I'm seeing so many people say "what she's saying is dumb!" or "nobody is discriminated I metal because I've never seen it!". How about you get over yourself and just take the time to listen to someone else's experience? It's nice that you've never seen it before, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't or hasn't happened.
It's always puzzled me that African Americans are told that they are too black to play music that they singlehandedly invented. That never made much sense to me at all. Aside from that, much respect to this woman. Rock on!
I have to say, the racism experienced by these women seems to be embedded in American culture rather than Heavy Metal myself, in the British scene people walk freely without judgement, i've even seen a woman attend a Angel Witch show in a burkha. Metal is a culture of outsiders, there's no need to make people feel like outsiders from a group of outsiders.
This video is great. I'm a black woman and I love all genres of music. I have gotten some heat for liking Rock music but I don't care. I love it. This video made me teary eyed because music is my haven and it's where I find myself and my connections with other people. Music should be for any and everyone.
If you're into Metal you're a fellow brother , or sister! Music doesn't come with a color! I don't care if you're white , black , hispanic , asian , or native american!
+Darkhan Augustus Thanks bro! Fortunatly the nowaday metal is not the same as the one those women experienced!... I'm black mixed and went to the last Behemoth/Abbath/inquisition concert recently (Paris). Metalheads are mostly nice guies, even in extreme subgenre such as black death metal, and I talked to some of them several time after the set. They didn't see my skin colour (didn't even talked about it), but only my Behemoth hat and my inverted cross!!^^ There was even that hot girl, which was very very very firendly...! ;)
Xav Nimportnawak Welcome aboard Comrade :) Indeed anyone who is true to our punk ,and metal scene is a fellow brother , and sister of mine :) I'm pleased to seeing no boundaries :)
I think it's wonderful that black people are starting to listen to metal music. The more the merrier, and everyone's invited to listen to such great music.
Name: Lita Coppola Occupation: Actor/Screenwriter Favorite metal bands: Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Anthrax, Pantera Favorite hard rock bands: Aerosmith, Cheap Trick, Ted Nugnet, Night Ranger, Alice Cooper, Poison, Motley Crue, KISS, Tesla, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi (86-92) Favorite southern rock bands: Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Allman Brothers Band Favorite pop groups: The Beach Boys ALL OF ABOVE I'M A DIE HARD METALHEAD AND BLACK.
...I think I'm in love. Militia is brutal. Christ, maybe even more so than Masha Scream. Any metalhead who wouldn't want to have a beer with someone that passionate is loco. I'll have to order Laina's book. In my experience, most of us who haven't "grown out of" our metal "phase" will keep metal with us our whole lives because it's helped us cope in desperate times. Much respect.
From my experience of gigs and festivals in the UK, this seems to be something of an American problem. The level of racism is horrifying. In the UK, generally, anyone exhibiting those sort of attitudes are very much a minority and are seen as knuckle-dragging scum. As a Metal fan, I've seen people of all ethnicities at the likes of Bloodstock, the SOS Festival, Hard Rock Hell and Sonisphere, as well as many of the gigs I've been to. But from what I've seen, as a culture, we British do tend to be a lot more inclusive and tolerant, especially in the Metal scene.
I am black & I just saw Megadeth , Metallica, Pink Floyd, Smashing Pumpkins, Korn you name it ~ I also love R&B and Hip Hop and Jazz ... I dont dress Metal I dress kinda urban ...was adpoted by white folks in 1970 . If I get wierd looks I dont notice them really.. I also am very big so maybe the thing I am a bouncer ..lol.
I've had problems with perverts thinking a non white chick into metal is exotic or something, never had a race issue though, then again I don't listen to Metallica so I never really met those fans must be an American thing lol.
See this kind of stuff makes me mad in a certain way. Yes Metal doesn't have many black people in it. Still people need to stop making metal look like it's predominantly white. I will admit that there is a majority, to be honest I believe it's predominantly white and Hispanic/Latino. Heavy metal is universal though it spans across the world. There are bands in the middle east, Africa, Japan, India, Indonesia, China, and a few other countries. I'm sure we all heard of Suffocation which has had black members. However, I think this goes into those unanswered questions in metal where we just shrug and can't provide a solid answer. I'm sure the artists, fans, and myself included don't really know why there aren't many black people in the metal scene.
Any "Metalhead" that tells you that you shouldn't' be listening to metal or you don't deserve it punch him in the face! They are the ones who don't understand it, they are the ones that dont deverve it!
Majority of metalheads don't care about the color or the gender..if your music is good it just doesn't matter..few examples... Howard Jones(K.Engage)-Lajon(Sevendust)-Byron Davis(God Forbid)-Terrance Hobs,Mike Smith(Suffocation)-De Pena(Hirax)-Adam Waren(Oceano)-Bad Brains,Skindred,RATM...
Nice to bring this topic to the surface but instead of 11 min of talking about their struggles, how about mentioning the other side - you know, the cool people who have embraced and supported them in the scene. Maybe even which bands (outside of Judas Priest) that they are into and why they love this bands. This could have been so much better.
Anybody who says music does not have color is crazy! Music is at the epicenter of a persons identity. Music is the single most identifying mark of cultural uniqueness. The heartbeat of a people can be heard in the music they listen to and play. This is why this story doesn't make me raise an eyebrow because we the viewer know very little about the two women showcased on this video. All we know is that Heavy Metal is the soundtrack that expresses their inner rage. So to me that says a lot more about them than the hue of their skin and apparently the people at that presentation felt the same way because they were focused on the concert and not the black chick with the camera or the black chick on stage. In fact I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said their were no black women there. All I saw were a bunch of metal heads and isn't that the way it should be?
"Judas Priestess" yeah, they already went wrong there. If women feel the need to be recognised in metal then why emphasize the fact that you are female? Just get together write a good album, get good live like all other metal bands and then perhaps they will be recognised , instead of turning women in metal into a gimmick. Absolutely pathetic. The same thing goes for that band "iron maidens". Also her claims of being attracted to "the loudest, fastest most intense thing" just shows her low understanding of the genre when extreme metal exists. If you want to play metal then play it , instead of being pathetic and needing to make a female version of another band. "Never sold out" as if the whole "Judas Priestess" isn't just a sell out. And this isnt even touching on the subject of the whole "black people" thing which is pathetic aswel. One of the most idiotic stories i've heard in a long time.
I don't know. I am a white girl and grew up in a black neighborhood. I experience what people seem to want to call "reverse" racism. I don't feel that way, racism is racism if you ask me. I think these women were having problems more because they are women to be honest with you. Jimmi Hendrix, Ice-T with Body Count, etc. Ted Nugent famously states that he has modeled his career after black musicians that he admired greatly and if it weren't for them he wouldn't have a career and Ted Nugent is as rock as you can get. I think in America race is blamed way too often. I think in America the serious problem is the rich against the poor. Let me tell you something, in todays day and age, poor does not discriminate. We should be banding together like we did after 9/11. That sense of neighborhood patriotic oneness should not have been taken for granted. Now it is just like before. It's a shame.
MrTiredmatt I know and they do it for a reason. They want people to be concentrated on the color of their skin in relation to each other. That way we don't notice that the rich are slowly crushing and eradicating the POOR, not black or white...POOR us poor folk gotta stick together,you know what I mean??
AnnAnnieMouse well the problem with that is most poor people are low/no information voters that vote democrat simply because they think they are supposed to based on their skin color or income. the democrats model is very circular and is designed to keep poor people poor and keep them voting democrat while alienating the from the republican party/all other conservative parties.
MrTiredmatt That is very true. The democratic party is very conniving in their purpose. I don't really believe voting matters much anymore. I think if people want a change, they need to be more hands on. A lot of people just feel ignorant to amendments. Including me. There is so much double speak. A lot of people just simply don't know what is going on anymore and don't have the time, energy, or interest to find out, but they don't realize how much their silence is going to affect their future and their children's future as well. We are in a sad state of affairs I think.
i AGREE with gender part, black women, they get it BOTH WAYS. But denying racism is easy for you, you are not black woman. And you don't live in a black ruled society. Don't even bring up the old "black racism"argument , it doesn't exist in America. Its not racist to hate oppresion, or your opressors. Its normal. Race +gender governs every part of a black woman's existence here.
The best thing to happen to metal in the past ten years is the female singers. It's awesome to know their are black women into metal. Cool.
I'm seeing so many people say "what she's saying is dumb!" or "nobody is discriminated I metal because I've never seen it!". How about you get over yourself and just take the time to listen to someone else's experience? It's nice that you've never seen it before, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't or hasn't happened.
Before anybody can deny these women's experience, they should try taking a BLACK WOMAN into a metal concert!
It's always puzzled me that African Americans are told that they are too black to play music that they singlehandedly invented. That never made much sense to me at all. Aside from that, much respect to this woman. Rock on!
I have to say, the racism experienced by these women seems to be embedded in American culture rather than Heavy Metal myself, in the British scene people walk freely without judgement, i've even seen a woman attend a Angel Witch show in a burkha. Metal is a culture of outsiders, there's no need to make people feel like outsiders from a group of outsiders.
Well said Joshua!
Thank you, and you are RIGHT! AMERICA IS EXTREMELY RACIST, ANTI BLACK WOMAN!!!
I was touched when the woman said she felt like a weirdo. The heavy metal shows are full of weirdos, we're all weird TOGETHER!
apparently, we are not all weird together, when pricks were giving her dirty looks and making racist comments.
This country is so racist, even subcultures persecute like-minded black people
This video is great. I'm a black woman and I love all genres of music. I have gotten some heat for liking Rock music but I don't care. I love it. This video made me teary eyed because music is my haven and it's where I find myself and my connections with other people. Music should be for any and everyone.
If you're into Metal you're a fellow brother , or sister! Music doesn't come with a color!
I don't care if you're white , black , hispanic , asian , or native american!
+Darkhan Augustus Thanks bro! Fortunatly the nowaday metal is not the same as the one
those women experienced!... I'm black mixed and went to the last
Behemoth/Abbath/inquisition concert recently (Paris). Metalheads are mostly nice
guies, even in extreme subgenre such as black death metal, and I talked
to some of them several time after the set. They didn't see my skin
colour (didn't even talked about it), but only my Behemoth hat and my
inverted cross!!^^ There was even that hot girl, which was very very
very firendly...! ;)
Xav Nimportnawak
Welcome aboard Comrade :)
Indeed anyone who is true to our punk ,and metal scene is a fellow brother , and sister of mine :)
I'm pleased to seeing no boundaries :)
Agreed. I'm black and love all kinds of metal. I was raised on it.
Im a very metal guy! These women are beautiful and can rock with me anytime!!
ROCK ON!!
I think it's wonderful that black people are starting to listen to metal music. The more the merrier, and everyone's invited to listen to such great music.
Black Metal is a genre of metal, nothing shown here is black metal.
I know right
she's so gorgeous!
I wish I could give both those ladies a hug.
Name: Lita Coppola
Occupation: Actor/Screenwriter
Favorite metal bands: Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Anthrax, Pantera
Favorite hard rock bands: Aerosmith, Cheap Trick, Ted Nugnet, Night Ranger, Alice Cooper, Poison, Motley Crue, KISS, Tesla, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi (86-92)
Favorite southern rock bands: Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Allman Brothers Band
Favorite pop groups: The Beach Boys
ALL OF ABOVE I'M A DIE HARD METALHEAD AND BLACK.
everyone has forgotten alexis brown of straight line stitch, she is mega hot, black and super fucking talented.
...I think I'm in love. Militia is brutal. Christ, maybe even more so than Masha Scream. Any metalhead who wouldn't want to have a beer with someone that passionate is loco. I'll have to order Laina's book. In my experience, most of us who haven't "grown out of" our metal "phase" will keep metal with us our whole lives because it's helped us cope in desperate times. Much respect.
Holy crap Voxx is pretty.........
Ideally, music transcends all visual barriers. Its the MUSIC that really matters!
Music doesn't have COLOR, nor should it be. I am for all types of music....long as it good quality & the lyrics touch me, no what type of genres.
+Katrina Johnson
i wish i could say that was true but its not really how i see it actually playing out.
I just need this book!!! Amazing!
From my experience of gigs and festivals in the UK, this seems to be something of an American problem. The level of racism is horrifying. In the UK, generally, anyone exhibiting those sort of attitudes are very much a minority and are seen as knuckle-dragging scum. As a Metal fan, I've seen people of all ethnicities at the likes of Bloodstock, the SOS Festival, Hard Rock Hell and Sonisphere, as well as many of the gigs I've been to. But from what I've seen, as a culture, we British do tend to be a lot more inclusive and tolerant, especially in the Metal scene.
She is so hot
I've always though heavy metal could use more diversity. I would wholeheartedly welcome more POC metal bands.
I'm female and some of my favorite heavy metal musicians are women.
She's gonna get me all emotional. I'm getting that book.
I am black & I just saw Megadeth , Metallica, Pink Floyd, Smashing Pumpkins, Korn you name it ~ I also love R&B and Hip Hop and Jazz ... I dont dress Metal I dress kinda urban ...was adpoted by white folks in 1970 . If I get wierd looks I dont notice them really.. I also am very big so maybe the thing I am a bouncer ..lol.
I've had problems with perverts thinking a non white chick into metal is exotic or something, never had a race issue though, then again I don't listen to Metallica so I never really met those fans must be an American thing lol.
See this kind of stuff makes me mad in a certain way. Yes Metal doesn't have many black people in it. Still people need to stop making metal look like it's predominantly white. I will admit that there is a majority, to be honest I believe it's predominantly white and Hispanic/Latino. Heavy metal is universal though it spans across the world. There are bands in the middle east, Africa, Japan, India, Indonesia, China, and a few other countries. I'm sure we all heard of Suffocation which has had black members. However, I think this goes into those unanswered questions in metal where we just shrug and can't provide a solid answer. I'm sure the artists, fans, and myself included don't really know why there aren't many black people in the metal scene.
Also GUNS N ROSE, you have Slash!!!! And There's Tina Turner!
What about hirax?? They have a black vocalist but they kick so much ass
What a GREAT story this was! Thank you!
Awesome. Great story. Metal needs people of all colors and backgrounds. Let's tear down the walls. Hail Metal.
Correction for the host's intro... heavy metal began in the 60's-70's.
Any "Metalhead" that tells you that you shouldn't' be listening to metal or you don't deserve it punch him in the face! They are the ones who don't understand it, they are the ones that dont deverve it!
Is this page still active...Most people s comments are at 7 years.
Majority of metalheads don't care about the color or the gender..if your music is good it just doesn't matter..few examples...
Howard Jones(K.Engage)-Lajon(Sevendust)-Byron Davis(God Forbid)-Terrance Hobs,Mike Smith(Suffocation)-De Pena(Hirax)-Adam Waren(Oceano)-Bad Brains,Skindred,RATM...
Nice to bring this topic to the surface but instead of 11 min of talking about their struggles, how about mentioning the other side - you know, the cool people who have embraced and supported them in the scene. Maybe even which bands (outside of Judas Priest) that they are into and why they love this bands. This could have been so much better.
because the story is about the struggle of black females in the metal world.
*LAY DOWN YOUR SOUL TO THE GODS ROCK AND ROLL!*
been to plenty of metal shows and never had an issue with racists. but that's not to say it doesn't exist.
to all Ladies, in the doc & in the comments, i hope to see you out there somewhere.✌🎶
Music is for everyone!
Anybody who says music does not have color is crazy! Music is at the epicenter of a persons identity. Music is the single most identifying mark of cultural uniqueness. The heartbeat of a people can be heard in the music they listen to and play. This is why this story doesn't make me raise an eyebrow because we the viewer know very little about the two women showcased on this video. All we know is that Heavy Metal is the soundtrack that expresses their inner rage.
So to me that says a lot more about them than the hue of their skin and apparently the people at that presentation felt the same way because they were focused on the concert and not the black chick with the camera or the black chick on stage. In fact I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said their were no black women there. All I saw were a bunch of metal heads and isn't that the way it should be?
I want to watch this. Cant find it anywhere.
Good video. How easily people forget Tina Turner!!!!
AT LAST AT LONG LAST!!!! AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN FOR METAL!!!!!
I would like to see female afro black metal singer
Sweet, I know exactly how they feel.
I used to love metal but than I grew up and stopped being so angry. But to each his own right.
why were you angry?
Which explains why I'm having a hard time finding that hot black, metal-loving girlfriend. Move to PA plz Militia.
ArmorOfChrist777 I listen to metal lol
🤘🏾
i thought this video was gonna be about black metal lmao
this chick is badass lol tbh
Arch enamy ,dana duffy !!!
arch enemy doesn't have a black female singer
Black Metal??
Where is my Alexis Brown?
cover are not make music, cover are for no heads
wrong kind of black for my metal
This is not "Black Metal" unless you mean that the singer is black in race. If that is the case than awful wording!
It's a double entendre dumbass
"Judas Priestess" yeah, they already went wrong there. If women feel the need to be recognised in metal then why emphasize the fact that you are female? Just get together write a good album, get good live like all other metal bands and then perhaps they will be recognised , instead of turning women in metal into a gimmick. Absolutely pathetic. The same thing goes for that band "iron maidens". Also her claims of being attracted to "the loudest, fastest most intense thing" just shows her low understanding of the genre when extreme metal exists. If you want to play metal then play it , instead of being pathetic and needing to make a female version of another band. "Never sold out" as if the whole "Judas Priestess" isn't just a sell out. And this isnt even touching on the subject of the whole "black people" thing which is pathetic aswel. One of the most idiotic stories i've heard in a long time.
They are female why wouldn't they be proud of who they are.
Catrina Botelho If they are "proud" there is no need to go out of their way to state it.
Black metal? ...
When I clicked on this video I expected something about Varg Vikernes or Gaahl... This is way too black metal for me xD
I don't know. I am a white girl and grew up in a black neighborhood. I experience what people seem to want to call "reverse" racism. I don't feel that way, racism is racism if you ask me. I think these women were having problems more because they are women to be honest with you. Jimmi Hendrix, Ice-T with Body Count, etc. Ted Nugent famously states that he has modeled his career after black musicians that he admired greatly and if it weren't for them he wouldn't have a career and Ted Nugent is as rock as you can get. I think in America race is blamed way too often. I think in America the serious problem is the rich against the poor. Let me tell you something, in todays day and age, poor does not discriminate. We should be banding together like we did after 9/11. That sense of neighborhood patriotic oneness should not have been taken for granted. Now it is just like before. It's a shame.
its called 'reverse racism' because black on white racism is popular and PC. the mainstream media will only report on white on black racism
MrTiredmatt I know and they do it for a reason. They want people to be concentrated on the color of their skin in relation to each other. That way we don't notice that the rich are slowly crushing and eradicating the POOR, not black or white...POOR us poor folk gotta stick together,you know what I mean??
AnnAnnieMouse well the problem with that is most poor people are low/no information voters that vote democrat simply because they think they are supposed to based on their skin color or income. the democrats model is very circular and is designed to keep poor people poor and keep them voting democrat while alienating the from the republican party/all other conservative parties.
MrTiredmatt That is very true. The democratic party is very conniving in their purpose. I don't really believe voting matters much anymore. I think if people want a change, they need to be more hands on. A lot of people just feel ignorant to amendments. Including me. There is so much double speak. A lot of people just simply don't know what is going on anymore and don't have the time, energy, or interest to find out, but they don't realize how much their silence is going to affect their future and their children's future as well. We are in a sad state of affairs I think.
i AGREE with gender part, black women, they get it BOTH WAYS. But denying racism is easy for you, you are not black woman. And you don't live in a black ruled society. Don't even bring up the old "black racism"argument , it doesn't exist in America. Its not racist to hate oppresion, or your opressors. Its normal. Race +gender governs every part of a black woman's existence here.
Music doesn't have COLOR, nor should it be. I am for all types of music....long as it good quality & the lyrics touch me, no what type of genres.