash 4 with Lucina and Dark Pit but he's actually way older...
Isabelle is a well deserved inclusion. Animal Crossing is one of the longest and most popular franchises in Nintendo. I believe by the time the new animal crossing game comes out it will be 18 years since the first game. Definitely deserves more than one rep and Isabelle is a named character rather than the blank slate which is villager. Also another note, I really really really really hope that Incineroar is not the Pokémon rep. He is definitely not as popular as other Pokémon from gen such as Decidueye and Lycanroc, and his move set would not be that interesting. Fire punches, dark punches, and wrestling slams? Pretty boring if you ask me.
Not one of the longest AT ALL. Only 4 main games and 3 or 4 spinoffs over 17 years. All the series originating from the NES and SNES era are older, and often feature more entries.
KrossoverGod okay true but Animal Crossing is way more iconic to the general public than most NES and SNES games. I guarantee you more people know who Isabelle is today than people who know who Geno is. Animal Crossing is relevant to all demographics of gamers of all ages. So maybe 18 years isn’t long but it’s still one of Nintendo’s most memorable franchises after Mario, Kirby, Metroid, Zelda, and Star Fox. (Pokémon too but like I said there’s better Pokémon reps)
As for the Pokémon rep, personally I think single-Pokémon fighters don't represent the series very well. Pokémon is a series about collecting a lot of creatures, so having just one of them feels insignificant to me. That's why I think the best Pokémon rep are Pokémon Trainer and the Poké Ball itself. I think a new Pokémon character would have to be more special than just being one Pokémon. To me Eevee is the best candidate, since you can have very interesting dynamics with its evolutions, and also it's a very popular Pokémon, and with Let's Go Eevee coming out it'd fit perfectly.
If Luigi's full move set isn't revealed yet I hope for an attack based around the polter gust. Like Kirby's suck but it deals more damage or something.
I have to 100% agree with you on this! And I am so glad they gave Isabelle the Dr. Mario treatment and changed her up. I'm really looking forward to playing her when the game comes out.
While I’m hype to play as her and really wanted her in, I’m just confused, Daisy’s been in over 60 games (albeit spins-off games) and around for over 20 years, and still only gets the role of a clone, whereas Isabelle, being in hardly 10 or so games (idk I haven’t played much of AC) gets to be immediately a unique character 🤔🤔🤔 Plus I love Isabelle’s expressions, she’s so full of emotion in her animations and it’s adorable 😍.
Mode7 yes I most probably could, there’s loads of concept ideas all over the internet and like I said she’s been in over 60 games so there’s plenty of reference, and yes Waluigi is in the game, but as an assist trophy
I think Black Knight is a weird character where he has a little support, even hints at his inclusion but I dont think many are expecting. He could totally work as an echo of Ike due to certain story reasons, and some people are speculating this is why Chrom is an echo of Roy. Along with his model being changed or removed in the back of castle siege, and him appearing as a Mii costume. Personally I think the mii costime thing is inconsistent, but it does show that Sakurai recognizes people would buy them to play as a version of that character. Also, there is a hero vs villains theme here and Black Knight is a villain. As many fire emblem characters as there are, I personally would rather somebody else as an echo but you cant deny the support, and it wouldn't take all that much work.
She's much more unique than Dr Mario. The number of difference between Mario and Dr Mario is the same as the number of same moves between Villager and Isabelle. Isabelle/Villager are more like Lucario/Mewtwo, where they share one special so people think they're clones but they are not.
I liked the direct Gave us enough Not to little Nothing CRAZY HYPE Nothing super dull(to me at least) A nice new addition to smash Games to get released I honestly saw everyone get mad when Isabelle was shown as a fighter Honestly I like it Howstly I’m using honestly to much
I would like to know why people want Geno in the roster. He only appeared in one 1996 game (appart from a few cameos). Smash is a museum for video games and he doesn't belong here in my opinion. Granted, he would have an interesting moveset, but that's it. Other popular video game characters are more iconic and would have a better moveset (I'm looking at you Rayman).
This video helped me realize just how many iconic characters Nintendo truly has in their roster. Remember when Sony tried that Smash rip off game? They had to scrape the barrel to get a roster. Nintendo has so many they can include they can barely fit them all! Nice video! I agree that Isabelle is a great addition. I think it hilarious to think of such a nice, sweet character fighting in Smash.
If we were choosing characters based on mii costumes I personally want Monster Hunter to be added I mean they already Rathalos as a boss and assist trophy
Why? Wouldn't it be better to include an actual monster as a fighter instead of a bland character that in the original games is suposed to represent yourself? It works with the Pokémon Trainer because he/she has a predetermined look and doesn't fight by himself/herself and the Pokémon he/she uses are ones that people will have used al least one time when playing the games where they come from.
I think so, the mayor problem with Rathalos being playable is that he is huge and, unlike Ridley. It would look weird being the size of a person so they cannot scale it down and say it a day. I think that a boss/assist works better. But I think there are also smaller monsters who could work as playable like the Jaggi or even the Great Jaggi (although that one may need to be scaled down).
Ditidos Well, the Monster Hunter is who you play as, and has a ton of different armors and weapons to make a moveset with. The monsters in MH are basically obstacles or fodder, unlike Pokémon, and most of them are enormous. But if not the Hunter, the only other potential character I can see as a rep would be the Palico
I see that the same problem with the hunter. Too undetermined and general to the point of wondering which thing should be put into the character (not to mention the look of the face and such, although I admit this could be avoided with a full armor that covers everything). Smash rescale sizes anyway and some small monsters aren't that big to be a problem for them to be playable, of course your average monster is too big but something smaller could work. Mostly because, unlike the hunter, the monsters could have more unique moveset rather than generic fantasy warrior of some kind, a class that Smash already have a ton of (basically most of the FE characters, TLZ characters and even Pit) while a monster could have more unique moveset significantly diferent from other fighters. The monsters also come in diferent shapes which could lead to an also unique-looking fighter instead of the human/humanoid with weapons which in my opinion there are a lot of already in Smash (something that makes sense as most franchises don't focus in non-humanoid characters). The monsters also have a good diversity of attacks that could make for an unique moveset, this of course depend on the monster but it is a posibility. Now, I do see the mii outfit of the hunter from monster hunter coming back due to it making a lot of sense since you can customize the miis a lot more and, like the hunters, representing you (or any other person you want).
one thing that comes to mind right away when thinking about "what does this mean" is the fact that it opens the door to every big popular videogame character that IS NOT a fighter of some sort. now that we have such a non combatant character in a fighting game, AS A FIGHTER, it throws out the unstated rule about considering what new characters could join, "legitimate combatants only" characters that you can see ATTACKING another character. for example (AND TL BE CLEAR, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, IM NOT SAYING THEY WILL OR SHOULD BE ADDED) from the undertale series. people demanded frisk or sans, and i can see why, but the big argument against them was that sans only chose to fight when it came to the very end, when everyone else was dead. and was super lazy, only had one health, and all his moves cheated the game's own rules. and frisk, well we could say we got a genocidal frisk, but honestly the true story, he's a pacifist, he spares people, he finds other ways to surpass bosses without killing them. and he's in a game where killing even the most random of encounter "ennemies" is a horrible sin. even if it was in self defence. THE POINT im getting to was this game didnt realy fit for smash, maybe a trophe at best but not a character (though i would love undyne but sans and frisk are the ones everyone wants) but now that we have a character like isabella in smash, suddenly the door has been busted wide open. ANYONE COULD BE NEXT. and to be extra clear, undertale was JUST an example. there are loads of highly requested game characters that they could go with that we would previously not think of because they arnt fighters. well now look what we have. and now, even if we dont get ANY new characters. this door wont close for future games...
Everyone here is wanting Geno, Rex/Pyra, Etc. while I'm here waiting for Mike from Startropics to join. Wait... nobody knows who that is? I guess a man can dream then :(
great video!,i agree with it also,your reasoning behind some of the new characters been added,appearing in Smash 4 as costumes for the miis,only makes me think that we migth just get a Hunter from Capcom's Monster Hunter series,we got the Rathalos as an assyst throphy and a boss that appears on a stage that didnt got any details explained,but it was the ancestral Steppe from MH4,also,we got Monster hunter gear for the Miis in Smash 4,so my theory is that they kept the details from that stage for a future announcement along with "something else" related to MH in smash ultimate
First off, who do these people think they are saying she doesn't deserve to be in Smash? They're not freaken Sakurai. They have no say in whoever deserves to be in Smash or not. And secondly, she's a much more likely character to be in Smash than someone from a 3rd party game, who they probably think "deserves" to be in Smash.
So whoever he includes is fine for you? If they announce Doge is in the game you'd be okay with that? Anybody is entitled to say what character they think should be included and what is just a waste of space! Only Sakurai can choose, but we're allowed to say "I think he chose wrong."
If Isabelle is in the game to promote Animal Crosing for the switch then there must be some new sonic characters in ultimate because of Team Sonic Racing, right?
"Very rare for a character so new to get popular so fast" ... *Looks over at Rex* :> Pls can we get Rex and Pyra in Smash so Shulk isn't the solo face for Xenoblade? :3
I never played an animal crossing game in my life. Only had her unlocked for about 4 hours, she may become my main... just because of that, ima be getting Animal Crossing. Their tactics are working.
Tbh as much as I love Isabelle I really don’t feel like she should be beating people up in smash, idk it just seems out of character for someone that sweet. I mean, if you could add anyone from the Animal Crossing series in smash, which is both iconic and more more fitting, add Resetti, idk, it’s just weird to see Isabelle fight against the likes of Ridley or bowser
It's not about what the character's personality is like. It just has to do with their iconic status in gaming. Animal Crossing is HUGE and has one rep. Isabelle is the more popular character from the franchise so she's in. She's now high tier representation for one of the BIGGEST franchises for the Nintendo Company outside of a Mario game. AC on level of Pokemon or Splatoon in that sense. So ya. It makes sense she's in.
I’m not saying Goku should be in, idk where you even got that from. I’m just saying someone this sweet just seems weird, I get why they did but idk she doesn’t exactly scream fighting game character does she
I didn’t say that nor that was my point. I’m sayin people want goku even though he’s one of the most strongest characters to live, I think it’s more fair that Isabelle got a shot too. Also we have characters that don’t fight at all like Wii fit
To be fair, I was kinda seeing Tom Nook as a fighter too. A big part of Smash uniqueness is weirdness. I mean, what other fighting game allows you to play a match between a boxer, a spaceship pilot, a goddess, a pocket monster and a cute ball who inhales stuff.
I agree, Siiroth, I thought it was a bit strange at first, but then I realized that Isabelle (Shizue in Japan) is a very popular Animal Crossing, so of course, it makes sense that she would join the Smash roster, as well as to promote the next upcoming AC title for the Switch next year (most likely)! I do love Isabelle, and I can't wait to play as her! :D I'm glad I wasn't the only who noticed that a lot of the Ultimate newcomers also had costumes/headgear from Smash 4 such as the Inklings, Ridley, Daisy, Chrom, King K.Rool, and Isabelle! lol Of course, this could all be a coincidence, but, I still feel like more will show up like that! ;)
Protoman technically is included since he’s now part of Megaman’s final smash and similar treatment was given to Zero who was also a mii costume (now an assist trophy). Black Knight, Skull Kid, and Geno are all more than likely going to 🐝 included in Smash Ultimate in some shape or form anywhere between being featured in somebody’s final smash, being an assist trophy, or full on being playable like Isabelle and K Rool
PlayPod Peter wasn't even complaining that he isn't in smash and deconfirmed, he just said he wanted him in, and probably thought he would be cool. Sure, Waluigi isn't getting in ultimate, but you doing stuff like that makes you seem worse than Waluigi fans.
I mean the speculation about the Mii costumes basically comes down to this: The Mii costumes were for popular characters fans wanted otherwise they would not sell. They seem to be including popular characters fans wanted in this one. So I guess going off the Mii custumes when guessing new characters is a solid approach.
It's just boring cause everyone expected Isabelle and a lot of people wanted Isabelle and expected her to be an echo but because she got revealed in the direct as a unique character and no one else did everyone now hates her? Less echos the better
As much as I agree that we should make every character unique, we don't even know if she is an echo or a semiclone. So don't throw it under the bus just yet.
Assumtions of fighters opportunities : *Assist Trophies: - Skull Kid - Phosphora or Magnus (none of them has returned as assist trophies yet...) - Shadow (as Sonics echo fighter) * Mii Costumes: - Geno - Black Knight (as Ikes echo fighter, it has sense, and is an easy way to add a FE villain) - Tails (deserves a place in the roster more than Shadow, hard to believe the 2 of them will be added) - Monster Hunter - Lloyd - Heihachi * Other Newcomers: - King Boo - Incineroar (Because Super Mario and Pokémon are the 2 franchises that should have more reps) - Bandana Dee (I prefer Marx...) - Porky - Medusa - Elma - Karate Joe - Isaac - Banjo-Kazooie - Rayman * Other echo fighters: 11- Black Shadow 16- Impa 36- Dixie Kong 60- Ken 61- Noctis 63- Jeanne 68- Digby ?? - Felix * DLC ?: - Rex & Pyra/Mythra ... I can't believe this huge list of fighters will join the roster, but I think some will get in, and maybe some as DLC... I'm just calculating the possibilities of each one with this list. That's why I wrote it.
The one person who doesn't deserve to be in smash is banjo, because smash bros wouldn't be the same anymore if they keep adding more 3rd party characters, now yes we have cloud, sonic, Pac-man (etc.) But if banjo got in, it wouldn't be super smash bros, it would be random video game characters beating up each other. Super Smash Bros is a bunch of NINTENDO (and SOME 3rd party characters) characters fighting each other on a stage. Not having a bunch of Microsoft and Sony characters plus Nintendo characters being in a game. They can make that a separate game. I just hope they don't add banjo, he doesn't deserve to be in
I don't really care who or what character gets in but SANS FROM UNDERTALE CANT NOT BE IN ULTIMATE. I don't care what anyone says if he gets in, smash ultimate is no longer to be considered a smash brothers game. Fact.
I don't entirely understand why Banjo specifically doesn't deserve a spot. Unlike a lot of third parties, he actually debuted on a Nintendo console. I don't even really want or like the character much, but by that logic, Smash already isn't Smash anymore because of Cloud and Snake. As long as the amount of third parties is never more than the amount of Nintendo characters, I think we'll be fine.
So, characters like Cloud and Snake are totally okay. But Banjo, no. Banjo will ruin the entire series. The character that debuted on a Nintendo console. He would ruin Smash.
I’d honestly be cool with it if Black Knight ended up being added cause for one, we’d get a Fire Emblem villain, and we don’t have one yet, (Nintendo seems to really be into adding villains), and Ike V. Black Knight is like one of the biggest rivalry relationships through all of FE
I've also have been looking at the dlc costumes since King k. Rool's and Chrom's announcement. Lloyd is also one of them and he even got noted by sakurai in one of his interviews long ago. I'd be fine if he didn't come in, but be a dual wielder would be cool in smash. Even if it's another sword character.
_"Smash Bros is a great promotion tool...it's true!"_ Smash Bros. Melee came out in 2001. The first actually successful Fire Emblem game released in 2012. 🙄
He and you are mistaken. Isabelle was put in Smash Bros. to promote _drumroll_ Smash Bros. What is going to make you buy this game rather than a whole different game?
A part of what you said about the next Animal Crossing game selling hopefully well it kinda part of my theory: Confirming that Animal Crossing is coming to the Switch in 2019 is the reason why they revealed Isabelle as a playable Smash character.
I love your videos and I agree with a lot of what you have to say you know I would love Banjo and Kazooie to be parsed smash I mean even though they belong to another company and they made a lot of games with Nintendo.
I’d also just like to say, in the reveal trailer, when they talked about assist trophies, Isabella was one of them. But they got rid of the assist trophy for the character. Maybe, just maybe... this gives us a chance for waluigi? Probably not but possibly.
There is nothing wrong with my comment. There is one product that they are using the character to promote by putting her in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, and that's Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
@@backup368 Again, if she wasn't promoting AC2019 even a little bit they would not have timed it like this. The idea that she's only promoting SSBU is based on nothing.
I have something similar to this. As a huge fan of the Earthbound series my top fighter I want in the game is Ninten. Now he may not be one of the most popular choices, he may not have had a Mii costume in Smash like Inkling, K. Rool, Isabel, Chrom and maybe even Geno did, and he probably might as well be an echo fighter to Ness, but theres a huge importance with Ninten in Smash. Mother 3 still hasn't come to America. So with Ninten being in Smash could hint that Mother 3 is coming soon, though one might think Porky is a better option, that just isn't fitting at all
Aaron Wichers that was like me with king k and Ridley I’m really happy for people who wanted them but I couldn’t care less if they were in the game or not
@@cyrhasmarshall4603 the reason we wanted k rool and Ridley was because we saw a lot of potential for them we didn't want Isabelle is because we don't really see any potential seeing as villager was already in the game it would make more sense if she was an echo as a fun little thing for smash and helps promote the new ac game I just think they went a little bit overboard making her a character.
Everyone talks about how Isabelle should've been an echo of Villager because of the moveset similarities, but the way I see it, she was made her own fighter because she's taller. When you look at the other pairings with current echo fighters, Peach & Daisy, Pit & Dark Pit, Simon & Richter, both characters are usually the same height with each other, but Villager in Smash is based off of the original game where every character was fairly short, but then they made everyone a little bit taller from New Leaf and onward, which was also when Isabelle first debuted. Since she never had a concept model of her being shorter than she already is, I think I'd be weird to squash her down to size just to have her to scale with lil' Villager.
I think that the best way to explain villager and Isabelle would be falco's changes between melee and brawl where the base moves are there but are fundamentally different
To me, the significance of isabelles inclusion is that it makes it more and more likely that vergeben is right about ken from street fighter and a new square enix rep (probably geno, but I’m also keeping my fingers crossed for sora) being in the game as playable characters.
Even though I REALLY wanted Geno this time, I was still really excited and happy about Isabelle in Smash (AND SHE'S NOT AN ECHO OF VILLAGER) and Animal Crossing for Switch. It's a thumbs up from me.
Isabelle was missing from the assist trophy and now she got added like a character shadow and other characters are missing from the assist trophy does that mean shadow is a character
While we shouldn't expect as many newcomers in Ultimate (at least at launch) as before (given the effort they've already made bringing back every single veteran from the past 4 games), I predict at least 12 newcomers (both brand new fighters & echo fighters) for Ultimate... the same amount as the overall roster for the Original Super Smash Bros.
Kind of annoyed that Isabelle keeps getting lumped as an Echo Fighter of Villager. The only moves they actually share are the net grab and dash attack. Pretty much all the other attacks are unique animations that are not derived from Villager. Meanwhile, all Echo Fighters' attacks are directly derived from existing characters, hence their classification.
Net grab, dash, pocket, Final Smash. 4 moves. Still few enough for the treatment Lucario got (People say they're a clone because they share one move. In Lucario's case they say Mewtwo clone, in Isabelle's they say Villager) though.
Right, forgot about those. But for the Lucario situation, that was more around when Brawl first came out and Mewtwo got the cut, so people started drawing more parallels between those two, I think.
I see how it is, they will without hesitation add a secretary, they will add someone who debut on the game cube, but they won't add any character who debuted on the n64.
With K. Rool on the roster, I’m surprised more people are talking about Banjo & Kazooie. Like, Geno would be a huge reveal, but imagine the reaction video from Nintendo World NY at the reveal of B&K.
Isabelle shouldn't be fighting? What about the villager? They are both literally from the same friendly game. Both shouldn't be fighting but im extremely happy that they are. If Isabelle was included along with the villager in Super Smash 4, not a lot of people wouldn't react this way. They're just ungrateful about SSBU not adding the "right" characters that they wanted (such as shadow, skull kid ect... idfk nor care) and if they're giving the excuse that the trailer was boring or bad, they should realize that the trailer is to announce the up coming animal crossing game for next year as well. And it worked, the music & seeing Isabelle work gave some nostalgia to some Animal Crossing fans. I haven't seen any AC fans upset about this but not everyone thinks the same... But even so, they should be happy and accept that we're getting another representative of AC in the game and a very adorable one as well lol Great video btw
There’s one reason people are angry about Isabelle and one reason only. Because it’s not the character that they personally wanted. That’s how it’s always been with new characters
Maybe she wouldn't have got as much hate if the Direct wasn't so underwhelming for some people.
You're right in a way but some people are thinking differently.
InsertDecentName I know where you’re coming from but see how you’re saying she’s a waste of a character slot? The only way a wasted character slot is bad is if you’d prefer another character to be in that slot
That’s the point I’m making here. It’s not a problem with Isabelle herself
GEEKFOREVER Agree with you there. I’m generally saying that when you think about it, the only reason any of us are upset with characters is because we want other ones
😭😭😭😭😭😭I WANTED GOKUUUUU😭😭😭😭😭I'M GONNA BOYCOTT SUPER SMASH BROS😭😭😭I'M FOUR😭😭😭😭😭😭
@InsertDecentName "Random secretary bitch"? Isabelle is the face of one of Nintendo's most popular and successful franchises. She's the head of the Animal Crossing Twitter page, she was in Smash 4 as both an assist trophy and a mii fighter costume, she guest starred in MK8, she was the starter figure in Amiibo Festival, etc. She's an extremely relevant and promoted character and essentially a Nintendo icon at this point. Besides the Inkling, she was probably the most important Nintendo character not playable in Smash yet.
I'm not even hyped for her myself, but to say that she is a random or unimportant character is ridiculous. Not everything revolves around what you think or know.
past Sakurai: Animal crossing characters arent fit to be in a fight and dont have a good moveset
present Sakurai: Hold my beer
Dead Sakurai: Oh crap this is too much...
Deader-Deader Sakuri wha....hav....i done...
Past Sakurai: [Waluigi] "Try hard don't make you a chance to join in the battle"
Future Sakurai: ?
past Sakurai: Ridley can't be in smash because he's too big
present Sakurai: hold my beer
Furries rise up 😂😂😂😂
I think Isabelle is a tier above Dr Mario in uniqueness. She’s about as different from Villager as Wolf from fox or Lucas from Ness. Or even Luigi from Mario, though Luigi is probably a bit more distinct compared to Mario. Anywho, She has some standard attacks that are borrowed, some that are unique, and she has some specials that are obviously derivative but also function quite differently. Whereas, Doc has most of the same moves with the exception of just one standard, one special, and different movement and hit box properties.
Did you know that you cannot quantify the word unique or different. Weird right? But you can quantify persay the number of differences? What? Mind blown.
@BallBoy Exactly.
@BallBoy Yeah. You cannot quantify uniqueness because there is no such thing by that definition. Something is either unique or it isnt. It can't be more of the only one of it's kind, and the same goes with the word different. It cant be less not the same. But you can highlight multiple differences to create a sum. But that sum will always be the same - unique or different and not more and not less
Adam Ebony: ... Did the point of this comment just go over my head or something? =P
@BallBoy Of course, most of that is true, but you cant say that something is more unique than something else or less different than something else. It can only be properly said as: it is unique or it is different
Of course these differences and similarities can be built up to something that has more things the same than different or vice versa but you cant state it as if it is less unique or less different than something else. That's improper use of these terms
Reasons why Isabelle deserves her spot in Smash Ultimate:
-AC is one of Nintendo's most popular and best selling series today and despite that it only had one representative in Smash.
-She is an extremely popular character among AC fans.
-Even though she has appeared in just one main game of the series (New Leaf), she plays a major role in that game.
-She has become the poster girl of the AC series.
-More female fighters are always welcomed.
-She likely performed very well in the Smash Ballot.
isabellelover109 Lewd. She’s really. REALLY cute but not sexy unless you are a furry/an animal/dog
You forgot that isabelle is best doggo waifu
Isabelle has been in all the AC games New Leaf onwards in varying capacities, actually.
+NotABot55 True too. It comes to show how popular Isabelle has become.
A lot of people don't play animal crossing though, I mean I've known about the game for the few years it's been a thing and I still don't know where Isabelle came from. It's just not an exciting series that's partially the reason why people are upset now, that Nintendo is wasting their time with Animal Crossing while they can be utilizing as many people to try and make Smash the best it can considering this smash may be the last.
I honestly think this is more about bringing more Animal Crossing fans into Smash Bros.
Twilord I'm not sure how much I want Animal Crossing fans inside me...
...nor any fans for that matter.
Computers like having fans inside them, you should too.
Its more about promoting the new AC game
Cause every Nintendo games fans need to be happy together... am I right? :)
Satria *_HAPPY TOGETTHHERRR!!!_*
Villager is a crazed psychotic serial murderer
Isabelle is a doggo who wants to help
Friendly Furbait 👌
Isabelle is tired of Villager's shit and is on a mission to hunt him down and drag him back by force if necessary.
d o g g o g o o d
helping villager to kill everybody
I can go darker, Villager has slowly been torturing the other animals with slingshots, nets, pitfalls, slowly driving them under his foot. Isabelle caught on and confronts him, unfortunately she hadn't realized how unhinged he really was and he punished her with unspeakable means. Trying to hold on to her sanity, Isabelle slowly developed an ignorant bliss in the form of Stockholm syndrome and served him.
when villager left for smash Isabelle slowly recovered and aided the other animals in their recoveries as well. only to have an order show up in the mail forcing her to join villager in smash. Now she puts aside the safety she has in order to end the abomination that has plagued her.
(also tom nook is Hitler, have fun!)
I hate when people say " No one asked for this character." When in all reality there probably just as if not MORE wanted then a character you want in smash.
She was definitely requested by many but not as much as other characters, which some would (in a certain way) make more sense. (Skull Kid, Geno, Ken, Shadow, ...)
That's also to be considered.
@@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 While your not wrong, it still gives no one the right to say that any of them are a waste of space. Mind you, I dont play animal crossing. But I'm stillglad she got in as she's been highly requested.
@@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 japanese popularity is more important than western.
@@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 Also what makes characters like Geno and skullkid more reasonsible?
Okay, Geno is not as present in video games but he's highly requested and Sakurai himself wants him in and Skull Kid is also requested and is an iconic villain of an iconic games.
People are far fetching what echo fighters are.
As someone who knows how games are made and how 3D assets work, I can tell you the definition of echo fighter is obvious to me, and actually quite simple.
An echo fighter is a character that reuse most of another one animations, saving the development team a lot of animation work. That's it.
_And animations are a lot of work in Smash, echo fighters can probably be done in half the time, compared to regular fighters._
Dark Pit, Lucina, Daisy, Richter, Chrom, and Dark Samus use like 99% of the animations of their respective original characters (I mean, the animation data, from the same files, or copies).
Meanwhile, Dr Mario, Isabelle, and all the clones or semi-clones all have their own animations (with different data, even if they're only slightly different, they're still whole new data).
An exemple : Link, Young Link, and Toon Link spin attacks may look the same, but they don't use the exact same bones rotations, therefore the artists have to make each one separatly.
isabelle is not a semi clone tho
Eric Meldonian I also have a theory why Dr. Mario is not a echo. First of all Dr. Mario is just Mario, he’s like a costume swap, like Samus and Zelda before, yet they are in fact the same person, it’s just Mario in a costume. You can argue that with Dark Samus and Pit, but unlike Dr. Mario they are literally clones, while Dr. Mario is still Mario, like Samus and Zelda.
So in conclusion an echo fighter has to be entirely different from the character they’re based, they have minor changes. Dr. Mario is still different from regular Mario unlike Dark Pit. Isabelle is way too different for Villager so I’m glad they didn’t echoed her.
PS. Also a theory; the reason why Chrom is an echo, is because we have too many FE char. No hate, if I was Sakurai adding another swordsman while trying to differentiate moves form one another is rather tiring, so it’s a safe bet they made Chrom an echo of Roy
Eric Meldonian chrom is a mixture of different fire emblem characters, and dark Samus floats. But yeah, I get your point
That's why I said _most of the animations_ and not -all the animations.-
They're still gonna rework some of them if they feel they should, but reworking a few animations amongst hundreds is no big deal.
They gave Dark Samus the floating idle/walk/run to make her more faithful to the character, but you can see she goes back to Samus anim as soon as she does anything else.
And for Chrom, honnestly, I think they cheated here : I think Marth, Roy, and Ike have the same skeleton to begin with, so Chrom can borrow animations from any of them.
Also Sakurai stated that each echo will have its own taunts.
Doesn't Chrom use ONE move from Ike and everything else from Roy?
*_Imagine Ridley's final smash on Isabelle._*
Pixel (¯´•._.• Ⓗⓞⓛⓓ ⓜⓨ ⓑⓔⓔⓡ •._.•´¯)
Yes good
Imagine Bayonettas
Noooo!!!!
Imagine clouds final smash on Isabelle, I WOULD ENJOY THAT 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
Don't know why some people here think Smash ISN'T good for the attention and marketing of their characters. Before Melee and Brawl, I had no idea who Captain Falcon was... or Ice Climbers, Pit, Ness, Lucas, Marth, Roy, Olimar, etc. Hell, I didn't really even know who Snake was. Sure, I may have seen some of these characters or a bit of their games. But never have I played the games, nor gotten to know the characters.
From that point, I've fallen in love with Fire Emblem and Metal Gear. And I know that pretty much all these characters have wonderful games. (And if Nintendo needs more villains I personally vote for Black Shadow because F-zero needs more love) New people are going to see characters, like Isabelle, and if they love Smash just as I do, they're going to be curious about who these fighters are. Thus, more attention are brought to these games.
In short, Nintendo knows how to wring money of out people.
Heck yeah. They should really do another F-Zero character. I want Jody Summer!
"pretty much all these characters have wonderful games" yeah idk about ice climbers
@@Chzrm3 i want James McCloud
@Hystercia You would know about Smash being good for marketing, wouldn't ya Nook, lolz
I'm pretty much the same. I hadn't heard of a majority of the roster before playing Smash 4.
Isabelle looks fun, her attacks look indirect and she’s just here to have fun, which really fits her personality and is something new for SSB. Complaining about it doesn’t really help anything but bring more toxicity to the Smash Community, which is already a problem.
Exactly. Like they need to learn how to just enjoy the game like honestly.
anything where there's competition will eventually breed toxicity on the internet.
anything where there's opinions will eventually breed toxicity on the internet.
anything where there's internet will eventually breed toxicity on the internet.
i almost deleted this pessimistic post without submitting it because i don't like to be a downer but the absurdity of it made me laugh a bit so i'm posting it anyway
@@sariarosegold Made me chuckle
trekman1701 you’re right but this is supposed to be a community of people enjoying Smash Brothers for letting us fight as characters we’ve appreciated throughout Nintendo’s history, not a group of people suddenly wanting Nintendo to cater to their every need.
@@gIockjuice so... I'm not allowed to have an opinion? I don't think that's how that works :/
Reamber the days when sakurai said he didn't think animal crossin would fit in smash first we got villager then dog waifu
GrimZANs̶ beastiality eww 😷
@@Jking08 at least she legal
Lmao this is...the weirdest convo i've seen in the comments of a Smash Ultimate video
Krystal might not have got in but at least Isababe did!
Its EXACTLY because Isabelle became Sakurai's dog waifu.
She became everyones' dog waifu.
We got Ridley, K Rool, OoT Ganondorf, Cloud, and Snake all in one Smash Bros game, and people are complaining. Can you people not be grateful for all the hard work Sakurai is putting into the game? Isabelle is a popular character from a popular series. Your character still has a chance. Rather than being upset, be happy for everyone who wanted her in the game.
(As for me, Isabelle is gonna be my new main)
As someone (and probably the only one) who wants Feraligatr in, I can only hope... but Isabelle's probably gonna end up being my main as well.
People wanted OOT Ganondorf?
All i knew is that people wanted him to use his sword.
well oot ganondorf was the only one sakurai had ever shown with a sword [the melee challenger picture]
BlackStarXD20 Brawl/Sm4sh Ganondorf literally takes out his sword for one of his taunts (but never uses it).
Notice you named a bunch of cool characters then proceeded to ask why people are resistant to Isabelle.
I'd say that it's more like the Luigi treatment. Isabelle has a few wholly unique moves and completely different characteristics. Luigi is like Mario but has a few wholly unique moves and completely different characteristics; you see my point?
Luigi only bad the same natural and up special. And they work differently. So he is too different xD
Obby wtf luigi has completely different moves and characteristics
Luigi is a diffrent character
Exactly, so like Isabelle
THATS WHAT HE IS SAYING
Before Isabelle: WE NEED ISABELLE RIGHT NOW WE WILL TAKE HER AS ECHO BUT NEWCOMER WILL BE EPIC}{After Isaballe: What the hell Nintendo she doesn't deserve to be in smash
people don't understand that when that happens you are just hearing the loud people. both of those statements are made from different people. one half of the people complained that she is not in it so the other half stayed quiet. but now since she is in it that quiet half is vocal. thats how this works. i don't know why people are always surprised at this happening
PapasDragon 2 different groups of people, with the spotlight being shifted to stir controversy.
That was was the most wholesome trailer I've ever seen.
A nice change of pace from the murder fests so far. O.o
No man, that trailer was boring as sin. I'd rather have newcomers being introduced alongside other Nintendo icons than just them getting a fucking letter.
Agreed.
Tom Nook died from the inside
I think Isabelle will be fun.
What are your thoughts on seeing Birdo, Petey Piranha, Shy Guy, and Paratroopa being added to Mario Tennis Aces alongside the Ring Shot mode and New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe?
I think they'd all be good additions to the roster, I believe all except Petey were confirmed. The new mode looks like it could be fun and the only interesting part of NSMBU is that peachette thing lol
Siiroth Nope peachette is horrible, they should put daisy over yellow toad.
NSMBUD was a very large disappointment.
That is untill you consider the lore peachett brings:
Ask yourself this, why does peach rule over a bunch of mushrooms (don't ask matpat)
the answer: because she used TO BE ONE
evidence: nintendo stated many years ago that a "female toad" is just a variation of toad and that toads have no genders. Now we see that the "female" variation can become "human" (or whatever mario's race is called now) after attaining a ROYAL mushroom.
these "toadetts" can be promoted to a ruling variation that the other toads follow and gain a weird ability to float (both peach and peachett do this)
now why peach and peachett look different, probably a further form of of metamorphosis, also they seem to carry their own form of hairstyle with them through the process
One issue, There is information that suggests peach is Rosalina's mother and either mario or luigi is her father, this wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for the fact that we have seen Rosalina as a child with no sign of a mushroom hat.
to counter, Nintendo also stated that that was the original intention (Rosalina's relation) but was scrapped, therefore proving the theory false (it also involves convoluted time shenanagens to happen which is a bit complicated for writers of a non-rpg mario title)
this leaves Rosalina simply having a mother with a similar hairstyle to peach, and a new cannon more focused on explaining toads rather than fulfilling fanfics.
(also rosalina COULD be Peach's daughter, and because the lucky Mario bro is a "human" or whatever, the hybrid shares strictly human properties, which is the sort of macabre stuff Nintendo would normally do)
Isabelle is the new META, she is so cute that you would never be able to hurt her
The REAL Significance of Mario's Inclusion - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Wait..
I don't get it.
@@francesco8572 Mario's the first smash character
Snas undertale for smashers utllamate
@@NyanAnomaly are you serious orrrrrrr?
@@lancorve2809 what do _you_ think?
She shares 4 moves with villager so it’s kinda hard to even call that a semi clone
But her moves are so distinct compared to Villager, and that’s what makes her a semi clone like Wolf or Lucas.
Ac S wolf has entirely new moves and the ONLY move he shares with fox is the blaster he's not even a semi clone anymore
DOES SHE RIDE A GYROID?DOES SHE HAVE A BOWLING BALL?DOES SHE HAVE A SHOVE?DOES SH HAVE FIREWORKS? No.She only has the pocket(seems legit),the up B(that might be different) the dash that seems it doesn't go as far.SHE is more unique compared to young link to the old Twilight Princess Link,Dr mario to Mario and Luigi,Pichu to Pikachu and Ganon to Cptain falcon.She deserves to be called a CLONE and not Semi clone...
The only move she shares is the pot, pocket, and the balloons? Thats 3...
Lucas shares 3 of Ness specials....is he not a semi clone now?, Falco and Wolf share half of Foxes moves are the not either? Toon Link shares ALL of Links moves..but he's not an echo...so where is your argument going?
This thinking of "This character shouldn't be in Smash because my character should be in that slot" is pretty stupid and egoistical. I want with all my heart for Masked Man or at least Ninten as an echo to be in smash but i don't get mad for another character to get in even when they are from a series that i usually don't play because i know that there's people who loves them as much as a love my games and my characters, so i feel happy about them too. But in Isabelle's case it's just pretty much ignorance of these people, Animal Crossing is one of Nintendo's main series and apart from the game coming next year Isabelle has been the face of the series since her debut in New leaf, she totally deserves to be her own character and represent her series and fans. it's a big role that she fills with eficiency.
I think the reason is because this is such a huge game they're worried it might be the last.
If it sells well i don't that's a problem to worry about,but Sakurai did say that bring all this ncharacters from another companies can be quite dificult in next instailments.Still that's not a excuse for such behavior.
Lancorve You saying that it might be the last is like saying that the next Mario game or the next Zelda game might be the last. Nintendo will always make new games in a series or else they wouldn't be getting that much money and hype. That's the exact reason why they have stayed in the business for so long, because they have extremely strong IPs.
@@benlink202forever *I* don't think it'll be the last I'm saying that some people think it is
Lancorve Well if people do think that then that's pretty dumb on their part. Not to deflate on your argument though, because there are pretty dumb people out in the world.
"many people" No. A very few cry babies who think the world revolves around them. Honestly I've not seen many people at all complain. I've seen more people saying other people complaining than I have seen people playing.
Sorry but I did see MANY people complain about her inclusion, including myself before I calm myself down and admit that I was just hoping for another character. I understand you don't like people complaining for the wrong reasons but calling them "a few cry babies" isn't gonna make things better.
Eh I saw a few trolls in the live stream but every video about her has mostly likes and ive not seenmany complaining at all. Are they all bitching on reddit or something? Not see very much hate here on YT.
Of course there are people with think less than 1 cent per day is an outrageous price for an online service so... Eh I don't pretend to keep up with the nit-picking people intentionally force themselves to be upset with.
Honestly, and I know I'm over exaggerating here, but some times it REALLY feels like people just sit there and do mental gymnastics, forcing themselves to be mad at everything.
look on instagram people are hella salty over there
You insulted matpat haters
Ray j That's not a surprise at all -_-
cry babys: ISABELLE IS JUST A SEMI CLONE AHHHH!
me: we havent even seen her full moveset also she had a bunch of completly diffr-
cry babys: SHES A WASTE OF A SLOT UGH WERE IS GENO WAHHHHH.
@Fortnite is CANCER that's the point
Thank you so much for this, made my day
I don't particularly care all too much for Isabelle because my experiences with Animal Crossing were games that didn't include her, but i totally understand how much of a mascot for the franchise she is now, that adding her as playable seemed like the most logical option. Looking at the footage of her, she looks CONCEPTUALLY similar, but plays differently on the whole.
As for the Geno Comment, yes... i'm sick and tired of seeing this character be requested... SMRPG isn't that good, frankly I think it's incredibly mediocre, and wouldn't really represent mario RPGs very well, nor would they even make a good moveset for him, at all... Taking a character from Paper Mario would hold more relevance, and could spark interest for a HD remaster of TTYD, which sorely NEEDS to happen due to the sheer rarity of that game and it being on the Gamecube which still totally lacks any official source of Emulation. Make him an assist, it's the best fitting spot, characters with some potential to do something but not enough to really be a full fighter on the Roster. Heck it's why Waluigi is still an Assist
@Fortnite is CANCER idk i seen a bit of it, but i guess its just me. but yeah i see what ya mean
@@vividBloodsuckerthank you, you took the words right outta my mouth
@Fortnite is CANCER k
Bottom line, just be appreciative thay Sakurai is giving us all these characters at all. The world doesn't revolve around you and it won't end if a character is not playable in a fighting game. Be glad the game exists at all.
Literally no one thinks that the world revolves around them and are grateful for Smash.
Your comment is stupid
@@andrewvillatoro4605 Thanks for your feedback, you're right, this comment is stupid, I hate my past self already
@@aramnolastname1301 That's good
I should rethink my life goals and drop out of school, I don't deserve to have a successful future. Everything I once knew is a lie
@@aramnolastname1301 Exactly
"The black knight from Fire Emblem obviously wouldn't make too much sense"
Try explaining it anyway.
He would be the perfect echoe for Ike
I'm interested in this answer too. Protoman makes sense since he's in Megaman's final smash but Black Knight is no where else.
Sakurai doesn't really care about FE despite his claims of him being a longtime fan of the series
Tom de Kler as much as I love fire emblem getting black knight as an echo for Ike would be WAY to much fe we just got chrom
@@MegaMaster1021 Back in an interview with Sakurai, he claimed he was a big fan of fire emblem series.
However the only fire emblem characters in smash are lazy Marth clones. No lance or axe wielders in sight
Sakurai said not to expect many newcomers, and we've gotten 8 so far. (4 if you don't count Dark Samus, Chrom, Richter, or Isabelle). Whether they are clones or not, someone had to model and animate them, give them unique taunts and animations, so every character is a character in my book. Echos (or clones) are not inferior to Regular Characters, so stop being a stick in the mud and appreciate what Sakurai has given you already.
And on the same note, if Sakurai thinks a character should be added, they WILL be added. This game will probably have DLC like Smash 4, so not all hope is lost if your character doesn't get in right away. (Geno, Bandanna Dee, etc.)
You have to count Isabelle as a one of the 5 new fighter. She got her own animated trailer plus it wasn't a splash image of Isabelle joins the battle.
@@Pigsebas1 It did have the same subpar font as the echoes though, just slightly modified, or at least so it seemed to me
Pepsi Man for smash.
The video starts at 6:16. You're welcome.
E.Gadd and King Boo at least deserve to be in Mario Kart 8.
Thx
The only way Dark Samus could help sales of Metroid Prime 4, is if Nintendo actually said ANYTHING ABOUT Metroid Prime 4. :p
It seems to have dropped completely off the radar.
Not to mention they have already indicated that it's not about Phazon, meaning no Dark Samus. :/
People who are upset are people who expected a clone of Sonic to be announced. We wanted a clone not a new character! Waaah we're mad!
No one is taking the place of anyone stop crying y'all, if anyone is even crying. Tbh i haven't seen a single person complain about Isabelle and it could just be people making drama out of nothing.
ToasterVJoe nah, I’m just mad because we didn’t get my specific character from an admittedly niche game.
Have these people actually played against Sonic? Because ugh I am not looking forward to having more of that.
to be fair it would be absurdly easy to make a shadow echo and even could make his assist trophy skill his final smash. not really rallying for it, just adding my 2 cents.
@@sariarosegold So would that be a clone of Bayo's final Smash?
More like peach but they don't fall asleep and it can actually kill.
>Black Knight and protoman wouldn't make sense
>Lists Skull Kid
Uhh. Echoes for Ike and Mega Man?
I don't know *too* much about Mega Man, and I know less about Fire Emblem, but they couldn't be echoes. It's my understanding that, for Black Knight, he would have to be much bigger and heavier than Ike, what with the armor. Apparently there's also lore reasons for it to not make sense, but I haven't really bothered reading up on those because I'm pretty indifferent to FE. Now, for Protoman, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have the same power absorption that Mega Man has, so even a model swap a la Alph wouldn't make sense.
Just to be sure, you know that Dr Mario was introduced in Melee, right? From the way you talked you just made it sound like he came in Smash 4 with Lucina and Dark Pit but he's actually way older...
Isabelle is a well deserved inclusion. Animal Crossing is one of the longest and most popular franchises in Nintendo. I believe by the time the new animal crossing game comes out it will be 18 years since the first game. Definitely deserves more than one rep and Isabelle is a named character rather than the blank slate which is villager.
Also another note, I really really really really hope that Incineroar is not the Pokémon rep. He is definitely not as popular as other Pokémon from gen such as Decidueye and Lycanroc, and his move set would not be that interesting. Fire punches, dark punches, and wrestling slams? Pretty boring if you ask me.
Not one of the longest AT ALL. Only 4 main games and 3 or 4 spinoffs over 17 years. All the series originating from the NES and SNES era are older, and often feature more entries.
KrossoverGod okay true but Animal Crossing is way more iconic to the general public than most NES and SNES games. I guarantee you more people know who Isabelle is today than people who know who Geno is. Animal Crossing is relevant to all demographics of gamers of all ages. So maybe 18 years isn’t long but it’s still one of Nintendo’s most memorable franchises after Mario, Kirby, Metroid, Zelda, and Star Fox. (Pokémon too but like I said there’s better Pokémon reps)
No it's okay! I actually like Isabelle and I agree with you. I was just saying. I don't thing "long running" is the right adjective for the AC series.
As for the Pokémon rep, personally I think single-Pokémon fighters don't represent the series very well. Pokémon is a series about collecting a lot of creatures, so having just one of them feels insignificant to me. That's why I think the best Pokémon rep are Pokémon Trainer and the Poké Ball itself. I think a new Pokémon character would have to be more special than just being one Pokémon. To me Eevee is the best candidate, since you can have very interesting dynamics with its evolutions, and also it's a very popular Pokémon, and with Let's Go Eevee coming out it'd fit perfectly.
KrossoverGod I think Alolan Pokémon trainer would be a good choice!
4:34 I just notice something did anyone noitce how ike is in some type of cinematic pose like it's from the story im surprised people over looked this
Lord Zamasu that's his neutral air lol
Watch to promote Luigi’s mansion they will bring in E Gadd or Boo/King boo
PRETTY UNLIKELY,but as for a KING BOO BOSS IN SPIRITS,and a E.Gadd codec/Palutena guidance it would be sick.
Dont play with my heart like this, seeing LM King Boo in smash in any capacity would have me THRILLED
If Luigi's full move set isn't revealed yet I hope for an attack based around the polter gust. Like Kirby's suck but it deals more damage or something.
I have to 100% agree with you on this! And I am so glad they gave Isabelle the Dr. Mario treatment and changed her up. I'm really looking forward to playing her when the game comes out.
ZachSharkAttack I read this in Peridot’s voice XD
isabelle is NOT a semi clone
You know, except for the fact that she is
While I’m hype to play as her and really wanted her in, I’m just confused, Daisy’s been in over 60 games (albeit spins-off games) and around for over 20 years, and still only gets the role of a clone, whereas Isabelle, being in hardly 10 or so games (idk I haven’t played much of AC) gets to be immediately a unique character 🤔🤔🤔
Plus I love Isabelle’s expressions, she’s so full of emotion in her animations and it’s adorable 😍.
Louis Markham Err Animal Crossing New Leaf , Smash Wii u/3ds, Amiibo festival, Pocket camp, Happy home designer, MK8, MK8 DX, Smash Bros ultimate. That’s 9 games
Can you come up with a unique moveset for Daisy? At least she's in the game. Meanwhile Waluigi isn't.
Sheldwardo34 Allah Akbar .... yes I said I haven’t played AC so I didn’t know the exact amount... did u even fucking read my comment...
Mode7 yes I most probably could, there’s loads of concept ideas all over the internet and like I said she’s been in over 60 games so there’s plenty of reference, and yes Waluigi is in the game, but as an assist trophy
@@radicaldude8988 You know what I meant when I said Waluigi isn't in the game. Don't remind me of his fate.
I think Black Knight is a weird character where he has a little support, even hints at his inclusion but I dont think many are expecting. He could totally work as an echo of Ike due to certain story reasons, and some people are speculating this is why Chrom is an echo of Roy. Along with his model being changed or removed in the back of castle siege, and him appearing as a Mii costume. Personally I think the mii costime thing is inconsistent, but it does show that Sakurai recognizes people would buy them to play as a version of that character. Also, there is a hero vs villains theme here and Black Knight is a villain. As many fire emblem characters as there are, I personally would rather somebody else as an echo but you cant deny the support, and it wouldn't take all that much work.
I would say add Alm and/or Celica to the base roster and then have a Three Houses rep as DLC.
No one died tho
Pixellego 47 Villager died from an explosion
epicstrawberrymastah lol
Have you played Animal Crossing?
Pixellego 47 Yeah, it sucks right? Way to break a streak, Nintendo!
Pete got sniped right after he left
Tom Nook is pissed af, lol.
He died on the inside.
@@leaffen9616 he will tax anyone who plays her
“There will be a new animal crossing game in 2019” March 20th, 2020: “do I look like a joke to you”
She's much more unique than Dr Mario. The number of difference between Mario and Dr Mario is the same as the number of same moves between Villager and Isabelle. Isabelle/Villager are more like Lucario/Mewtwo, where they share one special so people think they're clones but they are not.
Are there people that think Lucario and Mewtwo are clones? Yikes.
I liked the direct
Gave us enough
Not to little
Nothing CRAZY HYPE
Nothing super dull(to me at least)
A nice new addition to smash
Games to get released
I honestly saw everyone get mad when Isabelle was shown as a fighter
Honestly I like it
Howstly I’m using honestly to much
My top picks:
5 Skull Kid
4 Captain Toad (probably Won't happen)
3 Sceptile
2 Mipha/Urbosa/Revali/Daruk (again, probably won't happen)
1 GENO GENO GENO GENO
I would like to know why people want Geno in the roster. He only appeared in one 1996 game (appart from a few cameos).
Smash is a museum for video games and he doesn't belong here in my opinion.
Granted, he would have an interesting moveset, but that's it. Other popular video game characters are more iconic and would have a better moveset (I'm looking at you Rayman).
I think people are seriously sleeping on Sceptile, he was the most popular Pokemon in the Smash Ballot.
I understand the rest but why Geno? Why is everyone on a bandwagon for him despite him being in one game?
@@brysont323 I would also like to know.
peacorptv people that don't know anything about pokemon and see sceptile high on the ballot are assuming that he/she's a gen 7 pokemon lol
This video helped me realize just how many iconic characters Nintendo truly has in their roster. Remember when Sony tried that Smash rip off game? They had to scrape the barrel to get a roster. Nintendo has so many they can include they can barely fit them all! Nice video! I agree that Isabelle is a great addition. I think it hilarious to think of such a nice, sweet character fighting in Smash.
If we were choosing characters based on mii costumes I personally want Monster Hunter to be added I mean they already Rathalos as a boss and assist trophy
Why? Wouldn't it be better to include an actual monster as a fighter instead of a bland character that in the original games is suposed to represent yourself? It works with the Pokémon Trainer because he/she has a predetermined look and doesn't fight by himself/herself and the Pokémon he/she uses are ones that people will have used al least one time when playing the games where they come from.
Just out of curiosity, is Rathalos kinda like the Pikachu or Eevee of Monster hunter as the "recognizable brand character / monster" of the MH Series?
I think so, the mayor problem with Rathalos being playable is that he is huge and, unlike Ridley. It would look weird being the size of a person so they cannot scale it down and say it a day. I think that a boss/assist works better. But I think there are also smaller monsters who could work as playable like the Jaggi or even the Great Jaggi (although that one may need to be scaled down).
Ditidos Well, the Monster Hunter is who you play as, and has a ton of different armors and weapons to make a moveset with. The monsters in MH are basically obstacles or fodder, unlike Pokémon, and most of them are enormous. But if not the Hunter, the only other potential character I can see as a rep would be the Palico
I see that the same problem with the hunter. Too undetermined and general to the point of wondering which thing should be put into the character (not to mention the look of the face and such, although I admit this could be avoided with a full armor that covers everything). Smash rescale sizes anyway and some small monsters aren't that big to be a problem for them to be playable, of course your average monster is too big but something smaller could work. Mostly because, unlike the hunter, the monsters could have more unique moveset rather than generic fantasy warrior of some kind, a class that Smash already have a ton of (basically most of the FE characters, TLZ characters and even Pit) while a monster could have more unique moveset significantly diferent from other fighters. The monsters also come in diferent shapes which could lead to an also unique-looking fighter instead of the human/humanoid with weapons which in my opinion there are a lot of already in Smash (something that makes sense as most franchises don't focus in non-humanoid characters). The monsters also have a good diversity of attacks that could make for an unique moveset, this of course depend on the monster but it is a posibility. Now, I do see the mii outfit of the hunter from monster hunter coming back due to it making a lot of sense since you can customize the miis a lot more and, like the hunters, representing you (or any other person you want).
one thing that comes to mind right away when thinking about "what does this mean" is the fact that it opens the door to every big popular videogame character that IS NOT a fighter of some sort. now that we have such a non combatant character in a fighting game, AS A FIGHTER, it throws out the unstated rule about considering what new characters could join, "legitimate combatants only" characters that you can see ATTACKING another character.
for example (AND TL BE CLEAR, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, IM NOT SAYING THEY WILL OR SHOULD BE ADDED) from the undertale series. people demanded frisk or sans, and i can see why, but the big argument against them was that sans only chose to fight when it came to the very end, when everyone else was dead. and was super lazy, only had one health, and all his moves cheated the game's own rules. and frisk, well we could say we got a genocidal frisk, but honestly the true story, he's a pacifist, he spares people, he finds other ways to surpass bosses without killing them. and he's in a game where killing even the most random of encounter "ennemies" is a horrible sin. even if it was in self defence. THE POINT im getting to was this game didnt realy fit for smash, maybe a trophe at best but not a character (though i would love undyne but sans and frisk are the ones everyone wants)
but now that we have a character like isabella in smash, suddenly the door has been busted wide open. ANYONE COULD BE NEXT.
and to be extra clear, undertale was JUST an example. there are loads of highly requested game characters that they could go with that we would previously not think of because they arnt fighters. well now look what we have. and now, even if we dont get ANY new characters. this door wont close for future games...
Everyone here is wanting Geno, Rex/Pyra, Etc. while I'm here waiting for Mike from Startropics to join.
Wait... nobody knows who that is? I guess a man can dream then :(
Add him!
given his moveset he could be an echo of ness, albeit with an entirely different character model
trekman1701 maybe? I think making it an echo would be ruining his potential though.
great video!,i agree with it
also,your reasoning behind some of the new characters been added,appearing in Smash 4 as costumes for the miis,only makes me think that we migth just get a Hunter from Capcom's Monster Hunter series,we got the Rathalos as an assyst throphy and a boss that appears on a stage that didnt got any details explained,but it was the ancestral Steppe from MH4,also,we got Monster hunter gear for the Miis in Smash 4,so my theory is that they kept the details from that stage for a future announcement along with "something else" related to MH in smash ultimate
But tom nook was the one who was confirmed
Yare Yare Daze funny enough, people also confirmed Isabelle so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's not like that has merit or anything.
First off, who do these people think they are saying she doesn't deserve to be in Smash? They're not freaken Sakurai. They have no say in whoever deserves to be in Smash or not.
And secondly, she's a much more likely character to be in Smash than someone from a 3rd party game, who they probably think "deserves" to be in Smash.
So whoever he includes is fine for you? If they announce Doge is in the game you'd be okay with that? Anybody is entitled to say what character they think should be included and what is just a waste of space! Only Sakurai can choose, but we're allowed to say "I think he chose wrong."
I'm not sad that she's in the game. I'm just more hyped about new Animal Crossing than Smash Bros now.
If Isabelle is in the game to promote Animal Crosing for the switch then there must be some new sonic characters in ultimate because of Team Sonic Racing, right?
"Very rare for a character so new to get popular so fast"
...
*Looks over at Rex*
:>
Pls can we get Rex and Pyra in Smash so Shulk isn't the solo face for Xenoblade? :3
I never played an animal crossing game in my life. Only had her unlocked for about 4 hours, she may become my main... just because of that, ima be getting Animal Crossing. Their tactics are working.
Tbh as much as I love Isabelle I really don’t feel like she should be beating people up in smash, idk it just seems out of character for someone that sweet. I mean, if you could add anyone from the Animal Crossing series in smash, which is both iconic and more more fitting, add Resetti, idk, it’s just weird to see Isabelle fight against the likes of Ridley or bowser
It's not about what the character's personality is like. It just has to do with their iconic status in gaming. Animal Crossing is HUGE and has one rep. Isabelle is the more popular character from the franchise so she's in. She's now high tier representation for one of the BIGGEST franchises for the Nintendo Company outside of a Mario game. AC on level of Pokemon or Splatoon in that sense. So ya. It makes sense she's in.
And here you got people saying goku should be in, so this comment shouldn’t even be here lol
I’m not saying Goku should be in, idk where you even got that from. I’m just saying someone this sweet just seems weird, I get why they did but idk she doesn’t exactly scream fighting game character does she
I didn’t say that nor that was my point. I’m sayin people want goku even though he’s one of the most strongest characters to live, I think it’s more fair that Isabelle got a shot too. Also we have characters that don’t fight at all like Wii fit
To be fair, I was kinda seeing Tom Nook as a fighter too. A big part of Smash uniqueness is weirdness. I mean, what other fighting game allows you to play a match between a boxer, a spaceship pilot, a goddess, a pocket monster and a cute ball who inhales stuff.
I agree, Siiroth, I thought it was a bit strange at first, but then I realized that Isabelle (Shizue in Japan) is a very popular Animal Crossing, so of course, it makes sense that she would join the Smash roster, as well as to promote the next upcoming AC title for the Switch next year (most likely)! I do love Isabelle, and I can't wait to play as her! :D I'm glad I wasn't the only who noticed that a lot of the Ultimate newcomers also had costumes/headgear from Smash 4 such as the Inklings, Ridley, Daisy, Chrom, King K.Rool, and Isabelle! lol Of course, this could all be a coincidence, but, I still feel like more will show up like that! ;)
look tom nook should of been the new charater beat people with crippling debt
Protoman technically is included since he’s now part of Megaman’s final smash and similar treatment was given to Zero who was also a mii costume (now an assist trophy). Black Knight, Skull Kid, and Geno are all more than likely going to 🐝 included in Smash Ultimate in some shape or form anywhere between being featured in somebody’s final smash, being an assist trophy, or full on being playable like Isabelle and K Rool
I really wanna see Dixie Kong and Waluigi in smash
Peter File Agreed
Hes already in
your opinion is now invalid cause you said waluigi should be in
he is already an assists trophy. get over it
PlayPod Peter wasn't even complaining that he isn't in smash and deconfirmed, he just said he wanted him in, and probably thought he would be cool. Sure, Waluigi isn't getting in ultimate, but you doing stuff like that makes you seem worse than Waluigi fans.
waluigi needs to stop being talked about
I mean the speculation about the Mii costumes basically comes down to this: The Mii costumes were for popular characters fans wanted otherwise they would not sell. They seem to be including popular characters fans wanted in this one. So I guess going off the Mii custumes when guessing new characters is a solid approach.
It's just boring cause everyone expected Isabelle and a lot of people wanted Isabelle and expected her to be an echo but because she got revealed in the direct as a unique character and no one else did everyone now hates her? Less echos the better
Dreamcast Dazia I think the more the merrier (in moderation)
Also nice pic of omoi
Finally someone gets it.
As much as I agree that we should make every character unique, we don't even know if she is an echo or a semiclone. So don't throw it under the bus just yet.
Ben Link It’s like a Luigi to Mario situation, where the characters have 3-4 shared moves but other than that are completely original.
And they also have some similar animation
Assumtions of fighters opportunities :
*Assist Trophies:
- Skull Kid
- Phosphora or Magnus (none of them has returned as assist trophies yet...)
- Shadow (as Sonics echo fighter)
* Mii Costumes:
- Geno
- Black Knight (as Ikes echo fighter, it has sense, and is an easy way to add a FE villain)
- Tails (deserves a place in the roster more than Shadow, hard to believe the 2 of them will be added)
- Monster Hunter
- Lloyd
- Heihachi
* Other Newcomers:
- King Boo
- Incineroar
(Because Super Mario and Pokémon are the 2 franchises that should have more reps)
- Bandana Dee (I prefer Marx...)
- Porky
- Medusa
- Elma
- Karate Joe
- Isaac
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Rayman
* Other echo fighters:
11- Black Shadow
16- Impa
36- Dixie Kong
60- Ken
61- Noctis
63- Jeanne
68- Digby
?? - Felix
* DLC ?:
- Rex & Pyra/Mythra
...
I can't believe this huge list of fighters will join the roster, but I think some will get in, and maybe some as DLC...
I'm just calculating the possibilities of each one with this list. That's why I wrote it.
Ok. Geno HAS To be a Fighter or At Least an Assist Trophy in the Next Smash Game! :3
he doesn't have to be anything
your character doesn't have to be anything.
I don’t want him to be an assist. Not because I want him, but because of the shitstorm that would ensue if he was an assist
the only problem with the game so far
no waluigi :((
The one person who doesn't deserve to be in smash is banjo, because smash bros wouldn't be the same anymore if they keep adding more 3rd party characters, now yes we have cloud, sonic, Pac-man (etc.) But if banjo got in, it wouldn't be super smash bros, it would be random video game characters beating up each other. Super Smash Bros is a bunch of NINTENDO (and SOME 3rd party characters) characters fighting each other on a stage. Not having a bunch of Microsoft and Sony characters plus Nintendo characters being in a game. They can make that a separate game. I just hope they don't add banjo, he doesn't deserve to be in
ᗪєϻΩηKᎥภg64 I like how you think Banjo would be the straw that broke the camels back and not Cloud. Mind blowing.
I don't really care who or what character gets in but SANS FROM UNDERTALE CANT NOT BE IN ULTIMATE. I don't care what anyone says if he gets in, smash ultimate is no longer to be considered a smash brothers game. Fact.
I don't entirely understand why Banjo specifically doesn't deserve a spot. Unlike a lot of third parties, he actually debuted on a Nintendo console. I don't even really want or like the character much, but by that logic, Smash already isn't Smash anymore because of Cloud and Snake. As long as the amount of third parties is never more than the amount of Nintendo characters, I think we'll be fine.
So, characters like Cloud and Snake are totally okay.
But Banjo, no. Banjo will ruin the entire series. The character that debuted on a Nintendo console. He would ruin Smash.
@@ssails glad you agree, thank you
I’d honestly be cool with it if Black Knight ended up being added cause for one, we’d get a Fire Emblem villain, and we don’t have one yet, (Nintendo seems to really be into adding villains), and Ike V. Black Knight is like one of the biggest rivalry relationships through all of FE
I want the bird guy in
Sonicice 24 pelliper
Harvey Birdman?
Talonflame?
FortuneStreetFan129 He could be referring to Medli from Legend of Zelda.
I've also have been looking at the dlc costumes since King k. Rool's and Chrom's announcement. Lloyd is also one of them and he even got noted by sakurai in one of his interviews long ago. I'd be fine if he didn't come in, but be a dual wielder would be cool in smash. Even if it's another sword character.
_"Smash Bros is a great promotion tool...it's true!"_
Smash Bros. Melee came out in 2001.
The first actually successful Fire Emblem game released in 2012.
🙄
He and you are mistaken. Isabelle was put in Smash Bros. to promote _drumroll_ Smash Bros. What is going to make you buy this game rather than a whole different game?
I got into animal crossing because I played a lot of villager in smash, he isn't mistaken
It didn't. I'm reading not even 600,000 copies sold for the 3DS version.
backup368 did you forget brawl existed
A part of what you said about the next Animal Crossing game selling hopefully well it kinda part of my theory: Confirming that Animal Crossing is coming to the Switch in 2019 is the reason why they revealed Isabelle as a playable Smash character.
I love your videos and I agree with a lot of what you have to say you know I would love Banjo and Kazooie to be parsed smash I mean even though they belong to another company and they made a lot of games with Nintendo.
I’d also just like to say, in the reveal trailer, when they talked about assist trophies, Isabella was one of them. But they got rid of the assist trophy for the character.
Maybe, just maybe... this gives us a chance for waluigi? Probably not but possibly.
Do Steve from Minecraft and the Pictochat face have any chance of being playable ? I really want them.
Hopefully
@@codieskipper7479 Thank you for agreeing with me.
that sounds stupid. neither of them would fit. especially picto chat. thats so dumb
@@PlayPodOG it's a joke you foolish fool
how would i know that. there is NO reason why i would think that. you don't even know if it is a joke or not
At 4:23, he spent 15 seconds saying, essentially, “exposure might increase game sales”
The belief that Isabelle was put in the game to promote the next Animal Crossing game I am very certain is a million percent false.
... why? They literally combined the new AC announcement with her inclusion. From a marketing perspective how else would you view that?
So if they weren't making a new Animal Crossing game, she wouldn't be considered as a playable character?
See, now you're using "million percent false" reasoning. The new AC game contributed to her inclusion, but of course it was not the *single* factor.
There is nothing wrong with my comment. There is one product that they are using the character to promote by putting her in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, and that's Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
@@backup368 Again, if she wasn't promoting AC2019 even a little bit they would not have timed it like this.
The idea that she's only promoting SSBU is based on nothing.
9 minutes of a guy repeating the same point over and over
that time when the character you want doesn't have a chance
i want marisa kirisame
GoldenShadow404 Who the fuck is that
I still want a new F-Zero rep. It's been over 14 years since F-Zero fans got something.
Feels touhou man
Touhou is one of the most popular indie games in Japan I'm still surpised no one is in the roster
GIVE ME SCORPION!
I have something similar to this. As a huge fan of the Earthbound series my top fighter I want in the game is Ninten. Now he may not be one of the most popular choices, he may not have had a Mii costume in Smash like Inkling, K. Rool, Isabel, Chrom and maybe even Geno did, and he probably might as well be an echo fighter to Ness, but theres a huge importance with Ninten in Smash. Mother 3 still hasn't come to America. So with Ninten being in Smash could hint that Mother 3 is coming soon, though one might think Porky is a better option, that just isn't fitting at all
It doesn't matter to me really cause it's cool but I wish Worthy Characters or for smash Characters
For Christ's sake, Nintendo already confirmed Luigi is okay
I don't think Isabelle doesn't deserve to be in Smash, but I just really couldn't care less of her inclusion.
and would be cool if she remained so
Aaron Wichers that was like me with king k and Ridley I’m really happy for people who wanted them but I couldn’t care less if they were in the game or not
That's fair enough, but I can confidently say I'm very comfy on my side of the coin. Id take Ridley or King K Rool over Isabelle any day no problem.
@@cyrhasmarshall4603 the reason we wanted k rool and Ridley was because we saw a lot of potential for them we didn't want Isabelle is because we don't really see any potential seeing as villager was already in the game it would make more sense if she was an echo as a fun little thing for smash and helps promote the new ac game I just think they went a little bit overboard making her a character.
Lancorve Or you can wait 3 months, actually play the game and then make an informed comment.
Everyone talks about how Isabelle should've been an echo of Villager because of the moveset similarities, but the way I see it, she was made her own fighter because she's taller. When you look at the other pairings with current echo fighters, Peach & Daisy, Pit & Dark Pit, Simon & Richter, both characters are usually the same height with each other, but Villager in Smash is based off of the original game where every character was fairly short, but then they made everyone a little bit taller from New Leaf and onward, which was also when Isabelle first debuted. Since she never had a concept model of her being shorter than she already is, I think I'd be weird to squash her down to size just to have her to scale with lil' Villager.
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The Real Delphox 616 whats so funny?
wtf
Everyone is gonna pocket me
isabellelover109 Lol
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I think that the best way to explain villager and Isabelle would be falco's changes between melee and brawl where the base moves are there but are fundamentally different
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Wow you're just stealing from other people's videos we've already come up with this like a month ago
To me, the significance of isabelles inclusion is that it makes it more and more likely that vergeben is right about ken from street fighter and a new square enix rep (probably geno, but I’m also keeping my fingers crossed for sora) being in the game as playable characters.
Even though I REALLY wanted Geno this time, I was still really excited and happy about Isabelle in Smash (AND SHE'S NOT AN ECHO OF VILLAGER) and Animal Crossing for Switch. It's a thumbs up from me.
Isabelle was missing from the assist trophy and now she got added like a character shadow and other characters are missing from the assist trophy does that mean shadow is a character
While we shouldn't expect as many newcomers in Ultimate (at least at launch) as before (given the effort they've already made bringing back every single veteran from the past 4 games), I predict at least 12 newcomers (both brand new fighters & echo fighters) for Ultimate... the same amount as the overall roster for the Original Super Smash Bros.
Kind of annoyed that Isabelle keeps getting lumped as an Echo Fighter of Villager. The only moves they actually share are the net grab and dash attack. Pretty much all the other attacks are unique animations that are not derived from Villager. Meanwhile, all Echo Fighters' attacks are directly derived from existing characters, hence their classification.
Net grab, dash, pocket, Final Smash. 4 moves. Still few enough for the treatment Lucario got (People say they're a clone because they share one move. In Lucario's case they say Mewtwo clone, in Isabelle's they say Villager) though.
Looks at likes GEE I wonder who liked this uhmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Right, forgot about those. But for the Lucario situation, that was more around when Brawl first came out and Mewtwo got the cut, so people started drawing more parallels between those two, I think.
I don't swear by the Mii Costumes theory that much anymore ever since Ashley got deconfirmed despite being very highly requested and having a costume.
Thanks for clearing it up! I hate all those fake significances of Isabelles inclusion
I see how it is, they will without hesitation add a secretary, they will add someone who debut on the game cube, but they won't add any character who debuted on the n64.
With K. Rool on the roster, I’m surprised more people are talking about Banjo & Kazooie. Like, Geno would be a huge reveal, but imagine the reaction video from Nintendo World NY at the reveal of B&K.
Kid Icarus sits at 1.29 million copies sold. Nice work, Smash Bros.
Past Sakurai: [Waluigi] "Try hard don't make you a chance to join in the battle"
Future Sakurai: ?
Isabelle shouldn't be fighting? What about the villager? They are both literally from the same friendly game. Both shouldn't be fighting but im extremely happy that they are. If Isabelle was included along with the villager in Super Smash 4, not a lot of people wouldn't react this way. They're just ungrateful about SSBU not adding the "right" characters that they wanted (such as shadow, skull kid ect... idfk nor care) and if they're giving the excuse that the trailer was boring or bad, they should realize that the trailer is to announce the up coming animal crossing game for next year as well. And it worked, the music & seeing Isabelle work gave some nostalgia to some Animal Crossing fans. I haven't seen any AC fans upset about this but not everyone thinks the same... But even so, they should be happy and accept that we're getting another representative of AC in the game and a very adorable one as well lol
Great video btw